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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Well, there was this muslim bomber who blew himself up where I lived back in 2010...

    Admittedly I have only mentioned one, but that was plenty enough for me, thankyouverymuch...
    Yes, the proper response to someone demanding that you change your way of life is to throw your previous morals away and ask people who had nothing to do with it but are loosely associated with the other guy to change their lives...
    That way you, eh, win and show your moral superiority...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Oh, and my grudge against Islam isn't because of him, but because of how the action was met by other muslims... Or to go on, how all the repulsive things going on within Islam gets a silent "ok" from the muslims around where I live.

    If muslims want to show they hate things like this... They should do more about it.

    The Jihad clique in the sururbs where I lived before are "the cool guys", Jihadism is actually alluring, and we have countless of "Swedes" (read Arab immigrants) fighting for ISIS...

    Until the general muslim community see these terrorists as an absolute pariah, I have no sympathy for them.
    So I assume that you voted for a party that is loosely associated with Breivik's ideology, that's even more than a silent "ok" from you for murdering children...
    I also didn't see you protesting against white supremacists in the streets, so since you're white that has to be a silent "ok" from you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    However, in Christianitys defense... Islam is now where Christianity was somewhere before the enlightenment... Christianity has improved a LOT since... Islam on the other hand? Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
    I wouldn't say christianity has improved, most of it has just become semi-atheism and the rest returned to the roots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    where exactly is the problem apart from the fact that some religious people can also be criminals?” In the fact the Religion is telling them they can, may be? And that is in fact recommended?

    So Fragony was right all along? Good to know.” You avoid answering: So what in IS’ actions, is against Islam? And I don’t speak of Muslims; I speak of Islam as an Ideology. Because, com’on, if any political organisations would have followers killing left, right and center in its name, giving references from the political platform telling to do so, having a totalitarian ideology, how long it would take to ban it? Are Religions immune to common laws and social basic laws?
    I already said I didn't read the quran, it's just that people who did read it and live according to it say their actions are against the quran. Where is the improvement in alienating these people further by banning their religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    And he said it's because they insult something that is very dear to him, something that is sacred to him.” Well, tough. The idea that there are people believing there is a god is insult to intelligence for me, and I don’t start to shoot at followers of religion(s). That is what we call tolerance.

    If you say his religion is stupid, you also say that he is stupid for following it.” Brainwashed, delusional, or just in need of a big daddy: Depends on how aggressive the guy or woman is. And again, what is the problem? Your German Muslim didn’t even know of a French Satirical Magazine, but he/she is still hurt in his/her feelings because someone told him/her that it was insult: His/her choice. So, leave with it.
    He does tolerate it, the point was that it's an insult by proxy, I never said he can't live with it, don't make things up.
    You obviously have a problem with religious people, too, so you're just a version of him on the other side of the fence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    How many muslims are trying to tell you how to live your life?” The ones willing to kill for it: At least 3 in Paris last month, 1 in Denmark, several thousands (hundreds of thousands?) in Iraq apparently.
    Plus the ones demanding respect for their “hurt feeling” when someone's opinion is their belief system is medieval, racist and fascist, against modern idea of human rights. That hurts their feelings, well, change the bits of Islam that just do that. Might not leave much of the book mind you. Don't worry I think the same for the Bible and others "holly" texts.
    Muslims just have to do like their brothers (not sisters, as religions don’t have a great deal of admiration for females) in monotheistic religions: don’t tell the bad parts, push them under the carpet, and forget them. With time, we forget Christianity and Judaism are pro-slavery, against gender equality and sciences, and were aggressively lands grabbers. Then job done, you can pretend that Religions are for peace and understanding.
    Well, given how you talk about and belittle other people who disagree with you, I'm not sure I want to share your modern idea of human rights. And you don't seem to understand the point of a religion at all: http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/4-2.htm
    Last edited by Husar; 02-17-2015 at 03:42.


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