New Macedonia?

[Darius]

So in my current campaign as the glorious Roman Empire, I kicked Macedonia and the Hellenes out of Greece. However, Macedonia still had Mytilene and the Hellenes still had (Somehow) the bosphorous cities. Right now the Macedonians have half of Asia Minor under their control and the Hellenes are displacing the Sarmatians at a fairly steady rate. Anybody else find any of their former foes carving out new homes after displacing them?

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Stupid Romaioi happily exterminated the Gauls while I was exterminating them in Italia.

[Maion Maroneios]

So in my current campaign as the glorious Roman Empire, I kicked Macedonia and the Hellenes out of Greece. However, Macedonia still had Mytilene and the Hellenes still had (Somehow) the bosphorous cities. Right now the Macedonians have half of Asia Minor under their control and the Hellenes are displacing the Sarmatians at a fairly steady rate. Anybody else find any of their former foes carving out new homes after displacing them?

Two suggestions:
1) Rename the Koinon Hellenon to Bosporitai (People of the Bosphorus) or Basileion Bosporou (Kingdom of the Bosporus), since you said they're down to those cities.
2) Either rename Makedonia as Dynasteia <...> (Dynasty) according to the name of the leading family name (for example, the <...> would be Antigonidon, or "of the Antigonids" if they are descendants of Antigonos), or if you roleplayed them to be an entire new faction, rename them accordingly. For example, if their capital is in Pergamon you could rename them as Pergamon or Basileion Pargamou (Pergamese Kingdom).

Maion

[Andy1984]

Or you could just go after them and wipe them out. You probably won't miss them anyway.

[Alsatia]

I'd rather kill them off, get rid of those annoying long pointed things...

[Maion Maroneios]

I'd rather kill them off, get rid of those annoying long pointed things...

...

Maion

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

They fear us so much they want to see us dead even if we only occupy a remote strip of land.

[Darius]

I took over all of their lands except Mytilene and they happily became my client state. Makedonian slave nation ftw.

[teh1337tim]

I took over all of their lands except Mytilene and they happily became my client state. Makedonian slave nation ftw.

You will say enslaved nation when i stick my 16 foot sarissa up your bunhole and up your spine and through your mouth you dirty barbaroi! Even if we are isolated in the middle of nowhere, you fear us so much you wish to destroy us!

[Andy1984]

You will say enslaved nation when i stick my 16 foot sarissa up your bunhole and up your spine and through your mouth you dirty barbaroi! Even if we are isolated in the middle of nowhere, you fear us so much you wish to destroy us!

Now I've come to think of it... I don't think I would wipe out Makedonia. I would rather butcher their armies, again and again... like a cat playing with it's food...

[Alsatia]

This has become a Rome vs Greece thread.....

Maion, those phalanx are so annoying..... But how come they routed when I attack, or rather they attack, my roarii at the front.

Then again, macedonia wiped out my full stack near corinth the other day...

Call it equal?


Quare nequeo graeci consum amicus ut romani?

[Duguntz]

You will say enslaved nation when i stick my 16 foot sarissa up your bunhole and up your spine and through your mouth you dirty barbaroi! Even if we are isolated in the middle of nowhere, you fear us so much you wish to destroy us!

No no, you missed the point : Makedonians. A good comparaison would be the flie... You know, we don't fear flies... but we still want to kill them. Annoying would be the word!

By the way... The thread haven't become Romans against Hellenes... I'm Sweboz!

Cheers

[Alsatia]

Then it is greece vs everyone else since no other non hellenic faction badmouthed the romans. I think this statement may be proven wrong in the next two posts

Quare nequeo graeci consum amicus ut romani?

[Maion Maroneios]

I'm sure you all want me to reply (bet you're even begging me to do so ) but I won't. I won't spoil this thread

Maion

[PaxGetia]

Stupid Romaioi happily exterminated the Gauls while I was exterminating them in Italia.

they always act like that , they declare war to almost all neighbouring factions,i had an aliance with them, after that they suddently decleared war on me,i conquerd italy ,but the stupids were asaulting gaul and germania.

[MerlinusCDXX]

Then it is greece vs everyone else since no other non hellenic faction badmouthed the romans. I think this statement may be proven wrong in the next two posts

Quare nequeo graeci consum amicus ut romani?

Romans, they make good target practice for my young Pahlavan Dihqans, but then so do Greeks, and Swebozes. All you western footsloggers are good targets for my young nomads.

There, someone non-Hellenic badmouthed the Romans...and Greeks...and Barbaroi.

[Maion Maroneios]

Let me not open my moth about you filthy nomads. Ever heard that the Scythians bathes every 8 months or so? HA! Probably the same for the rest of you. Plus, the bow is a weapon of pure cowards. Let us see you on foot with a proper spear or sword. See if you'll be able to do any harm or boast of yourself then Truth is, we'd probably die of asphyxia due to the sheer stink of your unwashed bodies.

Maion

[Watchman]

Bah. Wimpy Hellens can't even shoot straight or take a little stink. (Though, didn't the horse nomads generally wash with horse urine ? Hygienic enough, if kinda pungent...)

[johnhughthom]

Why do you Greeks need such loooong spears? Are you trying to compensate for something? Real men fight on horseback, with arrows flying through the air and death could come at any moment, from any angle. With your Greek "pushy, pushy" matches you push a bit, get tired, push a bit, then go home because everybody get's bored.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Why do you Greeks need such loooong spears? Are you trying to compensate for something? Real men fight on horseback, with arrows flying through the air and death could come at any moment, from any angle. With your Greek "pushy, pushy" matches you push a bit, get tired, push a bit, then go home because everybody get's bored.

LOL!

[Zradha Pahlavan]

Let me not open my moth about you filthy nomads. Ever heard that the Scythians bathes every 8 months or so? HA! Probably the same for the rest of you. Plus, the bow is a weapon of pure cowards. Let us see you on foot with a proper spear or sword. See if you'll be able to do any harm or boast of yourself then Truth is, we'd probably die of asphyxia due to the sheer stink of your unwashed bodies.

You don't like it when we use bows? Fine! Let's see your horsemen take on ours, spear to spear. Oh, wait. You wouldn't like that, would you, since even the best Hellenic cavalry is nothing to the horsemen of the steppes. And that must be why you need to hide behind walls of phalangites.

And then there's the Romans. Those pompous, greedy, arrogant, wannabe-Hellenic fools have only gotten as far as they have because they stole the ideas of others.

Oh, and I almost forgot about the Celts and the Sweboz and whatever else they call themselves. Clearly they are insignificant, or I would have remembered. But they are almost as filthy and as obnoxious and as barbaric as the Hellenes, almost.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Only the mighty Germanikoi wash themselves everyday, that's why they invented the soap. You others better keep silent.

Try shooting your arrows in our forests, Nomads! We'll hide in the trees and jump on you like a nightmare from hell when you don't expect it.

[Andy1984]

I'm fairly sure the reason why these sweboz-I-feel-cool-naked-and-drunk-guys never got conquered in the first place is the complete lack of human behaviour.

'Hiding in trees'. How low can you go?

[Alsatia]

Ther germans, persians and internal disputes smashed the Romans in the end.

But the romans smashed Greece and Gaul and Carthage.

It is true the romans tried to copy greek warfare, but they changed their style because the formations were too rigid and were not suitable for the terrain and the enemy they were fighting against.

But Marian changed everything.

The greeks and the barbarians of gaul and germany were far from united, each at each other's throats. Then again, same for the roman politicians in the senate.

I'm fairly sure the reason why these sweboz-I-feel-cool-naked-and-drunk-guys never got conquered in the first place is the complete lack of human behaviour.

'Hiding in trees'. How low can you go?

Actually, the romans did conquer germany but they lost control of it in AD9-11.

There is a bad side to everyone. No faction is perfect.

Quare nequeo graeci consum amicus ut romani?

[A Terribly Harmful Name]

All these pikes are only part of the fervorous fetish for sodomy present among Macedonians. They should excel in their new role as filler for the nice cabarets of Macedonia, Roman Province, and also Macedonia, Bosphoritan Vassal State of the Sauromatae.

[Watchman]

Actually, the romans did conquer germany but they lost control of it in AD9-11.

A rather small northwestern corner of the whole thing HARDLY counts, I daresay. And that wasn't so much "conquered" as "friendly"... for a time.

[Fluvius Camillus]

YAY a ruined thread!

Nomads have the political stability of a cardhouse, a charismatic leader has to die and they fall into chaos and division. They're empires' life span is so short.

Barbarians uniting nothing more than a few tribes, even then the tribes where largely autonomous. Those brave Germans have never conquered, only hid. They only conquered when they fled for migrating nomads... Sending back the roman lands to chaos and destruction of art, science and architecture.

Hellens, proud people who have much in common with the Romani. They might say they stole the things they boast to have all found out themselves (Ancient Egyptians/Eastern Peoples anyone??). Romans have at least brougth stability to the region. We developed the Hellenistic culture further than the squabling Hellens could. Also the Byzantines made Greece a UNIFIED centre of the world once more, having the Hellenic/Roman lands at the top world order for a long time. Making new or perfectioning greek inventions. Something awed by at the Europeans. Greeks AND Romans made the Rennaissance, be proud, both. The romans had civil wars yes, but at least unified on larger scale. Greece was 3 city states of alliance 1 versus 3 city states of alliance 2. Roman civil wars were west empire vs east empire at least, tis all a matter of organisation.

~Fluvius

[the man with no name]

Only the mighty Germanikoi wash themselves everyday, that's why they invented the soap. You others better keep silent.

Try shooting your arrows in our forests, Nomads! We'll hide in the trees and jump on you like a nightmare from hell when you don't expect it.

You don't like it when we use bows? Fine! Let's see your horsemen take on ours, spear to spear. Oh, wait. You wouldn't like that, would you, since even the best Hellenic cavalry is nothing to the horsemen of the steppes. And that must be why you need to hide behind walls of phalangites.

And then there's the Romans. Those pompous, greedy, arrogant, wannabe-Hellenic fools have only gotten as far as they have because they stole the ideas of others.

Oh, and I almost forgot about the Celts and the Sweboz and whatever else they call themselves. Clearly they are insignificant, or I would have remembered. But they are almost as filthy and as obnoxious and as barbaric as the Hellenes, almost.

FYI guys the celts invented soap and along with the getae and swebozez washed themselves evveryday

The germans, persians and internal disputes smashed the Romans in the end.
But the romans smashed Greece and Gaul and Carthage.
It is true the romans tried to copy greek warfare, but they changed their style because the formations were too rigid and were not suitable for the terrain and the enemy they were fighting against.
But Marian changed everything.
The greeks and the barbarians of gaul and germany were far from united, each at each other's throats. Then again, same for the roman politicians in the senate.
Actually, the romans did conquer germany but they lost control of it in AD9-11
There is a bad side to everyone. No faction is perfect.
Quare nequeo graeci consum amicus ut romani?

FYI the Aedui once controled all of gaul so S T F U jk

Bah. Wimpy Hellens can't even shoot straight or take a little stink. (Though, didn't the horse nomads generally wash with horse urine ? Hygienic enough, if kinda pungent...)

Hellenes were always wimpy in the way of hygiene, they never even washed with soap!

Let me not open my moth about you filthy nomads. Ever heard that the Scythians bathes every 8 months or so? HA! Probably the same for the rest of you. Plus, the bow is a weapon of pure cowards. Let us see you on foot with a proper spear or sword. See if you'll be able to do any harm or boast of yourself then Truth is, we'd probably die of asphyxia due to the sheer stink of your unwashed bodies.

Maion

The makedonians hid behind different types of walls because they were 2 wimpy to fight like real men. U r right about nomads tho. See above 2 about washing.

YAY a ruined thread!

Nomads have the political stability of a cardhouse, a charismatic leader has to die and they fall into chaos and division. They're empires' life span is so short.

Barbarians uniting nothing more than a few tribes, even then the tribes where largely autonomous. Those brave Germans have never conquered, only hid. They only conquered when they fled for migrating nomads... Sending back the roman lands to chaos and destruction of art, science and architecture.

Hellens, proud people who have much in common with the Romani. They might say they stole the things they boast to have all found out themselves (Ancient Egyptians/Eastern Peoples anyone??). Romans have at least brougth stability to the region. We developed the Hellenistic culture further than the squabling Hellens could. Also the Byzantines made Greece a UNIFIED centre of the world once more, having the Hellenic/Roman lands at the top world order for a long time. Making new or perfectioning greek inventions. Something awed by at the Europeans. Greeks AND Romans made the Rennaissance, be proud, both. The romans had civil wars yes, but at least unified on larger scale. Greece was 3 city states of alliance 1 versus 3 city states of alliance 2. Roman civil wars were west empire vs east empire at least, tis all a matter of organisation.

~Fluvius

right about nomads, wrong about barbarians(see above), right about hellens. these are my

[Fluvius Camillus]

Thanks for the review

Yea barbs was written quite fast, stlll, I never knew the Aedui controlled so much of Gaul... i will investigate this... And if they controlled it, wasnt I still right about the autonomy?

~Fluvius