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Tratorix
10-14-2009, 14:49
Well Subotan, I could always BRIBE ME be persuaded to BRIBE ME see your point of view.
Read between the BRIBE ME lines.
Bloody pirates. :furious3:
:wink:
KukriKhan
10-14-2009, 14:51
just before i pop in for uni:
I may not have posted much at all, but pretty much all my night actions can be accounted for by at least 2/3/4 people
as pever posted, im working hard for final year uni and this game (like many other huge games) is a monser to catch up on with so many pages to go through. the only real posts i read are the ones GH post up. not being disrespectful of GH's game, just that if i did have time i also need to sort out my own game BSS :bow:
edit
also, what's this list that i'm on? hope its not a hit-list... :sweatdrop:
Good enough for now. Thanks.
unvote: taka
Askthepizzaguy
10-14-2009, 14:51
also, what's this list that i'm on? hope its not a hit-list... :sweatdrop:
No it's not a hit....
uh....
yeah, yeah that's what it is. Bribe me and I'll spare your life.
No one tell him otherwise!
No it's not a hit....
uh....
yeah, yeah that's what it is. Bribe me and I'll spare your life.
No one tell him otherwise!
what's with you and being bribed :laugh4:
FoS: ATPG for wanting so much money!
Askthepizzaguy
10-14-2009, 14:55
FOS: Taka
For not wanting so much money. We're greedy pirates and we bleed gold and pee rubies and have diamonds on our junk. Or perhaps I have venereal disease.
FOS: Taka
For not wanting so much money. We're greedy pirates and we bleed gold and pee rubies and have diamonds on our junk. Or perhaps I have venereal disease.
good point
FoS: taka
Askthepizzaguy
10-14-2009, 15:01
For ten gold I can be bribed not to give you venereal disease.
ATPG just want's ten gold so he doesn't need to use the same wench who gave him the VD last time ~D
Askthepizzaguy
10-14-2009, 15:19
Yes, I am in the market for the more expensive floozies. Help an old sea dog out... after years of eating rotting food, getting scurvy, swashbuckling wounds, skin lesions from not bathing, and being touched inappropriately by Itchy Lou at night in the bunk we shared and then being unceremoniously covered in parrot droppings for me trouble, Smilin' Sam has had enough! It's time to pay the piper. Me wants to retire to an island on the Caribbean, filled with scantily clad, bronze-skinned women frolicking on the beach. Someplace what never heard of venereal disease b'fore. Where the women can't hold their liquor or remember a gull dang thing in the mornin'. You know, some place to actually want to be sober enough to remember in me declining years, until me remaining teeth rot out and i get a massive infection and die.
Alms! Alms for the greedy and undeserving! It's fer a good cause...
just before i pop in for uni:
I may not have posted much at all, but pretty much all my night actions can be accounted for by at least 2/3/4 people
as pever posted, im working hard for final year uni and this game (like many other huge games) is a monser to catch up on with so many pages to go through. the only real posts i read are the ones GH post up. not being disrespectful of GH's game, just that if i did have time i also need to sort out my own game BSS :bow:
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also, what's this list that i'm on? hope its not a hit-list... :sweatdrop:
Ok, that makes sense. You just looked suspicious, unfortunately.
Unvote:Taka, Vote:Abstain
Vote: Psychonaut I guess...
Rum, rum, rum, rum, rum, rum, rum, rum, I like rum!
Wow this new rum I'm trying is strong stuff!
Vote: Shiln 28 I guess.... ~D :tongue:
Centurion1
10-14-2009, 16:19
taka is really busy especially with bss.... and he has mentioned uni before
White_eyes:D
10-14-2009, 16:20
Unless you guys have a better plan:shrug:....we better start crossing people off that list...Psychonaut goes first...Vote: Psychonaut
I don't really know what to say. Yes, I'm an awesome Maven baddy, who killed(?) people.
If y'all be paying attention first three(?), two (?) days I was away and made pretty much no posts on the forum. Um. Also I like killing, or is that sleeping? Well regardless I slept. Then the otherday I protected, but seems I was stuck with some people. No idea who they are or will be or something. Then I voted, twice, but indeed, a master plot, a stroke of pure jesus, uh, genius. Miracles, barnacles, no? Or something. But then. I forget. I'll be on a hammock. Do as ye please.
White_eyes:D
10-14-2009, 16:37
I don't really know what to say. Yes, I'm an awesome Maven baddy, who killed(?) people.
Sarcasm is the quickest way to being lynched...(I know....I used it:sweatdrop:)
Therefore, I will meet your Sarcasm with my own...:yes: "We have the vile Maven scum:clown:"
Hmmmmm... Hammocks. I like hammocks :yes:
CountArach
10-14-2009, 16:42
I don't really know what to say. Yes, I'm an awesome Maven baddy, who killed(?) people.
If y'all be paying attention first three(?), two (?) days I was away and made pretty much no posts on the forum. Um. Also I like killing, or is that sleeping?[/B] Well regardless I slept. Then the otherday I protected, but seems I was stuck with some people. No idea who they are or will be or something. Then I voted, twice, but indeed, a master plot, a stroke of pure jesus, uh, genius. Miracles, barnacles, no? Or something. But then. I forget. I'll be on a hammock. Do as ye please.
Loved this post :laugh4:
Yaropolk
10-14-2009, 16:57
Here is ATPG's suspect list:
SSNeoperestroika
a completely inoffensive name
Joooray
Khazaar
miotas
Psychonaut
Subotan
A Very Super Market
For my personal considerations I removed the following people from this list:
Jooray - likely innocent (see LG/W&F kills on N1)
Subotan, Miotas, AVSM - The 3 claim to have worked together to defend ACIN on a night when a maven murder occured.
This leaves:
SSNeo
ACIN
Khazaar
Psychonaut
I think the town would be best served if these 4 individuals came forward and documented their actions to date, hopefully in a more coherent manner than Psychonaut.
For now pressure Vote SSNeo - speak up man!
White_eyes:D
10-14-2009, 17:02
For now pressure Vote SSNeo - speak up man!
ATPG said he had something on that proves he shouldn't be lynched..:shrug:
As such, and given SSN's recent voting behavior, I'm going to go with perhaps... Psychonaut.
For my personal considerations I removed the following people from this list:
Subotan, Miotas, AVSM - The 3 claim to have worked together to defend ACIN on a night when a maven murder occured.
I'm not sure how that clears them. ACIN wasn't attacked, so there's no evidence any of them actually showed up.
Yaropolk
10-14-2009, 17:19
I am not clearing them by any means, and they are welcome to step forward and account their actions. I do think that it's more likely that our suspect is hiding in the pool of other 4 people, so I'd like to put some pressure on them. I know what ATPG said about Psychonaut / SSNeo. As we can see, pressure voting Psychonaut worked - he came out of the woodwork with his rant. I'd like to see SSNeo, Khazaar, and ACIN account for their actions as well, then we can choose the most likely suspect out of them to lynch.
I would encourage the people whose vote is currently on Psycho to put some pressure on the other 3 to come forward.
I am not clearing them by any means, and they are welcome to step forward and account their actions. I do think that it's more likely that our suspect is hiding in the pool of other 4 people, so I'd like to put some pressure on them. I know what ATPG said about Psychonaut / SSNeo. As we can see, pressure voting Psychonaut worked - he came out of the woodwork with his rant. I'd like to see SSNeo, Khazaar, and ACIN account for their actions as well, then we can choose the most likely suspect out of them to lynch.
I would encourage the people whose vote is currently on Psycho to put some pressure on the other 3 to come forward.
That's a fair assessment. I will...
Vote: Khazaar
2 posts the entire game, but one was yesterday. His post history also shows that he's been active on the forums while the game has been going on, including in another mafia game, but he's been strangely silent here.
Louis VI the Fat
10-14-2009, 17:40
Vote: A Very Super Market
- Scummy name for a pirate.
- Has 'Melancholic swashbuckler' for a title. (Sad to see his two Maven buddies go?)
- He's on the 'Maven' list
- Visited Sigurd's personal page
- Has barely posted since Sigurd and Gibson were killed
- His posts sound scummy:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/search.php?searchid=238621
[link probably doesn't work. It links to AVSM's posts in this threadI've got me own list. And when I single out an individual from this list, surely he can expect to be investigated the following night.
khaan was protecting last night. He is also dead now.
A Very Super Market was killing last night.
You are the manliest pirate aboard this ship. Nobody has drunk more rum than you have. You earn twenty gold for fullfuling this objective.
Gold count: 642AVSM killed CA last night. Well done, I should say. But we are looking for two sets of scum.
FoS:
Subodan
ACIN
Miotas
What say you four to this?
Louis VI the Fat
10-14-2009, 17:41
At 14:24 Subotan calls Taka out for lurking.
At 14:27(!!!) pevergreen has found (made up / typed) previous conversations with Taka, in which Taka explains why he hasn't had time to play and is not really into this game.
At 14:35 (!!!) Taka suddenly has enough time to make an elaborate post saying how he doesn't really read this thread excpet for GH's posts, and is otherwise busy.
In the following hour, rather than popping in for uni as he said he would, Taka has all the time, plus all of the concentration for this game, to write several more posts to answer all the allegations. Until the bandwagon wears off.
Scummy scummy scummy scummy scummy scummy scummy scummy
just before i pop in for uni:
I may not have posted much at all, but pretty much all my night actions can be accounted for by at least 2/3/4 people
as pever posted, im working hard for final year uni and this game (like many other huge games) is a monser to catch up on with so many pages to go through. the only real posts i read are the ones GH post up. not being disrespectful of GH's game, just that if i did have time i also need to sort out my own game BSS :bow:
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also, what's this list that i'm on? hope its not a hit-list... :sweatdrop:
GeneralHankerchief
10-14-2009, 17:47
For the record, I have warned Khazaar several times about his lack of posting now and if he does not lodge a vote this round, he will be replaced.
I'll place my pressure vote: vote:ACIN
AVSM killed CA last night. Well done, I should say. But we are looking for two sets of scum.
Indeed. Worth noting that the lack of a Maven kill last night might indicate that the Maven was covering his actions in some other manner: possibly even in that vig group. Can we get a list of that group, to compare their known actions with nights of previous Maven kills?
Yaropolk
10-14-2009, 17:54
Just two problems with that theory, partner. Taka was on my first list, kind of high up. And Taka was protecting the guy that the long-winded storyteller was attacking on night five.
You want to play the lottery one more time?
Agree with LTF that Taka is acting super scummy, but what about ATPG's assertion?
White_eyes:D
10-14-2009, 17:59
Yeah...I don't think he is guilty of anything....unless he hasn't killed yet...:laugh4:(On that night all the killers were out:shrug:)
How dare you Louis. How dare you take a reasoned and well thought out approach. This is not what I ordered! No! I want mayhem, and un-distilled verbal tirades. Take the helm, or bow and other miscellaneous ship terms and lead, nay, enforce a wave bound inquisition. I demand the rack!
[Language please - GH]
Seamus Fermanagh
10-14-2009, 18:36
Bien, cher Louis. Je t'agree.
That's frog-talk for, I think he's right lads...
Vote: taka
Louis VI the Fat
10-14-2009, 18:42
Taka remains suspect. Pever jumped to his defense but is dead. Centurion, why did you jump to Taka's defense? Have you been sharing stuff with pevergreen perchance too?
But I'm putting a pressure vote on AVSM. I want to know who he is killing with.
Vote: A Very Super Market
But I'm putting a pressure vote on AVSM. I want to know who he is killing with.
Vote: A Very Super Market
You don't know? :inquisitive: I was under the impression that was an Officer-sanctioned hit. You're saying that entire group made the CA kill totally independently?
Unvote; Vote: AVSM
scotchedpommes
10-14-2009, 19:28
I am not clearing them by any means, and they are welcome to step forward and account their actions. I do think that it's more likely that our suspect is hiding in the pool of other 4 people, so I'd like to put some pressure on them. I know what ATPG said about Psychonaut / SSNeo. As we can see, pressure voting Psychonaut worked - he came out of the woodwork with his rant. I'd like to see SSNeo, Khazaar, and ACIN account for their actions as well, then we can choose the most likely suspect out of them to lynch.
I would encourage the people whose vote is currently on Psycho to put some pressure on the other 3 to come forward.
Been involved in unchallenged protection groups every night, though I'd doubt that proves chuff, they were organised by or otherwise known to the officers. As for reference to voting, was more than happy to end Sasaki, [and his cohorts before him] which I'd imagine is what the pizza is pointing to.
Centurion1
10-14-2009, 20:21
Vote: abstain for now
Louis VI the Fat
10-14-2009, 20:23
No, Tincow, the officers were not involved. Though these four are quite succesful, so I wish I could say we were involved.
The 'Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse' killed:
Scottishranger (English)
Diana (...?...)
CountArach (English unless I'm mistaken)
I must congratulate them on their succes in killing English. But the plot thickens this way...
Come on lads, speak out! There's PM too. I've got an idea of who you are anyway (mi..su...ac...what was it?)
Also, Taka survived a two-man attack earlier in the game.
Crazed Rabbit
10-14-2009, 20:31
Subotan and SSNeo both voted for andres, switching from Sigurd, before I revealed the detective results on Sigurd. There were others, but these two stuck out to me in a brief re-read.
For now, I'd like to find out who AVSM has been working with.
CR
Vote: AVSM because I dont believe in killing...
Cultured Drizzt fan
10-14-2009, 20:46
very suspicious Khazaar, not even answering the accusations against you?:inquisitive:
Vote: Khazaar
Hmm, ATPG supposedly has me on his suspect list when I have done multiple succsessful protections for him but I guess that wouldn´t be the first time. I´m constantly in protectiongroups since night 2, If I am anything else than town I´m very patient and deserve to win....
Centurion1
10-14-2009, 20:52
Vote: khazzar
Yaropolk
10-14-2009, 20:54
Been involved in unchallenged protection groups every night, though I'd doubt that proves chuff, they were organised by or otherwise known to the officers. As for reference to voting, was more than happy to end Sasaki, [and his cohorts before him] which I'd imagine is what the pizza is pointing to.
Thanks for coming forward. unvote SSNeo vote Khazar. Come out come out wherever you are!
See, thats what you get for posting instead of just beeing in protectiongroups at night.
Cultured Drizzt fan
10-14-2009, 20:58
Hmm, ATPG supposedly has me on his suspect list when I have done multiple succsessful protections for him but I guess that wouldn´t be the first time. I´m constantly in protectiongroups since night 2, If I am anything else than town I´m very patient and deserve to win....
I am willing to wait until Atpg says if you are telling the truth or not. :whip: but only till then
Unvote: Khazaar
I'll vouch for Khazaar. I've been protecting people with him and Chaotix for several nights now under Crazed Rabbit's orders. :yes:
Yaropolk
10-14-2009, 21:15
Hmm, ATPG supposedly has me on his suspect list when I have done multiple succsessful protections for him but I guess that wouldn´t be the first time. I´m constantly in protectiongroups since night 2, If I am anything else than town I´m very patient and deserve to win....
Ok, Unvote Khazaar Vote AVSM
Askthepizzaguy
10-14-2009, 21:29
Hmm, ATPG supposedly has me on his suspect list when I have done multiple succsessful protections for him but I guess that wouldn´t be the first time. I´m constantly in protectiongroups since night 2, If I am anything else than town I´m very patient and deserve to win....
The person you protected never got attacked. Just like the people CountArach protected.
I also note that this is the first round you lodged a single vote, and it was to save your fanny.
unvote, vote: Khazaar
Death to the lurkers.
Yaropolk
10-14-2009, 21:46
Idea for officers for tonight:
Organize both attack and defense groups to target the same folks like in Rubicon. This way defense group participants don't have an excuse.
Askthepizzaguy
10-14-2009, 22:10
Perhaps it is time to compare notes. I was tired and didn't want to go into detail.
Askthepizzaguy- Investigated fully, incorruptible since
Louis VI the Fat- Investigated fully, incorruptible since
Crazed Rabbit- Captain- investigated as inactive during mafia killsPerhaps it's time, since they are never going to be lynched or killed at night, for one of the people who cleared us to come forward.
Seamus Fermanagh- successful protections during Maven kill (Night FOUR- ATPG)
shlin28- successful protections during maven kill (Night FOUR-ATPG)
Captain Blackadder- successful protections during maven kill (Night FIVE-Beskar)
Death is Yonder- successful protections during maven kill (Night FIVE-Beskar)
taka- successful protections during maven kill (Night FIVE-Beskar)
Cultured Drizzt Fan- successful protection early game. (Night One- Centurion1)All visible in the writeups. A starting maven just doing protections night one, which happened to get hit? Not sure about that. Though CDF is the weakest of these.
White_eyes:D- investigated as inactive during Night Five.
Yaropolk- Inactive during Night five by investigation.
spL1tp3r50naL1ty- Also inactive night five. :no: This is a good thing in this case.
TinCow- part of the vigilante hit on me night four. Obviously not the long-winded killer. But otherwise long-winded and after my job... :wink: Go get em tiger.
KukriKhan- investigated as doing protections on night of Maven kill.
Chaotix- Is a pretty cool guy. Eh protects people and doesn't afraid of anything. He could be something special.
Beskar- He's my special little guy. Nobody touches him but me... :heart:
Centurion1- I believe he was checked out by the same guy that was checking me out. Rivalry!!!
Reenk Roink- He's the other half of peverreenk, and therefore must live. I believe he was checked out last night, too. Waiting for the results from my contacts.
Lord Winter- Didn't send in orders N5, according to my notes. I believe he was checked out last night, waiting on results?
slashandburn- due for investigation tonight.
SSNeoperestroika- I like his vote choices. Very much so. You get to sneak through this round... :bow:
Joooray- Has a lot of O's in his name. But there was this thing, involving LG and woad...
A1 Unit- Steak sauce.
Psychonaut- Well, he's a psycho, that's gotta mean something.
Khazaar- Only vote was in self-preservation, target never attacked.
Double A- Didn't send in orders N5, according to my notes. Not great.
Of these, many are doing protections, but some are still suspects and I won't be more specific than that.
A Very Super Market- Part of the Four horsemen, ya? And so therefore not protecting, ya?
Subotan- If not really protecting, what are you doing?
miotas- If not really protecting, what are you doing?
a completely inoffensive name- What have you done all game? You didn't even claim to be protecting.
You know, if the four vigilantes would just come forward and admit what they were doing, uh... we could probably solve this thing... you know... and stuff... and things and stuff.
You guys are like, heroes and junk.
vote: khazaar
because i have no idea and pizza seems to be voting him too
ATPG, I've been in protection groups since night one and I've been acting either under your orders or CR's.
Unvote; Vote: Reenk Roink
Information pending...
Cultured Drizzt fan
10-14-2009, 23:10
Alibi blew up into smoke..... :tongue:
Vote: Khazaar
unvote:Reenk Roink; vote: ACIN
RR is not the Mafia, he is just a very naughty boy.
pevergreen
10-14-2009, 23:19
unvote:Reenk Roink; vote: ACIN
RR is not the Mafia, he is just a very naughty boy.
And dont I know it. :whip:
Don't lynch taka...you'll be step closer to victorydefeat!
Hi Yarapolk. Did you have fun last night? ~:wave:
Reenk Roink
10-14-2009, 23:51
Vote: Beskar
Town's basically won now, so I wish to deprive slanderers of victory. :stare:
Hope these people (people who voted for me) die:
TinCow
Beskar
Psychonaut
Louis
(any others?)
Crazed Rabbit
10-14-2009, 23:53
On this ship, we don't be countin' our eggs before they hatch.
CR
pevergreen
10-14-2009, 23:58
You certainly were.
Oh lookey at me! I found the maven!
If ya did then why is the game still going. Cause the brits arent here no more.
Yet what does that make me?
You have no idea how deep this runs...
I am not slanderous at all.
If I revealed what I know, the vote swing would have you dead instantly. Only reason I withdrew it, was because there is apparently an legitimate reason and that reason will be verified tonight. If it isn't the case, you are dead.
Askthepizzaguy
10-15-2009, 00:05
ATPG, I've been in protection groups since night one and I've been acting either under your orders or CR's.
So was CountArach and Yaseikhaan. That's ALL I'M SAYING.
If your protection target was never attacked, then you're still a suspect! That's all... it's just rational deduction. We are still doing this, aren't we?
edit: there's another option, we could just claim victory now.
Reenk Roink
10-15-2009, 00:12
I am not slanderous at all.
If I revealed what I know, the vote swing would have you dead instantly. Only reason I withdrew it, was because there is apparently an legitimate reason and that reason will be verified tonight. If it isn't the case, you are dead.
Right, then do it. :rolleyes: Beskar just accept the fact that you command no influence on this ship whatsoever. If I weren't so busy, I would order two vig groups against you this night, one to bypass your protection, the other to kill you for real.
Thank god too, given your role, it is sad you are such a waste by investigating the wrong people. :no:
So I should have been in vig groups...?:inquisitive:
A Very Super Market
10-15-2009, 00:16
Yes, actually. That way, you can kill Brits and mavens all the time.
Vote: Abstain
Would like to speak, but must first confer. For now, I just request that people don't bandwagon like crazy on a beneficial, sociopathic townie.
Askthepizzaguy
10-15-2009, 00:16
@A1
What are you worried about man??? You're not even the top suspect.
:inquisitive:
@AVSM
Were your EB buddies the four horsemen? Was it that obvious?
pevergreen
10-15-2009, 00:16
Why waste it going against beskar.
Hi Yarapolk. :wink:
@A1
What are you worried about man??? You're not even the top suspect.
:inquisitive:
I don't want to be on your low suspect list because I'm innocent - if you would please investigate me tonight you can confirm it.:yes:
Askthepizzaguy
10-15-2009, 00:24
I don't want to be on your low suspect list because I'm innocent - if you would please investigate me tonight you can confirm it.:yes:
You've got a streak of yellow down your back, sonny.
Fortunately we don't have much to worry about anymore. I'm going to go get drunk.
unvote, vote: Mickey Mouse
pevergreen
10-15-2009, 00:24
I'd be voting for minnie if I were you.
Reenk Roink, remove that stick and smell it.
pevergreen
10-15-2009, 00:29
Oh no you didn't!
*Grabs popcorn*
Askthepizzaguy
10-15-2009, 01:04
unvote, vote: Khazaar
Well I was thinking maybe we got lucky and the game was over, but it's not happening. So back to work. I still want me ale, though.
pevergreen
10-15-2009, 01:16
Ok, I'm bored of waiting.
I'm going to give out clues to a person you want dead. Very dead, very much.
I'm sorry to them but hey.
Like a system sitting behind me,
This person has been growing with glee,
As they sit and sigh and scheme
My technicians sit and play with the e.
Yaropolk
10-15-2009, 01:23
Why waste it going against beskar.
Hi Yarapolk. :wink:
Hello :sweatdrop:
Someone want to do a tally?
A Very Super Market
10-15-2009, 01:30
*Sigh, I refuse to die waiting for someone else's response.
Vote: Khazaar to tie it up, I think.
Centurion1
10-15-2009, 01:57
I am amazing. I am innocent go ahead vote for me. i revel in my innocence, mwahahahahaha
Its nice for a change of pace........ (capo was alot more work as mafia)
pevergreen
10-15-2009, 02:35
I don't have the patience for this.
Lets get ATPG.
Officers, I believe you know why.
:evilgrin:
If you lynch ATPG, I promise that the game will end tonight.
KukriKhan
10-15-2009, 03:06
Vote: Khazaar
weak case, but the one with the most substance. *sigh*
Splitpersonality
10-15-2009, 03:07
School ran until 9PM tonight, again.
Vote: Abstain and sorry for not being caught up right now :/
Vote: TinCow
I'm tired, and I don't want to have anything to do with breaking this tie right now.
Askthepizzaguy
10-15-2009, 03:44
I don't have the patience for this.
Lets get ATPG.
Officers, I believe you know why.
Because I was a very naughty boy?
:laugh4:
I'm a born-again pizzaguy. Begone, devil-man! :clown:
pevergreen
10-15-2009, 04:15
Back demon! Back to the foul depths where you sold your soul to join the maven
a completely inoffensive name
10-15-2009, 04:22
Why does this always happen on Wednesday when I am busy.
I am getting sick of this bandwagoning. Especially since no one knows what they are talking about.
Beskar you are a flat out lier because you obviously don't know every pro town person. I am a townie, I got the message to prove it. Come over to my house and I will show it to you. You claim here and in Capo to know the in and outs of everybody yet you say nothing, and you always take all your knowledge to the grave it seems.
Me and my Tavern friends are making sure none of us get killed by the four horsemen and are protecting each other. It's called sticking together.
You want to talk about suspicious why is it that when CA criticizes ATPG and White Eyes he dies and yet it is obviously AVSM? What a scapegoat if I ever have seen one. I am getting tired of this ATPG guy can do no wrong and will lead the town to victory so lets listen to whatever he and his cronies has to say. And I am getting sick of the endless persecution of people like AVSM by people like White_Eyes which does nothing but make me think of what agenda they have that makes them campaign so much against one person.
None of us know anything about the F.H., the four horsemen have killed a Maven and what looks to be a Brit, so obviously they must be exterminated? Since when have most people here have stopped to question a town leader when he starts ordering random townies killed for the sake of getting the mafia. yeah, but since this is not the face everyone loves and trusts, this cannot be stood for. What is going on? No one knows, so lets obviously just bandwagon on a few by portraying them as an entity that has not revealed their motive yet?
This is blatant manipulation of the confusion by some people in order to gain more power and control in the game and I am tiring of it.
EDIT: Got rid of the Serious Business parts.
ATPG said that he has been investigated and proven to be an able seaman, can any of the other officers confirm this?
Crazed Rabbit
10-15-2009, 04:27
That is what I heard from a watchstander, and my first mate IIRC.
CR
Askthepizzaguy
10-15-2009, 04:33
:hide: :help:
pevergreen
10-15-2009, 04:35
ME LIKEY ANGRY! ME LIKEY ANGRY!
Moving on from that:
Have you and your buddies join a game where pro-town groups are not an option.
If you don't like how the town flocks to ATPG, lynch him.
Thats kind of what I'm trying to do here.
Was this before or after he became an officer, pever keeps accusing him, but he's dead and not supposed to give away anything that could effect the game, so he's probably just trying to confuse us. :shrug:
a completely inoffensive name
10-15-2009, 04:41
lol @Pever: yeah maybe I was a bit angry. Sorry about that, Wednesday's are rough for me.....
Here is a message Louis sent me:
Congrats!
You are off the hook! You are not one of the original maven.
In order of probability:
AVSM
Subotan
Miotas
And not you.
EDIT: Will edit last post so it is not as angry.
a completely inoffensive name
10-15-2009, 04:48
If you don't like how the town flocks to ATPG, lynch him.
Thats kind of what I'm trying to do here.
That would violate my mafia rule of not bringing attention to myself unless I am comedic relief or if there are single ladies in the thread...
Crazed Rabbit
10-15-2009, 04:48
1. Aemilius Paulus
2. A Very Super Market
3. Crazed Rabbit*
4. Evil_Maniac From Mars
5. GeneralHankerchief
6. Greyblades
7. india
8. miotas
9. Peasant Phill
10. Zain
The last ten visitors to pevergreen's profile.
CR
Askthepizzaguy
10-15-2009, 04:58
Is it safe to take off my brown pants now?
a completely inoffensive name
10-15-2009, 05:02
Yes.
White_eyes:D
10-15-2009, 05:07
I am getting sick of the endless persecution of people like AVSM by people like White_Eyes which does nothing but make me think of what agenda they have that makes them campaign so much against one person.
Because I like you ACIN (Your a troll and a funny one at that), I won't take offense to the above post:bow:
In the game of Mafia....you must mess with your opponents mind:yes: Get him to drop hints of his guilt or information he tries to keep hidden...I can't do that, if I don't pursue someone like an annoying dog:shame:
AVSM was not lynched....I didn't think he needed lynching really but you didn't exactly come up with a better target or any new information to help with that...:shrug:
but it gets discussion going. No discussion=Not much of a Mafia game:no:
Askthepizzaguy
10-15-2009, 05:13
All right. White_eyes.... wash my pants. Do this and you'll get double rations for a week. And perhaps a first crack at any mermaids we might encounter.
White_eyes:D
10-15-2009, 05:16
All right. White_eyes.... wash my pants. Do this and you'll get double rations for a week. And perhaps a first crack at any mermaids we might encounter.
You do know they are really some type of Seals, right?:eyebrows:
Askthepizzaguy
10-15-2009, 05:18
That's nothing. Itchy Lou once got drunk and went to bed with the most enchanting woman, and woke up and realized it was actually a manatee.
Splitpersonality
10-15-2009, 05:21
That's nothing. Itchy Lou once got drunk and went to bed with the most enchanting woman, and woke up and realized it was actually a manatee.
I am not a manatee
:(
Askthepizzaguy
10-15-2009, 05:23
I couldn't tell from yer breath laddie. Harr harr harr... :pirate2:
Splitpersonality
10-15-2009, 05:23
Yarr, fair enough. :D
a completely inoffensive name
10-15-2009, 05:28
Because I like you ACIN (Your a troll and a funny one at that), I won't take offense to the above post:bow:
In the game of Mafia....you must mess with your opponents mind:yes: Get him to drop hints of his guilt or information he tries to keep hidden...I can't do that, if I don't pursue someone like an annoying dog:shame:
AVSM was not lynched....I didn't think he needed lynching really but you didn't exactly come up with a better target or any new information to help with that...:shrug:
but it gets discussion going. No discussion=Not much of a Mafia game:no:
I like you White_Eyes (such an awesome name), and I wasn't trying to be disrespectful.
I am just making a complaint about that "annoying dog" style of discussion. I believe there is a much more constructive way to build up arguments then attack, attack, attack.
For mafia games my suggestion is let's trying to build upon sound logic until the arguments grows with each persons contribution and not trying to pick up on perceived suspicions from a person's argument.
Now, this Four Horsemen, I just cannot see the logic in a mafia/Brit and/or mafia/brit infiltrated vig group purposely attacking mafia and brits.
Let us note that the very first attack of this vig group was a maven member, others may have been slip ups but this last attack may very well have sealed the fate of the town enemies. What does that tell me? Maybe they are perhaps the best hope for the town, to destroy a maven in its first attack takes information that the maven/brits obviously can't handle being in the hands of townies. I think this F.H. group should be studied for further results before we try to expose them and lynch them. This is why I am suspicious of those that are trying to do this. Think about it this way, if the F.H. are truly a pro town group they obviously are on top of the enemies and if we were to expose them, they would almost certainly be killed/disabled very quickly by remaining maven/brits.
Now I will let others build upon that which I have deduced and hypothesized.
EDIT: Also, sorry if it seemed as if I was attacking you ATPG. My frustration is not that you take up the leadership position but that it seems that the town acts like sheep and lets you in every game I have participated/lurked. Obviously, if you were to be a mafia and everyone once again lets you become a key leader so to speak, I have no doubt you are smart enough to manipulate your position for an easy mafia victory which is what I fear.
KukriKhan
10-15-2009, 05:33
Rant is spoilered below:
Ye gawds... I dislike, in the extreme, these midnight/noon end times. What is the difference between 12:01 and 00:01? Twelve hours? or none? Depends on the frame of reference of the time-issuer.
It's why military operations are almost never scheduled at or near Noon or Midnight if possible. "Wait. Who scheduled the air strike for 1204? A civilian? Did he mean 4 minutes after noon or 4 minutes after midnight?".
2359 I understand. 1 minute 'til midnight. 1159 I comprende... 1 minute 'til Noon. What is 12:01? One minute after Noon or 1 minute after Midnight?
*Sigh* I's gettin too old fer this.
Players (and hosts) should disregard the rantings of an old man. He's just ticked off because he thought something would be happening around 2100 his Pacific time, and stayed up to watch. Only to be disappointed and realize that said event would occur 12 hours hence, when he was a work.
Harrrrgh. <-gratuitous pirate expression. Don't wanna get accused of spamming again, so I thought I'd explain.
GeneralHankerchief
10-15-2009, 05:36
Kukri: In the past, I've marked midnight end times as 00:01. I do see your point though, and will adapt the 11:59/23:59 endpoints from now on. :bow:
White_eyes:D
10-15-2009, 05:40
Point 1 about playstyle:Everyone has there own....I know mine is much like Beskar's...but more suicidal:clown:
Point 2 about the FourHorsemen:I never tried to expose the Four Horsemen, not something I would want to lynch anyone over yet:juggle2:
Point 3 about ATPG:ATPG is tricky...but he just wants to fool around mostly...pretty much what I want to do with most of the Mafia teams dead....:2thumbsup:
a completely inoffensive name
10-15-2009, 05:48
Point 1 about playstyle:Everyone has there own....I know mine is much like Beskar's...but more suicidal:clown:
Point 2 about the FourHorsemen:I never tried to expose the Four Horsemen, not something I would want to lynch anyone over yet:juggle2:
Point 3 about ATPG:ATPG is tricky...but he just wants to fool around mostly...pretty much what I want to do with most of the Mafia teams dead....:2thumbsup:
Point 1: I see...well I guess people wouldn't do it if it didn't work.
Point 2: Ahh, it was my impression you were thinking AVSM was linked to the F.H. which was why you were pressing against him. Nevermind if that wasn't the case. :bow:
Point 3: Yeah, same here, I love fooling around near the end of the game. But this game seems different then most others. Because there seems to be a lot of confusion about a great many things, I have been in super serious mode even up until now even though the maven and brits are done for. I guess I should start to relax a bit now.
EDIT: Will be gone for an hour. Will discuss more (calmly) when I return if anyone wishes to.
White_eyes:D
10-15-2009, 05:56
I thought AVSM was one of the guys who attacked ATPG with Sasaki....later proved false....:juggle2:
That confusion made me think he was a Brit:shrug:(I mean I thought he attacked with Sasaki, so I figured he was a Brit)
I wouldn't relax just yet....tomorrow night well tell us, if we are free to relax for a while:sweatdrop:
A Very Super Market
10-15-2009, 05:59
Tally ('Cause someone's gotta do it)
Khazaar 6 (ATPG, CDF, Centurion1, taka, AVSM, Kukrikhan)
AVSM 4 (Yarapolk, Tincow, Louis the Fat :heart:, Khazaar)
acin 2 (Beskar, A1 unit)
shlin 2 (Psychonaut, White Eyes)
Psychonaut 1 (shlin)
Subotan 1 (Jooray)
taka 1 (Seamus)
Tincow 1 (Chaotix
Beskar 1 (Reenk)
KukriKhan
10-15-2009, 06:01
Kukri: In the past, I've marked midnight end times as 00:01. I do see your point though, and will adapt the 11:59/23:59 endpoints from now on. :bow:
As always, you are The (accomodating) Man. :bow:
a completely inoffensive name
10-15-2009, 07:02
I agree with the arguments against Khazaar.
Vote: Khazaar
EDIT: Going to bed. Won't be back until after the vote is over.
Khazaar is probably going to be removed by the end of this round anyway. Why bother?
Good question, I´m not really bothered myself except for the fact that somebody just found a scapegoat to scurry away himself. Anyway in N1 I protected Beskar (on his request) with A1 (since he already said he worked with me). In N2 I protected Split on Beskars request. N3 I protected Beskar on his request. On N4 ATPG asked me to protect Split. On N5 ATPG requested me to protect Split again. On N6 our esteemed Captain asked me to protect Split again...
All of them were succsessful in terms of the protectee survived (meaning the protectiongroup worked), the fact that he was never attacked doesn´t matter. And now you really want to lynch me who was protecting on your orders for every single night? Either you have no clue or you need somebody to take the fall...
Double A
10-15-2009, 12:22
vote: Present
The other person who voted present was a...
Vote: Centurion1
Why not.
pevergreen
10-15-2009, 13:04
Well done town, well done.
You know, no matter which way this game went, it turns out well for me.
:laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
10-15-2009, 13:19
Khazaar is probably going to be removed by the end of this round anyway. Why bother?
Nope, if you saw, the host was going to remove him, but he decided to vote, which prevented that.
This is the only instance of him voting in the entire game, save for selecting the Captain. So he doesn't seem to care about catching the traitors, only saving his butt. If he's a townie, then he should have been more proactive.
Good question, I´m not really bothered myself except for the fact that somebody just found a scapegoat to scurry away himself. Anyway in N1 I protected Beskar (on his request) with A1 (since he already said he worked with me). In N2 I protected Split on Beskars request. N3 I protected Beskar on his request. On N4 ATPG asked me to protect Split. On N5 ATPG requested me to protect Split again. On N6 our esteemed Captain asked me to protect Split again...
All of them were succsessful in terms of the protectee survived (meaning the protectiongroup worked), the fact that he was never attacked doesn´t matter. And now you really want to lynch me who was protecting on your orders for every single night? Either you have no clue or you need somebody to take the fall...
The fact that they were never attacked means that you were free to do whatever you wanted that night, including not actually doing the protection. There's no voting pattern to analyze, there's no in-thread discussion to analyze, there's no way to verify your alibi, because your target was never attacked.
Out of everyone in the game, you seem the least concerned about killing mafia, and you also have nothing to back up your story which is concrete. As I mentioned already, CountArach and Yaseikhaan had the exact same alibi as you. Their targets were never attacked either.
As for having no clue, I prefer to vote for someone who would provide the maximum amount of "clue". Here, it seems you're desperate for survival. And you're an enigma; no way to verify your story short of attacking your protection group. And given the apathy you've shown towards finding suspects, I don't have much of a motivation to waste time doing that.
If you're a townie, then you died in the line of duty, narrowing down suspects so we can find the true killer. Most other players in the game have some sort of trail for their actions or data suggesting their innocence. Out of all the townies to die on a blind shot, you're the safest bet. And we lose no information in the process. If you're a mafia, it's time you died.
That's how I determine who I vote for. Others are very much the same in this regard. Do we vote for someone who has a solid alibi for their whereabouts during a Maven kill? No.... how about someone with a claimed power role that we can verify? No.... what about someone who was found to be protecting or investigating during those nights? No.... so what do you have left? The pool of people not claiming power roles, no solid proof they were protecting, and no data to otherwise suggest their innocence.
And of those, whoever has the weakest voting history and the weakest contributions to the discussion, if you have a preference.
Bottom line, you meet all the criteria for someone who I'd go after based on nothing but process of elimination. The mafia have to make a better show of their innocence than this, and in the process, give up information which only tightens the noose further. You've given up the least amount of information... that is why I choose you. It makes it seem like you have something to hide. And again, your methods are very similar to CountArach's hiding method.
There's reason behind all this. In most mafia games we lynch based on intuition or gut feeling, and because we have a lack of data, that's why we do it. All normal in a mafia game. I'm not saying I couldn't be persuaded to look at someone else, but I've been given no data by investigators suggesting someone else is guilty... I've been shown no argument which is better from an evidence-based standpoint. I see a lot of finger pointing and that's all. And so I am pointing fingers, as I'm supposed to do in a game like this. Perhaps if Khazaar had done more finger pointing....
This is the last post I can make prior to the deadline. ATPG's reasoning seems pretty sound, so it looks like Khazaar is for the chop.
Unvote Abstain; Vote Khazaar
Captain Blackadder
10-15-2009, 15:10
VOTE KHAZAAR
Whilst his regular system of play is to lurk he still needs to go for there is nothing worse then allowing lurkers to win the game.
Oh bladders you sly dog :laugh4:
Well Khazaar seems like a much better pick than Subotan. Sorry you just sound way to scummy and the case ATPGs makes seems sound.
So Unvote; Vote: Khazaar.
scotchedpommes
10-15-2009, 16:55
Vote: A Very Super Market
GeneralHankerchief
10-15-2009, 17:00
Voting closed.
Crazed Rabbit
10-15-2009, 17:01
Vote: A Very Super Market
That's a suspicious vote, with the time ending soon after and all. Why did you vote for AVSM?
CR
...Meh, I´ll just swim home :jarswim:...
GeneralHankerchief
10-15-2009, 17:39
Day 7
For the first time in a week, the sailors of the Presence were able to express an unfamiliar emotion to them: hope.
There had only been one kill last night, and it was done by the ultra-successful Four Horsemen vigilante group, removing quite possibly the last remaining enemy presence on board. So, as they were voting to purge the ship of any remaining threats, the sailors also made merry. They ate, they laughed, they sang shanteys, they drank. Okay, well, some things never changed. But they were all in a good mood.
All of them, that is, except for Khazaar, who was to be the final sacrifice to appease the Gods of the Sea for some unknown wrong the crew had done them. Khazaar, who had been mostly ignoring the entire process, preferring to concentrate on swabbing the decks, finally snapped to attention once somebody finally alerted him that he was in danger of walking the plank.
"Wait a minute, you've got this all wrong!" Khazaar pleaded to his mates. "I... I haven't done anything wrong! I be protectin' ye at night from all the dangers of the sea, both mythical and human! I never hurt a fly! Even... even during Charleston, I be stayin' aboard to guard the ship! I love this ship! I'd ne'er do anything to hurt it, and that be God's honest truth!"
"Aye, that may be so," said one crewman, "but ye not be doin' anything during the daytime."
"But... but I still be workin' to keep the ship clean!"
"Aye, but we be needin' records, Khazaar," said Quartermaster Askthepizzaguy, holding a scroll of parchment so long it reached from his arms to the ground, and even then it was folded several times. He took a long look, coughed, and read the scroll a minute, finally looking up. "Ye've got nothin', me boy. No record of who yer friends on board are, no potentially record-clearing votes... no damning evidence here."
"But... no evidence against me... doesn't that mean I'm innocent?" Khazaar stammered.
"Ordinarily, aye," said Askthepizzaguy. "But in this case-" he stopped mid-sentence, double-checking his massive scroll, and continued. "But in this case, it appears as if nobody else has any evidence against them either. Thus, off you go, boy! Enjoy what be left of yer life!" The crowd cheered and started to close in against Khazaar, but they were prematurely interrupted.
"Excuse me," said Captain Crazed Rabbit, "but I believe that organizin' the execution be *my* job. Pizzaguy, thank you for yer service, ye've been a great help to me, but ye've gotten too big for yer britches recently. We can't be havin' two captains aboard. Hence, TinCow be the new Quartermaster."
TinCow, trying to fake a look of surprise, stepped forward to join Rabbit and Louis.
"Right lads," said Rabbit, "We have an execution to do! Khazaar, any last words before ye join Davey Jones!"
"I'M INNOCENT!" Khazaar bawled, and then broke for below decks.
"Somebody stop him!" Rabbit called, but a half-dozen sailors were already on it, rushing behind him and bringing him back up a minute later. They were dragging Khazaar, who in turn was dragging his own personal collection of treasure.
"Ye lousy sea-dogs, I always wished nothin' but the best fer this ship, and ye go and do this to me?! Well, I'll have none of it. Me treasure be goin' with me to the Locker, and none o' ye bilge rats be gettin' any of it!" He somehow managed to break free of all the hands gripping him, and bolted straight for the plank, running off.
The last anybody saw of Khazaar was him in mid-air, lovingly cradling his bag of treasure, and hitting the water.
Day 7 tally:
Khazaar: 10 (ATPG, Centurion, taka, CDF, AVSM, Kukri, ACIN, Subotan, Blackadder, Joooray) :skull:
AVSM: 5 (Louis, TinCow, Khazaar, Yaro, SSNeo)
ACIN: 2 (Beskar, A1_unit)
Psychonaut: 2 (shlin, White_eyes)
Single votes: shlin (miotas), Beskar (Reenk), taka (Seamus), TinCow (Chaotix), Centurion (Psychonaut)
Abstained: 5 (CR, DiY, Split, CDF, Double A)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It is now Night 7. The phase will conclude Friday, October 16, at 15:00.
(Note: I will be in New Jersey for the weekend [as opposed to Washington, DC] and thus may not be around at the exact moment to end the phase. Thus, orders will be accepted until I close things off in the thread, though I'm still shooting for the 15:00 deadline.)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Attacked: Centurion1 (n1), LittleGrizzly (n1), taka (n2), Andres (n3), Askthepizzaguy (n4), Beskar (n5), SSNeoperestroika (n5)
Murdered: LittleGrizzly (n1), atheotes (n2), gibsonsg91921 (n2), Tratorix (n3), Iskander 3.1 (n3), Beefy187 (n3), scottishranger (n4), DisgruntledGoat (n4), Andres (n4), Diana Abnoba (n5), pevergren (n5), CountArach (n6)
Lynched: woad&fangs (d2), Sigurd (d3), Jolt (d4), ricera10 (d5), Sasaki Kojiro (d6), Khazaar (d7)
Committed suicide: Yaseikhaan (n6)
Removed from play: Xehh II, johnhughthom, YLC
Souls aboard (29):
a completely inoffensive name
A Very Super Market
A1 Unit
Askthepizzaguy
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Chaotix
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Death is Yonder
Double A
Joooray
KukriKhan
Lord Winter
Louis VI the Fat
miotas
Psychonaut
Reenk Roink
Seamus Fermanagh
shlin28
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
SSNeoperestroika
Subotan
taka
TinCow
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
What happened to my vote? :sad:
It is not Night 7. The phase will conclude Friday, October 16, at 15:00.
The above says it is not Night 7. Is that a spelling error, or are we waiting on the final write-up?
GeneralHankerchief
10-15-2009, 17:43
Whoops, thanks for the catch. Should say "now".
-edit- fixed the spelling error and Beskar's vote. :sweatdrop:
Oh, if anyone is curious about why Askthepizzaguy got demoted. He decided to give all the pro-town roles and all the town information in regards to protections and other things to the Mafia.
On that note, no one follow Askthepizzaguy's orders in any shape or form, also, if he gave you orders, contact the Captain (Crazed Rabbit) to ask him what you should do.
Crazed Rabbit
10-15-2009, 17:57
That is true, so don't listen to ATPG.
It is why he was removed. We can lynch him tomorrow.
CR
Oh, if anyone is curious about why Askthepizzaguy got demoted. He decided to give all the pro-town roles and all the town information in regards to protections and other things to the Mafia.
On that note, no one follow Askthepizzaguy's orders in any shape or form, also, if he gave you orders, contact the Captain (Crazed Rabbit) to ask him what you should do.
How did he manage that?:inquisitive: Oh wait! He knows who the Mafia is?
Crazed Rabbit
10-15-2009, 18:13
How did he manage that?:inquisitive: Oh wait! He knows who the Mafia is?
He talked with one of the dead ones.
CR
He talked with one of the dead ones.
CR
Who passed that information on.
Askthepizzaguy
10-15-2009, 18:40
Awww... yerr all a bunch of fraidy cats. You're afraid of the big bad Maven? He can't even wet himself when he's scared. You wanted to have people stop following my lead, well here's one way of doing that. And the Captain, et al, came across this information because I told them that. They were wondering why pevergreen knew so much and they were thinking that one of our investigators turned on us or something. My confession saved you a lot of trouble and perhaps an investigator's life. I'll take my lashes as I deserve them, but since the game is almost over, keep your eyes focused on the prize. I had been doing serious work for the town until last night when I was contemplating quitting the game. I saw an opportunity for fun, and I took it. Ya know... all those people who think I'm no fun and everything, wanted to show them a thing or two. Well it seems it doesn't matter anyway because the Brits are dead.
lol :laugh4: I told them last night that one of the watchstanders was vulnerable because some of you don't send in your orders. Well today that same watchstander was suspected of being the leak, and I stepped in to own up to my sins and perhaps save his life. Maybe the Brits dying made up my mind for me. I've atoned and I'll go back to swabbing the deck.
Crazed Rabbit
10-15-2009, 18:43
I knew before you confessed ATPG.
CR
Askthepizzaguy
10-15-2009, 18:45
Well you didn't tell me that. And I still told you. I know which side my bread is buttered on, even if I lost sight of that for a moment.
scotchedpommes
10-15-2009, 18:49
That's a suspicious vote, with the time ending soon after and all. Why did you vote for AVSM?
CRI don't see that it's suspicious in the slightest. It wasn't about to alter the result - if nothing else registered my continued desire to be rid of yet another murderer.
I don't see that it's suspicious in the slightest. It wasn't about to alter the result - if nothing else registered my continued desire to be rid of yet another murderer.
Despite the fact that this "murderer" (Along with the other three, who are all equally *guffaws* "guilty") has almost exclusively killed Maven/British?
Scummyscummyscummyscummyscummyscummyscummyscummyscummyscummy
Crazed Rabbit
10-15-2009, 19:02
That vigilante group has a very good record of offing our enemies, so I'm willing to cut them some slack.
CR
Tratorix
10-15-2009, 20:25
That vigilante group has a very good record of offing our enemies, so I'm willing to cut them some slack.
CR
Speaking of that vig group, why are we waiting till morning to kill ATPG?
Erm... ATPG turned traitor?
My faith... in my fellow pirates... is... shattered :bigcry:
*Drinks more rum in sad contemplation*
Everybody get in a vig group quick!:laugh4::smash:
Sasaki Kojiro
10-15-2009, 20:51
Speaking of that vig group, why are we waiting till morning to kill ATPG?
I say we vig him--turning names over out of spite because of an argument isn't cool.
Crazed Rabbit
10-15-2009, 20:52
ATPG will be handled, I assure you all.
You wouldn't want to go and spoil my plans, would you now? I guarantee it'll be worth the wait.
CR
Louis VI the Fat
10-15-2009, 20:58
N1
Centurion - Single Killer, fail
Grizzly - 5 vig group, succes
N2
Taka - 2 men, F, no protection
Atheotes - 2 men, S
Gibson - 4 men, S (gibson=maven)
1 English convert
D3 - Sigurd Lynch
N3
Tratorix - 1M, 'Pirate Tale', S
Andres - 4M, F, no protection
Iskander - 4M, S
Beefy - 2M, S
[Grizzly = loyal]
N4
ATPG - 4M, F, protection
Scottishranger - 4M, Horsemen, S (scot=English)
DisgruntledGoat - 1M, 'Pirate Tale', S
Andres - 1M, Bessy, S
1 English convert
[Gibson = maven]
N5
Beskar - 1M, 'Pirate Tale', Fail because of protection group
SSNeo - 1M, F, no prot.
Diana - 4M, Horsemen, S
Pevergreen - 1M, Bessy, S
[Sigurd = maven
Beefy187, Tratorix, Iskander = loyal]
N6
CA - 4M, Horsemen, S
'khaan - 'suicide'
[Scottishranger = English
DisgruntledGoat, Andres, Jolt = loyal]
Yaropolk
10-15-2009, 21:01
2 attacks on Grizzly on N1 if i'm not mistaken.
For the record, Gibson was brung unto death by the Horsemen.
Louis VI the Fat
10-15-2009, 21:13
Meh.
When Pizza is a goody-two shoes who leads the town to victory, people say they don't want to play with him.
When Pizza doesn't want to run the town every game anymore, people want to vig him.
Pizza plays a mafia game. Players flock to him. Pizza says he doesn't want to, but wants to roleplay. People urge him to organize nonetheless. Pizza gives in. Pizza is visciously attacked over it. Pizza is asked by half the town to step down again. Pizza gives in, goes back to roleplaying. Half the town now wants him dead for that.
The guy can't win.
Ah well, next game, he'll be a 'free man' again, instead of being Pizza.
Louis VI the Fat
10-15-2009, 21:16
For the record, Gibson was brung unto death by the Horsemen.That would be crucial for them indeed.
Two things:
- has that group changed since the attack on Gibson? Has there been a change in personnel that is?
- I don't see the 'Horsemen' sign in the attack on Gibson:
gibsonsg91921 was sitting above deck, drinking some rum quietly. He couldn't sleep, so he figured that a healthy dose of alcohol would do the trick. Of course, it was getting harder and harder to do so. Being a pirate, gibson had achieved a very high tolerance for the substance over the years, so as a result he was rather drunk, but not completely gone to the point where he was about to pass out.
Four men approached him, cutlasses drawn. They did not mince words. Checking to see that his vision was not starting to blur and there were, in fact, four men approaching him, gibson took another swig of his bottle. "What's this all about, eh?" he slurred, with the men only drawing closer to him in response.
Taking one final swig of his rum, gibson finally drew his own cutlass in response and lunged at his attackers. He fought with fantastic bravery, although not particularly much skill, frequently swinging wildly at the air. Eventually, numbers and sobriety took their toll and gibson passed on. He didn't feel a thing.
White_eyes:D
10-15-2009, 21:45
"You have forgotten your place ATPG. In taking this Maven as your apprentice....you have betrayed town...NOW you will destroy him, or town will kill you BOTH (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP94b9a-qB8)"
I see you have never played a Mafia game with ATPG as Mafia, Louis....why did you think town was so eager to get him on there side....because he often plays the neutral guy until he can sign over to the other side:shrug:
He has won "You can't win" by the way:bounce:
:laugh4:
Called it from the beginning. ATPG and I are fated to be on opposing sides in any game we play; I knew something was up when he was proven innocent. Figures he'd find a way to get himself over to the other side.
pevergreen
10-15-2009, 23:25
:laugh4:
I'm going to have to explain myself after this game.
I think I know whats happening tonight.
I don't want to ruin it though!
Have fun giving the order CR, and wiping the last maven off.
:beam:
Double A
10-15-2009, 23:26
Right time to explain my inactivity...
I'm in my high school's production of Amadeus, so I can't check out this site every day. Rehearsals are almost every day till 6, and starting next week till 7. And there are several Fridays and Saturdays where I have to come in.
pevergreen
10-15-2009, 23:53
Right time to explain my inactivity...
I'm in my high school's production of Amadeus, so I can't check out this site every day. Rehearsals are almost every day till 6, and starting next week till 7. And there are several Fridays and Saturdays where I have to come in.
I wouldn't be worrying too much. Town is killing last anti-town player tonight.
Unless...
Mavergreen what are you trying to say? ATPG will be taken care of (so says CR) but I don't believe that will be it. I think we'll have to do something about that blunderbuss guy.
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 00:12
:laugh4:
Called it from the beginning. ATPG and I are fated to be on opposing sides in any game we play; I knew something was up when he was proven innocent. Figures he'd find a way to get himself over to the other side.
And yet, you're still wrong, Chaotix. Remember, I was townie when I became QM. I was therefore townie the entire time. I'm still townie now. Think Sasaki in Capo III. That's all. I just totally ripped him off. And now he says it's not cool. Hilarious! :laugh4:
PS- There's no one left, really, to even assist in this manner. If I was going to do this I should have done it a couple rounds ago when it might have made a difference. Perhaps back when TinCow was puzzled as to why I DIDN'T do this, back when I asked to be lynched. Then it would have made more sense.
:juggle2:
Besides, ye yellow landlubbers, you can still protect and cover your butts! What are you so afraid of? Mafia was aware of just about everything most of Capo and it still didn't defeat the testudo. Relax. Chill. Have an ale. Don't be an hero.
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 00:22
"You have forgotten your place ATPG. In taking this Maven as your apprentice....you have betrayed town...NOW you will destroy him, or town will kill you BOTH (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP94b9a-qB8)"
Lynching Khazaar was an honest attempt at that. :shrug:
Only the Brits really seemed to have a chance, and even that was a long shot versus the group we assembled. Tossing them a bone for sentimental reasons and to make the game fairer is hardly the worst crime ever. Nothing splitpersonality didn't do in the previous game we played. He betrayed the town and yet turned his back on his new friends as well.
I see you have never played a Mafia game with ATPG as Mafia, Louis....why did you think town was so eager to get him on there side....because he often plays the neutral guy until he can sign over to the other side:shrug:
Meh, I disagree. I usually play as pro-town as possible. If the mafia can forcibly convert me, fine. But even in this game I did what I could to deny them such a prize.
He has won "You can't win" by the way:bounce:
I still think what I did in socially unacceptable mini mafia, although not victorious, was even better. Hi I'm Askthepizzaguy the psychopath. Oh, but I'm on your side... trust me... :wink:
pevergreen
10-16-2009, 00:28
I like how I still get a victory for this.
GeneralHankerchief
10-16-2009, 00:45
I'd just like to point out that my inbox has reached 1,000 PMs sent and received. I emptied it out just prior to sending out all of the initial role PMs, and I'd estimate that 95-98% of traffic has to do with this game. Well done, everybody! :applause:
Double A
10-16-2009, 00:46
I feel special!
Splitpersonality
10-16-2009, 00:54
I can only hope I was the 1000th :D
pevergreen
10-16-2009, 00:59
Quick! Spam host so ATPG can't get his escape orders in! He'll get away and maven will win!
GeneralHankerchief
10-16-2009, 01:02
Quick! Spam host so ATPG can't get his escape orders in! He'll get away and maven will win!
That tactic worked well when my inbox limit was 40. Not so much when it's 3,000. :laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 01:02
Quick! Spam host so ATPG can't get his escape orders in! He'll get away and maven will win!
I'm not going anywhere. :juggle2:
Look I already did bad enough listening to you pevergreen. I admitted it and I'll accept whatever punishment I get. But I'm not going to run away, that's the coward's way out. I'll just be sleeping unless I am needed for protections, which I doubt.
I tthink you'll need protection!:laugh4:
pevergreen
10-16-2009, 01:07
I tthink you'll need protection!:laugh4:
Oooooh!
:laugh4:
Why was listening to me bad? I'm the exact same as you. :beam:
Reenk Roink
10-16-2009, 01:32
Just a couple of meta-game issues to avoid the usual Pirate spam that goes on at night. :rolleyes:
I don't think protown groups are a severely imbalancing feature at all. Most protown groups fail for a reason, the few successful ones succeed for unrelated issues. Closely analyze Capo III. The pro town group seemed strong, and was one of the better ones because of a ton of cooperation from the separate townie bases that merged mid game, but again, it was incredibly infiltrated by the Mafia. The most important investigator was himself Mafia aligned and not detected or removed except by EXTREMELY fortunate circumstances for the town that characterized the town's game. Heck, had some of the Mafia not revealed their families early on, that alone would probably be enough to change the tide for a Mafia victory, despite all the protown efforts. In that game, the Mafia outplayed the town especially in the later stages of the game, but they were too weakened because of early blabbing as well as some missed orders and just unfortunate circumstances. They got no breaks while the town got a ton and lost, even though I'd say they generally played better. About the only place the town groups had a better thing in was organization (due to Atpg who is probably the best organizer Mafia at the org has seen due to his sheer will).
Pro town groups are generally going to suffer from being infiltrated because it is way too hard to keep track of everyone. Too little investigations for too many people and possibilities. Furthermore, in a protown group the leader holds way too much influence for my liking (unless its led by me where then it is absolutely ideal) and his own recommendations for lynches while perhaps guided by good intentions, will turn out to be much worse than everyone discussing the info and coming to a group conclusion, where a different viewpoint from that of the leader's may prevail. This again is clearly visible in the history of protown groups.
One thing that may need slight balancing is the amount of protown roles that come in a game with townies who can do stuff at night. Since townies themselves have more power than just to vote, the protown roles would probably be better served being nerfed a bit.
Secondly, perhaps a failure system should be implemented for protown groups. I think GH has done that here, where a protection by a doctor or group is only good against one kill attempt. In Capo there were two attacks simultaneously that failed due to one protection group.
Lastly and most importantly to my heart, when I play, my gut feeling is FAR superior criteria to my (or other people's) analysis in making a choice of who is guilty or not. Only a detective result or a confession can really top it, maybe a REALLY well done case too. Any kind of 'rational' analysis relies on too many premises most of which are unfounded or based on poor mafia cliches, and really have no value. A gut feeling (which I nuance differently from straight up intuition which is more like just reading the list of players and from that feeling someone is guilty) based on posts and just a general feeling has always served me well and is by far the most successful method in me finding Mafia. :2thumbsup:
Sasaki's play as a townie who helped Mafia in Capo is perfectly understandable and legitimate. In Capo townies have a choice of what to do (are even encouraged to go bad?).
In Pirate Ship, it is pretty clear choice has nothing to do with it (although it isn't explicitly mentioned in the rules so I can perfectly well understand the decisions of people who thought they could choose to help Mafia, especially with this game being only comparable to Capo).
For that reason, I don't understand the resentment against Atpg. Be mad at the people who reveal to him rather than him (I think most people actually do this but just saying). I think part of the reason he went off and leaked info to the Maven was just some metagame tactic to stop that action.
Now then let's move on and enjoy this game. I am getting tired of reading the (out of game) bickering (in game bickering is :2thumbsup:) and also the pirate 'humor' but that's at least a matter of taste.
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 01:49
Nice post Reenk...agree with everything but you being a townie organizer:tongue:
I am just messing around with ATPG...I can see why he did it....but there was no need since the Mafia are done for anyway..(Unless, there is a twist:yes:)
I always notice, that those closest to you die all the time Reenk....you have some bad luck there:shame:
Won some pretty big victories because of it though....:smash:
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 02:04
As I may mention later-
If the 2 mafias started with 5 apiece and could only kill once regardless of size, same recruitment ability, and no gold restriction on the mavens, perhaps a little more balanced. However, this is a fairly unique setup, and let's pretend the town didn't get lucky early and the mavens came into some gold. It could have been a balanced game with the town in trouble. It just seemed like the british and the mavens needed to do some work before they could get up to five apiece; the british did but took casualties in the process and the mavens never did. Just bad luck really.
10 mafia versus 40 town might seem unbalanced but if half hated the other, then it is balanced. The mafia families can cause damage against each other.
If there were still mafia around to speak of, then... well...
but there was no need
then I might have been helping an ailing family. Too little, too late. Terminally ill, can't save em.
I think part of the reason he went off and leaked info to the Maven was just some metagame tactic to stop that action.
Partly.
I seriously wanted to illustrate that in a game like this where I have no say over whether I am recruited, passing a corruptible townie all that info was super dangerous. And also prove that I am capable of having fun.
pevergreen
10-16-2009, 02:06
What I enjoy is that by leaking that infomation, you actually caused the destruction of the british.
What you did with evil intent, ended up destroying anti-town.
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 02:09
What I enjoy is that by leaking that infomation, you actually caused the destruction of the british.
What you did with evil intent, ended up destroying anti-town.
Awesome. :laugh4:
That's just icing on the cake man. My only question is.... how? How does more information cause destruction? I wasn't in control of the four horsemen.
pevergreen
10-16-2009, 02:10
Oh, but having them find out what happened meant they changed their plans dramatically.
I laughed when I read how. They would have been better off if you never leaked anything.
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 02:11
I can't wait for the post-game so you can show me how my advice was poisoned. That's a very interesting twist.
Uh... uh... yeah that was my plan all along, see....
pevergreen
10-16-2009, 02:24
English were going to come out in force, but everything they had planned to do was changed. Oh it was beautiful when I read it last night.
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 02:26
intentionally killed mafia... plus unintentionally killed mafia.
That still counts, adding it to my scoreboard. :beam:
a completely inoffensive name
10-16-2009, 03:08
Today I am happy because Tosh.0 is on today.
English were going to come out in force, but everything they had planned to do was changed. Oh it was beautiful when I read it last night.
How do you know so much?:inquisitive:
a completely inoffensive name
10-16-2009, 03:47
How do you know so much?:inquisitive:
I think the real question is do you know much I get hungry for some AI steak sauce every time I read your name?
pevergreen
10-16-2009, 03:51
You know, right now I probably know the most in the game. :laugh4:
I'm not using it though.
Be quiet! You're dead, stop spoiling the game.
pevergreen
10-16-2009, 04:14
I havent talked to you yet.
Wanna start? :evilgrin:
Nothing beats all the fools falling for the Mafia-gold trail trick.
"You see a trail of coins to see a pot of gold, it looks unaccounted for. Give up your protection/night orders to loot it?"
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 09:31
90% of the crew fell for it.....what's another 10%??:laugh4:
Death is yonder
10-16-2009, 09:52
Nothing beats all the fools falling for the Mafia-gold trail trick.
"You see a trail of coins to see a pot of gold, it looks unaccounted for. Give up your protection/night orders to loot it?"
Why haven't I heard of this booty! :furious3:
Why haven't I heard of this booty! :furious3:
Me neither. What is it?
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 11:12
Like moths to a flame.
I'm pretty sure something bad will happen if you try to take that gold.
Maybe the Four Horsemen will exact vengenance upon thee.
:crowngrin:
Death is yonder
10-16-2009, 12:22
B-b-but! Its treasure!
On a more serious note, is it explicitly a mafia thing? As in like, the way it has been posed is as if its a very widespread thing to make you forgo your otherwise important night actions.
I'm getting flashbacks to my parasite notes :juggle2:
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 12:28
Maybe the Four Horsemen will exact vengenance upon thee.
:crowngrin:
:rolleyes:
You know, if you guys kill me, I still win with the town. The worst sort of justice you could possibly inflict would be to let me get converted and then die with the mafia. I'd also remind you that the Maven is just trying to get as much gold as possible and then abandon ship; your efforts should be directed at preventing that with all of your resources, vigilante actions and lynches alike.
Killing me out of spite is not only pointless, it's really, really, dumbfoundingly poor play by a town that was otherwise doing very well. You want to let them sneak away, this is the way to shoot us in the foot.
Oh no, I wasn't threatening to kill you, ATPG. You are much too crunchy and delicious with divine tomatoes and mozzarella and anchovies and olives and capers and-
*Shakes head*
I was referring to your quote
I'm pretty sure something bad will happen if you try to take that gold.
I.e. The something bad being that we will visit you in the night and decapitate you.
Louis VI the Fat
10-16-2009, 13:23
Maybe the Four Horsemen will exact vengenance upon thee.:charge::charge::charge::charge:
Going over the list, it would appear the horsemen do not contain the maven indeed. Barring any hidden conversions of course. Me, I'm looking elsewhere.
Pizza - if you promise to leave me all of your gold in your will, I will not attack you! I SWEAR!!1! :beam:
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 13:29
@Subotan-
Oh ok. It was just that comment combined with the "we'll lynch him tomorrow" that made me shake my head incredulously. I know we have rational, intelligent people here who can come up with about ten different reasons why that could actually help the final maven escape with all his gold, which gives the mafia one final "expletive you" to the town and a moral victory for them too.
As an able seaman, my death means virtually nothing to me. It's a team loss that would really hurt me, and if the maven escapes it would be an embarrassment. It would be the worst sort of ending for all of us: I try to help the mafia and it ends up killing half of them; town tries to kill me in retaliation and the mafia gets away. I know there's a word that describes it: Irony.
I can appreciate irony. So this will be my final protest on the matter. If a chain of events happens that results in my losing the game, ironically, with the town, because I tried to help the mafia, and it hurt them, but then the town hurt me in retaliation, and it ended up hurting them... well that's just poetic. You can't argue with that kind of cosmic justice.
@Louis-
As for wills: No. If you guys kill me, why would I leave you any of my money? Let's get real here. I earned my money, you earned yours. I'll pay you money not to lynch me, for both selfish and town-related reasons. That's about it.
I'll pay you money not to lynch me, for both selfish and town-related reasons.
If there's no conversion seen in tonight's write-up, I'll take that money. :yes:
Shiver My Timbers, shiver My Soul
Yo Ho He Ho
There are men whos hearts as black as coal
And they sailed there ship across the ocean blue
A Blood thirsty captain and a cut throat crew.
Its a darker tale as was ever told
Of a lust for treasure and a love of gold...
Shiver My Timbers, Shiver my sides
Yo ho he ho
There are hungers as strong as the winds and tides
Yo ho he ho
And those bucaneers drowned there sins in rum,
The devil himself would have to call em scum!
Every man on board would have killed his mate for a bag of ginnys or a piece of eight, a piece of eight, a piece of eight…
*MUAHAHHAHA*
Louis VI the Fat
10-16-2009, 14:26
@Louis-
As for wills: No. If you guys kill me, why would I leave you any of my money? Let's get real here. I earned my money, you earned yours. I'll pay you money not to lynch me, for both selfish and town-related reasons. That's about it.'tis a joke! ('You put me in your will, and I will not kill you' - get it? :beam:)
But I promise I'll join the protection group on you if you pay me ten gold right now! :yes:
Quickly lad!
@Louis-
As for wills: No. If you guys kill me, why would I leave you any of my money? Let's get real here. I earned my money, you earned yours. I'll pay you money not to lynch me, for both selfish and town-related reasons. That's about it.
Besides, wouldn't promising Louis all your money in the event of your death only guarantee your demise?
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 14:41
But I promise I'll join the protection group on you if you pay me ten gold right now! :yes:
Quickly lad!I'm sure it's a joke, but: Don't waste protections on me. The mafia isn't going to waste their kill on me, especially when I'm being threatened with a lynch. Besides if the mafia kills me it saves you the trouble. And I win with the town. Still no real threat to me.
And if you guys are foolish enough to kill me then it serves you right when the maven gets away.
Besides, wouldn't promising Louis all your money in the event of your death only guarantee your demise?
exactamundo.
@ Sigurd;
Good to have you back, my friend. :bow:
B-b-but! Its treasure!
On a more serious note, is it explicitly a mafia thing? As in like, the way it has been posed is as if its a very widespread thing to make you forgo your otherwise important night actions.
I'm getting flashbacks to my parasite notes :juggle2:
It's like that, a certain person (who I can't really reveal) has fallen for it 3 times! :wall:
He pm'd the officers going "Hai guys, I won't be investigating tonight again, there is a rare opportunity for me to... erm... 4 horsemen thingie, anyway, I am not going to investigate".
I mean really, a Watchstander doesn't even need gold for a victory condition. Yet he has accepted a bribe of like a couple of coins not to act.
What a fool.
It's like that, a certain person (who I can't really reveal) has fallen for it 3 times! :wall:
He pm'd the officers going "Hai guys, I won't be investigating tonight again, there is a rare opportunity for me to... erm... 4 horsemen thingie, anyway, I am not going to investigate".
I mean really, a Watchstander doesn't even need gold for a victory condition. Yet he has accepted a bribe of like a couple of coins not to act.
What a fool.
Wait... what? A watchstander has taken mafia gold instead of investigating THREE TIMES? That's half the game so far. How positive are we that GH didn't make one of the watchstanders a mafia mole?
Louis VI the Fat
10-16-2009, 18:13
Ah, so that's what's up. I was thinking about a conversion.
And who has been sending these 'pot of gold' PM's?
Sasaki Kojiro
10-16-2009, 18:16
Killing me out of spite is not only pointless, it's really, really, dumbfoundingly poor play by a town that was otherwise doing very well. You want to let them sneak away, this is the way to shoot us in the foot.
So if vig killing you is "dumbfoundingly poor play" then what is handing over the names of the power roles in a game where you can't choose to switch sides? You can't have your pizza and eat it too :no:
Louis VI the Fat
10-16-2009, 18:33
So if vig killing you is "dumbfoundingly poor play" then what is handing over the names of the power roles in a game where you can't choose to switch sides? You can't have your pizza and eat it too :no:Imagine being a 'corruptible' town power role and you get converted to the losing side because of this...
Maybe Pizza revealed to lessen the chance of himself being converted? His information was worth a conversion yesterday, but not anymore so.
Askthepizzaguy can be converted by the Maven. Since he already leaked it..
Actually, Maven guy, convert ATPG, so he will lose the game as a Mafia, that would really hurt his ego. :beam:
(It's funny that ATPG leaked it to the British, especially as they can't convert him.)
GeneralHankerchief
10-16-2009, 20:01
Night 7 has ended, no more orders will be accepted.
This one will be... complicated. I'll process these and post the write-up as fast as I can, but it may take a while. Please be patient. :bow:
Crazed Rabbit
10-16-2009, 20:04
:evil:
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 20:10
So if vig killing you is "dumbfoundingly poor play" then what is handing over the names of the power roles in a game where you can't choose to switch sides? You can't have your pizza and eat it too
What is it?
It's a way of introducing a little anarchy into the situation. For that all-elusive thing we call "fun". That thing which I'm accused of not knowing how to have. Ever since then I've been having a blast. If the town can't take a little bloody nose, even while it is on its way to certain victory, then they don't deserve to win, but they will win. And I will have lost nothing and gained something.
I had my fun. And if catching the last of the mafia is fun, then do so. If punishing me for having a little bit of fun is your priority, then do so. It's all the same to me. But from the standpoint of winning the game, my death isn't part of the plan. The only way it is part of the plan is for the sake of spite. Spite doesn't win games. Spite isn't even that much fun. And spite can come back and hit you where it hurts. Especially in this situation where a mafia can obtain victory without firing a single bullet or slicing off one person's head. I'd be checking those little boats and seeing who tries to flee with all his cash.
:laugh4:
so he will lose the game as a Mafia, that would really hurt his ego
Ah, someone with a sense of fun. Now we're talking. Let's see if the mafia also has a sense of fun.
Crazed Rabbit
10-16-2009, 20:15
What is it?
It's a way of introducing a little anarchy into the situation. For that all-elusive thing we call "fun". That thing which I'm accused of not knowing how to have. Ever since then I've been having a blast. If the town can't take a little bloody nose, even while it is on its way to certain victory, then they don't deserve to win, but they will win. And I will have lost nothing and gained something.
I had my fun. And if catching the last of the mafia is fun, then do so. If punishing me for having a little bit of fun is your priority, then do so. It's all the same to me. But from the standpoint of winning the game, my death isn't part of the plan.
Some here might think it quite fun.
The only way it is part of the plan is for the sake of spite. Spite doesn't win games. Spite isn't even that much fun. And spite can come back and hit you where it hurts. Especially in this situation where a mafia can obtain victory without firing a single bullet or slicing off one person's head. I'd be checking those little boats and seeing who tries to flee with all his cash.
Don't be ridiculous. It is greatly in the interests of the town to see you punished, because you betrayed the town. A harsh punishment discourages other traitors.
CR
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 20:35
Some here might think it quite fun.
Don't be ridiculous. It is greatly in the interests of the town to see you punished, because you betrayed the town. A harsh punishment discourages other traitors.
CR
I agree with the Crazed Rabbit on both points:pirate:
I hate to say it Beskar....but I think some people accepted that gold offer....:juggle2:(I almost did)
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 20:36
I agree with the Crazed Rabbit on both points:pirate:
I hate to say it Beskar....but I think some people accepted that gold offer....:juggle2:(I almost did)
Is that why you were disinterested in doing protections on night three, White_Eyes?
It is starting to make sense now. How much did you get, and don't tell me you "almost" took the money. :laugh4:
Cultured Drizzt fan
10-16-2009, 20:37
erm. why would accepting the gold be bad. :sweatdrop: You know, just so I understand why some people did it.......
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 20:44
They too have sent three agents on board the ship who can work and try to get some Presence crewmen to defect to their side. However, they, unlike the British, cannot offer Letters of Marque, and thus must tempt their targets with gold.
That would be the reason:no:
And no ATPG....I was investigated and seen doing nothing during Night 4-5? I am not a traitor like you....*looks away in disgust*:mean:
Cultured Drizzt fan
10-16-2009, 20:45
That does not make any sense however...... If that is true then the people should not have a choice in the matter.
Crazed Rabbit
10-16-2009, 20:46
Is that why you were disinterested in doing protections on night three, White_Eyes?
It is starting to make sense now. How much did you get, and don't tell me you "almost" took the money. :laugh4:
Don't be askin' any questions here, ye scurvy bilge rat.
CR
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 20:48
Don't be askin' any questions here, ye scurvy bilge rat.
CR
Yes sir captain sir.
That does not make any sense however...... If that is true then the people should not have a choice in the matter.
You don't. :laugh4:
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 20:51
That does not make any sense however...... If that is true then the people should not have a choice in the matter.
Mad that you fell for it...??:bounce:
We all were in parasite, join the club~:mecry:
Tratorix
10-16-2009, 20:53
Mad that you fell for it...??:bounce:
We all were in parasite, join the club~:mecry:
Ugh, don't bring that up. Three seperate people, really? :furious3:
Wait, I was the only one who turned it down?
I feel dirty inside.
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 20:56
I think the key word in it was "Tempt" that meant you had a free choice in the matter....no one twisted your arm or told you, "You will be Maven" but it was still there choice:shrug:
Edit:I get the feeling CR is behind this....:grin2:
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 21:01
There are men whos hearts as black as coal
And those bucaneers drowned there sins in rum,
The devil himself would have to call em scum!
Every man on board would have killed his mate for a bag of ginnys or a piece of eight, a piece of eight, a piece of eight…
I think Sigurd gave us a clue here....sad that most people did not heed it...:shame:
I am thinking everyone got one now:laugh4:
People did not heed the warnings. :no:
Yaropolk
10-16-2009, 21:18
I don't know who your offer was from, but mine came from the host himself.
Yeah, GH would obviously send it from himself, you wouldn't recieve it from the Mafia directly.
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 21:25
Parasite worked the same way, it was sent by the host...and when you look at it....some of it doesn't match what GH would say...:laugh4:
I mean what are the odds everyone would find a "Chest full of gold" unaccounted for, on a ship out at sea?:clown:
GeneralHankerchief
10-16-2009, 22:45
Night 7
Psychonaut awake and alert. His eyes flicked around the ship, eager for any signs of movement. Nothing. He grinned. He couldn't believe that nobody else saw what he saw. How it was all just *there*, his for the taking. This was money.
He crept above decks, waiting to go head into a secluded, seldom-used cabin aboard the Presence. His eyes flicked around once more, side to side, seeing nothing. Excellent. It was all his. All of it. He was going to be rich. Salivating, he approached the door, put a hand on it...
...and felt a hand on his shoulder. Turning around wildly, he saw a familiar figure standing behind him, sword in his other hand. He was looking at Psychonaut with something akin to amused disgust. "Just a tip for the future," the figure said, raising his sword, "but when you look around for people moving... make sure you check behind you as well."
Psychonaut stared, seemingly looking through his attacker, in shock. That glimmer of gold, the promise of what lay behind the door, seemed to go out. "Yes, it does end this way," the attacker said, raising his sword. Instead of bringing it down on Psychonaut, though, he instead dropped it and went down to his peg leg, unscrewing it. Psychnaut, horrified, tried to break away, but his attacker's grip was too strong and he was forced to watch the unscrewing. Eventually it was complete, and the attacker held the peg leg in his other hand.
"Hold still now," the attacker said, and proceeded to club Psychonaut over the head repeatedly. Eventually, he slumped to the ground, dead, his lifeless eyes facing the empty space between the bottom of the door and the floor. Ironically, were he still alive, he would have had the perfect view of all the promise that the room on the other side of the door offered.
Once again, Beskar was up late at night, being entertained by the same storyteller as before. His tales were definitely starting to get old, more so tonight because Beskar had somewhere to be. He kept trying to interrupt his friend, but the friend would have none of it as he kept spinning his tales. Eventually Beskar realized that he would just have to sit through it. Rudeness on this tight of a living space made for an ugly ship.
"These be interestin' times," the friend said, and inside, Beskar groaned. He was starting another new story. "Reminds me o' the ancient tales of Homer and the like," the friend continued. "Tell me Beskar, be ye familiar with Homer?" Beskar shook his head.
"Well, Homer was all about the ancient Greeks of the times before Christ. And his biggest story - and this actually happened, matey, which makes it all the more interestin' - was the tale of the Trojan War. How the war started was not important, but eventually the Greeks got so mad at the Trojans that they culled a fleet together and sailed across the sea to the great city of Troy, where they laid siege to it and fought the greatest war ever fought for ten years."
This tale sounded vaguely familiar to Beskar, but he said nothing. Perhaps this storyteller was running out of material and had told it in the past. Either way, he kept silent. "And now matter how hard they tried, the greatest army assembled simply could not breach the walls of Troy, for they were simply too thick and the Trojan defenders too hardy. The Greeks though, they tried *everything*. Challenging the Trojan champion to single combat, head-on attacks, you name a military strategem, they tried it. Eventually, after ten years, they were ready to give up and head home. But the Greeks, see, they this one wily general... now I be forgettin' his name..."
"Odysseus," Beskar mumbled absentmindedly.
"Aye, Odysseus, or Ulysses, as the Romans called him. Anyway, Odysseus was a wily general, and he had a plan. He knew the Greeks were about to give up. He also knew the Trojans knew they were about to give up, for the greatest Greek champion Achilles had just been shot dead with an arrow. Therefore, he proposed they take advantage of the Trojan feelings and create an elaborate deception." He paused, looking around, as if searching for something specific on the ship. After a while, he turned back.
"One day, the Trojans woke up to find a curious sight. The Greek army was gone, and in their place was a giant, wooden horse; a peace offering from the Greeks. Overjoyed, the Trojans brought the horse into the city, past the insurmountable walls, not heeding the warnings of some. They partied all night, but eventually tiredness overcame them and they went to sleep. Then, finally, once the city was quiet, the many Greek soldiers hidden inside the horse opened it up, climbed down, and burned the city to the ground. They had finally breached the walls, and the Trojans paid dearly for their lack of foresight."
"So what's the moral of this one?" Beskar said, finally showing some interest. "If something looks too good to be true, it probably is?"
"Precisely," said his attacker, drawing a sword, but Beskar had already drawn his as well and was joined by a lone protector with a cutlass, who had seemingly appeared out of nowhere.
"Ooh," said the attacker, mockingly, "two on one, eh? Now that be fightin' like a proper dirty pirate would do. Unfortunately for ye, I be bringin' backup of me own." Right on cue, a fourth figure charged from the side, tackling Beskar's protector out of the way. "En garde!" the fourth man yelled while busy punching the protector in the mouth, and the double duel began.
Beskar was holding his own against the storyteller for a while, the two of them crisscrossing the Presence while crossing blades. However, the other duel was another story. The second attacker was clearly a skilled swordsman, flourishing his rapier and easily outmaneuvering his opponent. Finally striking him down, the rapier-wielder looked down for a minute before speaking.
"I should probably end ye now," he said, "but ye're not worth it. Do not get in me path again, matey, fer yer own sake." The he ran off to the site of the other duel, first cornering Beskar with his partner and then disarming them. Beskar, kneeling down, started praying, eventually looking up at his two attackers.
"Make it quick," he said emotionlessly.
"Aye, mate, ye've already been subjected to me stories now, so I'll be happy to oblige." The two attackers, one with a cutlass and the other with a rapier, together ended Beskar's life.
While all of this was going on, all of the participants were too engrossed in their duels to pay attention to SSNeoperestroika, who was busy lowering one of the Presence's dinghies into the water and then lowering himself into it with his bag of treasure.
Taking one final look around, SSNeo took a swig of a bottle of rum and then paddled away into the night. "It's been great, but if tonight is indication it be too dangerous for me to stay here any longer." He continued paddling on, not looking back.
Chaotix too, was trying for the door. Not concerned with looking around, his strategy instead was to make his way as quickly as possible to the door, get what lied inside, and then make his way back below decks before anyone had the chance to know what happened. He was successful at this, crossing the ship in record time, but stopped abruptly when he saw Psychonaut's beaten, bloody corpse at the foot of the door.
"Blessed Mary, Mother of God," Chaotix said to himself, unable to stop himself from uttering the words out loud. He further broke his own rule when a hand gripped his shoulder from behind, causing him to emit a wordless cry, not to mention soil himself from fright at the sight of a man with very few, yellow teeth, and unearthly glowing eyes.
"Ye have no business invoking the name o' the Lord or the Virgin Mary, traitor," said the man.
"I... I..." Chaotix stammered, unable to get anything further out. He took a very large gulp, and finally continued anew. "Who... why... what do ye want to do with me?"
"To send you to the place where ye belong," the figure said, raising his blunderbuss with his other hand, pointing it directly at Chaotix's eye. To Chaotix, the sight of Bess's nozzle seemed as dark as the end of an endless tunnel, only to find out that there was no exit on this side. Meanwhile, the figure continued. "To send you to Judecca, to Cocytus. Ye think the conditions on this ship are bad, get back to me once ye've spent an hour where ye're going."
"And..." Chaotix managed to get out, "w-w-where's t-that?"
"Hell," the figure said, and set Bess alight once more. Chaotix dropped right alongside Psychonaut.
Askthepizzaguy was out above deck, taking a midnight stroll. He needed to get some air, after being removed from his Quartermaster position and viciously attacked by the crew before they all headed off to bed. He needed to simply watch the sea, collect his thoughts... and maybe see what was behind that door and get it for himself.
He slowly made his way over to there, taking his time, being halfway there when noticing another figure walking beside him.
"Hello, Pizzaguy," said Captain Crazed Rabbit, very obviously holding a pistol. "What be yer business above deck, this time o'night?
"Just takin' in some air," Pizza said, trying to be nonchalant about it. Inside though, he was groaning. No way he was going to let Rabbit in on the secret. Thus, he led the Captain on a walk all around the ship, deliberately avoiding the door though. Eventually, he ran out of conversation though, and an awkward silence ensued for two very long minutes before Rabbit finally broke it.
"Well," he said, "I think that be a good long walk, lots of air to be had. What say we head back and get some rest, eh?"
"I'm not sure, Captain," Pizzaguy replied. "I still need to think about some things. Alone." He emphasized that final word. "If ye don't mind, o' course."
"Not at all," Rabbit said. "Every sailor needs to do a bit o' soul-searching to keep the great monsters from entering his head. But, if ye don't mind me askin', exactly what is it that be requirin' ye to be out on yer own for so long?"
"Uh..." Pizzaguy said, trailing off after the first word. His ability to improvise had left him at the worst possible time, flying right out the window once the Captain had entered the room.
"Could it possibly be that ye feel guilt over, I don't know, givin' the names o' our important sailors to whoever it is on the Maven?" Rabbit said, his eyes flashing with anger. "Because there be somethin' ye want to keep from your Captain, the man who has the best chance of gettin' us all to Nassau alive? Tell me Pizzaguy, we may have crisscrossed this ship five times, but ye never led me anywhere near that little-used door. What be behind that door, Pizzaguy, eh?"
"Uh..." Pizzaguy said again, and then took off running.
"AU REVOIR, PIZZAGUY!" Rabbit yelled, leveling his pistol, aiming it carefully, and firing it. The shot went wide, but Pizzaguy tripped over the corpses of Chaotix and Psychonaut and went flying... right into one of the ship's oil lamps. Yelping, Pizzaguy leapt up, trying desperately to put out the small fire that had appeared on his clothes. Mostly due to panic, he was unsuccessful at this act.
All the while, Rabbit was calmly walking, a stark contrast to the hysterical Pizzaguy. Grinning evilly, he mock-noticed Pizzaguy and then fake-gasped, yelling out in his loudest voice, "FIRE! FIRE ON BOARD! EVERY SAILOR REPORT ABOVE DECKS TO HELP PUT IT OUT!" After a minute, the fire bell started clanging. Nobody had appeared to help put Pizzaguy out yet, which struck Rabbit as odd, but he was fine with it, humming a little tune.
"Putting out the fire... with gasoline..."
He found a small pail of the stuff, looked up, winked, and then splashed it onto Pizzaguy. He was instantly engulfed in flames, his screams turning less and less human by the second. Still, nobody was anywhere near the two of them, Rabbit and Pizzaguy, which meant that nobody was on hand to witness Pizzaguy becoming far more apocalyptic-looking than any of the so-called Four Horsemen. Out of the corner of his eye, Rabbit saw them all drawn to the door, but disregarded it for the time being as the inferno that was formerly Askthepizzaguy rose higher and higher into the sky.
He fired his pistol once into the fiery figure, which was somehow still screaming. Once, twice, three times, and now the inhuman creature was completely obscured by the flames, dropping to the ground. Eventually the moans and screams subsided, leaving the only sounds on board the ship the crackling of the flames and the clanging of the fire bell. Rabbit watched, saying nothing as the flames dwindled away, leaving only a pile of ash and some char marks on the deck to mark the former remnants of Askthepizzaguy. When the flames had finally burned themselves out, he turned and walked over to the door where he saw well over a dozen sailors break it open and fight each other inside, all of their hands over a large pile of treasure.
"What exactly be goin' on here," he yelled, and finally everyone fell silent."
"Well," said one of them, "I saw a glimpse of it last night, figured ye had forgotten to divvy it up, so I figgured I'd be takin' it meself."
"Aye," muttered all of the others in agreement.
"Ye morons," Rabbit said, shaking his head. "Ye're all too drunk to realize that the door was left wide open last night and ye *all* got a glimpse of it! This is what happens when ye screw around and don't follow yer Captain! I don't even want to think about how many bodies there are on board tonight! If ye think we be out of this yet, mateys, think again!"
Everybody stood there silently, ashamed of themselves.
"Bleedin' pirates," Rabbit muttered. "Clean the mess up, and get votin'. We've got a long day ahead of us."
"Captain!" somebody yelled. "What about the dead?"
"Ah, right," said Rabbit. ricera10 was a Brit. Diana was loyal. pever is a bit of an interesting case. He was definitely a loyal crewman for us, but had sympathies for the Maven. I wouldn't trust anything he said to you before he died. Satisfied? Get to work."
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It is now Day 8. The round will conclude Saturday, October 17th at 18:00, or whenever I can get online to end it.
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Attacked: Centurion1 (n1), LittleGrizzly (n1), taka (n2), Andres (n3), Askthepizzaguy (n4), Beskar (n5), SSNeoperestroika (n5)
Murdered: LittleGrizzly (n1), atheotes (n2), gibsonsg91921 (n2), Tratorix (n3), Iskander 3.1 (n3), Beefy187 (n3), scottishranger (n4), DisgruntledGoat (n4), Andres (n4), Diana Abnoba (n5), pevergren (n5), CountArach (n6), Psychonaut (n7), Beskar (n7), Chaotix (n7), Askthepizzaguy (n7)
Lynched: woad&fangs (d2), Sigurd (d3), Jolt (d4), ricera10 (d5), Sasaki Kojiro (d6), Khazaar (d7)
Abandoned Ship: SSNeoperestroika (n7)
Committed suicide: Yaseikhaan (n6)
Removed from play: Xehh II, johnhughthom, YLC
Souls aboard (24):
a completely inoffensive name
A Very Super Market
A1 Unit
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Death is Yonder
Double A
Joooray
KukriKhan
Lord Winter
Louis VI the Fat
miotas
Reenk Roink
Seamus Fermanagh
shlin28
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Subotan
taka
TinCow
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaropolk
10-16-2009, 22:56
We don't get guilty / innocent results for 3 days ago this morning?
People remaining from ATPG's original suspect list:
a completely inoffensive name
Joooray
miotas
Subotan
A Very Super Market
Captain, can you tell us which of these kills were made on your orders?
Also ATPG's death description is wonky - was he the undead pirate?
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 23:02
We have ourselves a Spaniard and the Maven scum....:whip:
cutlass and the other with a rapier, together ended Beskar's life.
Nice one CR....you certainly plugged that hole....and it looks like ATPG just sunk town...WAY TO GO:2thumbsup::no::shame:
Looks like I was write about the gold. Who were my protectors, they need to be flogged for running off to the gold stash. :whip:
Sasaki Kojiro
10-16-2009, 23:09
What the heck just happened?
GeneralHankerchief
10-16-2009, 23:10
Summary post updated with the autopsies on the Round 5 dead.
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 23:10
I am going to take a guess it was Psychonut and Chaotix....because one person showed up.....:juggle2:
I think it was because they abandoned Beskar, so they were killed:beam:
Crazed Rabbit
10-16-2009, 23:18
So how many people abandoned their duty to go for gold?
:stare:
CR
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 23:19
The only thing i see good about all this is.....the remaining Anti-town have shown there hand. There is only two, maybe three left and on that list:yes:
Two attackers hit Beskar, so even if they had not fallen for the ruse...Beskar would have died anyway:shrug:
I get the feeling the "Four Horsemen" are behind this....no FH kill:inquisitive:
Sasaki Kojiro
10-16-2009, 23:21
What was the ruse, and what was the room with the gold and how was it connected to beskar?
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 23:21
*cackling echoes throughout the ship*
Told ya ricera10 was scum... :laugh4:
Louis VI the Fat
10-16-2009, 23:27
Whoah, shiver me timbers...:dizzy2:
What a night. Blimey. SSNeo - why'd you jump ship just when this voyage got all messy and piratey.
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 23:27
What was the ruse, and what was the room with the gold and how was it connected to beskar?
:shrug: The room of gold was a ruse to make people replace there, night action so they would stop protecting Pro-towns...and if I am not mistaken....they are trying to kill all the watchstanders, so we are blind....:sweatdrop:
But a side-effect(I think) is that you will get killed by the "Blunderbuss killer" if your Protect target is killed....but I have no proof of that:juggle2:
But ATPG's death was strange - you know, the "inhuman screams" part and that it took him so long to die. Was he the blunderbuss killer?:inquisitive:
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 23:32
BWAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA.....
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 23:36
BWAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA.....
I guess he was:laugh4::laugh4:
Crazed Rabbit
10-16-2009, 23:38
No, he wasn't.
CR
Askthepizzaguy
10-16-2009, 23:39
Have you ever heard of a haunted pirate ship, laddie?
A certain captain will be facing his end tonight. :mellow:
Though, you could argue, look at who I suspected during the day phase and that person said they would kill me tonight. :shrug:
I said I had information on them that could get them lynched, thus now, I can't reveal that (since being dead).
Pizzaguy becoming [in death] far more apocalyptic-looking than any of the so-called Four Horsemen.
:no:
I get the feeling the "Four Horsemen" are behind this....no FH kill:inquisitive:
Arr, you really have it in for AVSM don't you? Despite the fact that the Four Horsemen have had a better track record at killing mafia than the town has, it seems a bit scummy that you are trying to kill one of them.
We don't get guilty / innocent results for 3 days ago this morning?
People remaining from ATPG's original suspect list:
a completely inoffensive name
Joooray
miotas
Subotan
A Very Super Market
Captain, can you tell us which of these kills were made on your orders?
Also ATPG's death description is wonky - was he the undead pirate?
First of all, that list is now irrelevant, since ATPG has turned out to be either A. Mafia affiliated B. a Zombie or C. Both. But if you really want to keep that list, then let's make some tweaks which accurately reflect who is guilty on this ship.
Joooray
White_eyes:D
10-16-2009, 23:51
Vote:Subotan because I never had it out for the FH.....but I get tired of people accsuing me of it...I just want to know what there were doing last night?(I can guess but I want to hear it from them)
And with our Watch standers dieing out...its "Sink or Swim" so you guys better start cooperating more:whip:
Crazed Rabbit
10-16-2009, 23:56
What are you talking about White Eyes?
Joooray is a good choice for now. Waiting on some investigation info.
CR
Vote:Subotan because I never had it out for the FH.....but I get tired of people accsuing me of it...I just want to know what there were doing last night?(I can guess but I want to hear it from them)
Well, seeing as you are constantly harassing AVSM for the last few rounds, it does look like you do have it out for the FH.
I just want to know what there were doing last night?(I can guess but I want to hear it from them)
We were protecting ACIN. (N.B. This is for the first time. We said we did a few turns ago, but that was a barefaced lie, as you didn't know who we were yet. :beam: However, this was the first night we have gone by since the very first without causing anyone harm.)
And with our Watch standers dieing out...its "Sink or Swim" so you guys better start cooperating more:whip:
We will, hence the brackets above.
Louis VI the Fat
10-17-2009, 00:03
I've said from the beginning of this game Joooray is guilty! :soapbox:
But no, nobody listened. Sasaki was too wussy to vig him. The Four Horsemen need to be spoonfed names of scum lest they kill town. The crew ignores me. The captain drinks me rum and does me wench.
:cries:
GeneralHankerchief
10-17-2009, 00:03
2,000th post. :2thumbsup:
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