Stainless Steel 6.2 Hotseat - Dogs of War (completed, winner Nightbringer)

[The Lemongate]

https://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww333/CocaColaRevolution/DogsofWar.jpg

*Winner, Best Hotseat Campaign, 2010 Org Hall of Fame Awards*

*The game is finished and the Kievan Rus (Nightbringer) is the winner. Congratulations!*


Stainless Steel – Dogs of War is a hotseat campaign for SS6.2

This thread is the official OOC thread that we shall be using to post our saves and discuss the game in a friendly and relaxed fashion. All IC diplomacy should be directed to the French King’s Court (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=117451) thread. All stories and AARs related to the game should be directed to the Cry "Havoc!" (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=117453) thread.

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING OOC IN EITHER RP THREAD.

Version
- Full Medieval Total War 2 : Kingdoms patched to 1.05
- Stainless Steel 6.2 with Community Hotseat Patch 1.2

You can find the SS files here (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=159996) and the hotseat patch here (http://www.mediafire.com/?8gnejsm2nesyskw)

In patch 6.1 DO NOT SELECT ANY OPTIONS.

Rules of the game
- Each turn should be completed within 48 hours. Extensions can be granted in extenuating circumstances, at the discretion of the GM. After 48 hours with no contact from a player the GM will arrange for the turn to be subbed either by a sub designated by the player, or a neutral third-party sub, or a faction allied to that player, or by the GM in that order of preference.
- All battles, including those between player-controlled factions, may be fought by the attacking player (against the VH AI), or auto-resolved.
- No players can join or initiate a Crusade or Jihad. Those events are to be IGNORED for balance’s sake.
- Please send a private message to the next player in line to alert them that it is their turn.
- Players are requested to compete in good faith and with a sporting spirit at all times.
- No exploits. The following exploits are banned. This list is not exhaustive, and in considering a course of action the player concerned should have regard for the rule regarding sportsmanlike conduct. If there is any doubt about exactly what actions these exploits involve, or whether a given action which is not specifically banned would constitute an exploit, please seek guidance from the GM or other players before completing the relevant turn.
*** Re-loading of save game to play the turn again in a different way, or to create a different outcome.
*** Merchant fort exploit.
*** Surround and destroy exploit (relating to agents, also to armies or ships engaged in battle. An escape route of at least one tile must be left.)
*** Deliberately setting up tribute deals which will result in a faction going more than 20k in debt.
*** Deliberately exchanging territories for the sole purpose of gaining a free garrison.
*** Deliberate manipulation of the diplomacy system in order to break a siege, or achieve any other unrealistic in-game outcome.
*** Quitting a losing siege assault battle while your troops are still in the settlement so that the battle is won due to the known bug.

- It is not permitted to assault a settlement or fort under siege with an army entirely or mostly composed of cavalry if in the resulting battle the AI will sally from the settlement or fort. As a guide, the AI has been observed to sally in this situation when the strength ratio is more than 3:1 in its favour. If a player chooses to assault and then discovers the AI sallying in this way he must quit the battle and reload the save immediately before the assault, choosing instead to maintain the siege or withdraw his forces. This is the only circumstance in which reloading is permitted.

Player / Faction List
1. Kingdom of England (slysnake, formerly rouroux)
2. Kingdom of France (RexLegend, formerly Askthepizzaguy, The Lemongate)
3. The Holy Roman Empire (Thanatos Eclipse, formerly Asinus Asini)
RIP Republic of Venice (Chaotix)
5. Kingdom of Sicily (Balthor)
RIP Moorish Caliphate (Tristan de Castelreng)
RIP turn 42 Seljuk Sultanate (Zim, formerly barcamartin)
8. Fatimid Caliphate (Cecil XIX, formerly Visorslash, Zim)
9. Kingdom of Denmark (nicuurs)
10. Kingdom of Hungary (phonicsmonkey)
11. Crown of Castile (Ignoramus, formerly SilverShield)
RIP Republic of Novgorod (Quirl al-Mustafa Mubarak)
13. Kievan Rus (Nightbringer)
RIP Papal States (TheFlax)


The game will officially start on Saturday May 30. Cultured Drizzt fan, you're the first to play. Here is the save (http://download270.mediafire.com/sp929lixztug/1edohw3nxet/DoW-01-01.rar).

EDITED by phonicsmonkey for accuracy

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Alright should be able to start things off by the end of today.

[The Lemongate]

Photobucket screws my map each time I upload it, so here's (http://download749.mediafire.com/xcy55ayvny0g/kd4azlzyzzm/Stainless+Steel+Factions+Map.jpg) the file for those who would want to use it.

[Merlox]

In all previous versions of SS, You were not aloud to build forts onto resorces. But with my hotseat patch 1.1, I realized that some settlements had resorces in their way, so they could never be fully blocked off. So i have enabled forts to be placed ontop of resorces. With that, Please only put 1 merchant insdie of the fort IF you plan to use it!


Please remember the key points of this.

#1, Forts will be enabled, but they will NEVER be removed. So be Smart about placing forts! (Rebels will move into empty forts if they are near by or may spawn into empty forts.)

#2, Children cap has been enhanced to 6 instead of 4. to increase families.

#3, Balancing / Dead Settlement acts have been ensured. Any settlement below 1000 will be at 1200 population now, though, they will still be a village / castle, So BE CAREFUL about sacking very small towns! It might be better to occupy them!

Thanks!

I hope you like my Hotseat patch 1vs1, The first offical hotseat patch for SS 6.2!

Regards-

Merlox.

(PS:) your map does not work.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Lemon the link you provide isnt working.....

[Ramses II CP]

Okay, so there's actually no 'please' about the merchant fort exploit (To be explicit placing 2-20 merchants in a fort on a resource). It's an exploit, if you get caught using it there should be a form of punishment as it's a violation of the rules. Just don't use it, simple as that.

I love it that rebels will move into empty forts. That offers some interesting strategic possibilities as far as moving rebel armies into enemy territory... wait, shouldn't have let that slip eh?

:egypt:

[The Lemongate]

Lemon the link you provide isnt working.....

Sorry. Thee it should work now.



Okay, so there's actually no 'please' about the merchant fort exploit (To be explicit placing 2-20 merchants in a fort on a resource). It's an exploit, if you get caught using it there should be a form of punishment as it's a violation of the rules. Just don't use it, simple as that.

I love it that rebels will move into empty forts. That offers some interesting strategic possibilities as far as moving rebel armies into enemy territory... wait, shouldn't have let that slip eh?

:egypt:


I simply copied phonics' post for BC. The point is, you get caught doing something fishy, you get punished. But we're all good, honest people here. So that shouldn't happen!

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

:no: nope still not working, the link says the file is invalid.

[The Lemongate]

Hmmm... well it works for me. Here (http://rapidshare.com/files/238689073/Stainless_Steel_Factions_Map.jpg.html), try it on RapidShare.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ahhhh, I meant for the Save file, but the map had the same problem. could you load the save somwhere else?

[The Lemongate]

Here (http://rapidshare.com/files/238691951/DoW-01-01.rar.html)you go!

Ah yes, and it's DoW-doubledigitturnnumber-doubledigitfactionnumber.

So When you save it should be DoW-01-02

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ok well, the game hasnt started but I am done!
France (http://files.filefront.com/DoW+01+02zip/;13825211;/fileinfo.html)

[The Lemongate]

The Saturday date was mostly to give everyone ample notice and to make corrections in case things popped up.

[Asinus Asini]

All good.


1. Kingdom of England (rouroux)
2. Kingdom of France (Quirl al-Mustafa Mubarak)
3. The Holy Roman Empire (Asinus Asini)
4. Republic of Venice (Chaotix)
5. Kingdom of Sicily (Balthor)
6. Moorish Caliphate (TheFlax)
7. Seljuk Sultanate (barcamartin)
8. Fatimid Caliphate (Zim)
9. Kingdom of Denmark (nicuurs)
10. Kingdom of Hungary (phonicsmonkey)
11. Crown of Castile (SilverShield)
12. Kievan Rus (Nightbringer)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

hey lemongate, does our current treaty include trade rights? I couldnt get a diplomat over there on the first turn, so I am just making sure what I should be asking for.

[The Lemongate]

Yeah it does. I'm pretty sure my princess can reach Caen turn 1. So I'll offer alliance, trade rights, map info.

[The Lemongate]

Holy Roman Empire (http://download682.mediafire.com/gxj0mcw2ktrg/zgyjmd0ymzq/DoW-01-03.rar)

My princess couldn't make it this turn. She's right outside Caen if you can reach her.

[Asinus Asini]

Venice (http://rapidshare.com/files/239083296/DoW-01-04.rar.html)


Player list

1. Kingdom of England (rouroux)
2. Kingdom of France (Quirl al-Mustafa Mubarak)
3. The Holy Roman Empire (Asinus Asini)
4. Republic of Venice (Chaotix)
5. Kingdom of Sicily (Balthor)
6. Moorish Caliphate (TheFlax)
7. Seljuk Sultanate (barcamartin)
8. Fatimid Caliphate (Zim)
9. Kingdom of Denmark (nicuurs)
10. Kingdom of Hungary (phonicsmonkey)
11. Crown of Castile (SilverShield)
12. Kievan Rus (Nightbringer)

[TheFlax]

Byznatium (http://www.mediafire.com/?2n2z2juy2yn)

[rouroux]

Moors i choose YOU (http://rapidshare.com/files/239435792/DoW-01-06.rar.html)

[Ramses II CP]

The Turks are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/noojx4zw3z4/DoW-01-07.zip

:egypt:

[Nightbringer]

I'd love to play, I'll take Kieven Rus if thats okay.

[Merlox]

Yes! Nightbringer! He is from the TWcenter, a VERY dedicated and very fun person to play with!

and YES! either Kievan Rus or Novogord is perfect!

Lemongate, If you want, You can go on while my turn is going and enable him, or just tell me to enable him. :o

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

wow, that is perfect, we now have a player in every major area of the map!

[barcamartin]

Fatimids up!

http://rapidshare.com/files/239567587/DoW-01-08.zip.html

[The Lemongate]

Here (http://rapidshare.com/files/239657854/DoW-01-08a.rar.html) is the new Fatimid save. I've enabled the Kievan Rus for Nightbringer.

Welcome to the org! And welcome to the game Nightbringer!

[Merlox]

I was JUST about to upload my turn... I hope i can do what I just did...

(I got into Kerak with a spy and defeated their army ingame with my army ._.;)

Sorry to be a bother, but could you do it on monkey's turn? (He's not gonna be able to play till the 7th, currect?)

[The Lemongate]

No problem. Here's (http://rapidshare.com/files/239680520/DoW-01-09a.rar.html) the new Hungarian save.

[phonicsmonkey]

I should be able to find time tonight..

[Ignoramus]

I can't download any of the SS files from Filefront. It just redirects me to the homepage. What should I do?

[Merlox]

download them from another site. I can't download any thing from file front as wel.

[phonicsmonkey]

Aragon (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d5c30105fd8107a6bda4076e811714c8dba000c969cbd32dc95965eaa7bc68bc)

[Ignoramus]

Also, shouldn't we send our passwords to Lemon, just in case one of us drops out suddenly?

[phonicsmonkey]

Can't hurt - although he can just reset the passwords using the console anyway.

[Merlox]

If one of us is expected to leave for some time.

I might be leaving for July 27 - Augest 14, I donno if i can bring a computer not, If so, I will tell who ever will be subbing me my password, And I expect the pass to be the same when i get back.

But if some one just decides to drop the ball and quit this game, The host in my opinion has full rights to remove his password for a new player.

[Ramses II CP]

My password is the same as in all my hotseat games, half the people playing probably know it. :laugh4:

I'm going to be out of town starting the 6th until the 4th of July weekend, but I expect to have some 'net access while we're at the beach, I just don't know how reliable. I will keep up with things.

:egypt:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ok.... I had to uninstall SS so I can get BC working and now I cant get the SS link to work, I think something is wrong with filefront, could someone dowload it to a diffrent uploader?

[Merlox]

Why would it do that... SS is kingdoms and BC is Medieval... 2 completely different base programs

Medieval dos not extend above 1.3....

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I know, I am trying to install them in seperate folders, but the link on the first page of this thread to the SS mod is not working, it just brings me to the file front homepage. I just need a working link to the mod and patches.

I am not sure why it is doing it, but I may as well put them in separate folders.

[Merlox]

you need to re-download the SS mod? -_-;

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

yes, I am installing everything from scratch.

[Merlox]

The Install isn't bad, Don't re-download the mod. lol X_x;

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I have already gotten rid of everything and am reinstalling now. If someone could re upload the mod to somewhere that would be great, at some point, though I wont need it until my turn.

[The Lemongate]

If you find nothing else, I'll try to upload everything in the coming days. Big day today and big day tomorrow. I'm hoping thursday'll be a bit quieter.

[nicuurs]

Hello.

I want to join in as Danemark, if you still need players.

[Merlox]

We are nearing our dead line for this turn... What is happening?

[The Lemongate]

Ignoramus, your PMs are full!

Do you need an alternate to the SS game files?

[Ignoramus]

I'm about to do it guys, sorry for the long time. I didn't have much time to install yesterday.

[The Lemongate]

Good once you've done your game, send the save to me. I'll add nicuurs as the Danes before Nightbringer plays his turn.

Welcome to the game nicuurs!

[Merlox]

nicuurs, do you have the game fully installed already? Just wondering, due to one of us could easily sub you, All of us are very eager to play our turns.

[Nightbringer]

almost my turn, yay! i just wanted to say that im really excited for this game and love how active the diplomacy thread is. i hope things stay this way! :)

[nicuurs]

Yes, I have the game installed and ready :).

[Ignoramus]

I feel lonely in Iberia. You'll have to keep me company Lemon.

[phonicsmonkey]

yes, I have all the friends in Eastern Europe, surrounding me all friendly like

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Eastern Europe is going to be quite the battle ground. most people will have no where to expand to but through other factions.

[Merlox]

thats good. but yeah... Where is this save from aragon?

[Merlox]

sorry to double post but... Ignoramus?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Considering the forums are down I think we can cut him some slack. I can only get on using a proxy.

[Merlox]

The fourms have been down? Uhh... not for me... >.>; but my friend said it was down as well, Very Strange.

[The Lemongate]

Yeah forums are down. They can be accessed through proxy though it's a drag.

Anyone who has an account at TWC, please PM me there.

Merlox, please let me moderate. If Igno's doesn't post his turn 12h after the forums are back up, I'll sub it and pass it on.

[Nightbringer]

yay, forums are back up, for me at least. Althoguh now twc is down for me. anyway, ya, i should be ready to play my turn as soon as i get the save :)

[Merlox]

TWcenter is still down though, Is it strange that both sites went down at the same time?

[Nightbringer]

i was looking around and i saw something on another forum that they may have both been hacked. i have no clue as to the legitimacy of that thoguh

[The Lemongate]

Well, since the org seems back up in some form, I'm giving Igno 12h to finish and post his save or I'll just sub it and post it tonight.

I'll also activate the Danes for nicuurs. And then we can get this thing rolling again!

[Ignoramus]

Sorry guys, I was about to post before the forums went down.

I downloaded everything but the 1.5 patch, and then my download cut out. So It would take me forever to download the 100 MB patch.

[The Lemongate]

So Igno, I'll sub your first turn and send you a report. You'll be plenty ready for turn 2 I'm sure.

[The Lemongate]

nicuurs, Denmark (http://download135.mediafire.com/21bjdqoehzog/g4vm2zytxnm/DoW-01-11.rar) is up!

[nicuurs]

Well, my first turn is over.
Kiev (http://rapidshare.com/files/242147283/DoW-01-12.rar)is up.

[Nightbringer]

will play it in about 5 hours when i get home from work

[Nightbringer]

England up!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0BUQAYRX

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

still need a link to the SS mod...... and the patches......

[Merlox]

6.0
http://files.filefront.com/Stainless+Steel+60+Pt1of2exe/;10047151;/fileinfo.html
http://files.filefront.com/Stainless+Steel+60+Pt2of2exe/;10043111;/fileinfo.html

or

6.0 Part 1
http://rapidshare.com/files/214723697/Stainless_Steel_6.0_Pt1of2.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/214746424/Stainless_Steel_6.0_Pt1of2.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/214997693/Stainless_Steel_6.0_Pt1of2.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/215855781/Stainless_Steel_6.0_Pt1of2.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/215848411/Stainless_Steel_6.0_Pt1of2.part5.rar
SS 6.0 Part 2

http://rapidshare.com/files/215856120/Stainless_Steel_6.0_Pt2of2.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/215856131/Stainless_Steel_6.0_Pt2of2.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/215855305/Stainless_Steel_6.0_Pt2of2.part3.rar

or

6.0
http://www.gamershell.com/download_31202.shtml (SS 6.0 Part 1)
http://www.gamershell.com/download_31204.shtml (SS 6.0 Part 2)

Then

SS 6.1
http://rapidshare.com/files/212146070/Stainless_Steel_6.1_Patch.exe
WHEN YOU INSTALL MAKE SURE YOU UNCLICK ALL SUBMODS!!!

or

6.1
http://files.filefront.com/Stainless+Steel+611+Patchexe/;13836342;/fileinfo.html

Then

SS 6.2
http://rapidshare.com/files/226681480/Stainless_Steel_6.2_RC4.rar

THEN

Hotseat patch 1.1
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44412&d=1244575578

Then your finished

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ok should be able to have things up and running today.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ok we have a issue, I cant use the file front download, and the rapidshare just leaves me with a bunch of RAR files that don't appear to want to be extracted.... Could someone sub my turn? I have some troops crosing the channel from Caen that I want put in London and Rufus should move north to besiege york. recruit a spearmen in London and a spearmen in whatever castle is on the isle....
now I have to go figure out what the hell to do.

[Merlox]

lol, the Rapid share will turn all of the parts into 1 single folder AFTER install. =p

2 parts to be exact, part 1 and part 2.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

well it is not letting me DO the install, I try to turn extract them from RAR and I get a Error message. I found an alternate link, should have it all downloaded in a hour.

[The Lemongate]

I'll sub your turn and let the game move on if nothing has happened until tomorrow morning.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ok everything done but the hotsea mod, which has a broken link someone reupload it? (you cant see it because there are no smilies, but I am really angry right now)

[Merlox]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44412&d=1244575578

Hotseat patch 1.1, it works for me.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

OK, everything set.... except I think that is the wrong save, it says Kievan rus when I load it up. (yep definitely Kievan rus, same number save 1-12, and everything)

[The Lemongate]

Yep. Checked it. It's nightbringer's starting position.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

least It means I haven't missed anything! :p

[The Lemongate]

To get this moving I subbed the first of Nightbringer's turn after sending him a PM 24h ago.

England. (http://rapidshare.com/files/243933112/DoW-02-01.rar.html) You have officially 48h but if you can make it sooner all the better. This first turn was slow. Lets keep this rolling people.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

shall be done within the hour!
and so it is, France is up (http://files.filefront.com/DoW+02+02zip/;13894034;/fileinfo.html)

[The Lemongate]

HRE (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zgyjmd0ymzq)

[Nightbringer]

gah, that was stupid, i played my turn right before having to leave the house for about 48 hours. :P oh well, im sure you did a good job on the sub and its just the first turn. thanks and sorry about the delay, it wont happen again

[Merlox]

Lemongate, I was wondering if you could do something for me, Nightbringer said that my newest hotseat 1.1 patch gives a "CTD" in some early turns. This could greatly hurt our game, If you could, Either post the very first turn with no passwords, or spam the turns until you see the CTD, and then send the person right before the CTD to me, If there is a CTD, i'll try to my best of ability to resolve the solution.

thanks,

Merlox.

[Asinus Asini]

Venice (http://rapidshare.com/files/244809048/DoW-02-04.sav.html)

[TheFlax]

Byzantines (http://rapidshare.com/files/245579599/DoW-02-05.zip.html)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

bump......

[rouroux]

I'm sorry I won't be able to play until at least sunday, so Lemon can subb my turn if you guys get too impatient!

[rouroux]

The Moors are up, like a boss (http://rapidshare.com/files/247208038/Dow-02-06.rar.html)

[Ramses II CP]

I'm working on this now, my net connection out here is spotty so it's difficult to get anything uploaded. Will have it by tonight midnight eastern or please skip me.

:egypt:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

so uhhhhh, is anyone there?

[Ramses II CP]

I will not be able to upload a file from here, so my turn will have to be skipped. Sorry guys.

:egypt:

[The Lemongate]

Can't do it now. Will skip it tomorrow if you can't post it by then.

[phonicsmonkey]

I can skip it for you in 2hrs if you pm me the admin pw or Ramses' pw. Don't have time to sub it though, sorry Ramses...

[phonicsmonkey]

Sweljuks (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d5c30105fd8107a6bda4076e811714c8594be10fcf900419ce018c8114394287)

[The Lemongate]

Aaaargh! I want some breathing time to write some AARs!!! Damn you real life! Damn you I say!!!

[barcamartin]

Fatimids up! :)

http://rapidshare.com/files/248899499/Dow-02-08.sav.html

[Ramses II CP]

My password, by the way, is the same in all hotseats. Everyone probably knows it; if I have to trust you all not to cheat in the ways allowed by the broken MTWII engine I might as well trust you not to cheat by using my PW. ;)

:egypt:

[Merlox]

Crap. >.<; Sorry, I'll do this turn asap. T.T;

Edit: AHHHH even worst

"You have reached the download limit for free-users. Would you like more?"

i can't download from here? -_-;

[The Lemongate]

Here ya go on FileFront. (http://files.filefront.com/Dow+02+08rar/;13942423;/fileinfo.html)

[Merlox]

Hey guys, I'm having some upload difficulties, but please note that My turn is done, While i'm waiting for my dumb internet to work again, I want you all to do me a favor, Please if you have time, play a campaign by yourself. See if a CTD happens? If it does, please send me the turn before it. I've heard 1 person say it gives a CTD, and if it is so, then this Hotseat is in very big trouble / danger, luckily, we are still right at the start and that means i can easily modify the start so every one is at location at they were at the start of turn 3!

Thanks if you do help me,

Regards-

Merlox.

[phonicsmonkey]

Merlox, I have a SP campaign at around turn 4 or 5 with no CTD so far. Do you want me to hit end turn a few times to see what happens? Which turn was the CTD that was reported to you?

If I have time later I can investigate a little.

[Merlox]

The things what i changed, Was economies, starting locations, "No Dead Cities", Forts enabled, and Forts stay forever, and crusade / jihad movements modifiers had been downed from 2.5 to 1.5

So far all of these have been tested, The one that that has not been tested yet.

Is the Children cap 4 to 6. (To help prevent family death and faction turning rebels)

So, if that is the problem, I can easily fix that. and be able to copy / paste all of the current progress this game has done into a new game. where the children cap is back to 4.

It has to be the children cap if there is, I played 25 turns with out the game fail, but night bringer said there is a crash, and this game with out the hotseat patch is garenteed 300+ turns with out crash.

(I'm trying really hard to upload this turn... mayeb it be better if phonics, get MSN or .live messenger and get it from me, or any one... For some reason my websites been having a MAJOR problem while every other online application seems fine and lag free.) -_- I am sorry for the delay I am causing.

[phonicsmonkey]

Merlox, I have just pm'd you my email address - send me the save there if you can.

I don't have any of those messenger thingummies, I think I'm a bit long in the tooth for that stuff :embarassed:

EDIT: by the way, I'm sorry but I don't think I have time to play the SP campaign long enough to test the children cap...I have a 7 month old son who is keeping me pretty busy in RL at the moment!

[Nightbringer]

ya, i was consistently having games stop working after about 10 turns. this occured in two games i already had and three new ones i started. after removing the hotseat patch i was able to continue from where the crash occured without difficulty. it may have just been a system specific problem for me though

[The Lemongate]

K this is stalling a bit too much. If it's not on in 24h I'll have to skip the turn, sorry Merlox.

In other news, I've been contacted by someone on TWC, Balthor, who would like to join. No faction precision yet, I'm just asking on principle. The campaign is started, though we're only on turn 3 (going on turn 4). I'd allow it, but please, vote in this thread in the next 48h (yes - no - abstain - by simple majority).

[TheFlax]

yes

[phonicsmonkey]

EDIT: by the way, I don't have the save yet

[Merlox]

I am so sorry guys, I have fixed my Internet, I am thankful of how patient you all are, and again, sorry!

the save should be under

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46726&d=1246416091

Please if we could find out if Nightbringer's bug is just his system, or a very big problem, It would be something that /could/ save this hotseat if found out early enough.

[The Lemongate]

Merlox, why don't you use the starting save I posted for Cultured (http://rapidshare.com/files/238691951/DoW-01-01.rar.html). It has no pw entered. Personally, I've finished a Kievan Rus SP and had no problems. But I'm not sure about the family tree.

[Merlox]

Thank you Lemongate, As you know, I am 100% trying to make this hotseat, the best hotseat ever, that is why when I hear of a problem that nightbringer says, It put's me on high alert to find if this problem is a bug on my side with the hotseat patch, or hotseat patch that makes hotseats amazing.

I even found out my recent 1.1 patch makes rebels seem alive, As I was Lithuania, expanding my empire, Rebels attacked my very low garrisoned towns! this was a first!

any ways, I am glad to hear that Lemongate had no problems, it makes me rest at easy for now.

[phonicsmonkey]

Rebels attacked my very low garrisoned towns!

Even more reason to EXTERMINATE ALL REBELS!

[phonicsmonkey]

Aragon (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d5c30105fd8107a6bda4076e811714c840ea546b837f838d5621d66e282a0ee8)

[nicuurs]

I also have problems in singleplayer. I started 2 campaigns, one with the templars, one with the english and both crashed. I hope this multiplayer campaign will be free of such things.

[The Lemongate]

I have been forced to sub a second time for Ignoramus who's away for the weekend.

Here's Denmark. (http://rapidshare.com/files/251564922/Dow-02-11.rar.html)

If Igno doesn't return to play his third turn, I'll set the faction to AI. I believe it would be good to have a rule: someone is absent 3 turns in a row, he's out of the game.

Also, I've allowed Balthor from TWC to join in if he wishes to.

[Balthor]

Greetings,

Thanks for allowing a late arrival. I shall update for Hotseat1.1 and be ready to start turn 4.

<salute>

[Balthor]

I just got the faction confirmation: Kingdom of Sicily

[The Lemongate]

Welcome to the game! I'll nab the save from nicuurs as soon as he posts it to activate Sicily!

Now time for some diplomacing with the newest arrival!

[Zim]

I don't think I could get SS in time to play the current turn, but if you don't want to drop Denmark right away I could likely sub their next few.

[nicuurs]

Kiev's (http://rapidshare.com/files/251989246/DoW-02-12.rar)turn.

[The Lemongate]

Dont upload.


I'll add in Sicily first!

[Chaotix]

Hey, guys!

Too bad I didn't see this thread before the game began, or I might have joined. As it is, I would be happy to play as a sub for any player that decides to drop out of the game- just send me a pm to notify me if you need me.

Thanks!

:2thumbsup:

[The Lemongate]

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

The game is on turn 2 and it seems that we have indeed a problem with the Hotseat 1.1 Patch. We have 2 options:

1- cross our fingers and hope we're not hit by the 6 children bug

2- restart the hotseat since we're only on turn 2



I'd go with restarting the hotseat but will allow everyone to discuss this.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I say we restart it, and fix whatever bug there is with the patch.
No reason to tempt fate and play another 4 turns just to have the whole thing fall apart, we only did 2 turns, if we hurry up we can get back to where we are fast enough :yes:

[Ramses II CP]

I vote restart as well. We're not far enough in to have any major developments on the board.

:egypt:

[Chaotix]

What is the "six children bug"?

If I recall correctly (because I just read it yesterday :laugh4:), Merlox's "hotseat mod" enables the ability to have six children instead of four. So perhaps this "bug" was intended after all? Unless we're talking about something different here...

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

yeah, the problem is that when you get 6 children it crashes. (at least I think so)

[Chaotix]

So... why would we even put it in the game to begin with if it was going to crash? :inquisitive:

Perhaps we should compromise and make it a 5 children cap?

If we restart, then I can join too... so if my vote for some reason counts, then that's where it's going! :laugh4:

[The Lemongate]

The problem seems to be as soon as it goes over 4 which is what the original game makes it. So the children mod in the patch will have to be removed before we can restart.

[Merlox]

First of all, I want to appologize on how this has ruined one of our games. The thing is, the "6 children bug" was intended, I had did a 40 turn test run, and no crashes, So i assumed it worked, sadly, The game will garentee to crash once a family has 5 or 6 children, The thing is, It's TOTALY random.

Some cases say the game crashes as soon as turn 9, but others, at turn 116.

The problem can be fixed VERY EASILY

This is part of the file that i changed. In a long long text file, the problem is BOLDED.

<family_tree>
<max_age uint="90"/>
<max_age_for_marriage_for_male uint="50"/>
<max_age_for_marriage_for_female uint="45"/>
<max_age_before_death uint="91"/>
<max_age_of_child uint="10"/>
<old_age uint="55"/>
<age_of_manhood uint="14"/>
<daughters_age_of_consent uint="14"/>
<daughters_retirement_age uint="45"/>
<age_difference_min int="-10"/>
<age_difference_max int="35"/>
<parent_to_child_min_age_diff uint="12"/>
<min_adoption_age uint="15"/>
<max_adoption_age uint="20"/>
<max_age_for_conception uint="50"/>
<age_of_manhood_close uint="16"/>
<max_number_of_children uint="6"/>
</family_tree>

All i simply need to do is change that 6 to 4, and the game be crash free, I did a bunch of other changes, such as adoption age, (I always thought if you were going to adopt, adopt at a young age 15-20, not some 48 year old.

So... Yeah, I can simply make it so the game starts off with all of our current settlements / forces (rounded due to i have to make perfect sizes), also i can make exact agents with exact skills. also I can do any buildings you built already into it. As we are entering onto turn 3, alot of the 1st buildings would have been done.

I can do that all withen 1 day, since we are only on turn 2.

But if you wish to restart, I can do that as well!

any ways, Again, I am sorry about this mess, This is my fault entirely for not throughly checking the children possibility, I did it due to the fact that people have had problems getting killed out by assassins, or not having enough generals for admins and war generals, so i thought this would solve it...

Any ways,

Regards-

Merlox.

[Nightbringer]

im fine with just restarting since we are so early in the game.

[phonicsmonkey]

I'm fine to restart - no need to make Merlox do so much work..can we have an honour system in place that everyone will just replicate their previous moves as closely as possible?

That way we can avoid having to do diplomacy all over again..

[Chaotix]

If you guys are restarting, can I start from the beginning as well?

I'll take Ireland, if possible.

[Merlox]

It would be very little work, just be 4-5 hours at max. I'm out of school for now, so I can easily do it, and save us 3-4 weeks... x_x;

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I am tempted to agree with him, it would have us a few weeks....

I think Ireland is open.
I am so screwed now...... :sweatdrop::sweatdrop:

[phonicsmonkey]

It would be very little work, just be 4-5 hours at max. I'm out of school for now, so I can easily do it, and save us 3-4 weeks... x_x;

I have no objection to it if Lemon decides it's what he wants for the game.

[Nightbringer]

okay, well if you really dont mind. thank you merlox :)

[Chaotix]

I am tempted to agree with him, it would have us a few weeks....

I think Ireland is open.
I am so screwed now...... :sweatdrop::sweatdrop:


You're playing England, I presume? :laugh4:

Don't worry too much, I'm not the best of players. I honestly doubt I'll survive very long, especially with tiny Ireland. But that'll make it more fun, of course!

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

how Ironic, neither am I! :laugh4:
maybe we can cut a deal, create the UK a bit earlier than intended!

[TheFlax]

I think I'm going to drop this, too many things going on, especially with KotF starting soon. Consider Venice open to be taken by someone else, or not since with Sicily taken there is an italian faction.

Best of luck to everyone. :yes:

[Chaotix]

Hrmm.... Ireland would be cool, but Venice is a favorite faction of mine, and I work very well with their armies...

If you are seriously going to quit, TheFlax, I'd be happy to take over as Venice instead.

*Sigh* So much for backstabbing CDF when he least expected it...

:clown:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

thank GOD. I want the isles all to myself thank you very much :laugh4:

[The Lemongate]

Hmm, the question is, Merlox, can you replicate buildings that are only 1/2 constructed? I'm thinking along the lines Ballista Maker (or whatever it's called) or Brothels (which are 3 turns to build so would be 2/3 done).

If you can replicate this, then fine let us do it. If you can't I'd say we restart. It is much more fair that way.

[phonicsmonkey]

If you can't I'd say we restart. It is much more fair that way.

Agreed - it'd be great if you can exactly replicate what has happened so far, but if you can't then we should restart.

We're only two turns in and if we all knuckle down we can get them done quickly and move on.

[Merlox]

the thing is, we are done with turn 2, which would be turn 3 now.... Right?
Brothels and any building should be done.

things won't be 100% exact, but things will be 95% exact, like i said, It saves us 3-4 weeks worth of re-doing.

I can even do the half done buildings. I just need to see the file, and if i can't do it, i'll tell you, but i'm pretty sure I can do this.

Regards-

Merlox.

[phonicsmonkey]

the thing is, we are done with turn 2, which would be turn 3 now.... Right?


Not quite - Kiev and Sicily have yet to play their turn 2

[TheFlax]

Hrmm.... Ireland would be cool, but Venice is a favorite faction of mine, and I work very well with their armies...

If you are seriously going to quit, TheFlax, I'd be happy to take over as Venice instead.

*Sigh* So much for backstabbing CDF when he least expected it...

:clown:

Consider it yours then. :yes:

If you want, I can brief you on Venice's current diplomatic state.

[Merlox]

well, kiev and sicily should do there thing, so i can start on turn 3. we are pretty much done with turn 2.

[nicuurs]

If Merlox can do his magic, I say we let him and continue the game. If not, or if the workload is too much, we should restart. If we restart, one idea is that everyone takes 2 factions, so the time between turns is less then 1 week. Opinions?

[Balthor]

Hello all,

I am ok with any solution. I did not played the last 3 turns after all.

<salute>

[phonicsmonkey]

ok, so here's where we are (as far as I can see):

1 - Lemon needs to add Sicily as a human-controlled faction and post the save for Kiev.

2 - Kiev and Sicily need to play their 2nd turn.

3 - Then Merlox will take the save and try to replicate what we have all done so far, before posting a new save game for us to restart with.

4 - Then Merlox needs to post the new hotseat patch for us all to install

5 - Then if he has been able to replicate, we will start from his new save game file.

6 - If he has not, then Lemon will post a new Turn 1 save game file for us and we'll restart the game.

EDIT: Let's get this done quickly so we can push on with the game asap!

EDIT2: And let me know if there's anything I can do to help..

[Merlox]

I need to know the admin password so i can easily go around the turns, and seeing what every one has done, and seeing if it's possible or not to start with.

2nd, the patch will be out asap.

[The Lemongate]

Acutally, for fairness' sake and since there are some changes we can't really replicate like Venice being played by a new player, I believe we should restart this hotseat from scrap.

The diplomacy thread will stand as is, but as soon as Merlox can replace the patch without the "children bug" I will restart the game and post England's starting turn.

Let's make this happen ASAP!

[Merlox]

As you wish lemongate.

I now announce, that SS 6.2 hotseat patch 1.2 RELEASED!

It have many new improvements, Such as the fatal 6 child crash is now gone, but to try to still put it in it's place, Every faction's leader / heir at the START has the trait of Fertile +3 (They will pop out babies like mad) to try to get the game going a healthy start, also to say

This also has the new and improved "No Dead Settlement". So instead of population having more than a 1000, and still being villages, In this patch, there is 0 villages, and 0 motte and baileys!

I was tempted to put the Roman Empire's faction leader as Imbred +5, and I Profane +5, sadly, that woulda been mean, but king of france already had "girls' trait already in there... guess theres no harm done then, eh? XD

any ways, heres SS 6.2 hotseat patch 1.2
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47327&d=1246947417

Let's start a new one, but I still could have easily replicated this. =/

[Chaotix]

It may be better this way... you never know, my starting strategy may be dramatically different from TheFlax's.

Or, that could just be me saying I'm going to screw it up royally. :laugh4:

By the way, will this be savegame-compatible?

[The Lemongate]

HERE IS THE STARTING SAVE FOR ENGLAND: Dogs of War Start (http://rapidshare.com/files/253065182/DoW2-01-01.rar.html)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ok give me about an half an hour and it will be done!

[The Lemongate]

Good I want to be able to start today my invasion force for Hungary and Turkey.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Done, France is up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4906)

[The Lemongate]

HRE (http://rapidshare.com/files/253093721/DoW2-01-03.rar.html)

[barcamartin]

Good I want to be able to start today my invasion force for Hungary and Turkey.

Oh geez, you're really that pissed? :)

[The Lemongate]

You enjoy it don't you?

[barcamartin]

To be honest, I don't. Not at all.

[The Lemongate]

Honesty is refreshing, coming from you.

[barcamartin]

Oh c'mon! Get over it, will you. It's just a game. I don't enjoy you calling me a dishonest and stupid person, if that's what you wanted to know. As far as I know, I haven't made any attacks against your person. If I have, I apologize.

Now, it's bed time for me. See you in the morrow, sire.

[The Lemongate]

As far as I can tell, all dealings I've had with you were IC and yes totally dishonest. As for stupid, I've never called you stupid.

This is tiresome. Whether or not I indeed decide to invade you from halfway accross the world in this or any other game is, to put it your words, just a game. Woe to me if it's ridiculous and/or stupid.

And for the record, no, I don't actually intend to carry out such whimsical threats. Sorry if you did take them personally.

[barcamartin]

Whatever.. Moving on! :)

[Asinus Asini]

venice is up (http://rapidshare.com/files/253576139/DoW2-01-04.rar.html)

[phonicsmonkey]

did Chaotix get a pm to let him know it's his turn?

[Chaotix]

I just got back from an unexpected trip;

I'll be downloading the patch and playing my turn within an hour.

[phonicsmonkey]

hi guys - sorry for the off-topic post, but we're looking for a replacement player in the BC hotseat to take over the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

PM me or post in the BC game thread if you're interested - first come first served!

[Chaotix]

Ok, everyone, I'm having trouble loading up the save, so correct me if I've done something wrong here...

Installed SS 6.0 parts 1 and 2 (done beforehand)
Installed Patch 6.1 with no options selected. (as in all boxes blank)
Installed Patch 6.2 (after downloading WinRAR to extract it...)
Downloaded and extracted Merlox's hotseat patch into SS's /data directory.
Extracted the save, placed it in the saves folder, and tried to load.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

is it the new hot-seat patch or the old one?
I really have no idea.

[Chaotix]

I believe it's the new one, because I used the link he posted on this page.

EDIT: I don't want to put the blame on anyone else necessarily, but if there is nothing wrong with what I've done, it could have been Asinus before me... I will download the first save (England) and see if I can load it.

[The Lemongate]

Did you dl the patch from the first post or from Merlox's post somewhere in the last page?

I had forgot to update the first post with the 1.2 hotseat patch. I've done it now. If you put the 1.1 hotseat patch that might explain the bug.

[Chaotix]

Nope, it's the patch on this page, not the one in the beginning. Although the original save doesn't work either, meaning it's me that's done something wrong....

I really don't want to do a fresh reinstall of SS right now...

[The Lemongate]

I could be wrong here, but we all had 1.1 installed and installed 1.2 over it. That could also be the reason. We'd need a link to 1.1 though.

[Chaotix]

ah... I'll try to find Merlox's 1.1 and dl that- it's probably the problem.

EDIT: Assuming you already edited it out of the original post.

EDIT AGAIN: No dice. I can't find Merlox's patch because it's not attached to a TWC post, it's just hostead somewhere there. I'd appreciate a new link of the old patch Merlox, if you could, please.

[Merlox]

You must over write every one that is in that folder.

England works fine for me as well.

it should not matter, due to hotseat patch 1.2 replaces ALL of 1.1

Also, last but not least, You must have NO SUB MODS.

[Chaotix]

I've done all of this, what you said...

Ok, If you guys give me a few hours, I'll try to do a fresh reinstall of Stainless Steel, and then add on all of the various patches and submods. I'll try to get this save done today.

[Chaotix]

Ok, I've done a complete fresh reinstall and I still can't open that save file. Something's up here, and I suspect it may be with the instructions. When I installed, I left all optional checkboxes blank, because the instructions say with no options selected. This, however, did include the option that said "remove Byg II supply system". So I do have the supply system, because I left the box unchecked. Should I have the supply system or not?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

huh, I have no idea. Have you tried some of the other saves and seen if they work?

[Chaotix]

huh, I have no idea. Have you tried some of the other saves and seen if they work?

Ok. Easy question. Does your install of SS have the supply system? If you don't know for sure, you can check to see if your characters have traits like "Army Fully Supplied".

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

yes it does.

[Chaotix]

Well, then, I have no idea what is wrong.

Merlox, perhaps you could provide a link for the 1.1 Patch anyway? Then I could extract that, followed by the 1.2 Patch again, and see if it works...

[Merlox]

the 1.1 patch is the same exact files as 1.2, just modified, so if you did install 1.2 over 1.1, you would just be replacing the new files, which have no differences...

ALSO...

is your kingdoms 1.5?

[Chaotix]

:inquisitive:

Gah. I just checked, and that was the problem. For some reason, I'm still running 1.4, although I could've sworn I patched up already.

:laugh4:

All that trouble with SS, and the problem was with M2TW! I apologize, I'll patch to 1.5 and get this done ASAP.

[Chaotix]

Sicily's turn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4912) is up.

[Balthor]

Greetings,

The Byzantine Empire next


http://rapidshare.com/files/254769121/DoW2-01-06.rar.html (The Byzantine Empire Save)

[]s

[phonicsmonkey]

Hi guys - I'll be away from 17th July to 11th August with no SS access.

Ramses will sub for me while I'm gone (thanks Ramses!)

[Ramses II CP]

It would help my memory if the player before Hungary could PM me when they come up. :2thumbsup:

:egypt:

[Balthor]

Greetings,

I just saw that my last turn to the Empeor has already reached the download limit. I can re-post it if needed.

<salute>

[rouroux]

Sorry for the delay! Here we are --> Moors are up! (http://rapidshare.com/files/255468586/DoW2-01-07.rar.html)

[Ramses II CP]

The Seljuk Turks are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/z2ygz0jz2nm/DoW2-01-08.zip

:egypt:

[barcamartin]

Fatimids up:

http://rapidshare.com/files/255694766/DoW2-01-09.zip.html

[Merlox]

Denmark is up!

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48298&d=1247616902

Also, the official diplomat will make these stops in order.

1 Iraklion (To establish trade rights with Venice)
2 Cornith (To establish trade rights with ERE)
3 Rome (He will remain there.)

[nicuurs]

Hungary (http://rapidshare.com/files/256033852/DoW2-01-11.rar)is up.

Godspeed.

[phonicsmonkey]

Aragon (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d5c30105fd8107a6bda4076e811714c8083f250129cacabcce018c8114394287)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

A heads up to everyone, I am leaving on Sunday to go camping and will not be back for a week. Someone may have to sub my turn...... I just want my army near my castle to Besiege the Rebel town just north of me. and I want the army stuck on the boats in the channel to enter London. I want some economic buildings done, I don't think I need any buildings done...... just recruit some bowmen in my castle and spear men in London. that should be about it.....:yes:

[The Lemongate]

It is the third time Ignoramus doesn't play his turn within the allocated amount of time. I have sent him 2 messages which he has read and not answered and he has been online and active in the KotF subforums.

I have no other choice than to set Aragon to AI.

Kievan Rus (http://download799.mediafire.com/3hbkuznjwljg/mkqyyeyjzym/DoW2-01-12.rar)

[Chaotix]

Shame. He's just about dropped Asterix Mafia as well...

[Merlox]

Things happen, also people move on, sometimes they tell others, sometimes they don't. We have all had this happen before. The key is how well do we adapt to this, and keep the game progressing.

[The Lemongate]

Well at the moment we're kinda waiting on Nightbringer. I've PMed him here and at TWC. let's hope he shows up!

[barcamartin]

Lemon, you're Civic at the TWC right? Or am I totally wrong with that assumption/guess ?

[Merlox]

You are very very wrong.

Lemon is Lemon... Here is his profile.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/member.php?u=40294

[barcamartin]

I just thought that since Civic was also French speaking (as I understand Lemon is) and a good and aggressive player. Well, whatever. Never mind! :)

[Merlox]

Civic, if I am correct, is from Romania.

[Nightbringer]

sorry, forgot to check the .org forums. i got your pm though and will play my turn in a couple of hours when i get home from work

[The Lemongate]

Glad to hear from you!

[Nightbringer]

england up
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U7YBDBEW

[Merlox]

IT IS OFFICIAL! TURN 2!

[The Lemongate]

Nightbringer did you send a PM to cultured?

[barcamartin]

A heads up to everyone, I am leaving on Sunday to go camping and will not be back for a week. Someone may have to sub my turn...... I just want my army near my castle to Besiege the Rebel town just north of me. and I want the army stuck on the boats in the channel to enter London. I want some economic buildings done, I don't think I need any buildings done...... just recruit some bowmen in my castle and spear men in London. that should be about it.....

Guess the easist thing is for you to sub him, Lemon. GM and all.

[The Lemongate]

Ugh, I don't have time to sub a turn right now. I don't even have time to read the forums really. If someone wants to do it I can send you a save with a reset pw.

[barcamartin]

Guess I could do it. Send me the turn and I'll have it up ASAP.

[barcamartin]

There, did basically what he requested, as far as possible.

France up!

http://rapidshare.com/files/259508071/DoW2-02-02.zip.html

[Asinus Asini]

Venice next (http://rapidshare.com/files/259699596/DoW2-02-04.rar.html)

[Chaotix]

Sicily's turn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4920) is ready again.

[Balthor]

Hello,

Back to The Byzantine Empire

http://rapidshare.com/files/259873142/DoW2-02-06.rar.html

((I need to learn to do the cool links))

[]s

[The Lemongate]

It's the little magic planet icon with some sort of chain-pin-thing on it. Below the nice, white smiley face which is besides the large, black A which is itself next to Sizes next to Fonts and next to those double-A-thingies that are crossed-out. All on the small toolbar at the top of the Reply to Thread screen.

I hope this helps and makes sense, though I doubt it.


Cheers!

[Merlox]

Game's pace has kinda fallen, any one heard of ERE, if not, sub? =/

[Balthor]

Hello,

Maybe we could have a Mediator (that is not playing any side) that would make the turn for anyone that misses a deadline. We would keep him updated with the next turn strategy just in case. But it seems a thankless job :)

[]s

[Balthor]

thanks :) I tryed to use the planet thing the other time and did not ended good. I would test more if we could edit the posts :dizzy2:


It's the little magic planet icon with some sort of chain-pin-thing on it. Below the nice, white smiley face which is besides the large, black A which is itself next to Sizes next to Fonts and next to those double-A-thingies that are crossed-out. All on the small toolbar at the top of the Reply to Thread screen.

I hope this helps and makes sense, though I doubt it.


Cheers!

[The Lemongate]

Sorry, I've been a bit off the forums lately. Things should be smoother from now on. I'll sub for the ERE right away to get the game going.

[The Lemongate]

Here we go: Moors (http://rapidshare.com/files/260821859/DoW2-02-07.rar.html)


As of now, I will monitor this thread more closely and sub or skip any turn that goes beyond the 48h limit.

If you would rather have someone else sub your turn, specify to that person in advance that they have to sub your turn - no delay will be permitted.


Once again, I am sorry for the initial delays of this game and take the responsibility of keeping the pace going.

[Chaotix]

I'm going to be on vacation from August 2-9, so it means I won't have access to my home computer. If my turn comes up then, I'd like phonicsmonkey to sub it if possible. Thanks.

[barcamartin]

Phonics is abroad until the 11th August I think.

[Ramses II CP]

I should have this done in about 12 hours. :2thumbsup:

:egypt:

[Chaotix]

Phonics is abroad until the 11th August I think.

Blah. If this is true, I would be fine with Merlox or even Lemon to take it if necessary.

[Merlox]

I will be happy to sub for you Venice! after all, your success effects me greatly, with income. :D Trade Partner. =p

and also, It's fine lemon. You're doing a great job still.

[The Lemongate]

The one big advantage I have over other game moderators is that, though I might be very busy at certain times, I really have little chance of going on vacation for the next few years of my life which means I'm always here for the game!!!


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[Merlox]

Ramses... Game!! =( Been more than 12 hours! XD

[The Lemongate]

He's still got up to 9h40 PM Eastern Time to play. If not, at that exact time I shall be merciless and skippit :clown:

[Ramses II CP]

Done! Sorry it took so long, just busy times.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mmjmjgomtyw/DoW2-02-08.zip

:egypt:

[barcamartin]

Fata's:

http://rapidshare.com/files/261531178/DoW2-02-09.zip.html

[Merlox]

Denmark!

Take your turn!

(by lemon on the newer page!)

[The Lemongate]

I hope you get someone to adopt next turn. It would be a shame to lose you so early in the game.

[Merlox]

I thought of that as well. but. Then i noticed I had 3 sons, and 1 daughter at the age of 0. (The children cap is 4, so no more adoptions)

My hopes are for a grandson at age 12 to mature.

Also, I do not like to replay my battles to make sure things go Perfect. It's not realistic or fun, The Battle for Jerusalem was an epic one, and I lost 4 generals out of the 6 doing it.

Also, If my Empire does fall down and die... Could i make a proposal of Myself being switched to the Knights Templar? or something like that? =x (lol)

[The Lemongate]

Yeah we're not supposed to replay battles even though no one can monitor it in-game - which is why I'm pretty defensive on the battle map >_<

Yeah should a faction die, it would always be possible to change an AI-controlled faction to the defeated player's control, especially this early.

[Merlox]

I am too, but this was assaulting Jerusalem, Which is a big boost if you can control it early (As it is the most advanced settlement in the game, that also consists of pre-made bars, high mosques. and the 2 special buildings which makes it easy for Very high tax... The settlement alone can support a full stack of army.)

Also, I respect your rules as well I personally think the game is rather boring if you replay all of your battles to perfect.

Unless you want me to replay it, I will and have a full chance at surviving... but this makes it all more exciting.

[Merlox]

Problem solved.

[The Lemongate]

Well, I'll rule that out. The first post is the one we keep.

Sorry about that. But it was a clear rule in the very first post that there is supposed to be no replays.

With luck you won't have any problems and Egypt will survive. And try to be more cautious next time.


Denmark is up and the clock is ticking! (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50133&d=1249010036)

[Merlox]

Understood. Either way, if I do die, It was the most epic battle. And i'll come back to haunt you... as a ghost... *cough* another faction *cough*

[nicuurs]

Hungary (http://rapidshare.com/files/262132655/DoW2-02-11.rar) is up.

Good luck.

[Ramses II CP]

I'm subbing for Hungary, but I've been through all my pms and I do not have his password. Can the GM forward Phonics' pw to me? I have a very detailed list of what to do so once I get the pw it'll only take me a minute. :2thumbsup:

:egypt:

[Merlox]

I have agreed to sub for Venice for his trip. Just letting every one know, I just wish i knew venice's pass. =x

[Ramses II CP]

The Rus are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/tzyazj4j1nj/DoW2-02-12.zip

I encountered a problem. When attempting to fight a battle the game crashed on while loading the map. Not sure why it happened, but it probably cost Hungary ~250-300 casualties in the autocalc that wouldn't have been lost otherwise. Fighting battles is enabled for this hotseat, right?

I've had battles crash in the BC hotseat before as well and been forced to auto-calc them, then had them go okay the next turn, but it's something to keep an eye on, eh?

edit: I can upload a save at the battle if anyone wants to check it too...

:egypt: