Twenty years after the wall

[Rhyfelwyr]

Ok, right...so it is not about freedom, it is about racism? You really believe that racism is part of rightwing policy? You have been talking to CA for too long I believe. Look at rightwing revolutions: The American Revolution, The Hungarian Revolution of 1848-49, etc. They are revolutions against oppressor states, not races or cultures. In both cases, the revolutionaries were of mixed race and culture, and were battling an oppressive government, NOT a people.

You ignored a big part of my post... look how I said that both the right and left wing ideologies can be violent/peaceful. Hungarian Revolution of 1848-9... isn't that the year I gave of my example of a peaceful form of nationalism? The different nationalities worked together in order to estbalish independece for their own states. You see this still today in places, like with the Scottish National Party and its support for Welsh independence. Heck even fascists like Oswald Mosley had elements of this utopian nationalism... he was a British nationalist who supported Irish independence.

By your own line of reasoning I could say that religious persecution is a leftist policy. Heck, Stalin did it, as did many of the 'communist' countries in the bloc, and minimization of religion is a large part of leftist doctrine in Western states today. You know what? I could make a MUCH better case for that then you could for racism being part of rightwing ideology.

EDIT: And nationalism is a thing of the right, correct? Ok...right. Tell that to all the bloc countries and the USSR. Sure, there was ideology there just as there was in rightwing places, but Nationalism played a BIG part.

Religious persecuation is a policy of the authoritarian Marxist, I have never argued the left is perfect. Stalin turned communism into an abomination (I'm not saying communism is great but he made his form extra nasty), the nationalism etc is nothing to do with Mr. Marx. "Socialism in one country" seems socially right-wing to me.