Hoplitai too weak ?

[Satyros]

1) Phalangites are supposed to beat Hoplitai
2) Hoplitai are way more flexible than phalangites
3) Hoplitai in guard mode are tanks and can withstand a pike phalanx forever
4) Hoplitai are very cost effective
5) Hoplitai have excellent defense and morale
6) They are not made to withstand heavy/elite/AP infantry
7) Spartiatai and Epilektoi are expensive because they are elite hoplites
8) The phalanx formation has a very specific role: Break the enemy through attrition, not kill them fast

Maion

Friend ,

what about the "push" effect of the hoplite phalanx formation that is supposed to break enemy lines ? i beleive that this is supposed to be their main offensive capability and we don't get to see much of it in EB . (Just a statement , *not* nagging about it as I understand that the team does its best within certain engine limitations )

This can't be achieved with the guard button .

They are quite good as an anvil tactics-wise , only I believe that this should be a part of their possible tactical role in a battle , the other being the push/break formations effect . I hate seeing my hoplites being pushed around .

Otherwise all above statements are true .

Satyros