17er Saints and Martyrs

[Arctic]

havent played a ton with him, but he's usually more accurate than this and I've seen him re-evaluate a number of times

"more accurate than this" bruh if you're town it's 1 misread and i could have a poe of all the wolves and one or two villas

[Logic]

how do you still think visor is town lmao

i almost feel like you’re trolling

Being lazy does not equal scum.
I still have yet to see a post of his that looks like it's got agenda in it.

I suppose this answers my question of "Two?" Regarding your p#1159

[dyachei]

to speak like you arctic

bruh it's every villagers responsibility to continually re-evaluate

[Hally]

I still have yet to see a post of his

you’re so close!

[Logic]

to speak like you arctic

bruh it's every villagers responsibility to continually re-evaluate

Shroopy post, friendo.

you’re so close!

You laugh, but I maintain that I think visor is being lazy, not scummy.

And because I don't think I will be back to read more

Vote: Arctic

You guys go vote out visor and I'll be here to say "I told you so" when he flips green.

[dyachei]

Shroopy post, friendo.



You laugh, but I maintain that I think visor is being lazy, not scummy.

And because I don't think I will be back to read more

Vote: Arctic

You guys go vote out visor and I'll be here to say "I told you so" when he flips green.

there's nothing shroopy about it but please explain. maybe you're parsing it weird because I forgot the apostrophe after the s in villagers

[Totally not Taffy]

Mission accomplished!

Vote Count

Visor (4) : Raskolnikov, Wisdom, Benneh, Hally
Logic (2) : Dyachei, Ender
Gemma (1) : GH
Arctic (1) : Logic

Haven't voted: Visor, Murska, Arctic, Ladd, Vanta, Jan, Gemma


Vote History
If you made a vote that wasn't counted, please link it to me on discord

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Vote: Visor

Vote: Visor

Vote: Dya

Vote: Visor

vote: visor

vote: logic

Vote: Arctic

Vote: Gemma

Vote: Gemma

Vote: Logic

Unvote: Dya

Vote: Arctic

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EoD1 post counts for easy math:

It is now 6am and I'm going to bed. Sorry Benneh, no flips during naptime.

[Hally]

thanks. give me a minute to digest this and i'll respond to you shortly with my thoughts

i just realized benneh probably intentionally capped with this post lol

[GeneralHankerchief]

So if Visor flips red I'm basically the auto d3 and should start preparing my lolcats start giving the town a blueprint for d4 and beyond, right?

Do I get a temporary reprieve if he flips green, or is it "wait, I'm not ready to fully reexamine the POE yet, let's just flip GH to see how much reeval we need to do?"

All kidding aside, I would be grateful to be made aware of my exact status going into d3 just so I don't unnecessarily get my hopes up or something.

[Visor]

okay, I'm back

sorry for being awol, but that's life

not sure i will be able to not die lol but i'm not exactly going to shed tears if i do lol

[Visor]

i will say, i don't really understand why I am a wagon of any strength, yeah i've been afk today but that doesn't make my posts retroactively wolfy

and i don't think I did anything particularly wolfy anyway (you could argue i lacked villageriness and sure i guess but so have the last like 10 games i've played lol)

[Visor]

i've reached the pre-flipping of visor stage of the day

i'll go back to lurking and save my last 3 posts or whatever (inb4 this is my last) til GH drops a logic bomb on us before bedtime

you can preflip my nuts pal

[Visor]

i think there is a chance vanta black is very possibly a villager, i have been thinking about this for a bit now, but having played with them before (i actually wolfed with them fairly recently in a game @Raskolnikov had a great time in ) i remember their game as a wolf being... controlling isn't the word but they had words for every situation to move the thread in the direction they wanted and i feel like they have just flat out failed to do so here - i understand that this is a very new playerlist on a new site, new everything for them but i don't feel like they would suck so much as a wolf to resort to posting about avatar or dog names as a means of generating content or pushing the game forward. this may be my spiciest read tbh, but i get the feeling that they are moreso just overwhelmed with how to process this game and are trying to work around that, rather than failing to post genuine solving content because they are a wolf

ymmv

[Jan]

Just woke up! Only skimmed the last page. Just wanted to make visor seem less lonely.

[Visor]

Id be pretty surprised if visor isnt a wolf

He pretended to care about mine and rask's reads on syn but he never really truly evaluated syn i feel

He asked me and rask to elaborate on why syn was wolfy for us, when we both already explained it in a way that AT LEAST it should have got him interested in checking what was up with syn instead he didnt really care, idk its a bit unfair i guess but id be surprised if as a villager he just writes syn off like that considering he like us played most org games

The murska push was sooo lazy coming from him imo

Idek why he pushed murska, among low posters murska was def 1 of the better ones

i don't think it would be fair (or charitable ) to say that i pretended to care or truly evaluated syn - the truth is i saw a tally with both you and raskol on it making him a wagon and i vaguely remembered a mention? or something of you asking what my thoughts were on his posts

so i just asked you to elaborate and i don't think i ever read the followup LOL (i don't know why, i probably just forgot about it lol)

i don't think me writing syn off means anything, his posts did nothing for me and thats that, it just looked like syns brand of syn that happens most games, you saw through it, great job, but i obviously could not at that point in time

i will say i didn't defend him either, but i don't think that means much lol

"The murska push was sooo lazy coming from him imo"

yes, it was. obviously. i just thought murskas posts sucked and voted there. i don't think being lazy is inherently wolfy and i'm certainly capable of actually posting reasons to kill people (as seen on the last game i wolfed here!)

this is kinda just a bad post from you that if you didn't just dumpster syn i'd be actively side eying because i think funnily enough it commits the same sin of what you are accusing me of, its just lazy

[Visor]

Just woke up! Only skimmed the last page. Just wanted to make visor seem less lonely.

will you hold my hand as we walk to the rope? you can wash it afterwards i don't mind

[Visor]

i'll copy ladd but with 99% less effort

v
zack
hally
rask
benneh

light v
ender
jan
ladd?

light w
gh?

benneh maybe too high but their wallpost is tbh probably the villageriest thing in the entire thread

hally because i find myself mindmelding with a lot of their posts, they seem liek they dont give a shit and just push on whatever big villa energy etc

rask kind of occupying the same space just smaller and more unhinged

jan having basically 3 reads this entire game and 2 of them being v charitable v reads is doing ntohing for his wincon if hes a wolf which im fine with for day 1

gh bad tocuh on logic, havnet hugely liked the way hes spent his ofcus so far this game too lazy to elaborate

everyone else nfc

syn had the thing where he basically ignored me when i asked him why he was w reading ender, he did say things later but eh

murska jan w reads them which predisposes me to do the same, they also seem like the kind of player/style id struggle to get a read on, literally zero opinion

vanta maybe their saying they're just going to read ppl based on avatar is actually openwolfing and i shouldnt be giving them a pass idk

so ye none of the lowposter yeets are particularly inpsiring but ig thats par for the course

this post (which is kind of a wolfy summary post (esp for someone who should be much more eloquent making essentially a post i would make)) and then the mass of questions they posted d1 which just kinda don't do anything made me feel bad on gemma

thoughts?

[Jan]

will you hold my hand as we walk to the rope? you can wash it afterwards i don't mind

I will wash the rope, yes.
My hands are dirty from all the daily procrastinating anyway.

[Visor]

theres two worlds of logic today imo, one where he is defending me to look good when i flip (but he still also has to actually solve the game as a wolf in this world and i don't believe logic is someone who would intentionally take on difficult tasks as a wolf (and theres always the fun argument when you get a contentious read right and then people accuse you of tmi lol))

and the one where he genuinely believes my actions are not coming from a wolf mindset and he is willing to put his neck out for it

for what its worth, the strength behind his conviction makes me heavily believe the latter, obviously i am incredibly biased and not able to judge this stuff fairly, but i have a harder time seeing a world where wolf logic doesn't just take the easy kill on me and i think his conviction is villagery (which is kinda funny considering my read on him d1, but i feel like this kind of conviction from him is just not something i associate with how he plays wolf).

[GeneralHankerchief]

this post (which is kind of a wolfy summary post (esp for someone who should be much more eloquent making essentially a post i would make)) and then the mass of questions they posted d1 which just kinda don't do anything made me feel bad on gemma

thoughts?

Hell with it man, you and I are already w/w apparently, let's make this happen.

Just one request, do not ask why I'm awake at 2am.

[Visor]

Shroopy post, friendo.



You laugh, but I maintain that I think visor is being lazy, not scummy.

And because I don't think I will be back to read more

Vote: Arctic

You guys go vote out visor and I'll be here to say "I told you so" when he flips green.

just don't think wolf logic posts this

i will post the D2 shield on logic (eat my ass zack)

[Visor]

Hell with it man, you and I are already w/w apparently, let's make this happen.

Just one request, do not ask why I'm awake at 2am.

[Visor]

@Raskolnikov

vote gemma with me you croissant

Vote: gemma

[Visor]

also i think the way benneh and hally have gone about pushing me today is wolfy

i would expect more consideration/balance from both slots

but perhaps I am being uncharitable!

[GeneralHankerchief]

"GH he's obviously just pocketing you here don't be an idiot"

OH YEAH BECAUSE I HAVE SO MUCH TOWNCRED AND THREADPULL RIGHT NOW

[Jan]

this post (which is kind of a wolfy summary post (esp for someone who should be much more eloquent making essentially a post i would make)) and then the mass of questions they posted d1 which just kinda don't do anything made me feel bad on gemma

thoughts?

Both you and gemma have been awol all of today. It is rather hard to for me to get a grasp on gemma normally unless I get some sort of calling from above.
Thisgame I would give her a gth villager read because I know a month ago for the game I hosted she was disappointed about being a villager and would have preferred a wolf rand.

I don't know if that is still the case but based on that knowledge and her lackluster performance I think she is more likely to flip villa. I don't think that is enough to just keep her around forever and not reassess her.

To the post itself. you are not wrong. she has made the same read on me last game on here, which is an odd choice.
the only read that feels like it is specifically from this game and not a dollar-store-meta-reads-bundle is gh. (every other read could be copy pasted from a random old game).

[Jan]

also i think the way benneh and hally have gone about pushing me today is wolfy

i would expect more consideration/balance from both slots

but perhaps I am being uncharitable!

That is very much the "if we are wrong on the poe and the poe is just gh/logic and a bunch of lazy ppl" fear I have.

Both are slots that are ~vibe villa reads but Idon't have that single post that shines like a campfire in the cold night (I love having those posts to reaffirm my reads).

[Jan]

@Raskolnikov

vote gemma with me you croissant

Vote: gemma

I don't like this based on gemma pr soft btw.

we killed a wolf d1 and I don't think we need to get rid of a pr soft/claim d2. we have enough time to give the slot a day and evaluate based on results.

I know that does not help you to live.

[Jan]

"GH he's obviously just pocketing you here don't be an idiot"

OH YEAH BECAUSE I HAVE SO MUCH TOWNCRED AND THREADPULL RIGHT NOW

Did you take a deep look into the red wine while playing videogames again?! :O

[GeneralHankerchief]

Did you take a deep look into the red wine while playing videogames again?! :O

No, I've been sick all week. I never drink when I'm sick. This is just a product of regular old stupidity, much like signing up for a mafia game.