Coach Fired For Running Up Score

[master of the puppets]

parents or no parents i'm surprised the winners didn't show some leniency. but i guess it is in our primal nature to drive our heels down on those in the dirt. and who among us are more primal than children... besides P.E. coaches.

[HoreTore]

They said the Dallas Academy players were handicapped, not oblivious to reality. Do you think they didn't know that they were being degraded and laughed at? But it's okay, because at least they got a chance to spend some quality time with 'real kids'?

Uhm..... What on earth is degrading about getting a good, honest trashing? Who cares about the score?

I mean, unless the coach and players were pointing and laughing, I see little wrong with it...

[Rhyfelwyr]

There was absolutedly no need to run up such a score. A big to the players, the league organisers, and especially the coach.

We need to stop trying to treat disabled people as equal when they are clearly not. Why are a disabled team in the same league as normal schools?

[Husar]

I agree with HoreTore, if they didn't want to get trashed like that, they should have found another team to play against, you can't honestly say you don't want to be treated different because you're disabled (i.e. not play in a league for the disabled only) and then complain that you got trashed by a team of able bodied people, sometimes you have to accept reality (and play with the girls, for example, or get trashed).

[HoreTore]

I agree with HoreTore, if they didn't want to get trashed like that, they should have found another team to play against, you can't honestly say you don't want to be treated different because you're disabled (i.e. not play in a league for the disabled only) and then complain that you got trashed by a team of able bodied people, sometimes you have to accept reality (and play with the girls, for example, or get trashed).

Blame the incompetent league organizers, if you want someone to blame. The winning team just did what they wanted, and there's nothing wrong with that. Why should they be forced to waste an hour of their life to cater to the league organizers need to be incompetent? Why shouldn't they do something meaningful instead?

They made the best of a bad situation - kudos to them for that.

Sports teams exist to win the senior championships. Youth setups are there to create new players to reach that goal.

[Ronin]

Don't they have the moral that there's more important things than winning in Europe?

Where´s the moral of putting a team of handicapped kids up against teams that don´t have the same handicap?

like someone else already said the fact that they where throwing for 3 pointers in the end of the game shows that they were going out of their way to make it more difficult for themselves.

They said the Dallas Academy players were handicapped, not oblivious to reality. Do you think they didn't know that they were being degraded and laughed at? But it's okay, because at least they got a chance to spend some quality time with 'real kids'?

I don´t think playing a half-assed game and "going easy on them" would be any better...it would be worse in fact.
then they would really be patronizing them..and it could even be discussed...making fun of the weaker team.

[ajaxfetish]

We need to stop trying to treat disabled people as equal when they are clearly not. Why are a disabled team in the same league as normal schools?

I'm not sure on the specifics of how the league operates, but it's not like the Dallas Academy sucks at sports in general. According to the second article, the two schools' boys teams played shortly afterwards and Dallas won 50-38. But while their school has about 120 boys, they've got only about 20 girls. The school may be assigned to the division it's in based on its boys teams, without consideration taken that its girls teams belong at a different level. That's probably one of the first things that needs to change.

Ajax

[Proletariat]

I guess you guy's really don't get barbarianball. There's a shot clock in hoops. When you're up 80 on another team, the normal decent thing to do would be to run the shot clock out each possession which would run the game out. No one's saying they were supposed to coddle the losers.

[HoreTore]

I guess you guy's really don't get barbarianball.

Indeed I really do not.

There's a shot clock in hoops. When you're up 80 on another team, the normal decent thing to do would be to run the shot clock out each possession which would run the game out. No one's saying they were supposed to coddle the losers.

Don't get me wrong. I've read this part 4 times now. I really, really, really can't understand what a word of it....

And I still haven't got an answer to my first question, what "running up the score" means...

[LittleGrizzly]

Don't get me wrong. I've read this part 4 times now. I really, really, really can't understand what a word of it....

I think basically once your in the opposing teams half you only have a certain amount of time to try and score, after that time i think possession switches back over... just running out a clock sounds dreadfully boring though...

Im unsure on this issue... on the hand is not nice to get slaughtered... on the other hand it would be slightly patronising if the whole team starting using thier left hand for example..

[CBR]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_up_the_score

In sports in the United States, "running up the score" occurs when a team continues to play in such a way as to score additional points after the outcome of the game is no longer in question and the team is assured of winning.

.........

The term and concept are not common elsewhere in the world

Absurd and yet at the same time ridiculous

So seems like an American thing. No wonder we Euro weenies have never heard of such a thing.


CBR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Would it be wrong for one team to run up the score in gym class? Because if these kids are taking women's high school basketball too much more seriously than that you'd have the real problem right there.

[Strike For The South]

I guess you guy's really don't get barbarianball. There's a shot clock in hoops. When you're up 80 on another team, the normal decent thing to do would be to run the shot clock out each possession which would run the game out. No one's saying they were supposed to coddle the losers.

There is no shot clock in Texas high school BASKETBALL at any level.

[HoreTore]

There is no shot clock in Texas high school BARBARIANBALL at any level.

There, fixed it for ya

[Husar]

Don't get me wrong. I've read this part 4 times now. I really, really, really can't understand what a word of it....

And I still haven't got an answer to my first question, what "running up the score" means...

I can't stop agreeing with you today...

I think basically once your in the opposing teams half you only have a certain amount of time to try and score, after that time i think possession switches back over... just running out a clock sounds dreadfully boring though...

Im unsure on this issue... on the hand is not nice to get slaughtered... on the other hand it would be slightly patronising if the whole team starting using thier left hand for example..

Thatnks for the explanation, now that I think about it, I remember it from school and yes, it does sound boring, also throwing the ball over the heads of the disabled until the clock runs out sounds rather humiliating to me, almost like you're really trying to make fun of them.
"Look, I could score now but I won't because you retards can't get the ball anyway..."
"Woops, you almost had it, hehe."

I think that game has a different name though.

[Strike For The South]

There, fixed it for ya

Why do you call it that? Bigot.

[HoreTore]

Why do you call it that? Bigot.

Why? Because it's a game involving a ball, but it's not football*, so obviously it must be one of the inferior "sports" involving a ball, all of which can be lumped together and classed as barbarianball, since, well, they're quite irrelevant and quite frankly barbarian sports, nothing like the esteemed and beautiful game of football... In the words of Bill Shankly:

"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."

*I am, of course, referring to the european kind, the one where using your hands is against the rules, hence the name "football, not "foot and hands-ball".

[Strike For The South]

Why? Because it's a game involving a ball, but it's not football*, so obviously it must be one of the inferior "sports" involving a ball, all of which can be lumped together and classed as barbarianball, since, well, they're quite irrelevant and quite frankly barbarian sports, nothing like the esteemed and beautiful game of football... In the words of Bill Shankly:

"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."

*I am, of course, referring to the european kind, the one where using your hands is against the rules, hence the name "football, not "foot and hands-ball".

Soccer? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Husar]

Soccer? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Soccer is that game where they have a Superbowl, right?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

People keep bringing this up, but "learning disability" doesn't mean that they're slow. The schools webpage mentions ADD, dyslexia and dysgraphia. Whoever wrote the news article was just playing that angle becaus of their personal bias or to make it more interesting.

[Strike For The South]

People keep bringing this up, but "learning disability" doesn't mean that they're slow. The schools webpage mentions ADD, dyslexia and dysgraphia. Whoever wrote the news article was just playing that angle becaus of their personal bias or to make it more interesting.

This. The coach pumped the brakes a bit but Dallas academy just sucks. God I wish my parents had been this coddling after I did bad at my sports. I remember being called names and being asked if I wanted to be there oldest daughter. (Competition runs rampant at the south house)

[KukriKhan]

Q: What's worse: losing 100-99 or 100-0?

A: Neither. They're the same - a loss.

If both teams played to the best of their ability, a good game was had, whatever the score. Did the losers just quit, not answer the 4th quarter buzzer? No. They played on. Likewise the winners didn't quit, employing their more complicated plays and tougher goal shots.

There was no humiliation there. On either side. It sounds more like parents and school administrators have interfered, for political-correctness reasons (which sends the wrong teaching point to the students, IMO).

Maybe the fired coach can become the loser's school's assistant coach, and teach those kids the techniques needed to be more successful, point-scoring players. Once they know how it looks, feels, smells and sounds to win, they can do it more often (like my sorrowful Detroit Lions need). So far all they know how to do is lose. It's what they've been trained for. And they don't disappoint.

I agree: whoever built this league needs to get off the sauce and reconfigure it.

Sez me - mister average, second-string, non-star athlete in high school.

[Strike For The South]

I agree: whoever built this league needs to get off the sauce and reconfigure it.

It's a TAAPS league (private schools) Private schools aern't big in Texas due to football and many of us being very poor. Thus the schools are few and far between and the schools that are the closest often get lumped in the same division. It's the only way they can play. Although I know San Antonio had a big school/small school divison. Dallas should have one to

Although by big I mean 300 kids.

[KukriKhan]

Dallas should have one to

yeah.

[Strike For The South]

I look it up. They probably do, the thing is though in these games one or two above average players can really tip the scale. Now maybe not 100 -0 but still

Come to think of it, it's to late for non-distirct but to early for playoffs. Time to investigate!!!!

[KukriKhan]

I appreciate the investigation, Strike, but it's not necessary to the point:

98% of high school athletes are not going to be professional athletes, or even uni players. So what is the point of even having/funding high school sports? Sounds like a money-drain, right?

They are to teach, by practical application, that individual effort matters; that being a contributing part of a team, matters. That being honest, matters. That being personally accountable, matters. That treating your opponents with respect and dignity, matters.

Those lessons can be, and are, taught every day in every high school district in the land. They can be discussed and dissected in the classroom, but can only be put into the sharp relief they deserve, on the playing fields/pitches of sport/pretend war.

Ancient Greeks knew that and honored it. We should, too.

[Strike For The South]

OK. Here is what my metroplex scources tell me

1. Covenant (the team that won) only had six players
2. The week before there was a 55-1 game and a 108-22 game (TAAPS!!!!!!)
3. The school didn't have a problem until this thing blew up nationally
4. Dallas academy (losing team) got a "forefit" win, suite seats to a mavericks game and then quit there leauage
5. Academy hasn't won a game in four years
6. Both teams are 2A which is the 2nd smallest classifacation in the state

Guys this happens more than you'd think. Just a couple days a go two local Lubbock high school teams in the biggest classification (5A over 2,000 kids) played and one beat the other 109-18

The reason for this is

1. The coach was still pressing at 70 or 80 (conflicting reports) to 0
2. The nice round 100-0 number
3. The "disabled" thing which is kind of a misnomer

I'm sure some of this has been said but there ya go.

[KukriKhan]

thanks, stfs.

gives some perspective.

[Strike For The South]

I appreciate the investigation, Strike, but it's not necessary to the point:

98% of high school athletes are not going to be professional athletes, or even uni players. So what is the point of even having/funding high school sports? Sounds like a money-drain, right?

They are to teach, by practical application, that individual effort matters; that being a contributing part of a team, matters. That being honest, matters. That being personally accountable, matters. That treating your opponents with respect and dignity, matters.

Those lessons can be, and are, taught every day in every high school district in the land. They can be discussed and dissected in the classroom, but can only be put into the sharp relief they deserve, on the playing fields/pitches of sport/pretend war.

Ancient Greeks knew that and honored it. We should, too.

You are wise my friend. However, Sport in Texas often leads to a very competitive feeling. Make no mistake we are very nice people off the court/feild/diamond but on it we are out for blood.

Not that I condone that, some things that I heard and saw during my years as a highschool athlete ranged from the tame to deranged. Granted football is the worst but Texans take these things seriously. One of our few faults.