Quote Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre View Post
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If this Twillight you're talking about the same as the miniseries recently aired on the local NBC clone, then it's total heresy. A vampire going around under noon sun with raybands?

Apparently it's a heavy bastardization of World of Darkness, on which Vampire Bloodlines was based. Having a vampire endure sunlight is the most unacceptable heresy, no blasphemy!

I did watch it though, thanks to the blonde chick.
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Blade had vampires in sunlight too. Sunscreen with a high spf, makes sense.

Quote Originally Posted by Lord Winter View Post
Yes and no. Classical music doesn't have a monopoly on music but I wouldn't call "Let's Get Retarded" deeper. A message does not have to expressed in lyrics, or even be a concrete thing. Saying that one piece of music is better because it has lyrics, going back to your soda metaphor, is like saying coke is better then pepsi just because coke has better content on it's label. People who say that the 5th symphony is deeper point to the greater depth of composition, direction of the music and emotion built in it. It is not any less deep because it doesn't hit the listener over the head with its message.
What you get out of the 5th symphony is something I would vaguely call "listening pleasure". Hard to pin down exactly. You get the same from "let's get retarded" (or maybe not, and maybe you don't like either of them). Could you express the message of the 5th symphony? I don't believe there is one. How about the message of this:



Of course, you might subscribe to the school of thought that describes a modern art "black square" painting as symbolizing the triumph of the old over the new, of eastern thinking over western thinking blah blah, but I think we can agree that that's baloney. The painting here is simply nice to look at. I don't care for messages in my music personally, just pointed that out to knock people off their intellectual high horse.

Many people just don't like popular music or movies--but the effort to divide all art into "high art" and "low art" is as silly as being elitist about what soda you drink. And of course, people are snobby about the beer they drink which isn't far off...

Of course the irony is that the people who are the biggest intellectual snobs are the ones who would benefit the most from "disconnecting from all intellect and letting the rhythm affect" them.