Essentual units to use 'Alt-Click' with

**vartan** · 06-20-2010, 07:57

Originally Posted by Cute Wolf

yeah, ap - poking sticks for cavalry are quite overpowered, especially against armoured targets in melee, if you have BI, you could receive more realistic result by removing AP properties, adding 4 points of damage, and give power_charge attribute, that way, they stops being excellent can-opener with poking sticks, as well as being more realistically devastating to unarmoured infantry

Gamegeek is right about the lethality. It's so to make balanced the charge. So why do you say that the "poking stick" was more devastating to unarmoured infantry and that it is overpowered against armoured units in melee? Where did that come from?

**Cute Wolf** · 06-20-2010, 08:44

Originally Posted by vartan

Gamegeek is right about the lethality. It's so to make balanced the charge. So why do you say that the "poking stick" was more devastating to unarmoured infantry and that it is overpowered against armoured units in melee? Where did that come from?

try pitting TWO leuce epos (no javelin throwed) against a Nietos, and then try Pitting TWO leuce epos against a Milhant (unarmoured one), the nietos will be likely to be slaughtered, but the Milhant will got a close victory for the most...

**Apázlinemjó** · 06-20-2010, 09:53

Milnahts' half-naked bodies break lances!

**Rahwana** · 06-20-2010, 10:11

Originally Posted by Apázlinemjó

Milnahts' half-naked bodies break lances!

and the lances seems reluctant to see Gaesatae's wee wee... they still alive after a lance pierce them for the first time

**Grade_A_Beef** · 06-22-2010, 21:11

Babylonian Heavy Spearmen (Shipri Tukul I believe)

Anyhow you want to avoid using alt click for most units that have a longsword primary and spear secondary. This mainly applies to Arjos, Solduros, Massalian Hoplites, Hypastpistai, and the Getai infantry elites...Men of Ordes or something like that. More may come to mind, but those units are all elites or good regulars and units most people would be rather fond of using, so watch out.

**Moosemanmoo** · 06-22-2010, 21:15

Would it be useful to disable some secondaries? For instance my Hypaspists keep switching from longsword to spear, rendering them weaker (ofc not against cav)

**vartan** · 06-22-2010, 21:59

Originally Posted by Moosemanmoo

Would it be useful to disable some secondaries? For instance my Hypaspists keep switching from longsword to spear, rendering them weaker (ofc not against cav)

Just halt and reorder the attack every minute because the soldiers that fall are the ones that switch to spears (as if they had lost their sword...).