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I'm trying to go 3/3 in your sig.
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Now I think I have a filthy, FILTHY signature.
And I LIKE IT!
No more orders. Writeups in progress.
I love this thread so much.
Indeed, I check now and then for fluffy's posts just for the laughs :D
You're doing it wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choxorn
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Yaropolk decided it was time to stop taking chances. No more night time strolls down the streets, no sir. After his narrow escape, he holed himself up in his accommodations. Even hearing a polite knock on the door, Yaropolk shook his head violently, and stayed in his corner. A second round of knocks came, a bit more forceful this time. Still, he stayed put. Maybe twenty seconds later, a faint light shone through the bottom of the door. The door shifted colors, from dark brown to a pale yellow. A similarly colored mist began seeping into the room, blocking the door frame from view. Yaropolk heard footsteps. A oddly foreign man stepped into the room, dressed in a glittering, dark green robe, with a dark moustache and beard hanging from his chin. He looked quite calm, and did not seem armed. He held a hand out to Yaropolk. Yaropolk reached up for it. A longsword materialized in the man's hand, and he whipped it around on Yaropolk's outstretched arm. To his credit, Yaropolk managed to recoil quickly enough to only be nicked. The man in green brought the sword down with his right hand. Yaropolk just managed to roll out of the way, and began to break for the mist. He made a lunge for where he assumed the door would be. In midair, he saw, as though time slowed down, the man in green effortlessly made the turn and brought the sword down straight into his path. He closed his eyes, cringing for the coming blow....
It was not the blow he expected. He fell to the ground awkwardly, where the door used to be. He scrambled up, to witness that his heroine had once more intercepted a blow. Her spear had glanced against the man in green's sword, deflecting its path. She now stood just inside the door frame, separating the attacker from victim. She lowered her stance, keeping her shield held across in a defensive stance. The attacker's pleasant face hardened visibly. He held his left hand to the sword's hilt. As the two fighters stared each other down, Yaropolk made a break for it down the street. The man in green sighed. He closed his eyes, and with a faint pop, he vanished.
Zack scratched his head. He wasn't really sure how he'd ended up out here. He found himself out near the crimson barrier, west of the palace. He shrugged. There had to be some place to settle for the night. He turned around, back to the dark street. In the distance, he could make out a figure walking his direction. It looked like... a human. A comically humongous human, wielding an equally comic axe, which may have been four times the size of a normal war axe. For a human, he seemed to make his way down the street with such a monster well. He picked up at a sprint towards Zack, who raised an eyebrow in alarm. Zack jumped back as the axe came down in front of him. The head crunched into the street. Zack was already on a sprint past the man. The man wheeled about, giving chase. Zack took a hard right into an alley, just avoiding a second chance at being cleaved. The man gave chase down the alley, but the it twisted like a gnarled branch in several directions, with Zack nowhere to be seen.
A very relaxed Reenk Roink was sitting in the middle of the one room shack he'd been assigned. If the time was come, the time was come, was his rational. He had not even locked his door. In the meanwhile, he figured, he would enjoy a drink or two. The knob to his door twisted, and Reenk did not look perturbed when a woman in bronze scale covered with a purple, satin dress entered through the frame, a saber in her right hand.
“Hello, m'lady,” Reenk said. He held up his cup. “Would you like a drink?”
“I think not, peasant. All I want tonight is your head.”
“Aww. That's a shame. Please, I insist.” Reenk reached over, and yanked on a rope laying to his right. The woman looked surprised for a second, following the path of tension of the rope mentally. Tugged rope leading to pully at base of the door on her left, going straight up to another pully at the top side of the frame, leading to another pully halfway across the frame, leading to a bucket which tipped over. And so came a downpour of drink, similar to that which Reenk held in his hand, drenching the woman.
“AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!!!” She howled in rage, while Reenk howled in laughter, and in an instant, she held her saber across his neck, and separated his head from the rest of him without hesitation. She stormed from the house in a rage, grasping the dress with clenched fingers.
A woman stood at the door to a dark house. She knocked softly. The door was cracked open, and the inhabitant peered out. The person's eyes widen at the scantily clad figure before them.
“Please, my lovely... will you let me in?” The door opened a bit more, and the inhabitant ushered her in. Her way clear, she aggressively walked up to her host. “My lovely,” she whispered, stretching a finger across their chest. “Offer me support, and I will reward you beyond your imagination. Gifts of lapis lazuli, a golden chariot, steeds the envy of the world. She turned her head slightly, showing off her lengthy, raven hair. “Well, my dear?” An eager nod greeted her question, and she allowed herself to be led further into the house for the night....
IT IS NOW DAY PHASE.
Alive: 33
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Believer
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Choxorn
Classical Hero
Dcmort
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Double A
Earthling
Fluffy
Johnhughthom
GeneralHankerchief
Glyphz
Ironside
Khazaar
Renata
Riedquat
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
SoulBlade
TheLastDays
Warman
Woad&fangs
White Eyes
Yaropolk
Zach
Killed: 5
TinCow (N1)
Tratorix (N1)
Visorslash (N1)
B_ray (N2)
Reenk Roink (N3)
Lynched: 2
Arjos (D1)
God Emperor (D2)
Wait, since when was I a troll?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
I'm going to come out and say up front, that I'm a vanilla townie, and I suspect God Emperor was also one.
Therefore, it seems clear that the big guy with the axe is incompetent when it comes to killing people.
Or, seeing how Yarapolk also survived, perhaps there is a mechanic involved which gives an x% chance of surviving night attacks.
Yaropolk was protected by his guardian angel yet again. I can't believe someone actually took another shot at him. It also seemed seemed to be a so far unseen attacker. One of the angels also didn't attack anyone, although that could be the person who seemingly recruited someone. I'm starting to feel glad to be dead. :dizzy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
I'm glad you're dead too.
Walked right into that one... just like you walked right into my lance. :evil:Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
And then got owned by the pearly lady...
MY HERO! :D
I love how many people in this game are literally cheering the mafia on because of how the night 1 kills worked out. I couldn't have written a funnier start. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
Considering that saying so will likely result in a scan of you, and that there was no one else mentioned in the write up, you're probably right, unless there's a hidden special ability some vanilla townies have that lets them survive a nightkill (which seems pretty damn unlikely). But like you said, it could be a percentage too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
What's most likely is that every night killer has a different chance to kill, considering the size of the game.
Of course, Yaro was protected, so this might all be moot and it's only JRPG Ax that has the chance of failure.
Yes, I don't think the Mafia has a percentage chance to kill. We never saw their kills fail like the guy with the axe. We only saw them protected against, tow times, both on Yaropolk.
The green man who attacked him is a new killer so it seems like one of the AFK Mafia returned while the pearly lady took a break this round. Someone suggested to me that the Mafia team might be limited to two kills per night even though their team consists of more members. I dismissed the idea at first because it wasn't like that in Netherworld 1 + 2 but last night's events suggest this might actually be the case.
The saber lady is back again, making another kill. Our only regular to have killed in all nights.
The axe guy is back again and he fails again. This is either a role that cannot kill for a while but has to get in a series of failed attempts to unlock new powers or it's what everyone suggested and there's a percentage chance for them to kill. Poor unlucky soul. The attempt tonight gives G_E's claims credibility but what can you do.
What. That was exactly how it worked in Netherworld II.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
Also, cults! Fun!
I misread it then. I thought you all had one kill in Netherworld II. It was definitely like that in Netherworld I.
Maybe he has no actual ability and is just sending in an order to provide an alibi for the entire game.
Either someone got converted by a cult, or someone's vote was bought for the day.Quote:
A woman stood at the door to a dark house. She knocked softly. The door was cracked open, and the inhabitant peered out. The person's eyes widen at the scantily clad figure before them.
“Please, my lovely... will you let me in?” The door opened a bit more, and the inhabitant ushered her in. Her way clear, she aggressively walked up to her host. “My lovely,” she whispered, stretching a finger across their chest. “Offer me support, and I will reward you beyond your imagination. Gifts of lapis lazuli, a golden chariot, steeds the envy of the world. She turned her head slightly, showing off her lengthy, raven hair. “Well, my dear?” An eager nod greeted her question, and she allowed herself to be led further into the house for the night....
Possible, but too soon to jump to conclusions. With only two incidents witnessed so far, coming to conclusions would be hasty. Moreover, even if there were %chances of killing by default, and you happened to survive (if you were a basic townie), what's stopping GE (as scum) from having an even higher chance of surviving?Quote:
I'm going to come out and say up front, that I'm a vanilla townie, and I suspect God Emperor was also one.
Therefore, it seems clear that the big guy with the axe is incompetent when it comes to killing people.
I would frankly be kinda shocked at his scummy behavior yesterday, and would be surprised if the numerous inconsistencies and attempted subtle nudging in different directions was due to a panicked townie trying to survive.
Also there's two possible ways to interpret the write up in my opinion. One, that you evaded death out of your own skill (which most certainly doesn't clear you), or two, that the killer simply failed, due to whatever reason, which doesn't really tell us much.
In any case, its just simply too soon to arrive at a conclusion.
Vote: TLD
Hello.
This post rubs me the wrong way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Vote : Double A
Why would a player with no ability send in orders and then appear in the write-up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Vote: DiYQuote:
Originally Posted by Death is yonder
Let me think.
You had time to think yesterday when we talked in private.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
Vote: TLD
Vote double A
All that maybe and possibly make me think that is a mafia trying to appear town when in fact he has p.i.s. Most likely is the one that screams for me since when he is proven correct in his ideas he can say he told us all
Yep, that's true, I had time to think about that.
Now I have a few questions for you, Believer:
1) Why have you even contacted me in private? We never really talked in private before this game, even when we were king and champion in Midgard we didn't have much contact. Now, at the beginning of this game, you asked me for my IM and contacted me to be able to pass some information by the other players which was suspicios to me in and of itself. Why? Why the sudden need to talk to me?
2) Your vote on Arjos on D1.
At this point, iirc, Arjos was in the lead by 2 and you came in placing your vote. I was not in real danger anymore until maybe the end of the round where there were a few votes bein placed on me again but at the point of your vote you could not know this would happen. Yet you made an effort, privately, to point out to me that you saved me and expected me to make good use of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Believer
3) On D2 you go with a joke vote, referring to a joke vote by someone else.
Why? I understand the sentiment of pressuring other people than the leading wagon on GE if the wagon is far in the lead already but why go for a joke vote that accomplishes exactly nothing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Believer
4) You seem more silent to me than in Music Mafa, that's a weak point though as I don't really know your usual playstyle yet.
5) This point ties right in with points 1) and 2). You starte rolefishing to me yesterday, pressuring me to reveal my ability to you. When I told you, truthfully, that I did not have any ability you called me a liar and proclaimed that you'd vote for me today. Fair enough if your vote were based on anything but your personal feeling that I was lying but, as I stated yesterday, I don't buy your claim that you don't believe me. What I think is you tried to flatter me and "get me to your side" because for scum it's always good to have town supporters. When you realised this wouldn't work out you just decided to turn on me but please tell me now, what is the case on me? I'd surely be interested in seeing that.
6) I'd like to know if Renata told you that I asked Yaropolk to let a scanner take a look at you. I wonder why the pearly lady didn't show up last night.
unvote, vote: Believer
I had contact with ATPG in the Midgard game where you were my champion. ATPG revealed early to me that he thought one of the champions would be Jotun, based on his game mechanics knowledge and hosting knowledge. I believed him and for most of the time saw you as the scummiest, you were very close to be voted off on several occasions.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
As to why I asked for your IM this game it was for 2 reasons.
1. I wanted to pressure you because I think you're behaving oddly.
2. I was bored, ATPG isn't online much at all these days which leaves only Renata I talk to quite frequently. I need more stimulus if I'm to play mafia. Also I enjoy speaking german from time to time.
This I feel is almost the same point, so I'll address them together.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
GE "won" that day's lynch by about... 13 votes? A joke vote is as good as anything, regardless of the reason I give it's still a vote and pressure is being applied if it's anywhere close to the lead.
As Renata pointed out to me privately yesterday; I started my first game on the .Org as a doubtless townie (or genious mafia, but that wasn't the case) and have only grown to be more scummy. I don't know if it's my playstyle that has changed or if it's her perception of my playstyle but to this day I have never been mafia, so you can't really say it's my Modus Operandi.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
I do not believe that you are town, and if you are you have put yourself at some serious disadvantage from our conversation yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
1. You told me that I shouldn't trust anyone else unless I trust you. That's saying I shouldn't network at all and if I do I should only do it with you, atleast start with you. Why are you so concerned that I don't talk to other people?
2. You were reluctant to answer questions about what you think of other people.
3. You don't trust Yaropolk, even though he is the most confirmed townie right now.
Nope. I don't understand why you would even take the risk of telling her, even though she did not reveal that information to me. I'm curious as to why you did it though.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
This is the first real pressure you're taking in this game and you're making a case on the guy who's accusing you, serious OMGUS going on at the same time you're just putting yourself in a deeper hole.
TLD is the best candidate for today that I can see.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
You are all mafia for talking privately in the shadows! XD
1)2) If this game is going to be decided by some pro-town network that discusses things in private and decides the game by voting in block, then it will be very boring for those not included in the pro-town network.Quote:
Originally Posted by issaikhaan
3) Pro-town networks haven't helped town much in previous games.
4) Pro-town networks get infiltrated all the time.
5) Pro-town network = BORING.
Double A is more interesting.
Agreed. Vote: AAQuote:
Originally Posted by Andres
What you say regarding Midgard: Possible, since you were town there I'll believe that but after I turned up as town there you should have gotten the hint that this is just how I play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Believer
Ever played Civilization V? When you massed your army near an opponent's border you'd get an inquiry from them, asking if you were about to attack. Most often I hit "No, my soldiers are just passing through the area." The answer to that was: "A likely story."Quote:
1. I wanted to pressure you because I think you're behaving oddly.
2. I was bored, ATPG isn't online much at all these days which leaves only Renata I talk to quite frequently. I need more stimulus if I'm to play mafia. Also I enjoy speaking german from time to time.
That's how I feel with this.
It's possible but probably it's a lie because you asked for my IM before I ever said much in the game and you also only learned that I am from Austria when I gave you my messenger handle.
This is not the same point and you only addressed point 3! Answer number 2) please!Quote:
This I feel is almost the same point, so I'll address them together.
GE "won" that day's lynch by about... 13 votes? A joke vote is as good as anything, regardless of the reason I give it's still a vote and pressure is being applied if it's anywhere close to the lead.
A likely story.Quote:
As Renata pointed out to me privately yesterday; I started my first game on the .Org as a doubtless townie (or genious mafia, but that wasn't the case) and have only grown to be more scummy. I don't know if it's my playstyle that has changed or if it's her perception of my playstyle but to this day I have never been mafia, so you can't really say it's my Modus Operandi.
Now this is probably the worst part of your argument because you are blatantly lieing and twisting my words here. I see no reason for you to do that if you are town so I have to assume that my suspicion of you is correct and you are scum.Quote:
I do not believe that you are town, and if you are you have put yourself at some serious disadvantage from our conversation yesterday.
1. You told me that I shouldn't trust anyone else unless I trust you. That's saying I shouldn't network at all and if I do I should only do it with you, atleast start with you. Why are you so concerned that I don't talk to other people?
2. You were reluctant to answer questions about what you think of other people.
3. You don't trust Yaropolk, even though he is the most confirmed townie right now.
1. I have never discouraged you of networking or talking to other people not in the slightest. And I have explicitly told you to not trust me, telling you that your job, as a townie, is to not trust people.
2. I was reluctant because I am suspecting you to be scum.
3. I never specifically stated I don't trust Yaropolk. What I recall is telling you that I try to not trust anyone to the point where I can't suspect them anymore.
Because at that point I wasn't convinced of you being scum and I tried to figure out if I should even bother accusing you. That's why I sought her counsel.Quote:
Nope. I don't understand why you would even take the risk of telling her, even though she did not reveal that information to me. I'm curious as to why you did it though.
Wrong. There was much more heat on me on D1 when I defended GE. Actually, as scum, why would I ever do that?Quote:
This is the first real pressure you're taking in this game and you're making a case on the guy who's accusing you, serious OMGUS going on at the same time you're just putting yourself in a deeper hole.
Also you haven't even accused me. Two votes on me. One says: "Hello." The other says "You had enough time to think".
Splendid case, where can I learn to make these? No, you are the one attacking the one who accuses you.
That's an interesting point. Can you elaborate on that? Wait... I hear you've been lynched? Then I decline :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
GAH.....
WALLS OF TEXTS...EVERYWHERE...
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I have not played that game and I don't understand your analogy.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
Your IM is in your profile, I know the country code for Austria but I always ask people's permission first. Ask any of Renata/ATPG/Romanic/GE if I am polite in that regard or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
I don't see a question here to be honest. You're stating things that have happened without any real question. If you want reason I already gave it in my vote on him. If you want reason as to why I told you I saved you was because I talk, alot. Yet again you should ask Renata/Romanic/ATPG/GE to confirm this. That was an attempt to mend fences between us since I no longer see a reason for us to not like eachother. I recall I used smilies in the message, so it can't have been that serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
1. Now it is you who is lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
I can't quote our PM conversation because this is against the rules, so I can't actually prove that I am telling the truth. But in very broad terms you told me to not trust anyone unless I trusted you. You can't get away from this, that is what you said. That contradicts town networking and forces me, in your eyes, to believe you before I can network with anyone else.
2. So you wouldn't answer to pressure? That's just scummy. What would I gain if I was scum and then getting your opinion on Yaropolk?
3. I asked if you trusted Yaropolk and you told me you don't trust anyone. You never mentioned anything about suspecting them.
This is wrong on several levels, and I'll tell you why.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
I told you I would vote for you yesterday, that makes your case on me OMGUS since you didn't suspect me earlier.
I have already told you my reasons for wanting you dead, I made it very clear in private and it's very clear in the thread by now aswell.
1. You do not want me networking, why would you not want that?
2. You overreact to very little pressure and seem very tense.
3. You were paranoid in conversations with Renata yesterday, she told me this.
Dude, you must be kidding us! :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Believer
You started the text-walling after a single vote on you!
I'm making a case and he's defending, it has nothing to do with his vote on me or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riedquat
You were not making a case, my friend. And I don't get what you're talking about from our conversation. I never told you to not trust anyone unless you trust me. Quite the contrary. I said it's fine if you don't trust me as long as you don't trust anyone else either.
Yes, I even mentioned myself to Renata that I might be getting paranoid because your talks to me made me feel like you were "flattering" me and trying to pull me to your side and yesterday I wasn't sure if that wasn't paranoia. Now, after you come out with lies and twists of what I said I'm not sure it's being paranoid.
Thank God I am still alive :laugh:!
This is the exact same thing and you admit to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
I will be away for the evening eating cancer, so have fun people. Make the right choice.
Edit: I just saw that the deadline is at 04:00 AM my time, I should be able to make an appearance then.
I believe Believer here, that his perception at least is honest. He was telling me about all of this yesterday, before he ever went public with it. What he told me is virtually the same words as he used here (except just maybe the Yaropolk bit; i can't quite remember). I believe that you did give him the impression that you meant what he's reported up there. I don't think there's any way he's lying about it outright.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
He told me you would not give your opinion on Yaropolk, just looked it up. If what you actually said is something generic along the lines of "well, I don't fully trust anybody obviously", and nothing more, then I agree with Believer that it leans scum, because there's more to say about Yaro than that.Quote:
1. I have never discouraged you of networking or talking to other people not in the slightest. And I have explicitly told you to not trust me, telling you that your job, as a townie, is to not trust people.
2. I was reluctant because I am suspecting you to be scum.
3. I never specifically stated I don't trust Yaropolk. What I recall is telling you that I try to not trust anyone to the point where I can't suspect them anymore.
I think I disagree with Believer on this one. I've been approached inappropriately (hah) by more townies than I can count.Quote:
Because at that point I wasn't convinced of you being scum and I tried to figure out if I should even bother accusing you. That's why I sought her counsel.
Bah, you and everyone stop sayign things like this. It only begs people to think of reasons why you might. In this case: because you know the case against him is bull-spit* and you want to be "right".Quote:
Wrong. There was much more heat on me on D1 when I defended GE. Actually, as scum, why would I ever do that?
In public yes, though he's been on your case in private for days.Quote:
Also you haven't even accused me. Two votes on me. One says: "Hello." The other says "You had enough time to think".
Splendid case, where can I learn to make these? No, you are the one attacking the one who accuses you.
*The case was indeed bull-spit to all appearances (Zack), but that doesn't mean it was wrong.
(Looking ahead to Believer's response: I said "paranoid" about TLD? I don't remember that. In what context? ETA: Never mind, TLD provided it himself. I still don't remember.)
This is not the exact same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Believer
The first means: Trust me and then you can trust others.
The second one means: Don't trust me. And don't trust anyone else.
Erm.
Sorry, Believer, but if that's what TLD said it's not scummy per se, it just doesn't mean much of anything.
It certainly looks like lying from my perspective but I've been wrong about Believer before and that's part of the reason why I contacted you yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Of course there is more to say but at that point I was already suspecting him and I'm not discussing a lot of my views with people that are on my suspect list.Quote:
He told me you would not give your opinion on Yaropolk, just looked it up. If what you actually said is something generic along the lines of "well, I don't fully trust anybody obviously", and nothing more, then I agree with Believer that it leans scum, because there's more to say about Yaro than that.
Yeah I know it's a stupid comment but then again my statement was more about the fact that there was much more pressure on me on Day 1 than right now.Quote:
Bah, you and everyone stop sayign things like this. It only begs people to think of reasons why you might. In this case: because you know the case against him is bull-spit* and you want to be "right".
I don't know what you told Believer about our conversation other than what he claimed in here but I told you that I was afraid that my suspicion towards him might come from paranoia.Quote:
(Looking ahead to Believer's response: I said "paranoid" about TLD? I don't remember that. In what context? ETA: Never mind, TLD provided it himself. I still don't remember.)
I'm more and more getting the feeling that this whole case revolves around misunderstandings between me and Believer and I'll go ahead and unvote. There, I just did something that I myself would call out as scummy, only that I know I'm not scum.
vote: glyphz
Primarily for this:
It looks fake. None of the other bandwagons were remotely serious as "threats" to GE getting lynched, so why the pose? During the night glyphz says GE needs to be lynched if no claim, yet there was a claim, and glyphz didn't comment on it at all, just this fake looking vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by glyphz
On day one he put a jokey bandwagon vote on TLD (4th voter), which significance probably depends on what you thnk of GE and TLD.
True, but one point unrelated to you/TLD so much but something for the town to discuss - if that one lass is recruiting folks for a cult we have to watch out for Yaropolk easily being a good recruiting opportunity in the future. Otherwise things are still looking good and I don't see the huge complaints about a bit of networking - especially neutral guys like Axman if he is neutral, if you have your own crazy goals but don't want to be on the town's bad side come talk and cooperate now or you know we're not likely to trust you later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Believer
One thing I don't see is see how TLD as a basic townie could presume to ask Yaropolk to have people use their abilities as he wants (TLD said he went to Yaropolk to suggest scan ideas) yet at the same time go on in private about not trusting Yaropolk. That's about all I can get out of Believer/TLD's argument that's new as I had no private contact to confirm what they were saying about each other.
Anyway, I still think GE was a flat-out mafioso and vote: The Last Days is a good call.
Not liking the fact that this round is less than 24 hours. Leaves me only an hour to seriously read the thread after I get home.
Placeholder vote.
Vote: Fluffy
My completely uninformed $0.02 - no results or anything behind this.
I don't think Mafia would reach their neck out contacting people via PM left and right. TLD and Believer have posted more than enough on here to analyze in later rounds if I'm wrong.
I'm supsicious of ATPG because he is usually hyperactive as a townie and right now he's mum. Renata's suspicion on glyphz is a possibiliy too.
I will vote: ATPG because he can be sly as a fox if he's on the wrong side.
Yaro's situation is too public for this to apply. I see no reason you couldn't have given your feelings. You've claimed vanilla town; it's not you've claimed power role to him and feel like you might have some special knowledge to betray, or something.Quote:
Of course there is more to say but at that point I was already suspecting him and I'm not discussing a lot of my views with people that are on my suspect list.
BTW my current wild speculation about Axe guy is he's a neutral party who can only kill a specific player or players.
I'm tired of cults and hope that was something different up there.
I already told Renata in private that I get weird vibes from ATPG in this game and pressure on him is very good imo. He has to start talking.
glyphz is a possibility.
I'm going to follow up on something I wanted to pressure during the GE wagon though. Earthling your posts seem weird to me this game.
You went for the case on GE D1 and, even though your posts are often annoying, usually you know better than that.
vote: Earthling
I tend to be more careful than necessary obviously. Plus, tbh, I was a bit pissed by the way Believer was behaving to me and that doesn't really make me want to talk about anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
I also think it's either that or the crazy guess is an exceptionally clever sort of scan, making his "results" public each time rather than getting them just for himself. That doesn't sit as well with him skipping a night though but if he never manages a kill at all we'll see.
I'm tired of such females seducing only males and wish that was something different up there.
By the way I do hope you're not a neutral here. I'm rather doubting you're mafia already and once again you're contributing excellent points that help the town but as a third party that could be just enough to get our trust too and help you along. So I'll keep an eye out on that. I would agree with your observation on glyphz being lazy in bandwagonning except since I think his votes ended up on scum I can't really fault that right now.
I can't help but agree with Renata on this so Vote glyphzQuote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Okay, anyone want to sum up the whole TLD/Believer argument for me? Way too much text for me to read right now.
3 TheLastDays (DIY, Believer, Earthling)
3 Double A (Andres, Capt Blackadder, DE)
2 glyphz (Renata, dcmort)
1 Fluffy (Chaotix)
1 ATPG (Yaropolk)
1 Earthling (TLD)
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22 not voting (everyone else)
Well, firstly it's worth summarizing that TLD is a good suspect on his own for defending GE, the first day's bandwagon, and general scummy comments. Part of it is that Believer, like others, has a case against him for this and Believer did say he was suspicious of TLD before.
As for the rest, it seems to me it's arguing he said-she said about whatever they discussed in private.
Believer claims he voiced suspicions about TLD to other people. TLD supposedly had been telling people in private to "trust nobody." TLD claims Believer was trying to butter him up and get him to follow his votes and now decided to betray him. Some of the other parties supposedly involved weighed in, about what either TLD or Believer was saying.
In the absence of real solid evidence like a scan this seems like a good case for today, though I can't exactly stop people from voting Double A or glyphz instead, at least if we get more people voting the voting record will still be useful in the long run.
vote: Fluffy
It's a serious vote. Memes are fun but not helpful, and Fluffy choose not to contribute differently so I'm happy to force a claim out of him, or even lynch him.
Vote: glyphz
I believe I have mentioned my penchant for ties on numerous occasions.
You could tie Fluffy to the lead instead. :smug2:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
Who? What case?Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthling
Seriously, Earthling 'feels' different this game.
And, just to add 'saving myself' to my scummy actions: unvote, vote: glyphz
You may notice our previous posts were at the same time. I know you think I'm awesome, I didn't realise you believed me to have psychic powers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
unvote, Vote: fluffy
How can I resist such a flattering assumption of mine.
Woah, maybe you're right Roman. Another crosspost kept the tie... :dizzy2:
:clown:
So we have a four way tie now?
Are you sure you want fluffy lynched Romanic?
Yes it's a 4 way tie at 3 votes, and what kind of question is the 2nd one?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
The tie isn't going to last with that many people though, so no big deal. glyphz and Double A both have yet to vote and obviously they at least would want to get themselves out of a tie, but even beyond that they the even better chance to vote for someone legitimately scummy and get rid of you.
Sure, go ahead and get rid of me, scum. It's better for you.
The question is if you'd rather have fluffy lynched then, i.e. glyphz where there is an actual case. Or AA. Or me, for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
Alright, I'll hop aboard the Fluffy bandwagon. If he's still around in the endgame it'll be an impossible analysis.
Vote: Fluffy
I'd rather have Fluffy lynched than you, for sure. You and Believer are likely two Townies lashing at each other, as it's usually the case for similar situations. None of you have a good argument against the other (imo) and what was said in private, but not quoted, discussion is hardly significant to me. I've seen how ATPG can distort my sentences when he's Town, in the last game.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
glyphz's case is thin, and I'm waiting for him to react, before saying why I disagree. Not going to give him ammo when, if he's scum, he could trip and give himself away with a scummy reply.
As for Double A, bah - the case is built on a choice of words. I could probably pressure Double A as I'm doing with Fluffy, both being spammers.
Alright, unvote, vote: fluffy
This is the second day in a row you're trying to get fluffy lynched based on an extremely flimsy, silly case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
Why aren't you trying to search for scum, Romanic? Do you really think fluffy is scum? If not, don't vote for him.
Vote: Romanic
As for fluffy, it would be nice if you actually contribute for once. Romanic has a valid point in that regard. No offense, but posting nothing but memes isn't particularly helpful.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
Are you just going to jump on every bandwagon that comes up?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
Vote for whom you suspect. Jumping on bandwagons to "save yourself" is pointless this early in the Day.
No, it's not searching for scum, but it doesn't make the case any less valid. Think of the Fluffy lynch as clearing away underbrush with a machete before ultimately walking the trail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
^^First the Fluffys and then the lurkers... :creep:
Vote: TLD for his general scumminess, nothing specific to address...
Nice text wall there guys but I think Earthling has it right with a "He/She said argument" all in all.:shrug:
My spirit would be broken if glyphz was mafia for the fourth time and I didn't follow up at all.~:mecry:
Vote:glyphz
Isn't Fluffy going to post more, not less if we lynch him GH?:clown:
Well yeah, probably, but they won't have any effect and we won't need to keep them in mind when it comes down to the end. :tongue:
The lynch is the town's best weapon. It's the only way for the town as a whole to actively try and kill scumbags and it's the most effective way. Lynches shouldn't EVER be wasted for something as silly as "clearing away underbrush."Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Why do you think mafia are always so eager to lynch lurkers? Because it's an easy way to distract the town from lynching the actual mafia, and nothing gets accomplished! And the mafia don't have to pretend like they're searching for scum, or build cases, or anything like that. Lynching lurkers is easy, and it's largely unproductive. That's why mafia love it.
The fluffy bandwagon today is a mafioso's dream. It's not searching for scum, but merely eliminating someone perceived to be distracting and annoying.
FoS: Everyone on the fluffywagon.
3 TheLastDays (DIY, Believer, Earthling)
3 Double A (Andres, Capt Blackadder, DE)
3 glyphz (Renata, dcmort, W_e)
5 Fluffy (Chaotix, Romanic, jh, GH, TLD)
1 ATPG (Yaropolk)
1 Romanic (zack)
1 TLD (Riedquat)
Too many votes on Fluffy, can someone switch to glyphz.
Edit: I almost forgot my tribute to Athena:
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