The next game in the total war series?

[lionhard]

Does any 1 know what its gonna be? Im gonna have an orgasm if its rome 2 total war. I want peoples opinion on what iv just found.

Check this link out and look where it says rome total war. The dates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_War_(series)

Edit : DAMN IT i just read it properly and its sum stupid mac gold release that came out this year. i thought it was gona be rome 2 total war. FS im not happy

[Apázlinemjó]

Does any 1 know what its gonna be? Im gonna have an orgasm if its rome 2 total war. I want peoples opinion on what iv just found.

Check this link out and look where it says rome total war. The dates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_War_(series)


Edit : DAMN IT i just read it properly and its sum stupid mac gold release that came out this year. i thought it was gona be rome 2 total war. FS im not happy

I wonder what will be their next game... maybe a second Shogun or an ETW expansion?

[Duguntz]

Another shogun would be truly awesome, seeing the progress that have been made in the serie since the first!

[HunGeneral]

I tihink I would like to see a Rome 2 total war - but more modeable then N:TW so it can be used as a basis for EB III.

[Duguntz]

EB 2 isn't even close to be out on BETA and you already speak about a EB 3? maybe when gaming will be on hologram, and no more car will be used, coz we'll use teletransportation!

[lionhard]

shogun off, rome 2 all the way. How come EB 2 has taken so long comparesant to EB 1? just a random question their for ya

[Mediolanicus]

shogun off, rome 2 all the way. How come EB 2 has taken so long comparesant to EB 1? just a random question their for ya

Gangstah language... cute...

AFAIK EB to its final version took 4 years...

And MTW2 is only 3 years out + there's more units to be modelled since the clone units of RTW are no more, there seems to be even more research on EB II and I don't know for sure, but it seems the team is smaller (at least the modellers and stuff).

[vartan]

If CA spends time and energy making a new Rome, I wish for it to take an open-ended approach. That is, I wouldn't want to play a half-effort game, like NTW. I would like something that is very open to modification as well as something that has many years of effort in it, just like EB and EBII.

P.S. Lionhard if you're going to curse, please censor the whole word and not part of the word. Forum rules.

[Duguntz]

P.S. Lionhard if you're going to curse, please censor the whole word and not part of the word. Forum rules.

Don't worry, he ment... Flower...

[Mediolanicus]

Don't worry, he ment... Flower...

I personally think that particular forum rule is flower, but if you flower just for the sake of flowering to look cool, like he seems to be doing, I find that (and I'm completely at loss for the right English word here, it's late and I don't want to think about it, so find your own word that fits here and means that I get irritated, find it childish and things like that).

Back on topic: I don't care what time period the next TW-game is about, as long as the gameplay and modding possibilities are better than ETW and NTW.

[Hannibal Khan the Great]

I would love either Dark Ages TW or Nomad TW....

[Mediolanicus]

I would love either Dark Ages TW or Nomad TW....

That's actually a good idea... I'd buy them.

[Tellos Athenaios]

When in doubt, use a daisy: It is Backroom convention and works well enough.

Anyway why does it take so long...? How long have we yet been at it? A year, two if you count some pre-production planning? I do know it took spare time from me for about 6 months all in all to get a reasonably solid font tool done, so we can now finally mod fonts in TW games. I also know I did not work exactly 9 to 5 on it 5 days a week, either. Granted it probably would've been done sooner if I had been content to do a more straightforward system font -> game font converter; but now we can do stuff you simply didn't see in M2TW with it. It's that kind of attitude which slows us down yet produces ultimately a better result if you don't consider ETA's all that important.

[bobbin]

shogun off, rome 2 all the way. How come EB 2 has taken so long comparesant to EB 1? just a random question their for ya

More factions, more researching, more units, far more skinning work, more complex game mechanics and the fact that many people were still working on EB in the early days. Take your pick.

Re: the OP I'd say RTW2 would be the obvious choice as it was one of their most sucessful games.

edit: looks like Tellos beat me to it

[lionhard]

Ok lets go off topic to talk about flowers real cool guys real fricken cool.

If they make a rome 2 they beta make it more realistic, they must have been inspired by what u guys did with EB, i cant belive they havnt announced nothing yet because before every other game has been out theve announced the next in line. If its shogun im gonna see my ****

[vartan]

Ok lets go off topic to talk about flowers real cool guys real fricken cool.

If they make a rome 2 they beta make it more realistic, they must have been inspired by what u guys did with EB, i cant belive they havnt announced nothing yet because before every other game has been out theve announced the next in line. If its shogun im gonna see my ****

I'd much rather discuss English grammar and vocabulary usage, since it is clearly far more interesting a topic to discuss.

[A Nerd]

Some might be dissapointd in a STW2 that uses the new campaign map like everything after MTW considering how well those games worked and how some think they were the best in the series. Personally, I would like pretty much anything because I have enjoyed all of the titles. I just hope it's more moddable, especially after playing some of the talented mods out there.

[WinsingtonIII]

My guess is that they'll go for Rome 2: Total War. It was an extremely popular title and probably the most popular historical time period they've ever done. I also believe that if they do make a Rome 2: Total War, it will be much more historically accurate than the first Rome. Not up to EB standards, to be sure, but definitely better than the original Rome; because that was the low point for the series in terms of historical accuracy and they actually do seem to be making much more of an effort towards historical accuracy in Napoleon.

As for what I'd most like to see, it wouldn't be Rome 2. EB2 will already fill that niche fine for me. I would love to see a Dark Age: Total War, like Hannibal Khan said. They've never really done that time period, other than Viking Invasion, and that was only of Scandinavia and the British Isles. A full Europe/Middle East campaign in this period could be very interesting.

[stratigos vasilios]

I would be curious to see if an Americas TW would work, ie. pre European contact. But I'm not sure how much literature is available to really make an accurate game. Also what's everyones thoughts on an Indian TW, each kingdom vying for power with elephants being more readily available weapons!

[Unintended BM]

I think they'll probably stick with gunpowder and do the American Civil War or something. That's my guess. I doubt they'd go back to ancient times yet.

[vartan]

I think they'll probably stick with gunpowder and do the American Civil War or something. That's my guess. I doubt they'd go back to ancient times yet.

Precisely. They're headed down a slippery slope straight toward WWII, Korea, Vietnam...

[Krusader]

E3 is on the 15th to 17th June so I'm sure we'll be told the next Total War then.

Personally the only Total War titles I'm looking forward to is Shogun and Medieval 1 on gog.com.
And EB2 is latest EB. No EB3.

[Cute Wolf]

Shogun 2 will be good, I can't wait to see my samurai archers and Teppo collect many ashigaru heads in better 3D!

BTW : Very much true, vanilla Empire is a junk and pretty much worthless.... but Napoleon is far better than the Empire.... especially Napoleon is far more balanced...

[Badass Buddha]

A traditional Total War game set during the Second Industrial Age or later would be impossible, due to scale, and the changing face of warfare. It already takes a heavy suspension of disbelief to play an ancient army no larger than 4800 men, and when you start talking about single armies of many hundreds of thousands being shrunk to the size a brigade, things get ridiculous. Even if the armies were shrunk, the battlefields would have to be immense to take into account artillery even from a relatively short 10 miles away. How would the mechanics for air strikes work? There would need to be mechanics for choosing an area and fortifying it. No one has a computer strong enough to do all that yet.

Also, they'd probably whitewash the hell out of the more recent stuff, like removing all the swastikas from German uniforms or some such crap.

[Ibrahim]

A traditional Total War game set during the Second Industrial Age or later would be impossible, due to scale, and the changing face of warfare. It already takes a heavy suspension of disbelief to play an ancient army no larger than 4800 men, and when you start talking about single armies of many hundreds of thousands being shrunk to the size a brigade, things get ridiculous. Even if the armies were shrunk, the battlefields would have to be immense to take into account artillery even from a relatively short 10 miles away. How would the mechanics for air strikes work? There would need to be mechanics for choosing an area and fortifying it. No one has a computer strong enough to do all that yet.

Also, they'd probably whitewash the hell out of the more recent stuff, like removing all the swastikas from German uniforms or some such crap.

simple: they won't.

WW1 and WW2 era battles can only be the preserve of either purely RTS* or TBS. a hybrid of the two, like the total war series, isn't a good design for this. Ironically, WW1 is theoretically even harder to do than WW2, because of the need to represent hundreds of miles of trenches and fortifications in one go (afterall, fighting was pretty much along the whole front, 24/7). this would break all but the supercomputer to do. at least in WW2's case, you can make the multiple mini army approach represent a WW2 offensive, but again, we run into the problem of scale. plus, in both wars, soldiers no longer went into the fray with formal close order groups, which furthur adds to the problem.

as in the style of thousands of little sprites, like AoE or American Conquest, both of which i still, on occasion, play.

[Duguntz]

I for my part, would be really interested in a TW game on the time of emerging civilisations. we speak about 4000 BC and onward. Faction like Akkad, Sumer, Egypt, even Minoan (though they're younger than the 3 previous). I'd go even further in time, like Neolithic, but then, scale would be a big problem. But to me the emergence of civilisation is a really interesting period!

[Tellos Athenaios]

Hmm CA might just do an All Under Heaven. It ticks all the boxes: similar yet varied factions, a fascinating timeline, exotic factions and possibility for civil war. As far as the military go you have the mix of gunpowder units, very different battleships; and a more traditional army with the complete tactical array of shock troops to militia, plus some more exotic units depending on how inclusive the map is. By contrast a Rome 2 Total War cannot offer quite the same number of graphical/tactical `selling' points[*].

Otherwise a Warring States game. Of course Rome 2 Total War is also possible, but SEGA did just allow the release of Rome Total War on Mac which may not be the best moment for announcing a Rome 2.
[*] Yes there are some quite amazing exceptions. Just that they are/were somewhat more limited in scope and hence not as readily available on a battlefield.

[Skullheadhq]

Let's hope that the next TW won't be the American Civil War, but one that players from around the world know something about and is interesting for all.

[Duguntz]

It's funny to see how so many people claims that their country is filled with unprecedented glory and history, even more when nobody knows about it, they claim that they've been forgoten by historian, but when it comes to America they couldn't care less! Makes me laugh...

[Mulceber]

Let's hope that the next TW won't be the American Civil War, but one that players from around the world know something about and is interesting for all.

Yeah, besides, CA wouldn't create a game in which Total War actually WAS practiced. That would break the rules.