13er summer game thread

[katze]

for clarification purposes, i don't think at any point today i have had the thought "i am going to vote achro at end of day today", i use my votes in the middle of the day more as a tool than as a weapon

sometimes even at end of day although i obviously won't fuck around at an eod where my vote is the decider between a player i think is town and a player i think as mafia. but if the eod wagon is a runaway then i dont rly give a shit where my vote lands

i am probably keeping too many cards to myself this game already though given that is something i was trying to do less in the past so going forward ill try to be clearer on things


ladd: my read on cape has been nearly nonexistent all day. his posting has not done it for me, i know he can easily do better as either alignment, i've felt like he was going to die since the first half of the day and i have not really cared to change that because his posting is. not good. especially as the day goes on and players are actually getting pretty villagery, especially dya trending up when they were my top wolfread for a bit. the game around cape is simply townier. if i ignore everything around him then his posts are still not great anyway so it's a ~fine D1. i guess in few words my read on cape is "a player who is failing to be villagery in a game full of villagery players"



winston: imo finding me as mafia isn't that hard, altho i think w!me is towniest on D1. killing me as mafia is rly hard. killing me as town is even harder (unless you're a town vig, then it's really really easy apparently. town vigs pls stop targeting me im literally always town when they try to vig me )

also the team isnt me/cuth/visor because im a villager

whats up with cuth iyo?



insom: shrug. i feel like benneh kinda hit it on the head i dont get what the nitpick here is he made a weird comment that made no sense to me and i was like "why is that your first thought what". ironically that is still one of the achro posts i still have concerns about


taffy: i dont generally expect to be n1ed in games where the playerlists are "stacked" just because i consider myself a player whose skill is pretty lopsided (i find myself to be a mid tier villager but a top tier wolf, players like me are valuable to keep around because i am prone to being tinfoiled) and also just generally easy to wolfread

also marmot is not in this game i was making an inside joke w/ visor because he was up my ass in our last game because i said "marmot might be snowing me" as a villager, which he refused to believe could come from a villager. spoiler alert: we were v/v



achro: since i guess im no longer pretending to wolfread you
uhhh

i feel like i should have something to say here but i don't think i do

instead of deleting this i will instead be INSANELY SELF AWARE about it just so cuth can quote that one time he went "katze is too self conscious for their own good" because yeah




also i keep forgetting to move my vote, so uh

vote: cape90
@Cape90 if ur a villager post villagery b4 eod thx



i think this might be cap for me or its 49/50 either way i will probably be around later and lurking vaguely in the meantime and if its not cap then ill post something silly before lift

[Cuthillius]

katze/cuth/visor

obviously i'm wrong

but can someone tell me why?

i do have a reputation of bussing!

[Winston Hughes]

i actually buy cuth's frustration and give him very small townpoints for it

okay, small or not, this might have legs

can you point to the post/sequence in question, and explain what you find townie about it?

[Winston Hughes]

killing me as mafia is rly hard. killing me as town is even harder

big game hunting

[dyachei]

okay, small or not, this might have legs

can you point to the post/sequence in question, and explain what you find townie about it?

that I called him a wolf and he was like frustrated that people weren't engaging with him and just sussing him

look, when I'm a wolf and people call me a wolf, I'm like hyperaware and try to be towny. I think cuth does to a certain extent too. But here he was like look, that's not really a fair call and whinged about it a bit. that's more what a villager does

[Cuthillius]

vote: winston

can you talk more about your thoughts on visor? also i'm curious what made you think i'm wolfy in the first place, since if you don't know what dya's talking about in terms of frustration it kinda gives me the sense that you haven't actually paid attention to ~any of my posts from the last 24 hours

also what did you think of sk's entrance

[Winston Hughes]

that I called him a wolf and he was like frustrated that people weren't engaging with him and just sussing him

look, when I'm a wolf and people call me a wolf, I'm like hyperaware and try to be towny. I think cuth does to a certain extent too. But here he was like look, that's not really a fair call and whinged about it a bit. that's more what a villager does

okay, that seems worth keeping in mind

[nebjiamn]

Vote: Ender

idt taffy's a good vote anymore as i'm getting pretty good vibes from their catchup (inb4 marmot is snowing me)

[nebjiamn]

vote: winston

can you talk more about your thoughts on visor? also i'm curious what made you think i'm wolfy in the first place, since if you don't know what dya's talking about in terms of frustration it kinda gives me the sense that you haven't actually paid attention to ~any of my posts from the last 24 hours

also what did you think of sk's entrance

don't take this the wrong way cuth but

nah

[Cuthillius]

ladd
achro

benneh
dya
ender
katze

sk
taffy

cape
winston

visor
insomnia

neither ordered within category or particularly confident, sk/taffy are neutral and the two below aren't necessarily different in magnitude but are still different in my head somehow

i'll be sporadically phone-posting at most between now and an hour out from eod

[nebjiamn]

ladd
achro

benneh
dya
ender
katze

sk
taffy

cape
winston

visor
insomnia

neither ordered within category or particularly confident, sk/taffy are neutral and the two below aren't necessarily different in magnitude but are still different in my head somehow

i'll be sporadically phone-posting at most between now and an hour out from eod

spicy

can you talk to me about insom? i don't remember you mentioning him before

[Cuthillius]

don't take this the wrong way cuth but

nah

nah u

i mean do you think winston's been particularly villagery?

i liked his posts overall, but i really don't jibe with his current push (not just because of me)

it feels like it fits neatly into correct winston!w play in a lot of possible worlds here based on how things have gone today

[katze]

question to the class: who here has actual experience with w!winston

i'm currently thinking about stuff. just wondering who i should poke should i need to

(also my last post was 48 so this is 49 lolme)

[Cuthillius]

spicy

can you talk to me about insom? i don't remember you mentioning him before

he's just kinda been there and vibing; i don't think he's a wolf if he's one of the stronger players on the team but i think he makes a lot of sense if our current poe is a bit off (which i think is entirely plausible)

i mostly don't like his cape progression, and otherwise i don't think he's contributed much relative to how many words he's written

[nebjiamn]

nah u

i mean do you think winston's been particularly villagery?

i liked his posts overall, but i really don't jibe with his current push (not just because of me)

it feels like it fits neatly into correct winston!w play in a lot of possible worlds here based on how things have gone today

yea, sorta?

maybe it was fabricated bs but his post to kat bout malicious intent blah blah blah was pretty neat if from wolf.

i don't really know what you mean by correct winston!w play unless you think cape is lock wolf and he's trying to drum up a diff wagon? but even then i don't think he's really pushing anyone that can/will die today and he's taking feedback on his reads

[Winston Hughes]

vote: winston

you know me too well

can you talk more about your thoughts on visor?

first impressions were townie enough, but i've not felt his guts in it

and the longer that goes on, the more i wonder...

also i'm curious what made you think i'm wolfy in the first place

skimming, i felt like your posts evinced a better understanding of the gamestate than i think you'd have as town

couldn't put my finger on where, exactly, at least without an iso

since if you don't know what dya's talking about in terms of frustration it kinda gives me the sense that you haven't actually paid attention to ~any of my posts from the last 24 hours

yeah, i haven't really

but that's not how i'm reading you

it's not in the details

it's in the vibe

you feel like you know more

maybe that's my imagination, but i've learned to give these vibes time to percolate

also what did you think of sk's entrance

i thought nothing at all

but i'll check it out

[nebjiamn]

maybe the nah was a bit much and im sorry if so cause that was maybe a bit overzealous of me based on my confidence anwyay

not trying to shut u down sorry if thats how it came off

[insomnia]

yea, sorta?

maybe it was fabricated bs but his post to kat bout malicious intent blah blah blah was pretty neat if from wolf.

i don't really know what you mean by correct winston!w play unless you think cape is lock wolf and he's trying to drum up a diff wagon? but even then i don't think he's really pushing anyone that can/will die today and he's taking feedback on his reads

dont think that's what it means. otherwise scoping me out feels unnecessary

[nebjiamn]

he's just kinda been there and vibing; i don't think he's a wolf if he's one of the stronger players on the team but i think he makes a lot of sense if our current poe is a bit off (which i think is entirely plausible)

i mostly don't like his cape progression, and otherwise i don't think he's contributed much relative to how many words he's written

fair enuff as they say

based off current events i think there's an evolvingly better chance cape is a wolf here. does that change your perspective or do you think he could be bussing (i don't remember his progression so i might go reread it after i ask you this) or would he be looking better here. i vaguely recall someone saying if cape is a wolf he's been bussed already, maybe that was achro

[dyachei]

i'm feeling better about benneh

[nebjiamn]

i'm feeling better about benneh

what if i told you i took catalyst on floor 2 without any poison cards

[Winston Hughes]

question to the class: who here has actual experience with w!winston

visor has plenty

cuth has some

taffy has one

ender surely must do, but i can't remember when

[dyachei]

what if i told you i took catalyst on floor 2 without any poison cards

you sonofa...

I want to cards with friends one day again

[nebjiamn]

you sonofa...

I want to cards with friends one day again

we did a 4 player one a few weeks ago with me/steve/tunak/mal and it was a ton of fun. i'd love if we could get a 5 or 6 player game goin

[dyachei]

we did a 4 player one a few weeks ago with me/steve/tunak/mal and it was a ton of fun. i'd love if we could get a 5 or 6 player game goin

depends on when it is but ping me

[Winston Hughes]

it feels like it fits neatly into correct winston!w play in a lot of possible worlds here based on how things have gone today

this is insightful and true

i'm not sure how townie that is, but i've got to give credit

[Winston Hughes]

i'd really like to hear taffy's take on how i've played here

[Cape90]

I refuse katze's request until day 2.

Unless you somehow find the catch up I'm about to do, which isn't actually a catch up, im just gonna take the route of reading 1 person at a time through "ISOs" but like, it will catch me up

[Winston Hughes]

reading cuth's iso, there's a maturity to his posting i've not seen before as any alignment, and it's possible i've been misreading that as knowingness

[Cape90]

I think this

Actually maybe lean wolf which is a little annoying because in one post SK has more content than most of the player list. This day feels destined for a chop of a villager unless I am wrong on Taffy being one. Not feeling a lot of thoughts from a lot of people hmm.

I guess my problem is I don't understand the town thought process behind not voting me there if you think I am a wolf. I am very active and also in my mind kind of unpaired with Taffy for the way I talked about him as the good thing to do there w/w is to get into some type of scuffle not top town them and praise them which I feel like can be considered much more pockety than whatever I did with ladd in that post. It feels unintuitive to me. Why read intentions into ladd interaction when the wolf achro/town Taffy ones are much more obvious. I also feel like your reasoning for Taffy is weak unless this is firmly in their usual scum initiative.

Further, it feels like the difference between these two events is commenting on ladd also allows you to smoothly town read ladd almost in the background which feels unpartnered to me.

So while I don't expect this to go anywhere since you posted a nice wall and 50 posts is not going to give me any thread pull, I guess I will vote you for now.

vote:silverkeith

Not confident or anything but I at least want follow up on my points. Some more firm discussion would be nice too if possible. If not I guess we will kill whichever villager we care about least in about 12 hours and call it a day.

and potentially this snippet (maybe the katze comment in the same post)

Katze's suspicion of me is fine I guess if we aren't assuming they are an anime villain which I am unsure how prudent it is but also I will give benefit of the doubt and imagine they are being genuine

I also dont like how much cape is being discussed unless he is a wolf and then I knew it all along. I don't get how he is the most wolfy out of everyone and if someone could explain it I would appreciate it. It almost feels like 'yeah we don't like that guy' which is fine and all if he is a wolf but I would like to know why exactly and I don't. So @insomnia that's for you and others.

are wolf indicative.

I really have doubts though just given their little day 1 proposal play which I am still gonna bet is coming from town. This is me being fully aware that 1. Achro is a good player 2. That's such a trivial reason to slap a townread on someone.

I thought Achro could have been initiating his scumtell earlier when pushed by katze but i just didn't voice that because I was confbiased into Achro being town this game but it's a thought that crossed my mind before i went to the store.