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TinCow
05-27-2009, 21:44
This is just a reminder that posting/PMing about the game outside this thread is prohibited after you are dead.

:bow:

Greyblades
05-27-2009, 21:44
Hmm on reflection(and after reading through the last page again) it seems that I shouldn't vote when I have a headache.
Unvote, Vote: GSC

Andres
05-27-2009, 21:45
Hmm on reflection(and after reading through the last page again) it seems that I shouldn't vote when I have a headache.
Unvote, Vote: GSC

You need to bold your vote.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-27-2009, 21:55
This is just a reminder that posting/PMing about the game outside this thread is prohibited after you are dead.

:bow:

I was Planning on posting ant orders in Thread :bow:

AggonyDuck
05-27-2009, 22:02
If you backed out, then what did you do instead?

Same question for AggonyDuck.



I actually ended up doing nothing that night as I couldn't be bothered to go through the effort of coordinating a night time action with someone else. With hindsight I should had propably contacted Sasaki and ask if I could assist in any way, but I didn't.

Caius
05-27-2009, 22:25
I denamnd some aten teiion.

Thhis pc is slow than a pc loaded with 64460 viru7ses toghetgher. Cant be bothered to chan ge my mistages. Myust be some kin d of virs. gah

Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2009, 22:56
I investigated Gaius Scribonius Curio.

The results came back that he was doing no actions on that night and that he was a Senator of a certain faction.

I do not believe it is Gaius Scribonius Curio. What's really awesome is that I am still alive and I was able to clear someone else last night. Boy... those dictators are a few planks short of a cross.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-27-2009, 23:14
I investigated Gaius Scribonius Curio.

The results came back that he was doing no actions on that night and that he was a Senator of a certain faction.



How may mafia oes i ake o o a ki? Yo ar o ob aware of his acio as igh?

Cultured Drizzt fan
05-27-2009, 23:24
Yeah investigations don't clear you in this game, unless you have some ability you aren't telling anyone... I am tempted to think both you and GSC are mafia. :inquisitive:

Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2009, 23:29
Yeah investigations don't clear you in this game, unless you have some ability you aren't telling anyone... I am tempted to think both you and GSC are mafia. :inquisitive:

:wall:

THEN LYNCH ME. Then you'll know I'm telling the truth, and all the people I've cleared, will be.............


Cleared.

Cultured Drizzt fan
05-27-2009, 23:34
well, I am dead so..... and I never said to lynch you, just tell us how you are clearing these people. role would be nice.

Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2009, 23:42
yeah deleted it. I sent it to Sasaki so he should have it.

To help him out, mine is the one with Varro on it. But criminey, he can't post it. Jimminy Jillickers.

I guess you'll just have to kill me to be sure.

Beskar
05-27-2009, 23:44
How many Mafia does it take to do a kill? You are not obviously aware of his actions at night?

:whip:

Sasaki Kojiro
05-27-2009, 23:46
:wall:

THEN LYNCH ME. Then you'll know I'm telling the truth, and all the people I've cleared, will be.............


Cleared.

you can be inactive at night and still be mafia. You know what GSC did last night too.


I guess you'll just have to kill me to be sure.


I's fy ha yo compai abo beig yiche offe a ye whe ever ayo isagres wih yo i he sighes yo offer yorsef p for ych.

Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2009, 23:49
you can be inactive at night and still be mafia. You know what GSC did last night too.

:shrug:

Just offering my opinion and what my investigation revealed. I'm just one vote and since we have no way to be sure, it's no big deal to me if he dies. We can feed him to the lions.

:idea:

That sounds awesome! If I get lynched, make sure that's how I die.

Beskar
05-27-2009, 23:52
Lynch: Sasaki (Also known as :mad: )

If he is already dead, lynch his ghost for good measure.

Iskander 3.1
05-28-2009, 00:15
From TC's write-up:

Both groups carried pugii, but this night the odds were much different. Far from being even, the defenders were outnumbered two to one. The two leaders of the defenders glanced around hesitantly, suddenly unsure of themselves. The attacking group, realizing they for once had a significant advantage, charged directly into battle. A fierce melee began and the numerous attackers quickly gained the upper hand. However, one of the defending groups re-organized themselves and laid into their foes with a mighty surge. The attackers were thrown into disorder and their morale quickly broke. A few shouted in panic and then the rest broke up and disappeared into the dark streets. The defenders, visibly tired and with several wounded men, limped away.

Sasaki, did you use the exact same group for your test on "everyone?"

Jolt
05-28-2009, 00:15
bleh, with no clear suspects, I'd rather jump on the bandwagon to lynch the most inactive around us. He is doing very little to help us anyhow.

Vote: atheotes

TheFlax
05-28-2009, 00:58
Vote: atheotes

Also, I'm pretty certain ATPG is innocent. He has the clientela power, which gives him one investigation. What he said about GCS is the same thing he told me right after his investigation and I have seen his role.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
05-28-2009, 01:18
:laugh4:

I did nothing last night because despite suggestions to various people noone would have me. The night SplitPersonality claims I backed out of defending Chaotix I was in fact the only one to continue with it. I was the one who warned Chaotix about the impending attack. I have proof, which shall be forthcoming...


You send your servants out to keep watch over Chaotix. They arrived back early, reporting that the group of men who were supposed to bring the weapons never arrived. Your men warned Chaotix of the impending attack, but were unable to do anything else.

(Protection Failed)

Aside from one other night since my involvement in the game, when I was working with ATPG, which he can confirm if and when he wants to, I have been unable to organise anything, due to the differences in time zones.

Sasaki did contact me with regards to the everyone test, but I was unable to participate due to my lack of awareness of what goes on at 2-3 in the morning.

I've no vote for now, but I shall be back...

Sasaki Kojiro
05-28-2009, 01:24
I did nothing last night

What's your special ability GSC?

Gaius Scribonius Curio
05-28-2009, 01:40
Manumission, but it has not been used, as I would be willing to prove if consensus is reached by the Senate on a suitable target.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-28-2009, 01:42
Manumission, but it has not been used, as I would be willing to prove if consensus is reached by the Senate on a suitable target.

Fair enough. I was under the impression that each power was had by only one person of each faction.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
05-28-2009, 01:45
Due to private contact had with a number of senators I believe that there are a limited number of abilities that non-extremists can command. I may of course be mistaken.

Splitpersonality
05-28-2009, 01:47
ALRIGHT, SO YOU DID NOT BACK OUT?

I WAS JUST SUSPISCIOUS OF THE FACT (whoa... caps lock, leaving it because i'm too lazy to type) that you appeared in two groups behind the scenes, and spoke of killing chaotix...

Chaotix
05-28-2009, 02:10
Alright... as I do not feel like reading this wall of posts, I will just give my own opinion on the matter.

I know that YLC was not mafia, as closely to fact as is possible for these games. He did have guards, which is why I sought him out in the first place, and he was very clear that he wouldn't be playing on the side of any mafia group, even though I left the opportunity open. (Basically, I said I'd follow his lead, no matter where it took me, so long as I had protection.)

I know that splitpersonality is not mafia, because I've seen his role pm. I also know that he was one of the vig group with Sasaki attacking me while he was supposed to be protecting me, but given my own admitted role I cannot say that I blame him for the first try. Hopefully now I've proved my intentions to most.

Further, I came back with results that LittleGrizzly did have guards around him last night when I blocked him- this means he is most likely our power role.

I cannot say any of these same things about Curio, which means that he is the most suspicious to me. For now, I

Vote: Gaius Scribonius Curio.

Csargo
05-28-2009, 05:26
Vote:atheotes

Gaius Scribonius Curio
05-28-2009, 08:12
ALRIGHT, SO YOU DID NOT BACK OUT?

I WAS JUST SUSPISCIOUS OF THE FACT (whoa... caps lock, leaving it because i'm too lazy to type) that you appeared in two groups behind the scenes, and spoke of killing chaotix...
Question: When did I speak of killing Chaotix?

Answer: Never, you're getting me confused with someone else which would be understandable given that you have never spoken to me directly...

OOC: Thursdays to Saturdays are difficult for me to find time to be online due to work commitments among other things but I'll attempt to find time tomorrow to comment further on any queries, theories or suspicions that anyone may have with regards to my good self.

Vote:Atheotes

Mostly self preservation as I seem to be the only other target and I won't be back online prior to the end of the phase, but partly because AFAIK he's said nothing constructive since I joined the game...

Khazaar
05-28-2009, 10:56
Most discussion revolves around claims that cannot be checked properly since many abilities are similar. Other arguments have a lot to do with wine, so I´ll empty the cup, even if it tastes bitter...

Vote: GSC

Ignoramus
05-28-2009, 11:19
Vote: Atheotes

Although I'm suspicious of a few others as well.

Cultured Drizzt fan
05-28-2009, 11:24
I still say Curio is mafia..... Its just to coincidental. all his RP'ing is simply there to hide his true evil!!!!!! Atheotes is a lurker, he can go at any time. if Curio doesnt go now he probably never will. I have to say that the senate is controlled by the Populares right now, and I don't like the direction they are going.... (never trust a Populare yeah I said it, you all don't have the good of the republic in your hearts... well most of you anyway, some of you are fine.)

Andres
05-28-2009, 11:52
In almost every game I played in, Curio got lynched for the wrong reasons. Doing research and analysing posts seems pretty normal behaviour to me. I think Curio is a bad lynch.

split gives me more bad vibes. Don't know what the case against atheotes is, he seems WoG bait to me. Guess it's based on inside information.

TinCow
05-28-2009, 12:02
Most discussion revolves around claims that cannot be checked properly since many abilities are similar. Other arguments have a lot to do with wine, so I´ll empty the cup, even if it tastes bitter...

GSC


FYI, this is not a valid vote.

AggonyDuck
05-28-2009, 12:37
I'm going to keep voting against Ichigo until he convinces me otherwise. We just can't afford to have him lurk his way through this game.


Vote: Ichigo

Splitpersonality
05-28-2009, 15:39
I've never spoken to you directly, but i'm sure i've seen of your name in a vig group, quote of a quote and whatever. My argument is pretty much baseless at this point anyway.

Andres, might I ask why I give off these bad vibes?

Iskander 3.1
05-28-2009, 16:09
Vote: Atheotes

atheotes
05-28-2009, 16:22
wow...nice bandwagon you got going here Sasaki...
twice you asked me if i would participate and i said yes... but you never sent me any instructions.
third time you sent me instructions and i participated. and you are calling for my lynch? :dizzy2:
can anyone atleast tell me what the case against me is? :inquisitive:
I am dead now... i guess i had it coming since i did not contribute anything. :shrug:
There are so many people who have voted for me without asking a qn...and some of them are sure to be the mafia. think about it.

johnhughthom
05-28-2009, 16:27
I was also curious what the case against Atheotes is, unless it's simply his lurking I can't see any reason for so many votes. I'm pretty sure he did participate in last nights action, the two people who may have backed out don't seem to have been mentioned by you at all Sasaki.:inquisitive:

johnhughthom
05-28-2009, 17:43
Vote:Ichigo.

I was suspicious of him before but I keep forgetting about him as he is lurking so effectively. Thanks for reminding me AggonyDuck.

Csargo
05-28-2009, 18:16
I'm going to keep voting against Ichigo until he convinces me otherwise. We just can't afford to have him lurk his way through this game.


Vote: Ichigo

What if I told you atheotes is working with Pompey. Would that change your mind?

TinCow
05-28-2009, 19:30
Voting concluded. Write-up commencing, though it will be slow due to continuing issues with stupid amounts of work.

TinCow
05-28-2009, 20:19
“Though silence is not necessarily an admission, it is not a denial, either.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

https://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4699/almatademaaudienceatagr.jpg

The Senators sat in bunched groups, whispering to one another, most afraid to speak up. Eventually someone stood and read a letter written by the late Sasaki Kojiro. The letter was written in nearly indecipherable gibberish, indicating that Sasaki would likely have died of a brain disease relatively soon, had a blade not gotten the job done more quickly. However, some Senators concluded that the letter constituted evidence against atheotes and soon a great many votes were cast bearing his name.

A small group of Senators scoffed at the lack of evidence in this case and instead began accusing Gaius Scribonius Curio of being a traitor to the Republic. One of these was Chaotix who rose and presented a case before the Senate, stating that others who had been slandered had instead been acting nobly, but that the same could not be said of Gaius Scribonius Curio. “Ignorance!” shouted a voice from one of the benches. Chaotix was somewhat started by the comment and momentarily lost his train of though.

Taking advantage of the situation, an older man clad in a fine, white toga rose and began to lecture Chaotix about how his arguments made no sense. In fact, the man claimed, they were an insult to the entire art of rhetoric! Certainly, Chaotix had presented decent logos, but where was his pathos and ethos? Chaotix blushed, and tried to sit down, but the old man continued berating him anyway. After several minutes of criticism, Chaotix could take no more. He sprang to his feet, shouting, “what in the name of Jupiter Optimus Maximus do you want of me?!” The older man smiled and stated that he simply wished to educate Chaotix on the proper method of discourse. Chaotix could, the man added, prove that he had absorbed the lesson by changing his vote to atheotes, against whom the best arguments had clearly been laid. Chaotix, tired of the criticism, meekly complied.

The final tally showed that atheotes had been selected for proscription. He looked suspiciously around the Curia, eyeing those who had voted for him and shaking his head sadly at his fellow Optimates. “If this is what you have decided, then so be it. I fear that the unwillingness of so many of the Senate to speak up and defend the Republic will result in the final destruction of all that we hold dear as true Romans.” With that, he walked calmly out into the forum, where the crowd had gathered to hear to proscription proclaimed from the Rostra. They sprang upon atheotes while he was still descending the stairs and he was soon engulfed in a sea of clubs and knives.

As the plebians who had made the kill went off to assess their new property, the Senators returned for their homes to await yet another night of uncertainty.

atheotes: 8 (Caius, Jolt, TheFlax, Ichigo, GSC, Ignoramus, Iskander 3.1, Chaotix)
GSC: 3 (spL1tp3r50naL1ty, Greyblades, Khazaar)
Ichigo: 2 (AggonyDuck, johnhughthom)

Not Voting: 9 (Beefy187, LittleGrizzly, everyone, Shinseikhaan, Marshal Murat, Captain Blackadder, atheotes, Tratorix, ATPG) :whip:

Alive (21):
Beefy187
Greyblades
LittleGrizzly
everyone
johnhughthom
AggonyDuck
Shinseikhaan
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Chaotix
Khazaar
Ichigo
Jolt
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Marshal Murat
Iskander 3.1
Captain Blackadder
Tratorix
Askthepizzaguy
Ignoramus
TheFlax
Caius

Killed (10):
White_eyes:D
mini
Beskar
Yaropolk
pevergreen
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
Andres
woad&fangs
Sasaki Kojiro

Proscripted (6):
navarro951
Tiberius of the Drake
Cronos Impera
Cultured Drizzt fan
YLC
atheotes

WoG/Suicide (0):

It is now Night VIII. This night phase will end on Friday, May 29th at 3:30pm EST.

AggonyDuck
05-28-2009, 20:19
What if I told you atheotes is working with Pompey. Would that change your mind?

If you were to back it up with some sort of arguments, then yes.

Cultured Drizzt fan
05-28-2009, 20:29
there you go Optimates, the true face of the Populares, they donbt care about the republic, instead they make accusations that go wildly off the mark and whittle us down bit by bit. now WE are the dying breed, men who were truly loyal to the republic.

Greyblades
05-28-2009, 20:56
Now see, a real Optimate in this circumstance would be, of course, annoyed. But I highly doubt that we/they would actually be stupid enough to try to start a civil war of the entire town because of it.
FOS: Drizzt

Cultured Drizzt fan
05-28-2009, 21:00
I am already dead. I have no reason to try and play nice with what I believe to be a corrupt half of the senate any longer.

Greyblades
05-28-2009, 21:02
...Still If you were alive that would be very scummy, :sweatdrop:

Cultured Drizzt fan
05-28-2009, 21:04
point taken. But I have to say once again that I believe that Caeser has already gotten to most of the populare's already.

AggonyDuck
05-28-2009, 22:14
point taken. But I have to say once again that I believe that Caeser has already gotten to most of the populare's already.

I highly doubt that as most of the senate clearly wants to stop both tyrants.

Cultured Drizzt fan
05-28-2009, 22:16
yeah in the open.... maybe I am just paranoid....

GeneralHankerchief
05-28-2009, 22:17
I highly doubt that as most of the senate clearly wants to stop both tyrants.

So they say in public. Imagine if they said "No no, I'm rooting for the Mafia." They'd be lynched faster than Crassus falling into a trap.

seireikhaan
05-28-2009, 22:19
I'm rooting for the mafia.

Jolt
05-28-2009, 22:25
Agh, double post.

Jolt
05-28-2009, 22:26
bleh, another townie dead. So far all that we have managed to lynch were townies (Or so it seems). At least atheotes wasn't participating so we have removed one unhelpful inactive person (It's better than nothing). I'm starting to believe that Cicero isn't really pro-town.


I'm rooting for the mafia.

Well, that might save you from a Mafia kill. :P I'm not sure how you'll fare in the Senate tomorrow though. <__<

Sasaki Kojiro
05-29-2009, 01:17
Night orders--from the grave!!!

The group that protected 'everyone" last night--you guys protect "everyone" tonight
The group that attacked 'everyone" last night--you guys attack "everyone" tonight
The group that protected 'shinseikhaan" last night--you guys protect "shinseikhaan" tonight
The group that attacked 'shinesikhaan" last night--you guys attack "shinseikhaan" tonight


Easy, eh? The more people we can tie up in groups the harder it is for the mafia.

The group that attacked "everyone" is down to three--you guys add curio to your group when you send the orders, and try and get in touch with him in time.

The group that attacked "shinseikhaan' is down to three--you guys add TheFlax to your group when you send the orders, and try and get in touch with him in time.


Sasaki

Askthepizzaguy
05-29-2009, 01:38
can my group message me. I deleted all my PMs.

LittleGrizzly
05-29-2009, 02:33
Are we maybe down to the point where we could start accounting for peoples actions or do we intend to leave it off a few rounds.... ?

Actually i think i meant you... the mysterious you out there with all the information...

ULC
05-29-2009, 02:46
Just a suggestion - don't lynch Chaotix quite yet, and force GSC to use his ability, or we vote him instead of Split tomorrow.

Jolt, why would Cicero be antitown? Be quick, and stay on topic.

Jolt
05-29-2009, 03:45
Well, because apparently he has been vote switching for people who at least in the write-ups do not appear guilty in any way.

ULC
05-29-2009, 04:02
Hmph, then we must win sooner then expected. If the mafia can control the lynch, then if we reach a certain voting level, we have essentially lost the game and it becomes their game.

It maybe that Cato and Cicero are not a part of the mafia conventionally - on the same team, but they don't know each other. Lets hope they knock them off during the night then by accident and do the town a favor.

Beefy187
05-29-2009, 06:49
Hmph, then we must win sooner then expected. If the mafia can control the lynch, then if we reach a certain voting level, we have essentially lost the game and it becomes their game.

It maybe that Cato and Cicero are not a part of the mafia conventionally - on the same team, but they don't know each other. Lets hope they knock them off during the night then by accident and do the town a favor.

Not necessary. Town can still vigilante kill.

I just thought of something. Its WIFOM, but could all the players who got vote shifted be innocent?

Surely a loyal Caesarian or Pomepeiian won't change their vote.
Mafia won't change their gang members vote because it attracts too much attention.

Askthepizzaguy
05-29-2009, 07:27
Can my group message me? I deleted all my PMs and I... don't remember who everyone in my group was.

Andres
05-29-2009, 08:16
I think Cultured Drizzt fan was mafia and is now trying to confuse us.

GeneralHankerchief
05-29-2009, 11:28
I highly doubt that Cato, if alive, is mafia-aligned. IIRC, he committed suicide at the prospect of the Republic dying.

ULC
05-29-2009, 11:41
I highly doubt that Cato, if alive, is mafia-aligned. IIRC, he committed suicide at the prospect of the Republic dying.

If alive - we haven't seen him switch a vote in almost two days. It's possible we lynched him.

LittleGrizzly
05-29-2009, 13:36
I can account for Chaotix's actions over the last two nights...

AggonyDuck
05-29-2009, 15:54
I can account for Chaotix's actions over the last two nights...

So what did he do then?

LittleGrizzly
05-29-2009, 16:08
Umm, well i guess thats up to chaotix to reveal... all i can say is his last two nights are accounted for...

Yaropolk
05-29-2009, 16:12
Chaotix already did a reveal on the last page. I can account for his behavior on the first 2 nights. He isn't mafia.

TinCow
05-29-2009, 20:34
Night 8 is concluded. Write-up commencing.

TinCow
05-29-2009, 20:56
“Nothing is more unreliable than the populace, nothing more obscure than human intentions, nothing more deceptive than the whole electoral system.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

https://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6996/johnwilliamwaterhouseth.jpg

Gaius Scribonius Curio loved his pigeons. He had first built an aviary during his time as provincial governor, and ever since then he had never considered a villa complete until it included several varieties of birds. Pigeons, pheasants, quails, doves, all made attractive pets and excellent food. What other animal was as versatile? Livestock were too messy to keep inside a home and dogs and cats tasted awful.

So it was that Gaius Scribonius Curio was to be found feeding his birds when a messenger entered. “Sir, there is a delegation from Gaul here to see you.” Gaul? What could those brutes want? Hopefully it would be the short-haired Gauls, as they stank less than their long-haired cousins.

The men who entered looked nothing like Gauls at all. Indeed, they looked like ordinary Romans, albeit a bit scruffy and rough around the edges. Why, they actually looked more like legionaries than Gauls! “Who are you!” demanded Gaius Scribonius Curio. The men looked at each other and laughed, before throwing back their cloaks to reveal gladii. Gaius Scribonius Curio’s face went white with horror. He rose to flee, but slipped on the grain he had scattered on the floor for his birds. As he flailed away, the men closed in with blades drawn.




Askthepizzaguy was tired. The Senate sessions continued to drag on, yet no end to the crisis appeared to be in sight. The daily sessions were now simple executions, with any attempts at proper governance and debate long since past. He was unsure whether it was safer to risk death at the hands of assassins in the night or at the hands of politicians in the day. It was all too emotionally exhausting, and all men had their limits.

Askthepizzaguy ate an early cena, bade his servants good night, and then retired to his bed chamber. He changed out of his toga into a long sleeping shirt and poured himself a glass of water from a fresh ewer left by his servants. Thirsty, he downed the glass quickly turned to make his way to bed. Halfway across the room, the walls began to spin. He stumbled and barely made it to the stuffed mattress before falling prone on his back. Askthepizzaguy put his hands up in front of his face, but they were little more than a blur. What was happening to him?

Through the blur, he saw what appeared to be a few figures approaching him, leaning over the bed to inspect him. His servants; they must have heard him stumble and come to help. They were good people, and would surely fetch the apothecary. All would be fine soon. The last thought that went through Askthepizzaguy’s head before he blacked out was to wonder why everyone appeared to be carrying gladii.




Shinseikhaan was not a happy man. His villa was a mess and it would take him ages to clean it up again. So much damage, and done by fellow Romans, no less! The gall of those men. Surely even during times such as these, civilized men would respect the sanctity of the home. Bah, soon the entire city would be behaving like long-haired Gauls!

With most of his servants dead and recovering from wounds, Shinseikhaan found himself in the unusual position of being required to do manual labor. As night fell, he was still wandering from place to place, picking up pieces of broken pottery and glass. As he passed by the broken front gate, he was suddenly hit with a massive blow to the head. He reeled and almost fell over. For a moment, he thought he had been blinded, but reaching up to his face he found a sticky mush plastered over his eyes. He wiped it away with his hand and nearly retched when he saw that it was the remains of a rotten fish.

Several heavy *splats* sounded nearby, and he looked up quickly to see a group of men outside his house. They were armed with baskets of spoiled food and were pelting his house with them repeatedly. Two men stepped forward and started blowing raspberries at him and making rude gestures. One of them even appeared to flatulate in Shinseikhaan’s general direction. Shinseikhaan ran outside his door, barely dodging a moldy piece of bread, and began yelling at the men. “You! Get off this area here in front of my dwelling place!” The men simply laughed at him and threw more food.

“That’s it!” cried Shinseikhaan, “I’m going to go get my ballista! If you’re still here when I get back, you’ll be sorry!” With that, he turned on his heels and marched back into the house. The men looked at each other hesitantly, threw one last volley of detritus, then fled into the streets of Rome.




The Senators filed sullenly into the Curia. They were now half of the original number who had first convened for this emergency session, and yet they seemed no closer now to resolving the crisis than they were when they began. A few men stared at the newly empty seats, one on the Populares side and one on the Optimates side, but most were busy reading the note nailed to the doors:


BLARGH!
Yargh! Grunt! Oomph! Hundreds of years ago, proto-Etruscans talked this way. We know this because we have the best education system this side of the Po! Of course, if you elect Pompey, he'll bankrupt our education and jeopardize our children's future, and then we'll go the way of the Macedonians or Carthaginians. Pompey only promises cheap whores for the wealthy. If you side with me, I'll promise quality education and affordable, accessible whores!

You've seen me kiss babies. Pompey only eats babies.

Alive (19):
Beefy187
Greyblades
LittleGrizzly
everyone
johnhughthom
AggonyDuck
Shinseikhaan
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Chaotix
Khazaar
Ichigo
Jolt
Marshal Murat
Iskander 3.1
Captain Blackadder
Tratorix
Ignoramus
TheFlax
Caius

Killed (12):
White_eyes:D
mini
Beskar
Yaropolk
pevergreen
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
Andres
woad&fangs
Sasaki Kojiro
Askthepizzaguy
Gaius Scribonius Curio

Proscripted (6):
navarro951
Tiberius of the Drake
Cronos Impera
Cultured Drizzt fan
YLC
atheotes

WoG/Suicide (0):

It is now Day VIII. You may begin voting. This day phase will end on Saturday, May 30th at 4:00pm EST.

Askthepizzaguy
05-29-2009, 20:59
Excellent. I served my purpose well.

For the Republic!!!

Sasaki Kojiro
05-29-2009, 21:12
Chaotix, did your role come with a cover pm?

I see we have two kills again. Remarkably this coincides with people not being tied up in groups...

Andres
05-29-2009, 21:21
Chaotix, did your role come with a cover pm?

I see we have two kills again. Remarkably this coincides with people not being tied up in groups...

How did you obtain such information?

Askthepizzaguy
05-29-2009, 21:48
we had many difficulties getting a group together. I think part of the reason was because atheotes was included in our group, and he has the unfortunate quality of being dead.

Hahahhahahaha.... sucks to be him. Oh, wait... :sweatdrop:

:skull:

Splitpersonality
05-29-2009, 22:00
Damnit, I forgot to get my orders in last night... I got home way too late and, ugh. Now I look guilty, since I was obviously not "tied up in a group".

Thought I'd reveal that before my group does, maybe to show that it was an honest accident.

atheotes
05-29-2009, 22:12
we had many difficulties getting a group together. I think part of the reason was because atheotes was included in our group, and he has the unfortunate quality of being dead.

Hahahhahahaha.... sucks to be him. Oh, wait... :sweatdrop:

:skull:

:laugh4: I had to PM back saying i am already dead to the guys who voted for me to be lynched :wall:

Khazaar
05-29-2009, 22:18
Did Pompeii die, or is he too bored to write us a message? And what was that rotten food incident about? Is that how you threaten people now?

Chaotix
05-29-2009, 22:32
Chaotix, did your role come with a cover pm?

I see we have two kills again. Remarkably this coincides with people not being tied up in groups...

Nope, I have no cover pm to show you, but I cannot say the same for the mafia, as I am not technically one of them. They could have cover roles, or they could have investigation defense, which is one thing that I do have.

As for actions, I was blocking LittleGrizzly again- he can vouch for this, I suppose. He had guards again and there were still two kills, so I suppose that means he's really a Consul.

Iskander 3.1
05-29-2009, 22:38
Split was supposed to be part of a protection group that I organized but in his defense his message from me wasn't marked as read until it was too late to do anything.

Splitpersonality
05-29-2009, 22:58
Again, I apologize... I checked the message in school this morning, way after the date.

Andres
05-29-2009, 23:54
Nope, I have no cover pm to show you, but I cannot say the same for the mafia, as I am not technically one of them. They could have cover roles, or they could have investigation defense, which is one thing that I do have.

As for actions, I was blocking LittleGrizzly again- he can vouch for this, I suppose. He had guards again and there were still two kills, so I suppose that means he's really a Consul.

What do you mean with "I am not technically one of them"?

:inquisitive:

TheFlax
05-30-2009, 00:03
What do you mean with "I am not technically one of them"?

:inquisitive:

Chaotix is some sort of quintuple agent, who's side is he really on?

He alluded to so many things, I'm simply not sure anymore. :shrug:

Splitpersonality
05-30-2009, 00:11
He's saying he has no cover role, but he's not sure if the mafia has them because he's not mafia :|

Andres
05-30-2009, 00:22
Chaotix is some sort of quintuple agent, who's side is he really on?

He alluded to so many things, I'm simply not sure anymore. :shrug:

He claims role blocker. Rules don't say anything about a role blocker... Could be one of the secret roles, but there's more:




I was blocking LittleGrizzly again- he can vouch for this, I suppose. He had guards again and there were still two kills, so I suppose that means he's really a Consul.


If he blocked LittleGrizzly then how could LittleGrizzly have ordered his lictors to protect him? This doesn't add up. If LittleGrizzly truly would have been blocked, then his protection would have failed.

LittleGrizzly, do the results of your night action mention anything unusual that hints towards the blocking of your night action?

Has Chaotix ever been ordered to block a townie from the townie groups, just to check his claim? Otherwise, he has the perfect fake role for being active at night: solo character doesn't need to be in a group...

Splitpersonality
05-30-2009, 01:18
Being blocked may allow him to see the abilities of whomever he is blocking, and possibly to accept it into his own. Sort of like how the woman at the beginning "blocked" whomever they blocked (my memory is hazy), maybe he blocks through a personal relation with the target.

This would explain why other actions would continue in someone's place, someone being blocked that is.

Beefy187
05-30-2009, 01:48
Quote:
Originally Posted by A message from Gaius Julius Caesar to the Senate
BLARGH!
Yargh! Grunt! Oomph! Hundreds of years ago, proto-Etruscans talked this way. We know this because we have the best education system this side of the Po! Of course, if you elect Pompey, he'll bankrupt our education and jeopardize our children's future, and then we'll go the way of the Macedonians or Carthaginians. Pompey only promises cheap whores for the wealthy. If you side with me, I'll promise quality education and affordable, accessible whores!

You've seen me kiss babies. Pompey only eats babies.

Who ever Caesar is... He has sense of humour

And good knowledge of Roman history to crack out a Roman joke

LittleGrizzly
05-30-2009, 02:11
I am told by my night results that I am well gaurded but they let the woman in...

My theory is my orders don't get blocked... as im simply telling my troops to stand gaurd... but if i tried to participate in some group action the block would be effective...

Thats the impression i get from my night results...

Chaotix
05-30-2009, 05:10
He claims role blocker. Rules don't say anything about a role blocker... Could be one of the secret roles, but there's more:



If he blocked LittleGrizzly then how could LittleGrizzly have ordered his lictors to protect him? This doesn't add up. If LittleGrizzly truly would have been blocked, then his protection would have failed.

LittleGrizzly, do the results of your night action mention anything unusual that hints towards the blocking of your night action?

Has Chaotix ever been ordered to block a townie from the townie groups, just to check his claim? Otherwise, he has the perfect fake role for being active at night: solo character doesn't need to be in a group...

My blocking ability also has the added effect that if a player has guards assigned to him (and only in that way, I've discovered) I am able to share that player's guards for the night. From experience blocking other Praetors or Consuls, I've learned that if they try to send their guards to someone else, I do wind up blocking that. It's kind of like a double edged sword.

If you want, I can block a player who's using a group action tonight- just make sure that the group has only enough people so that if I block one person then it fails, if you want proof. Also, you may want to make sure it won't result in someone getting killed.

That, and I'd like to be protected myself if I'm going to do that, if possible. Mentioning that I'm going to block someone without guards is kind of like a death sentence if either mafia family wants to kill me, and my goal is to survive.

Iskander 3.1
05-30-2009, 05:58
I'm going to be away for the next 24 hours or so, therefore I shall Vote: Abstain

seireikhaan
05-30-2009, 06:10
Vote: Iskander

Chaotix
05-30-2009, 06:39
?

Vote: Abstain as well.

Askthepizzaguy
05-30-2009, 06:40
we already located a number of seemingly trustworthy people via Sasaki's plan.

Why are we not voting to lynch one of the uncleared people?

TheFlax
05-30-2009, 06:51
we already located a number of seemingly trustworthy people via Sasaki's plan.

Why are we not voting to lynch one of the uncleared people?

Who are these people?

Sasaki Kojiro
05-30-2009, 07:14
we already located a number of seemingly trustworthy people via Sasaki's plan.

Why are we not voting to lynch one of the uncleared people?

No we haven't. We haven't located any trustworthy people.

This bears repeating:

The mafia have cover pm's, someone having an ability (like investigation) that another townie has is no proof of innocence.

The mafia only need one of them to kill on a night, not three, leaving the others free to participate in townie groups.


The last thing we want to do is to reveal who was active in townie groups--that hands the mafia a short list of pro town roles.


One thing that should be revealed though: one person didn't show up for the protection of "everyone". I can't post who was in that group, but one of the members should.

I believe atheotes was the one who skipped out on the khaan kill.

Ignoramus
05-30-2009, 09:23
The members in the protection group were myself, Tratorix, and Captain Blackadder. I protected everyone when one of the members did not show up, and I also did so last night, when no attack was made on him and no one else showed up.

Vote: Tratorix

Captain Blackadder
05-30-2009, 12:44
The members in the protection group were myself, Tratorix, and Captain Blackadder. I protected everyone when one of the members did not show up, and I also did so last night, when no attack was made on him and no one else showed up.

Vote: Tratorix

In the intrest of honesty I did not protect Everyone last night I was in my villa having a party with some advocate collogues of mine. I will not allow another Senator to take the fall when it is my fault. It shall never happen again believe me

ooc I just forgot, sorry about that.

everyone
05-30-2009, 13:11
I'm confused, what is the purpose of one group of people attempting to both kill and protect me? I don't understand what results it could give.

Captain Blackadder
05-30-2009, 13:40
I'm confused, what is the purpose of one group of people attempting to both kill and protect me? I don't understand what results it could give.

It was designed so that we could have as many people doing something a night so that no one could be out killing townies.

johnhughthom
05-30-2009, 13:40
I'm confused, what is the purpose of one group of people attempting to both kill and protect me? I don't understand what results it could give.

It ties both parties up for the night so they can't do evil, mafia type things.

Oh yeah, Vote: Ichigo As I mentioned before, I was suspicous of him earlier in the game but his awesome lurking skills mean I keep forgetting about him. It's more the fact I keep forgetting him that has me voting for him now, I honestly can't remember why I was suspicous...

Ignoramus
05-30-2009, 13:41
It allows people to know whether they're doing mafia kills or not, because if one person pulls out, the attack or protection fails, thus indicating that someone in their group might well be mafia.

Captain Blackadder: Ok, that's alright.

Unvote: Tratorix
Vote: Chaotix

Marshal Murat
05-30-2009, 14:44
Iggy - Bold the unvote.

Vote:Ichigo

TheFlax
05-30-2009, 15:15
I don't have any leads, but I know Chaotix is doing a fine job of confusing us. He comes up about once every round, yet almost no one seems to know what to make of him or what to do with him.

Vote: Chaotix

Greyblades
05-30-2009, 15:25
Vote: Abstain

Captain Blackadder
05-30-2009, 16:40
Vote Chatiox

Just gut instinct really

Caius
05-30-2009, 17:31
Just gut instinct really
And that doesn't help us a lot...

Sasaki Kojiro
05-30-2009, 17:39
In the intrest of honesty I did not protect Everyone last night I was in my villa having a party with some advocate collogues of mine. I will not allow another Senator to take the fall when it is my fault. It shall never happen again believe me

ooc I just forgot, sorry about that.

Did you protect him two nights ago?

Jolt
05-30-2009, 18:16
Well, I'll keep voting for lurkers since they continue being unhelpful as our numbers dwindle.

Vote: Tratorix

Chaotix
05-30-2009, 18:21
Please. If you're going to vote for me because you're confused, tell me what confuses you (in the thread or via pm, I don't care.) and I will lift the so-called veil of confusion. There are some who know exactly who I am (actually most of them are dead now- YLC, Sasaki, ATPG, maybe a few others), there are others who have ideas about what I might be, but everyone who has bothered to read the thread knows that I am a role with a blocking ability, whose only goal is to survive the game, and who can share the guards of someone who I block.

I don't need people voting for me because of "gut instinct", because if I die, then I lose, and I'd rather not lose because I revealed to the town rather than keeping a low profile and staying hidden.

Also- Ichigo is a terrible vote, too. I know what he is, and it would be a bad idea to lynch him.

Finally, I suggest that Sasaki give us the list of townies who was supposed to do night actions last night, and we'll vote someone who wasn't doing any action, instead of just voting based on "instinct" or "suspicious lurking". While they are valid reasons sometimes, in this game there are townies who need to remain hidden from the mafia as much as the mafia must remain hidden from the town.

Chaotix
05-30-2009, 18:31
While I'm here, I'm going to

Unvote: Abstain, Vote: Tratorix

for the sole purpose of keeping me alive just in case the round ends unexpectedly.

AggonyDuck
05-30-2009, 18:34
Please. If you're going to vote for me because you're confused, tell me what confuses you (in the thread or via pm, I don't care.) and I will lift the so-called veil of confusion. There are some who know exactly who I am (actually most of them are dead now- YLC, Sasaki, ATPG, maybe a few others), there are others who have ideas about what I might be, but everyone who has bothered to read the thread knows that I am a role with a blocking ability, whose only goal is to survive the game, and who can share the guards of someone who I block.

I don't need people voting for me because of "gut instinct", because if I die, then I lose, and I'd rather not lose because I revealed to the town rather than keeping a low profile and staying hidden.

Also- Ichigo is a terrible vote, too. I know what he is, and it would be a bad idea to lynch him.

Finally, I suggest that Sasaki give us the list of townies who was supposed to do night actions last night, and we'll vote someone who wasn't doing any action, instead of just voting based on "instinct" or "suspicious lurking". While they are valid reasons sometimes, in this game there are townies who need to remain hidden from the mafia as much as the mafia must remain hidden from the town.

To be honest, I'd actually favour starting to share information between us. As it is a lot of you are just insinuating that some are bad votes due to some roles or night activities, yet this is never made public and we're just left with having to trust your word. I seriously think we're reaching the stage where should start to consider open sharing of information as I believe the town would gain more of advantage from it than the tyrants.

Chaotix
05-30-2009, 18:48
Ok. I don't want to reveal who Ichigo is to protect him, but I suppose that's useless if he's lynched anyway. Ichigo is, I will say, as important to be kept alive as GH was. Any more than that he can reveal himself, but if you can't figure that giant non-reveal role hint, I will be dissappointed.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-30-2009, 19:07
To be honest, I'd actually favour starting to share information between us. As it is a lot of you are just insinuating that some are bad votes due to some roles or night activities, yet this is never made public and we're just left with having to trust your word. I seriously think we're reaching the stage where should start to consider open sharing of information as I believe the town would gain more of advantage from it than the tyrants.

No, we don't need to share information. It's a bad idea and just leads to pro town roles being outed.

Instead we should focus on lynching suspicious people.

Caius
05-30-2009, 19:14
I just don't know who to vote, some vote without a proper reason. I would need more than one vote to point at them. Anyway,


Roman history to crack out a Roman joke
Well, there is a Roman joke that I couldn't understand.

TinCow
05-30-2009, 20:57
Only 43 posts for the entire day, and about a 50% no vote rate. This is not acceptable. I am therefore doubling this day phase. It will continue for another 24 hours, until Sunday, May 31st at 4:00 pm EST.
:thumbsdown:

Tally as of this post:

Chaotix: 3 (Ignoramus, TheFlax, Captain Blackadder)
Ichigo: 2 (johnhughthom, Marshal Murat)
Tratorix: 2 (Jolt, Chaotix)
Iskander: 1 ('khaan)

Abstain: 2 (Iskander, Greyblades)

Splitpersonality
05-30-2009, 21:01
Vote:Ichigo

I think chaotix is more useful to us than we give him credit for.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-30-2009, 21:14
So, it has been posted that Tratorix, Ignoramus, and Captain Blackadder were part of the group that was supposed to protect "Everyone" and one of them didn't show.

I also feel like the group that was supposed to protect shinseikhaan didn't show and he was instead protected by his one-shot self defense like YLC had.

Captain blackadder has claimed his special ability privately (so no need for it to be said in public), and ignoramus publicly. Tratorix, what is yours?



Tonight I think the best move is to put together protection groups for Ichigo, given what chaotix said. Several of them.

Tratorix
05-30-2009, 22:35
So, it has been posted that Tratorix, Ignoramus, and Captain Blackadder were part of the group that was supposed to protect "Everyone" and one of them didn't show.

I also feel like the group that was supposed to protect shinseikhaan didn't show and he was instead protected by his one-shot self defense like YLC had.

Captain blackadder has claimed his special ability privately (so no need for it to be said in public), and ignoramus publicly. Tratorix, what is yours?



I enjoy better protection in the form of more skilled guards. This also means that protections won't necessarily fail if we don't have the right amount of people.

For instance on Night 7:


You send your servants out to keep watch over everyone’s villa, but the men promised by one of your conspirators failed to appear. A large group of pugii-armed men with four leaders approached, clearly intending harm. Your men were outnumbered two-to-one, and as a result there was no negotiating. The attackers charged and your men were almost overwhelmed. Fortunately, your servants put up a strong fight and your men were able to repel the attack despite being heavily outnumbered. Your actions have saved a life.

(Note: Though one of your conspirators did not show up, the protection succeeded because of the skill of your men.)

That means last night was the second night Captain Blackadder failed to show for the protection. So, Vote: Captain Blackadder.

Splitpersonality
05-30-2009, 22:36
Unvote:Ichigo, Vote:Tratorix


Tally:
Chaotix: 3 (Ignoramus, TheFlax, Captain Blackadder)
Ichigo: 2 (johnhughthom, Marshal Murat)
Tratorix: 2 (Jolt, Chaotix, Split)
Iskander: 1 ('khaan)
Captain Blackadder: 1 (Tratorix)
Abstain: 2 (Iskander, Greyblades)

Sasaki Kojiro
05-30-2009, 23:51
On the basis of what tratorix posted, I would say captain blackadder is a better choice if you're going to vote someone for missing the protection group.

Khaan, did your special ability get used up 2 nights ago? Because if so that group skipped out entirely, and they would need to be looked at closely. I don't see any description of 3 protection groups in the writeup.

Marshal Murat
05-31-2009, 00:00
Unvote:Ichigo Vote:Tratorix

Sasaki Kojiro
05-31-2009, 01:00
Why did you two vote for tratorix? We have 24 hours remember. Don't help the mafia, explain your votes!

ULC
05-31-2009, 01:03
Actually, yes, Khaan ability was used up two nights ago. When I was attacked, the results of my ability had almost the exact same wording.

Thus, Khaan's ability has been used up.

-And remember, Vote for Captain Blackadder!

Sasaki Kojiro
05-31-2009, 01:05
Actually, yes, Khaan ability was used up two nights ago. When I was attacked, the results of my ability had almost the exact same wording.

Thus, Khaan's ability has been used up.


So a certain group of people never showed up to protect. Highly suspect. Let's see if they reveal themselves...

Caius
05-31-2009, 01:06
Why did you two vote for tratorix? We have 24 hours remember. Don't help the mafia, explain your votes!
Which is the case against Tratorix?

Chaotix
05-31-2009, 01:34
Yep, the case against Tratorix is not much at all. As I said, I shamelessly voted for him to keep myself alive, but seeing as the round's been extended, I've no reason to anymore.

Unvote: Tratorix

Instead, I'll go with Sasaki's advice- although it would be useful to know who in particular wasn't assigned to any night action at all, Sasaki.

Vote: Blackadder

Splitpersonality
05-31-2009, 01:43
Unvote, Vote:Abstain

Greyblades
05-31-2009, 01:49
Split why is your vote flailing around more than Boris Johnson's hair on a windy day?

Marshal Murat
05-31-2009, 02:16
Unvote: Tratorix
Vote:Blackadder

I frankly don't know who I'm really voting for, and I'll fall in Sasaki who knows more about this than I do.

Splitpersonality
05-31-2009, 02:16
I made a vote, rethought the vote on ichigo, then changed it to an abstain.

It's not that bad.

Greyblades
05-31-2009, 02:48
Maybe, but the joke was worth it.:beam:

Splitpersonality
05-31-2009, 02:58
I will admit I chuckled.

Congrats on being able to use it :P

Captain Blackadder
05-31-2009, 03:14
I just don't know who to vote, some vote without a proper reason. I would need more than one vote to point at them. Anyway,


Well, there is a Roman joke that I couldn't understand.

I think it was the talking about the etrustcans who are a tribe that were around in the early days of rome you have to know roman history to know them.

Also last night was the first time that I missed an action here are the night results for night 5 and 6

Night 5

You send your servants out to keep watch over everyone’s villa. They remained vigilant throughout the night and were prepared to defend his life. At one point, a large group of pugii-armed men with three leaders approached, clearly intending harm. Your men negotiated with them, and since the attackers did not have sufficient numbers to overcome you, they agreed to disperse into the night.

Night 6

You send your servants out to keep watch over everyone’s villa. They remained vigilant throughout the night and were prepared to defend his life. At one point, a large group of pugii-armed men with two leaders approached, clearly intending harm. Your men negotiated with them, and since you outnumbered the attackers, they agreed to disperse into the night.

So it seems that someone else may have missed the action

Sasaki Kojiro
05-31-2009, 03:17
although it would be useful to know who in particular wasn't assigned to any night action at all, Sasaki.



I don't think it would. The protown roles weren't assigned any action, while the mafia almost certainly have been. So it's lose-lose.

For tonight, since chaotix has revealed that ichigo is an important role on the town side, I believe we should protect him.

Since there was some trouble getting things organized last night, we'll start the organization early this time.

The group that was set to protect khaan: tonight, protect Ichigo
The group that was set to attack "everyone": tonight, protect Ichigo
The group that was set to attack khaan: tonight, combine with the group that was supposed to be protecting "everyone" (names have been posted in thread) and protect Ichigo. You can have more than 3 people in a protection group.

Given the protection target has the role that he does, we can confirm how many people show up.

We can't necessarily rely on people to read the thread, so if you are in one of your groups you need to pm all your companions and make sure they are in on it, and make sure that they confirm they are sending the orders.


Remember--it is very important that as little information about who is taking what action leaks out as possible. Don't post who is in your group in the thread unless necessary.

Although I still want an explanation from the leader of the group that didn't show up to protect khaan.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-31-2009, 03:20
Also last night was the first time that I missed an action here are the night results for night 5 and 6

Night 5


Night 6


So it seems that someone else may have missed the action

So you missed night 7?

Caius
05-31-2009, 03:30
It doesn't like forged PM's.

Tratorix
05-31-2009, 04:13
The group that was set to protect khaan: tonight, protect Ichigo
The group that was set to attack "everyone": tonight, protect Ichigo
The group that was set to attack khaan: tonight, combine with the group that was supposed to be protecting "everyone" (names have been posted in thread) and protect Ichigo. You can have more than 3 people in a protection group.

Why didn't you just say "everybody protect Ichigo"?

Splitpersonality
05-31-2009, 04:19
Because these specific groups may not know of any people in the other groups.

Captain Blackadder
05-31-2009, 04:22
So I did I am sorry but to Saskai I admit it I was getting nervous I didn't quote reveal everything my abilty only works if I am not doing anything that night so i do admit I got nervous and thought someone would attack me those nights so I staid in my villa.

Tratorix
05-31-2009, 04:30
Because these specific groups may not know of any people in the other groups.

You ever realize something right after you make a post asking about it? :laugh4:

Someone in the attack khaan group is gonna have to pm me, cause I don't know who any of you are.

Splitpersonality
05-31-2009, 04:36
I know two people in one group, one of them will not make it in time to send in orders...

I really need some help here if I'm to successfully defend... PM me with help if you want to help.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-31-2009, 04:46
I know two people in one group, one of them will not make it in time to send in orders...

I really need some help here if I'm to successfully defend... PM me with help if you want to help.

How do you know they won't make it back in time?

Splitpersonality
05-31-2009, 04:56
He said it to me, in a PM.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-31-2009, 04:58
Does he know about the deadline extension though?

Splitpersonality
05-31-2009, 05:01
He told me after the extension, he'll be out for about another 24 hours.

Perhaps he'll make it back, I hope it so.

If not I know one of my own, and we will attempt to come into contact with another group...

Sasaki Kojiro
05-31-2009, 05:09
He told me after the extension, he'll be out for about another 24 hours.

Perhaps he'll make it back, I hope it so.

If not I know one of my own, and we will attempt to come into contact with another group...

You pick up ignoramus into your group. Tratorix can go to the other.

Of course we still don't know who is going to be lynched so it's all just assumptions now.

I'd ask you not to ask around about who is in what group, just as a precaution.

Splitpersonality
05-31-2009, 05:11
Right, I trust that you've got (or had) things held down to stop infiltration.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-31-2009, 05:17
Right, I trust that you've got (or had) things held down to stop infiltration.

Eh, infiltrations not the problem, it's information control that's important.

Splitpersonality
05-31-2009, 05:23
I suppose...

Iskander 3.1
05-31-2009, 05:55
Alright, I'm back. Big question: if we're all protecting Ichigo, won't the mafia know not to attack him?

Sasaki Kojiro
05-31-2009, 05:58
Alright, I'm back. Big question: if we're all protecting Ichigo, won't the mafia know not to attack him?

Yes, but he'll be safe.

Beefy187
05-31-2009, 09:25
Vote: Abstain

Sorry I had a busy weekend so I don't really know whats happening.

Gimme till tommorow so I can catch up :bow:

LittleGrizzly
05-31-2009, 14:51
Apologies for absence yesterday....

Ill admit im slightly lost in all the information going round...

All i can tell you is Chaotix actions over the last two nights are accounted for...

Then Chaotix who i trust is saying Ichigo is a bad lynch...

And then sasaki saying that blackadder is the better lynch...

But then blackadder says he was doing it to keep himself alive... which is understandable... my gaurds have been protecting me...

In then end this leads me to Vote Blackadder to level it up..

AggonyDuck
05-31-2009, 15:23
Vote: Tratorix

TinCow
05-31-2009, 21:00
Day 8 is over, write-up commencing.

TinCow
05-31-2009, 21:48
“It is foolish to tear one's hair in grief, as though sorrow would be made less by baldness.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

https://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4179/vincenzocamuccinitheide.jpg

The day seemed to drag on longer than usual, but as was typical by this point, there was little agreement to be found. As the day finally drew to a close, the Senate remained undecided on whether Captain Blackadder or Chaotix should be proscripted. Which was the greatest threat to Rome? Would the removal of one over the other better protect the Republic? These were impossible questions to answer, but the Senate was at a deadlock and nothing else could be decided until they were.

At one point, and older man clad in a fine, white toga rose and began addressing johnhughthom. He showered johnhughthom with praise, proclaiming his many virtues and reciting the many accomplishments the man had achieved during his lifetime. Above all, the older man praised johnhughthom for having the wisdom to vote for Iskander 3.1. At this, johnhughthom grew confused and furrowed his brow, “But, I never…” he began, but the older man cut him off in mid-sentence. “Ah, but we all know you were going to vote for him, weren’t you? Such a fine decision that vote was! Yes indeed! Clearly the most intelligent thing that’s been said in the Senate today!” johnhughthom blushed, mumbling “Well, yes, now that I think of it perhaps that was my intention…” He promptly changed his vote to Iskander 3.1.

When the older man sat down, the rest of the Senate glared at him, wondering why he had wasted their time with an issue that still left the fates of Captain Blackadder and Chaotix in the air. As the hour grew late, an Augur rushed into the Senate. “17 geese were seen flying west over the Capitoline! Soon after, a horse fell over stone dead right in the middle of the forum! Plus, my throat itches!” The Senators looked at one another, confused. After a few moments of silence, the Augur grew annoyed. “Do you know nothing of the omens! These signs clearly indicate that both Captain Blackadder and Chaotix must be enemies of the state!” The Senators shrugged their shoulders and agreed. At least it avoided further debate.

Captain Blackadder’s name was announced from the rostra first. The crowded cheered, knowing that his fabulous wealth would soon be theirs for the taking. Captain Blackadder himself went white as a sheet. He begged his fellow Populares to do something about what was clearly a dreadful mistake. Several of the poorer Optimates saw their chance for wealth in his delay, and sprang from the benches with knives in their hands. They descended upon Captain Blackadder with ferocity, stabbing him repeatedly until his wailing finally ceased. The Optimates then began bickering amongst themselves as to who had struck the killing blow.

When Chaotix’s name was announced, two men rose, one each from the Populares side and one from the Optimates side. They heavily protested this move, saying it would benefit the Republic far more to allow Chaotix to live. The rest of the Senate yelled and hissed, proclaiming their distain for the men who had obviously been bribed by Chaotix. Embarrassed, the men looked at each other and shrugged. There was little more they could do, and further protestation would obviously risk their own necks.




Chaotix was relaxing in a villa, sipping a goblet of wine when a messenger arrived with news of the Senate’s decision. The wine goblet went hurtling across the room to smash against a marble column. “Damned Romans! Do they not recognize an ally when they see one?! I will not have my assets confiscated by these uncivilized brutes! If they will not aid me, I shall find other ways. Perhaps the King of Parthia would be interested in my proposal…” Choatix nodded to a nearby servant, and soon the household was thrown into movement. As various jewels and gifts were packed up into sacks and chests, Chaotix was hoisted up on a litter and carried out of the city. By the time the mob arrived, there was nothing left but an empty villa.

Captain Blackadder: 3 (Chaotix, Marshal Murat, LittleGrizzly)
Chaotix: 3 (Ignoramus, TheFlax, Captain Blackadder)

Tratorix: 2 (Jolt, AggonyDuck)
Iskander: 2 ('khaan, johnhughthom)

Abstain: 4 (Iskander, Greyblades, split, Beefy187)
Not Voting: 5 (everyone, Khazaar, Ichigo, Tratorix, Caius)

Alive (17):
Beefy187
Greyblades
LittleGrizzly
everyone
johnhughthom
AggonyDuck
Shinseikhaan
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Khazaar
Ichigo
Jolt
Marshal Murat
Iskander 3.1
Tratorix
Ignoramus
TheFlax
Caius

Killed (12):
White_eyes:D
mini
Beskar
Yaropolk
pevergreen
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
Andres
woad&fangs
Sasaki Kojiro
Askthepizzaguy
Gaius Scribonius Curio

Proscripted (8):
navarro951
Tiberius of the Drake
Cronos Impera
Cultured Drizzt fan
YLC
atheotes
Chaotix
Captain Blackadder

WoG/Suicide (0):


It is now Night IX. This night phase will end on Monday, June 1st at 5:00pm EST.

Chaotix
05-31-2009, 23:23
Bah. I hope you die, Cicero, and that your faction loses.

That's what I get for trying to help the town instead of conspire against them. I officially proclaim myself to be the dumbest neutral role there ever was.

EDIT: Not saying the role itself was dumb of course. Just that I played it stupidly, actually considering the fact that the town might not want to kill me off even after I'd all but proved my loyalty.

Captain Blackadder
06-01-2009, 00:46
No Cicero why didn't you protect me I am your protege Marcus Rufus. Oh well good luck town

LittleGrizzly
06-01-2009, 19:54
Gah! silly town why are we lynching useful roles... I didn't realise the tie would kill them both... i was most sure of chaotix's innocence though...

Don't forget to get your orders in guys!

Iskander 3.1
06-01-2009, 20:41
Interesting voteswitch choice, considering that it didn't affect the outcome in any way.

TinCow
06-01-2009, 22:01
Night 9 over. Write-up commencing.

TinCow
06-01-2009, 22:18
“The wise man will live as long as he ought, not as long as he can.”
- Lucius Annaeus Seneca

https://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6278/mariusatminturnae.jpg

Ichigo was relaxing in the main audience chamber of his villa. It doubled as an entertainment space, and a pair of Greek actors were putting on a play for his benefit. Greek tragedy was incredibly tedious with its moralizing and wailing about opportunities missed and errors made. However, Greek comedy was often quite clever. A good glass of wine and a few lewd Athenian jokes made any night pleasant.

Shortly after the performance ended, a servant approached. “Master, there are some men here to see you.” Ichigo raised an eyebrow. The hour was certainly late, but who was he to refuse an audience with a potential voter? He nodded to the servant, and a few minutes later a small group of men entered. They appeared to be led by a single man, who approached and addressed Ichigo. “Good sir, I am pleased to report that I have arrived to defend your life with these few men behind me.” He beamed and bowed, impressed with the generosity of his own offer.

Ichigo grinned. “You, protect me?” He slapped his thigh and laughed heartily. “Look at you, you have nothing to wield but pugii… and there are so few of you my own bastards would overwhelm you with sheer numbers! Go back to your homes and sleep off the night, I assure you, I am perfectly safe where I am.” The men looked taken aback and turned about dejectedly to be escorted out of the villa.

On came another performance, this time a nude dancer from Illyria. Only a few minutes into the act, the servant approached again. “Apologies, master, but there is another group of men here to see you.” Ichigo was growing annoyed with these interruptions, but voters were voters and they should not be too put-off. The men were soon shown in. Like the first group, they were few in numbers and a single man spoke for them. “Great Ichigo, my companions and I are here to lay down our lives for you!”

Ichigo simply rolled his eyes. “You as well? Let me guess, you’ve brought Gallic poetry with you and you intend to read it at my enemies until their ears rupture and spill forth their wits!” The men looked confused, “No, sir, we have these pugii and…” Ichigo cut them off with a dismissive wave. “Begone! A man such as me has no need for pathetic, disorganized weaklings such as yourselves! My life is in no danger.” Then men looked annoyed, but they shrugged their shoulders and were escorted out of the villa.

Not five minutes after this interruption had ended, the servant returned again, just as the nude dancer was getting to the more… personal performance. Now Ichigo was actively angry. “WHAT IS IT NOW?!” he bellowed. The servant shrank visibly at the outburst, “Well, sir… there are some men here to see you.”

“Let me guess,” snapped Ichigo, “a small group of men, of which only one has a tongue, they’re armed with pugii and they think themselves great heroes of the Republic and have volunteered to protect me?” The servant looked puzzled, “Well, they are actually appear to be led by two men, but yes they…”

Ichigo sighed heavily. “Fine, fine. Let them in. These useless men can stay awake all night long if they like, as long as they leave me alone!” The servant turned and ran off to let the latest group of men in and instruct them to stay out of Ichigo’s way. “And you can tell the same to any other buffoons who show up to save me from the evils of the night!” With that, he turned his attentions back to the dancer, but she had fallen asleep against a column and was drooling on herself. The attraction gone, Ichigo sighed heavily and got up. At least he still had his fine decorations and could enjoy a pleasant walk to admire them before he turned in for the evening.

As he rounded a corner into a side courtyard, he saw several men blocking his path. Recognizing the scene from several nights before, he rolled his eyes. “Can you people not come up with something original for once?! Let me guess, you’ve all got gladii and you’re here to kill me.” The men looked at each other, puzzled, but after a moment they shrugged and indeed did pull out their gladii.

“Ah, very good,” sighed Ichigo, “you’re so threatening. I am absolutely terrified. Come on then, let’s get this over with, shall we? I’m tired and would like to go to bed.” The men obliged, charging forward with blades raised. Ichigo sighed, it was all so tedious. Any moment now, men would appear to fight them off and save his life. It might as well have been written by that hack, Aeschylus. Yes, his saviors would burst forth from right and left about… now.

Right on key, the group of men with two leaders appeared from their hiding places in nearby corridors. They charged out to block the path to Ichigo, waiving their blades menacingly. However, one of them glanced over to his right and did a double-take. Tapping the man next to him on the shoulder, he pointed towards another corridor. There stood a second group of gladii-wielders, looking on with amusement. The two men leading Ichigo’s saviors exchanged hesitant words, looking first at the two groups of gladii-wielders, then at Ichigo, then at the blades in their hands. After some mumbled discussion, they dropped their knives and ran.

Ichigo squinted. That wasn’t right at all. They were supposed to vanquish these annoying interlopers, not run off! Ah, well, at least it was just those overeager voters who had abandoned them. Perhaps higher taxes would teach them to follow through with their plans better. In the meantime, surely a better group of protectors would appear and dispose of these ruffians.

Ichigo looked hesitantly to right and left. No one else was in sight. Surely they were just late and would appear… now! He looked around again, seeing nothing. A single bead of sweat ran down Ichigo’s face as the gladii-armed men finally reached him, their blades thrusting forward to disembowel him. The last through that ran through his head was a niggling suspicion that he had forgotten to do something important.




As the Senate convened for the morning’s session, there was great commotion regarding the empty seat of the dead Optimates. For once, few of the Senators paid much attention to the note that was nailed to the Curia doors:



Friends,
I am a man of the people, just like you I enjoy pop culture and that classic cartoon family, the Simpsii. Our situation here has reminded me of one the great episodes, "The Telltale Head". I am sure you all remember the conversation between father and son:

Bartus: I was wondering. How important is it to be populares?
Homus: I'm glad you asked, son. Being populares is the most important thing
in the world!

Wishing to be a good populares, Bartus promptly ran out and cut the head off the statue of the town founder. Of course who could forget that the town founder was actually a pirate who had changed his name, hoping his past would be forgotten. Remind you of anyone? Yes, of course. Pompey. He claims to have defeated the pirates, we all know they were under his employ. He hides out under a false name, committing all sorts of cruel and evil deeds, while hoping history will paint him in a kinder light. The Simpsii can show you the way good people, if you only open your eyes. I am not the enemy, the optimates are.

You know what you need to do, good populares. Be like Bartus. Bring me the head of Pompey the Great.

Now a message from our sponsors,

"There once was a man named Ichigo
Who thought he had quite a big ego
But Senators are corrupt
And it's easy to disrupt
The plans of Sasaki Kojiro"

Alive (16):
Beefy187
Greyblades
LittleGrizzly
everyone
johnhughthom
AggonyDuck
Shinseikhaan
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Khazaar
Jolt
Marshal Murat
Iskander 3.1
Tratorix
Ignoramus
TheFlax
Caius

Killed (13):
White_eyes:D
mini
Beskar
Yaropolk
pevergreen
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
Andres
woad&fangs
Sasaki Kojiro
Askthepizzaguy
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Ichigo

Proscripted (8):
navarro951
Tiberius of the Drake
Cronos Impera
Cultured Drizzt fan
YLC
Atheotes
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix

WoG/Suicide (0):

It is now Day IX. You may begin voting. This day phase will end on Tuesday, June 2nd at 6:30pm EST. (Day extended a slight bit, as it would otherwise end during my evening commute, when I am obviously unavailable to end a phase.)

Greyblades
06-01-2009, 22:33
*sigh* Great. I wasted my one use investigation on a dead man.

seireikhaan
06-01-2009, 22:36
Vote: Beefy

Methinks you've been skating through this too easily.

Sasaki Kojiro
06-01-2009, 22:50
I say beefy should be lynched.

And last night's performance was quite pathetic...

Everyone who has one, send in your night result from your protection group to LittleGrizzly.

LittleGrizzly
06-01-2009, 23:01
Gah! What happened ?

I should have sent my guards to protect Ichigo.... I figured he would be portected though... damn!

I have been convinced of the benefits of a republic... i am no longer an optimate... the preservation of the republic is now my only goal!

I await the night results...

Edit: I want to hear what beefy has to say for himself...

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-01-2009, 23:03
Mafia can break through protection if they have two members attack the same person. take from that what you will Optimates.

Sasaki Kojiro
06-01-2009, 23:03
*sigh* Great. I wasted my one use investigation on a dead man.

When did you investigate Ichigo?

LittleGrizzly
06-01-2009, 23:37
Mafia can break through protection if they have two members attack the same person.

Well, against a group of senators that would make sense... some trained guards on the other hand...

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-01-2009, 23:43
how do you think I killed GH, or was that not good enough trained guards for you?
The Pompeiin's are all dead, there is no reason to hide it any more. you all should be on the look out for a populare, if you truly want to save the republic. (I would rather the town win then my arche rival.)

Sasaki Kojiro
06-01-2009, 23:55
how do you think I killed GH, or was that not good enough trained guards for you?
The Pompeiin's are all dead, there is no reason to hide it any more. you all should be on the look out for a populare, if you truly want to save the republic. (I would rather the town win then my arche rival.)

So, you just read through the thread and counted up how many of each faction had died of out boredom eh? :laugh4:



Beefy should be lynched.

And beefy or anyone who's worked with beefy, or knows anything about beefy, why don't you give us a summary of beefy's night actions so far?

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-01-2009, 23:57
yeah.... surprised I wasn't questioned on that more. just dont let Caeser win guys, his cryptic messages are starting to annoy me.

Beefy187
06-02-2009, 01:08
So, you just read through the thread and counted up how many of each faction had died of out boredom eh? :laugh4:



Beefy should be lynched.

And beefy or anyone who's worked with beefy, or knows anything about beefy, why don't you give us a summary of beefy's night actions so far?

This is all from my memory

Night one: We protected Captain Blackadder
Night two: Sasaki
Night three: Sasaki
Night four: Joined the vigilante kill group but the attack failed
Night five: I believe woads died around here. And we didn't trust our third men
Night six: Same
Night seven: Was going to protect GSC, but Split didn't turn up
Night eight: Was going to get back to business but failed to find our third men.

So yea.. I've been slack

I admit I havn't payed much attention in the last few rounds. But I plan to do that

Sasaki Kojiro
06-02-2009, 01:10
Hmm, and greyblades, how about your night actions?

Chaotix
06-02-2009, 01:15
:laugh4:

I'm unsure how exactly the attack worked, but all Caesar has accomplished is the killing of his own Praetor.

I hope everyone dies and nobody wins in the end. :grin:

Beefy187
06-02-2009, 01:20
:laugh4:

I'm unsure how exactly the attack worked, but all Caesar has accomplished is the killing of his own Praetor.

I hope everyone dies and nobody wins in the end. :grin:

Bad:smash:

You anarchist you :smash:

Tratorix
06-02-2009, 03:02
Fantastic job on that protection, people. One group completely fails to show and half of mine doesn't.

Vote: everyone because I don't know why he hasn't been wogged yet.

Oh also I'll be gone for the next two days, so I won't be able to reply or send in night orders.

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 03:05
Ok so apart from tratorix and Beefy, is anyone else going to be sharing thier results... I don't know who is supposed to be sending me the results of thier night action... but so far its all quiet...

Results and excuses in double quick time!

If you please...

Ignoramus
06-02-2009, 03:17
I'm voting for Tratorix. He seems to be the consistent theme in the two failed protection groups I was in. And voting for everyone seems to be a poor excuse for a vote.

Tratorix
06-02-2009, 03:19
I'm voting for Tratorix. He seems to be the consistent theme in the two failed protection groups I was in. And voting for everyone seems to be a poor excuse for a vote.

I could say the same thing about you. And I know its a poor vote, but I can't think of any better ones right now.

Beefy187
06-02-2009, 03:23
Speaking of protection.

We do need a third men.

Who doesn't have a group?

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 03:24
Ignoramus... Tratorix gave me his result showing he was active in his participation...

Have you got such proof of your innocence... if so send it to me immeadiatlely otherwise i shall consider it proof of your guilt..

Edit: by the looks it the groups are failing somewhat... if people trust me to you can pm me telling me the members of your group and i can try and create grouops without people missing in them...

Or is the failure because of group members not participating ? If so people must be informed of thier 'inactivity'

Ignoramus
06-02-2009, 03:26
Sent.

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 03:31
Thank you for your cooperation!

I will give a little time for people to get thier pm's to me but im going to start looking suspiciously at those who don't have some kind of night result to send me from TinCow...

I have to admit as things stand I am leaning towards voting for beefy...

Beefy187
06-02-2009, 03:46
Thank you for your cooperation!

I will give a little time for people to get thier pm's to me but im going to start looking suspiciously at those who don't have some kind of night result to send me from TinCow...

I have to admit as things stand I am leaning towards voting for beefy...

I'm discussing matters with my partner, if we should contact you or not.

Though, his not online atm.

Ignoramus
06-02-2009, 03:50
Or are you taking time to forge a Night Action PM?

For the moment, I believe Tratorix has cleared himself, and will thus change my vote.

Unvote: Tratorix
Vote: Beefy187

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 03:59
Sasaki has asked that people send me thier night results, sasaki is no fool, im sure he wouldn't do this unless he was absolutely certain of my innocence... that and the fact i have been seperately confirmed as an innocent by Chaotix who was a role blocker and was with me when kills were taking place...

So im afraid i really must insist you cooperate... people who do not cooperate will be seen as enemies of the republic...

And on a last note... there is no need to fear me being an information leak, all and any information given to me will be shared with absolutely no one...

I will use it to rate suspects and if needed i will use the information as a reason people should support the suspect i have chosen, but information regarding people who aren't suspects will not be shared, if i die these people can pass on the information themselves so there is no risk of me sharing anything...

Especially seen as i trust no one...

Beefy187
06-02-2009, 04:09
Or are you taking time to forge a Night Action PM?

For the moment, I believe Tratorix has cleared himself, and will thus change my vote.

Unvote: Tratorix
Vote: Beefy187

Did you want my night action pm :laugh4:

Am I allowed to post those? If thats the case, I'll go find it from my downloaded pms.

Tratorix
06-02-2009, 04:21
Did you want my night action pm :laugh4:

Am I allowed to post those? If thats the case, I'll go find it from my downloaded pms.

You're stalling.

Beefy187
06-02-2009, 04:40
You're stalling.

Stall for what?
I can't forge, coz dodgey grammer will immediately give it away.
Also I don't want to do anything against the rule.

Finally, I don't like whats happening around here. Seems like there isn't much townies left whos trying to lynch the mafia instead of going for group victory.

Sasaki Kojiro
06-02-2009, 04:48
You can forge, because you will have seen similar pm's.

Beefy, what happened the night you were supposed to protect shinseikhaan? How does it happen that none of you showed? How come you and your partner happened into a group so early?

Ignoramus, I believe we lynched blackadder because he admitted to not showing up night 8, and didn't post a result pm for night 7.

LittleGrizzly is the center of the townie group now.

Tratorix
06-02-2009, 04:49
Stall for what?
I can't forge, coz dodgey grammer will immediately give it away.
Also I don't want to do anything against the rule.

Finally, I don't like whats happening around here. Seems like there isn't much townies left whos trying to lynch the mafia instead of going for group victory.

Exactly, you can't forge a pm, so you're avoiding the subject. Maybe stalling wasn't the right word. You probably have a point with that last part though. We're coming into the endgame and the possibility of joining up with the mafia carries less risk now.

Beefy187
06-02-2009, 04:57
You can forge, because you will have seen similar pm's.

Beefy, what happened the night you were supposed to protect shinseikhaan? How does it happen that none of you showed? How come you and your partner happened into a group so early?

Ignoramus, I believe we lynched blackadder because he admitted to not showing up night 8, and didn't post a result pm for night 7.

LittleGrizzly is the center of the townie group now.

Maybe I could Forge. I get your point.

Saturday, Sunday I was out most of the day, school then exam. So I can't say I was focusing on this game along with hosting Fillet Royale and Noble Son which I finished.

iirc my partner contacted me first after the success in the Council of Villains and our third men contacted me looking for someone to work with. It was working fairly well as we got lots of pming happening, but since the death of our third men Woads, our activity decreased.

Also I realised I've been revealing my partners identity everywhere.. So I decided not to, which made it harder to do something. Because now we do, contact someone, ask for my partners comfirmation to reveal his identity, contact the other with his identity, contact my partner for comfirmation.

So by the time I get that process done, night normally finishes.

I am willing to reveal the night result pms soon as the host gives me the thumbs up that I can do it.

Sasaki Kojiro
06-02-2009, 05:05
Send the pm's to LG.

Your under fire a bit here beefy, and as they say, the best defense is a good offense. Greyblades is another top suspect of mine. Have you had any interactions with him?

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 05:13
The only restrictions on pm's are for the dead... you are free to send me night results beefy, it is within rules... if you wish to prove your innocence you will cooperate!

For the moment you can leave out your partner and they can reveal themselves to me or you can reveal them after they come on... but for the moment its just you in the spotlight, not your partner...

Beefy187
06-02-2009, 05:28
Send the pm's to LG.

Your under fire a bit here beefy, and as they say, the best defense is a good offense. Greyblades is another top suspect of mine. Have you had any interactions with him?

Yes I did once. He was looking for someone to work with, but at that stage, we still had Woads.

Sending those pms now LG.

Andres
06-02-2009, 11:33
how do you think I killed GH, or was that not good enough trained guards for you?
The Pompeiin's are all dead, there is no reason to hide it any more. you all should be on the look out for a populare, if you truly want to save the republic. (I would rather the town win then my arche rival.)

Why should we pay attention to a dead mafioso?

TinCow
06-02-2009, 11:48
I am willing to reveal the night result pms soon as the host gives me the thumbs up that I can do it.

As per the rules, you can post or PM anything you like (barring screenshots, etc.) as long as you are alive.

Beefy187
06-02-2009, 11:49
As per the rules, you can post or PM anything you like (barring screenshots, etc.) as long as you are alive.

Cheers :2thumbsup:

Well, I sent a copy over to Grizzly. Will post it public if thats necessary.

Greyblades
06-02-2009, 12:17
Hmm, and greyblades, how about your night actions?

I had a one use investigation ability which I used up last night on ichigo who ended up killed the same night.


You send a servant off with a message to your client inside Ichigo’s villa. Several hours later, the servant returns with a wax tablet inscribed by the client himself. He reports that Ichigo is firm in his support of the Optimates faction. The tablet indicates that Ichigo himself did not appear to be active in any way last night. Your client signs off with a message indicating that his debt to you is now repayed. You can expect no further aid from that source.

In the morning, you hear disturbing news that Ichigo was killed during the night.

Beefy187
06-02-2009, 13:47
I had a one use investigation ability which I used up last night on ichigo who ended up killed the same night.

Who with?

Also, I don't mind being unvoted..
Only lynch me if you are really really out of option please

Greyblades
06-02-2009, 13:52
What do you mean "with who", I said its an ability; a one use investigation without the need of a partner.

Beefy187
06-02-2009, 14:35
What do you mean "with who", I said its an ability; a one use investigation without the need of a partner.

neat :2thumbsup:

Sorry, I wasn't paying much attention...

Greyblades
06-02-2009, 15:22
Yeah I thought it was neat too. Pity the guy I used it on was an innocent townie who ended up murderend.

AggonyDuck
06-02-2009, 15:32
Yeah I thought it was neat too. Pity the guy I used it on was an innocent townie who ended up murderend.

So this would happen to be the 'clientela' ability?

AggonyDuck
06-02-2009, 15:38
You send a servant off with a message to your client inside GeneralHankerchief’s villa. Several hours later, the servant returns with a wax tablet inscribed by the client himself. He reports that GeneralHankerchief is firm in his support of the Populares faction and adds a note about unusual activity around the villa last night. Your client signs off with a message indicating that his debt to you is now repayed. You can expect no further aid from that source.


You send a servant off with a message to your client inside Ichigo’s villa. Several hours later, the servant returns with a wax tablet inscribed by the client himself. He reports that Ichigo is firm in his support of the Optimates faction. The tablet indicates that Ichigo himself did not appear to be active in any way last night. Your client signs off with a message indicating that his debt to you is now repayed. You can expect no further aid from that source.

In the morning, you hear disturbing news that Ichigo was killed during the night.

The first one is my investigation on GH from Night 1, where he apparently had his lictors protect him. In your investigation of Ichigo, it appears that he did not protect himself nor did he protect anyone else either. Overall the contrast is very strange as I would had expected Ichigo to be active in some way tonight.

Greyblades
06-02-2009, 16:19
So this would happen to be the 'clientela' ability?

Uh yeah. Seeing as I can't use it again I may aswell show it


Special Ability:
(1) Clientela: As a prominent Senator, you have spent a lifetime cultivating an expansive web of connections. All over Rome, men both high and low owe you great obligations. In this time of crisis, you have decided to call in one of your most valuable favors. One of your clients is well-placed inside the household of another Senator, and he will provide you with information. You may investigate alone once. The investigation will show the target's faction and whether the target was active, though not what they were doing.

Sasaki Kojiro
06-02-2009, 17:50
Vote Count:

Beefy 2 (khaan,ignoramus)
everyone 1 (tratorix)

:shame:

Well, beefy should be lynched, if you don't agree I would say tratorix is next most likely.

It's funny actually, by killing me the mafia gave up any chance of defending themselves against my arguments or forcing me to reveal information about the townie network...suffice it to say, I arrived at beefy and tratorix as my top two by a process of elimination based on the amount of information I had at my fingertips, and by some inconsistencies from the pm's I had.

I will offer them a little something they can defend against though.

Beefy is displaying the same mafia tell that several other known mafia have. The "oh sure I'd love to help!" coupled with a lack of real effort, since they are mainly concerned with convincing others of their innocence. He is also defending himself today in a very mafioso manner. So calm and helpful and earnest.

Tratorix, most of my evidence is not post able, so you'll have to trust my judgment on that.

What night actions did you take before I pm'd you to join a protection group tratorix?

Caius
06-02-2009, 20:13
Only lynch me if you are really really out of option please
Looks like there is not another option at the moment, there are a lot of people that doesnt are active at the moment. Id vote everyone, but it is useless, TC kill both senators and doesnt let us to untie the tie. So, unless therre is something else I wont cast a vote now.

Andres
06-02-2009, 20:54
The first one is my investigation on GH from Night 1, where he apparently had his lictors protect him. In your investigation of Ichigo, it appears that he did not protect himself nor did he protect anyone else either. Overall the contrast is very strange as I would had expected Ichigo to be active in some way tonight.

From the write-up:




Ichigo looked hesitantly to right and left. No one else was in sight. Surely they were just late and would appear… now! He looked around again, seeing nothing. A single bead of sweat ran down Ichigo’s face as the gladii-armed men finally reached him, their blades thrusting forward to disembowel him. The last through that ran through his head was a niggling suspicion that he had forgotten to do something important.


I think it's pretty obvious that Ichigo didn't send in his orders last night.

Iskander 3.1
06-02-2009, 21:09
Vote: Beefy

johnhughthom
06-02-2009, 21:31
Whoops almost forgot about this.

Vote:Beefy

Pretty much following Sasaki on this one.

Andres
06-02-2009, 21:39
He is also defending himself today in a very mafioso manner. So calm and helpful and earnest.



So, how should he defend himself then? Upset, unhelpful and lying? What does it take to satisfy you?

Sasaki Kojiro
06-02-2009, 21:40
Also, andres is coming to beefy's defense, which is just what I would expect if beefy were mafia.

:bounce:

Andres
06-02-2009, 21:47
Also, andres is coming to beefy's defense, which is just what I would expect if beefy were mafia.

:bounce:

Are you sure about the person who told you I am mafia? Because for once, my dearest Sasaki, I'm not mafia.

If I were, I would now be enjoying myself with spouting obfuscating nonsense instead of actively trying to help town.

Or are you perhaps working towards a mafia victory?

Sasaki Kojiro
06-02-2009, 21:57
I don't think you are mafia...but "how should he defend himself" is not the question. I'm not criticizing his playing style. I'm pointing out things that smell guilty to my gut. The path you propose leads to naught but sophistry.

johnhughthom
06-02-2009, 22:06
Come on guys, 5 votes out of 16 is pretty pathetic.

Greyblades
06-02-2009, 22:28
Vote: Beefy

Sasaki Kojiro
06-02-2009, 23:07
Hmm, I reread some things and I think Tratorix is a much better lynch.

The bandwagon on beefy went up much too easily in any case.

20 minutes to deadline :shame:

My fault for not rereading sooner. I got things mixed up. Beefy is probably innocent.

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 23:09
There seem to be a few good candidates for the lynch but none stand out more than Beefy for me... sorry you got to go

Vote Beefy

Edit: way to get me rethinking my case...

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 23:11
Hmm i am tempted to switch to tratorix, he was much more cooperative with my request for night results though... ill keep my vote on beefy for the moment...

Sasaki Kojiro
06-02-2009, 23:14
Hmm i am tempted to switch to tratorix, he was much more cooperative with my request for night results though... ill keep my vote on beefy for the moment...

I think beefy is innocent, mind pm'ing john and iskander and asking them to switch to tratorix?

14 minutes! Ack!

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 23:21
Ok if your sure...

Unvote Beefy
Vote Tratorix

seireikhaan
06-02-2009, 23:24
Unvote: Beefy

Vote: Tratorix

Sasaki Kojiro
06-02-2009, 23:27
Just a couple more!

johnhughthom
06-02-2009, 23:30
Unvote Beefy

Vote Tratorix

TinCow
06-02-2009, 23:30
Day 9 is over. Write-up commencing.

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 23:31
Phew! Talk about cutting it fine...

Sasaki Kojiro
06-02-2009, 23:33
Classic!

I'm sorry beefy, it looks like you're still going to get caught in the crossfire, my bad for not rereading earlier. I'd remembered something as being the opposite of what it really was :shame:

johnhughthom
06-02-2009, 23:35
Don't forget my vote got switched last time. Who knows what's going to happen, did we get enough votes changed?

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 23:36
By my count he made it, or was John's vote switch too late ?

Edit: i guess it does depend on vote switchers..

Iskander 3.1
06-02-2009, 23:39
Never mind, too late.

Sasaki Kojiro
06-02-2009, 23:39
It's tied 3-3. Just like yesterday.

Iskander 3.1
06-02-2009, 23:39
Crap! Ignore that last one.

TinCow
06-02-2009, 23:41
“I have so lost my manly spirit that I prefer to be tyrannized over in peace and quiet.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

https://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2727/guillaumeguillonlethier.jpg

The Senate was full of snoring men. Apparently most were getting little sleep at night due to paranoia or other less passive activates. Their fatigue was telling, and the debate was largely confined to a few particular individuals bickering amongst themselves. Eventually, a small consensus began to emerge that was focused on Beefy187. Suddenly, and at the last minute, several Senators spontaneously, and with little explanation, changed their votes to Tratorix. This resulted in yet another tied vote.

At this point an older man rose, looking disdainfully at the large number of snoring Senators around him. He smoothed the folds of his fine, white toga and began to address the merits of the arguments against Beefy187. His colorful language and excellent rhetorical style caught the attention of a few others, including Iskander 3.1. As the older man went on, he explained how the case against Beefy187 was weak, and that instead Tratorix was more worthy of the proscription. Isksander was so taken by his arguments that he immediately leaped to his feet, shouting “He’s right! Why didn’t I see that before?!” He immediately changed his vote to Tratorix.

With so few votes, no one even had to count in order to know who had been chosen for proscription. Tratorix’s face whitened in horror, and he rose from his seat in the Optimates section and fled out into the forum. At the first sight of him, the waiting mob cheered heartily. The regular proscription of so many wealthy men was making the plebians extremely pleased. Few opportunities for easy personal enrichment existed in Rome, and a lifetime’s wealth was excellent pay for a few seconds of state-sanctioned violence. Tratorix tried to escape the crowd, but there were too many of them. He was pulled down to the left of the Curia and quickly clubbed to death.

As the Senators filed quietly out into the city, everyone slipped on a paving stone that was wet with blood. He flew through the air, head-first, and landed with a smack in a large pile of horse manure. The blow instantly knocked him unconscious. A few of his fellow Populares saw the spectacle, but none wished to dirty their togas in the mess. Without aid, everyone soon suffocated, his nose and mouth clogged with dung. A few slaves looked on curiously, but after a while they lost interest and left. The corpse rotted for several days before a local merchant grew tired of the smell and tossed it into the Tiber.

Tratorix: 4 (LG, khaan, johnhughthom, Iskander)
Beefy187: 2 (Ignoramus, Greyblades)
everyone: 1 (Tratorix)

Not Voting: 9 (Beefy187, AggonyDuck, spL1tp3r50naL1ty, Khazaar, Jolt, Marshal Murat, TheFlax, Caius, everyone)

Alive (14):
Beefy187
Greyblades
LittleGrizzly
johnhughthom
AggonyDuck
Shinseikhaan
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Khazaar
Jolt
Marshal Murat
Iskander 3.1
Ignoramus
TheFlax
Caius

Killed (13):
White_eyes:D
mini
Beskar
Yaropolk
pevergreen
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
Andres
woad&fangs
Sasaki Kojiro
Askthepizzaguy
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Ichigo

Proscripted (9):
navarro951
Tiberius of the Drake
Cronos Impera
Cultured Drizzt fan
YLC
Atheotes
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Tratorix

WoG/Suicide (1):
everyone

Note: I have lost my patience for the lack of general participation in the discussions. From now on, anyone who misses TWO votes in a row will be WoGed unless they are also contributing to the public discussion. This will occur regardless of whether you are submitting night orders or are involved in discussions about the game outside the public forum.

It is now Night X. This night phase will end on Wednesday, June 3rd at 7:00pm EST.

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-02-2009, 23:44
fine, NOW there are no pompeiins left..... curse you all

atheotes
06-03-2009, 00:12
Dont you think it is unfair that Iskander's vote switch after the deadline was included :juggle2:

and funny thing is Iskander has edited his post and his last vote is on Beefy :laugh4:

Sasaki Kojiro
06-03-2009, 00:13
Hmm, I believe Beefy and his partner are definitely innocent.

Greyblades and splitpersonality are my top two suspects, trust me on this one. They should definitely be tied up in a group tonight.


(and to whoever killed me, I will give you the satisfaction of knowing that at this moment it pains me greatly not to be able to communicate in private)

TinCow
06-03-2009, 00:16
Dont you think it is unfair that Iskander's vote switch after the deadline was included :juggle2:

and funny thing is Iskander has edited his post and his last vote is on Beefy :laugh4:

Iskander's vote after the deadline was not counted. The vote switch indicated in the write-up was an entirely different thing.

LittleGrizzly
06-03-2009, 00:19
Atheotes, Iksanders vote switch was to late, its the vote switcher role that changed his vote not iksander himself...

I will contact greyblades and split and organise them to do .... something...

atheotes
06-03-2009, 00:42
Oh... its the vote switchers... sorry about that :embarassed:

Iskander 3.1
06-03-2009, 00:45
The vote switcher must have read my mind!

Sasaki Kojiro
06-03-2009, 01:07
I'd like to expand on the last point I made...


I have only respect for Pomepey for all the years he served our republic.
As for Caesar.. I can't exactly say I'm feeling good vibes from Caesar..

But I agree. This is a difficult time and all of us has to work together!!
Now just where is Cicero? I'm sure he has something to say..

Looks to me like the pompeiins are toast (cultured, atheotes, tratorix) and beefy is optimates faction evidently.

I would put good money on splitpersonality being mafia...greyblades has a very good chance as well, for lurking and other things. A handful of others after that but they aren't high on my list.

Beefy187
06-03-2009, 01:12
Cheers for that everyone :2thumbsup:

Anyone not have a group and wants to join ours?

Chaotix
06-03-2009, 01:48
Don't bother with split, I know he's innocent.

Or maybe I'm just screwing with your head, and I know he's mafia.

:clown:

johnhughthom
06-03-2009, 02:00
Anybody else starting to get spooked, virtually every post is by a ghost. :sweatdrop:

LittleGrizzly
06-03-2009, 02:02
Ok several people have not contacted me for thier orders for what to do tonight, this isn't helping me organise the groups at all...

In the words of an eloquent speaker... 'your either with us or against us' those not paticipating in the night actions are most definetly not with us...

Edit: Ignoramus clear your pm box!

Sasaki Kojiro
06-03-2009, 02:36
Looks to me like the pompeiins are toast (cultured, atheotes, tratorix)

Hmm, thinking about it, technically there's no real reason to believe that cultured was actually one the 3 pompeiins. He could have been put up to it or been a recruit of some kind. I guess we'll see how many mafia kills there are tonight.

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-03-2009, 02:42
I am offended you wouldn't recognize the GREAT POMPEY!

Ignoramus
06-03-2009, 03:07
Inbox has space now.