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    There's a new gateway 'drug': candy.
    For this recipe, begin with kids being kids and doing odd stuff:
    But when a lunchtime crew of sixth-graders last fall started "smoking" Smarties, the tart, chalky candy discs wrapped in cellophane, lunchroom monitors and the school nurse were flummoxed.

    The children didn't light the candy. They crushed it into a fine powder in its wrapper, tore off one end, poured the powder into their mouths and blew out fine Smarties dust, mimicking a smoker's exhale.

    "It was freaky," says Corinne McGrew, a nurse for Summit School District. "My biggest concern was that they would aspirate the wrapper or a whole Smarties and it would be a choking hazard."

    The fad at Summit Middle School died down after a few days and some harsh words from the lunchroom staff. But at other schools and across the Internet, "smoking Smarties," as the activity has been labeled, is gaining popularity. Some children have even taken to snorting it, all to the horror of parents, teachers and the 60-year-old company that manufactures the candy.
    ...
    Cue the overreactions of various clueless people:
    School officials aren't amused. "It has come to our attention that some of our students are involved in something that is known as 'smoking Smarties,'" principal Phyllis Faust said in an email sent last year to parents of Hewitt-Trussville Middle School in Trussville, Ala. It called the practice "hazardous to your son or daughter's health."

    "I have made it clear to our students that possession of Smarties (or similar candy) will result in a Class II offense," which usually means detention, the note said.

    Jody Puryear, whose son Grant attends the school, says smoking Smarties could be a gateway leading "to smoking cigarettes or pot or anything else like that."
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    You agree then?
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Okay, here's another. We've posted stories of people getting shot in the head and the bullet not entering the skull, bouncing off or breaking up or some other lucky break.

    Here's a woman who got shot in the head by her angry husband, had the bullet enter her skull, pass between the two halves of her brain, and go out the back of her head.

    She made the cop who responded some tea.

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    BIRMINGHAM, Ala. – A Mississippi woman who was shot in the head not only survived but made herself tea and offered an astonished deputy something to drink, authorities said Friday. Tammy Sexton, 47, remained hospitalized three days after being wounded by her husband, who killed himself after he shot his wife. A bullet struck her squarely in the forehead, passed through her skull and exited through the back of her head, authorities said. She is expected to fully recover.

    "There's no way she should be alive other than a miracle from God," said Sheriff Mike Byrd of Jackson County, Miss.

    Byrd said deputies were looking for Sexton's husband, Donald Ray Sexton, earlier in the week to give him a document ordering him to stay away from his wife. Court records show he was put on probation for six months on April 9 for domestic violence.

    He showed up at their home in rural Jackson County in Southeast Mississippi about 12:10 a.m. Tuesday and confronted his wife as a relative ran next door to call police, the sheriff said.

    "She was at her bed, and he shot her right in the head," Byrd said. "Then he went out on the back porch and shot himself."

    A deputy was greeted by the woman when he arrived minutes after she was shot with the slug from a .380-caliber handgun.

    "When the officer got there she said, `What's going on?' She was holding a rag on her head and talking. She was conscious, but she was confused about what had happened," he said. "She had made herself some tea and offered the officer something to drink."

    Byrd said the bullet apparently passed through the lobes of the woman's brain without causing major damage. She was rushed to a Mobile hospital by a helicopter.

    While such cases may be rare, a neurosurgeon who wasn't involved in Sexton's case said such an outcome is possible. Medical journals also confirm people have been shot in the head with little or no lasting injury.

    "There is a space in the brain where a missile could pass without doing any major damage. Is it possible? Yes. It would be rare," said Dr. Patrick Pritchard, an assistant professor of surgery at the University of Alabama-Birmingham.

    The sheriff called the case bizarre.

    "You just don't hear of something like this. Somebody gets shot in the head and they're dead," Byrd said.


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    Wouldn't the exit wound leave a sizeable hole in her skull?

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    Wouldn't the exit wound leave a sizeable hole in her skull?
    Depends on caliber and type of the bullet IIRC. If it's a "normal" bullet and doesn't get too deformed I guess it can leave about the same as it entered.


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    Jody Puryear, whose son Grant attends the school, says smoking Smarties could be a gateway leading "to smoking cigarettes or pot or anything else like that."


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    Why does Strike for the South hate Ohio, anyway?

    Ohio Teacher Took Students To Strip Club

    A school spokesman said a southwest Ohio teacher has resigned after acknowledging she accompanied four female students to a male strip club. Butler Tech school district spokesman Bill Solazzo said the 47-year-old teacher resigned Thursday.

    He said the teacher told Edgewood High School administrators that the students, all cheerleaders, asked her to take them to the bar in February.

    The teacher told school officials in an e-mail that she got permission from the parents of the 17- and 18-year-olds to bring them to the club.

    The teacher taught marketing at the school and previously served as a coach for the district's eighth-grade cheerleaders.

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    I'm disapointed that he didn't end up having them hacked/chewed/sawn/bitten/shot off.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Important Information: How to Remove a Leech from an Eyeball

    The 66-year-old woman was gardening in the backyard of her suburban Sydney home in March last year, when she accidentally flicked some moist soil and the leech into her left eye. Her husband then watched in alarm as the leech wriggled its way over her cornea, headed for safety and a feed via the eye's mass of delicate blood vessels. [...]

    "It was tucked up underneath her upper eyelid,'' says emergency doctor Toby Fogg who helped to remove the blood-sucking critter.

    "Our little fellow started off at about half a centimetre and by the time we removed it it was about 2cm long - it had quite a good lunch.''

    Dr Fogg says tweezers were not an option as simply pulling the leech off could leave its head lodged in the eyeball, leading to infection. [...]

    Salt crystals also posed some risk of being "abrasive to the eyeball'' and so doctors turned to a hospital staple - saline solution which has many uses, including being used in intravenous drips for people who lack enough salt in their blood.

    "We thought 'well why don't we try this`, it's just thinking outside the box,'' Dr Fogg says.

    "It is available, cheap, and safe as far as using it on the eye is concerned and it worked beautifully, with just a few drops.

    "The leech rolled straight off, it just fell on to her cheek so we put it in a pot and gave it to her.''

    Saline solution was now recommended for the treatment of people with leeches on their eyeballs.

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    My dad told me that when he was in the marines they used to get rid of leechs by burning it off with a cigarette. That said, if it was my eyeball I think I'd prefer the salt water method.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    File this one under ewwwwwww ...

    Woman Faked Miscarriage With 'Animal Tissue'

    Deputies said a woman in South Florida has faked a miscarriage. The Broward county Sheriff's Office responded an emergency call of a possible miscarriage just before 8 a.m. Tuesday at an Oakland Park apartment. Upon arrival, they learned a woman staged the incident using what authorities described only as "animal tissue."

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    Looks like the octosquids are sending a message to the press ...

    Shark 'dumped' on Australia paper

    Police in south-west Australia say they are "dumbfounded" by the dumping of a live shark on the doorstep of a newspaper in Victoria state. The two-foot (60cm) creature was found lying at the front door of The Standard in Warrnambool city under cover of darkness after midnight on Wednesday.

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    "We arrived and poured some water on it just to see if it was still breathing and it kicked around for a little while," Constable Jarrod Dwyer told state radio.
    "We've had some strange things in the van before, but never a shark," he said.
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    Pregnant woman OK after being hit by car while fleeing bear

    DENVER — A pregnant woman who was fleeing a bear when she was struck by a slow-moving car said she would honor the euthanized animal by giving her baby the middle name "Bear." [...]

    Swendsen managed to scramble up an embankment and was crossing the street when she was hit by a slow-moving car. Although she was not seriously injured, she was taken to a hospital as a precaution because she was pregnant.

    Police said they're looking for the driver of the car that hit Swendsen. The driver stopped and spoke to her but left before police arrived.

    Swendsen said she first spotted the bear as it was coming out of a creek.

    "I didn't know what to do, so I just kept walking," she said. "I wasn't going to start sprinting."

    But she started running when the bear moved toward her.

    The Colorado Division of Wildlife said the chase happened in an area where bears are common. Division spokesman Michael Seraphin said the brown-colored North American black bear was tranquilized and later euthanized after Swendsen identified it.

    Swendsen said she was sad to hear about the bear's death.

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    Iowa shocker

    Jesse L. Fierstein, 32, of rural Manchester, was arrested Saturday for attempted murder after he allegedly struck his father, Charles Fierstine, 63, in the head with a flashlight and a piece of firewood. He then proceeded to cut a pacemaker from his father's chest using a pocketknife.
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    I ask because it's usually something like that which causes outbursts like this, needless to say I dissagree completely.

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    Just sad...
    KENOSHA - It was hard enough for Danelle Eckert to bury her son Colin Byars a few months back.

    "This has been the hardest two months of my life and it will never be the same," said Eckert.

    But now the heartache continues.

    "I was like what? You have to be kidding," she said.

    Her son was killed in February, but recently Eckert received a letter in the mail addressed to the estate of Colin Byars and Byars’ roommate, Robert Macedo.

    In it, CCRT Properties demanded rent from March and April, late fees, and a charge for terminating the lease with out proper notice.

    The total: more than $2,000.

    "It’s unbelievable people can be so ruthless and heartless," she said.
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    Looks like the octosquids are sending a message to the press ...

    Shark 'dumped' on Australia paper

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    Why would you do such a thing

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    A Swedish company has been fined 25,000 kronor ($3,000) after a malfunctioning robot attacked and almost killed one of its workers at a factory north of Stockholm.

    Public prosecutor Leif Johansson mulled pressing charges against the firm but eventually opted to settle for a fine.

    "I've never heard of a robot attacking somebody like this," he told news agency TT.

    [...]

    But the robot suddenly came to life and grabbed a tight hold of the victim's head. The man succeeded in defending himself but not before suffering serious injuries.

    "The man was very lucky. He broke four ribs and came close to losing his life," said Leif Johansson.
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    Swiss canton bans nude hiking. Dang it all, there goes my vacation plans.
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    Recession hits NYC hard, Lemur laid off.

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    Layoffs in the city have spread from the piggy traders on Wall Street to the animals at the Bronx Zoo.

    The institution is closing four exhibits and shipping hundreds of creatures to zoos and aquariums around the country, officials told the City Council Cultural Affairs Committee yesterday.

    Deer, bats, porcupines, foxes, lemurs, caimans and antelopes will be pink-slipped as part of the 114-year-old zoo's effort to cope with a $15 million budget shortfall.

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    where do you find all these pics, Lemur?
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    Deep in the Nevada badlands, an army approaches, poised to overrun the small towns far from civilization. But the people are ready to fight back against the Mormon army with rock music. Really loud rock music.

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    TUSCARORA, Nev. -- The residents of this tiny town, anticipating an imminent attack, will be ready with a perimeter defense. They'll position their best weapons at regular intervals, faced out toward the desert to repel the assault.

    Then they'll turn up the volume.

    Rock music blaring from boomboxes has proved one of the best defenses against an annual invasion of Mormon crickets. The huge flightless insects are a fearsome sight as they advance across the desert in armies of millions that march over, under or into anything in their way.
    [A Mormon cricket crosses a highway north of Sparks, Nev., in a recent spring. The 2-inch-long insects often carpet the arid landscape in the spring and summer, devouring vegetation and driving residents to distraction.] Reno Gazette-Journal

    A Mormon cricket crosses a highway north of Sparks, Nev., in a recent spring. The 2-inch-long insects often carpet the arid landscape in the spring and summer, devouring vegetation and driving residents to distraction.

    But the crickets don't much fancy Led Zeppelin or the Rolling Stones, the townspeople figured out three years ago. So next month, Tuscarorans are preparing once again to get out their extension cords, array their stereos in a quarter-circle and tune them to rock station KHIX, full blast, from dawn to dusk. "It is part of our arsenal," says Laura Moore, an unemployed college professor and one of the town's 13 residents.

    In flyspeck villages like Tuscarora, crickets are a serious matter. The critters hatch in April in the barren soil of northern Nevada, western Utah and other parts of the Great Basin, quickly growing into blood-red, ravenous insects more than 2 inches long.

    Then they march. In columns that in peak years can be two miles long and a mile across, swarms move across the badlands in search of food. Starting in about May, they march through August or so, before stopping to lay eggs for next year and die.

    In between, they make an awful mess. They destroy crops and lots of the other leafy vegetation. They crawl all over houses, and some get inside. "You'll wake up and there'll be one sitting on your forehead, looking at you," says Ms. Moore.

    They swarm on roads, where cars turn them into slicks that can cause accidents. So many dead ones piled up on a highway last year that Elko County, Nev., called in snowplows to scrape them off.

    Squashed and dying crickets give off a sickening smell. "For us, it's mostly the yuck factor," says Ron Arthaud, a painter here.

    Many springs, the infestation is negligible. But every few years, far bigger swarms hatch. From 2003 to 2006, armies of crickets went forth. They smothered the county seat, Elko, causing pandemonium as residents fled indoors. Realtor Jim Winer couldn't, because he had to show homes. "I carried a little broom in my car," he says, "and when I got out, I would sweep a path through the bugs to the house."

    Every half-century or so, plaguelike numbers hatch. The critters got their name in the 19th century after a throng of them ravaged the crops of a Mormon settlement. But "I don't think they care about Mormons or Baptists," says Lynn Forsberg, who runs Elko County's public-works program. "I don't think they care about anything."

    Including one another. Mormon crickets are programmed to march. Any cricket that falls by the wayside is eaten by others, ensuring that at least some cross the hot, barren stretches well-fed.
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    "Taking the gong and a club, she faced the army of crickets and beat hard." Read the 1934 article from the Elko Daily Free Press.

    Following an unseasonably warm winter, some in Elko County fear a big crop this year of Mormon crickets, known more precisely as shield-backed katydids, or Anabrus simplex. State entomologist Jeff Knight is using computer models to document when the crickets will hatch, and "once they have hatched, we will start going in and mapping where all the crickets are," he says.

    Towns in their path aren't waiting to find out. Elko County officials have stored tons of poison bait, which they'll soon start handing out. Placed properly, it can help. In 2003, which was a bad year, residents organized a bucket brigade to lay poison bait in the countryside, luring many bugs to their doom.

    But last year Diana Bunitsky sprinkled the bait too close -- right outside the rural diner she runs, Lone Mountain Station -- and crickets swarmed onto her property to gobble it. Ms. Bunitsky ran outside and sprayed them with a garden hose, "but when I looked back, they had gone around and were all over my walls," she says.

    Some people use chalk dust to try to smother crickets. Lori Roa, a job counselor in Elko, swears by Lemon Joy. She sprinkles the detergent over her shrubbery. In Jarbidge, Nev., Rey Nystrom, proprietor of the Jarbidge Trading Post, says a neighbor uses a squirt bottle loaded with soapy water. "But you're squirting one at a time, so it's spitting against the wind, so to speak," he says.

    Here in Tuscarora, signs are worrisome this spring. Numerous cricket nymphs in the sandy soil are beginning to wiggle, says Elaine Parks, a local artist.

    Tuscarora began as a gold-mining town in the late 19th century, and by 1878 had a population of 5,000. But the ore mostly petered out by 1900, and the town has been dwindling ever since, to its current size of just over a dozen. ("But in summer we get up to 20," says postmaster Julie Parks.)

    There are hints the community has mixed feelings toward its crickets. The town sports a giant sculpture of a Morman cricket, made out of chicken wire, burlap and glue. For the Fourth of July parade last year, three women dressed up as "cricket witches."

    But when a throng of crickets began to advance ominously on Tuscarora in the spring of 2006, Ms. Parks, the artist, dug up a 1934 article in the Elko Free Press about a woman who had used a Chinese gong to drive them away. That led to the modern adaptation of a boombox perimeter.

    "Crickets kind of sleep at night, so I would wake up first thing in the morning to get the music on and we would shut the music off at night," Ms. Moore says. Townsfolk cranked up the volume throughout the daylight hours for several days in a row.

    "The theory was they'd hate heavy metal," Ms. Parks says. Indeed, locals report, in 2006, at least, many of the bugs stopped in their tracks. Says Mr. Knight, the entomologist: "The vibrations may deter the bugs, but I don't know of any research that says yes or no."

    Some of the following year's crickets had hipper tastes, waltzing in to lay their eggs, as many as 100 apiece. In 2008, these eggs hatched right in the middle of Tuscarora. "They were crawling all over the side of the houses and three deep in the yard eating each other," Ms. Moore says.

    The nymphs now wriggling in the dry soil near homes are too close to people for poison bait, although residents will probably try some when the hatchlings start to move about.

    To fend off the armies marching in from outside, Tuscarora is ready to deploy the boombox defense again. "We'll have to come up with a playlist for the crickets," Ms. Parks says.

    They have a fallback strategy, to make even more noise if rock music isn't enough: The townsfolk plan to crank up their lawn mowers and Weed Whackers.
    Ja Mata, Tosa.

    The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Looks like the octosquids are sending a message to the press ...

    Shark 'dumped' on Australia paper

    Police in south-west Australia say they are "dumbfounded" by the dumping of a live shark on the doorstep of a newspaper in Victoria state. The two-foot (60cm) creature was found lying at the front door of The Standard in Warrnambool city under cover of darkness after midnight on Wednesday.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Why would you do such a thing
    Maybe it was a loan shark?
    "If there is a sin against life, it consists not so much in despairing as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this one."
    Albert Camus "Noces"

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