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[Beskar]

I think Sasaki is guility.

[Iskander 3.1]

Don't bother with split, I know he's innocent.

Or maybe I'm just screwing with your head, and I know he's mafia.

:clown:

From a PM sent to me by Split, the night Ichigo died:

"You, me, Marshall murat, and Iggnoramous are set to defend.

This is incase you return on time, this is our new group.

We will stay in contact, and most likely protect people instead of attacking. Certain nights I may need to drop out, as I have something going with Chaotix, and some nights he requires me to help him, but I will inform you of this ahead of time."

Also, me, beefy, and him were supposed to protect GSC when GSC died, but Split failed to show. I believed him when he said he forgot to PM TinCow, but now I'm not so sure.

[Greyblades]

Little Grizzly stop spamming my inbox, I'm not going to help you kill split when, as far as I'm concerned, your as big a suspect as he is. Stop asking.

[Ignoramus]

Little Grizzly stop spamming my inbox, I'm not going to help you kill split when, as far as I'm concerned, your as big a suspect as he is. Stop asking.

Mafia. :yes:

[Beefy187]

Mafia. :yes:

Not necessary. Would the mafia actually bothers to gather attention like that?

Sure his done it in Noble Sons II... But I think his innocent

[LittleGrizzly]

Little Grizzly stop spamming my inbox, I'm not going to help you kill split when, as far as I'm concerned, your as big a suspect as he is. Stop asking.

Ok no problem, congratulations on making yourself my kill target for tomorrow night.... even if only because i have wasted effort now and its too late to change the order

Ohh and if he is a big a suspect as me... assuming im some kind of suspect to you... surely his removal would be to your benefit.

If i suspect Sasaki and Greyblades for example i would help sasaki kill greyblades as it removes someone i suspect...

Your probably just a bad townie, still as a suspect and a bad townie you've made your way to the top of the kill/lynch list..

Ohh and please explain what this suspicion is about...

Lastly, apologies split, my hands were kinda tied in the matter.... you will probably be killed off in the next few nights due to the suspicion on you, but, if you as you claim are, loyal to the republican ideals of rome then you will continue to help us in the meantime, who knows we may get the last mafia before your death...

Even if you do die in the glorious struggle for the republic... you are part of the victory as long as you are a senator, so even if you are to die before the republic is saved, your name will be honoured throughout time as the senator who martyred himself for rome!

Edit:

I don't know if you can submit order changes or even if there will be enough time left...

But if so the group i ordered to attack splitpersonality change your attack to greyblades, remove greyblades from the list of helpers and replace him with splitpersonality...

split... if you would be so kind as to join the attack...

[Greyblades]

Your killing a townie just because he refuses to kill someone else who he has no reason to?:rolleyes: Since when were you elected judge, jury and executioner? Your more scummy to me than split and I have no reason or inclination to help you because when posed with the choice of killing a proved investigator or a unconfirmed lurker you go for the townie. If the rest of town is this dense then we may as well give up.

I am not a mafia I am a one use detective I've used it up and now I'm just a townie.

[Beefy187]

Your killing a townie just because he refuses to kill someone else who he has no reason to?:rolleyes: Since when were you elected judge, jury and executioner? Your more scummy to me than split and I have no reason or inclination to help you because when posed with the choice of killing a proved investigator or a unconfirmed lurker you go for the townie. If the rest of town is this dense then we may as well give up.

I am not a mafia I am a one use detective I've used it up and now I'm just a townie.

Its late game Greyblades. LittleGrizzly seems to know whats happening with most of the players. The best way for us to win is by getting rid of players who doesn't seem to be in group.

[Andres]

Its late game Greyblades. LittleGrizzly seems to know whats happening with most of the players. The best way for us to win is by getting rid of players who doesn't seem to be in group.

Are you 100 % sure about LittleGrizzly? He was a suspect of Sasaki a couple of rounds ago. Did he in the meanwhile provide the required evidence of the role he claimed in that round?

[Greyblades]

@Beefy: And yet he's killing a proved investigator over a lurker?

[LittleGrizzly]

Your killing a townie just because he refuses to kill someone else who he has no reason to?

Nope im killing you because your a suspect and refuse to cooperate with group efforts...

Besides didn't you just say split was as much of a suspect as me ?

Either you aren't suspicious of me or you are suspicious of split

Since when were you elected judge, jury and executioner?

Around about the time sasaki put me in charge of the townie group, its not just me though, as you can see from sasaki's posts there is suspicion on you...

Your more scummy than me or split and I have no reason or inclination to help you.

Weren't me and split as scummy as each other a few posts back ?

As it is my innocence seems to be trusted by everyone else but you... are you the genuis who can see what others are missing... if so you better spit it out because as things stand i am directing the towns efforts, and any good townie would shout and scream and stomp if he thought a scummy player was leading the town....

But the only reason you seem to be suspicious of me is because i asked you to carry out an attack, no mention of any suspicion on me whilst i was clearly leading the towns efforts, where i was requesting people to give me thier night results, where sasaki said i was in charge of the townie group...

No, the only time you seemed to have a problem is when i asked you to participate in a night action...

You can call me a bad townie all you want but good townie doesn't follow a player that has yet to prove his innocence like sheep just because he says so.

There are things you can't know, primarily because your still a suspect, partially because information is one power we have over the mafia at the moment.... though you still don't have to take my word for it... look at the facts...

Sasaki perhaps one of the best mafia players on the .org handing over the town group to me... sasaki wouldn't have dared do such a thing unless he could be 100% certain of my innocence

No counter claim to my claim of consul, if i was the real other consul, and a fake consul was just put in charge i would be screaming the thread down that he is a fake

Chaotix blocking me two nights running with no drop in kills and him confirming that i have guards, all said in the thread just go back and check

I have huge paranoia in these games but i would trust someone who managed all the above criteria...

Are you 100 % sure about LittleGrizzly? He was a suspect of Sasaki a couple of rounds ago. Did he in the meanwhile provide the required evidence of the role he claimed in that round?

sasaki publically handed the townie network over to me, combine that with stuff i mentioned above which is checkable through the thread, i think there is every reason to believe my innocence. There are a limited amount of players who can be sure of my innocence, the absence of anyone but greyblades questioning me must also prove my innocence to a point...

Greyblades if you truely are a proven innocent why do you appear in sasaki's suspect list ?

I have seen nothing to prove your innocence hence why your part of the suspect list...

Edit: If i have missed something please correct my error, there is time for me to cancel the order if i feel there is a need to... but i do not see such a need at the moment...

[Beefy187]

Are you 100 % sure about LittleGrizzly? He was a suspect of Sasaki a couple of rounds ago. Did he in the meanwhile provide the required evidence of the role he claimed in that round?

No. But nobody else seems to be taking the initiative. And I am keeping close attention on someone else I think may be guilty.

We also have 14 men left so, we don't have to hurry too much.

[Andres]

I am not a mafia I am a one use detective I've used it up and now I'm just a townie.


@Beefy: And yet he's killing a proved investigator over a lurker?

:inquisitive:

Also, it seems like your special ability is the exact same as AggonyDuck's, who posted his in the public thread early on in the game.

[Greyblades]

:shrug: He's probably the optimates investigator.
I may as well reveal seeing as I'm dead if I don't prove my innocence:


“Better be ignorant of a matter than half know it.”
- Publilius Syrus

Gaius Asinius Pollio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Asinius_Pollio_(consul_40_BC)) (Pollio)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

You are an intelligent young Senator with a promising future. Few men in Rome are as intelligent, witty, and talented as you, but many are more experienced. Your inherent abilities have brought your great success and prosperity that is unusual in a man of your youth, but you know that you can accomplish far, far more. However, you must first survive this political cataclysm before you can demonstrate your true value to the Roman people. Perhaps it would be a good time to call in some of those favors you have accumulated with your recent successes…


Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Clientela (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clientela): As a prominent Senator, you have spent a lifetime cultivating an expansive web of connections. All over Rome, men both high and low owe you great obligations. In this time of crisis, you have decided to call in one of your most valuable favors. One of your clients is well-placed inside the household of another Senator, and he will provide you with information. You may investigate alone once. The investigation will show the target's faction and whether the target was active, though not what they were doing.

[TinCow]

We also have 14 men left so, we don't have to hurry too much.

I feel like this is a good time for me to remind people that this is not a normal mafia game. The mafia does not have to outnumber the town to win. All they have to do is eliminate the other faction and their opposing mafioso. It is entirely possible for the game to end in a mafia victory with the town outnumbering the mafia several times over.

[Beefy187]

I feel like this is a good time for me to remind people that this is not a normal mafia game. The mafia does not have to outnumber the town to win. All they have to do is eliminate the other faction and their opposing mafioso. It is entirely possible for the game to end in a mafia victory with the town outnumbering the mafia several times over.

This means that theres at least two mafia left. And the game is about to end.

[LittleGrizzly]

Unless i have some incorrect information i can gaurentee us at least another round..

[Greyblades]

Are you still going to kill me?

[TinCow]

This means that theres at least two mafia left. And the game is about to end.

The game will end as soon as any player meets their victory criteria. This has not yet happened. Take from that what you will.

[Andres]

Sasaki perhaps one of the best mafia players on the .org handing over the town group to me... sasaki wouldn't have dared do such a thing unless he could be 100% certain of my innocence

Sasaki is not infallible...



No counter claim to my claim of consul, if i was the real other consul, and a fake consul was just put in charge i would be screaming the thread down that he is a fake

Weren't there two consuls anyhow according to the OP?


Chaotix blocking me two nights running with no drop in kills and him confirming that i have guards, all said in the thread just go back and check

I have huge paranoia in these games but i would trust someone who managed all the above criteria...

Wasn't Chaotix confirmed scum (or didn't he say himself that he was scum somewhere)?


Are you 100 % sure about LittleGrizzly? He was a suspect of Sasaki a couple of rounds ago. Did he in the meanwhile provide the required evidence of the role he claimed in that round?

sasaki publically handed the townie network over to me, combine that with stuff i mentioned above which is checkable through the thread, i think there is every reason to believe my innocence. There are a limited amount of players who can be sure of my innocence, the absence of anyone but greyblades questioning me must also prove my innocence to a point...

Maybe Sasaki has reasons to believe you're innocent, but your explanations don't clear you entirely as far as I'm concerned.

Town should not make the mistake of letting a so-called confirmed innocent off the hook for the rest of the game.

:shrug:

[Marshal Murat]

I think that Greyblades, since he revealed that he is Pollio, should be killed. Who doesn't want to end Polio? :laugh4:

[Jolt]

This means that theres at least two mafia left. And the game is about to end.

No, this can mean that only one Mafia familly is still alive (e.g. Caesarians) and there are still Optimates Senators alive, but no Pompeians.

EDIT: However I think Pompey is still quite alive and trying to give the impression that he is dead.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

:shrug: He's probably the optimates investigator.
I may as well reveal seeing as I'm dead if I don't prove my innocence:

Mafia have cover pm's ~:rolleyes:


EDIT: However I think Pompey is still quite alive and trying to give the impression that he is dead.

You have to wonder how he got cultured to go around talking? Though since you aren't allowed to reveal after death perhaps that is evidence that he was lying about being mafia.

[Greyblades]

Sure and I suppose that cover roles also have special abilities that work?:rolleyes:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sure and I suppose that cover roles also have special abilities that work?:rolleyes:

Yes, otherwise we could have found all the mafia night one.

[Greyblades]

How does that work? What,do you ask people for their roles on day one?
As for the role I meant work as in actually usable instead of decoration to throw off onlookers.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

How does that work? What,do you ask people for their roles on day one?
As for the role I meant work as in actually usable instead of decoration to throw off onlookers.

Tratorix posted pm's showing that his ability was used.

You know, adding things up, at least one person has lied about their faction. Unless I added things up wrong...

[Greyblades]

I'm sorry but I dont remember that. Could you please quote the post when he said he was mafia, when he said he used a special ability?

[ULC]

I'm sorry but I dont remember that. Could you please quote the post when he said he was mafia, when he said he used a special ability?

Your needless antagonism isn't helping you Greyblades.

[LittleGrizzly]

Are you still going to kill me?

By the looks of it there wasn't enough time to change the order, you really want to prove your innocence take part in the attack on split tonight and if the mafia kill at the same time your cleared (unless my logic is wrong here ?)

I realise split could be an innocent senator, and it would be tragic that we killed him, but what we have left is a list of uncleared people, and because of other things it came down to split having to go tonight, in this list of people are the tyrants... so we have to work through the list even if innocents die along the way...

So if you really want to prove your innocence and help maintain the republic this is a nessecary evil...

Sorry for double post but i wanted to post this quickly... coming onto andres points now..

[Greyblades]

Your needless antagonism isn't helping you Greyblades.

No, actually, I'm genuinely puzzled at where tratorix revealed that he was mafia.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm sorry but I dont remember that. Could you please quote the post when he said he was mafia, when he said he used a special ability?

You should trust me...


Dead Townies have little to no reason to lie

:bounce:

[Greyblades]

Beaten by my own words, man this is embarrassing. :grin:

[LittleGrizzly]

Sasaki is not infallible...

Certainly not, and despite his great nose for mafia he can be wrong sometimes...

So knowing sasaki don't you think he would ensured i was an innocent using methods available to him as townie group leader ?





Weren't there two consuls anyhow according to the OP?

Yes and we have 2 claimed consuls, but no more



Wasn't Chaotix confirmed scum (or didn't he say himself that he was scum somewhere)?

From what i have read he seemed to have a nuetral role, you'll notice his little rant after he died 'last time i try and help the town' or something to that effect.

He was a roleblocker, i think others can confirm this, he roleblocked me two nights running whilst the mafia maintained thier level of kills, and posted in the thread saying so...


Maybe Sasaki has reasons to believe you're innocent, but your explanations don't clear you entirely as far as I'm concerned.

Town should not make the mistake of letting a so-called confirmed innocent off the hook for the rest of the game.

I realise what i have presented isn't a slam dunk case, but i think its fairly close, there are other ways my innocence has been proven but i can't really share that information.... as much as that sucks it is for the good of the town...

[Splitpersonality]

So I'm target for attack tonight?

What reasons justify this attack?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The process of elimination my friend.

[Splitpersonality]

Ugh... there's no way to prove my innocence then eh?

I'm going to be killing if I produce no results, and I won't produce results if I know i'm going to be killed...

Guess it's my time to go. *shrug*

[Andres]

Tratorix posted pm's showing that his ability was used.

You know, adding things up, at least one person has lied about their faction. Unless I added things up wrong...

Ignoramus has the ability to switch faction; maybe others have/had it as well and used it.

@LittleGrizzly: well, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but if the game continues after the elimination of all suspects, we'll have to look into your case again. Who was the other consul? Or is that classified information?

[LittleGrizzly]

Damn Big post all gone!!

Firstly sorry split, as i said in pm... your on the list and we need to work on the list, because of other actions there wasn't exactly much choice...

When the republic is restored your sacrifice shall be honoured with a grand statue I shall demand it I shall propose a motion on it

If you do turn out to be guilty i think im going to be more annoyed with with all the apologising and guilt...

Who was the other consul? Or is that classified information?

I don't know and I don't know TBH. Thinking on it where i said we had 2 claimed consuls was actually an assumption on my part... i assume sasaki would have been alot more suspicious...

Actually isn't that why i nearly got lynched... i think there may have been more than 2 consul claims... the rest of my case is still pretty strong though...

[TinCow]

Night X is over, etc.

[TinCow]

“Few men desire liberty: The majority are satisfied with a just master.”
- Gaius Sallustius Crispus

https://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5923/imagem24.jpg

The large group of men moved through the city cautiously, through back streets and alleyways. As they approached their target, they slowed down and eventually halted. There before them was a large and impressive villa. A high wall encircled it, but light was blazing forth from behind the barrier. The occupants were awake. The four leaders of the mob huddled together, discussing what to do, when a shout startled them.

“Come on, come on!” A man was standing at the main gate of the villa, waiving to them. Their cover blown, the men stood up and walked forward into the illuminated street. Before them stood spL1tp3r50naL1ty, apparently unarmed and unconcerned. “You took long enough!”

The men looked hesitantly at one another, before one asked “You were expecting us?”

spL1tp3r50naL1ty laughed. “Expecting you?! Your masters proclaimed their intentions to kill me openly in the Curia itself! How could I not be expecting you?” He shook his head wryly, then turned around and walked back through the gates. When the men did not move to follow him, he stopped, turned, and beckoned them onwards. “Come on then, you’re here to kill me, are you not? Yes? Well then, come in here and do it!” The mob of men drew their pugii and followed after spL1tp3r50naL1ty.

No sooner had they crossed the threshold than the gates slammed shut behind them and armed men charged from concealed locations on either side. With a cry, the mob turned to meet them. A desperate fight ensued, and soon cries of terror and pain began to echo around the villa. Though they outnumbered their foes, the men were clearly not as well trained at battle and they were out-maneuvered as well. The leaders of the group called for a retreat, but with the gate barred, there was nowhere to go but deeper into the villa.

They ran forward, fending off the attacks of the armed men who followed them. Tables were thrown over, chairs broken, and expensive artwork and decorations scattered about as the battle moved through the building. Men began to fall, wounded and bleeding, only to be left behind as the battle passed them by. The mob broke through many doors, looking for an exit, but they found only walled rooms or further corridors. They began to lose hope of ever escaping when at last a broken door revealed a room with a high window. The men bolted inside, throwing any object they could into the doorway to keep their foes at bay, while one by one they began to climb out the small window and into the streets of Rome.

The last man left had a desperate struggle, as he held the barricade, waiting for his companions to get clear, before he threw himself forward, jumping for the window. He caught the ledge, and pulled himself through, landing heavily on the outside. Other men pulled him to his feet, and together they ran off into the night.


…

AggonyDuck had not been sleeping well lately. The crisis caused by the confrontation between Caesar and Pompey had inflicted horrible suffering on Rome. Well, actually more on the Senate than the population as a whole, but the Senate was Rome, was it not? Even more importantly, AggonyDuck was part of the Senate, and thus his own neck was on the line every day! Ah, those ignorant plebeians, growing wealthy through proscriptions and free from the risks of assassination in the night. All they had to worry about was the normal kind of murder. Murder and poverty. Unemployment was rife, of course. Plus starvation. And war, since they would inevitably be the ones fighting it. Oh, and disease. Indentured servitude was a risk too, if they fell into debt. Plus fire, you couldn’t forget fire. Or the gangs that ran the streets.

Yes, all in all the plebeians had it pretty well, while the Senate had to sit in their large villas, wondering whether an assassin was hiding behind this fountain, or perhaps that fountain, or maybe even the fountain over there! It was nearly unbearable, so AggonyDuck consoled himself with late nights drinking fine wines and eating delicacies imported from Africa and Illyria.

Still, the paranoia ran deep. It crept into AggonyDuck’s heart and soon he was eyeing those damned fountains, looking for assassins. Why had he made them so huge? An entire legion could hide behind one of them, and a cohort could hide behind another! Damn be the life of a patrician! Slowly, he crept up on the largest fountain, carefully protecting his eyes so that the light reflecting off the numerous jeweled inlays would not ruin his vision. Circumventing the entire structure, he was relieved to find it empty.

Next, he approached the second fountain, certain to find a cohort of dastardly legionaries waiting to end his humble life of public service. A cautious perusal soon proved this one to also be free of assassins. AggonyDuck was now much more relaxed. All that was left was the third statue, and that couldn’t possibly hide much more than a few armed men. Steeling himself, he snuck up on it, then jumped forward, revealing what was behind.

Just as he expected, there crouching in the shadow of the statue was a group of men clutching gladii. Typical. As the men got about their dirty work, AggonyDuck couldn’t help but pity himself and the miserable life of suffering and hardship he had endured. For the previous few nights at least. Easily a week; maybe a bit more.


…

In the morning, the small group of Senators filed through the forum and took their places in the Curia. No one paid any attention to the newly empty seat in the Optimates section, as an incredibly important note was nailed to the main doors. They all read it very, very, very closely and agreed that it was wisdom of unparalleled magnitude:



I have no need to try some "cryptic message" this time as it is quite clear to me I am going to win. Instead I will lecture you all in your failure to show respect to the Gods. Specifically of course the greatest of all Gods, Metallus Bovinus. Your lack of participation in Senate discussions has been scandalous, indeed it seems many of us have to try to converse with the dead to get any serious discourse going. A lot of effort has been made behind the scenes by his priests, don't displease him further with your idleness.
Be good Romans, respect the Gods.

Alive (13):
Beefy187
Greyblades
LittleGrizzly
johnhughthom
Shinseikhaan
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Khazaar
Jolt
Marshal Murat
Iskander 3.1
Ignoramus
TheFlax
Caius

Killed (14):
White_eyes:D
mini
Beskar
Yaropolk
pevergreen
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
Andres
woad&fangs
Sasaki Kojiro
Askthepizzaguy
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Ichigo
AggonyDuck

Proscripted (9):
navarro951
Tiberius of the Drake
Cronos Impera
Cultured Drizzt fan
YLC
Atheotes
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Tratorix

WoG/Suicide (1):
everyone

It is now Day X. You may begin voting. This day phase will end on Thursday, June 4th at 7:30pm EST.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

For some reason I feel that splitpersonality should be lynched.... ~D

[LittleGrizzly]

Yes, all in all the plebeians had it pretty well

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

as an incredibly important note was nailed to the main doors. They all read it very, very, very closely and agreed that it was wisdom of unparalleled magnitude:

:laugh4::laugh4:

I think even i can agree with Caesar on this one... except maybe for the imminent victory part...

I don't if im happy we found someone guilty or annoyed that i spent half an hour apologising and feeling guilty for going after the right person...

well this should be a fairly easy one...

Vote spl1tp350naL1ty

[Greyblades]

Well, Grizzly said I'm going to be killed if split isn't, and I dont think he's going to change his mind so...
Vote: spl1tp350naL1ty

[Marshal Murat]

I'm curious about TheFlax, what do we have on him?

Vote:Abstain

[Beefy187]

Wait, why is Split getting lynched? :juggle2:

[johnhughthom]

I'm guessing due to that protection he had.

[LittleGrizzly]

TBH im not so sure your on the suspect list anymore, there was a kill last night whilst you were active in a group, though i guess this does depends on the numbers mafia have left... i would have to check with the others but i would say at the very least you have moved yourself down the suspect ladder..

though voting for split is the right move... theres no reason he should have trained gaurds... unless he is mafia...

Edit: split should not have trained gaurds, only pro town roles which are accounted for and mafia have trained gaurds... split never once claimed to have trained guards either...

Conclusion, split = mafia...

[Marshal Murat]

Are you asking why Split has had attempts on his life or why are we lynching him?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Wait, why is Split getting lynched? :juggle2:


There before them was a large and impressive villa. A high wall encircled it, but light was blazing forth from behind the barrier.

....


No sooner had they crossed the threshold than the gates slammed shut behind them and armed men charged from concealed locations on either side. With a cry, the mob turned to meet them. A desperate fight ensued, and soon cries of terror and pain began to echo around the villa. Though they outnumbered their foes, the men were clearly not as well trained at battle and they were out-maneuvered as well.

:yes:

[Beefy187]

I'm guessing due to that protection he had.

I also have a protection ability that I havn't used up.

I get to use a slave or something to protect my self if I am inactive that night. It only work once.

So I don't think that alone proves Splits guilt.

[Iskander 3.1]

Vote: Splitpersonality

My earlier post about him, and the actions from last night, definitely warrant a proscription vote.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I also have a protection ability that I havn't used up.

I get to use a slave or something to protect my self if I am inactive that night. It only work once.

So I don't think that alone proves Splits guilt.

Yes, but read the description--his protection was clearly not a one shot protection as we saw with YLC.

[johnhughthom]

.

So I don't think that alone proves Splits guilt.

I don't think so either, I was just saying that is probably the reason for the suspicion.

[LittleGrizzly]

I get the feeling a slave wouldn't be well trained in battle... as per the bit sasaki bolded...

[Beefy187]

Righteo.. I get your point.

Vote: Splitpersonality

[Splitpersonality]

So you're lynbching a wealthy senator for having a one time protection deal? You should be ashamed, your lack of deducing skills has wrecked my villa!

While I was not always the most pro-active senator, i'm still a damn senator!

Lookie here, my villa is trashed and my men dead.


You were not in the least bit surprised when a large mob of men with four leaders appeared in the middle of the night, apparently intending to kill you. Fortunately, you are not as defenseless as you look. Your guards drove off the men with a well timed ambush, and your life was never seriously threatened. The murderous bastards wrecked your beautiful villa, however, and many of your guards are incapacitated with injuries. You will not be able to survive another attack without outside help.

I urge you to not lynch me, as I will be dead by nightfall anyway. I instead would like to foster some discussion as to who else is suspiscious.

Don't bandwaggon me for nothing, when you could easily get the mafia right now.

[Splitpersonality]

Since it is doubtless I will die regardless of your lynch today, here's my role PM for good measure.


“Think to yourself that every day is your last; the hour to which you do not look forward will come as a welcome surprise.”
- Quintus Horatius Flaccus

Lucius Munatius Plancus (Plancus)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

You served in Caesar’s legions well and ably during the Gallic Wars. A veteran of glorious combat with powerful friends in the Senate, it was only a matter of time before you became a Senator yourself. With you long-standing friendship with both Gaius Julius Caesar and Marcus Antonius, your allegiance to the Populares has never been in question. However, you are a flexible man and know that loyalties can change over time, given the right circumstances. You are free to support the Caesarians or the Republic as you see fit.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Villa Stronghold: You are a wealthy man and own a fine villa which you have designed for security as well as comfort. Your guards are loyal and will fight to the death to protect you. So long as you remain inside your fortress home, you will be difficult to kill. You can survive one successful attack if you are inactive on the night of the attack.


I may choose to side with the Cesarians or the Republic as I see fit, thought it seems I did a poor job helping either of those causes. I failed as a townie and good senators died because of me, I'm no mafia, but I'm just as scummy.

My villa destroyed, my men half dead, and myself the prime suspect.

Vote:Splitpersonality, though I'd prefer you get someone more worthwhile, not scum like me, I can only believe it will happen regardless.

Chaotix, and those who died because of my negligence, I am truly sorry.

[LittleGrizzly]

hmm, im not good with role pms, easily fooled, can we push the smarter senators up to the front and let them have a look at it... in the meantime i shall chase my shadow.. he can't evade me forever!

*consul grizzly hops off trying to jump on his shadow*

[johnhughthom]

It say's your loyalties can change over time, shouldn't you have a faction switch special ability?

[Beefy187]

hmm, im not good with role pms, easily fooled, can we push the smarter senators up to the front and let them have a look at it... in the meantime i shall chase my shadow.. he can't evade me forever!

*consul grizzly hops off trying to jump on his shadow*

The ability is exactly the same as mine I think.

[Splitpersonality]

I'm being serious when I say that I feel/am scummy.

I feel like sh*t that I couldn't keep up in this game, and the town suffered for it. I should get an award for most useless townie :/


About my thing, I think it means I'm recruitable, though I can't honestly say if that's true or not.

All these roman terms confused me, I'm rusty on my history so I let most of the things I didn't get sit there. I probably should've asked about that but oh well.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So you're lynbching a wealthy senator for having a one time protection deal? You should be ashamed, your lack of deducing skills has wrecked my villa!

While I was not always the most pro-active senator, i'm still a damn senator!

Lookie here, my villa is trashed and my men dead.





What he saw was horrifying. Bodies were scattered in multiple places, windows and doors were broken, and nearly everything of value in the room had been broken. His villa was ruined, but at least YLC was alive.


Shinseikhaan’s villa was a wreck, with bodies strewn about and doors and windows broken everywhere. Still, at least it wasn’t just another boring night!


Your protection ability is clearly different from theirs--much more like a dictator's.



However, you are a flexible man and know that loyalties can change over time, given the right circumstances. You are free to support the Caesarians or the Republic as you see fit.

Sounds like your special ability should be the same as ignoramus. You shouldn't get two special abilities.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I am willing to bet Sasaki was one of Caeser's men

[Splitpersonality]

The writeup also differs from what Tincow sent me.

Your point being what?

Just cause tincow alters the writing style to suit the mood of the events doesn't mean that I'm guilty because of it.

Again, this is all pointless because I am a dead man either way. Though as I've said, I WOULD ENJOY IT GREATLY if the town tried to to get someone better to lynch. I feel like a waste of a lynch!

If I could suicide I'd do that too.

[johnhughthom]

I repeat my question split:


It say's your loyalties can change over time, shouldn't you have a faction switch special ability?

I wasn't convinced of lynching you before, but I smell an edited role pm here.

[Splitpersonality]

I said before in my post.

I don't really understand that either, I think it means i'm recruitable.

OR

It has something to do with the victory conditions.

Spcifically the second one, as opposed to the first.

As far as I can tell, from my own knowledge (very little) either dictator would be bad for the republic. It seems my first victory condition is one that all senators share, to keep the republic strong.

This would be very different from destroying the Opimates as my second condition is. Which would be something Caeser (my old chum from way back when apparently) would support.

Maybe it means i'm recruitable. Again, I stress that I do not know and did not ask.

Like I said, be convinced of anything you want, I'm still dead at the end of the day. Just depends on when, and by what hand.

[johnhughthom]

You didn't think to check with TinCow when something didn't make sense, there was a part of my role pm I wasn't 100% on so I just asked TC and he told me right away.
That role pm doesn't look right at all to me.

[Splitpersonality]

Like I said, I don't know much roman history, so I just figured it would all make sense and that there was nothing wrong.

Probably a bad assumption.

But again, I do not care what you think of my PMs, I would like you all to kill me somehow. Again, is suicide an option?

[LittleGrizzly]

I thought that either you can go with republic victory or your own faction victory and this is the same for every non mafia player ?

except maybe chaotix...

Suicide is a game breaker, not allowed for the reasons you want it...

[Splitpersonality]

I'm pretty sure it is, the first post has that in there.


And if I had edited my PM I would've made sure there were no mistakes in it.

if I were mafia there would be quite a bit riding on this here, and though I'm inexperienced I'm not dumb :P

[atheotes]

The role PM does look fishy... it talks about ability to switching factions but does not include that in victory conditions... maybe Split edited/combined posted role pms to explain his protection and did it in a hurry. I highly doubt that Tincow could have made the mistake and Split never asked about it. The disconnect in the role PM is glaringly obvious even to me.

[Splitpersonality]

Take your role PM

Copy it, paste into something like notepad.

Look at the spaces.

They should be exactly the same, if not simmilar.

I hate how no one can even trust that I'm giving you the genuine F'ing PM here. It's not about my survival, I'd just like you guys to believe i'm a real senator and not a mindless drone working for that dolt Caeser.

[Beefy187]

I am willing to bet Sasaki was one of Caeser's men

I made it quite obvious that I am Optimates as I revealed that to Sasaki a few nights back.

If he is Caesars man, I would be dead a while ago.

[johnhughthom]

That proves nothing split, you could have taken a genuine pm and edited it and it will still have the same spacing etc. You haven't explained the descrepancy between the description and your victory conditions and special abilities. TinCow has obviously paid a lot of attention to the details with this game, I can't see him giving somebody such a vague role.

[Splitpersonality]

I've said it f'ing 3 times now..

I DON'T KNOW THE DISCREPANCY

IF I KNEW IT I'D TELL YOU.

If I had even a plaustible lie to tell you, as mafia I would do that.

But I'm NOT mafia, and I have NO idea why it says that.

I CAN see him giving someone such a vague role because he gave ME this role.

This is making me too angry right now...

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The writeup also differs from what Tincow sent me.

Your point being what?



That you could have forged the result you posted.


However, I agree with looking at other suspects.

I think john and iskander could be mafia.

In fact, let's get some votes off of split so that we don't get stuck on one person.

[Splitpersonality]

Ellaborate on John and Iskander please.

I don't want this whole discussion to be about why "Split is definately getting lynched, he's dead" i know that. I voted myself down too you see?

I'd rather it be about how the town is going to progress next, or this is just a waste of a day.

I will no longer speak about my role, my PMs, or anything else.

I am a senator, I will die of my own will, but the republic shall live.

[johnhughthom]

Ellaborate on John and Iskander please.



Indeed, please do.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Indeed, please do.

Ya'll have lied to me in the past...and the brothers link is a bit suspicious to me as well. Were you involved in the kill group last night?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I made it quite obvious that I am Optimates as I revealed that to Sasaki a few nights back.

If he is Caesars man, I would be dead a while ago.


I'm beginning to think you lied to me about your faction. Has anyone checked beefy's faction?

[johnhughthom]

LG didn't ask us to take part, he asked us to send him the results of our investigation. Which I will send now.

edit: Iskander and I checked beefy out previously, he is Optimates.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

LG didn't ask us to take part, he asked us to send him the results of our investigation. Which I will send now.



Did you work with iskander on night 5?

[johnhughthom]

I have deleted most of my pms and checking the write up I can't remember what I did that night, was I supposed to be part of a group that failed or something?
edit: oh I was part of a group on the LittleGrizzly attack/defend thing right? I sent my orders in, wasn't it somebody else who failed?

[Iskander 3.1]

I think night 5 was one of the times that I helped with the test on "everyone". But when did I lie to you? I know that the first time we test-killed "everyone" I improperly PM'd TinCow, and I forwarded his reply to you, Sasaki.

Unvote: Splitpersonality

I'll think on it. Let me ponder your role PM.

[Splitpersonality]

What night did you fail to send properly?

Because I have an attempt that failed, it was missing 2 people from my group of Iskander, Myself, Marshal Murat, and one other whom I can't remember..

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Nevermind

[atheotes]

I made it quite obvious that I am Optimates as I revealed that to Sasaki a few nights back.

If he is Caesars man, I would be dead a while ago.

I hope you did not correspond with Sasaki after his death, i believe that is against the rules... Sasaki died on Night 5. :juggle2:

[Splitpersonality]

What were you doing on night 6 CDF?

[atheotes]

I am willing to tell you which kills were ours, if you want to know. could help figure out who wasnt doing what on what night.

I dont think you are allowed to reveal...

[Beefy187]

I hope you did not correspond with Sasaki after his death, i believe that is against the rules... Sasaki died on Night 5. :juggle2:

No it was when he was still around.

[Iskander 3.1]

What night did you fail to send properly?

Because I have an attempt that failed, it was missing 2 people from my group of Iskander, Myself, Marshal Murat, and one other whom I can't remember..

The night we did the first attack on "everyone." I sent in my kill orders but neglected to tell TinCow that I was doing this with a group, which led to my men not showing up in-game.

The other member of the group was Sasaki.

[Splitpersonality]

There was one night when I had two members not showing up while myself and one other did it. Sasaki knows what i'm talking about I don't remember specifics.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Say what you like about split, I don't think he could have killed Duck, because he would most likely have had to use his night action to defend himself.


sent in my kill orders but neglected to tell TinCow that I was doing this with a group,

See, this just seems very unlikely to me.

[Splitpersonality]

Yeah, my protective skill only works if I do nothing at night.

Which is exactly what I did.

[TinCow]

It has been pointed out to me that in the Day III write-up, I failed to note Tiberius of the Drake's faction. This was an error. Tiberius of the Drake was a Populares. Apologies if this caused any confusion.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

edit: Iskander and I checked beefy out previously, he is Optimates.

What night was this? And why did you check him?

I think beefy was lying about being optimates...LG or someone else, you mind seeing if you can double check that for me? It might be that I'm the only one with the necessary information.

[Beefy187]

Unvote: Split

Until I'm back from lunch.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hmm, I've reread the thread and a bunch of pm's and I believe I can say with authority that john and/or iskander is guilty. Against the rules to reveal why.

splitpersonality could still be guilty of course...hmm. But I don't think he made the kill.

johnhughthom should be lynched.

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Iskander

[TheFlax]

In Sasaki I trust.

Vote: johnhughthom

[Andres]

So, we have the following suspects:

- splitpersonality;
- Beefy187;
- Iskander 3.1;
- johnhughthom;
- LittleGrizzly.

I think splitpersonality should be lynched today; that role pm is obviously fake. LittleGrizzly should be last on our priority list, I don't think he's guilty but would start to feel very uncomfortable if he stayed alive until endgame. If LG would be mafia, then Sasaki is probably guilty as well.

Lynch split today and vig kill at least one of Beefy, Iskander and johnhughthom, make sure the other(s) are tied in a group action.

[Andres]

Vote: Iskander

I always feel uncomfortable when you're alive in the endgame of a large mafia. You're not going to fool me again, are you 'khaan?

[Beefy187]

So, we have the following suspects:

- splitpersonality;
- Beefy187;
- Iskander 3.1;
- johnhughthom;
- LittleGrizzly.

I think splitpersonality should be lynched today; that role pm is obviously fake. LittleGrizzly should be last on our priority list, I don't think he's guilty but would start to feel very uncomfortable if he stayed alive until endgame. If LG would be mafia, then Sasaki is probably guilty as well.

Lynch split today and vig kill at least one of Beefy, Iskander and johnhughthom, make sure the other(s) are tied in a group action.

But... But.. I'm a optimates.. :sweatdrop:

Why am I a suspect when theres only Caesarians left...

[Andres]

But... But.. I'm a optimates.. :sweatdrop:

Why am I a suspect when theres only Caesarians left...

It's not because there's no more Pompey news/propaganda and because Cultured Drizzt Fan, a mafioso who confessed, said that there are no more Pompeians left, that there are no more Pompeians left.

So no, being Optimates doesn't clear you in the slightest.

Add to that the fact that there are roles who can switch faction during the game so being discovered as Optimates on let's say N3 is not a guarantee that you're an Optimates now.

[Jolt]

This is all becoming quite confusing. From what I read, I reckon split is innocent. Sasaki is dead and the general consensus to which I agree, is that Sasaki is townie and therefore is trying to help the town. This brothers thingie is also quite odd, and is giving me the shivers.

Vote: Iskander

[johnhughthom]

“The rule of friendship means there should be mutual sympathy between them, each supplying what the other lacks and trying to benefit the other, always using friendly and sincere words.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

Marcus Aemilius Lepidus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Aemilius_Lepidus_(triumvir)) (Lepidus)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

Your father was a controversial man, in the best traditions of Rome. He supported Lucius Cornelius Sulla while he was Dictator, but quickly turned on him once he retired from public life and dedicated himself to the Populares cause. His consulship was… eventful… to put it kindly, but the children of powerful exiles are still the children of powerful men.

Both you and your brother, Lucius Aemilius Lepidus Paullus, have followed in your father’s footsteps as supporters of the Populares. In your case, you served Gaius Julius Caesar during the Gallic Wars, and have recently secured the coveted title of Praetor. Despite this rank and the traditional benefits that go with it, your true strength lies in cooperation with your brother. In times of crisis like these, you are one of the few men in Rome who knows that he has an ally he can rely upon. Your odds of emerging from this political storm are surely far greater if you work together.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Amicitia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laelius_de_Amicitia): Over the years, you have developed a very close friendship with another Senator. You share a strong bond and are truly amici in the finest traditions of Roman society. You know that this Senator holds the same political beliefs as you and you are confident that if you work together, you will both have a better chance of surviving this crisis, regardless of the course that you chart through it. You know the identity of another Populares Faction Senator, and he knows yours. That Senator is your brother, Lucius Aemilius Lepidus Paullus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Aemilius_Lepidus_Paullus) (Paullus) – Iskander 3.1.

My role pm, I will leave it up to Iskander to decide if he wants to post his.

[Greyblades]

Lucius Munatius Plancus
I looked it up and a person with that name did exist at that period as a senitor and seeing as I dont think split is cunning enough to actually have come up with a name that actually belonged to anyone(no offence) I'll Unvote: Split. even if LG kills me I wont kill another Populares.
Seeing as Pompey is dead and now the joint mafia win for the populares isn't obtainable I would advise that you look at suspicion at anyone who votes for a confirmed Populares.

[Iskander 3.1]

My role PM (I don't remember how to do spoiler alerts, sorry):

“The shifts of Fortune test the reliability of friends.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, "De Amicitia"

Lucius Aemilius Lepidus Paullus (Paullus)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

Your father was a controversial man, in the best traditions of Rome. He supported Lucius Cornelius Sulla while he was Dictator, but quickly turned on him once he retired from public life and dedicated himself to the Populares cause. His consulship was… eventful… to put it kindly, but the children of powerful exiles are still the children of powerful men.

Both you and your brother, Marcus Aemilius Lepidus, have followed in your father’s footsteps as supporters of the Populares. In your case, you have followed the cursus honorum, as Quaestor in 59 BC, Aedile in 55 BC, Praetor in 53 BC, and finally as Consul in 50 BC. You owe Gaius Julius Caesar a great deal, but your experience and titles allow you the freedom to lend your strong support to the Republic, if you so choose. In addition, despite your high prestige, your true strength lies in cooperation with your brother. In times of crisis like these, you are one of the few men in Rome who knows that he has an ally he can rely upon. Your odds of emerging from this political storm are surely far greater if you work together.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Amicitia: Over the years, you have developed a very close friendship with another Senator. You share a strong bond and are truly amici in the finest traditions of Roman society. You know that this Senator holds the same political beliefs as you and you are confident that if you work together, you will both have a better chance of surviving this crisis, regardless of the course that you chart through it. You know the identity of another Populares Faction Senator, and he knows yours. That Senator is your brother, Marcus Aemilius Lepidus (Lepidus) – johnhughthom.



By the way, according to history, my brother will later sentence me to death...

[johnhughthom]

By the way, according to history, my brother will later sentence me to death...

Phew, glad I deleted my fratricide special ability.:eyebrows:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So, we have the following suspects:

- splitpersonality;
- Beefy187;
- Iskander 3.1;
- johnhughthom;
- LittleGrizzly.

I think splitpersonality should be lynched today; that role pm is obviously fake. LittleGrizzly should be last on our priority list, I don't think he's guilty but would start to feel very uncomfortable if he stayed alive until endgame. If LG would be mafia, then Sasaki is probably guilty as well.

Lynch split today and vig kill at least one of Beefy, Iskander and johnhughthom, make sure the other(s) are tied in a group action.


I would to share what I know Andres, but I can't. Let's just say there is reason enough to believe that the pompeiins are dead, enough to leave beefy for today. And split as you remember used his protection last night--which means he could not have attacked AggonyDuck.

John has not been in groups most of this game, and as was stated on the last page the one night he claims he appeared in the attack vs littleGrizzly is the night Iskander skipped out of my group with the excuse that he "forgot to include the names of his partners" ~:rolleyes:

I can't share what leads me to eliminate most of the others as possibilities, so I'll just say that john is the top choice for today.

And remember, mafia almost certainly have cover role pm's.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote Count:

splitpersonality: 3(littlegrizzly, greyblades, splitpersonality)
Iskander: 2(Khaan,Jolt)
johnhughthom: 1(TheFlax)
abstain (marshal)

Hmm, I don't want to get into a situation like yesterday where we were scrambling for a vote switch at the last minute. So let's lynch Iskander instead of john. Six of one half a dozen of the other.

[TheFlax]

Unvote, Vote: Iskander

[Iskander 3.1]

And yet my actions for the last 2 nights were still accounted for. Sasaki, did you ever realize that you might be wrong? You've been lynching innocents left and right for this entire game.

[Greyblades]

Vote: Beefy

[Splitpersonality]

Unvote

What times does this phase end?

I'm so off on times right now (but who cares, I'm done with finals! whoo!)

[johnhughthom]

Vote:Beefy

[Iskander 3.1]

Vote: Beefy

[johnhughthom]

What times does this phase end?



7:30pm EST.

[Splitpersonality]

I've got 7 hours then to come up with a legitimate reason to vote someone.

I'll stay at Vote:Abstain for now, but I shall be back.

[TinCow]

As noted several times before, vote changes made without unvoting will not be counted.

[Iskander 3.1]

Just to be on the safe side:

Unvote; Vote: Beefy

[Greyblades]

Im sure I had unvoted earlier but to be safe, Unvote: whoever, Vote: Beefy

[johnhughthom]

I'll join the party,

Unvote; Vote:beefy

[Andres]

Why Beefy over split?

Compare Igno's role pm:



Fo everyone to see, here is my role pm:

“Treat your friend as if he might become an enemy.”
- Publilius Syrus

Tiberius Claudius Nero (Tiberius Nero)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

The gens Claudius are nearly as old as the Republic itself, and you are a prime example of their aristocratic heritage. Your father was an ally of Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus and took a strong stand against Lucius Sergius Catilina’s failed Populares uprising. Everything you have been taught, and everything that you are, is a conservative and an Optimates in the finest traditions of Old Rome. Yet, you have always admired Gaius Julius Caesar. The man is charismatic and friendly to those who would be his friends, including you. More than once has he extended a kind word when it was unnecessary, or voiced support for you in the Senate when it was of no benefit to him. You know that there would be worse things in the world than Caesar as Dictator.

Should you wish it, you could cross over to the Populares at any time; Caesar’s blessing would surely be enough to convince all of his followers to accept you. Then again, you could also aid the dying Republic. There are few in Rome who possess your unique political flexibility, and it will allow you the freedom to chart your own course, going wherever the winds of fortune take you.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Damnatio Memoriae: Despite your long-standing ties to the Optimates, there has always been a part of you that has sympathized with the ideals of the Populares. Unlike most Senators, you are capable of crossing over to the other side and convincing them that the shift was sincere. Of course, such an action would only be believable once. You can switch your allegiance to the Populares at any time, but you cannot switch back. This will permanently change your role and victory conditions to those of a Populares Senator.


with split:


“Think to yourself that every day is your last; the hour to which you do not look forward will come as a welcome surprise.”
- Quintus Horatius Flaccus

Lucius Munatius Plancus (Plancus)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

You served in Caesar’s legions well and ably during the Gallic Wars. A veteran of glorious combat with powerful friends in the Senate, it was only a matter of time before you became a Senator yourself. With you long-standing friendship with both Gaius Julius Caesar and Marcus Antonius, your allegiance to the Populares has never been in question. However, you are a flexible man and know that loyalties can change over time, given the right circumstances. You are free to support the Caesarians or the Republic as you see fit.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Villa Stronghold: You are a wealthy man and own a fine villa which you have designed for security as well as comfort. Your guards are loyal and will fight to the death to protect you. So long as you remain inside your fortress home, you will be difficult to kill. You can survive one successful attack if you are inactive on the night of the attack.

If you guys are not going to lynch splitpersonality today, then I strongly suggest he gets vig killed tonight.

Cover roles for mafia are possible, but it's not unusual for mafia to tweak their cover roles to explain somoething. I did it in the Settlement, mafia had cover roles too, but I modified mine anyway; in fact, I made two tweaked cover roles: one "townie" cover role to reveal as townie and one "serial killer" cover role to explain scummy activities in case of a guilty result by a detective, to avoid detection of a connection with fellow mafiosi) and shlin28 did it in Swords in the Moon.

There's something wrong with split's cover pm. I've made quite a few fake role pm's and I think I can say this one smells fishy. Protection for mafiosi is not unlikely, so I think he tweaked his cover pm to explain the protection.

EDIT: If he's able to protect himself, then we should definitely lynch him instead of vig killing, because organising 2 vigilante groups to break through his protection is bound to fail.

[Splitpersonality]

What it says about our factions are clearly two different tones and ways of saying things.

You can't compare "Loyalties will change" with "At anytime you can switch factions"

I'm sorry, if Tincow meant for me to be able to switch factions, he would've outright said that.

[ULC]

Split PM is fine as far as I can tell, a bit short, but his ability is exactly like mine, word for word.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

And yet my actions for the last 2 nights were still accounted for. Sasaki, did you ever realize that you might be wrong? You\'ve been lynching innocents left and right for this entire game.

No, at least 3 mafia have been lynched, possibly 4. And as for you being innocent, you just conveniently proved that you aren\'t :laugh4:

You guys don\'t have the numbers to outvote the optimates, not to mention that you can\'t rely on all of your populares comrades to kneel down and kiss caesars boots...

Iskander and John are most likely caesar and his remaining legate.

[TinCow]

Due to the forum issues, this day phase is extended. I'll decide when to end it after the forums start working again.

:wall:

[Caius]

Vote:abstain

I'll make one side away from the road so I don't get crushed by the bandwagon incoming.

[TinCow]

I am going to be away on a backpacking trip from Saturday morning through Sunday afternoon. At the time I scheduled this, I expected the game to be long over by this weekend. However, the two episodes of forum problems have thrown a massive wrench into the works and completely screwed up my schedule. Until yesterday, I expected to be able to finish the current day phase and the next night phase before I left, thus making my absense a simple 36 hour day phase. Unfortunately, this second forum seizure has destroyed that plan as well. I don't want to leave the game stuck in a night phase, so I am going to have to extend the current day phase until Sunday afternoon. I'm very sorry about this, but there was no way for me to predict this stuff when I organized the trip over a month ago. I have no idea exactly when I will be back on Sunday, so I will refrain from specificying a specific time for the phase to end. However, by that point there will surely have been enough time for people to make up their minds about how they want to vote, so I will end the phase as soon as I get back on Sunday, whenever that is.

[johnhughthom]

No worries TC, enjoy the trip.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hmm, I wonder if TC anticipated the forum taking this long to open.

[TinCow]

Amusingly, I just got back from the trip. Since the forums appear to have just re-opened, I'll give it until early evening before I end the phase. There were only a few hours left when it crashed, so I think ending it between about 5-6pm will be fair.

[Splitpersonality]

Vote: Beefy

[TinCow]

Alright, let's put an end to this most miserable of day phases.

[TinCow]

“Delay not; swift the flight of fortune's greatest favours."
- Lucius Annaeus Seneca

https://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1703/maccaricicero.jpg

The Senate session was long and heated, but just as things were coming to a head, a shadow appeared over the sun. Every man, woman, and child in Roman cried out in fear and ran for their lives. Inside the Curia, the Senators could do nothing but gape in awe at the spectacle. It seemed to last an eternity, but eventually the shadow passed and light returned to the world. When at last some of the men regained their composure, none could remember what they had previously been talking about.

It was at that point that an older man in a fine, white toga stood up and gave a summary of everything that had previously occurred. He kindly summarized who everyone else had voted for and why. When he got to Greyblades, he indicated that he had lodged a vote for Iskander 3.1. Greyblades scratched his head quizzically. "Eh, actually, I think I voted for...[/B], he began, but the man soon cut him off. "Nonsense! Only an imbecile would do something like that, and since you're not an imbecile, you must not have done it. No, in fact I remember your persuasive arguments against Iskander 3.1 very well. You most certainly made a wise and educated argument against him!" Greyblades shrugged his shoulders, "Well, if you say so, I suppose I did intend to vote for Iskander 3.1."

When the votes were finally tallied, Iskander 3.1 was in the lead by a single vote. He looked about him, mainly focusing on his fellow Populares. He sighed deeply and shook his head. "So, this is what is to become of Rome then? Sad... sad indeed." He strode out into the Curia, boldly confronting the bloody fate which soon engulfed him.

Iskander 3.1: 4 (khaan, Jolt, TheFlax, Greyblades)
Beefy187: 3 (johnhughthom, Iskander, Split)
spl1tp350naL1ty: 1 (LG)

Abstain: 2 (Marshal Murat, Caius)

Not Voting: 3 (Beefy187, Khazaar, Ignoramus)

Alive (12):
Beefy187
Greyblades
LittleGrizzly
johnhughthom
Shinseikhaan
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Khazaar
Jolt
Marshal Murat
Ignoramus
TheFlax
Caius

Killed (14):
White_eyes:D
mini
Beskar
Yaropolk
pevergreen
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
Andres
woad&fangs
Sasaki Kojiro
Askthepizzaguy
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Ichigo
AggonyDuck

Proscripted (10):
navarro951
Tiberius of the Drake
Cronos Impera
Cultured Drizzt fan
YLC
Atheotes
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Tratorix
Iskander 3.1

WoG/Suicide (1):
everyone

It is now Night XI. This night phase will end on Monday, June 7th at 7:00pm EST.

(Note: Despite what I said before, I have refrained from WoGing Beefy because the chaos caused by the forum implosion provides a reasonable excuse for missing a vote here.)

[Iskander 3.1]

Evil vote switchers...

[Sasaki Kojiro]

:laugh4: :laugh4:

Now tonight we can vig kill john...

[Greyblades]

There was no way in heck that I was intending to vote iskander... ugh forget it.

[johnhughthom]

There was no way in heck that I was intending to vote iskander... ugh forget it.

I know it's a bit frustrating but it's part of the game, it's probably worked for and against everyone involved so far. I guess it's easy for me to say as my vote change didn't effect anything.
I guess it leaves me as a target for tonight. Unless the rest of the players look at Sasaki's reasons for me (and Iskander) being under suspicion and realise how feeble (non-existant) they are. I haven't played many mafia games but I find it bizarre how so many people allow somebody who is "dead" to control how they play.

[Beefy187]

(Note: Despite what I said before, I have refrained from WoGing Beefy because the chaos caused by the forum implosion provides a reasonable excuse for missing a vote here.)

I only managed to access the Org now..
Sorry anyway.

[Greyblades]

I know it's a bit frustrating but it's part of the game, it's probably worked for and against everyone involved so far. I guess it's easy for me to say as my vote change didn't effect anything.
I guess it leaves me as a target for tonight. Unless the rest of the players look at Sasaki's reasons for me (and Iskander) being under suspicion and realise how feeble (non-existant) they are. I haven't played many mafia games but I find it bizarre how so many people allow somebody who is "dead" to control how they play.
I dont have a problem with the method, I mean a vote switch is a valid and understandable ability for a mafia game, I have a problem with the execution. It depicts me saying: "I suppose I did intend to vote for Iskander 3.1." In reality I thought he was a populares and I had apsolutely no intention to kill off a teammate.

[Jolt]

In reality I thought he was a populares and I had apsolutely no intention to kill off a teammate.

Why, aren't Optimates your teammates? Since that is so, it makes sense Cicero killed off your "teammate".

[Greyblades]

I meant team mate as in, the same faction with the exact same victory conditions.

[Iskander 3.1]

Vote switching is part of the game so that I can live with (even though I died). The .org being down is what was most frustrating, since not everyone was able to get their vote in in time.

I think khaan may be the Cicero.

[TinCow]

The .org being down is what was most frustrating, since not everyone was able to get their vote in in time.

The day phase was almost done when the org went down. While I certainly understand that many probably did not check the forums in the time between when it came back up and when I closed the day phase, I already gave the game several hours longer than it really had left. At the time of the forum problems, there were 3 hours left; after it came back up, I gave it 7 hours before closing it. That seemed reasonable to me at the time and it still does. I've already delayed this game several times and I don't want to keep doing so out of respect for the other hosts who are waiting for this game to end so that they can start their own up. I am very hopeful that we will be able to sustain 24 hour phases for the rest of the game without further interruption.

[Jolt]

Vote switching is part of the game so that I can live with (even though I died). The .org being down is what was most frustrating, since not everyone was able to get their vote in in time.

I think khaan may be the Cicero.

One thing is certain. It is the second time in a row that Cicero saves beefy from impending doom. Since apparently beefy is Optimates, if Cicero really is Mafia, then he must be one of the Optimates. I would bet that beefy is Cicero.

[Iskander 3.1]

That's fine TC, I'm not blaming you at all and if I were running the game I'd want to get things moving as quickly as possible too. I think what happened is just frustrating for everyone.

[TinCow]

“It is when fortune is the most propitious that she is least to be trusted.”
- Titus Livius

https://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8993/imagem25l.jpg

As the night grew dark, many Senators sat in their villas, afraid of what fortune might bring their way. Yet as the hours crept past without incident they slowly relaxed and began to forget their worries. Soon wine and music both flowed freely in the dwellings of Rome. When dawn broke, no unusual incidents of any kind were reported within the city limits. Could this be so? Was this the end of the chaos? Had the issue finally been settled once and for all?

As the Senators filed into the Curia in the morning, a note nailed to the doors was all the answer they needed:



I am as constant as the northern star.

Alive (12):
Beefy187
Greyblades
LittleGrizzly
johnhughthom
Shinseikhaan
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Khazaar
Jolt
Marshal Murat
Ignoramus
TheFlax
Caius

Killed (14):
White_eyes:D
mini
Beskar
Yaropolk
pevergreen
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
Andres
woad&fangs
Sasaki Kojiro
Askthepizzaguy
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Ichigo
AggonyDuck

Proscripted (10):
navarro951
Tiberius of the Drake
Cronos Impera
Cultured Drizzt fan
YLC
Atheotes
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Tratorix
Iskander 3.1

WoG/Suicide (1):
Everyone

It is now Day XI. You may begin voting. This day phase will end on Tuesday, June 9th at 7:00pm EST.

[Splitpersonality]

Huh, that's odd...

[johnhughthom]

Interesting....

Vote:beefy

[Greyblades]

Huh...
Vote: beefy

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Time to lynch johnhughthom...

You guys really trying your "lynch the enemy optimates" strategy still? ~D

[Beefy187]

Lurking mafia= Beefy?

I was around all day yesterday. It would've been easy for me to send in orders.

Do I sense a "Hey lets not kill anyone and blame it on Beefy" tactic?
I've been on the verge of lynch for couple days now. Not once have I voted for other candidate to save my self..
I may be grouped with Cicero.. But I hate him for what he did in the past..

[Greyblades]

You have been saved from being lynched for 2 turns now by a probable ceaser supporter. Assuming that cicero is a mafia he wouldn't have saved you unless you were either mafia or even cicero himself, either way someone made us kill a townie instead of you for 2 turns now. Sorry mate but I dont see anyone else as suspicious as you.

[Splitpersonality]

VOTE: BEEFY

A SOUND ARGUMENT

Damn camps lock... Not retyping too tired.

[LittleGrizzly]

Time to reveal the truth perhaps... or at least one part of it...

Beefy you are being voted for by the small group not because they think your mafia but because they think/now your an optimate... they have decided to go for victory condition (2)

The group is/was

Iskander
Johnhugh
Split
Greyblades

In fairness split was the least enthusiastic of the group... if this was a cover or he genuinely wasn't sure about the group... i don't know...

Isk was the one who approached me originially, then i got him to reveal his brother john and then they decided to use beefy as a target and as far as i know that is when they approached grey and split...

Of course the last bit could have been set out for me... i wasn't sure to what level they didn't trust me but they did reveal both of themselves when i gave a positive response...

This does make the 2 brothers top candidates...

Less sure about split because he was defending himself when there was a kill and grey because he was attacking split when there was a kill...

Beefy seen as they are out to kill you just because your an optimate how about joining us in....

Vote Johnhughthom

After we lynch John and clear some other people i don't think were far off...

Sorry for the betrayal....

[Splitpersonality]

You've got quite teh balls to sell us all out LG.

Not to seem like I'm really very enthusiastic about it.

Maybe you're Caeser, trying to turn us on our heads?

[Greyblades]

Eh?

[LittleGrizzly]

I'd like to take back what i said about split, and grey was enthusiastic in pm's about the group, i had no response from split. The night action clears them slightly though, possibly just senators going for victory condition (2) still a threat to the republic though..

[Splitpersonality]

So you're saying I was enthusiastic about it?

Unvote

[Greyblades]

What the smeg is going on?

[LittleGrizzly]

Well you did seem a little enthusiastic about voting beefy this round....

Edit: Greyblades split has admitted it theres no point you denying it...

[Greyblades]

That was because he's been saved by cicero for 2 turns now and I didnt have anyone else to go on. That and i'm still a bit bitter about the whole "used my vote to kill a faction mate" thing.

..Oh wait you were talking to split weren't you?

[Splitpersonality]

I have no evidence of anything else, might as well?

I'm entirely apathetic about things, lol.

I didn't confirm anything... I wasn't too enthusiastic about voting though.

[LittleGrizzly]

I was talking to split about voting beefy.

Its more i felt you seemed fairly enthusiastic about voting beefy... you did seem the least enthusiastic out of the group though...

[Splitpersonality]

What am I to do?

If there is a group of some sort, they would surely attack me if I did not help them.

Hypothetically.

[johnhughthom]

So basically the fact that Iskander and I were going for an Optimates victory is the reason you betrayed us LG? I was expecting it anyway to be honest. The main reason I agreed with the policy was that I am cynical about the Pompeians being gone, if there was only one left not posting messages and having a dead mafia pretend you're all gone seems like a fine strategy.
I'm surprised I survived the night, what happened?

[Greyblades]

I was talking to split about voting beefy.

Its more i felt you seemed fairly enthusiastic about voting beefy... you did seem the least enthusiastic out of the group though...

I've been supicious of beefy after the rest of town at one point wanted to kill me over, who was in my veiw, an allmost blatantly scummy lurker and cicero saving him twice just seemed to support it.

As for the group, well, I don't give a toss about whether or not I get the town or populares victory, in the end its still a win, it just seemed like a good idea to get into a group that could help bail me out of being lynched in the near future. :shrug:

[johnhughthom]

I would just like to point something out to those sceptical of the role pms Iskander and I posted. We both had the role of famous Romans, especially me, who were brothers. My character was close to Caesar, but there were others much closer, and my brother would never have been seen as a candidate for a Caesarian. If we were actually other Casaerians who used fake role pms we would never have used the characters we did in case somebody else in play was actually the Lepidus brothers.

[Splitpersonality]

Maybe the mafia have unique roles as well?

[Tratorix]

Maybe the mafia have unique roles as well?

Everyone has a unique role.

[johnhughthom]

Maybe the mafia have unique roles as well?

I don't get your point, please elaborate.

[Splitpersonality]

I mean, maybe that's the perfect disguise for caeser.

Like, your cover role PMs are like no one else's role PMs.

Maybe the perfect disguise is that of two people who would noramlly be very close to caeser.

Just playing devil's advocate.

[johnhughthom]

I have to admit I haven't played many mafia games, are cover role pms for mafia normal? Doesn't seem very fair if they are...
Still my point stands, Lepidus was a very famous Roman and if there were cover role pms given out, it seems unlikely he would be wasted on that.

[Beefy187]

Everyone has a unique role.

Different name yes, different ability, not quite.

Few players are seen to have a same ability. So not everyone is unique.

Also the argument claiming Cicero being mafia is... Argh.
Historically speaking, Cicero would be the last person to join either Optimates or Caesarian.

I know I am innocent, and I get a feeling this is not time to pursuit my philosophy of "proving my innocence with noble death.AKA not voting for others." We are approaching the final few rounds. And there is no time to lose by getting my self lynched.

Vote: Johnhughthom

[Tratorix]

Different name yes, different ability, not quite.

Few players are seen to have a same ability. So not everyone is unique.

Also the argument claiming Cicero being mafia is... Argh.
Historically speaking, Cicero would be the last person to join either Optimates or Caesarian.

I know I am innocent, and I get a feeling this is not time to pursuit my philosophy of "proving my innocence with noble death.AKA not voting for others." We are approaching the final few rounds. And there is no time to lose by getting my self lynched.

Vote: Johnhughthom

He's not voting for himself, get him! :laugh4:

[Beefy187]

He's not voting for himself, get him! :laugh4:

Never!!
No Beefsteak for mafia scums!

[Tratorix]

Never!!
No Beefsteak for mafia scums!

You think you won't end up lynched before the game is over? It is inevitable.

[Splitpersonality]

Sadly beefy probably will die before this game ends.

*Insert "I drink your beefshake" pun here*

[Iskander 3.1]

Everyone has a unique role.

Barney the Dinosaur told me I was unique, just like everyone else.

[Beefy187]

You think you won't end up lynched before the game is over? It is inevitable.

Unless the mafia gangs up on me... Never!!

As for me dying.. Sadly that is very likely... I can't even recall the last game I was alive

[TheFlax]

Vote: johnhughthom

Beefy must be preserved. :laugh4:

[Splitpersonality]

Vote: Beefy for the tie.

Why must he be preserved?

[TheFlax]

Vote: Beefy for the tie.

Why must he be preserved?

Personal reasons. :embarassed:

[Splitpersonality]

WIFOM, joy!

So either you do it c ause he's caeser and you're his loyal guy.

or you do it because you don't want a victory for him being killed.

or something else I'm missing.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

WIFOM, joy!

So either you do it c ause he's caeser and you're his loyal guy.

.

He was investigated and found to be optimates (by john and iskander). We have cultured drizzt, atheotes, and tratorix down as the pompeiins...slim possibility that cultured made it up imo...he would have had to be in league with them as a regular senator somehow.

[Splitpersonality]

Maybe they're both the same faction?

Maybe then we shouldn't cop out and go for a faction victory... hm...

I don't really want to kill jung either though, I'm not too convinced he's caeser...

[TheFlax]

or something else I'm missing.

Bingo! Can't I have out of game reasons, a part being sure he is innocent?

Also, is not going for a faction victory something bad?

[Splitpersonality]

I didn't say it was bad, a faction victory would simply be quicker right now.

PROBABLY not in the greatest interests of the republic...

[ULC]

*watches the game intently, waiting for the dramatic conclusion*

...

*gets some popcorn*

[seireikhaan]

For the time being, I shall Vote: Abstain

Beefy, John, persuade me as to why you should be the one alive.

[Beefy187]

Maybe they're both the same faction?

Maybe then we shouldn't cop out and go for a faction victory... hm...

I don't really want to kill jung either though, I'm not too convinced he's caeser...

Like L needs Lighto, Batman needs Joker, Pompey needs Caesar and Scipio needs Hannibal... With TheFlax and only TheFlax can Beefy be completed.

I should be the one alive because Split said I'm Caesar and TheFlax is my loyal guy. When I am Optimates, and we don't even know if Pompeiians are dead.. So I say Split is clearly hiding something.

I am just going to vote for John for my live preservation and I'll be honest that I don't have anything against John other then the reason "Sasaki and LG said so"

I have been following orders like protect such and such, investigate such and such whenever I can, and I seem to be relatively active.

Also, post game won't be fun without me alive, because without Beefy, partying will not involve tieing someone up on a tree for fun thus it will be less enjoyable for everyone.

[Andres]

He was investigated and found to be optimates (by john and iskander). We have cultured drizzt, atheotes, and tratorix down as the pompeiins...slim possibility that cultured made it up imo...he would have had to be in league with them as a regular senator somehow.

And you're sure the mafia can't recruit?

A known consul or praetor in the middle of the townie network seems like the perfect recruit to me...

No Pompeian propaganda messages doesn't mean all Pompeians are gone.

[Jolt]

Ooo, teh drama. LG revealed a group in which Cicero actually killed a townie going for Mafia victory. And now Caesar is virtually powerless it seems. Awesome.

Since that is so, we shall have to rip apart the group since *check last day*, yeah they all unvoted Split and all voted on beefy. Apparently since Pompey is dead, they have little reason to vote for an Optimates but to win a Cesarian victory.

Vote: johnhughtom


PROBABLY not in the greatest interests of the republic...

EDIT: That's why most PROBABLY you'll be lynched next day. You or Greyblades.


No Pompeian propaganda messages doesn't mean all Pompeians are gone.

I also think that. Pompey must be hiding. At least those who insist on murdering all Optimates won't do that for much longer. First, they no longer have the necessary numbers to vig kill anyone. Second, with Isk and john dead, Greyblades and Split can't turn their hands upside down, how much more a Senate vote. And if Cicero is Pro-Town, (As it now appears once again), he'll just vote change one of them to the other, basically rendering any of their votes useless.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

what does no one believe I am Pompey? that hurts guys, it really does.

[Jolt]

what does no one believe I am Pompey? that hurts guys, it really does.

Unless Pompey was a zombie who posted messages in the Senate even after you was dead, then no.

[Khazaar]

Beefy seems to be genuinly willing to defend the republic. The last night seems to indicate that the Mafia is severely weakened, maybe the Pompeiians are out, maybe not. We only know for a fact that Caesar is still around.

Therefore: Vote: johnhughtom

[Ignoramus]

Vote: Beefy

[Greyblades]

EDIT: That's why most PROBABLY you'll be lynched next day. You or Greyblades.
:sigh: Can't you lot just investigate me and split tonight and get it over with?

[Jolt]

EDIT: That's why most PROBABLY you'll be lynched next day. You or Greyblades.
:sigh: Can't you lot just investigate me and split tonight and get it over with?

Does it even matter? We already know you are probably Populares or Caesarian, and it is irrelevant, as you were actively attempting to lynch Optimates townies to achieve a Mafia victory.

[Greyblades]

No I was trying to lynch beefy who I have thought was one of ceaser's henchmen since from before I even heared of the group.

[Jolt]

Wait, so let me get this straight. You thought beefy was one of Caesar's Legates. Then you are contacted by Isk/john/Split and they tell you beefy isn't Caesarian or even Populares as you thought, but that he is really Optimates, and that regardless if he is townie or Mafia, you should all kill him, and you say "ok, sure."

That being so, I wonder what does it matter that you thought he was a legate in the beginning of the game?

EDIT: Oh, no wonder you had said Iskander was your team mate. Just recalled that.

[Beefy187]

Most of you who voted for me havn't got any reasons..

Am I right to judge you as a scum? Or at least very very lazy town?

[Greyblades]

@Jolt: Firstly they never once actually said the he wasnt ceasar's lackey just that they thought he was optimate. Secondly I didn't realy trust them much anyhow so I didn't take their word at face value and I didnt care about their goals, they wanted the same guy lynched as me at the time, and they seemed willing to help me out if I helped them, so I went along with it. So yes, I said "ok sure" or more accurately "right".

Lastly I dont even know what legate realy means so I cant say that I thought he was one at the start as you claim.

Unvote: beefy

[johnhughthom]

I have already explained why I can't be Caesar, I guess it's up to you to decide if you believe the reasoning. I see most of you are assuming Pompey actually is dead. I don't believe he is, I think he has no lackeys left alive and is trying to lurk his way to a shock victory. You know, I almost hope he pulls it off...

[Andres]

I think it's time to look into LittleGrizzly a bit closer.

How many suspects have we left?

3?: Beefy, Greyblades, johnhughthom ?

I think it would be unwise to make a list of people to lynch and stick to that. You need to keep all options open.

EDIT: I'm getting a bad feeling about how town is just blindly following the lead of Sasaki and his puppet, LittleGrizzly. This is going all too easy and smooth.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think it's time to look into LittleGrizzly a bit closer.

How many suspects have we left?

3?: Beefy, Greyblades, johnhughthom ?

I think it would be unwise to make a list of people to lynch and stick to that. You need to keep all options open.


No, you need to use occam's razor. It's no good lynching someone based on the assumption that mafia can recruit. It's better to lynch someone for, say, organizing a populares group to get rid of the optimates and being one of the few inactive people the night aggonyduck was killed.

[johnhughthom]

I'm getting a bad feeling about how town is just blindly following the lead of Sasaki and his puppet, LittleGrizzly. This is going all too easy and smooth.

Been mentioned more than once, I can only assume the majority of players are too lazy to think for themselves.

[Andres]

No, you need to use occam's razor. It's no good lynching someone based on the assumption that mafia can recruit. It's better to lynch someone for, say, organizing a populares group to get rid of the optimates and being one of the few inactive people the night aggonyduck was killed.

At the moment, we assume having sufficient numbers to afford a couple more mistakes.

But there's no harm in keeping all options open.

Besides, my calculations using ultra secret methods teach me that the probability that Sasaki will turn to the Dark Side in a game where he has the opportunity to do so is 99,9 % :snobby:

Of course, one could argue that I'm not good at math and that it should be 100 % instead of 99,9 % :smash:

This post would carry more weight if smileys would work.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I have already explained why I can't be Caesar, I guess it's up to you to decide if you believe the reasoning. I see most of you are assuming Pompey actually is dead. I don't believe he is, I think he has no lackeys left alive and is trying to lurk his way to a shock victory. You know, I almost hope he pulls it off...

It's standard for mafia to be given cover role pm's. Otherwise on day one everyone could post their role pm and we could lynch the people whose role pm's looked fake. Or right now everyone could post their role pm and we could lynch the ones that look fake.

You keep claiming that your role pm means you are innocent but have you ever asked beefy for his?

[Andres]

It's standard for mafia to be given cover role pm's. Otherwise on day one everyone could post their role pm and we could lynch the people whose role pm's looked fake. Or right now everyone could post their role pm and we could lynch the ones that look fake.

You keep claiming that your role pm means you are innocent but have you ever asked beefy for his?

Maybe he didn't bother, since nobody considers his role pm as sufficient evidence of his innocence... *** green balloon ***

[Sasaki Kojiro]

At the moment, we assume having sufficient numbers to afford a couple more mistakes.

But there's no harm in keeping all options open.

We do have sufficient numbers, not an assumption. Unless you assume the mafia have a "kill 10 people at night" special ability and decided not to use it last night.


Besides, my calculations using ultra secret methods teach me that the probability that Sasaki will turn to the Dark Side in a game where he has the opportunity to do so is 99,9 % :snobby:


There was 0% chance this game of me going for the partisan "victory". Wouldn't feel like winning, and I usually enjoy being town more than mafia these days.

[johnhughthom]

You keep claiming that your role pm means you are innocent but have you ever asked beefy for his?

I haven't ever said that beefy was mafia, I was simply going for a Populares victory based on the fact that there are fewer Optimates. You can look at that whatever way you want, but it certainly doesn't make me mafia, just somebody looking for a quick victory.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Maybe he didn't bother, since nobody considers his role pm as sufficient evidence of his innocence... *** green balloon ***

But he does, so why wouldn't he check and see if his suspect can clear himself as far as he's concerned? Given the fact that john and iskanders group is the main source of votes on beefy, your comment makes no sense.

[Jolt]

I think its odd you, john, are attacking Sasaki the day after he pressed for Isk's lynch, when it is proven you and Isk were about to lynch Optimate beefy for no other reason than to go for a Mafia victory. So he helped the town kill a Mafia townie. You on the other hand, have been proven as a Mafia townie, so your credibility is 0.

[Jolt]

I haven't ever said that beefy was mafia, I was simply going for a Populares victory based on the fact that there are fewer Optimates.

This = instalynch.

[johnhughthom]

This = instalynch.

I know.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

@Jolt: Firstly they never once actually said the he wasnt ceasar's lackey just that they thought he was optimate. Secondly I didn't realy trust them much anyhow so I didn't take their word at face value and I didnt care about their goals, they wanted the same guy lynched as me at the time, and they seemed willing to help me out if I helped them, so I went along with it. So yes, I said "ok sure" or more accurately "right".

Lastly I dont even know what legate realy means so I cant say that I thought he was one at the start as you claim.

Unvote: beefy

Sounds a bit like bs to me...if you hadn't been active a couple nights ago...


I haven't ever said that beefy was mafia, I was simply going for a Populares victory based on the fact that there are fewer Optimates. You can look at that whatever way you want, but it certainly doesn't make me mafia, just somebody looking for a quick victory.

You just confessed to being mafia.

Really. If you're working for the mafia then you are either one of the original mafia or a senator who has joined the mafia.

[Andres]

There was 0% chance this game of me going for the partisan "victory". Wouldn't feel like winning, and I usually enjoy being town more than mafia these days.

You're getting old *grin*

[TinCow]

For ease of reference, tally as of post 1471:

johnhughthom: 5 (LG, Beefy187, TheFlax, Jolt, Khazaar)
Beefy187: 3 (johnhughthom, split, Ignoramus)

Abstain: 1 ('khaan)

[Splitpersonality]

Unvote:Beefy,

Vote:Abstain

John goes down today, probably no question about that. I have no reason, other than a quick victory for myself and nothing for the republic, to vote beefy any longer.

[Tratorix]

Unvote:Beefy,

Vote:Abstain

John goes down today, probably no question about that. I have no reason, other than a quick victory for myself and nothing for the republic, to vote beefy any longer.

This isn't going to save you, you know. You've proven yourself a threat and you and Greyblades will either die tonight or tomorrow.

[Splitpersonality]

Okay?

I've escaped death magically one time, I don't expect to again.

Despite the fact that I'm not mafia, or caeser, you can still lynch or kill me. Whittle it down some more! The less living senators in the curio the better eh? Less people to disagree with your totalitarian rulings.

[Tratorix]

Okay?

I've escaped death magically one time, I don't expect to again.

Despite the fact that I'm not mafia, or caeser, you can still lynch or kill me. Whittle it down some more! The less living senators in the curio the better eh? Less people to disagree with your totalitarian rulings.

Yes, soon I will be ruling you all from beyond the grave! Bow before your undead master! *evil smiley*

[Splitpersonality]

Haha, not you specifically :P

But yes, obviously to get to caeser I see we have to kep some poplares, or cesarians (I'm so bad at remembering which is which, the ones on pompey's side, is what I mean) alive so that the other side doesn't straight win.

God I feel so dumb being in this game

[Marshal Murat]

Vote:johnhughthom

LG seems to know what he's talking about, so I'm going with him.

[LittleGrizzly]

Firstly Andres I did not target these people because of thier faction, they were planning on killing (or lynching actually) a senator purely for the benefit of a faction victory over a victory for the republic. As a dead townie (you are right ?) surely you can see the problem with this, also they are suspects to be mafia. Actively seeking the faction victory condition is the straw that broke the camels back....

If you'll notice a few weeks back i was happy to lynch beefy off until some information came to light, im not sure if Beefy is completely cleared, personally i don't know if pompey is still alive or not.... if some information comes to light pointing to an optimates i will happily reveal that to...

The other suspicious thing which pointed suspicion at Iskander and John was the night they decided to investigate AggonyDuck he died, they came back with the wrong result on his faction as well....

That night greyblades was in group attacking split and split was at home defending himself...

So John is priority, greyblades or split may be able to be cleared by other methods...

[johnhughthom]

Well as it seems I am as good as gone, I think you should all look closer at split afterwards. He is the only person left I still have suspicions of.

[Splitpersonality]

I've already shown all that I can, if I'm to die for showing nothing more, then I'm to die because I HAVE nothing more.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The other suspicious thing which pointed suspicion at Iskander and John was the night they decided to investigate AggonyDuck he died, they came back with the wrong result on his faction as well....


Can you quote the pm's where they gave you the wrong result on duck? That's pretty solid evidence.

[TinCow]

FYI, a major storm is about to hit my area. Check out this weather warning:


THIS IS A DANGEROUS STORM. IF YOU ARE IN ITS PATH... PREPARE IMMEDIATELY FOR DAMAGING WINDS... DESTRUCTIVE HAIL... AND DEADLY CLOUD TO GROUND LIGHTNING. PEOPLE OUTSIDE SHOULD MOVE TO A SHELTER... PREFERABLY INSIDE A STRONG BUILDING BUT AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

This is due to pass by around the time the day phase ends. If I don't end it prompty at the proper time, it probably means I've lost power and can't get on the internet. If so, I'll end the day as soon as I an.

[johnhughthom]

Solid evidence in what way? It might only mean AggonyDuck had lied about his faction to LG.



Woah, stay safe TC.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sweet! I'd ignore the advice and go outside for a bit if I were you. Just watch out for twigs flying into your eye. Big storms are awesome.

[TinCow]

Weather warning says hail the size of nickels and wind at 70mph. Did I mention I have to commute home in this?

whee....

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Solid evidence in what way? It might only mean AggonyDuck had lied about his faction to LG.


So you didn't claim to have investigated AggonyDuck? Mind posting your result on him if you did? My tally of optimates vs populares was off by bit...

[Iskander 3.1]

Yikes, be safe!

[johnhughthom]

The result was pmed to LG, I think. If not I don't have it anymore, I deleted all the pms I thought irrelevant.

[TinCow]

Day XI is over, write-up commencing.

[ULC]

Weather warning says hail the size of nickels and wind at 70mph. Did I mention I have to commute home in this?

whee....

Wait aren't you just south of me in DC? How the heck are you getting hail o.O!?

[TinCow]

“Old age: the crown of life, our play's last act.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

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The relative serenity of the previous evening had emboldened the Senate. Despite the reputed note from Caesar, the restoration of order at last seemed to be a real possibility. Those who had weathered the crisis and emerged intact struck out viciously against those of their colleagues who were suspected of holding partisan views. The debate quickly focused on Beefy187 and johnhughthom.

At first, the accusations flew in both directions, but as the pressure mounted, johnhughthom’s friends began to abandon him. What was at first an even contest soon turned into a landslide. When the votes were finally tallied, johnhughthom sighed heavily. He bowed his head briefly in contemplation, then stood to address all in the Curia. “What you have done here today has doomed the Republic! You think that you have saved it, but you are wrong. Caesar crossed the Rubicon not to destroy Rome but to save it! The Republic has grown corrupt and the people clamor for reform.”

johnhughthom turned to face Jolt, “Will you give it to them? You claimed to uphold law and order with your accusations against Lucius Sergius Catiline, but then you executed him and his conspirators without a trial! Is this the way of the Republic? Those in power executing whom they please on a whim and without an opportunity to present a case in their own defense?! That is the way of Lucius Cornelius Sulla, not Lucius Junius Brutus. No, you are no true defender of Rome; you speak of upholding law, but you discard it whenever you feel it expedient!”

johnhughthom then turned to face Caius, “I would have to be a comic to place the word reform in the same sentence as your name! What do you care about except tradition and the Old Ways? You follow these as if they were the teachings of Jupiter Optimus Maximus himself, yet you ignore all of the evils that the ancient traditions have brought upon us! If Rome had always believed in upholding tradition, the Tarquinian Kings would rule us to this day! You pay homage to Lucius Junius Brutus, yet you are too stupid to realize that he was a revolutionary, a radical who overthrew the established order and created a better system! Change is not always an evil, sometimes can be good, and sometimes it is necessary. Your ways lead to stagnation, decay, and death.”

“As for the rest of you,” johnhughthom scowled at the remaining Senators, “you will see soon enough that this is not the end. All that you have done is prolonged the struggle. There are others who will take up arms to do what must be done to save Rome!” He turned back to Jolt and Caius, bowing low, “Might I have your permission, most honorable Senators, to address the public before I meet my end?” Jolt and Caius looked at each other briefly. What harm could a few words from a proscripted man do? They nodded in assent. With that, johnhughthom turned and strode out into the forum.

The crowd was baying for his blood, expecting another opportunity at enrichment. Boldly, johnhughthom walked to the rostra and raised his arms. He gestured, at them to let him speak, but it was no good. Suddenly, a disturbance began off to the side of the forum, and a procession of legionaries began to make their way forward, pushing through the crowd. Between them, they carried the body of Andres. At the sight of this, the mob began to hush, and soon they watched in silent awe as the body was brought to johnhughthom and placed on the rostra. With that, johnhughthom began to speak.

“Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears; I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him. The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones; So let it be with Caesar. The noble Cicero hath told you Caesar was ambitious: If it were so, it was a grievous fault and grievously has Caesar answered it.”

“Here under leave of Cicero and the rest --- for Cicero is an honorable man --- so are they all honorable men --- come I to speak in Caesar's funeral. He was my friend, faithful and just to me --- but Cicero says he was ambitious and Cicero is an honorable man.”

“He has brought many captives home to Rome whose ransoms did fill the general coffers. Did this in Caesar seem ambitious? When the poor have cried, Caesar has wept --- ambition should be made of sterner stuff. Yet Cicero says he was ambitious and Cicero is an honorable man. I speak not to disprove what Cicero spoke, but here I am to speak what I do know.”

“You all did love him once, not without cause. What cause witholds you then, to mourn for him now? Oh judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts and men have lost their reason. Bear with me. My heart is in the coffin here with Caesar and I must pause til it come back to me. But yesterday the word of Caesar might have stood against the world; now he lies there. And none so poor to do him reverence.”

“Oh masters, if I were disposed to stir your hearts and minds to mutiny and rage, I should do Cicero wrong, and Cato wrong, who, you all know, are honorable men. I will not do them wrong; I rather choose to wrong the dead, to wrong myself and you, than I will wrong such honorable men. But here's a parchment with the seal of Caesar --- I found it in his closet, 'tis his will: Let but the people hear this testament, which, pardon me, I do not mean to read, and they would go and kiss dead Caesar's wounds and dip their napkins in his sacred blood, yea, beg a hair of him for memory, and, dying, mention it within their wills, bequeathing it as a rich legacy unto their issue.”

The crowd had long ago grown quiet, their bloodlust sated by johnhughthom’s elegant words. Yet with the revelation of Caesar’s will, they found their voice again; pleading with johnhughthom to continue, to tell them of Caesar’s final wishes.

“Have patience, gentle friends, I must not read it; it is not right you know how Caesar loved you. You are not wood, you are not stones, but men; and, being men, bearing the will of Caesar, it will inflame you, it will make you mad! 'Tis good you know not that you are his heirs, for if you should, oh, what would come of it!”

johnhughthom made to stop, and turned away, but the mob screamed out for him. Slowly, he turned back towards them and continued, making obvious sidelong looks at the Curia.

“Will you be patient? Will you stay awhile? I have overshot myself to tell you of it. I fear the honorable men whose daggers have stabbed Caesar, I do fear it!”

With this, the crowed howled with violent anger, and the Senators watching from the steps of the Curia glanced warily at one another. This was not what they had expected from the proscription, not at all. johnhughthom continued.

“You will compel me, then to read the will? Then make a ring about the corpse of Caesar, and let me show you him that made the will. Shall I descend? And will you give me leave?”

The people responded with cheers. Descending from the rostra to stand amidst the people, johnhughthom continued his eulogy.

“If you have tears, prepare to shed them now. You all do know this coat --- I remember the first time Caesar put it on. 'Twas on a summer's evening, in his tent, that day he overcame the Huns.”

“Look --- in this place ran Ahenobarbus’ dagger through! See what a rent the envious Metellus Scipio made! Through this well-beloved Pompey stabbed, and as he plucked his cursed steel away, mark how the blood of Caesar followed it, as rushing out of doors, to be resolved if Pompey so unkindly knocked or no.

“For Pompey, as you know, was Caesar's friend and son in law --- judge, oh you gods, how dearly Caesar loved him! This was the most unkindest cut of all! For when the noble Caesar saw his stab, ingratitude, more strong than traitor's arms, quite vanquished him, then burst his mighty heart, and in his mantle muffling up his face, even at the base of Pompey's statue, which all the while ran blood, great Caesar fell.”

“Oh, what a fall was there, my countrymen! Then I and you and all of us fell down, while bloody treason flourished over us. Oh now you weep and I perceive you feel the dint of pity --- these are gracious drops. Kind souls, what weep you when you but behold our Caesar's vesture wounded? Look you here! Here is himself marred as you see with traitors.”

“Good friends, sweet friends, let me not stir you up to such a sudden flood of mutiny. They that have caused this deed are honorable. What private griefs they have, alas, I know not what made them do it. They are wise and honorable and will, no doubt, with reasons answer you.”

“I come not, friends, to steal away your hearts. I am no orator, as Cicero is; but, as you know me all, a plain blunt man, that loves my friend and that they know full well that gave me public leave to speak of him --- for I have neither wit, nor words, nor worth, action nor utterance, nor the power of speech to stir men's blood. I only speak right on; I tell you that which you yourselves do know; show you sweet Caesar's wounds, poor dumb mouths, and bid them speak for me … but were I Cicero, and Cicero, Lepidus, there were a Lepidus would ruffle up your spirits and put a tongue in every wound of Caesar that should move the stones of Rome to rise and mutiny.”

With this, the crowd began to gesture angrily, and hands that were previously raised with open palms now clutched knives and cudgels. With shouts, a few men began to move towards the Curia, but johnhughthom continued.

“But friends, you go to do you know not what! Wherein has Caesar thus deserved your love? Alas, you know not - I must tell you then - You have forgot the will I told you of. Here is the will, and under Caesar's seal. To every several man, seventy-five drachmas! Moreover, he has left you all his walks, his private arbors and new-planted orchards - he has left them all to you. And to your heirs forever, common pleasures, to walk abroad, to recreate yourselves. Here was a Caesar! When comes another?”

With this revelation, the crowd emitted a sound the like of which Rome had never heard. Part elation at their inheritance, part outrage at Caesar’s death, it was all passion. The crowd surged up the steps towards the Curia, but the Senators had seen what was coming and they had long since departed. With no target for their anger, the plebeians settled for defacing a few statues before marching back through the streets of Rome, singing the praises of those who had fallen in the crisis. johnhughthom slipped away amongst the crowd, his proscription forgotten by the people who had been so enriched by his words and Caesar’s will. He removed his white Senatorial toga and vanished into the city.

That night was a restless one for the surviving Senators. In the morning, they met again, though this time privately in the house of Cicero. The city had quieted down a great deal since the previous day’s excitement. There was still great turmoil amongst the populous, but without any partisan Senator to lead them it remained a simmering discontent instead of a boiling rebellion. Cicero and Cato now sat in firm control of the Senate. With the dual threats of Pompey and Caesar defeated, the work of restoring the Republic to its old glory was about to begin. It would be hard work, and it would take much effort, but with these two dedicated and talented men leading the way, there was hope at last. The Roman Republic would survive.


…

It was late at night when he reached Velitrae. The town was dark, but the light of the moon was bright and guided him on towards his destination. With Cicero and Cato in control of the Senate, he had no choice but to go into hiding. Yet, there was power still in the name of Caesar, and he had not said all during his eulogy on the forum. True, Caesar had given much to the plebeians, but that was but a small part of the boundless wealth he had appropriated during his time in Gaul. A full two-thirds of that wealth was bestowed on another beneficiary, one who Caesar had formally adopted as his son and heir in his will. That man would receive not only the wealth required to pay armies, but the name required to inspire them: Gaius Julius Caesar. True, he was still young, but he was ready for the toga virilis, and more importantly, Caesar had believed him worthy of his great legacy. Perhaps he would succeed where his adoptive father had failed. Perhaps there was still one man who could do what had to be done for the sake of Rome.

johnhughthom reached his destination, and rapped hastily on the door. After a few moments, the shuffling of sandaled feet could be heard, and a small window opened to reveal the face of an elderly servant. “Yes, what is it?” johnhughthom pulled back his hood, so that the moonlight spilled onto his face. “Tell Gaius Octavius Thurinus that Marcus Aemilius Lepidus has arrived with news from Rome.”


Republic Victory

johnhughthom: 6 (LG, Beefy187, TheFlax, Jolt, Khazaar, Marshal Murat)
Beefy187: 2 (johnhughthom, Ignoramus)

Abstain: 2 ('khaan, split)
Not Voting: 2 (Greyblades, Caius)

Alive (11):
Beefy187 - Appius Claudius Pulcher (Pulcher) – Optimates Senator
Greyblades - Gaius Asinius Pollio (Pollio) – Populares Senator
LittleGrizzly - Lucius Cornelius Lentulus Crus (Lentulus) – Consul, converted by Cato
Shinseikhaan - Publius Attius Varus (Varus) – Optimates Senator
spL1tp3r50naL1ty - Lucius Munatius Plancus (Plancus) – Populares Senator
Khazaar - Lucius Afranius (Afranius) – Optimates Senator
Jolt - Marcus Tullius Cicero (Cicero) – Republican Orator
Marshal Murat - Publius Cornelius Dolabella (Dolabella) – Populares Senator
Ignoramus - Tiberius Claudius Nero (Tiberius Nero) – Optimates Senator, switched to Populares Senator
TheFlax - Aulus Allienus (Allienus) – Praetor, converted by Cicero
Caius - Marcus Porcius Cato Uticensis (Cato the Younger) – Republican Orator

Killed (14):
White_eyes:D - Marcus Claudius Marcellus (Marcellus) – Optimates Senator
mini - Gaius Cassius Longinus (Cassius) – Optimates Senator
Beskar - Titus Labienus (Labienus) – Populares Senator
Yaropolk - Quintus Cassius Longinus (Longinus) – Populares Senator
pevergreen - Decimus Junius Brutus Albinus (Decimus Brutus) – Populares Senator
Glenn - Marcus Antonius (Mark Anthony) – Caesarian Legate
GeneralHankerchief - Quintus Scribonius Curio (Curio) - Praetor
Andres - Gaius Julius Caesar (Caesar) – Caesarian Dictator
woad&fangs - Marcus Junius Brutus (Brutus) – Optimates Senator
Sasaki Kojiro - Faustus Cornelius Sulla (Faustus) – Optimates Senator, converted by Cato
Askthepizzaguy - Marcus Terentius Varro (Varro) – Optimates Senator
Gaius Scribonius Curio - Quintus Valerius Orca (Orca) – Populares Senator
Ichigo - Gaius Claudius Marcellus Major (Marcellus Major) – Consul, converted by Cato
AggonyDuck - Publius Cornelius Lentulus Spinther (Spinther) – Optimates Senator

Proscripted (11):
navarro951 - Gnaeus Domitius Calvinus (Calvinus) – Caesarian Legate
Tiberius of the Drake - Servius Sulpicius Lemonia Rufus (Sulpicius) – Populares Senator
Cronos Impera - Publius Cornelius Scipio Salvito (Salvito) – Optimates Senator
Cultured Drizzt fan - Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus (Pompey the Great) – Pompeian Dictator
YLC - Marcus Calpurnius Bibulus (Bibulus) – Optimates Senator
atheotes - Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus (Ahenobarbus) – Pompeian Legate
Captain Blackadder - Marcus Caelius Rufus (Rufus) – Populares Senator
Chaotix - Cleopatra VII Philopator (Cleopatra) – Queen of Egypt
Tratorix - Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Scipio Nasica (Metellus Scipio) – Pompeian Legate, promoted to Dictator
Iskander 3.1 - Lucius Aemilius Lepidus Paullus (Paullus) – Populares Senator, recruited to Caesarian Legate by Lepidus.
johnhughthom - Marcus Aemilius Lepidus (Lepidus) – Populares Senator, recruited to Caesarian Legate by Caesar, promoted to Caesarian Dictator

WoG/Suicide (1):
everyone - Publius Vatinius (Vatinius) – Optimates Senator

[johnhughthom]

Awesome game, well played surviving Senators and thank you very much TinCow.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

glad we accomplished some things. great game everyone, was a lot of fun being the bad guy for my first ever mafia game. This was awesome, I thank Tratorix and Atheotes for dealing with my crazy plans as dictator. hope everyone found my messages humorous, I sure did.

[Beefy187]

My dream came true.

Congratulations fellow senators! We'll have a few fiestas.

Thanks TinCow!!

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

It was great to have some good old fashioned Roman politics!
I am particularly glad I got to personally send out the hit on Caesar himself!

[TinCow]

“It is pleasant at times to play the madman.”
- Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Caesarian Roles


“I love treason but hate a traitor.”
- Gaius Julius Caesar

Gaius Julius Caesar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar) (Caesar)
Caesarian Dictator
(Populares Faction)

The great Caesar needs no introduction. The Republican system is weak and corrupt. Rome needs strong leadership to achieve its true potential and to ensure the safety and prosperity of all Romans. Rome needs a Dictator who can cut accomplish anything, despite the obstructionist Senate. Rome needs you. All that stands in your way is Pompey. He was once renowned for his skill as a general, but that was long ago. He is now little more than a pawn of the archaic and greedy Optimates. Crush him and the pathetic Optimates that support him, and Rome will be yours alone. Under your steady hand, all will prosper, and the Republic will become an Empire of unmatched glory.

Victory Conditions:
Eliminate all Pompeians and Optimates Faction Senators. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this condition is met while any other Caesarian member is still alive.

Your allies are:
Marcus Antonius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Antony) (Mark Anthony) - Caesarian Legate - Glenn
Gnaeus Domitius Calvinus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domitius_Calvinus) (Calvinus) - Caesarian Legate - navarro951

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Veritas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritas) (Investigate) - You can investigate another player. The investigation will show the player's faction and whether they were active that night (though not what they were doing).
(2) Speculatores (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculatores) (Kill) - You can attempt to kill one player per night. If you attempt to kill alone and the target is protected, you will fail. If two Caesarians attempt to kill the same target, you will succeed even if the target is protected.
(3) Cohors Praetoria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetorian_Guard#History) (Protect) - You can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(4) Adrogation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrogation) (Recruit) - If there are no Caesarian Legates alive, you can anonymously recruit any living player who has elimination of the Optimates faction as an optional victory condition. If they accept, this will permanently change that player’s role into that of a Caesarian Legate. If they decline, this will permanently remove the option to eliminate the Optimates faction from that player’s victory conditions, thus forcing them to eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians in order to win. This ability may not be used more than twice during the game, even if it is used by different Caesarian Dictators. If this ability is used on a player that does not have elimination of the Optimates faction as an optional victory condition, it will operate as a normal Veritas action, and will not count against the twice per game limit.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. Note that since you can kill or protect alone, Senator kill and protection groups that you take part in will succeed (unless otherwise prevented in some manner) even if all of the players do not submit proper orders. If you join a group, you will not be able to use a night action.

Special Ability:
(1) Acta Diurna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acta_Diurna) (Propaganda) – You can submit a PM to TinCow (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=6193) which will then be posted anonymously as a message from Gaius Julius Caesar to the Senate. This could be useful in swaying Populares Faction Senators to join you, or otherwise aid the Caesarians, but beware of giving yourself away with your writing style as I will post your PM exactly as you have written it, but with your identity removed from the QUOTE section. The message will be posted at the start of the next day phase, and will be placed in the same post as that which narrates the results of the most recent night actions. Only one message can be posted in this manner per day phase.

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“Opinion is the main thing which does harm or good in the world. It is our false opinions that ruin us.”
- Marcus Antonius

Marcus Antonius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Antony) (Mark Anthony)
Caesarian Legate
(Populares Faction)

Caesar's best friend and greatest general, as a die-hard member of the Populares, you have promoted Caesar's interests in every way you can. In 50 BC, you were Tribune of the Plebs, and used your veto to block the attempts of the Optimates and Pompey to strip Caesar of his power. They responded with violence and expelled you from the Senate with force. You fled the city and have now joined up with Caesar who has marched south to deal with them once and for all. Your loyalty is certain and the road before you is clear. Defeat Pompey and crush the power of the Optimates once and for all. When Caesar rules Rome, you will surely be his most favored aide. Perhaps, in time, you will become Dictator as well.

Victory Conditions:
Eliminate all Pompeians and Optimates Faction Senators. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this condition is met while any other Caesarian member is still alive.

Your allies are:
Gaius Julius Caesar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar) (Caesar) - Caesarian Dictator - Andres
Gnaeus Domitius Calvinus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domitius_Calvinus) (Calvinus) - Caesarian Legate - navarro951

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Speculatores (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculatores) (Kill) - You can attempt to kill one player per night. If you attempt to kill alone and the target is protected, you will fail. If two Caesarians attempt to kill the same target, you will succeed even if the target is protected.
(2) Cohors Praetoria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetorian_Guard#History) (Protect) - You can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. This means that, operating together, two Legates can conduct a basic Senator investigation. Note that since you can kill or protect alone, Senator kill and protection groups that you take part in will succeed (unless otherwise prevented in some manner) even if all of the players do not submit proper orders. If you join a group, you will not be able to use a night action.

Special Ability:
(1) Cursus Honorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum) (Promotion) – If at any point the Caesarian Dictator dies, your role will permanently change to that of Caesarian Dictator. If multiple Caesarian Legates are alive when this happens, the promotion will be determined randomly.

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“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that things are difficult.”
- Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Gnaeus Domitius Calvinus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domitius_Calvinus) (Calvinus)
Caesarian Legate
(Populares Faction)

Long known as one of Gaius Julius Caesar's most loyal followers, the gens Julius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius) have been your close friends and allies for many years. This is an arrangement from which you have personally benefited. With the aid of Caesar, you were Consul in 53 BC and since then your loyalty to him has never been in question. As one of his most trusted and devoted men, you have been given the honor of helping him cleanse Rome of the taint that has been eroding the Republic. It is time to march forth and dispose of the corrupt Optimates that have been slowly destroying Rome from within.

Victory Conditions:
Eliminate all Pompeians and Optimates Faction Senators. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this condition is met while any other Caesarian member is still alive.

Your allies are:
Gaius Julius Caesar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar) (Caesar) - Caesarian Dictator - Andres
Marcus Antonius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Antony) (Mark Anthony) - Caesarian Legate - Glenn

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Speculatores (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculatores) (Kill) - You can attempt to kill one player per night. If you attempt to kill alone and the target is protected, you will fail. If two Caesarians attempt to kill the same target, you will succeed even if the target is protected.
(2) Cohors Praetoria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetorian_Guard#History) (Protect) - You can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. This means that, operating together, two Legates can conduct a basic Senator investigation. Note that since you can kill or protect alone, Senator kill and protection groups that you take part in will succeed (unless otherwise prevented in some manner) even if all of the players do not submit proper orders. If you join a group, you will not be able to use a night action.

Special Ability:
(1) Cursus Honorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum) (Promotion) – If at any point the Caesarian Dictator dies, your role will permanently change to that of Caesarian Dictator. If multiple Caesarian Legates are alive when this happens, the promotion will be determined randomly.

Pompeian Roles


“Stop quoting laws, we carry weapons!”
- Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus

Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey) (Pompey the Great)
Pompeian Dictator
(Optimates Faction)

Primus Inter Pares (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primus_inter_pares); the first among equals. No living Roman can match your reputation for skill in warfare. You served with distinction in the Social War. When you were still in your early 20s, you raised an army and conquered Sicily and Africa in the name of Lucius Cornelius Sulla. You were given a triumph, and then subdued the rebellion in Spain. For this you were given a second triumph, and became Consul at the unheard of age of 35, and without ever having been a Senator! You then continued your glorious acts by crushing the Mediterranean pirates and defeating Mithridates of Pontus.

For these deeds, and many others, you have been given the agnomen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnomen) of Magnus. You have been elevated to the level of Alexander the Great, and you bear that title with pride. Yet, your work is not complete. Rome is once again threatened, this time from within. Your former Triumverate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Triumvirate) partner, Caesar, has shirked all of the laws of the Republic and is a dire threat to its very integrity. You must eliminate him and all of his Populares supporters. It is time to act as your old ally, Lucius Cornelius Sulla, once did. Rome needs a Dictator to return it to the proper course. Rome needs you.

Victory Conditions:
Eliminate all Caesarians and Populares Faction Senators. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this condition is met while any other Pompeian member is still alive.

Your allies are:
Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Scipio Nasica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metellus_Scipio) (Metellus Scipio) - Pompeian Legate - Tratorix
Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Domitius_Ahenobarbus_(consul_54_BC)) (Ahenobarbus) - Pompeian Legate - atheotes

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Veritas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritas) (Investigate) - You can investigate another player. The investigation will show the player's faction and whether they were active that night (though not what they were doing).
(2) Speculatores (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculatores) (Kill) - You can attempt to kill one player per night. If you attempt to kill alone and the target is protected, you will fail. If two Pompeians attempt to kill the same target, you will succeed even if the target is protected.
(3) Cohors Praetoria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetorian_Guard#History) (Protect) - You can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(4) Adrogation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrogation) (Recruit) - If there are no Pompeian Legates alive, you can anonymously recruit any living player who has elimination of the Populares faction as an optional victory condition. If they accept, this will permanently change that player’s role into that of a Pompeian Legate. If they decline, this will permanently remove the option to eliminate the Populares faction from that player’s victory conditions, thus forcing them to eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians in order to win. This ability may not be used more than twice during the game, even if it is used by different Pompeian Dictators. If this ability is used on a player that does not have elimination of the Populares faction as an optional victory condition, it will operate as a normal Veritas action, and will not count against the twice per game limit.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. Note that since you can kill or protect alone, Senator kill and protection groups that you take part in will succeed (unless otherwise prevented in some manner) even if all of the players do not submit proper orders. If you join a group, you will not be able to use a night action.

Special Ability:
(1) Acta Diurna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acta_Diurna) (Propaganda) – You can submit a PM to TinCow (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=6193) which will then be posted anonymously as a message from Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus to the Senate. This could be useful in swaying Optimates Faction Senators to join you, or otherwise aid the Pompeians, but beware of giving yourself away with your writing style as I will post your PM exactly as you have written it, but with your identity removed from the QUOTE section. The message will be posted at the start of the next day phase, and will be placed in the same post as that which narrates the results of the most recent night actions. Only one message can be posted in this manner per day phase.

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“The greater the difficulty, the greater the glory.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Scipio Nasica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metellus_Scipio) (Metellus Scipio)
Pompeian Legate
(Optimates Faction)

Descended from a staunchly aristocratic family, you have always been a rock of the Optimates and have stood for Roman values of the Old Style. On this platform, you were elected Consul in 52 BC and worked to suppress the Populares and their corrupting influence. This time, with their champion Caesar, they have gone too far. It is not enough to simply stop the law-breaker himself; it has become clear to you that the entire Populares faction must be crushed, or the threat to Rome will never be over. A strong Optimates Dictator is the only hope Rome has left, and Pompey is the only man who can fit that role.

Victory Conditions:
Eliminate all Caesarians and Populares Faction Senators. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this condition is met while any other Pompeian member is still alive.

Your allies are:
Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey) (Pompey the Great) - Pompeian Dictator - Cultured Drizzt fan
Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Domitius_Ahenobarbus_(consul_54_BC)) (Ahenobarbus) - Pompeian Legate - atheotes

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Speculatores (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculatores) (Kill) - You can attempt to kill one player per night. If you attempt to kill alone and the target is protected, you will fail. If two Pompeians attempt to kill the same target, you will succeed even if the target is protected.
(2) Cohors Praetoria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetorian_Guard#History) (Protect) - You can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. This means that, operating together, two Legates can conduct a basic Senator investigation. Note that since you can kill or protect alone, Senator kill and protection groups that you take part in will succeed (unless otherwise prevented in some manner) even if all of the players do not submit proper orders. If you join a group, you will not be able to use a night action.

Special Ability:
(1) Cursus Honorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum) (Promotion) – If at any point the Pompeian Dictator dies, your role will permanently change to that of Pompeian Dictator. If multiple Pompeian Legates are alive when this happens, the promotion will be determined randomly.

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“For a good cause, wrongdoing is virtuous.”
- Publilius Syrus

Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Domitius_Ahenobarbus_(consul_54_BC)) (Ahenobarbus)
Pompeian Legate
(Optimates Faction)

A die-hard supporter of the Roman aristocracy, you have long been a shining example of the Optimates. Your conservatism won you the honor of marrying Porcia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcia_(sister_of_Cato_the_Younger)), the sister of the great Marcus Porcius Cato Uticensis (Cato the Younger). Though you have always fought to uphold the rule of law and defeat corruption, you are a conservative first and a republican second. You believe that any compromise of the conservative position and the aristocracy will lead to the ruin of Rome. The Populares, and Caesar in particular, now pose too strong a threat to be ignored. You are determined to save Rome from itself. Rome needs a strong Optimates Dictator to eliminate the radicals who are polluting the city. Rome needs Pompey, and you plan to make sure it gets him.

Victory Conditions:
Eliminate all Caesarians and Populares Faction Senators. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this condition is met while any other Pompeian member is still alive.

Your allies are:
Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey) (Pompey the Great) - Pompeian Dictator - Cultured Drizzt fan
Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Scipio Nasica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metellus_Scipio) (Metellus Scipio) - Pompeian Legate - Tratorix

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Speculatores (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculatores) (Kill) - You can attempt to kill one player per night. If you attempt to kill alone and the target is protected, you will fail. If two Pompeians attempt to kill the same target, you will succeed even if the target is protected.
(2) Cohors Praetoria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetorian_Guard#History) (Protect) - You can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. This means that, operating together, two Legates can conduct a basic Senator investigation. Note that since you can kill or protect alone, Senator kill and protection groups that you take part in will succeed (unless otherwise prevented in some manner) even if all of the players do not submit proper orders. If you join a group, you will not be able to use a night action.

Special Ability:
(1) Cursus Honorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum) (Promotion) – If at any point the Pompeian Dictator dies, your role will permanently change to that of Pompeian Dictator. If multiple Pompeian Legates are alive when this happens, the promotion will be determined randomly.

Special Roles


“He speaks in the Senate as if he were living in Plato's Republic instead of Romulus' cesspool.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero on Marcus Porcius Cato Uticensis

Marcus Porcius Cato Uticensis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_the_younger) (Cato the Younger)
Republican Orator
(Optimates Faction)

You are the rock on which Rome stands. You are the moral center by which all others are judged. From the moment you were born, you knew that the Republic was a sacred state that could never be abandoned. At the young age of 14, during the height of Sulla’s reign of terror, you asked your tutor why no one had killed the dictator. He replied, "They fear him, my child, more than they hate him." In response, you stated, "Give me a sword, that I might free my country from slavery."

Others made grand gestures like this, but for you it was the truth. You are a rich man, but you scorn displays of wealth. You wear your uncompromising morality on your sleeve, and it is all the adornment you need. Though you are a conservative and the strongest supporter of the Optimates, for you there is nothing more important than the Republic. All who would destroy the Old Ways must be themselves destroyed, even the Pompeians who seek a noble end by ignoble means.

Victory Conditions:
Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.
Unlike the other Optimates Senators, you cannot win by eliminating the Populares. Your only option is to save the Republic.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Veritas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritas) (Investigate) - You can investigate another player. The investigation will show the player's faction, full name, role, and whether they were active that night (though not what they were doing).
(2) Pietas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pietas_(virtue)) (Convert) - You can attempt to change the victory conditions of any living player. This ability will fail if attempted on any role other than Optimates Senator or Consul. If successful, this will permanently remove the option to eliminate the Populares faction from that player’s victory conditions, thus forcing them to eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians in order to win. This ability can only be used three times.

Day Actions:
(1) Rhetoric (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetoric) (Vote Change) - During a day phase, you can submit an order which will change a single player's lynch vote to another player in the final tally and lynch write-up. You MUST submit this order before the time limit for voting expires. In your order PM, you must give the name of the player whose vote you want to change and the name of the player you want them to vote for. It does not matter who that player was intending to vote for or whether they were even active at all. You may also choose to have your target player vote abstain or no lynch instead of voting for someone else. However, you cannot make a player vote for himself.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. If you join a group, you will not be able to use a night action.

Special Ability:
(1) Dignitas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignitas_(Roman_concept)) (Immune) - If you locate Marcus Tullius Cicero (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicero) (Cicero), both you and he will become immune to Proscription (lynching) during the Day Phase. In order to prove that you have located Cicero, you must send me (TinCow (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=6193)) a PM telling me who Cicero is and Cicero must send me a PM telling me who you are. Locating Cicero may prove difficult, but perhaps he might recognize you if you spoke a few words of Latin…

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“The first duty of a man is the seeking after and the investigation of truth.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

Marcus Tullius Cicero (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicero) (Cicero)
Republican Orator
(Populares Faction)*

You are the most powerful novus homo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_homo) that Rome has ever seen. You are low-born, and not even a true Roman by ancestry, but you have shattered the notions of what a man can accomplish by will alone. Through skill at oratory and politics, you have bested countless opponents who sought to undo you. During your Consulship in 63 BC, you exposed the conspiracy of Lucius Sergius Catiline and saved the Republic from immense bloodshed. You are respected and admired as few in Rome have ever been. The consummate politician and philosopher, you have achieved more than nearly any man who has ever lived, and you have done it with nothing more than your mind.

The Republic is what allowed you to live and prosper. That institution is unique in the world, allowing (some) men to rise based on merit alone. Without the Republic, you would not be and in gratitude you defend it until your last breath.

*Historical Note: In real life Cicero, though a political moderate, was always allied with the Optimates. In this game, he is Populares for balance purposes only.

Victory Conditions:
Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.
Unlike the other Populares Senators, you cannot win by eliminating the Optimates. Your only option is to save the Republic.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Veritas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritas) (Investigate) - You can investigate another player. The investigation will show the player's faction, full name, role, and whether they were active that night (though not what they were doing).
(2) Pietas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pietas_(virtue)) (Convert) - You can attempt to change the victory conditions of any living player. This ability will fail if attempted on any role other than Populares Senator or Praetor. If successful, this will permanently remove the option to eliminate the Optimates faction from that player’s victory conditions, thus forcing them to eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians in order to win. This ability can only be used three times.

Day Actions:
(1) Rhetoric (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetoric) (Vote Change) - During a day phase, you can submit an order which will change a single player's lynch vote to another player in the final tally and lynch write-up. You MUST submit this order before the time limit for voting expires. In your order PM, you must give the name of the player whose vote you want to change and the name of the player you want them to vote for. It does not matter who that player was intending to vote for or whether they were even active at all. You may also choose to have your target player vote abstain or no lynch instead of voting for someone else. However, you cannot make a player vote for himself.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. If you join a group, you will not be able to use a night action.

Special Ability:
(1) Dignitas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignitas_(Roman_concept)) (Immune) - If you locate Marcus Porcius Cato Uticensis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_the_younger) (Cato the Younger), both you and he will become immune to Proscription (lynching) during the Day Phase. In order to prove that you have located Cato, you must send me (TinCow (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=6193)) a PM telling me who Cato is and Cato must send me a PM telling me who you are. Locating Cato may prove difficult, but perhaps he might recognize you if you spoke a few words of Latin…

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“I will not be triumphed over.”
- Cleopatra VII Philopator

Cleopatra VII Philopator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra) (Cleopatra)
Queen of Egypt

You are the daughter of King Ptolemy XII, the former ruler of Egypt. He died two years ago, and his will stated that you and your younger brother, Ptolemy XIII, would be joint rulers of the Kingdom. However, you have no intentions of sharing your power with him, and likewise he seeks to be rid of you at the earliest opportunity. You are planning a rebellion against him, but your brother's power is great and he will be difficult to overthrow. Unless you obtain the support of Rome, you will surely be defeated in your bid to become the sole ruler of Egypt. It does not matter to you who rules Rome, be it Pompey, Caesar, or even the Senate. You are confident that you can convince any of them to help you, if you can only manage to navigate the treacherous waters of the Civil War.

As Queen of Egypt, you have great wealth at your disposal. It has not been difficult for you to find lesser Roman Senators who are willing to serve your interests in the daily proceedings in the Senate itself. In return for your financial backing of their political campaigns, they will act as your mouthpiece in the Senate and give you a vote in the impending Proscriptions.

Victory Conditions:
Survive until the end of the game. It does not matter to you who else is victorious, as long as you are alive. As you are not Caesarian, Pompeian, Populares, or Optimates, you do not count against anyone else's victory conditions.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Seduction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seductress) (Block) - You can seduce one player per night. That player will be blocked and fail at any night action they attempted. You will be informed if the player was attempting a night action and the target of that night action, but you will not know the type of action that was attempted. If you are attacked at night, you will gain the benefits of any protection that the target of your seduction has on that night. Obviously, if your target has no protection, you will gain no benefit from this. If your target is attacked but you are not, you will remain unharmed.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. If you join a group, you will not be able to use a night action.

Special Ability:
(1) Ambitus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambitus) (Investigation Spoofing) – The Senators that you have bribed are residing at your residence at night and will make themselves visible to any prying eyes. If you are investigated, you will show up as the same Faction (Populares/Optimates) as the player who investigated you. If the player investigating you has to power to uncover specific identities, you will appear to be one of the minor Roman Senators that you have bribed to represent your interests in the Senate. If the investigator is Optimates, you will appear to be Aulus Caecina Severus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aulus_Caecina_Severus) (Caecina), and if the investigator is Populares, you will appear to be Gaius Caninius Rebilus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Caninius_Rebilus) (Rebilus).

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“Be silent as to services you have rendered, but speak of favors you have received.”
- Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Quintus Scribonius Curio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Scribonius_Curio) (Curio)
Preator
(Populares Faction)

Your father was the famous Gaius Scribonius Curio, the orator and Consul. Despite your family’s long friendship with Cicero and your father’s opposition to Caesar, you have decided your loyalties on a more practical basis: money. Caesar paid off your debts, and for that you served his interests first as Tribune and now as Praetor. It is up to you whether you remain Caesar’s ally or use your rank and position to protect the Republic. The position of Praetor grants you the services of a group of Lictors. These men wield fasces and act as bodyguards that respond to your orders alone. In this time of crisis, they will be useful in keeping you and your allies alive.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Lictors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lictor) (Protect) - As you are Praetor in 49 BC, you have a group of lictors to guard you. You can send your lictors to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night. Alternatively, you can have your lictors remain at your side to protect you instead. Either way, you must submit a Night Action PM with your orders. Your lictors will not protect anyone, including yourself, if you fail to submit a Night Action PM.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. If you join a group, you will not be able to use your lictors to protect anyone, including yourself.

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“It might be pardonable to refuse to defend some men, but to defend them negligently is nothing short of criminal.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

Aulus Allienus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aulus_Allienus) (Allienus)
Preator
(Populares Faction)

You are a novus homo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_homo), and men in that position often stick together to avoid the prejudices of the ancient Roman tribes. In your case, you could not have chosen a better fellow novus homo to befriend. From an early age, you became close with the great Marcus Tullius Cicero, and the friendship benefited you greatly. After Cicero achieved the Consulship in 63 BC, the ascendancy of his family was greatly increased. In 60 BC, you furthered your career by serving as legate to Cicero’s brother, Quintus Tullius Cicero, who was serving as Propraetor of Asia. Since then, you have followed the usual cursus honorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum), and have been fortunate to reach the rank of Praetor this year.

As a novus homo, you are acutely aware of the prejudices of the old ways and have always been solid Populares. As the Civil War breaks upon the Republic, you find yourself heavily favoring Caesar and his followers. If you decide to let the Republic die, it is to them that you must look for your future prosperity.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Lictors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lictor) (Protect) - As you are Praetor in 49 BC, you have a group of lictors to guard you. You can send your lictors to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night. Alternatively, you can have your lictors remain at your side to protect you instead. Either way, you must submit a Night Action PM with your orders. Your lictors will not protect anyone, including yourself, if you fail to submit a Night Action PM.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. If you join a group, you will not be able to use your lictors to protect anyone, including yourself.

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“Most powerful is he who has himself in his own power.
- Lucius Annaeus Seneca”

Lucius Cornelius Lentulus Crus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Cornelius_Lentulus_Crus) (Lentulus)
Consul
(Optimates Faction)

Like all true Romans, you have long sought power for your own personal gain. Unlike most Romans, however, you have actually achieved it. As Civil War is thrust upon the Republic, you find yourself in the supreme position of Consul. You have long been a vicious opponent of Caesar and the Populares, but your loyalty to the Optimates extends only so far as it will benefit you. While you could certainly support them, you would surely be hailed as one of the foremost saviors of the Republic if you decided to eliminate both threats. It is up to you to decide where your best interests lie. Fortunately, the position of Consul grants you the services of a group of Lictors. These men wield fasces and act as bodyguards that respond to your orders alone. In this time of crisis, they will be useful in keeping you and your allies alive.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Lictors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lictor) (Protect) - As you are Consul in 49 BC, you have a group of lictors to guard you. You can send your lictors to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night. Alternatively, you can have your lictors remain at your side to protect you instead. Either way, you must submit a Night Action PM with your orders. Your lictors will not protect anyone, including yourself, if you fail to submit a Night Action PM.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. If you join a group, you will not be able to use your lictors to protect anyone, including yourself.

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“The higher your station, the less your liberty.”
- Gaius Sallustius Crispus

Gaius Claudius Marcellus Major (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Claudius_Marcellus_Major) (Marcellus Major)
Consul
(Optimates Faction)

The Consulship and the cognomen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognomen) Marcellus go hand in hand these days. Your brother, Marcus Claudius Marcellus (Marcellus) was Consul in 51 BC and your cousin, Gaius Claudius Marcellus Minor (Marcellus Minor), was Consul in 50 BC. With your election to the pre-eminent position in the cursus honorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum) in 49 BC, you have continued the legacy of your proud family. You have also continued the fine example set by your brother and cousin, upholding the righteous cause of the Optimates, and obstructing the traitorous Caesar whenever possible. With the Consulship in your hands at this, the moment of his rebellion, you are well placed to gain glory and fame by defeating him.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Lictors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lictor) (Protect) - As you are Consul in 49 BC, you have a group of lictors to guard you. You can send your lictors to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night. Alternatively, you can have your lictors remain at your side to protect you instead. Either way, you must submit a Night Action PM with your orders. Your lictors will not protect anyone, including yourself, if you fail to submit a Night Action PM.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. If you join a group, you will not be able to use your lictors to protect anyone, including yourself.

Populares Senators


“Old age isn't so bad when you consider the alternatives."”
- Cato the Elder

Marcus Caelius Rufus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Caelius_Rufus) (Rufus)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

A wealthy man, you have courted high and powerful friends. You bedded the sister of Publius Clodius Pulcher. It was fun for a while, but soon the affair soured. That vindictive wench then had the temerity to bring suit against you on trumped up charges! Fortunately, your connections brought the powerful Marcus Licinius Crassus and the influential Marcus Tullius Cicero to your aid. With their help, you were acquitted, and have continued to live out your life of luxury and privilege.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Villa Stronghold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_villa): You are a wealthy man and own a fine villa which you have designed for security as well as comfort. Your guards are loyal and will fight to the death to protect you. So long as you remain inside your fortress home, you will be difficult to kill. You can survive one successful attack if you are inactive on the night of the attack.

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“Force without wisdom falls of its own weight.”
- Quintus Horatius Flaccus

Quintus Valerius Orca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintus_Valerius_Orca) (Orca)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

A prosperous Roman Senator, you have achieved great success in life. You were Praetor in 57 BC and governor of Africa in 56 BC. Despite your close friendship with Marcus Tullius Cicero, you have always been a die-hard Populares. Your father was a supporter of Gaius Marius and was murdered during Lucius Cornelius Sulla’s proscriptions. Caesar is clearly the political successor of his uncle Marius, and as such if you are going to abandon the Republic and take sides, it is to him that your loyalties will fall.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Manumission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manumission): You have several slaves in your household. For years now, you have been training one of them as a gladiator to fight for your profit. This man has become a deadly weapon, and in this time of crisis, he is a weapon that may be worth using. In return for his freedom, he will attempt to assassinate anyone you wish. You can attempt to kill another player by yourself one time.

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“The rule of friendship means there should be mutual sympathy between them, each supplying what the other lacks and trying to benefit the other, always using friendly and sincere words.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

Marcus Aemilius Lepidus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Aemilius_Lepidus_(triumvir)) (Lepidus)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

Your father was a controversial man, in the best traditions of Rome. He supported Lucius Cornelius Sulla while he was Dictator, but quickly turned on him once he retired from public life and dedicated himself to the Populares cause. His consulship was… eventful… to put it kindly, but the children of powerful exiles are still the children of powerful men.

Both you and your brother, Lucius Aemilius Lepidus Paullus, have followed in your father’s footsteps as supporters of the Populares. In your case, you served Gaius Julius Caesar during the Gallic Wars, and have recently secured the coveted title of Praetor. Despite this rank and the traditional benefits that go with it, your true strength lies in cooperation with your brother. In times of crisis like these, you are one of the few men in Rome who knows that he has an ally he can rely upon. Your odds of emerging from this political storm are surely far greater if you work together.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Amicitia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laelius_de_Amicitia): Over the years, you have developed a very close friendship with another Senator. You share a strong bond and are truly amici in the finest traditions of Roman society. You know that this Senator holds the same political beliefs as you and you are confident that if you work together, you will both have a better chance of surviving this crisis, regardless of the course that you chart through it. You know the identity of another Populares Faction Senator, and he knows yours. That Senator is your brother, Lucius Aemilius Lepidus Paullus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Aemilius_Lepidus_Paullus) (Paullus) – Iskander 3.1.

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“Think to yourself that every day is your last; the hour to which you do not look forward will come as a welcome surprise.”
- Quintus Horatius Flaccus

Lucius Munatius Plancus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Munatius_Plancus) (Plancus)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

You served in Caesar’s legions well and ably during the Gallic Wars. A veteran of glorious combat with powerful friends in the Senate, it was only a matter of time before you became a Senator yourself. With you long-standing friendship with both Gaius Julius Caesar and Marcus Antonius, your allegiance to the Populares has never been in question. However, you are a flexible man and know that loyalties can change over time, given the right circumstances. You are free to support the Caesarians or the Republic as you see fit.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Villa Stronghold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_villa): You are a wealthy man and own a fine villa which you have designed for security as well as comfort. Your guards are loyal and will fight to the death to protect you. So long as you remain inside your fortress home, you will be difficult to kill. You can survive one successful attack if you are inactive on the night of the attack.

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“Once a word has been allowed to escape, it cannot be recalled.”
- Quintus Horatius Flaccus

Publius Vatinius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Vatinius) (Vatinius)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

You have had a long and… interesting political career. Quaestor in 63 BC, Tribune in 59 BC, and Praetor in 55 BC. The last was secured due to the support of no lesser men than Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus and Marcus Licinius Crassus, and you defeated Marcus Porcius Cato Uticensis to boot! Early on, you sold your loyalty to Gaius Julius Caesar and have strongly supported him and the Populares ever since. However, your cursus honorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum) is not yet complete; you still desire the Consulship. Perhaps the Caesarians can give this to you, but perhaps the Republic can as well. Your options remain open.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Gravitas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitas): Through your personal actions and service to his cause, you have earned the trust and respect of Gaius Julius Caesar. You know people, who know people, who know people. Even though he is in hiding, if you wish to communicate with Caesar, your connections make it possible. You may send an anonymous message to Gaius Julius Caesar twice during the game. To do this, send a PM to TinCow (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=6193). The message will be forwarded to Caesar exactly as you have written it, but with your identity removed from the QUOTE section. If Caesar wishes to respond, he can do so with a single message in the exact same fashion.

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“The shifts of Fortune test the reliability of friends.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, "De Amicitia"

Lucius Aemilius Lepidus Paullus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Aemilius_Lepidus_Paullus) (Paullus)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

Your father was a controversial man, in the best traditions of Rome. He supported Lucius Cornelius Sulla while he was Dictator, but quickly turned on him once he retired from public life and dedicated himself to the Populares cause. His consulship was… eventful… to put it kindly, but the children of powerful exiles are still the children of powerful men.

Both you and your brother, Marcus Aemilius Lepidus, have followed in your father’s footsteps as supporters of the Populares. In your case, you have followed the cursus honorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum), as Quaestor in 59 BC, Aedile in 55 BC, Praetor in 53 BC, and finally as Consul in 50 BC. You owe Gaius Julius Caesar a great deal, but your experience and titles allow you the freedom to lend your strong support to the Republic, if you so choose. In addition, despite your high prestige, your true strength lies in cooperation with your brother. In times of crisis like these, you are one of the few men in Rome who knows that he has an ally he can rely upon. Your odds of emerging from this political storm are surely far greater if you work together.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Amicitia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laelius_de_Amicitia): Over the years, you have developed a very close friendship with another Senator. You share a strong bond and are truly amici in the finest traditions of Roman society. You know that this Senator holds the same political beliefs as you and you are confident that if you work together, you will both have a better chance of surviving this crisis, regardless of the course that you chart through it. You know the identity of another Populares Faction Senator, and he knows yours. That Senator is your brother, Marcus Aemilius Lepidus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Aemilius_Lepidus_(triumvir)) (Lepidus) – johnhughthom.

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“We can learn even from our enemies.”
- Publius Ovidius Naso

Decimus Junius Brutus Albinus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimus_Junius_Brutus_Albinus) (Decimus Brutus)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

Though less famous than your cousin, Marcus Junius Brutus, you have milked your ancient and revered gens Junius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junius_(gens)) name for all it is worth. It has served you well. You were able to secure a commission as Legate under another one of your cousins, Gaius Julius Caesar, during the Gallic Wars. This opened many doors to you, and your skill in warfare brought great benefits from Caesar and the Populares who follow him. In this time of crisis, it would be wise to use these benefits to aide whichever cause you decide to follow.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Clientela (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clientela): As a prominent Senator, you have spent a lifetime cultivating an expansive web of connections. All over Rome, men both high and low owe you great obligations. In this time of crisis, you have decided to call in one of your most valuable favors. One of your clients is well-placed inside the household of another Senator, and he will provide you with information. You may investigate alone once. The investigation will show the target's faction and whether the target was active, though not what they were doing.

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“Better be ignorant of a matter than half know it.”
- Publilius Syrus

Gaius Asinius Pollio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Asinius_Pollio_(consul_40_BC)) (Pollio)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

You are an intelligent young Senator with a promising future. Few men in Rome are as intelligent, witty, and talented as you, but many are more experienced. Your inherent abilities have brought your great success and prosperity that is unusual in a man of your youth, but you know that you can accomplish far, far more. However, you must first survive this political cataclysm before you can demonstrate your true value to the Roman people. Perhaps it would be a good time to call in some of those favors you have accumulated with your recent successes…


Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Clientela (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clientela): As a prominent Senator, you have spent a lifetime cultivating an expansive web of connections. All over Rome, men both high and low owe you great obligations. In this time of crisis, you have decided to call in one of your most valuable favors. One of your clients is well-placed inside the household of another Senator, and he will provide you with information. You may investigate alone once. The investigation will show the target's faction and whether the target was active, though not what they were doing.

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“Cease to ask what the morrow will bring forth. And set down as gain each day that Fortune grants.”
- Quintus Horatius Flaccus

Publius Cornelius Dolabella (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Cornelius_Dolabella) (Dolabella)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

Your relatively young life has been… eventful, to say the least. Only a year ago, you managed to secure a marriage with no lesser woman than Tullia, daughter of the famous Marcus Tullius Cicero. The match was not a perfect one and you are already quarrelling bitterly with her and her cantankerous father. Even so, a union with the daughter of Cicero has its benefits, and one of them is wealth. You have wavered in your support of the two potential Dictators for some time now, but recent quarrels with your father-in-law have essentially alienated you from the Optimates cause. At least the old Consul’s wealth can be put to use in your aid, even if he and his daughter are nothing more than annoyances!


Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Villa Stronghold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_villa): You are a wealthy man and own a fine villa which you have designed for security as well as comfort. Your guards are loyal and will fight to the death to protect you. So long as you remain inside your fortress home, you will be difficult to kill. You can survive one successful attack if you are inactive on the night of the attack.

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“It is a bad plan that admits of no modification.”
- Publilius Syrus

Titus Labienus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus_Labienus) (Labienus)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

Some men cower before Gaius Julius Caesar, but you are not amongst them. Caesar may have taken credit for the victories in the Gallic Wars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallic_Wars), but you know in your heart that a great deal of the success was due to your efforts alone. Your victories and accomplishments are many, and those who know you celebrate your military skill as equal to that of Caesar and Pompey.

Now that your commander, Caesar, has done the unthinkable, you find yourself at a crossroads. Your long service to the favorite of the Populares will allow you to follow Caesar to further victories without question. Yet, your skill in arms and reputation for upholding the best in Roman values has endeared you to the Optimates. Should you wish it, you could cross over to them at any time. Then again, you could also aid the dying Republic. There are few in Rome who possess your unique political flexibility, and it will allow you the freedom to chart your own course, going wherever the winds of fortune take you.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Damnatio Memoriae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae): Despite your long-standing ties to the Populares, there has always been a part of you that has sympathized with the ideals of the Optimates. Unlike most Senators, you are capable of crossing over to the other side and convincing them that the shift was sincere. Of course, such an action would only be believable once. You can switch your allegiance to the Optimates at any time, but you cannot switch back. This will permanently change your role and victory conditions to those of an Optimates Senator.

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“He who spares the wicked injures the good.”
- Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Quintus Cassius Longinus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintus_Cassius_Longinus) (Longinus)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

Brothers often disagree on issues, but few on one as important as that which divides you and Gaius Cassius Longinus (Cassius). You have had parallel careers in many regards. You started the cursus honorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum) in 54 BC as Quaestor, while your brother began as 53 BC as Quaestor. You spent a great deal of time in the western province of Hispania Ulterior, while your brother spent his time in the eastern province of Syria. As the year 49 BC begins, you are both once again in Rome, and have both been elected as Tribunes of the Plebs. Yet despite your parallel lives, there is one key difference. Cassius has thrown in his lot with Pompey and the Optimates, while you have chosen to back Caesar and the Populares. You expect great personal rewards from Caesar for your loyalty to his cause. The only question remains whether you shall survive long enough to profit from it.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Manumission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manumission): You have several slaves in your household. For years now, you have been training one of them as a gladiator to fight for your profit. This man has become a deadly weapon, and in this time of crisis, he is a weapon that may be worth using. In return for his freedom, he will attempt to assassinate anyone you wish. You can attempt to kill another player by yourself one time.


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“Every man is the architect of his own fortune.”
- Gaius Sallustius Crispus

Servius Sulpicius Lemonia Rufus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servius_Sulpicius_Rufus) (Sulpicius)
Senator
(Populares Faction)

Few can boast of being friends with the preeminent Marcus Tullius Cicero (Cicero), but you count yourself in that elite group. The two of you studied rhetoric together when you were students. You quickly found yourself outmatched by the great orator, but found your own calling in the law. Cicero is a legendary lawyer himself, but he publicly proclaims you as his superior in that aspect of the verbal arts. Your success in law and your keen mind has served you will in Rome, eventually elevating you to the supreme position of Consul in 51 BC. As the Civil War breaks over Rome, you waver between support of Caesar and support of the Republic. Whichever side you finally decide to back will be greatly served by your legal talents.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Villa Stronghold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_villa): You are a wealthy man and own a fine villa which you have designed for security as well as comfort. Your guards are loyal and will fight to the death to protect you. So long as you remain inside your fortress home, you will be difficult to kill. You can survive one successful attack if you are inactive on the night of the attack.

Optimates Senators


“I am not ashamed to confess that I am ignorant of what I do not know.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

Publius Cornelius Lentulus Spinther (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentulus_Spinther) (Spinther)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

There are few family names in Rome as important as those of gens Cornelius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_(gens)), and you have proven that their influence has not faded over the ages. You began your cursus honorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum) as Aedile in 63 BC, followed by the Praetorship in 60 BC, and finally the glorious Consulship in 57 BC. Despite owing some great political debts to Gaius Julius Caesar, you have remained true to your patrician heritage and are a die-hard member of the Optimates.

The benefits of high office have not passed you by. As governor of Hispania Citerior in 59 BC, and Cilicia from 56 to 53 BC, you acted wisely and fairly, unlike most of your counterparts who sought only to enrich themselves. Instead of material wealth, you earned the esteem of many prosperous and influential Cilicians. While not Roman citizens, they can provide great services to you, their patron, if you ever have need of them.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Clientela (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clientela): As a prominent Senator, you have spent a lifetime cultivating an expansive web of connections. All over Rome, men both high and low owe you great obligations. In this time of crisis, you have decided to call in one of your most valuable favors. One of your clients is well-placed inside the household of another Senator, and he will provide you with information. You may investigate alone once. The investigation will show the target's faction and whether the target was active, though not what they were doing.

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“It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live.”
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus

Marcus Calpurnius Bibulus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Calpurnius_Bibulus) (Bibulus)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

As the son-in-law of Marcus Porcius Cato Uticencis, there has never been any doubt as to which political party you have supported. You are a staunch Optimates, and your efforts on their behalf have been richly rewarded. Unfortunately, the main reward that you were given was to be Consul in 59 BC with none other than Gaius Julius Caesar himself! That impudent lout turned the Mob against you, and they attacked your bodyguards and dumped human excrement on you! To save your own skin, you wisely retreated to your home and fortified it against intruders. You did you best to thwart Caesar by constantly proclaiming bad omens, but your term has often been ridiculed as the Consulship of Julius and Caesar.

You have never forgiven Caesar and the Populares for these grave insults, and rightly so! Perhaps now would be a good time to get revenge for all of the humiliations they have heaped upon you… sometimes literally!

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Villa Stronghold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_villa): You are a wealthy man and own a fine villa which you have designed for security as well as comfort. Your guards are loyal and will fight to the death to protect you. So long as you remain inside your fortress home, you will be difficult to kill. You can survive one successful attack if you are inactive on the night of the attack.

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“Consult your friend on all things, especially on those which respect yourself. His counsel may then be useful where your own self-love might impair your judgment.
- Lucius Annaeus Seneca”

Gaius Cassius Longinus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Cassius_Longinus) (Cassius)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

Few in Rome have the strength to do what is necessary in the face of adversity. You are one of those few. After serving as Quaestor in 53 BC, you joined Marcus Licinius Crassus’ expedition against the Parthians. You could tell right from the start that the old Consul was marching to his own doom, and tried repeatedly to change his strategy. Yet, he would not listen and met his fate at Carrhae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Carrhae). Not one to shirk responsibility, you gathered those survivors that you could and held the line against the Parthians in Syria for the next two years. It was a remarkable accomplishment, and you are rightly praised for your steadfastness and virtue.

Now, Rome has need of such attributes again. Gaius Julius Caesar and the Populares are attempting to overthrow the Republic and destroy all that your ancestors have built over the past 700 years. Whether you support Pompey or take a purer Republican line, you know that the Caesarians cannot be spared. Fortunately, you know that your brother-in-law, Marcus Junius Brutus, feels the same way. He too has a reputation for honesty and virtue, and together, you would be a force to be reckoned with. There is no doubt in your mind that when all this is over, history will remember the names Brutus and Cassius!

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Amicitia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laelius_de_Amicitia): Over the years, you have developed a very close friendship with another Senator. You share a strong bond and are truly amici in the finest traditions of Roman society. You know that this Senator holds the same political beliefs as you and you are confident that if you work together, you will both have a better chance of surviving this crisis, regardless of the course that you chart through it. You know the identity of another Optimates Faction Senator, and he knows yours. That Senator is your brother-in-law, Marcus Junius Brutus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Junius_Brutus) (Brutus) – woad&fangs.

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“He who is brave is free.”
- Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Marcus Claudius Marcellus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Claudius_Marcellus_(consul_51_BC)) (Marcellus)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

Up the Optimates! You are a classic example of what it means to be a Roman. You hail from the noble gens Claudius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudius_(gens)) and have vigorously followed in the footsteps of your patrician ancestors. First, as Aedile in 56 BC, and then as Consul in 52 BC, you have done all in your power to uphold conservative tradition. The Populares hate you with a passion, but what else can one of such mutinous scum? This Civil War comes as no surprise to you. While other Senators are trying to determine how to extricate themselves from this mess, you are capable of independent action. At any moment, you can unleash a vicious blow on the Caesarians and Populares. The only question is how you select a target to make the best use of your unique asset.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Manumission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manumission): You have several slaves in your household. For years now, you have been training one of them as a gladiator to fight for your profit. This man has become a deadly weapon, and in this time of crisis, he is a weapon that may be worth using. In return for his freedom, he will attempt to assassinate anyone you wish. You can attempt to kill another player by yourself one time.

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“Sometimes even to live is an act of courage.”
- Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Lucius Afranius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Afranius_(consul)) (Afranius)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

You have long been a friend of Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus. Both of you grew up in Picenum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picenum), at you have been his comrade in arms on many campaigns. You remained loyal to him even when others would have felt slighted by his actions. In return, he rewarded you by buying your election to the Consulship in 60 BC. Since then, there has never been any question of which faction you would support in the event of a crisis.

Now that the crisis if finally here, you have the advantage of the great wealth bestowed upon all Proconsuls through the governorship of a province. Money may not be able to buy happiness, but it can certainly give you a longer time in which to find it!

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Villa Stronghold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_villa): You are a wealthy man and own a fine villa which you have designed for security as well as comfort. Your guards are loyal and will fight to the death to protect you. So long as you remain inside your fortress home, you will be difficult to kill. You can survive one successful attack if you are inactive on the night of the attack.

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“To like and dislike the same things, that is indeed true friendship.”
- Gaius Sallustius Crispus, The War with Catiline

Marcus Junius Brutus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Junius_Brutus) (Brutus)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

As a member of the gens Junius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junius_(gens)), you are a direct descendent of the founder of the Republic, Lucius Junius Brutus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Junius_Brutus). As one of the scions of the Old Republic, you are extremely well connected. Your father served as legate to Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus, Marcus Porcius Cato Uticensis is your uncle, and your mother has long been a mistress to Gaius Julius Caesar. These connections have already served you well in the early stages of the cursus honorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum), which you began as Quaestor in 53 BC.

Despite your relative youth, you hold great sway amongst those who seek to uphold the Old Ways. Gaius Julius Caesar and the Populares are attempting to overthrow the Republic and destroy all that your ancestors have built over the past 700 years. Whether you support Pompey or take a purer Republican line, you know that the Caesarians cannot be spared. Fortunately, you know that your brother-in-law, Gaius Cassius Longinus, feels the same way. He too has a reputation for honesty and virtue, and together, you would be a force to be reckoned with. There is no doubt in your mind that when all this is over, history will remember the names Brutus and Cassius!

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Amicitia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laelius_de_Amicitia): Over the years, you have developed a very close friendship with another Senator. You share a strong bond and are truly amici in the finest traditions of Roman society. You know that this Senator holds the same political beliefs as you and you are confident that if you work together, you will both have a better chance of surviving this crisis, regardless of the course that you chart through it. You know the identity of another Optimates Faction Senator, and he knows yours. That Senator is your brother-in-law, Gaius Cassius Longinus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Cassius_Longinus) (Cassius) – mini.

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“While there's life, there's hope.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, Epistolarum ad Atticum

Publius Attius Varus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Attius_Varus) (Varus)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

It’s good to be a Roman. It’s better to be an Optimates. It’s best to be an Optimates of rank. With the backing of your conservative allies, you were elected Praetor in 53 BC. When your term was over, you exercised your rights as Propraetor and were awarded the governorship of Africa. The former Carthaginian homeland is a wealthy and fertile place, and the position you obtained is highly coveted. During your time in Africa, you have followed in the glorious tradition of the Republic, and grown vastly wealthy off of official bribes and taxes on local trade. Now that Civil War has broken you’re your material wealth will have significant material benefits.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Villa Stronghold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_villa): You are a wealthy man and own a fine villa which you have designed for security as well as comfort. Your guards are loyal and will fight to the death to protect you. So long as you remain inside your fortress home, you will be difficult to kill. You can survive one successful attack if you are inactive on the night of the attack.

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“I often regret that I have spoken; never that I have been silent.”
- Publilius Syrus

Publius Cornelius Scipio Salvito (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Cornelius_Scipio_Salvito) (Salvito)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

Gaius Julius Caesar is an impudent lout! The man is a scoundrel and a disgrace to the descendents of Romulus! That scoundrel abused his position as Pontifex Maximus and threw you out of your own position of Pontifex! The temerity! Fortunately, Rome has Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus to defend it from Caesar and the base-born Populares. That man was even so good as to let you marry his great granddaughter, Scribonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scribonia). Surely that woman could not hope to find a better match in all of Rome than you! In any case, have a political marriage with the most powerful man in Rome is nothing to sneeze at. Perhaps you could put this connection to use to get revenge on that bastard Caesar…

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Gravitas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitas): Through your marriage to his great granddaughter, you have earned the trust and respect of Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus. You know people, who know people, who know people. Even though he is in hiding, if you wish to communicate with Pompey, your connections make it possible. You may send an anonymous message to Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus twice during the game. To do this, send a PM to TinCow (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=6193). The message will be forwarded to Pompey exactly as you have written it, but with your identity removed from the QUOTE section. If Pompey wishes to respond, he can do so with a single message in the exact same fashion.

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“Nature has planted in our minds an insatiable longing to see the truth.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

Marcus Terentius Varro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Terentius_Varro) (Varro)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

Ah, Civil War is a game for young men and fools. You are neither. You are nearing 70 years old and have already achieved so much in life. Sure, sure, there was the usual cursus honorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum) progress… Tribune of the Plebs, Quaestor, Aedile, and Praetor, but that was long ago. You never did get around to the Consulship, but that was because you were doing something more important: writing! Knowledge and wisdom is all that is truly meaningful in this world, and of those you have an endless supply. This Civil War is interrupting your studies, and it’s not like you’ve got any time to waste at your age! Perhaps if you can figure out a way to end this thing, you can get back to doing something useful.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Clientela (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clientela): As a prominent Senator, you have spent a lifetime cultivating an expansive web of connections. All over Rome, men both high and low owe you great obligations. In this time of crisis, you have decided to call in one of your most valuable favors. One of your clients is well-placed inside the household of another Senator, and he will provide you with information. You may investigate alone once. The investigation will show the target's faction and whether the target was active, though not what they were doing.

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“Treat your friend as if he might become an enemy.”
- Publilius Syrus

Tiberius Claudius Nero (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberius_Nero) (Tiberius Nero)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

The gens Claudius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudius_(gens)) are nearly as old as the Republic itself, and you are a prime example of their aristocratic heritage. Your father was an ally of Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus and took a strong stand against Lucius Sergius Catilina’s failed Populares uprising. Everything you have been taught, and everything that you are, is a conservative and an Optimates in the finest traditions of Old Rome. Yet, you have always admired Gaius Julius Caesar. The man is charismatic and friendly to those who would be his friends, including you. More than once has he extended a kind word when it was unnecessary, or voiced support for you in the Senate when it was of no benefit to him. You know that there would be worse things in the world than Caesar as Dictator.

Should you wish it, you could cross over to the Populares at any time; Caesar’s blessing would surely be enough to convince all of his followers to accept you. Then again, you could also aid the dying Republic. There are few in Rome who possess your unique political flexibility, and it will allow you the freedom to chart your own course, going wherever the winds of fortune take you.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Damnatio Memoriae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae): Despite your long-standing ties to the Optimates, there has always been a part of you that has sympathized with the ideals of the Populares. Unlike most Senators, you are capable of crossing over to the other side and convincing them that the shift was sincere. Of course, such an action would only be believable once. You can switch your allegiance to the Populares at any time, but you cannot switch back. This will permanently change your role and victory conditions to those of a Populares Senator.

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”There is a demand in these days for men who can make wrong appear right.”
- Publius Terentius Afer

Faustus Cornelius Sulla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faustus_Cornelius_Sulla_(senator)) (Faustus)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

The gens Cornelius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_(gens)) is an ancient and respected family, but none of the Cornelii, indeed no single Roman, has ever had more power than that which was wielded by your father, Lucius Cornelius Sulla. You are the son of the great Dictator, and in turn much has been promised to you, and even more is expected.

You have upheld your father’s political alliances, and have been a keen supporter of Pompey for many years. Pompey was himself one of your father’s strongest allies, and so it was natural for you to back him in turn. Pompey has been generous indeed. You were given his daughter, Pompeia Magna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompeia_Magna), as your wife. You then accompanied Pompey on his campaigns in the East, and when he decided to make Judea a Roman protectorate, you were the first man over the walls of that’s city’s ancient Temple in 63 BC. In 54 BC you began your cursus honorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum) as Quaestor, and at the young age of 32, you find yourself anticipating a long and glorious career. At least, you would be if that traitor Caesar was not threatening the destruction of both the Optimates and the Republic!

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Manumission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manumission): You have several slaves in your household. For years now, you have been training one of them as a gladiator to fight for your profit. This man has become a deadly weapon, and in this time of crisis, he is a weapon that may be worth using. In return for his freedom, he will attempt to assassinate anyone you wish. You can attempt to kill another player by yourself one time.

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“The safety of the people shall be the highest law.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

Appius Claudius Pulcher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appius_Claudius_Pulcher_(consul_54_BC)) (Pulcher)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

You are a traditionalist in the purest sense of the word. Many men, including those who call themselves Optimates, adopt conservatism as a political tactic more than a personal belief. You are not one of these men. The College of Augurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augur) became your focus. The augury has long been used by corrupt politicians for political means; auspices were intentionally distorted and falsified to serve the ends of the man reading them. You boldly proclaimed that augury should be respected in its true form: adherence to the divinations without political ends.

That your extensive efforts to achieve this augury reform amounted to nothing is better forgotten. Best to ignore as well that incident in which your choice of words resulted in a minor war with Armenia. Probably best to ignore Cicero’s accusations about your corrupt practices in Cilicia as well. After all, everything you did was at least done in the traditional manner; it’s not your fault if those barbarians do not understand proper Roman customs of speech and gubernatorial compensation!

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Villa Stronghold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_villa): You are a wealthy man and own a fine villa which you have designed for security as well as comfort. Your guards are loyal and will fight to the death to protect you. So long as you remain inside your fortress home, you will be difficult to kill. You can survive one successful attack if you are inactive on the night of the attack.

Extra (Unused) Roles




POPULARES SENATOR FULL NAME (NICKNAME)
Senator
(Populares Faction)



Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Optimates Faction Members, including Pompeians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1)

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Extra Populares Senator Names:

Gaius Trebonius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Trebonius) (Trebonius)
Quintus Fufius Calenus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintus_Fufius_Calenus) (Calenus)
Quintus Fabius Maximus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintus_Fabius_Maximus_(consul_45_BC)) (Fabius Maximus)
Publius Cornelius Sulla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Cornelius_Sulla) (Cornelius Sulla)
Marcus Valerius Messalla Rufus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Valerius_Messalla_Rufus) (Messala)
Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus Marcellinus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnaeus_Cornelius_Lentulus_Marcellinus) (Marcellinus)
Publius Servilius Vatia Isauricus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Servilius_Vatia_Isauricus_(consul_48_BCE)) (Vatia)
Gaius Vibius Pansa Caetronianus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Vibius_Pansa_Caetronianus) (Pansa)
Aulus Hirtius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aulus_Hirtius) (Hirtius)
Quintus Pedius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintus_Pedius) (Pedius)
Aulus Allienus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aulus_Allienus) (Allienus)
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OPTIMATES SENATOR FULL NAME (NICKNAME)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)



Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1)

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Extra Optimates Senator Names:

Publius Nigidius Figulus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigidius_Figulus) (Nigidus)
Gaius Claudius Marcellus Minor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Claudius_Marcellus_Minor) (Marcellus Minor)
Marcus Petreius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Petreius) (Petreius)

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Neutral Senator Names:
Lucius Calpurnius Piso Caesoninus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Calpurnius_Piso_Caesoninus) (Piso)
Lucius Marcius Philippus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Marcius_Philippus) (Philippus)
Aulus Gabinius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aulus_Gabinius) (Gabinius)
Lucius Cornelius Balbus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Cornelius_Balbus_(maior)) (Balbus)
Publius Servilius Vatia Isauricus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Servilius_Vatia_Isauricus_(consul_79_BCE) (Vatia – the Elder?)

[johnhughthom]

Does the last line suggest a sequel? Or perhaps a Sulla/Marius prequel?
Thanks for the dignified end my character received TC.

[seireikhaan]

Ah, the sweet smell of victory. Well done, town.

Very nice game, TinCow. I must admit, though, that not once did I take advantage of night abilities. Guess it worked. *shrug*

[TinCow]

Does the last line suggest a sequel? Or perhaps a Sulla/Marius prequel?

Perhaps eventually, though I suspect for a sequel I would have to 'reboot' history a bit. A lot of the main players in the second civil war died in this game and I would have to resurrect them to properly populate it. In any case, a second Rome-based game won't come until after I do my original idea which is a game based around the Thirty Years War.