Jesus Dies For Our Sins... How To Ask Him To Erase All The Porn?

[Mooks]

Meh, every day that you look at a women in lust you commit adultery. Think about that for a second. If you dont use the porn you already accumulated your going to use your imagination. Its the same sin. Might as well keep the porn.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Meh, every day that you look at a women in lust you commit adultery. Think about that for a second. If you dont use the porn you already accumulated your going to use your imagination. Its the same sin. Might as well keep the porn.

This would be my view, but I would add that self-deception is more likely to anger God than anything else.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

As one of the profound thinkers of the early church put it:

"Lord, Give me chastity and continence...but not yet." -- St. Augustine


There has always been an argument as to whether asceticism was a superior path to God's grace. Denial of the flesh and emphasis on that which is spiritual is a recurrent theme. The other side of the coin is, of course, that God caused us to come into being with these physical desires and to live in a physical world where we must consume food etc. on a regular basis or perish.

I think the basic issue at hand for you is the extent to which such activities leave you self-absorbed and un-connected to others and God. I suspect that the answers to that are pretty well individual. God already knows your answer...but do you?

[Cute Wolf]

Yeah, that ever meddling priests just quesioned me again, and after read some of your arguments, I was going into lengthy debate with him... And while I must admit that seeing excessive porns is certainly wrong, and I did consider to reduce that to bare minimum, he asked for me to erase all my games, and replace it with more works on the church . . . . When I ask why? he points out that playing games was not good for the mental health of a CHILD(!), and a child who had exposure to porns and games (he used that phrase again... porns and games) since his youth will develop anti social traits, and must be distanced away from them, in order to gain better social skills.....

WHAT THE? I know that I didn't have much friends at the church... but I have a lot there, at the univ and neighbourhood.... and while he argues that has deletrious efects to a child, he should know that he speaks with 21 years old.... and when I said it was my own business, he threatens to contact my parents.... (my elderly parents live in another city, but having them contacted with a priest who said that their only son collects porn will always generate anoxiousity... and I don't want to made my parents had bad things on their mind about me...)

I'm just tired because of that.... if I don't leave my laptop so recklessly, all of it wouldn't be happened....

Yeah, but anyway, I've decide to erase all my porn... and didn't sent into skullhead foundation because all will takes hundreds of gigabytes....

But when I want to press the "format" button, for some unexplainable reason, I couldn't delete them... (it was set on entirely separate HD partition)... it was really difficult things to do, and then I asked myself... did that was a sign of porn addiction?

The one Christian advice I can give you is to change denomination and become a Porn Again Christian.

LOL
did you have some arguments that tolerate porns at the bible? I sorely need them...

[drone]

WHAT THE? I know that I didn't have much friends at the church... but I have a lot there, at the univ and neighbourhood.... and while he argues that has deletrious efects to a child, he should know that he speaks with 21 years old.... and when I said it was my own business, he threatens to contact my parents.... (my elderly parents live in another city, but having them contacted with a priest who said that their only son collects porn will always generate anoxiousity... and I don't want to made my parents had bad things on their mind about me...)

And with that, it's obvious that the priest is just trying to control you. Instead of giving you a better religious argument, he issues threats. Leave that church now, threats be damned. If you don't it will only get worse.

[Cute Wolf]

And with that, it's obvious that the priest is just trying to control you. Instead of giving you a better religious argument, he issues threats. Leave that church now, threats be damned. If you don't it will only get worse.

Well, maybe I should look for another church then....

[Louis VI the Fat]

did you have some arguments that tolerate porns at the bible? I sorely need them...

1 - Unfortunately you sound most Protestant.


Me, I'm post-Catholic. I understand that sometimes the mind may be willing, but that the flesh is weak. This world being imperfect, man is not perfect, sinful. You are a mortal, imperfect. As are your fellow men, so one's sins are not for others to judge, but between you and your God. This God is forgiving. He did not cast you on this world to suffer, in some depraved act that merely plays out the lives of those predestined to fail, only to punish them for the inevitable.

One ought to struggle to do what is right, repent for that for which one did not find the strength, and for all the rest trust that God, who has shared the fate of the mortal, understands the weakness of the flesh.



2 - Me, I don't have any porn on my computer. I dislike it. I don't consider porn a grave sin. It's just...I enjoy feminine beauty, and watch the odd picture or so, but I'm more intruiged by what remains craftily suggested than what is crassly shown.



3 - Living the right life does not mean depriving oneself of all pleasures of this life. That's for sects. In the appendix to Dawkins' 'The God Delusion', there is a list of adresses for individuals needing support in escaping from religion. My print does not have an adress in Indonesia, but should you need help or counsel, the Council of Australian Humanist Societies can provide it for you in escaping these people.

[Cute Wolf]

but it was all weird anyway... if you ask me to escape again from religion... If you want to know, before deciding to back into Christianity, I was largely agnostic and didn't respect much for the religion... It was my breakup with my muslim girlfriend (caused by external pressures), turned me for a while into a hateful, distressed entity, and at those times, reading the bible again gives me hope and recover, and I even decide to get another relationship with my childhood friend (which was still stable now, despite some problems arise and go)...

Must I going back into agnosticism again just because some meddlesome priests?

[Furunculus]

Must I going back into agnosticism again just because some meddlesome priests?

nope, but should certainly be wary of that nut-bag priest.

[Pannonian]

but it was all weird anyway... if you ask me to escape again from religion... If you want to know, before deciding to back into Christianity, I was largely agnostic and didn't respect much for the religion... It was my breakup with my muslim girlfriend (caused by external pressures), turned me for a while into a hateful, distressed entity, and at those times, reading the bible again gives me hope and recover, and I even decide to get another relationship with my childhood friend (which was still stable now, despite some problems arise and go)...

Must I going back into agnosticism again just because some meddlesome priests?

Read Schindler's Ark. One of the greatest examples of the individual's ability to decide what is right and wrong in those darkest of times. The serially drinking, gambling, womanising Schindler was a greater holy man than your priest will ever be.

[Subotan]

LOL
did you have some arguments that tolerate porns at the bible? I sorely need them...

It's a sign you're not gay

[Centurion1]

im not a big porn guy myself so i cant believe you had 100's of gigabytes!!!!!! or were you kidding.

Plus you dont watch another dudes porn man............ thats personal **** right there.

[Hax]

and i can admit im not a perfect human being. which in my mind is the most important thing. i think porn in theory is wrong sort of and i can understand the churchs position on it but i also realize that i am not perfect and have poor self discipline regarding the flesh, and food, and language, and fighting, and oh god whatever im a weak person

Self

Judgment.

Acknowledging your "weakness" (we'd need to first define what it is, exactly) doesn't make it any better.