Pirate Ship Mafia [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Did you check all the posts? :dizzy2: Or is there a way to check who has how many posts in a topic?

I'm sure there's an easier way to do this that I'm unaware of, but go the the "gameroom" and click on the number of posts in this thread, which brings up the "Who Posted?" screen, where you can click on the number of posts by a given player and it shows you all their posts.

[CountArach]

I'm sure there's an easier way to do this that I'm unaware of, but go the the "gameroom" and click on the number of posts in this thread, which brings up the "Who Posted?" screen, where you can click on the number of posts by a given player and it shows you all their posts.
Nah, that's the only way.

[Andres]

I'm sure there's an easier way to do this that I'm unaware of, but go the the "gameroom" and click on the number of posts in this thread, which brings up the "Who Posted?" screen, where you can click on the number of posts by a given player and it shows you all their posts.


Nah, that's the only way.

Why are you not voting pevergreen?

:inquisitive:

[White_eyes:D]

Looking to hide in a bandwagon?

Looking to hide be not being in one???:inquisitive:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why are you not voting pevergreen?

:inquisitive:

Because if pevergreen is lynched, Reenk Roink will destroy everyone who voted for him, using a vast army of suicide bombing monks. It's happened before, it WILL happen again.

[White_eyes:D]

Because if pevergreen is lynched, Reenk Roink will destroy everyone who voted for him, using a vast army of suicide bombing monks. It's happened before, it WILL happen again.
Yeah....he will likely kill all of us in the coming night....or at least have a hand in it...:juggle2:

[Askthepizzaguy]

It is said that the only way to lift the Roinkish curse is to cover yourself with the blood of pizza men, dance like Michael Jackson, and then select pevergreen as Captain. It's too late for you now, Andres, and you can't have any of my blood. :snobby:

[Andres]

I prefer to avoid that question, because I'd hate to admit that the case against pevergreen is the best and I should really vote to lynch him. But I hope that by not voting him, he might reward me by recruiting me for his mafia family.

I see.

[Jolt]

What a coincidence, it appears I was right all along

Vote: pevergreen

[KukriKhan]

So, why is Sigurd being lynched?

If I understand it well:

a) he was investigated N1 and result was that he was doing protection
b) he was investigated again N2 and there was nothing about protection; GH explained that second investigation reveals susceptibility (sp?), so it's normal that it doesn't say something about the night action Sig was performing;
c) CR says: Sigurd probably knew that and used the opportunity to kill on N2, because he's a good player;
d) Sigurd is afk because of RL and can't tell us about his night actions.

Is thát the case which warrants a bandwagon on Sigurd?

Really?

:inquisitive:

Big FoS Crazed Rabbit.

If you're oh so certain about Sigurd, dear Crazed Rabbit then this is the deal: if Sigurd's autopsy reveals him to be innocent, it's mutiny and you'll walk the plank. I hope you like sharks.


Vote : Louis VI the Fat

Gut feeling, can't really explain.

Gut feelings, can't explain. Less than 2 hours later (after he'd read more of the thread) his guts felt differently:


Mmmm...

Unvote : Louis VI the Fat; Vote : pevergreen

Stronger gut feeling on pever; that post seems "constructed".

And the gut feeling is soooo strong now, that:


I strongly recommend all those who voted Sigurd to switch their votes to pevergreen.

So: for advocating a Bandwagon on pever, after decrying the Bandwagon on Sigurd and voting for Louis, AND sowing the seeds of mutiny, for the SECOND time, in as many days:

This here crewman prescribes a strong antacid to quell scummy Andres' churning guts, and a

unvote: Sigurd; vote: Andres

[Andres]

Gut feelings, can't explain. Less than 2 hours later (after he'd read more of the thread) his guts felt differently:



And the gut feeling is soooo strong now, that:



So: for advocating a Bandwagon on pever, after decrying the Bandwagon on Sigurd and voting for Louis, AND sowing the seeds of mutiny, for the SECOND time, in as many days:

This here crewman prescribes a strong antacid to quell scummy Andres' churning guts, and a

unvote: Sigurd; vote: Andres

First post was after a first, quick reading before work; second post after a more close reading.

You're basically voting me for having read the last few pages of posts twice.

Anyway, now that you're here, it seems that your method of finding scum:


If'n the Cap'n don't trust his own hand-picked ossifer, who am I t' be contestin' it?

vote: Sigurd

Speak up, Sir.

comes down to blindly following whatever CR, who has never been confirmed innocent, tells you to do?

Did you actually read and analyse the case against Sigurd?

Did you, who has a bit of experience with mafia gaming, actually look at my case against pevergreen? How do you feel about the post that triggered my scumdar? It doesn't strike you as suspicious? How about him voting himself? No comment at all?

Or don't you feel like putting a lot of effort in it, as long as it ain't you who is getting lynched?

[TinCow]

I find none of these accusations sufficiently convincing to vote for. So, let's make some money. Anyone want to buy a vote?


Sigurd: 7 (splitpersonality, Yaropolk, SSNeo, slashandburn, Chaotix, Beefy, ACIN)
A1 Unit: 5 (Lord Winter, Sasaki, ATPG, Double A, Death is yonder)
pevergreen: 4 (Andres, White Eyes, pevergreen, Jolt)
ATPG: 3 (Reenk, Captain Blackadder, Tratorix)
Lord Winter: 2 (A1 Unit, AVSM)
Khazaar: 2 (Joooray, miotas)
SSNeoperestroika: 1 (CountArach)
Andres: 1 (Kukri)

Abstain: 1 (TinCow)

[pevergreen]

I will. PM'ing you now.

[Andres]

I find none of these accusations sufficiently convincing to vote for. So, let's make some money. Anyone want to buy a vote?



You could try to make a case yourself and accuse somebody. At least it will generate posts which can be analysed later in the game.

You're being lazy now.

[pevergreen]

And you're being...yeah.

take that

[White_eyes:D]

I find none of these accusations sufficiently convincing to vote for. So, let's make some money. Anyone want to buy a vote?

The shipmate they call "TinCow" speaks the truth....where is the gold if you want votes??:inquisitive:

[KukriKhan]

You don't "get" the little jab at CR in my sentence:


If'n the Cap'n don't trust his own hand-picked ossifer, who am I t' be contestin' it? ?

CR has the power over his own officer corps, yet after 1 day-night phase asks the crew to put one of his hand-picked staff on the block. That's a little weird, I thought, but I'll contribute to the effort he requests and see what happens. Thusly, I quietly criticized his judgment, while complying with his orders. Other crewmen picked up on the hint and referred to the same issue.


Or don't you feel like putting a lot of effort in it, as long as it ain't you who is getting lynched?

I was voted. By Sasaki. For being inquisitive. Then he too changed his mind. I don't understand your worry - you have but a single vote (mine) on you, criticizing your vote on pever as being superficial, whilst advocating a Bandwagon AND suggesting the Cap'n walk the plank and be eaten by sharks.

[Subotan]

Sigurd's case is weak, but Pevergreen's is even weaker. Either way, neither have enough evidence to by lynchable, at least for the moment. However, Andres is maybe being a little too reliant on his personal "gut feeling" as evidence for the entire crew to lynch one guy, not to mention his determination for Sigurd to survive (Who is slightly suspicious anyway, and can apparently be dispatched by the captain), and his second call for a mutiny in two days. I'd like to remind Andres that although we are not 100% certain that CR is town, we have at most the exact same amount of certainty that we have of Andres, and I personally am a lot, lot less certain that Andres is acting in the best interests of this crew.
Vote:Andres

[TinCow]

You could try to make a case yourself and accuse somebody. At least it will generate posts which can be analysed later in the game.

You're being lazy now.

Interesting that you think it unimportant to find out who feels strongly enough about a vote to pay hard-earned loot for it. I think that information is more valuable than your wavering gut-instincts. (Plus, it's also profitable to me.)

[White_eyes:D]

Unvote:pevergreen Vote:Sigurd
Go with Captain orders then...:shrug:

[Andres]

I was voted. By Sasaki. For being inquisitive. Then he too changed his mind. I don't understand your worry - you have but a single vote (mine) on you, criticizing your vote on pever as being superficial, whilst advocating a Bandwagon AND suggesting the Cap'n walk the plank and be eaten by sharks.

So, I should only answer to a vote if I'm at risk of getting lynched?

I'm not worried about getting lynched. I think your vote on Sigurd was bad and your vote on me was bad reasoning too.



Sigurd's case is weak, but Pevergreen's is even weaker. Either way, neither have enough evidence to by lynchable, at least for the moment. However, Andres is maybe being a little too reliant on his personal "gut feeling" as evidence for the entire crew to lynch one guy, not to mention his determination for Sigurd to survive (Who is slightly suspicious anyway, and can apparently be dispatched by the captain), and his second call for a mutiny in two days. I'd like to remind Andres that although we are not 100% certain that CR is town, we have at most the exact same amount of certainty that we have of Andres, and I personally am a lot, lot less certain that Andres is acting in the best interests of this crew.
Vote:Andres

I'm not determined to have Sigurd survive. The case against him is not good and certainly not a justification for a bandwagon.

And CR is not cleared and thus not in a position to give orders. Following his lead blindly because he's captain is not a good idea. Captain =/= innocent.

And last but not least: the fun factor of a mutiny; GH has a talent for writing funny stories :2thumbsup:

[Subotan]

I'm not determined to have Sigurd survive. The case against him is not good and certainly not a justification for a bandwagon.


If you're oh so certain about Sigurd, dear Crazed Rabbit then this is the deal: if Sigurd's autopsy reveals him to be innocent, it's mutiny and you'll walk the plank. I hope you like sharks.

I strongly recommend all those who voted Sigurd to switch their votes to pevergreen.

Vote pevergreen.

Errr....



And CR is not cleared and thus not in a position to give orders. Following his lead blindly because he's captain is not a good idea. Captain =/= innocent.
...And neither are you. Why should we follow your lead blindly? Besides, I didn't even vote for Sigurd, and I admitted that the case for him was flimsy. I voted for you.



And last but not least: the fun factor of a mutiny; GH has a talent for writing funny stories :2thumbsup:
If it's so fun, why don't you call one?

[Centurion1]

Vote: abstain

at least we are modeling the chaos of a pirate ship well

[scotchedpommes]

Sobriety brings clarity.

Unvote: Sigurd; Vote: Andres

[and with it a renewed desire to have that flatpack bookcase and couple of Swedish quines to enliven
the auld cabin. Nod to our noggie officer scouting the decks of the dreadnought Ikea.]

The cunning one spouts off again. You should have paid for your sly deeds and economy with the truth before now.

[CountArach]

Looking to hide be not being in one???:inquisitive:

Unvote:pevergreen Vote:Sigurd
Go with Captain orders then...:shrug:
You just jumped off one bandwagon... and jumped on another... and still question me calling you on wanting to bandwagon?

@ Andres - There is no decent case against pever at all, nor is there a compelling one against Sigurd. To be honest, at the moment you are the only one who is really striking me as being somewhat abnormal. You aren't the sort to go off half-cocked against anyone in this way.

Unvote: SSNeoperestroika
Vote: Andres

[TinCow]

And CR is not cleared and thus not in a position to give orders. Following his lead blindly because he's captain is not a good idea. Captain =/= innocent.

And last but not least: the fun factor of a mutiny; GH has a talent for writing funny stories :2thumbsup:

Now, this is an interesting argument. CR claims Sigurd is a Maven crewman. That's a pretty specific allegation, and if we lynch Sigurd here we'll find out if it was right or wrong in a few days from the autopsy report. If CR is right, we all benefit because a mafioso is dead. If CR is wrong, we all benefit because we'll all be voting for a mutiny, which means extra loot for everyone.

In most games, this type of thing is usually bad, because we can't guarantee that we won't have a better lynch target than CR on the day Sigurd's results appear. However, on reading the rules closer, it looks like a Mutiny lynch is in addition to a regular lynch. Thus, if CR is wrong, we could remove him easily without disrupting the normal lynch. Am I reading the rules properly?

[KukriKhan]

Andres writes a semi-interesting distraction for us, but I wonder how it is that he personally knows:


a) he (Sigurd) was investigated N1 and result was that he was doing protection
b) he was investigated again N2 and there was nothing about protection;

Did I miss a detective result being published in this thread - or is Andres revealing himself to be privy to detective results that we lowly crewmen don't have? If so, does that make him a Brit agent?

[Andres]

Errr....

And how does that prove that I want Sigurd to survive? I'm just a) pointing out that the case against Sigurd is not good b) if CR, as a captain, orders a bandwagon against a certain player, then it's only fair that he gets removed as captain if he's wrong; c) sorry for trusting my own judgement. pevergreens' post screams "scum" to me. Since I sincerely believe in my case, it's only natural to get people voting him. Making cases without gaining the necessary support is a fruitless exercise; more votes than just mine are needed.


...And neither are you. Why should we follow your lead blindly? Besides, I didn't even vote for Sigurd, and I admitted that the case for him was flimsy. I voted for you.

Nobody should follow my lead "blindly". And nobody should follow CR's lead blindly either, which I stated clearly several times already.


If it's so fun, why don't you call one?

I need a majority of the votes. It's too early now. Calling for a mutiny now is doomed to fail.

[GeneralHankerchief]

TinCow's interpretation of the rules is correct.

[Andres]

Andres writes a semi-interesting distraction for us, but I wonder how it is that he personally knows:



Did I miss a detective result being published in this thread - or is Andres revealing himself to be privy to detective results that we lowly crewmen don't have? If so, does that make him a Brit agent?

That's what I thought is the case against Sigurd :shrug:

[scotchedpommes]

Regarding investigations, is Andres claiming to have access to the results of two first-time investigations of are there two first-time investigations Sigurd? As we know, a second investigation by the same watchman wouldn't provide details of activity.

[White_eyes:D]

You just jumped off one bandwagon... and jumped on another... and still question me calling you on wanting to bandwagon?
I get 3 GOLD for voting.......So that means somebody is going to be lynched...:whip:

Suddenly, I am Mafia for going on a bandwagon on somebody and then going on another??
I guess the Mafia have taken over the ship....Good game:shakehands:

[TinCow]

Did I miss a detective result being published in this thread - or is Andres revealing himself to be privy to detective results that we lowly crewmen don't have? If so, does that make him a Brit agent?

To be fair to Andres, CR said he had seen results here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2346556&postcount=631). The First Mate can either investigate or kill solo. Since we haven't seen any solo kills, Louis has obviously been spending him time investigating. It is not surprising that CR would have access to these results, nor that Louis would investigate his fellow officers right at the start.

[CountArach]

I get 3 GOLD for voting.......So that means somebody is going to be lynched...:whip:
Yes, but putting thought into your vote is the far better option at this point when there are no clear l
ynch targets screaming out (With concrete evidence to back it up).
Suddenly, I am Mafia for going on a bandwagon on somebody and then going on another??
I guess the Mafia have taken over the ship....Good game:shakehands:
You aren't scummy for bandwagoning people... you are scummy for doing so thoughtlessly. There is no case against pever nor one against Sigurd.

[Andres]

Here:


He's someone to consider: Sigurd.

I've heard of some investigations of him. Now, this was the second investigation, which meant it had more info than the first investigation. But it didn't say he was protecting anybody, as his first investigation did.

And what do we have this night? A killing by the maven crew members, which didn't happen the first night. Maybe he was busy killing and not investigating. :stare:

That leads me to wonder just what the Quartermaster was up to last night. Perhaps he can explain it to us.

CR

Followed by:


If this is a question of mechanics, the three-tiered investigation systems works like so, with a few wrinkles:

1. What you were doing that night
2. Susceptibility (and only that)
3. True affiliation

And then CR concluding this:


Ah, I see. Still, I am suspicious. Sigurd, excellent mafia player that he is, would know those rules. He'd also be likely to know that he would most likely be investigated starting the first night, so that he could participate in evil mafioso activities on night two.

What have you been up to, Sigurd? You've been rather non-talkative through PMs and in the thread. Something in my gut makes me rather suspicious of you.

CR



And then this:


Ahoy there, me hearties!

I be askin again because it seems ye not be hearin me.

Will a couple of ye vote for Sigurd? I be havin' a bad feeling about him, and I think a little pressure would do the crew good.

I be askin' not for a bandwagon or even a lynch at this time, just some votes to put him near the top of the lynch list.

CR

Ergo, the case (CR's case, CR who first mentioned detective results to give his case more credibility) against Sigurd is:

Investigation on N2 didn't say anything about Sigurd's night actions. This is perfectly normal. But, Sigurd is a good player and would now that and there for probably was involved in scummy activities.

And based on that "case", you guys started a bandwagon on Sigurd??

:inquisitive:

a) My gut feeling is better than that; pevergreen is a better lynch.
b) Captain CR mentions detective results, but those results prove nada, because they're not conclusive -> scummy. Scummy person in a position to order town -> not good. If Sigurd is innocent -> remove CR.
c) If the detective results come from Louis: FoS : Louis; why sharing with CR? Get yourself protection (top priority; get two groups to be sure) and share with nobody until you have a conclusive third investigation. Why so careless with valuable info?

[KukriKhan]

TinCow's interpretation of the rules is correct.

So, on any given day-phase, any player could type:

vote: mutiny
vote: George Bush

and, if successful, both the Cap'n and George would walk the plank. Interesting.


To be fair to Andres, CR said he had seen results here. The First Mate can either investigate or kill solo. Since we haven't seen any solo kills, Louis has obviously been spending him time investigating. It is not surprising that CR would have access to these results, nor that Louis would investigate his fellow officers right at the start.

OK, I'll grant that. I looked back in the thread and have come to the same conclusion, i.e. CR started the mention of det results. I concede my case v. Andres is weaker now. I'm still bugged by his inconsistency, though. Not like him at all.

[scotchedpommes]

Captain CR mentions detective results, but those results prove nada, because they're not conclusive -> scummy. Scummy person in a position to order town -> not good. If Sigurd is innocent -> remove CR.*sigh*

Doubtless there are those already at work clarifying the loyalties of the rabbit. Removing him will be straightforward if we need to, but you continue on your mutinous bent.

This one could do with a fry-up.

[TinCow]

c) If the detective results come from Louis: FoS : Louis; why sharing with CR? Get yourself protection (top priority; get two groups to be sure) and share with nobody until you have a conclusive third investigation. Why so careless with valuable info?

Speaking from my perspective, if I was Captain, I'd demand to see the results every night or I'd kick the person out of office. What's the point of appointing a First Officer if he won't cooperate with you?

[pevergreen]

unvote, Vote: Andres
Ten to midnight, up at 6am again. I need to sleep.

[Andres]

Speaking from my perspective, if I was Captain, I'd demand to see the results every night or I'd kick the person out of office. What's the point of appointing a First Officer if he won't cooperate with you?

Then I, as a First Officer, would tell him to leave me alone or face a mutiny.

Captain can wait until he has been thoroughly investigated.

[DisgruntledGoat]

Back from a brief respite and I still see Andres pushing for that Mutiny. Andres, if we remove the good capt'n who would you suggest we replace him with?

Until I get an answer, Vote: Andres

You're seemingly desperate to get rid of CR as captain. Personally, the argument that if someone proposes a lynch and is wrong they are guilty to be weak at best and a good way to knock out townies. Two days, two attempts to discredit CR. You've clearly got an agenda and that agenda has to do with the position of captain.

[Andres]

*sigh*

Doubtless there are those already at work clarifying the loyalties of the rabbit. Removing him will be straightforward if we need to, but you continue on your mutinous bent.

This one could do with a fry-up.

Well, he's not "clarified" yet, is he? Why blindly follow him when he makes a bad case? The sole fact of him being captain doesn't make the case against Sigurd good, does it? Yet many of you just bandwagoned Sigurd because the Captain said so. Sigurd can't even defend himself because of RL.

If CR wishes to wield so much power, then he must agree to accept the responsability that comes with such power. Failure = mutiny.

[TinCow]

Then I, as a First Officer, would tell him to leave me alone or face a mutiny.

Captain can wait until he has been thoroughly investigated.

If there is one thing that others have said about you that does stick: you seem hugely keen on encouraging mutiny. Why should the Captain even trust his First Officer? The Captain has no way of knowing whether the First Officer is scum, so why shouldn't he demand results from the First Officer, if only to ensure that his officer is actually doing his job every night and isn't off recruiting people? The Captain in this game is far more powerful than any normal 'Director' position. If he's not using that power, why is he in that position?

[Andres]

Back from a brief respite and I still see Andres pushing for that Mutiny. Andres, if we remove the good capt'n who would you suggest we replace him with?

Until I get an answer, Vote: Andres

You're seemingly desperate to get rid of CR as captain. Personally, the argument that if someone proposes a lynch and is wrong they are guilty to be weak at best and a good way to knock out townies. Two days, two attempts to discredit CR. You've clearly got an agenda and that agenda has to do with the position of captain.

I'm a pirate. Screw up and face mutiny. If the Rabbit is correct or if he just stops being a dictator giving orders and let the pirates think for themselves, then no mutiny.

If CR gets removed, then the most manly of all pirates should take his place: Sasaki Kojiro.

[DisgruntledGoat]

I
If CR gets removed, then the most manly of all pirates should take his place: Sasaki Kojiro.

At least you had the balls to state the obvious. I take it you'd be First Officer and head hunting every night right?

[Beskar]

I been susipicious of Andres ever since he tried to use me in a false protection to hide himself doing a Vig kill.

vote:Andres

[Yaropolk]

Unvote Sigurd

Andres - you have me convinced, Sigurd is not that suspicious

Vote Andres

[Andres]

I been susipicious of Andres ever since he tried to use me in a false protection to hide himself doing a Vig kill.

vote:Andres

I beg you pardon :inquisitive:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sigurd should not be lynched. Has two investigations on him already, just needs one more to clear/condemn him.

The case on pevergreen has some merit.

Andres, your making yourself an easy target...


I'm not too convinced that the hit on taka was indeed made by an undermanned town vig group. As far as I know, the rules don't say anything about if newly recruited members of the maven or the british might not be able to perform an action for their new masters the same night they were recruited. Also the cause of it's failure might lie with other causes, the write-up at least doesn't say anything about some persons missing. I know the chronology of the write up speaks against it, but maybe that is something to consider.

When it comes to voting I'm not content with the way it is going right now. We already lost two phases with wrong actions, so might I ask for some focus of the town here. Even if it is unpiraty. :sweatdrop:

Anyway, from what I've heard of Sigurd I don't think the suspicion on him is in order, I of course don't know for fact, but it is just a feeling I have. The case against A1 Unit seems to have a bit basis, but I'm not sure either.
All in all IMHO we have some real reasons to be suspicious about the people Diana presented, not say anything might be caused by a lack of time, but has also a scummy feel about it.
So I'll Vote: Khazaar.

If anybody has a better case against someone of those 5 or anybody else, let me know.

Suspiciousness overload. This is the classic "I'm mafia and want to be active but don't want to commit to anything" post. Joooray really doesn't want to be criticized for his vote on khazaar the way a few other people have drawn flak for their votes today.

For scientific reference (anecdotes are proof obviously):

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2330168&postcount=284

Centurion was indeed guilty.

[Andres]

Andres, your making yourself an easy target...


I know. Somebody has to stir up discussion.

This is good for me as a wake-up call; I almost forgot how frustrating playing mafia can be, being at risk of getting lynched instead of Sigurd because I stated that the case against that same Sigurd (:wall:) is rubbish.

[Crazed Rabbit]

So Andres, you say the evidence on Sigurd isn't strong. I'll admit that it isn't that strong. But you and Sasaki killed LG and then got woad lynched, and I'll bet they're going to turn out innocent.

And then you try to start a bandwagon on pevergreen, with evidence no stronger than that on Sigurd? Rather odd, to me.

CR

[ricera10]

Vote: Abstain

The premises for voting are too flimsy. :-/

[Beskar]

I beg you pardon :inquisitive:

You tried to put a protection group together last minute with me and YLC involved, however, you was involved with a Vig kill, and with the time that would have been remaining, it I very doubt that was put together afterwards.

So in total, you tried to us a protection group with me and YLC (plus one other, I deleted the pm so can't check now >.<) so it looks like you was part of a protection, to cover your behind as you vig killed some one.

In otherwords, you was actually being dishonest with people.

[Andres]

You tried to put a protection group together last minute with me and YLC involved, however, you was involved with a Vig kill, and with the time that would have been remaining, it I very doubt that was put together afterwards.

So in total, you tried to us a protection group with me and YLC (plus one other, I deleted the pm so can't check now >.<) so it looks like you was part of a protection, to cover your behind as you vig killed some one.

In otherwords, you was actually being dishonest with people.

That's a straight lie.

I was not trying to do a protection with YLC and you.

I contacted you, YLC and SSNeo to see if the four of us could make a group; you replied that you were already grouped.

EDIT: and that was night 1.
EDIT 2: and I did not "hide" that I did a vig kill as you stated in your previous post. Did you already forget that I almost got lynched the previous day, because I told in public, in this very same thread, that I had vig killed; that's not exactly "hiding" is it?

[Beskar]

That is not a straight lie, especially as you just admitted to trying to form the said group. How can I lie and saying the truth at the same time?

Also, why were you trying to set up this protection last minute, when you was already going to conduct the said vig kill.

Also, you told in public as there was a chance you was going to get exposed anyway.

[Andres]

That is not a straight lie, especially as you just admitted to trying to form the said group. How can I lie and saying the truth at the same time?

Also, why were you trying to set up this protection last minute, when you was already going to conduct the said vig kill.

Also, you told in public as there was a chance you was going to get exposed anyway.

I got your reply at 13.34 (GMT+2); I went with the vigilante after that reply. My N1 pm'ing has been explained and analysed in the previous round.

[Andres]

That is not a straight lie, especially as you just admitted to trying to form the said group. How can I lie and saying the truth at the same time?

Also, why were you trying to set up this protection last minute, when you was already going to conduct the said vig kill.

Also, you told in public as there was a chance you was going to get exposed anyway.

It was not "last minute". That's the lie. You make it sound as if I contacted you when I had already committed myself to another group, as if I wanted to confuse you or make you waste your night ability. That's simply not true.

Either you were very unfortunate in your wording or you are telling the town a lie.

[Beskar]

See? You just had to explain it, opposed to calling me a liar, which I wasn't.

Bad Andres.

Edit: As for Last Minute, that is a subjective expression, in my opinion, it was near the end of the phase and with the different timezones, etc, it was quite "Last Minute" in my opinion.

[Andres]

See? You just had to explain it, opposed to calling me a liar, which I wasn't.

Bad Andres.

~:confused:

Whatever.

[Subotan]

The tally currently stands at
8 - Andres
5 - Sigurd

[White_eyes:D]

Yes, but putting thought into your vote is the far better option at this point when there are no clear l
You aren't scummy for bandwagoning people... you are scummy for doing so thoughtlessly. There is no case against pever nor one against Sigurd.

There is no case against anyone really....should we all vote: no lynch?:furious3:

Your taking it too far....and it's beginning to make me :wall::wall::whip::skull:....:stare:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

There is a strong case against joooray. With scientific evidence.

[White_eyes:D]

Gonna need a vig group for that.....:2thumbsup:

The "townie bandwagon" is just not working for this phase:no:

[Iskander 3.1]

My head hurts from reading all of this.

Going back to the Lord Winter discussion, I can vouch for him as he set up a protection group that involved me.

Sasaki, your post does point to strong evidence against Jooray. Vote: Jooray

I'll be back during lunch break to follow up.

[Subotan]

There is a strong case against joooray. With scientific evidence.

Agreed. Can anyone go through this thread and get the rest of his posts, just to confirm it? (I have a tuba lesson in five minutes, so I can't :sweatdrop:)

[Crazed Rabbit]

Ok, time to add some information:

Yes, the case presented against Sigurd is rather weak. That was intentional, you see.

The case I have against Sigurd is quite strong, in fact. I received this from an investigator:

You investigate Sigurd and find that he is in fact a Maven crewman.

Now this person obviously isn't a watchstander, because they got this result on the second investigation. But they also gave me their first night's results:


Sigurd was protecting [redacted] last night.

That is different from a watchstander's results, which only say if the target was protecting, not who they were protecting. This investigator was able to find out who I ordered Sigurd to protect. Unless Sigurd went around telling random people who he protected night one, I find that to be good evidence supporting Sigurd's guilt. Now if Sigurd isn't a maven, then we know someone to lynch. But I think he will be.

So why not reveal this earlier? Well, I wanted to see who would defend Sigurd if there wasn't a clear-cut case against him.

And here we have Andres, trying to start a bandwagon on pevergreen. He also seems to think I should be disposed as captain if Sigurd isn't guilty. I don't think that will be a problem; but why should people mutiny if one of my suspicions turns out to be incorrect? It's especially strange now that he wants Sasaki, who killed LG with Andres and pushed for woad's lynch, to be captain. Not himself though, perhaps because people are sure to investigate the captain.

CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Very clever :beam:

I guess Sigurd pushed to get himself quartermaster without checking out the investigative roles very carefully.

Andres, hmm, I hate to turn on someone who's been supportive, but your frustration with the sigurd bandwagon is very much how mafia react when they or one of their partners is accused with poor evidence.

[Beskar]

I am going with the Captain. Unvote; Vote: Sigurd.

I was heard down the pipeline that you put Sigurd incharge of organising Protections, is this true, CR?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

unvote:joooray, vote:Sigurd

CR, are you going to put aside your dislike of vigilante groups to put one out on Andres and perhaps joooray tonight?

[Beskar]

Being honest, a vig group on Andres sounds like a good idea, simply because, it would be a waste to have three nights of investigations on him, just to prove he is innocent or not.

[Subotan]

Uh oh.



All hail to the new captain. Argh. :pirate: :furious3:

How long will the night phase last?


Also it is true that [the officers] are fairly protected by the 50% chance of failure and even if they should take one for the team (die), they are replaced and the power of the role won't be lost for the town, right?!



Let me just say to everybody that killed LG last night and who is voting for w&f. You are making a big mistake.

So, I am pretty sure about w&f allegiance, but I'm not to sure about Andres. But since I don't want to make the same mistake that the people made who bandwaggoned on w&f, I will Vote: Sasaki, for just really hurting the town like that early on!! (Time will tell!!)

http://www.ibiblio.org/phil/fnordchan/doonesbury-guilty.jpg

[Crazed Rabbit]

Sure, for Andres I'll make an exception. My morning has been rushed, though, so I don't know the evidence against Joooray.

And Sigurd was not put in charge of organizing protections by me. He was supposed to protect people, since he was the quartermaster.

EDIT: I need volunteers to please contact Sasaki to help him with a vigilante target tonight.

CR

[DisgruntledGoat]

Well well. I like where the plan is going. So Unvote; Vote: Sigurd.

[Beskar]

Oh, and another note, anyone who is guilty of defending Andres will go to the gallows.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Vote: Sigurd

Well now, Capt'n, that's as fair a piece of reasonin' as I've ever seen. Either your the blackest of demons or you've got him dead to rights. I choose the latter.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Sigurd's allegiance has been called in question. Being in an officer's position, I feel obliged to state my opinion.

On Day minus 1, I wrote:


If the captin so wishes, I will be offerin my services as a Quartermaster.Why do you offer your services, but aim for second rank?

Does your role prevent you from performing all the duties of first mate? Is the killing of suspects or the investigation of suspects incompatible with your role?

Why do you seek the lesser position that allows you to role block or protect? To protect your accomplices?


Have we found our first suspect...?

The role of First Mate allows one to kill or investigate.
The role of Quartermaster allows one to role-block or protect.
All powers of one's original role are suspended until removal from office.

For the English, it doesn't really make sense to be QM. Except in a later stage, when there are plenty hands.

The roles of the maven are rather more complicated:

Maven saboteurs:

All Maven saboteurs, whether original or converted, may at any time privately vote to leave the ship with the treasure they have collected and, essentially, end the game for all involved. However, they must leave with a sufficient amount of treasure or otherwise they will be punished by their Captain in the final writeup. Further mechanics of this will be discussed upon request from Maven saboteurs.

Maven Crewman (3)
Unlike the British, the Maven crewmen have no distinction between each other and all three original crewmen share the same powers. Every night, one of the three (and only one, though this may alternate) may investigate one individual to find out how susceptible to treasure. The other two may team up and kill one person per night. The Maven crewmen cannot begin converting people over to their side until one of them is the active leader in treasure accumulated (will be made clear in a PM).

If one of them is the active leader in treasure accumulated, at night, any amount of members of the team may go around at night offering Presence sailors the opportunity to switch. If the sailor is question is susceptible to treasure, he will immediately switch and become a Maven Convert (below). Should he not be susceptible, the crewman who offered the opportunity to switch has a chance of being discovered (percentages vary from player to player, power roles have a better chance of discovering who offered the opportunity to switch to them). If only one original Maven crewman remains and there are no Maven Converts, the Maven Crewman may kill on his own.

No treasure will be subtracted from the Maven’s stash upon successful conversion – it is the promise of further treasure that lures the Presence’s crewman in.It is in the interest of the Maven to try to get an officer's position. However, only the officer role of QM is.
A FM must show a kill or an investigation. There is no way to hide. A QM, by contrast, can easily feign a protection. So long as his protectee is not attacked, a maven can hide indefinately as a QM.

So a Maven would seek the position of QM.
In light of this, with some reservation and regret, I
Vote: Sigurd

Am I sure Sigurd is Maven? No.
But the suspicion was there. Then the investigation result showed Sigurd as Maven.

What bugs me, is that Sigurd would know he'd be investigated. Tomorrow will most likely yield definitive results on all three officers. Including a second opinion on Sigurd.
Also - why should he put himself in the spotlight? Then again, the goal of the Maven is to gain the lead in gold, early on. They can not recruit before this. Maybe it was a bold gamble.


FoS:
Pevergreen
A1 Unit

[Louis VI the Fat]

Joooray is accounted for last night.

None of the circumstantial evidence warrant a vig kill on Jooray. I think we have seen quite enough wanton kills. :no:


Gonna need a vig group for that.....:2thumbsup:I believe you were caught killing last night.

Were you part of the vig attempts on Taka and Gibson, or part of the mafia hits?

[taka]

vote: Sigurd

Coz me capt'n sed so!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

What bugs me, is that Sigurd would know he'd be investigated. Tomorrow will most likely yield definitive results on all three officers. Including a second opinion on Sigurd.
Also - why should he put himself in the spotlight? Then again, the goal of the Maven is to gain the lead in gold, early on. They can not recruit before this. Maybe it was a bold gamble.



This is what bugged me too, and given what GH said about the maven's getting 20 gold for a successful kill it doesn't make sense as a money making strategy either. I can only figure he didn't realize the investigations would reveal his full role and not just night actions.


Joooray is accounted for last night.

None of the circumstantial evidence warrant a vig kill on Jooray. I think we have seen quite enough wanton kills. :no:

Accounted for how? Vig groups on suspicious people are fine. Having been in a prot group is no evidence, you might as well say that sigurd was accounted for.

[TinCow]

Well, I was going to wait until the end of the phase to vote, but it seems like the result is now a foregone conclusion. Still, I believe this fulfills the terms of our agreement since Sigurd is surely in the lead now and will almost certainly remain there. I expect my payment pever!

Unvote; Vote: Sigurd







How much do you want?

Well, you're the first offer, so I'll take anything you're willing to give. Be aware that I am an equal opportunity bribe-taker though, so if someone else tops your offer later, I will change my vote.
oooh no, backstabbing, my gold goes to a stable vote sorry.

Hmmm... well, a stable vote will cost you more. Say... 7 gold. Seems like a nicely arbitrary yet reasonable price, don't you think?

Done.

Vote for whoever is in the lead, unless it is me, in which case the second place.

Will do. I will place my vote near the end of the voting phase.

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote, vote: Sigurd

:grin:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

unvote, vote: Sigurd

:grin:

Why the grin pizza?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Remember, I need a confirmation on all transactions from both parties by PM in order for them to be valid.

[slashandburn]

Someone should vig kill slashandburn tonight.

Why?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why the grin pizza?

WHY SO SERIOUS?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

WHY SO SERIOUS?

You weren't sure how to comment on your mafia buddy being found out. It's why you've been deliberately silly since he came under attack earlier today. You posted a grin because you didn't want to just vote, but you didn't want to make a serious comment in case it looked forced and ungenuine.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Accounted for how? Vig groups on suspicious people are fine. Having been in a prot group is no evidence, you might as well say that sigurd was accounted for.Fine.

I am putting together a protection group on Jooray for tonight. Any idle hands looking for a job, PM me.

:balloon2:


Why?Because Sasaki wants the crew to kill all mafia, while he himself killes all of the crew, and then take over this ship himself with the largest stash of loot?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Fine.

I am putting together a protection group on Jooray for tonight. Any idle hands looking for a job, PM me.

:balloon2:

Because Sasaki wants the crew to kill all mafia, while he himself killes all of the crew, and then take over this ship himself with the largest stash of loot?

How come you're so protective of jooray?

He was in a prot group with LG, presumably he was in one last night, that means nothing. His post was very suspicious.

Killing people isn't even good money louis, you know that :no:

[Askthepizzaguy]

You weren't sure how to comment on your mafia buddy being found out. It's why you've been deliberately silly since he came under attack earlier today. You posted a grin because you didn't want to just vote, but you didn't want to make a serious comment in case it looked forced and ungenuine.

You caught me! You caught the tater.

[Subotan]

Well, I've seen enough.

Unvote:Andres, Vote Sigurd

Seeing as how we'll need a new Quartermaster, I'd like to humbly nominate myself for that position.

[Splitpersonality]

Being versed in Ron White, while handy, does not make you innocent :wink:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Being versed in Ron White, while handy, does not make you innocent :wink:

Fine, I'll do a full confession.

I Askthepizzaguy do solemnly swear that the below statements are true to the best of my recollection.

Fifteen men on a pizza man's chest
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.
Drink and the devil had done for the rest
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.

The mate was fixed by the bosun's pike
The bosun brained with a marlinspike
And cookey's throat was marked belike
It had been gripped by fingers ten;
And there they lay, all good dead men
Like break o'day in a boozing ken
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.

Fifteen men of the whole ship's list
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
Dead and be darned and the rest gone whist!
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!

The skipper lay with his nob in gore
Where the scullion's axe his cheek had shore
And the scullion he was stabbed times four
And there they lay, and the soggy skies
Dripped down in up-staring eyes
In murk sunset and foul sunrise
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.

Fifteen men of 'em stiff and stark
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
Ten of the crew had the murder mark!
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!

'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers' glut with a rotting red
And there they lay, aye, damn my eyes
Looking up at paradise
All souls bound just contrawise
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.

Fifteen men of 'em good and true
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!

Ev'ry man jack could ha' sailed with Old Pew,
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!

[Yaropolk]

Unvote Andres Vote Sigurd

ATPG you have too much time on your hands!

[Yaropolk]

And you know what they say about idle hands FOS ATPG

[Subotan]

Great, so for ages, we have no suspects, and now we have four suspect people at once?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Ahoy, me hearties!

An announcement this be. I be a travelin' some today and will be away from the internet for several hours, so do not worry if ye PMs go unread for a time.

CR

[Diana Abnoba]

Unvote; Vote: Sigurd

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Sigurd

[Louis VI the Fat]

:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:




What bugs me, is that Sigurd would know he'd be investigated. Tomorrow will most likely yield definitive results on all three officers. Including a second opinion on Sigurd.
Also - why should he put himself in the spotlight? Then again, the goal of the Maven is to gain the lead in gold, early on. They can not recruit before this. Maybe it was a bold gamble.


Here's the bold gamble:


The Maven crewmen cannot begin converting people over to their side until one of them is the active leader in treasure accumulated (will be made clear in a PM).Sigurd is busy leaving all fifty gold to one of his maven mates. This will bring that player to the top of the gold league. As soon as the first Maven member is lynched, they can start to recruit.


More in general, we need to prevent any Maven from ever gaining the lead in gold.

To this end, I propose that:
Everybody sends me all of their five gold. Before Sigurd's lynch, or it will be too late. I promise to return this money as soon as the first convert is made - at pain of death. The money will cease to be useful by then.

(Yes, I realise that sounds awfully suspicious. So be it. Think about it, it makes sense. We need to prevent a maven member from gaining the lead in gold, or this voyage will end up like 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers')

Help us, Obi-Wan! You're our only hope!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Louis, I thought of that earlier, but I think it's a gamebreaker. I considered suggesting round 1 that we all have our wills leave 50 gold to CR once he's been cleared. I think it's lame though. Let em recruit. I don't think that GH intended it to be that the maven's could never recruit.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I agree that's game breaking, much in the same vein as my "everyone in a 2 man attack group" idea.

We can catch them the old fashioned way. I want it to at least be a challenge.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I've started receiving night orders.

Please do not send me night orders until it is night. It will be much easier for me to keep track. The orders that have already been sent will not be counted.

Many thanks. :bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sigurd is busy leaving all fifty gold to one of his maven mates. This will bring that player to the top of the gold league. As soon as the first Maven member is lynched, they can start to recruit.

Also, lest we forget, other players have already died and presumably left their gold to someone.

[Andres]

Andres, hmm, I hate to turn on someone who's been supportive, but your frustration with the sigurd bandwagon is very much how mafia react when they or one of their partners is accused with poor evidence.

As if I would defend my mafia buddy when I see "investigations" and a call to vote my partner in the same post, made by a captain who is trusted by his crew...

I would create distance between myself and my partner, maybe trying a bit suspicion on somebody else, but nothing more than that; I would never be so vocal. Besides, CR's initial case was rubbish. Sorry for pointing that out, but that doesn't make me suspicious.

I am insulted by that post :snobby:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I like Tincows Idea, seems to take everything into account

Vote: Sigurd

[Sigurd]

Shiver me timbers!!!! I have read up to post #750 and I am already detectin' that I am being bandwagoned fer a result which said something to the effect of what exactely?

I have on the capt'n's orders protected TinCow tis night. You all saw the order of investigation in the writing of GH's words : investigation 1 - night actions. Investigation 2 - susceptible. I sent the night order reply from GH to my two officers - why haven't they told you about it (if they have I am sorry as I haven't gotten around to read more than to post #750) And why haven't you officers been tellin' me what you have been up to? Louis? You sent me the investigation results from night one, but you have not been sendin' the night 2 investigations.

Well... CAPT'N !!!!! what did the investigation say? was I susceptible to Gold or letter of Marque (or something.
Unless a third investigation says I am something else but a townie I demand that the votes be shifted on someone else. I am your Quartermaster - not able to be converted while in office.
Why are ye votin' for me?

Why the public outcry Capt'n? Why not ask me in PM like real officers? No need to show the good hands any disorder in their leadership. Tis bad form I tell ya.

[TinCow]

Well, thanks for the protection, but I think you need to read post #816 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2347162&postcount=816).

[Subotan]

Patriotism Roleplay is the last refuge of scoundrel.

[Sigurd]

Ah .. tis is not true... I have been busy here in Stockholm and I have just realized that the time has run out. I haven't had a chance to get away from meetings and what have you.

I can't believe you just lynched yer Quartermaster. I am not pleased at all. Especially as I publicly stated in this thread that I was on my way to Stockholm.
IT is only for a few days and I thought it wouldn't effect my Quartermaster role much - as I only protects or put people in the brig for a night.

:no:

[Sigurd]

Well, thanks for the protection, but I think you need to read post #816 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2347162&postcount=816).

Well that post is obviously a lie. I am a townie and I was chosen QM from the very first day and can't have converted.

CR should rather put that person who gave him that fake investigation result to walk the plank. Because you have just either exposed a Maven or an English.

If you want to trade me for a real Maven or Englishman, am willing to walk the plank today. Why would this investigator make this mistake ? He would know I would call it a lie.

[Splitpersonality]

I believe it is suffice to say that if you turn up innocent Sigurd, the investigator in question shall be destroyed with much malice.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I believe it is suffice to say that if you turn up innocent Sigurd, the investigator in question shall be destroyed with much malice.

Does it have to be malice? Always with the malice. Why can't it be with pretty pink ponies and yellow butterflies, and with a twinkle in your lover's eye? Can't we all just get along?

[Sigurd]

I am too old for this crap anyway... I need a vacation from the org and this is the perfect time.

Signing out...

[Beskar]

I am too old for this crap anyway... I need a vacation from the org and this is the perfect time.

Signing out...

:cry:

[CountArach]

Unvote: Andres
Vote: Sigurd

Keeping an eye on Andres though.

[White_eyes:D]

I believe you were caught killing last night.

Were you part of the vig attempts on Taka and Gibson, or part of the mafia hits?
I have money from two successful protects.....wasn't part of any Vig group....didn't think we needed those yet:juggle2:

But with how things are going....I can see how we need them....I am suspicious of someone in my group, and it's pretty obvious who...:brood:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting closed.

[Centurion1]

well vote: Sigurd

as to the people who i hear were a little worried about my true loyalty, i apologize i missed an action simply because i am busy with college applications. Especially for military academies, truly an arduous process

lol never mind, darn you and your speedy internet gh

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day 3

For a while, it seemed as if too much heavy drinking on the Presence the night before would doom the pirates to an unproductive day. Several votes were lodged for those previously aboard the ship but had long passed, or even some old mateys back in Nassau that had never set foot aboard in the first place. This was all done, of course, to the Captain's chagrin.

Eventually, Crazed Rabbit grew more and more agitated about the direction (or directions, if one wanted to be more accurate) the vote was going in, and loudly instructed his sailors to vote for his very own Quartermaster, Sigurd.

Instantly, a heated debate sprung out of this. The accusations and defenses flew far and fast, with several people starting to openly distrust the Captain. Some sailors even defied his authority by offering other possible lynch targets, although none yet called for a mutiny. Near the end of voting, a hopping-mad Sigurd finally emerged from below decks to defend himself.

"What be the meanin' of all this suspicion on me?" Sigurd said. "I be yer Quartermaster, lookin' forward to nothin' more than-"

"Former Quartermaster," Captain Rabbit said, cutting him off. "As of right now, Seamus Fermanagh be fillin' that position."

A shocked Sigurd turned his gaze over to Seamus for a second, who only shrugged. Looking back, he started staring daggers at Rabbit. "That be all well and fine," he said, "but it still doesn't explain the meanin' of all this. Why be half the bleedin' crew be votin' for me, seemingly out of nowhere?"

"Why?" Rabbit countered, eyes getting wider with anger. "I tell ye why, ye bloomin' no-good, treasonous wretch! I have in me very hands a slip of parchment saying you're with the Mavens!"

After everyone gasped in shock, Rabbit threw his hands wide so that everybody could see the paper, if not read what was written on it or who it was from. Sigurd, meanwhile, could only sputter in shock. He was already being escorted to the plank when he finally formed the words to defend himself.

"But... but it's not true!" he shouted. "It's an out-and-out lie, Captain! I would- I would never betray the Presence, and certainly not to those louses! Besides, no Watchstander be that sharp-eyed, and clearly not even dull-eyed since they got me wrong in the first place!"

But none of this was heard, and even if it was, it was not heeded. The pirates were bloodthirsty, and Quartermaster was never a popular position amongst the crew anyway, as Sigurd was learning firsthand. He didn't even have the chance to walk off, instead getting thrown overboard. Several people fired shots into the water, some into the air. Nobody knew if they hit anything or not, but it didn't matter. Sigurd was never seen again.

Day 3 tally:

Sigurd: 20 (Split, White_eyes, Beskar, Sasaki, Goat, Chaotix, Seamus, Beefy, ACIN, slash, Louis, taka, TinCow, ATPG, Subotan, Yaro, khaan, Diana, Drizzt, CountArach) :skull:

Andres: 3 (Kukri, SSNeo, pever)
A1_Unit: 3 (Winter, Double A, DiY)
Askthepizzaguy: 3 (Reenk, Blackadder, Tratorix)
Lord Winter: 2 (A1, AVSM)
Khazaar: 2 (Joooray, miotas)
pevergreen: 2 (Andres, Jolt)
Joooray: 1 (Iskander)

Abstained: 3 (CR, Centurion, ricera)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It is now Night 3. The round will last until Tuesday, October 6th, 20:00 US Eastern Time.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Attacked: Centurion1 (n1), LittleGrizzly (n1), taka (n2)

Murdered: LittleGrizzly (n1), atheotes (n2), gibsonsg91921 (n2)

Lynched: woad&fangs (d2), Sigurd (d3)

Removed from play: Xehh II, johnhughthom, YLC

Souls aboard (43):
a completely inoffensive name
A Very Super Market
A1 Unit
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Beefy187
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Chaotix
CountArach
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Death is Yonder
Diana Abnoba
DisgruntledGoat
Double A
Iskander 3.1
Jolt
Joooray
Khazaar
KukriKhan
Lord Winter
Louis VI the Fat
miotas
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Reenk Roink
ricera10
Sasaki Kojiro
scottishranger
Seamus Fermanagh
shlin28
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
SSNeoperestroika
Subotan
taka
TinCow
Tratorix
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan

[Subotan]

Night All.

[Askthepizzaguy]

A protection group is short a member or two, can I get some volunteers.

[Tratorix]

So, we lynched Sigurd because of an investigation by someone who's role apparently isn't watchstander, but some mystery role that can reveal true allegiance in a second investigation. :dizzy2:
Great.

[pevergreen]

We are lacking real infomation though.

PM sent to confirm money for services, those who I owe.

and if anyone cared, the PM TinCow quoted was entirely accurate. I skimped him though, WE got 10 gold for it. :grin2:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Two quick things:

1. just volunteers for 3-4 man protections only, please. Coordinate with the Captain for the rest.

2. People should NOT be made aware of their susceptibility. A) there is no reason they need to know such information, they can do their duty just fine without it. B) If they know what their susceptibility is, they can contact known/dead Mavens or Brits and voluntarily offer to join the mafia. From where I sit, it's totally pointless for us to do this unless we want the mafia to win. That is my opinion.

[TinCow]

and if anyone cared, the PM TinCow quoted was entirely accurate. I skimped him though, WE got 10 gold for it. :grin2:

Fine, you want to play that way? I will now refer to you as Pevergreen forever more.

[pevergreen]

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

It'd almost be worth 3 gold to avoid that.

Blast you tINcOW.

[LittleGrizzly]

I think It would be best to stop sasaki and his goup striking townies at night....

[TinCow]

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

It'd almost be worth 3 gold to avoid that.

Blast you tINcOW.

Simply fulfill your end of the bargain and transfer 7 gold to me in the next phase, and there will be peace between us. I will not even charge interest.

But if you fail, not only will you be Pevergreen... you will be Pevergreen.

[scottishranger]

Simply fulfill your end of the bargain and transfer 7 gold to me in the next phase, and there will be peace between us. I will not even charge interest.

But if you fail, not only will you be Pevergreen... you will be Pevergreen.

It is the right time period for the Scarlet Letter I suppose...

[White_eyes:D]

I think I ripped pevergreen off with my vote.....I just voted for Sigurd(who was in the lead at the time:shrug:)

But ten gold is not much, in terms of getting some security in not getting lynched:book:

makes me feel like such a mercenary....or a loan shark:sweatdrop:

But we are Pirates.....greed is in our nature:pirate:

[Iskander 3.1]

Psst! Give me 100 gold, and then tell four of your friends to give me 100 gold, and have them each find four people to give me 100 gold! When they do, I'll give you 1000 gold! A failsafe investment, laddies!

And now, before we go below decks, we sing!

Listen Children, hear this story
That will take you around the world:
In the belly of the vessels
Stowed away nine pirate girls.

Nine Pirate girls, pirate girls, pirate girls nine!
(One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine!)

One named Polly had a parrot,
The second named Polly had a parrot, too.
That's the part that is confusing,
And they were identical twins.

The third was Nancy, she was fancy,
Walked around with a fake tattoo.
And four through nine were all named Peggy,
And each one only wore one shoe.

Nine Pirate girls, pirate girls, pirate girls nine!
(One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine!)

Legend grew about their daring,
Never did they walk the plank.
They all shared one golden earring,
And the truth is they all stank.

If you finished all your homework,
Brushed your teeth, and done your chores,
And it's not too past your bedtime,
Then your folks might tell you more of the

Pirate girls, pirate girls, pirate girls nine!
(One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine!)
Pirate girls, pirate girls, pirate girls nine!
(One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine!)

[CountArach]

Counting, now that's just plain unpiratical.

[Diana Abnoba]

What?! We counts are gold don't we.

[White_eyes:D]

Any good Pirate stops counting after 10 gold for fear of the Cat'o nines...:whip:

[Death is yonder]

Well, those are some interesting developments while I was away :juggle2:

I certainly hope that he was truly an anti-town, if not we lynched an innocent quartermaster and wasted a lynch.

[Subotan]

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

It'd almost be worth 3 gold to avoid that.

Blast you tINcOW.
I honestly always thought he was called TinCrow.

Psst! Give me 100 gold, and then tell four of your friends to give me 100 gold, and have them each find four people to give me 100 gold! When they do, I'll give you 1000 gold! A failsafe investment, laddies!


Oooh, a trapezoid scheme!

[Beskar]

I always remember TinCow as the golden calf from the Moses story for some reason. Him living in Washington D.C also seems to support the theory.

[Askthepizzaguy]

That sounds suspiciously like politics invading the neutrality of our pleasant Gameroom!

*fires lightning bolts from his fingers*

Begone to the fire-filled pits of heck known as the Backroom! :clown:

[shlin28]

Apologies for lack of voting/lack of posts in the last phase/in this game, will be more active now :yes:

[Louis VI the Fat]

Long night. Nothing happening.


Why can't the crew spend these boring hours playing some cards?

Because the First Mate is sitting on the deck.



Yeah.


Arrg.

[Subotan]

I can't sleep.

I have nightmares. :no:

[Louis VI the Fat]

FoS: Subotan.

Unpiraty talk.

[TinCow]

Why can't the crew spend these boring hours playing some cards?

Because the First Mate is sitting on the deck.

A pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel sticking out of his pants. The bartender says, "Hey Pirate... why is there is a steering wheel sticking out of your pants?" The pirate walks over to the bartender and says, "YARR! It's drivin' me nuts!"

[Sasaki Kojiro]

A pirate walks into a bar and the bartender says, "Hey, I haven't seen you in a while. What happened, you look terrible!"
"What do ye mean?" the pirate replies, "I be just fine."
The bartender says, "But what about that wooden leg? You didn't have that before."
"Yarr," says the pirate, "We were in a battle at sea and a cannon ball hit my leg"
"Yeah," says the bartender, "But what about that hook? Last time I saw you, you had both hands."
"Yarr," says the pirate, "We were in another battle and we boarded the enemy ship. I was in a sword fight and my hand was cut off but the surgeon fixed me up with this hook."
"Oh," says the bartender, "What about that eye patch? Last time you were in here you had both eyes."
"Well," says the pirate, "One day when we were at sea, some birds were flying over the ship. I looked up, and one of them pooped in my eye."
"So?" replied the bartender, "what happened? You couldn't have lost an eye just from some bird poop!"
"Arrgh," says the pirate, "It was me first day with the hook."

********************

How do pirates know that they are pirates?
They think, therefore they ARRRR!!!!!

[Joooray]

I know, it might be a bit late for that. I didn't have time earlier.

If there is actually a vig group organized against me this night, I would strongly ask those people to reconsider. I'm honestly no threat to the ship and it's crew. The only cause why LG, w&f and me might seem associated is a mistake our host made when he send out the role pms. I'm not entirely sure, but I think Sasaki has an own agenda to kill us and being rewarded or something for it. At least that would explain why he is so keen on going after us.

Well anyway might I just please asked you to to wait for the post mortem results of LG and w&f, then you can still kill me if you want to. Thank you. :bow:

[Subotan]

Why did the pirate have no aspirin for his head ache?

Because the paracetamol.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I know, it might be a bit late for that. I didn't have time earlier.

If there is actually a vig group organized against me this night, I would strongly ask those people to reconsider. I'm honestly no threat to the ship and it's crew. The only cause why LG, w&f and me might seem associated is a mistake our host made when he send out the role pms. I'm not entirely sure, but I think Sasaki has an own agenda to kill us and being rewarded or something for it. At least that would explain why he is so keen on going after us.

Well anyway might I just please asked you to to wait for the post mortem results of LG and w&f, then you can still kill me if you want to. Thank you. :bow:

Once it was revealed that LG was wasn't lying about having a group already that point was moot. Their innocence would say nothing about you.

I don't find it likely that GH would make a mistake in the role pm's that connected the mafia to some townies though...what was this mistake exactly?

The reason I suspected LG in the first place was that I didn't think he would have a big group that fast, why didn't he say anything about that :dizzy2:

[Centurion1]

sasaki you be quiet, i still think YOU are scum, you are so done if lg is a townie. If not, well then i bow my head

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Are you still blaming me for voting you in steampunk?

[Joooray]

Once it was revealed that LG was wasn't lying about having a group already that point was moot. Their innocence would say nothing about you.

I don't find it likely that GH would make a mistake in the role pm's that connected the mafia to some townies though...what was this mistake exactly?

The reason I suspected LG in the first place was that I didn't think he would have a big group that fast, why didn't he say anything about that :dizzy2:

He send the role pm to us all openly, so we all knew that we were town. I think we were more or less mute, because we weren't sure if GH would approve of it being revealed, also I at least didn't want to reveal my actually role that much to make me target, either for being recruited or for being killed. And then we also thought we could see it as opportunity to represent a strong town group from the beginning, but before we knew LG and w&f were already killed. With my live being threatened like this I didn't see any other chance than to reveal the situation.

I hope GH doesn't mind me saying all of this. :sweatdrop:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

He send the role pm to us all openly, so we all knew that we were town. I think we were more or less mute, because we weren't sure if GH would approve of it being revealed, also I at least didn't want to reveal my actually role that much to make me target, either for being recruited or for being killed. And then we also thought we could see it as opportunity to represent a strong town group from the beginning, but before we knew LG and w&f were already killed. With my live being threatened like this I didn't see any other chance than to reveal the situation.

I hope GH doesn't mind me saying all of this. :sweatdrop:

That explains so much. Including why they wouldn't say anything about it--unsporting. What could have helped you guys ended up getting you killed when I happened to try and form a group with LG and w&f.

[Centurion1]

Are you still blaming me for voting you in steampunk?

lol no i don't hold grudges like that. I think you have been really suspicious, so suspicious in fact that i almost sort of don't think a mafia would be that open. Then again you may be resigning yourself to the fact that you cannot lie low because you are such a well known player and you would eventually come up so you are building alibis now. Like i said i would not vote for you right now but you are acting rather suspicious.

We'll know by the time the autopsy comes out. even then you may have just made a mistake.

But no i don't hold anything against you for steampunk, or rainy day mafia (where you were right...). Or do i? :furious3:

[Joooray]

That explains so much. Including why they wouldn't say anything about it--unsporting. What could have helped you guys ended up getting you killed when I happened to try and form a group with LG and w&f.


Yeah, it definitely turned out different then we had planned. :sweatdrop:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Night has concluded, no more orders will be accepted.

Processing now.

[White_eyes:D]

That explains so much. Including why they wouldn't say anything about it--unsporting. What could have helped you guys ended up getting you killed when I happened to try and form a group with LG and w&f.

Soooo.....Correct me if I am wrong...you just admitted to wiping out a formed Pro-town group??:wall:

Who messed that up??:inquisitive:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Soooo.....Correct me if I am wrong...you just admitted to wiping out a formed Pro-town group??:wall:

Who messed that up??:inquisitive:

GH?

As normal townies, they wouldn't have formed a group that early, decided to make it exclusive, been sure of their partners innocence, and been unwilling to reveal their members. So they ended up looking like a mafia group that was pretending to to be a pro town group and acting shady about it.

[White_eyes:D]

GH?
:laugh4::laugh4:

But in reality, they just missed a golden opportunity....:no:

Why did they do that?....most Mason groups spread out to keep a eye on everyone...(It's what the "incorruptibles" did in Capo three....) I guess Mason partners working together=bad strategy..:sweatdrop:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sorry, quick RL situation came up that ate about 20-30 minutes of my time. I'll be a bit late with the night report.

[Iskander 3.1]

GH has a GF?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Night 3

All was calm on the North Atlantic as the sailors on the Presence did their nightly dance into madness.

"Psst... wake up." Tratorix didn't move.

"Wake up," the voice said a bit louder, jostling Tratorix a bit harder.

"Mmm... mmph!" he muttered as the voice's owner jostled him harder still. "Okay, okay, I'm awake! What is it?"

"We're about to pass Ile de Tresor," said the voice.

"So...?" Tratorix muttered. He had never heard of Ile de Tresor, and especially didn't care about anything that sounded remotely French.

"Have you never heard the tale of the natives of Ile de Tresor?" Tratorix shook his head, so the voice continued, all the while nudging him out of bed and leading him above deck. "As the story goes, one of the Spanish Conquistadors came upon the island on their way to searching for more gold, or possibly the Fountain of Youth. I can never remember. Anyway, at first he and his men were wary of the natives, for they seemed like the normal bloodthirsty savages. But then... then night fell, and one by one his soldiers deserted their posts, headed for parts unknown. Eventually it was about 3 in the morn when the Conquistador had had enough, and decided to see things for himself. Almost instantly, he was taken by an ethereal glow, so lovely in the pale moonlight, that he had no choice but to follow it; it was almost as if he was pulled to it..."

Tratorix could only stare in wonder. "What was it?" he asked.

"Upon closer inspection, the Conquistador realized, in his amazement, that it was actually people. The young female natives of Ile de Tresor had a skin unlike anything found in the rest of the world. It mimicked the sea in the way it was able to reflect the moonlight so beautifully. That night, the sky was clear, the moon was full... and the women were naked, bathing in the silver light. At this point every fiber in the Conquistador's very being was urging him forward; it was impossible to resist. It was the most beautiful sight he had ever seen... until he got closer."

They were now at the edge of the ship when Tratorix grabbed the second person by his shoulders, begging him to finish. "Well?" he demanded. "What happened when he got closer?"

"The natives turned, eyed him seductively... and then tore him apart with their bare hands, just as they had done with the dozens of other soldiers previously that night." Tratorix's eyes widened, but not in shock over the story. Rather, it was the pain of a blade slicing clean through his chest.

"The moral of this story is simple," his attacker said calmly. "If someone points out Ile de Tresor to you at night... it's best if you don't follow, for your own sake." He withdrew his blade and tossed the bleeding Tratorix overboard.


On the other side of the ship, Andres was hauling a fat sack of gold, a cutlass in his mouth, lugging everything to the edge. He was looking for a boat, and secondly a rope to cut...


Iskander 3.1 had no thoughts of abandoning ship, at least not yet. Despite the numerous threats on board, he saw no reason to panic. The Captain had everything in hand, after all. If everybody would just listen to him, maybe order would be restored and they would be able to dispatch their enemies quicker.

Four cutlasses were drawn. "Oh, *#%!," Iskander muttered, hoping to God that the cutlasses were for somebody else. They weren't.

All of a sudden, Iskander was now in full panic mode. As his attackers drew closer to him, he fell to his knees, begging, pleading, spewing his thoughts out as fast as they came through his head, much to the annoyance of everyone who heard him.

"Oh please God don't let me die, I didn't do anything wrong, I know I be a dirty pirate all these years and committed more than my share of trespasses against my Lord, but I did it for me own benefit, I swear, I had to, otherwise I would have lived a miserable life, oh why are you going after me, what did I particularly do to you, I don't deserve this, take my treasure please all of my treasure anything you want it's all yours just please leave me alone I DON'T WANT TO DIE let me see Nassau one last time let me see me best wench one last time I'll do anything you ask just don't-"

His blubbering was interrupted by a blade slicing through his neck. After a second of merciful silence, the four attackers grinned and walked back below decks arm in arm.


Meanwhile, Andres was still looking for a boat, getting more frantic and desperate as time passed. He was already running late as it was, he had meant to have left several hours ago. Eventually - eureka! - he found one. Dropping his sack of treasure loudly, he gripped his cutlass, cutting the rope. The dull "thud" and, a second later, the "splash" of the boat hitting the water was drowned out, however, by the sound of four additional cutlasses being drawn.

"Going somewhere?" one of the new arrivals said. Andres muttered to himself, turning to face his attackers...


Beefy187 was being chased. Not by a beautiful lass in real life, as he would have preferred, or even one in his dreams, as would also have been acceptable. No, instead two very imposing, very serious men were out to get him, and in real life too. Beefy had been running around, trying to hold them back with his cutlass, but he was running out of gas and his pursuers seemed to be as fresh as ever. So he had decided on a different option - hide.

Where to hide on a pirate ship? The Captain's quarters, for one. So Beefy took to putting all of his eggs in one basket and started desperately pounding on Crazed Rabbit's door, hoping for safety. "HELP!" he shouted, pounding relentlessly. "They're after me! I can't hold 'em off much longer, and they're out to kill me! Let me in, please!!!"

Another fresh burst of pounding. He saw a light flicker inside, which only caused him to pound harder. "QUICKLY, QUICKLY, LET ME IN! THEY'RE COMING UP! BE QUICK AND YOU MAY SEE WHO THEY ARE!" He could hear footsteps, not just at his back but also inside the cabin. He started yelling and pounding as loud as he could.

Finally, there was one final sound, a "crash"! Beefy's pursuers had caught up and slammed his head through the glass, only seconds before the door would have opened.


..."Can't ye be lettin' an honest sailor abandon a sinkin' ship with his life?" Andres said.

"What, you mean like a rat?" The others laughed at this.

"So this is how it's going to be," Andres said to himself, sighing. "All right, lads," he called out to his attackers. Have at me, then!" They all charged, but one man in particular was faster than the others. Andres, being a particularly adept sailor at fighting, took advantage of this and grabbed him as he was passing, using his momentum to toss him overboard.

Everybody could hear a loud cracking sound below, and the fight stopped temporarily as everyone looked to see what happened. It became immediately clear: Andres's escape boat had broken apart on impact with the falling attacker.

"Well me hearties, it appears as if ye have a choice now. Ye've got me trapped on this soon-ter-be-ghost ship for another night, at least, that much is certain. But do ye kill me or do ye save yer friend, who most certainly will be a-drownin' without yer help?"

The three remaining sailors put their heads together for a moment before two of them went to the ship's edge to try and reel their comrade back in. The third, meanwhile, looked Andres dead in the eye. "We'll be seein' ye tomorrow night, cully."

"Aye, I bet ye will," Andres said, and tried his best to nonchalantly walk back below deck.


That morning, Captain Crazed Rabbit arose, and was immediately greeted with half of Beefy's corpse poking through his cabin door. "My God, what a bloodbath," he said to himself as he saw the other bodies. This day's meeting was especially grave.

"All right, laddies, ye all know the score, so I not be repeatin' it here," he said. "I do have some additional information to give ye, though. Me and the officers be checkin' out LittleGrizzly and it appears as if he was loyal to the ship until the end. A foul man he may have been, but not foul towards the Presence, at any rate." He paused, only getting a half-hearted chuckled from the crew.

"All right then boys, let's make it a good one."

~~~~~~~~~~~~

It is now Day 4. Voting will conclude Wednesday, October 7th at 23:00 US Eastern.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Attacked: Centurion1 (n1), LittleGrizzly (n1), taka (n2), Andres (n3)

Murdered: LittleGrizzly (n1), atheotes (n2), gibsonsg91921 (n2), Tratorix (n3), Iskander 3.1 (n3), Beefy187 (n3)

Lynched: woad&fangs (d2), Sigurd (d3)

Removed from play: Xehh II, johnhughthom, YLC

Souls aboard (40):
a completely inoffensive name
A Very Super Market
A1 Unit
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Chaotix
CountArach
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Death is Yonder
Diana Abnoba
DisgruntledGoat
Double A
Jolt
Joooray
Khazaar
KukriKhan
Lord Winter
Louis VI the Fat
miotas
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Reenk Roink
ricera10
Sasaki Kojiro
scottishranger
Seamus Fermanagh
shlin28
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
SSNeoperestroika
Subotan
taka
TinCow
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan

[GeneralHankerchief]

GH has a GF?

If I did, I wouldn't anymore after spending so much time hosting this. :laugh4:

[pevergreen]

Vote: Andres

Trying to escape?

:laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

So ye be willing t' vote fer someone who is willing to leave the ship and never return to harm us, eh? How about we not waste our votes on such a thing, and focus perhaps on those who be runnin' around at night murdering, matey.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So ye be willing t' vote fer someone who is willing to leave the ship and never return to harm us, eh? How about we not waste our votes on such a thing, and focus perhaps on those who be runnin' around at night murdering, matey.

You never answered my question about why you started joking around after Sigurd came under pressure. Why didn't you respond to pever with a story about getting thrown out of a bar?

[Yaropolk]

According to the roles, the only person who can kill solo is either the First Mate (Louis). Brits and Mavens may kill on their own only when a single Leutenant or single Maven remain. We can assume more than one Brit is alive since they just recruited. So the solo kill was either Louis, a Maven, or maybe an SK. Louis did you kill anyone last night? If not, we can assume Mavens are down to 1.

And vote Andres. I think he's innocent but he's no good to us off hte ship.

[Double A]

Look, if we kill someone who'd just leave us anyway, don't ye think that'd we'd be better off killin someone who'd do more harm than leave?

[Splitpersonality]

Arrr, voting andres will do us no good! He did nothing last night, save for attempting to escape.


Yarrr, he truly be a rat, but a live rat in support of our ship, of our captain and our flag, be better than a Limey or Mavern.

[Chaotix]

Andres wouldn't be trying to escape if he were either Maven or British. Rather, he would be dedicated to killing us, and that entails staying on board. There is absolutely no way Andres is scum right now, or else this is was very complicated scheme to pull off.

Here is what I suggest. If Andres has any sense in him, he will leave tonight. The mafia will not try to kill him because he is a wasted kill. They may try to recruit him, however, since he is for now basically a confirmed innocent. If Andres has not left the ship in two phases, there is a good chance he's been converted and he should be lynched. Otherwise, he can't have too much gold and he's a waste of a lynch now if he was only going to leave later. Let's lynch someone with some actual suspicion on them.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

hmm, if he is indeed a Maven, it seems a shame to let him escape. He knew he was going to be killed last night. However we could remedy that by attacking him again tonight (maybe a double attack since he defeated this one) and avoid a discussionless bandwagon.

[LittleGrizzly]

As someone who Andres killed I would have to say lynching him would be a pointless move... (though i do like being avenged)

Of course it could be some kind of elaborate plan to make Andres look innocent (very very slim possibility...)

[Splitpersonality]

Or maybe for now he can live? I doubt the maverns or british are given the option to leave thte ship, heck, I bet some townies are not even given the option.

[Reenk Roink]

And vote Andres. I think he's innocent but he's no good to us off hte ship.

:inquisitive:

Vote: Yaropolk

:thumbsdown:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Or maybe for now he can live? I doubt the maverns or british are given the option to leave thte ship, heck, I bet some townies are not even given the option.

The mavens win by leaving the ship, though their captain will yell at them if they don't bring back enough treasure.

Out of curiosity, why do you think some townies aren't given the option?

[Askthepizzaguy]

In response to:


You never answered my question about why you started joking around after Sigurd came under pressure. Why didn't you respond to pever with a story about getting thrown out of a bar?

My joking around, and Sigurd's situation, are entirely unrelated things. You see a connection where none exists. Frankly, I was baffled by the random, sudden bandwagons and the sudden shifting of those bandwagons. I was getting frustrated and decided, as soon as CR said he'd like no more votes on his suspect, to place a joke vote. After that, I dedicated much of my time to being as zany as possible, in protest of what I perceived to be a joke of a round. However, in light of the charge that Sigurd was a maven, perhaps I simply was unaware that we actually had a good suspect, and am thankful he's dead.

If that's not good enough I'll give ye another reason: I signed up for this game after Capo to roleplay and have fun, and finally take a break from being "Askthepizzaguy" for one game. Maybe even not spend all day and all night on it, and just enjoy myself. Alas, that was not to be, because I've been roped into organizing things again, which I did for the past couple nights, and would like to politely bow out of doing so from now on, so I can enjoy a pipe and an ale in peace. Were I being serious, I'd call for your lynching, Sasaki, because your suggestions seem counter-productive. However, as I may have mentioned, I'm just in it for the roleplaying, and I don't really care.

YARRRRR!!!

[miotas]

Arrr, voting andres will do us no good! He did nothing last night, save for attempting to escape.


Yarrr, he truly be a rat, but a live rat in support of our ship, of our captain and our flag, be better than a Limey or Mavern.
Arrrrr, maybe he be the last mavern tryin to leg it with what he's got.

[Splitpersonality]

Out of curiosity, why do you think some townies aren't given the option?

It is my belief that there are townies who for some reason or another, effectively, cannot escape the ship. I'm fairly sure not everyone is given the option, and not just mafia.

I cannot assure you right now, but I do not think Andres has enough gold to please any captain, let alone a Mavern, at this point. If he started with 100, and had one successful kill he should only be around 120 or so, and there are certainly people with more than that.

Sadly I have no proof of any of this, just speculation thusfar :/


EDIT.

@miotas
If he be the last Mavern, let him be, better to see him leavin' and not killin our men at night, and only havin to fight the brits, than keeping him around.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

It is my belief that there are townies who for some reason or another, effectively, cannot escape the ship. I'm fairly sure not everyone is given the option, and not just mafia.

I cannot assure you right now, but I do not think Andres has enough gold to please any captain, let alone a Mavern, at this point. If he started with 100, and had one successful kill he should only be around 120 or so, and there are certainly people with more than that.

Sadly I have no proof of any of this, just speculation thusfar :/


EDIT.

@miotas
If he be the last Mavern, let him be, better to see him leavin' and not killin our men at night, and only havin to fight the brits, than keeping him around.

Hmm, I'm thinking if he is a maven, he has all of sigurd's gold, plus any gold from any kills he's done and the gold for voting and being active, and recruiting before game. Could be as high as 250.

We'll attack him again tonight :yes:

[miotas]

Arrrr! Let that scummy dog flee with our gold after slittin our mates throats it the dark? Arrrr! What kinda pirate be ye?

[Splitpersonality]

:no:

I highly double he has any gold more than 100 and some odd, the absolute max I would say he has, is around 140 or so.

Though, again I can't prove this...


EDIT
@miotas

If he only has what I believe him to has, it'll be of none loss to any pirate, truly a pitiful amount to be escapin with.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

We could also have the quartermaster roleblock him until sigurd's role is revealed. Though that ties up a valuable role.

[Splitpersonality]

I'm sure the captain has someone of use, if ye're looking fer a roleblocker.

It just wouldn't be a large mafia game without one, haha.


Sadly, I be not knowin the name of this man, the captain himself may just know of one though...

[Tratorix]

Yarr, I recommend the lynching of Cultured Drizzt Fan.

[Beefy187]

Dead :shame:

Guess its better being killed rather then lynch yaar?
Good luck mateys!

[pevergreen]

Unvote: Andres

Fine.

Why should we lynch CDF?

Why? Because it'd be fun!

Vote: CDF


edit: To tha cap'n. You sent me who i was going to work with at 4am local time. I got to a computer about 55 minutes after the phase ended. 4 hours earlier...

[CountArach]

Andres is as close to a confirmed innocent as we are likely to find at this point I feel beyond invesitgation powers, which are probably best applied to someone else. Were I in his position, I could see why fleeing would be an attractive option. Not entirely sure who we should be going for though...

[miotas]

Huh? You sayin somefin CA? Wa? Aye, Andres is guilty you say? Rightyo.

Vote: Andres

[Andres]

Andres wouldn't be trying to escape if he were either Maven or British. Rather, he would be dedicated to killing us, and that entails staying on board. There is absolutely no way Andres is scum right now, or else this is was very complicated scheme to pull off.

Here is what I suggest. If Andres has any sense in him, he will leave tonight. The mafia will not try to kill him because he is a wasted kill. They may try to recruit him, however, since he is for now basically a confirmed innocent. If Andres has not left the ship in two phases, there is a good chance he's been converted and he should be lynched. Otherwise, he can't have too much gold and he's a waste of a lynch now if he was only going to leave later. Let's lynch someone with some actual suspicion on them.

I'm not going to abandon ship now that I'm as good as confirmed innocent, thank you very much.





vote Andres. I think he's innocent

Brilliant reasoning for your vote.

Really, this belongs in the category of "most funny mafia quotes" :laugh4:


Hmm, I'm thinking if he is a maven, he has all of sigurd's gold, plus any gold from any kills he's done and the gold for voting and being active, and recruiting before game. Could be as high as 250.

We'll attack him again tonight :yes:

Ridiculous and you know it.


Huh? You sayin somefin CA? Wa? Aye, Andres is guilty you say? Rightyo.

Vote: Andres

No, CA said I'm as good as innocent.

Maybe I should indeed abandon this ship; it's a madhouse floating on the water.

"Hey, that guy over there is innocent! Get him!"

:wall:

[pevergreen]

Makes sense in this game. We are pirates.

[Subotan]

Nice to see that GH followed my advice and replaced the word "omen" with "bloodbath"
:laugh4:

[Jolt]

Unvote: Andres

Fine.

Why should we lynch CDF?

Why? Because it'd be fun!

Vote: CDF


edit: To tha cap'n. You sent me who i was going to work with at 4am local time. I got to a computer about 55 minutes after the phase ended. 4 hours earlier...

This is the reason I'm voting for pevergreen.

Vote: pevergreen

[Subotan]

Andres is as close to a confirmed innocent as we are likely to find at this point I feel beyond invesitgation powers, which are probably best applied to someone else. Were I in his position, I could see why fleeing would be an attractive option. Not entirely sure who we should be going for though...

Doesn't matter. If we wait long enough, one of them will slip up, and we'll have someone to lynch.

Oh my, looks like Pevergreen's foot is hovering very close to that banana.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Yarr, I recommend the lynching of Cultured Drizzt Fan.

Can you explain why? I am kind of pressed for time right now soooo.......

What I want to know is how I am scum when we have both been in the same protection group the entire game. :inquisitive: Especially considering we got the protection money for last night, so it was successful.


edit: OhhHHH :furious3: Tratorix is dead?

ugghhhh. not a good day.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I got protection money, and one of the members of my group didn't even send in his orders.

As such, it is no proof of innocence. That being said, I don't see a case against anyone yet, and... well, my saucy wench has me swabbin' the decks here at our cabin, so I have some work to do. Yarrr....

Vote: Abstain

[Death is yonder]

Vote: Abstain

Don't have much free time lately, but it appears that people are voting for Andres because he tried to leave the ship contrary to what Maven/British would be doing at this point of time? :inquisitive:

Also, it appears that LG was innocent... :stare:

[TinCow]

Yarr, I recommend the lynching of Cultured Drizzt Fan.

This is very interesting and needs to be pursued. This type of post immediately after someone dies usually means that the deader had info that they hadn't released before they died.

Vote: CDF

What reason would Tratorix have for suspecting you?


Andres is as close to a confirmed innocent as we are likely to find at this point I feel beyond invesitgation powers, which are probably best applied to someone else. Were I in his position, I could see why fleeing would be an attractive option. Not entirely sure who we should be going for though...

Wrong, Andres is as close to confirmed guilty as we are likely to find. Eager to vig kill, defended Sigurd vociferously, and then tried to flee with his cash ON NIGHT 3. I find it very doubtful that Andres would quit the game at this stage if he was a townie. He would know he had nowhere near enough gold to win as a townie, and he's not a quitter. Andres was fleeing as an attempt to win... which means Maven.

I recommend Andres be vig killed and CA be investigated.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wrong, Andres is as close to confirmed guilty as we are likely to find. Eager to vig kill, defended Sigurd vociferously, and then tried to flee with his cash ON NIGHT 3. I find it very doubtful that Andres would quit the game at this stage if he was a townie. He would know he had nowhere near enough gold to win as a townie, and he's not a quitter. Andres was fleeing as an attempt to win... which means Maven.

I recommend Andres be vig killed and CA be investigated.

If this is the theory, then the correct move would seem to be lynching Andres, not chancing things on a vigilante kill. It is entirely possible that he might make it off the ship before the vigilante kill takes effect.

And if he is the most likely suspect, then perhaps the order should be reversed, a lynch on Andres and a vigilante kill on CDF. Or perhaps, investigating the man.

[Andres]

Wrong, Andres is as close to confirmed guilty as we are likely to find.

Then you should vote me, instead of CDF. I managed to survive an attack last night, so if you have two suspects, then the one able to survive a vig kill should be lynched, don't you think?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

...I think you have been really suspicious, so suspicious in fact that i almost sort of don't think a mafia would be that open. Then again you may be resigning yourself to the fact that you cannot lie low because you are such a well known player and you would eventually come up so you are building alibis now. Like i said i would not vote for you right now but you are acting rather suspicious...

I believe that's all covered under rule #1. By-the-by, Sasaki would be doing the same regardless of role -- I've yet to see another player so evenly suspicious regardless of role -- it's par of his charm.

Now...

Avast wi' your bickerin' you two! There be little enough time for sleep as it is. Pipe down and get below.

[Andres]

Besides, not only was I trying to abandon the ship and defending myself from an attack, I was also being blocked last night:


You were making preparations to abandon ship, when suddenly you felt a tap on the shoulder.

"Going so soon?" a beautiful woman said, smiling sweetly. You mumble out a response. Drat, all your experience with women happened while drunk. You have no idea how to deal with them when you're sober.

She's just so beautiful though, you can't resist and spend the night together. As the sun is about to rise, you bolt up awake, realizing what time it is. You try to abandon ship, but it's too late in the night and you are attacked. You manage to survive but all hope of abandoning ship for the night is gone.

In the confusion, it takes some time for you to notice that you have several pieces of treasure missing from your stash.

Gold count: 130

Mind you, last night, there have been quite some attacks, hmm...?

All of this while I certainly was not busy with scummy activities.

How much more evidence of my innocence do you need?

Can we now please stop this ridiculous focusing on me and look at other suspects?

[DisgruntledGoat]

Besides, not only was I trying to abandon the ship and defending myself from an attack, I was also being blocked last night:



Mind you, last night, there have been quite some attacks, hmm...?

All of this while I certainly was not busy with scummy activities.

How much more evidence of my innocence do you need?

Can we now please stop this ridiculous focusing on me and look at other suspects?

Beefy was attacked by 2 people (seen in a previous night attack on taka), Iskander by 4 and Tratorix by 1. You were attacked by a 4 as well. 4 = vig group. So two attacks can be disregarded as being British or maven. Reading the write up for Tratorix I have a tough time believing that he was attacked by the British spies or maven crew members. Its completely different from anything in the write ups previously. On night 2, there was a second group of 2 men that attacked atheotes in a standard fashion. So based on that either the British or the mavens were not killing last night. So no, you trying to escape and the number of attacks does not provide any evidence of your innocence. In fact, the write up points more to you being guilty.

[Andres]

That does it. Enough is enough. I give up.

This feels like talking to a wall or having to explain why an orange is not an apple.

[TinCow]

If this is the theory, then the correct move would seem to be lynching Andres, not chancing things on a vigilante kill. It is entirely possible that he might make it off the ship before the vigilante kill takes effect.

And if he is the most likely suspect, then perhaps the order should be reversed, a lynch on Andres and a vigilante kill on CDF. Or perhaps, investigating the man.

Probably, but there's plenty of time in the day phase so far. Pressure on CDF could produce more information, while voting for Andres now will likely just result in an unproductive bandwagon phase.

[edit]Andres' night result is interesting. Looks like we might have a roleblocking thief onboard.

[Andres]

Probably, but there's plenty of time in the day phase so far. Pressure on CDF could produce more information, while voting for Andres now will likely just result in an unproductive bandwagon phase.

No, by all means, let this nonsense end here and now. Lynch me.

Vote : mutiny
Vote : Abstain

[Beskar]

I feel sorry for Andres, he is under the typical "let's just focus on Beskar for no reason" game-style. :beam:

Also: If any townies want to give gold to some one not british or those other crewpersons people I keep doing the name wrong, I am always free to accept. :beam:

[DisgruntledGoat]

That does it. Enough is enough. I give up.

This feels like talking to a wall or having to explain why an orange is not an apple.


Oh I see when someone points out the fallacy of your statement its misdirected, unfair and wrong. Well soooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry. What were you doing on night 2 again and can anyone account for your actions that night.

[CountArach]

Vote: Reenk

Not his usual hilariously spammy self.

[Beskar]

Vote:Reenk Roink

Good enough reason as another, Reenk Roink, what have YOU been up to?

[Andres]

Oh I see when someone points out the fallacy of your statement its misdirected, unfair and wrong. Well soooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry. What were you doing on night 2 again and can anyone account for your actions that night.

I sent in orders to protect YLC with Sasaki and AVSM.

Sasaki sent in the same order, but AVSM replied that he was already doing something else.

We still received our gold, so all was well :2thumbsup:

[DisgruntledGoat]

So technically you didn't do anything that night and were inactive.

[White_eyes:D]

Vote: CDF Why would Tratorix want you lynched? he is not the type to point fingers, unless there is a really GOOD reason:inquisitive: (Case in point...Capo 3:yes:)

[Subotan]

There's nobody worth lynching yet.

[Andres]

Why did you protect YLC that night? I'm not trying to prove you're guilty, I'm just curious.

Why not :shrug: ?

[Louis VI the Fat]

Last night's events. Here's what I make of it:

Tratorix - one or two killers? The wording of the write-up is not clear. Somebody help me out here: 'They were now at the edge of the ship when Tratorix grabbed the second person by his shoulders'. ??
Iskander 3.1 - four men vig kill. Yet again.
Andres - four men vig kill.
Beefy 187 - two men. Cutlass again. English or Maven.




Andres.

If Tratorix was attacked by two men, Andres is off the hook.

At any rate, Andres' orders for last night were to abandon ship. He could not have send in orders to do anything else.

My take?
Andres started this game off as a piraty pirate. Killing, role-playing, calling for mutiny. This made him suspicious to many.

Andres killed Grizz with five people. His life was on the line over it the thread. None (except Sasaki) could be bothered to step forward, or to defend Andres. None of his fellow vig killers could even be bothered to register a vote when the vote was tied and it looked like Andres would be lynched. Some friends.

Then the next day, Andres was at it again in the thread. Calling for mutiny, and calling for Sasaki to become captain.
Then the very same night, Sasaki tries to vig kill him. Andres apparently had nobody to work with anymore.

Thus left entirely friendless, Andres tries to jump ship.

[Andres]

No matter how I die, the scene should carry the title


"Tragedy of a misunderstood pirate".

He did everything right.

He talked like a pirate. He refused to recognise authority, like a pirate. He laughed at those taking orders, like a pirate. He killed for gold, like a pirate. He cared only about himself, like a pirate.

Yet, somehow, somewhere down that road that is called "life", he did something wrong.

Etc etc...

[Beskar]

Work for me Andres, I will put you into Protection groups. *nod*

My protection groups come with Captain's seal of approval, and Louis the Fat's seal of the French Republic.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hmm, if there really were 2 people in the attack on tratorix then Andres is cleared of being a maven (unless sigurd wasn't a maven) and his abandon ship attempt clears him of being british. Theoretically would could have someone try and abandon ship each night and have the Quartermaster block them, but that would be a gamebreaker I think.



Also: If any townies want to give gold to some one not british or those other crewpersons people I keep doing the name wrong, I am always free to accept. :beam:

Why do you keep getting the name wrong?

[naut]

Vote: Reenk

Rum and burried treasure, that's why.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: White_Eyes:D


Reason: Was in pt groups with me N1, N2.... then decided oh everyone is mafia woe is me I have to abandon ship. Then he didn't even attempt to do so. I smell a liar.

Also accused me of being mafia privately (:laugh4: how does that help?) and didn't bother to do so publicly.

[DisgruntledGoat]

Louis,



"The moral of this story is simple," his attacker said calmly. "If someone points out Ile de Tresor to you at night... it's best if you don't follow, for your own sake." He withdrew his blade and tossed the bleeding Tratorix overboard.


It looks like GH just made a mistake, EVERYWHERE else in the write up he refers to the attacker as a singular entity. Likely, GH was just referring to the attacker as the "other" man or "second" man (as in Tratorix plus the other man his attacker). He should definitely clear that up thought.

I'm interested in hearing why CDF is worthy of a lynch when all we have to go on is a dead mans claim with no evidence.

[DisgruntledGoat]

Pizza, if White_Eyes was with you on N2 we already have 2 attacks of 2 on night 2 which means he couldn't have participated. So He couldn't have been part of that. That would leave him being another role.... possibly a lone killer. Interestingly enough, a lone killer shows up on N3 the very night White_Eyes doesn't join your group and doesn't abandon ship.

Vote: White_Eyes:D

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza, if White_Eyes was with you on N2 we already have 2 attacks of 2 on night 2 which means he couldn't have participated. So He couldn't have been part of that. That would leave him being another role.... possibly a lone killer. Interestingly enough, a lone killer shows up on N3 the very night White_Eyes doesn't join your group and doesn't abandon ship.

Vote: White_Eyes:D

I should note, my friend, that our pt groups were never attacked. Our being in them does not prove our innocence. If they were attacked, it would prove something.

[pevergreen]

I'm taking offers of votes for gold.

You will be paid, how much depends on how long I get your vote for.

(I do this because it makes me feel special.)

[DisgruntledGoat]

Thats a good point. Although, the circumstances of White_Eyes not wanting to be apart of your group N3 seems AWFULLY
suspicious.

[White_eyes:D]

My reason was a little private....didn't feel like abandoning ship with little or no chance of success....:juggle2:

I did nothing.....:juggle2:

You were inactive.

Gold count: 138
138=2 protects and the money I got off pevergreen...or to break it down..
100 gold to start with
9 from three votes
4 from PM's
7+8=15 for my two protections
10 off pevergreen:2thumbsup:=138 gold....any problems?:shrug:

[Askthepizzaguy]

That post was entirely unnecessary and reveals unnecessary information.

Good god man.


Also, anyone can fake adding up their own gold. It doesn't take a genius to remember not to add gold to your previous total if you have no alibi.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thanks to that delightful little post I request to be vigilante killed tonight. I can't risk it.

[DisgruntledGoat]

Why not just abandon ship like you said you would do? Hmmm, could it be because you want to ensure your gold gets left to someone?

[TinCow]

Hmm, if there really were 2 people in the attack on tratorix then Andres is cleared of being a maven (unless sigurd wasn't a maven) and his abandon ship attempt clears him of being british. Theoretically would could have someone try and abandon ship each night and have the Quartermaster block them, but that would be a gamebreaker I think.

Hrmm, that does sound correct to me. I wouldn't say it would "clear" him of being a maven, since the mavens could easily have recruited by now, but it would certainly make it highly unlikely.

[White_eyes:D]

It looks bad......but whatever....I walk the plank knowing you stabbed me in the back because I copped out of your group~:mecry:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why not just abandon ship like you said you would do? Hmmm, could it be because you want to ensure your gold gets left to someone?

because there's a chance of it not working.

Look fine, whatever. Let me live and get recruited and then have all kinds of data to spill to the mafia, which I would have to do if I still want to win. Really bad idea.

[TinCow]

I'm taking offers of votes for gold.

You will be paid, how much depends on how long I get your vote for.

(I do this because it makes me feel special.)

Pevergreen is a liar and a cheat. He does not pay when he promises to do so. I have still not received the 7 gold he said he would pay me for my vote. Do not sell your vote to Pevergreen, because he will not pay you even if he says he will.

[White_eyes:D]

Why not just abandon ship like you said you would do? Hmmm, could it be because you want to ensure your gold gets left to someone?

I wanted to leave it to Pizzaguy...but...



You have been recruited by the Mafia.....haven't you??:inquisitive:

regardless, I think I am going to jump ship:bow:

1. Not yet.

2. As you wish. :embarassed:

Don't need any money in case I die attempting this right?:inquisitive:(Being British I am sure you don't..:shame:)

White Eyes, not sure why you think I am mafia, but I have filled the gap you left and am trying to put out a minor crisis fire or two. :bow:

If you believe I am mafia, make your case publicly. If you wish to vigilante me, please do so, as I am now aware of too many power roles and I am now a rather large security risk for the ship.Pizzaguy pretty much cut me out.....A full 360 from his Capo play...where he seemed pretty intent on keeping me in the groups...:shrug:

[Askthepizzaguy]

White Eyes. Man.

You cut yourself out. It was your idea to abandon us. Don't bother pointing the finger at me.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote:Pevergreen

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well since I'm having trouble finding volunteers to kill me for some odd reason.

unvote, vote: Askthepizzaguy

And I'll request a double lynch so I don't disrupt the normal flow of activity on the ship. As you were.

[White_eyes:D]

White Eyes. Man.

You cut yourself out. It was your idea to abandon us. Don't bother pointing the finger at me.

You seemed pretty intent on it being a good idea to leave at the time....no "Keep a stiff upper lip" or anything like that.....You failed me Pizzaguy~:mecry:

It could be a whole misunderstanding.....but regardless this is messed up...:wall:

[Askthepizzaguy]

You seemed pretty intent on it being a good idea to leave at the time....no "Keep a stiff upper lip" or anything like that.....You failed me Pizzaguy~:mecry:

It could be a whole misunderstanding.....but regardless this is messed up...:wall:

If you wanted to leave my protection group, what was I going to do? I needed to find a replacement and deal with you later. Also I had a lot of *stuff* on my hands last night that I was trying to resolve. I.e. being a good townie and putting people into groups and stuff.

You lied when you said you were going to abandon ship. Doing nothing when we needed protectors... forgive me, but... are you really a townie, White_Eyes? And if so... what the heck?

PS- I told you basically to not lose your nerve in the PM you deleted. Oy gevalt.

[DisgruntledGoat]

So pizza guy who would you suggest be the double lynch victim along with you?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So pizza guy who would you suggest be the double lynch victim along with you?


You think we should go along with a double lynch??

[Askthepizzaguy]

How about Sasaki? :mellow:

[White_eyes:D]

Yeah well....I knew abandoning ship was a bad idea for because the lynch write-ups seemed to imply this...."no Islands around.." Now we are near an Island......If anyone wants to jump ship....now would be the best time...:yes:

And a serial killer is around right, when I decide to leave the group....just lovely..:no:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I don't see why it would be suspicious for someone to abandon a protection group that's privy to information that needs to be edited out. Mafia would generally stick with that group...

[DisgruntledGoat]

You think we should go along with a double lynch??

No I'm not too sure what to do with this situation at this point. I'm just trying to figure things out. To me it looks like two townies that are suspicious of each other. I wanted to know who ATPG would suggest for his co-lynchee.

[Askthepizzaguy]

To be honest I have no real leads. I was trying to get White Eyes to explain his behavior by abandoning a pt group for no reason whatsoever. Didn't know he was going to do what he did.

You guys choose. I don't want to be responsible for another townie death besides my own.

[DisgruntledGoat]

o_O that last statement seems awfully atypical for ATPG.

[Askthepizzaguy]

o_O that last statement seems awfully atypical for ATPG.

Then I must be scum. Lynch me.

[Andres]

How about Sasaki? :mellow:

Ah, mister Pizza, but lynching Sasaki would not be a good idea:

1) He always gets investigated at the beginning of the game, if he were guilty, we would have seen evidence already, certainly after 3 nights;
2) The mafia will not recruit Sasaki, because:
a) Sasaki is opposed to winning the game by organising (or should I say "locking") everybody in groups, so no useful intel;
b) nobody trusts Sasaki and he probably ends up lynched sooner or later.

However, those in the middle of the town organisation, are more likely to be recruited (if you aren't scum already): CR, Louis and ATPG.

That's why we simply must have a mutiny at a certain point in the game. And no better candidate to take the position of captain than Sasaki (and myself as his highest ranking officer, of course).

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Unvote:pevergreen, Vote:DisgruntledGoat

Seems to be thinking of how he can benefit from the pizza-white eyes quarrel.

[Yaropolk]

vote Andres. I think he's innocent


Brilliant reasoning for your vote.

Really, this belongs in the category of "most funny mafia quotes" :laugh4:

You can quote it if you want then! The reasoning is purely preventive - if we kill all attempted deserters, the other rats will think twice about leaving the ship!

[Askthepizzaguy]

However, those in the middle of the town organisation, are more likely to be recruited (if you aren't scum already): CR, Louis and ATPG.

Good point. better lynch me to make sure.