I laugh in the face of White Supremacist groups

[Rhyfelwyr]

I thought they were the consequences of YOUR argument, which I oppose?

No, you are saying racism is not to be blamed on factors such as poverty, ignorance, social factors etc, instead you just think it is because people are hateful.

Since there is no evidence that different races are inherently bad, it takes faith to believe in it.

Evidence is what you make of it. The facts don't change but I bet in Nazi Germany there was plenty of propaganda which the average person took as scientific evidence of 'Aryan' racial superiority. For them, it would be quite reasonable to believe white people are better than everone else.

Races can be different... black people tend to have darker skin than whites. Imagine that! What I object to is treating people like inferiors based on blanket judgments of entire races based on no evidence whatsoever or a really, really perverted twisting of evidence which does not reasonably lead to the conclusion that races are inherently better than others.

I agree with that, but remember what we know to be twisted evidence could be as good as proof to someone who doesn't have access to any other information.

Let's see... I don't go around spreading pamphlets which encourage hate and fear towards entire races of people. I don't call all whites, blacks, asians, hispanics, gays, lesbians, tall people, short people, republicans, democrats, independents, anarchists, fill-in-the-blanks as evil people who must be lower than the rest of us, must be destroyed or deported. Someone did say that non-Christians are/should/will burn in hell because they are inherently rotten to the core in terms of their morality, which puts them on a lower pedestal that the person in question. And racists do, in fact, tend to hate more than you or I, because they believe in hate, preach hate, teach hate, spread fear and misinformation, and refuse to let go of their beliefs in spite of evidence to the contrary, and often act on that faith to harass or assault those they think are inferior.

It's all one core concept which plagues humanity: The idea that you know for a fact that people are beneath you.

I do believe I said Christians deserved the same fate as non-Christians, that was the point in Christ dying on the cross. You are not spreading hate about those you listed, but you really do seem to hate white supremacists; not only for their views, but as people - you blame it all on them. You believe all racists are evil people, they sometimes believe certain races are evil. Of course, I am fairly certain the racists are wrong in thinking like this. But then I also believe you are mistaken in thinking all racists are by nature hateful, becauase you are taking one of those historic/social forces which emerges under certain conditions, and blaming it on the hatefulness of certain people.

Not all slaves hated white people; some of them were freed by white "masters", some of them were assisted in their freedom by white people, and white people fought a civil war and enacted legislation freeing them. Again, freedom is the watchword: choice is as well. Even people in dire circumstances do not HAVE to hate; it is not programmed into our genetics, and even our environment does not force us to hate. What is left? Choice. Choice to engage in hateful actions, believe hateful rhetoric, and spread vile hateful ideology.

Depends if they met decent white folk or not. If the only white people I knew were the ones who came out of nowhere on big ships, stole all my family, half killed me on a horrific journey across the ocean, then whipped me while I worked for nothing on my plantations - then I think it would not be unreasonbale to view white people with disdain. This may mean I hate them, it may mean that if I keep my emotions in check I would come to the apparently reasonable conclusion that people with white skin are all evil.

Since my first encounters with non-whites didn't go pleasantly, if I were a hateful person, I might have attributed that to their race. Since entire massive groups of people such as violent extremist religious groups are dedicated to crushing the infidel, converting the heretics and the sinners, and eliminating racial impurity, I might have good reason to hate them right back.

But I have a choice. And my choice is that I do not hate them. I denounce their actions as hateful, their teachings as baseless, immoral, and ignorant, and peacefully and civilly protest everything their ideology represents and their hate groups do in general. If they act on their hate, I say lock them away. But I have a choice; and my choice, in spite of a world filled with haters, is not to hate them back. Not to hate. It is the same choice we all have.

So, those who choose to hate and be intolerant, yes, they ARE more hateful than you or me. Period.

Why would you only attribute it to their race if you are hateful? It seems that it would be quite reasonable to conclude that for whatever reason the people with white skin are at least morally inferior. To them, it would be a good thing to drive the white away, because they are bad people - they don't have to hate them. Ridiculous example, but we don't call the good guys in Lord of the Rings 'hateful' beacuse they killed all the nasty orcs, do we?