Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
Any movie that is hugely successful is a good movie, whether you like it or not. Same with bands.

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Since I'm detecting a bit of intellectual snobbery in this thread and it's a pet peeve of mine I'll post this comparison:

Let's get retarded--black eyed peas
vs.
Beethoven's 5th symphony

Now ask yourself, which is more intellectual? Which has more meaning? Your instinct may be to say the Beethoven but any objective look at the two songs shows that the "let's get retarded" is infinitely more intellectual. The 5th symphony is a visceral experience while the black eyed peas song has a clearly expressed message about life. Remember that the next time you hear someone dissing something popular as idiotic. Odds are they think highly of Beethoven's fifth and van gogh's pictures of flowers, neither of which are intellectual in the slightest. It's merely a matter of taste, and being snobby about it is as silly as claiming coke and pepsi are for the moronic masses and that smart people drink dr pepper.
Yes and no. Classical music doesn't have a monopoly on music but I wouldn't call "Let's Get Retarded" deeper. A message does not have to expressed in lyrics, or even be a concrete thing. Saying that one piece of music is better because it has lyrics, going back to your soda metaphor, is like saying coke is better then pepsi just because coke has better content on it's label. People who say that the 5th symphony is deeper point to the greater depth of composition, direction of the music and emotion built in it. It is not any less deep because it doesn't hit the listener over the head with its message.