There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
I think the backroom is about measuring your wits, not ~
~ It is surpising how swiftly we moved from the opiates to sex... Tz-tz-tz...
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Last edited by Prince Cobra; 11-05-2009 at 19:20.
R.I.P. Tosa...
Eating a pizza, unhealthy yet pleasurable
Riding a motorcyle, risky yet fun (I believ 16x more likely to die)
Drinking coffee, a stimulant, unhealthy
So being "unhealthy", "risky" or "a drug" is fine. But obviously the goverment has some responsibility.
About 5,000 people a year die in motorcyle accidents, and you are about twice as likely to die if you take a bike compared to a car. So that's 2,500 deaths a year the government could prevent by banning motorcyles. And all the extra injuries as well, probably 99% of motorcyle accidents result in injury. The rate of death is 66.7 per 100,000.
So if you support motorcyles being legal, should you support any drug being legal that has a death rate of 66.7 per 100,000 or less?
Some drugs have other concerns besides death, but I left the amputated arms and smashed in faces out of the motorcyle equation too because I didn't want to take the time to look it up.
Many owners of motorcycles are responsible people. Motorcycle is meant to be a transport vehicle.The example you gave is a simple abuse. Some drugs are used in the medicine and that's not illegal. Using your example, legalisation of the drugs is abolishing the speed limit.
Ooops, Sasaki, I thought you voted for full legalisation...
Last edited by Prince Cobra; 11-05-2009 at 19:49.
R.I.P. Tosa...
I voted 'Decriminalise use and supply'.
Hmm, I'm the only one who did so. Two concerns are behind my vote:
1) Frustration over criminalization of drugs and the effect this has on law and order.
Notably:
- the strain on law enforcement,
- the huge profits. Unsolvable. The more drugs are interecpted, the higher the price becomes.
- the trickling upwards of these billions and billions, which undermines the legal economy. This effect must not be underestimated.
- the destabilising effect on producing countries. See: Colombia and Afghanistan.
- crime, and the formation and perpetuation of sensitive urban areas / ghetto's.
2) Drugs are bad.
Much worse, I think, than many proponents of legalization argue. This includes alchol, which I think comes at the highest social cost of all drugs.
Drugs are explosive goods, and need to be tightly monitored by the government. I am not in favour of the somewhat arbitrary division of alcohol legal and cannabis illegal. Both need to be monitored closely.
It seems that you rationale doesn't match your vote. You want close montoring and control - but have elected to leave drugs in a totally uncontrolled market.
Personally I think decriminalisation is perhaps the worst answer. It refuses to stop, control or take any responsibility for a criminal market.
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
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