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    Default Re: Mafia Mongolica (IN PLAY)

    Quote Originally Posted by Reenk Roink View Post
    Your label refers to the use of the word amorphous.
    I meant it exactly as it means. The reasons you gave were amorphous.

    I admit, even I of all people sometimes fall into this trap.

    However, I'm probably not falling into it here. Essentially, I was not

    First. what did you mean by this?
    It's a trend I've noticed in studying Sasaki. So far, my main failing in mafia games has been in detecting mafioso. Being a mafioso I can manage just fine, but since probability dictates I don't get that job very often, improving my townie game is important to me. In the games I have played, Sasaki has far and away been the person who has been best at spotting mafioso based on nothing more than in-thread behavior. I have specifically asked him about his methods before, and he has stated that it is done by looking for changes in character that are both macro and micro in nature (my own words, not his). On a macro level, changes in behavior between games. On a micro level, contradictions in behavior and arguments within a single game. This is what I have been trying to do for my last several games.

    I'll give you a direct insight into my reasoning (prepare to be enlightened :lightbulb:):

    ... (cut for brevity)

    Now then, if I did misinterpret or intentionally distort your statement, you have already gotten me for it. Will you now be as courteous enough to actually make clear what you meant by it as I did for you when you misinterpreted or intentionally distorted my statements? Thank you.
    You did not misinterpret, everything you said in the above (abbreviated) quote is what I meant.

    In any case, "I simply believe they warrant further examination of that person" is certainly not your simple belief as I have shown above with another post on the same matter. Maybe you forgot what you believed? Maybe you are lying?
    The answer is neither. I have found that there are two methods of putting pressure on people in mafia games. The first is dialog. The second is voting. For me, voting is an escalation of pressure that I use when I am not satisfied with the results of the dialog. In your case, at this moment I feel that more pressure is warranted on you and discussion is not doing it. I therefore intend to vote for you next round to increase the pressure. I used the word "likely" because I have no way of knowing what will happen between now and then. It is entirely possible that something else could arise that would make me suspect someone else more than you. Thus, the vote is currently likely, but not certain.

    Well, I even pointed you to the games in question. I didn't make a whole lot of posts to deal with anyway.

    I sympathize with your limitations, but is it really an excuse for you to vote against me because I have changed my behavior admitting that you are only going by a limited sample of my play? You're even not accepting my invitation to actually check out further evidence.

    You seem to be stating that although you are aware of your limited sample into my gameplay, you will still draw out the conclusion from that unrepresentative sample. Ok then...
    In addition to the time constraints, there is no need for me to do it in this situation. If I am wrong, others with knowledge of your play style will point it out to me. I am fond of shortcuts that save me from reading through masses of old posts.
    Last edited by TinCow; 07-24-2009 at 23:06.


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