13er summer game thread

[Visor]

okay for reals though i wanted to put down some OPINIONS

heres where im at:

i think achro posted 90% nonsense yesterday, similar to how he played in the last game, i didnt get a genuine sense from him that he was actively trying to put the game together to be solved. sure he posted shit that seemed like it could be solving, but take the whole picture of his play and i think it really comes across as just pushing people in different direction to careen like a pool break into others and mess with the thread cohesion

thats what he has done this game, he is a solving vacuum, and his read list kills of ladd -> cape was just nonsense. old mate is just a wolf and yall scared of getting yelled at to kill him

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i thought katze posted like katze, didn't really see anything particularly out of the ordinary, didnt read many of their posts to be fair but nothing struck me as super indicative, which is probably just fine

thought winston posted pretty well, obv he knows all he has to do is rustle up one of those villagery sounding tumour like posts and we'd village read him, but i think him constantly returning to the katze well was pretty natural and if hes doing that to play it to me, then fair play. def dont want to kill.

insomnia i freely admit is a light read, but i just kinda like some of the things they are saying and the way they come across. yolo.

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dya still kinda wolfy iyam

uh who else is left. cuth. yeah, idk i dont get cuth this game.

ender - shrug, we will see, not going to waste any time thinking about his alignment today

silverkeith - i understand the potential there, i could be convinced, none of his posting really made any waves to me

benneh and taffy - bennehs posts... i havent really read into them a lot but they have seemed fine. taffy im still reserving judgemnt on

regardless, my top two wolfreads are achro and probably dya

[Visor]

benneh where are you at on dya and achro pls

[Visor]

i also think a player like achro prob shouldve recognised cape wasnt acting in a way that wolves do when they are going down on d1

i mean, i picked up on it and i wolfread cape earlier so i dont get it

in hindsight i wish i uh said something instead of just pushing cuth instead but yolo (also i blame ladd )

[Visor]

would also appreciate thoughts on cuth/taffy/sk too

kind of my blind spots

[Visor]

oh also, glad you didnt get laid off benneh, unless you wanted to, in which case sorry that happened

[nebjiamn]

would also appreciate thoughts on cuth/taffy/sk too

kind of my blind spots

taffy looks a lot better. their return to thread was really good imo and i think i prob misinterpreted their initial 'case' on achro. feels like they showed back up and started explaining more but it didnt feel manufactured or forced and just seemed genuine.

cuth eod felt a little rough from what i remember but i wanna reread. i could see him being a blindspot but i liked him a lot early d1 and agree that his frustration felt real and probly villa

sks eod sucks and is probly a wolf my dude

[nebjiamn]

i'm digesting kat's wall post

trying to sort out the kat/visor/achro triumvirate

not that theres anything linking you 3 i just am not sure how i feel about yall today

winston too actually

[Visor]

none of sks posts did anything for me, so i'm not against that, but thinking past that, where would you go next

assuming wolf

[nebjiamn]

none of sks posts did anything for me, so i'm not against that, but thinking past that, where would you go next

assuming wolf

hopefully dvc

idk honestly, prob in the you/ahcro/katze triangle

[nebjiamn]

for beter or worse i pretty much agree with you on insom fwiw

dont feel like i have a great reason to v read him but i just ... don't wolf read him either lol

[Achro]

i think achro posted 90% nonsense yesterday, similar to how he played in the last game, i didnt get a genuine sense from him that he was actively trying to put the game together to be solved. sure he posted shit that seemed like it could be solving, but take the whole picture of his play and i think it really comes across as just pushing people in different direction to careen like a pool break into others and mess with the thread cohesion

thats what he has done this game, he is a solving vacuum, and his read list kills of ladd -> cape was just nonsense. old mate is just a wolf and yall scared of getting yelled at to kill him

Thread cohesion killed a villager yesterday. Why would I be pro thread cohesion when I posted several times that I had a sinking feeling about things? This feels like two paragraphs of saying nothing substantial to me. I... gave reasons for all my reads. Like what.

If you're town you need to start participating more and asking questions if you don't understand where I am coming from because you sitting back and trying to read me without the aid of discussion with me isn't it.

[SilverKeith]

for beter or worse i pretty much agree with you on insom fwiw

dont feel like i have a great reason to v read him but i just ... don't wolf read him either lol

I'm not sure this tracks but this is suggesting going to insom after a w!sk flip. Insom being the player I wanted to lunch last eod.

I might be biased on this one but I think thinking me and Insom are paired makes no sense but this is the second time I've seen it mentioned.

Idk how to aproach benneh's push on me bc I'm not sure how to actually read Benneh. I think my metric on him at mashes/turbo is that he eventually makes a post I really like and decide he's town and I'm right most of the times (which if we extrapolate to data is prolly rand but welp). Most of the times the post is him sorta making a good post on a wolf which I now think are bad posts aimed at me, a villager.

[Totally not Taffy]

If you don't think visor is the best chop after what I pointed out, don't know what you're looking for in scum folks. We can talk about other stuff tomorrow lol.

Of all the cases against Visor yours is the worst imo bc you do the same thing Cape did with his case on Ladd, take two posts and imply a contradiction that isn't there when you look at them in context. If I get time I'll show what I mean closer to EoD when postcap is lifted so you can respond.

Speaking of which, this is the second day you've postcapped yourself, you need to pace yourself better bc this is an extremely cheap and easy trick for wolves to get themselves out of the spotlight.

i agree with your case on visor

his worldview doesn’t seem consistent

but idk why you keep having these random 180s on sk, it’s like his mere presence is enough to make you relieve your concerns xD

...and because I find Achro's case on Visor bad, this post reads wolfy to me. Like the type of post a wolfbuddy makes who has decided to bus Visor and thus doesn't need to read and think about the case in order to agree with it.

you liked it cuz you think im a wolf, or you liked it cuz he had villagery thoughts or something?

Insomnia could you please use the reply function, I spent way too long wondering why you were saying this to SK when Visor was actually townleaning you, when really you were probably responding to Achro.

i’ll add dya in the winston tier

katze / sk / visor / benneh

idk if this can have 3 wolves but let’s see if there’s magic in PoE

mostly just this post made me feel a bit gross and i've independently been thinking about who'd fit in with benneh/katze :v

What about it made you feel gross especially since you seem to be agreeing with him?

I'm not sure this tracks but this is suggesting going to insom after a w!sk flip. Insom being the player I wanted to lunch last eod.

I might be biased on this one but I think thinking me and Insom are paired makes no sense but this is the second time I've seen it mentioned.

Idk how to aproach benneh's push on me bc I'm not sure how to actually read Benneh. I think my metric on him at mashes/turbo is that he eventually makes a post I really like and decide he's town and I'm right most of the times (which if we extrapolate to data is prolly rand but welp). Most of the times the post is him sorta making a good post on a wolf which I now think are bad posts aimed at me, a villager.

I think this is a misunderstanding bc the post you're referring to comes right after this question from Visor, but actually that's not who Benneh was replying to, I think he was following on from his own analysis of Katze's post.

[nebjiamn]

benneh where are you at on dya and achro pls

dya >rand v

after we both confronted eachother i think we both kind of got into the game a bit more and i feel like that helped me get a more solid read on them. think the way they came around on me felt natural too. like, i think the way they initially wolf read me makes sense given how i was playing a little more watch and wait most of day 1 and when i decided to out more of my reads and engage with thread more, i think dya picking up on that and being open to it is prob just villa indicative imo

think the way they came out today pushing sk also feels like quintessential day 2 v!dya (helps i agree with the sk read). kinda matter of fact/to the point

also kinda just trust ladd when he and i agree on dya

achro i have nfi sorry bud

[Visor]

so if you think sk is a wolf, who else stands out to you?

wya on cuth?

[SilverKeith]

okay for reals though i wanted to put down some OPINIONS

heres where im at:

i think achro posted 90% nonsense yesterday, similar to how he played in the last game, i didnt get a genuine sense from him that he was actively trying to put the game together to be solved. sure he posted shit that seemed like it could be solving, but take the whole picture of his play and i think it really comes across as just pushing people in different direction to careen like a pool break into others and mess with the thread cohesion

thats what he has done this game, he is a solving vacuum, and his read list kills of ladd -> cape was just nonsense. old mate is just a wolf and yall scared of getting yelled at to kill him

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i thought katze posted like katze, didn't really see anything particularly out of the ordinary, didnt read many of their posts to be fair but nothing struck me as super indicative, which is probably just fine

thought winston posted pretty well, obv he knows all he has to do is rustle up one of those villagery sounding tumour like posts and we'd village read him, but i think him constantly returning to the katze well was pretty natural and if hes doing that to play it to me, then fair play. def dont want to kill.

insomnia i freely admit is a light read, but i just kinda like some of the things they are saying and the way they come across. yolo.

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dya still kinda wolfy iyam

uh who else is left. cuth. yeah, idk i dont get cuth this game.

ender - shrug, we will see, not going to waste any time thinking about his alignment today

silverkeith - i understand the potential there, i could be convinced, none of his posting really made any waves to me

benneh and taffy - bennehs posts... i havent really read into them a lot but they have seemed fine. taffy im still reserving judgemnt on

regardless, my top two wolfreads are achro and probably dya

Which leads me to this post because saying "these are my blindspots" implies he has some sort of level of confidence in the rest of his reads but then you get back to his reads and those are like.

- katze = katze
- insom kinda light liked
- benneh seems fine

which isn't the type of confidence he should have on a read that's supposedly not a blind spot. Like, any of katze/insom/benneh might be wolfing. I think he has meat on his achro read regardless of how much I agree with it but his townreads are a bit "w/e this guy's town".

I know this posts sounds kinda nitpicky and I'm not trying to be I just want to point out my Issue. At the same time if I de-attach this post from the other one I think this is kinda town visor in the sense that wolf visor is normally more objective oriented in his reads, and while his achro read might fall in that spectrum, the rest of his reads have like a more genuine "I guess" vibe to it.