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I dare say it didn't matter anymore but you still lynched a townie here, which is appropriate since I think you're Jotun, so, fair enough, I guess.
Hey, you helped lynch a whole lot of townies yourself. Does that make you a Jotun as well?
Earthling
07-27-2011, 22:07
Well it is possible TinCow and glyphz are both Jotun, and with Loki as a third party the town never would have had the votes, so really it would have been over anyway and this day was a sham.
TheLastDays
07-27-2011, 22:11
Hey, you helped lynch a whole lot of townies yourself. Does that make you a Jotun as well?
That's not what makes you a Jotun. If it was, we'd all be Jotun. Actually... aren't we all a bit Jotun? Isn't there a piece of Jotun in all of us? Why can't we break the boundaries... but I digress, Jotun-scum!
That's not what makes you a Jotun. If it was, we'd all be Jotun. Actually... aren't we all a bit Jotun? Isn't there a piece of Jotun in all of us? Why can't we break the boundaries... but I digress, Jotun-scum!
If the town kills itself, isn't the town itself the real enemy? That would make the Jotun the good guys, because they're killing the real enemy of the town.
TheLastDays
07-27-2011, 22:17
If the town kills itself, isn't the town itself the real enemy? That would make the Jotun the good guys, because they're killing the real enemy of the town.
That's a very philosophical statement. And that shows you are clearly Jotun. No real viking would philosophise when there's axes to be buried in someone's head.
But since I'm dead I guess I have time to consider this point. Yes, it is quite interesting actually. Thank you, Jotun, for helping the town :yes:
That's a very philosophical statement. And that shows you are clearly Jotun. No real viking would philosophise when there's axes to be buried in someone's head.
Yes, all that rampant axe-burying really helped out the town this time, didn't it? How did that work out for Odin, Heimdall, and the King of Hålogaland?
TheLastDays
07-27-2011, 22:23
Yes, all that rampant axe-burying really helped out the town this time, didn't it? How did that work out for Odin, Heimdall, and the King of Hålogaland?
Women... :rolleyes:
thefluffyone93
07-27-2011, 22:25
...............I was in it to lose it.
THE WHOLE TIME.
You realize that flufffy is town right? During the whole course of the game only one time a Holmgang survivor was cleared of suspicion by said Holmgang and then we go ahead and lynch him. Actually, do it, it's kind of a signature move for town this game.
TinCow is town?
My world, she is shattered.
Enjoy your endgame, you three.
White_eyes:D
07-27-2011, 23:12
Whoa... that was a shocking vote. Did anyone see that coming? I sure didn't...
Tally:
TinCow: 2 (fluffy, Khazaar)
fluffy: 2 (Andres, glyphz)
Looks like the final vote is all up to me. Hmm... should I lynch the clearly townie fluffy, or should I lynch myself? I'm open to suggestions.This made my day.:beam:
Not the whole town losing part of course but I came to terms with town losing....five rounds ago? When Reenk revealed anyway.:shrug:
Earthling
07-27-2011, 23:17
I tend to agree, that post and fluffy's follow-up is the best exchance I've seen all game.
I am genuinely glad we didn't lynch Romanic as an obvious townie and kill our last King that way, and that we didn't lynch ATPG who was being suicidally anti-town but was still town. A couple Days ago I would have expected one of them would be lynched by now so we made it a little further than expectations anyway.
I am genuinely glad we didn't lynch Romanic as an obvious townie and kill our last King that way.
Ironically, he wasn't even the last King. Your two freshly promoted Lords kept their mouths shut rather well.
I am back... and I have a lynch writeup to do...
Stay tuned.
If you have a night action you might as well send it in.
If you have a night action you might as well send it in.
Well, hello there Loki... :evil:
Congrats, town, you just lynched Fluffy.
Or should I say, congrats, Khazaar, you just lynched Fluffy.
Because actually, TinCow and glyphz are both Jotun. And now they have to duke it out with Andres for the win. Or just win with him.
Reenk Roink
07-28-2011, 00:21
I hope the game ends with Andres idealistically choosing town.
It's crazy how differently this game would have gone if not for the early reveals of the pro-town roles. TinCow's and glyphz's respective "outings" (and failure to die promptly thereafter) would have looked so incredibly much different if there hadn't been the camouflage of pro-town Gods to use two Jotun on for three nights running.
At least I understand one thing about TinCow now that I didn't before. No, I'm not saying what. :evil:
Earthling
07-28-2011, 00:34
The only thing that still truly bothers me this whole time is that Loki's naked guy killed me on Night One if Loki is not related to the Jotun. I'm rather disconcerted if that's actually what happened and we're assuming it is, that Loki is third party.
The thing is, with Diamondeye it fit so perfectly and we both knew it to be true, that I'd challenge him as soon as I could anyway, and he was a Jotun after all, so it would have been so simple if the Jotun did kill me - but it turns out Andres did? Really? Still bothers me.
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Day 8
There were only a few left in the camps at Hafsrfjord. Not many votes were needed to finalise on a candidate. At one point it seemed as if there would be a tie between Gyda Eiriksdottir and Karstein Lange Knudsson. This changed in the last minutes before the deadline and the votes were tied between King Rodulv of Romsdal and Karstein Lange Knudsson of Fjordane. Gyda was the one who would decide the vote. She couldn’t vote for the King so the vote ended in favour of Karstein.
It was Jardar Magnusson, king of Rogaland who brought the tally to the Hovgod. The Hovgod took one look at it and nodded to the king of Romsdal who lifted his bow and shot an arrow straight up into the air. The Hovgod turned to Karstein; so, they think you are responsible for the killing these last few nights. Do you have anything to say? Wait, never mind I doubt you have time to protest. As Karstein was about to open his mouth the arrow struck through his left shoulder and pierced his heart. He slumped to the ground dead.
The Hovgod grinned; now that is what I call a decent shot. The four remaining gathered around the corpse of Karstein. Jardar, king of Rogaland broke the silence first; I wonder if we got our man? Gyda looked up at his face; well I know you were running around half naked with that sword of yours. It is unmistakeable. You also killed Ragnar “the Anvil” last night. I was the only witness. Jardar went pale; no, you must be mistaken, I have no such recollection.
The Hovgod smirked; I must apologise. That was all my fault. I have been experimenting with new powerful berserkrgangr potions. Unfortunately they weren’t that good.
Well, said Jardar. What do we do now? It was Rodulv who answered; I think Gyda here needs to go back to her “betrothed” with the news that the west is taking up arms, and I’ll make sure the west meets him.. I guess we could meet here at Hafsrfjord?
Jardar cried; NO!! That is exactly what we were supposed to avoid. We can’t wage war now, it will tax or nations greatly.
That is the whole point. It was the Hovgod who replied. Jardar Magnusson looked from one face to the other bewildered. What? This is not... he began his iteration of what he had already stated. The Hovgod interrupted him; Oh be quiet maggot. He turned to Gyda; well Æge, is this not what we had agreed on? This will help you create that wonderful chaos that might lead to Ragnarok and I get my revenge on the pretentious Æsir. By the way, I think it is time that I go and use my skills on a certain invulnerable God. I really dislike all the attention he gets from the maidens.
Rodulv of Romsdal chuckled. Yeah, you are a master teacher of the bow, all though I think I am a natural. The Hovgod smirked; I doubt your skill, Surt, goes beyond fire and brimstone.
Rodulv countered; the arts of magic are not only given the Æsir. This was also taught us.
Jardar couldn’t believe his own ears. He wanted to get out of there to warn the kingdoms. But how? The others noticed his nervousness and grinned; I think our little human wants to be somewhere else? Both Gyda and Rodulv transformed into hideous monsters 10 feet tall. I guess we could help him. The Jotun called Ægir snapped up Jardar with one hand, nearly crushing him in his grip. The other one, Surt, uprooted a tree; We’ll help you, puny human. Ægir ran to the end of the beach, Surt following suit. Ægir stopped and yelled; Ready? Surt got to the beach, the tree in both hands, held like a giant club; Ready!!.
Ægir threw Jardar into the air in Surt’s general direction. Surt’s grip on the tree firmed and it caught fire. Jardar didn’t feel the impact more than a fraction of a second before he was gone. His broken remains flew like a fire ball towards the sky. The Jotun laughed hard, this was surly the most fun they have had in centuries. The Hovgod approached; Well lads, I take my leave. It was fun working with you guys. All the same to you Loki; replied Surt.
The Jotun transformed back to their human disguises and went separate ways. Ægir to find king Harald and Surt to gather the forces of the west.
Far up in Jotunheimen, a young girl named Gyda pounded on the large door that was the exit of her prison; let me out you bastards. I want to go home. I miss my father. A rumbling voice was heard from the outside; Soon my dear, soon...
Jotun victory!!!
the cast:
<tbody>
glyphz
Jotun
Surt/Rodulv (King)
TinCow
Jotun
Ægir/Gyda
Diamondeye
Jotun
Trym/War Vet
Khazaar
Champion -> King
Romanic
King
Believer
King
Renata
King
autolycus
King
Reenk Roink
King
Death is Yonder
King
Andres
Æsir
Loki/Hovgod
B_Ray
Æsir
Thor
classical_hero
Æsir
Odin
woad&fangs
Æsir
Heimdall
Askthepizzaguy
Champion
TheLastDays
Champion
Captain Blackadder
Champion
issaikhaan
Champion
Kagemusha
Champion
Mr. Stuka
Champion
Chaotix
War Veteran
Ironside
War Veteran
Major Robert Dump
War Veteran
Seamus Fermanagh
War Veteran
Seon
War Veteran
Tratorix
War Veteran
robbiecon
townie
Thefluffyone93
townie
White_eyes:D
townie
Csargo
townie
Earthling
townie
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88
townie
GeneralHankerchief
townie
Nightbringer
townie
Visorslash
townie
</tbody>
Tratorix
07-28-2011, 01:48
Wow, we actually lynched a Jotun? I so shocked. :laugh4:
GG to Tincow, Diamondeye, glyphz and Andres. I only wish we had been better foes. :bow:
commentaries etc.. to follow.
It was also amusing that too scummy to be scummy Diamondeye was actually scummy.
I don't know what it is about these sorts of games, you may as well turn me upside down and bash me about the head for a bit for all the use I usually am to the town.
Hearty congratulations to the bad guys.
seireikhaan
07-28-2011, 01:52
Congrats to the Jotun. Leading the town around by the nose nearly the entire time. :bow:
I would like to point out that none of us were in the town network. It was 100% secure and worked perfectly.
It imploded to suspicion. But again, those pro-town outings just put us on the hind foot from the get-go.
Tratorix
07-28-2011, 01:58
I would like to point out that none of us were in the town network. It was 100% secure and worked perfectly.
Which just further proves the uselessness of networks to me. It wasn't infiltrated at all and it still provided absolutely nothing useful. Imagine what would have happened had the Jotun tried to take it down.
Edit: Also, it strikes me that the town could have possibly won this had we not given up like 3-4 rounds ago. Oh well.
Jotun Quicktopic (http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/cbiSPCiP8ENY)
Tratorix
07-28-2011, 02:04
Welcome Jotun!
I have a feeling we're cursed simply because there's no way my luck will be good enough to win this thing as mafia twice in a row. However, it will be fun.
ROFL! :laugh4:
Which just further proves the uselessness of networks to me. It wasn't infiltrated at all and it still provided absolutely nothing useful.
Not entirely true; if Believer hadn't claimed to me and B-ray hadn't soft-claimed in public on day one, it's highly likely our very first lynch of the game would have been of a King or a God. So, you know, limited use. :laugh4:
Tratorix
07-28-2011, 02:14
Not entirely true; if Believer hadn't claimed to me and B-ray hadn't soft-claimed in public on day one, it's highly likely our very first lynch of the game would have been of a King or a God. So, you know, limited use. :laugh4:
Well, at least that would have brought it in line with the second the second Midgard, in which I believe our first three lynches went God, King, King. Maybe Tincow being mafia emits some kind of aura that makes the town do stupid things...
thefluffyone93
07-28-2011, 02:31
HAH!
I consider this a personal victory for me.
The Jotun did a great job, but WHY OH WHY DID YOU HAVE TO JOIN THEM ANDRES?
Or were you already aligned with them from the start?
Edit: Read the quicktopic.
If we know who Loki, the TRICKSTER GOD.....we should kill him....
The first half of the game was really just bad luck for the town. Having both classical_hero and woad&fangs revealed via Holmgang was simply atrocious luck. Sure, maybe challenges should have been done more carefully, but the fact remains that not only did they have to be unlucky enough to get chosen, they also had to be unlucky enough during the battle to show 8+ dice. That really couldn't have been anticipated.
In addition, we got stupidly lucky with Andres' kills. If you weren't aware, Andres could not pick who his targets attacked. He just drugged two people, and Sigurd used random.org to determine their targets. Yet Andres personally managed to kill 3 Kings, and also forced two more to show up in the write-ups, where we identified them by their Frankish blades. We actually already knew autolycus was a King before Reenk said anything about him, and he was scheduled to be killed anyway.
Really, we just sat back and exploited the town's very bad luck for the first 2/3 of the game. It was only after DE got lynched and glyphz started attracting daily attention that things got hard for us.
thefluffyone93
07-28-2011, 02:40
I'm going for fluffy.
Killing a fluffy creature sounds evil.
Indeed.
You big blue meanie!
1616
And by that time we were mostly too demoralized and suspicious of each other to notice.
Why don't you have this kind of luck when you're mafia with me, Tincow? Something's not fair about this. :laugh4:
thefluffyone93
07-28-2011, 02:42
*sniff*
................
I would've preferred not to be lynched.....
Getting killed by Jotuns would have been funnier.....
And by that time we were mostly too demoralized and suspicious of each other to notice.
Exactly. To be fair, the B_Ray hit was due to his own error in revealing to me. Prior to his reveal, I thought he was a King and he would only have gotten a single Jotun hit which would have failed. However, his death also coincided with Andres killing you and Believer. We were not in touch with Andres at that time, and both of you died due to random.org, not specific target selection. That was more horrendous luck and, combined with B_Ray's death, it convinced you there was a mole. Honestly, though, I don't know how you couldn't have thought that. You did not know Andres' kills were random, so a mole was the proper conclusion to reach. The fact that it was wrong doesn't make the conclusion any less proper. If I were in the same position as you tomorrow, I would have concluded it was a mole as well.
Why don't you have this kind of luck when you're mafia with me, Tincow? Something's not fair about this. :laugh4:
I consider this game karmic payback for CoV.
classical_hero
07-28-2011, 03:07
My bird was right about you, since he said that you left the woods at night.
I suppose The Revengening was mine. Would sure be nice to win a large one as outright mafia one day, though.
I know there was a reason I dismissed B_ray's claimed reveal to you (I knew about it, after the fact) as insignificant compared to those to TLD and ATPG, but I can't remember what it was. Obviously it was incorrect.
Edit: oh, I remember. B_ray was supposed to be able to block Jotun kills if he used his amulet on one, and he had "protected" you earlier in the game. Obviously you weren't killing until after Diamondeye died. Just more atrocious luck there (1 of 3 chance to get the "wrong" Jotun, if any at all), or was that a deliberate attempt to remove yourself from the threat of roleblock?
My bird was right about you, since he said that you left the woods at night.
I have always found activity investigations extremely easy to get around, simply because you only need to fake an ability of some kind and it doesn't matter what kind. There are many different pro-town powers that can be fake-claimed simply because it cannot be proven that they were not used. Any such claim will inherently give the claimant several lynch-free days if done right, so it actually works in the mafia's favor. All they have to do is get investigated early, make a successful claim, then sit back and enjoy the ensuing peace and quiet for the next several rounds. IMHO, the best detection method is still player behavior. Look at DE. ATPG nailed him very early on based exclusively on his in-thread posts, though it took a couple more rounds before the town finally lynched him.
Edit: oh, I remember. B_ray was supposed to be able to block Jotun kills if he used his amulet on one, and he had "protected" you earlier in the game. Obviously you weren't killing until after Diamondeye died. Just more atrocious luck there (1 of 3 chance to get the "wrong" Jotun, if any at all), or was that a deliberate attempt to remove yourself from the threat of roleblock?Pretty much. We were sure that w/ classical_hero's reveal, that TinCow would be targeted that night so, me and Diamondeye did the dirty work. B_Ray then revealed to TinCow , confirming an Aesir and put him right on top of the list. We still went w/ woad&fangs first as his role as detective was a bigger threat to us
Edit: oh, I remember. B_ray was supposed to be able to block Jotun kills if he used his amulet on one, and he had "protected" you earlier in the game. Obviously you weren't killing until after Diamondeye died. Just more atrocious luck there (1 of 3 chance to get the "wrong" Jotun, if any at all), or was that a deliberate attempt to remove yourself from the threat of roleblock?
No, that was strategy. DE was the inactive one for N1 and N2. I went inactive on N3, thinking I might get investigated... which I did. I resumed killing N4 onwards.
White_eyes:D
07-28-2011, 03:32
I would like to point out that none of us were in the town network. It was 100% secure and worked perfectly.The night kills were too dead-on. I knew you were Jotun because of that. Reenk, ATPG, GH and Sasaki all implode in the end game most of the time. But the few times your Mafia, your night-actions are all too accurate...almost like you were in the network itself.:laugh4:
Of course it didn't help with people revealing Kings like Reenk....I still have no idea what he was thinking...I had a blast but I am never doing that again.:bow:
Good job to the Jotun team:2thumbsup:
I knew Andres was bull:daisy:ing about being on town's side, when I was PMing Reenk.:mean:
Are you really talking to Andres?:laugh4:
I don't know who to duel....I was thinking Diamondeye:clown:
He sent me a PM saying he investigated me and joined town (not sure if this is true but if it is then I don't think he's allowed to change his choice).:laugh4: Not sure if he is telling the truth there...I recall how he kept trying to kill me in "That Creeping Darkness". The whole time I was saying I was neutral, he kept trying to kill me endlessly....while saying he was my friend and trying to protect me. Last attempt would have killed me though...Andres is real good at his mafia/neutral role...he could have sided with the Jotun. (They are doing very well with 2 gods and a king dead with a couple of champion on that list.):dizzy2:
Edit:I now see that I was gunning for D_E and TinCow for most of the game. Only glphz really slipped by....I failed town here.:shame:
Well played TinCow, glyphz, and DiamondEye!
This was the first mafia game in which I had a power role, and I handled it like a true amateur. Sorry fellow townies. :shame:
TinCow, you handled my fatal reveal perfectly by not being too inquisitive. You made one simple reply with no questions, and I let it go as a harmless mistake on my part (up until my death, anyway). I was definitely more suspicious of ATPG and TLD, given their network connection and communication with Renata.
I never seriously suspected glyphz. I was convinced that he was a king, though I can't even remember why now.
I was shocked when woad&fangs died on Night 4 because I was protecting him that night. Sigurd clarified his death by explaining that Aesir were not subject to protection, which I wasn't aware of.
I'm still trying to figure out the most effective use of Holmgang challenges.
No, that was strategy. DE was the inactive one for N1 and N2. I went inactive on N3, thinking I might get investigated... which I did. I resumed killing N4 onwards.
No, I don't think so, at least not then. Classical and woad were the investigators, and by N3 one was busy getting killed and the other was investigating b_ray. (Unless I've misunderstood the timing of what CH did?) What you actually got was protected! Though it would have been a roleblock on you. Good play.
Edit:I now see that I was gunning for D_E and TinCow for most of the game. Only glphz really slipped by....I failed town here.:shame::stare:
Ya really like to misspell my name, dontcha
:clown:
White_eyes:D
07-28-2011, 03:57
:stare:
Ya really like to misspell my name, dontcha
:clown:I can't even be suspicious of you...let alone get your name right.:smartass:
gphlz, glphzy, glypzh, whatever works.:shrug::clown:
No, I don't think so, at least not then. Classical and woad were the investigators, and by N3 one was busy getting killed and the other was investigating b_ray. (Unless I've misunderstood the timing of what CH did?) What you actually got was protected! Though it would have been a roleblock on you. Good play.
Oh, right... I got them confused. I was active when CH investigated me, but inactive when B_Ray blocked me.
I can't even be suspicious of you...let alone get your name right.:smartass:
gphlz, glphzy, glypzh, whatever works.:shrug::clown:It must be my royal aura or the bling
:crown:
:crowngrin:
Earthling
07-28-2011, 04:01
So Loki killed me by complete random chance. That's actually really fitting.
Congratulations to the Jotun, that was especially well done, particularly TinCow who was active and not lurking and made excellent use of a cover role.
TinCow, you handled my fatal reveal perfectly by not being too inquisitive. You made one simple reply with no questions, and I let it go as a harmless mistake on my part (up until my death, anyway). I was definitely more suspicious of ATPG and TLD, given their network connection and communication with Renata.
It was a gamble killing you so quickly, and I thought it was likely to blow back on me. However, at the time all three of us were alive and it seemed like an acceptable risk to kill the last Aesir. You can take solace in the fact that your post-death blocks on glyphz at the end made us panic for a while.
Oh, and a huge thanks to Sigurd for hosting this. I may be biased, but I had a great time. :bow:
TinCow, you handled my fatal reveal perfectly by not being too inquisitive. You made one simple reply with no questions, and I let it go as a harmless mistake on my part (up until my death, anyway). I was definitely more suspicious of ATPG and TLD, given their network connection and communication with Renata.
It was a gamble killing you so quickly, and I thought it was likely to blow back on me. However, at the time all three of us were alive and it seemed like an acceptable risk to kill the last Aesir. You can take solace in the fact that your post-death blocks on glyphz at the end made us panic for a while.We were wondering though why you didn't tell town though of your post-death actions. If you had, that could turn out to be extra evidence against me.
You can take solace in the fact that your post-death blocks on glyphz at the end made us panic for a while.
LOL, I didn't even realize I could block after death; I thought I could only protect. I was actually trying to protect glyphz from the evil Jotunn. At least that accomplished something.
Bad b_ray. I TOLD you to ask Sigurd about that, but no, you were sure ... ;)
LOL, I didn't even realize I could block after death; I thought I could only protect. I was actually trying to protect glyphz from the evil Jotunn. At least that accomplished something.
That was why we ended up with that odd day phase where only W_E died from Jotun, but glyph, ATPG, myself, and Romanic (everyone considered a target) were all left alive. No one could figure out why... but the reason was that glyphz had tried to kill Romanic, but you had blocked him.
That was why we ended up with that odd day phase where only W_E died from Jotun, but glyph, ATPG, myself, and Romanic (everyone considered a target) were all left alive. No one could figure out why... but the reason was that glyphz had tried to kill Romanic, but you had blocked him.w/c turned into a blessing in disguise. If the night turned up w/ Romanic (last king) & White_eyes:D dead, and me (also a king) untouched, no doubt town would be all over me. Instead, w/ one kill (WE:D), and both Romanic & me remained alive, town got confused, and allowed me to escape the lynch, into the next night where we were assured of victory.
Gah. Good game guys.
I pretty much had everything figured out by last round, but by then it was too late.
And before that, I was completely roped in believing TinCow was innocent and Andres working in our favor. Really, I suppose the write-ups where the Jotun kept showing up as a beautiful woman should have tipped me off.
Diamondeye
07-28-2011, 06:59
Good game you guys, and thanks to Sigurd for hosting!
I'm just sad I couldn't be online the day I was lynched (my excuses were actually truthful!), because I was enjoying the game so much!
I came up with the writeup when we killed Thor, it was awesome!
Captain Blackadder
07-28-2011, 08:26
See I told you all in the first round that glyphz was scum.
TheLastDays
07-28-2011, 08:27
Oh well... still an epic fail as town but a great game, I at least had lots of fun! :yes: So thanks, Sigurd! :thumbsup:
Also I want to point out that I never bought the ruse that Loki was pro town and I called for glyphz over Romanic whenever they were the last two "kings" revealed.
I never really suspected TinCow until it was too late though.
Very good game, Jotun, congratulations! :bow:
I have a bad feeling for Netherworld III...
Ironside
07-28-2011, 08:50
See I told you all in the first round that glyphz was scum.
Random org probably would've done a better job than the town this game. Got ACIN on day one in the revenging as well.
Including me. Didn't post since I couldn't read a good case and didn't suspect the Jotun either.
Congratulations to the victory TinCow, Diamondeye, glyphz and Andres. :bow:
First of all: thanks for hosting, Sigurd; I had a blast :2thumbsup:
This was my role pm:
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Andres
You are Loki: The God of tricks and pranks. The rebel God is a well known force often misinterpreted as evil. Loki made much mischief but also some good deeds.
You are a one of the Æsir and are currently hiding amongst the retinues of the kings at Hafsrfjord. You do not know who your fellows Æsir are. One of the traits of gods in hiding is their ability to completely hide from each other.
In the previous game you were given the task of making chaos. In this game you want revenge. Your adversary Heimdall is probably hiding in some retinue as well. He wants your blood.
You will aid the Jotun in their quest to get rid of the Æsir and the Kings, but you want your fun as well.
Every evening you can “visit” two members of the retinues of the Kings and “poison” their drink or food with Fleinsopp which you have enhanced with magic. These two unsuspicious humans will go crazy that round and will attempt to kill a person in the retinues of the King. Whoever that might be is completely random. It might turn on you as well.
Should such a person under the influence of fleinsopp stumble upon one of the Gods or Jotun they will not survive, but die horribly (the drugged person). That includes an attack on you as well.
Should you give fleinsopp to a God or Jotun, nothing will happen as they will be able to resist such things.
Holmgang ability: 100 against humans (guarantied win). 8 against other gods or Jotun.
For me, there were three key moments in the game. The first was my reveal in public. I didn't expect to survive longer than one or two rounds after my public reveal. It was particularly unfortunate that I had to be out of town for four days, right after my public reveal; but I felt I couldn't wait longer before people would call me out on lurking (which wasn't intentional, but caused by RL circumstances), which is uncharacteristic for me.
The second key element was contacting TinCow. I only knew he wasn't human; I didn't know if he was a God or a Jotun. If he would have been a God instead of a Jotun, we'd had a completely different game. Fortunately, he was a Jotun :2thumbsup:
Third was the previous round, in which we need to ensure that both Jotun would survive. If necessary, I would sacrifice myself; luckily, the town fell for the case against robbiecon and I had the satisfying pleasure to be on the winning side and survive the game.
Town shouldn't be too hard on themselves; for a large part, our victory is based on an insanely huge amount of luck. Randomness and chaos ftw :2thumbsup:
GG Mafia!
The Loki/Jotun synergy Train was a bit much though in my view...
Death is yonder
07-28-2011, 14:21
Well, bleh, could definitely have done better.
Thanks anyway to Sigurd for hosting and congratulations to the mafia on their performance :bow:
The timing of the kills of myself, Believer and Renata did seem like a mole, that it was Andres and his random kills... wow :laugh4:
Anyway it was great fun to read, and I'm just happy that in the end I decided not to vehemently pursue ATPG which might have created more problems (although reading the Jotun QT shows that it resulted in ATPG being left alive :S)
Diamondeye
07-28-2011, 16:00
As an extra incentive to read through our QT, when we first thought we had the game in the bag, I posted some drunk poetry. It's kind of silly and involves laughing at a kitten.
Kagemusha
07-28-2011, 20:53
So i was a champion of a cover role? Damned if i do, damned if i dont. Well atleast i was killed by a God. Thanks for the game guys and Sigurd for hosting.:bow:
woad&fangs
07-28-2011, 21:38
Too bad you were such a good fighter, Kage. We might have had a better chance if I didn't get revealed so early. Congratulations to the Jotun and thanks to Sigurd for hosting.
Askthepizzaguy
07-28-2011, 23:34
Look at DE. ATPG nailed him very early on based exclusively on his in-thread posts, though it took a couple more rounds before the town finally lynched him.
I think I also abandoned the case on him to try to lynch King Romanic.
Even my successes were filled with fail.
I was pretty confident on glyphz at the end, again, after the fail of the King Romanic fiasco. Success mixed with epic fail.
Reenk Roink
07-29-2011, 00:34
TINCOW MY DAUGHTER YOU BETRAYED ME ~:mecry: Thanks for actually honoring my request though and personally killing me though. :bow: Did you do the write up or did Sigurd?
Really mean for Loki to AGAIN have cool powers. My Loki run is being filled with even more regrets. :sad: And glyphz gets Loki one game Jotun the next, TinCow gets two Jotun. :wall: So lucky.
Thank you for not killing me so early Jotun (though by the looks of it you considered it twice :stare:). I think in the last 7 games I've played I've been killed early except TimeCube where I was Mafia and another one where I replaced in. :mean: That couldn't happen to me in Midgard. Why did you kill Seamus so fast though? I know it was random but man, reroll...
Good job Jotun and good try town. Thank you so much for hosting this Sigurd. :bow:
You guys have no idea how hyped up this game was in my head... It's been 4 years. So much so it was unfair the expectations I had for it, and that I started getting restless even on a fast pace intro. But the middle of this game was one of the best ever and actually met those expectations. This game was basically as good as the first despite the novelty of the former even though my role in the first was my favorite of all time. I gotta give a shout out to GH and White eyes for a lot of that. :bow: And thanks again for hosting Sigurd. :2thumbsup:
Reenk Roink
07-29-2011, 00:47
Wait, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it was me who got drugged and killed Earthling right? OH GOD YES! :laugh4: :2thumbsup:
Askthepizzaguy
07-29-2011, 00:54
You know, as humiliating as that loss was, it was still a huge amount of fun.
Well hosted, Sigurd. Well played, Jotun.
I'm so suspicious as townie....
Earthling
07-29-2011, 02:14
Wait, and correct me if I'm wrong
Nope, you're wrong, I got killed by a guy with a rock and all the kings killed with Frankish blades didn't they.
That does remind me: why did you encourage everyone to believe that the fake "activity scans", including the one that supposedly cleared Diamondeye, originated with you and a Role PM you possibly faked? If you'd simply told people that TinCow had falsely claimed that ability, it would have helped.
Good job Jotuns, well deserved win!
Wonderful game Sigurd. :bow:
ATPG, epic fail about me indeed. We're gonna have to talk about some of your points against me. I feel you've made up a lot of stuff to turn me scummier than I actually was. :stare:
Askthepizzaguy
07-29-2011, 06:13
Good job Jotuns, well deserved win!
Wonderful game Sigurd. :bow:
ATPG, epic fail about me indeed. We're gonna have to talk about some of your points against me. I feel you've made up a lot of stuff to turn me scummier than I actually was. :stare:
Bah. I was right that one of the Jotuns was a king. Our whole network suffered a fairly epic collapse and Renata died immediately after you found out about her.
If we're gonna "have a talk" about that, let's also include all the folks who suspected me of being a Jotun based on my networking as well. Because I seem to remember a lot of fingers pointing in my direction, and an entire round wasted because we went for me and the vote got tied up.
Let's not pick and choose, let's have lots and lots of talks.
TheLastDays
07-29-2011, 07:46
Or let's agree that we all failed and put this behind us? :yes:
But as I said ATPG, you vs. Romanic reminded me of you vs. Andres in the campground. It's like one you've "bitten" someone you won't let go until you've wrestled them down :wink:
Askthepizzaguy
07-29-2011, 07:47
Yeah but I did change my mind, though.
If I fail to kill the person I usually quit wasting my time eventually. I'm trying to not be a single-minded fool, it just happens occasionally.
ATPG is totally unstable. Don't discuss with him privately. :smug2:
Askthepizzaguy
07-29-2011, 08:01
ATPG is totally unstable. Don't discuss with him privately. :smug2:
Don't mass reveal to me either. Like 10 games is enough of that.
Don't mass reveal to me either. Like 10 games is enough of that.
Next time I'll let my mason die instead of revealing to you. :yes:
TheLastDays
07-29-2011, 08:05
Well in the end it wasn't the reveals to ATPG that cost us the game. What it did was turn the network people against each other once it looked like there was a mole.
Askthepizzaguy
07-29-2011, 08:06
I still took a bad risk on Romanic. I could have just voted him without saying why, that way if the lynch fails AND I'm wrong, he's not exposed as a King.
TheLastDays
07-29-2011, 08:09
It's still beyond me how we didn't just lynch Loki as soon as Andres revealed. It's like Visorslash saying "I'm Mafia" only with more credibility.
It's still beyond me how we didn't just lynch Loki as soon as Andres revealed. It's like Visorslash saying "I'm Mafia" only with more credibility.
:laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
07-29-2011, 09:37
I admit I played this game with a bit of a bias.
Reenk wanted this game to happen so badly that I just couldn't ever point a finger at him for any reason.
I also figured Andres' revelation as Loki would be entertaining enough that it would be worth losing the game just to watch his antics.
I also stupidly thought Gyda wouldn't be a Jotun cover role. That was sloppy and stupid. I thought being semi-exposed Tincow would die eventually.
It's still beyond me how we didn't just lynch Loki as soon as Andres revealed. It's like Visorslash saying "I'm Mafia" only with more credibility.
It's a mystery to me as well.
Most of the time, I'm a townie sincerely trying to catch scum and for some reason, I end up being lynched, after being wrongfully accused for several rounds in a row.
Then, in this game, I reveal as Loki. I post in a way that is clearly not helpful for the town. I don't cooperate, I don't reveal anything about my night abilities or results. Nobody asks for my role pm. Nobody asks what my abilities are. If they ask, I don't answer and nobody calls me out on it. As the games continues, it becomes obvious that I'm responsible for sending out naked maniacs who go on a killing spree each night. Basically, I openly behave as a scumbag and openly enjoy being a pain in the behind. I'm as good as openly killing people at night. And guess what? They let me live until the endgame. In the final rounds, I'm not even considered a suspect, except for some dead players who have been right for half the game and keep getting ignored.
:wall: ~:confused: :laugh4:
Perhaps, from now on, I should always behave as a confirmed scumbag; sabotaging the town and being generally unhelpful. This will probably keep me alive until the last round in each game I play from now on :inquisitive:
Askthepizzaguy
07-29-2011, 10:19
Refuge in audacity.
Major Robert Dump
07-29-2011, 10:55
That was over quick
TINCOW MY DAUGHTER YOU BETRAYED ME ~:mecry: Thanks for actually honoring my request though and personally killing me though. :bow: Did you do the write up or did Sigurd?
Well, technically your daughter is locked up in Jotunheim somewhere. Yes, it was my write-up:
I will kill n0rg3 Roink.
I will approach Reenk at night in a hooded cloak with an amulet held out in front of me. I will greet him and tell him that the Gods are pleased with his actions, and it is time for his ascension. I will then tell him that there must be an official ceremony to give him our blessing. I will lead Reenk out to the fjord, where I will wave my hands and freeze the entire surface solid. From both ends of the fjord, beautiful women will come skating out onto the ice, where they will begin to play hockey. Reenk will join one of the teams as its captain. He will score the winning goal, and his entire team of beautiful women will shower him with kisses and promise him a wonderful night. I will hand him an engraved cup and tell him that he has won the right to become a God.
At that point, another robed figure will come up from behind me and whisper into my ear. When he is done whispering to me, I will turn back towards Reenk. I will take the cup from his hands and tell him that management has informed me that he was officially traded to another set of Gods two days ago. This was before he won the cup, so we have to take it back. I then tell him we will arrange transportation for him to his new Gods. At that point, the ice under his feet melts and he falls into the water and drowns.
Also, this was what my W_E kill would have been if it had been game-over that night:
I will kill White_eyes:D
If this is the last phase of the game, please use this kill write-up for more fun:
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After the Holmgang, Gyda approaches White_eyes. She has not forgiven him for challenging her to a fight the previous night. He refuses at first, but she slaps him and calls him a coward. White_eyes gets angry and draws his axe, and a fight begins. White_eyes is very powerful, and Gyda is clearly outmatched. She cannot stop his heavy swings and eventually she falls to the ground. She begs for mercy and cries a little bit. White_eyes takes mercy on her and does not kill her. Gyda is very impressed with White_eyes. He not only has incredible skill in battle, but also compassion. She tells him that he is a great man, greater even than Harald Hårfagre. She no longer wants the King of Vestfold, no, she has found the man she wants. Gyda grabs White_eyes and kisses him passionately and deeply. White_eyes is surprised, but Gyda is very beautiful and he has not been with a woman for a very long time. She sees him blush and laughs. "Follow me, you sexy man. I've got a surprise for you!"
She laughs again and runs off into the woods. He follows, but she is very fast and he soon falls behind. Eventually he comes to the edge of the fjord, and there in the water is Gyda. Her clothes are in a pile on the shore. She laughs at him again and beckons him to come into the water. White_eyes quickly strips off his cloths and dives into the water and swims to Gyda. She moves close, and he embraces her. He closes his eyes and puts his arms around her naked body. Something feels odd though. Gyda's back is hairy. Very hairy. And she has really big muscles. He opens his eyes and finds himself kissing a Jotun. He screams, pulls back, and tried not to vomit. The Jotun looks at him with sad eyes. "What's wrong, dear? Don't you think I'm pretty?" The Jotun puckers his lips and moves to kiss White_eyes again. He screams and starts swimming for the shore. The Jotun grabs him by the leg and drags him back into the deep water. "But I love you, you big, brave man! KISS ME!" The Jotun grabs White_eyes by the head and kisses him deeply. Very deeply. White_eyes cannot even breathe. He flails against the Jotun and tries to break free, but he cannot, the Jotun is too strong. The world goes dark around him and he dies. After his body goes limp in the water, the Jotun scowls at White_eyes' corpse and tosses it aside. "Typical man, can't last more than a minute."
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If the game does NOT end with this night phase, please remove all references to Gyda and instead make the woman some random beautiful woman. Also, the woman will not fight White_eyes, and will just approach him after the Holmgang, praise him, kiss him, then run off into the woods and tell him to follow. The rest will be the same.
That does remind me: why did you encourage everyone to believe that the fake "activity scans", including the one that supposedly cleared Diamondeye, originated with you and a Role PM you possibly faked? If you'd simply told people that TinCow had falsely claimed that ability, it would have helped.
He had no more reason to believe my claim was fake than any of the rest of you, his role PM mentioned that my cover role was likely in the game but nothing more.
I will say I thought I had the strongest cover role of anyone. glyphz's King was useful, but also hamstrung by the fact that everyone knew what a King should be able to do and that he was inherently expected to get killed after being exposed. It would have been impossible for glyphz to deflect an activity scan as King. In contrast, 'Gyda' was mentioned in the original backstory post. That's typical of third party roles and thus gave me huge leeway to actually be Gyda. Since no one had any pre-defined notions of what Gyda's role would be here, I was free to invent it however I wanted. The actual cover role PM just had me as a Holmgang 3 power townie with no abilities, I added and modified bits and pieces here and there in whatever way seemed most convenient to my cover at any particular moment. That gave me an excuse to be active at night, which neither DE nor glyphz could have legitimately done without faking a God (and glyphz couldn't even have done that, as Kage had him named as a King in his role PM).
I even had a plan on how to fake an actual attack on myself, and I think the town would have believed it:
It just occurred to me that the fake night action I created could actually be used to help me look innocent. I 'hide' behind another player, and if a Jotun attacks me that player dies instead of me. So, all I have to do is make a kill where it looks like the killer might have been after someone else, and only killed the target when they couldn't find him.
Something like:
TARGET sees a cloaked figure sneaking into his tent. He draws his sword and goes in to investigate. Inside, the tent is dark and he cannot see much. Then he hears a sound behind him and turns. In the doorway of the tend is a giant figure with the head of a shark, holding a trident. The figure impales him and kills him.
I never needed to do that though, as we always had enough Gods and Kings to kill each night that I had a legit reason for not getting killed.
thefluffyone93
07-29-2011, 18:52
It's a mystery to me as well.
Most of the time, I'm a townie sincerely trying to catch scum and for some reason, I end up being lynched, after being wrongfully accused for several rounds in a row.
Then, in this game, I reveal as Loki. I post in a way that is clearly not helpful for the town. I don't cooperate, I don't reveal anything about my night abilities or results. Nobody asks for my role pm. Nobody asks what my abilities are. If they ask, I don't answer and nobody calls me out on it. As the games continues, it becomes obvious that I'm responsible for sending out naked maniacs who go on a killing spree each night. Basically, I openly behave as a scumbag and openly enjoy being a pain in the behind. I'm as good as openly killing people at night. And guess what? They let me live until the endgame. In the final rounds, I'm not even considered a suspect, except for some dead players who have been right for half the game and keep getting ignored.
:wall: ~:confused: :laugh4:
Perhaps, from now on, I should always behave as a confirmed scumbag; sabotaging the town and being generally unhelpful. This will probably keep me alive until the last round in each game I play from now on :inquisitive:
Hey, look at me in this game; I was nothing but a troll, and did nothing helpful, and I STILL manage to survive until the end.
See what happens when you don't know any useful information and don't feel like being helpful?
You live.
For kicks & giggles:
The supposed hit on Romanic, that failed due to B_Ray's blocking me post-mortem for the first time:stare: (almost the same as in the Quicktopic):
Greetings Sigurd :bow:
This night I'll be targeting Romanic. Pretty much the same as the supposed hit on autolycus w/ a few changes
He is found sneaking in the woods away from the camp, alone. He knows his life is in danger. He should never have agreed to come here in the first place. He...
Romanic stopped cold. He felt he was being watched, and slowly unsheathed his (frankish?) blade. "Show y-yourself!" he shouted. He wanted to sound unafraid, but his voice betrayed his fear. Sensing movement, he faced left w/ his sword in front of him. Out of the shadows, a woman came out. She was holding out a glimmering sword in her two hands, w/ her locks around the reddish blade, as if asking him to take it. Romanic abandoned his sword and instinctively walked towards the woman. He took the sword from her hands and marveled at it. He knew right away it was no ordinary blade.
"This sword... What is it's name?
"Lævateinn.
"This?! This is Læ-"
"Yes. Lævateinn."answered an inhuman voice.
Romanic's blood froze. He turned around to see King Rodulv, standing where he was moments ago.
"The legendary sword." The king of Romsdal said as he picked up Romanic's abandoned frankish blade. As the moon is uncovered by the clouds, and shone over both of them, Romanic noticed the king of Romsdal's eyes turned bright yellow and his shadow grew in size, far larger than it had been.
autolycus stood his ground, instead of running away, and faced the figure, holding the legendary sword.
The cloaked figure let out a loud cackle, then smiled. "Sinmara." called out the cloaked figure, and the woman appeared right beside him. In her hands she held Lævateinn. Romanic looked at his hands and despaired. He was no longer holding Lævateinn but a long twig. Before Romanic can put his mind around what happened, KingRodulv rushed at him holding the sword one-handed, ran him through w/ his own frankish blade and into a tree, pinning Romanic to it. Romanic yelled out a painful cry as he can feel the life start to drain out of him. King Rodulv grabbed Romanic' mouth w/ his free hand in tight grip. Romanic starts to feel his blood and his eyes boil until both Romanic and the tree burst into flames.
As the fire start to spread, the 2 figures remaining disappeared in a flash .
If the game does not end this night phase then please replace King Rodulv's character w/ a large hooded figure. That is all.
The write-up for the failed double-hit (me & TinCow) on Romanic that failed, due to B_Ray's blocking me post-mortem for the 2nd time...:mean:
Greetings Sigurd:bow:
This night's orders will be a double-hit on Romanic w/ me and TinCow.
...
Deep in the woods, all Hel has broken loose. A giant was chasing after another, albeit smaller giant, leaving a trail of destruction in their wake. The larger giant had trouble catching his brethren as his size causes him to collide more often into rocks and trees, w/c came alight on contact. The smaller, lithe giant was clutching in one hand a wailing creature, a human, the object behind the chase.
On the top of a hill was a wide clearing, and there the larger giant, named Surt caught up w/ his fellow giant and tackled him from behind. Both giants tumbled downhill and bowled over everything unfortunate enough to be in their paths. As Surt recovered his footing he heard a loud splash nearby, he looked around and realized that they had reached the lake at the bottom of the hill. Surt howled in such fury that the birds nearby dispersed into the night sky. The smaller giant resurfaced on a rock in the middle of the lake and started to taunt at his fellow, dangling the half-drowned man in front of him.
"Give it back! Ægir! That is mine! You have been hogging all the fun lately!!!!!” roared Surt, as flames burst out of his scalp. He swung his fist and stamped at the ground, causing the ground to tremble. After some time, the smaller giant, named Ægir, finally took pity on his brethren.
“Alright, alright. You can have it,” Ægir said and he began to spin his arm, that is clutching the helpless human.
"Ooooh!!! Oooooooohh!!! Ahahaha!!!"
Surt could not contain his excitement. He uprooted a nearby tree and held one end w/ both hands, like a club. He posed sideways, dug his feet into the ground and gripped his ‘club’ w/ such force that it became alight in flames.
“Heeere it coooomes!” Ægir shouted as he pitched the screaming human straight at his fellow. Surt swung hard and a sickening crunch erupted where burning wood hit damp flesh. The force caused the ‘club’ to split at the point of contact and sent the burning remains of the man hurtling skyward. Surt let out a victorious cry and began to jog around the lake, waving his ‘club’ overhead. Meanwhile, the fireball continued to streak upwards, passing the realm of heaven, before crashing into the dome of the sky. Romanic had become a star...
Word of that night spread among the Norse, and it was used to frighten naughty children to sleep. Centuries later, the story became the basis for a popular past-time game, and the image of a capped Surt holding a bat became the logo of the professional league in Scandinavia...
...
If TinCow gets blocked, pls. use the write-up I've written for last night (also on Romanic).
3rd times's the charm?
If I get blocked, TinCow will send his own PM.
Nightbringer
08-01-2011, 07:42
Thanks for running the game Sigurd! Well, I can't say I was hugely effective, but I greatly enjoyed the game while I was around, and can at least pride myself on declaring that Loki was an enemy of the town.
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