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    @White_Eyes:

    I'm awake right now, you're awake, and this can be done in-private.

    Why should I wait? I'm not a very patient man. If you're town, you do need to explain what you're up to. That is not much to ask. I am not trying to get you lynched, I just want answers. Be a townie that I think you are, and please work with me for 5 minutes rather than against me. Don't reveal new info, I don't care. Just toss me a bone and talk to me honestly and without the accusatory tone.

    I cleared space in my inbox, waiting.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    Anywho. I repeat once again, and again, and again, and again.... reveal yourselves to Seamus. He will not survive now. That means both he and I are innocent. As for Sasaki, he's not getting any further information from us, so he has no further reason to keep the investigator alive if he were evil.
    Seamus probably will survive because he is no threat to the town until the numbers get much smaller. Better for the mafia to kill people other than Seamus, because by doing that they might actually hit a threat to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    Anywho. I repeat once again, and again, and again, and again.... reveal yourselves to Seamus. He will not survive now. That means both he and I are innocent. As for Sasaki, he's not getting any further information from us, so he has no further reason to keep the investigator alive if he were evil.

    You don't have to agree with the pro-town network strategy, but with my death and Seamus', and our ability to make public the names of the innocent at any time, you know that we are innocent. We have both defended dozens of townies all game so far.
    I urge the entire town to ignore ATPG and to not give him ANY information. Don't give him your role name, don't give him your duel rating, don't tell him what you can do, and definitely do not give him your role PM. ATPG does not know how to keep information secret, nor does he have a proper empirical method of determining what information is true and what is false. He believes parts of it and does not believe other parts of it according to his whims and his own assumptions which can never be perfect.

    The town is far safer if all townies continue to play as we always have in these games, through slow and careful analysis of the evidence and by releasing important evidence when it is critical for the discussion. Do not give out any evidence unless it is immediately necessary for your survival or it will directly and immediately result in the lynching of a guilty party.
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    Yoyoma1910 or FactionHeir should be lynched.
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    I urge the town to ignore me and not give me any information either, because frankly I have too much of it already and my double-sized inbox is now full yet again, even after massive deleting.

    If you have further information, send it to Congress, they apparently need direction.
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    I'll agree with Andres : Yoyoma of FH have to go.

    Reasons :

    Yoyoma : his being blocked resulted in less kills in the nights he was blocked. Though not an absolute proof of guilt (mafia may have chosen to kill one less person for any reason...), it is enough to not let him wander around freely and force him to reveal or hang.

    FH : pointed out by GH who unfailingly brought out Andres (for good or bad...)... No more needs to be said.

    I'll add Tincow to the list of potential lynch victims : his whole attitude reeks of scummy behaviour... though I cannot point any single "flaw" in his statements...
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    I am not sure that yoyoma should die at least not at first if you look through the death scene where he killed saskai it actually looks to me to be a vig of some description perhaps he is like andres but reversed but I think we can keep him alive a little longer nad see what happnes. On the other hand FH seems to be a good lynch target for now.


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    Maybe I am tired from lack of sleep, but I've noticed more than one townie accuse me of overlooking something, when they themselves grossly overlooked something in that very same accusation.

    Two in the past hour, privately.

    Please, before you tell me I'm not paying attention, please recheck your facts first. Thanks much.

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    While I am gratified to those who were kind enough to forward me information, I caution ALL players against jumping to decisions on lynches.

    Sasaki is quite correct in that we should be careful about ASSUMING we know who did what murders. There is evidence in the write ups and we should make tentative assessments of who was mafia killed etc. But I stress a note of caution as well.

    So far, unless I am totally lost, ALL of the roles contain a bit of sugar/vinegar -- good guy but must outlast X or SK of 33% of town but looking for town win -- and Reenk is a tricksy one. We must have a care for these inherent contradictions (kudos Reenk, its well crafted).

    Don't just say "we must lynch x," but reference in the information and provide us a why. The arguments will get better and we'll winnow out the ones whose answers don't come to par.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    Maybe I am tired from lack of sleep, but I've noticed more than one townie accuse me of overlooking something, when they themselves grossly overlooked something in that very same accusation.

    Two in the past hour, privately.

    Please, before you tell me I'm not paying attention, please recheck your facts first. Thanks much.

    Well, townies are the uninformed majority. :P
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    I feel I was too harsh, even in that carefully worded post. I apologize.



    We all make mistakes sometimes. Especially me.





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    ooc: It's going to take me any spare time I get this evening just to go through all those PMs you shepherds shared, let alone catch up on this thread. From skim-reading it I gather that Faction Heir hasn't responded to GH's accusation from beyond the grave.

    ATPG - please no need to respond to this: I understand why you would put pressure on players for not responding to your questioning, but your idea of a timely manner is clearly not the same as everyone elses. Remember that while you don't need to catch up with everything you write - the rest of us do - even if it's just to spot the rare and potentially incriminating post by someone else in the thread

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    ATPG or Seamus:

    Can you please elaborate on this series of PMs? I'm not sure what to make of it:

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    So, can I join the club?

    I am on the town's side with a side objective of killing a certain someone (and my kill only works if it is that person, not at other times - then I just nick some items, like a healing potion from sasaki last night)
    Yes, providing you quote me your entire role Pm within the next 5 minutes.



    Sorry, by now I must be certain. Shady people will try to infiltrate, but I trust you to a certain extent.

    he took like 30 seconds to respond with the full thing.
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    I didn't respond because they are baseless and I already gave my part of the story earlier in the thread. Unless he actually has some hard evidence that he would post, there is no point in posting more WIFOM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    ATPG or Seamus:

    Can you please elaborate on this series of PMs? I'm not sure what to make of it:
    Seems like Pisuf (is that an insult?) is a paid up member of the United Masonic Shepherd Detective (and Pizza Delivery) Agency

    @ Faction Heir - As GH has not elaborated on his claims your response seems fitting to me for now.

    GH - care to elaborate further?

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    Working on it boudica, thanks.
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    Be very careful to maken assumptions based off role blocking, another lesson i learnt from being mafia in midgaard, a few people were incorrectly identified as mafia or incorretly identified as innocent due to a role block being peformed that night... though it did also lead to increased suspicion on sarathos (if i remember rightly) who was mafia... just be careful to make too many assumptions based on role blocking...

    Im intrested in GH elaboration on FH, in fairness GH has earned a good deal of trust with his discovery of andres....
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    Quote Originally Posted by boudica View Post
    Seems like Pisuf (is that an insult?) is a paid up member of the United Masonic Shepherd Detective (and Pizza Delivery) Agency
    Yes, that player was & is claiming a detective role of sorts. While we could be getting "played," pizza was noting that the player's response to his "give me your PM quickly" WAS very prompt. It would not have been possible for that person to have constructed it rapidly in response to pizza's request. If we're being played here, it was organized in advance.

    Moreover, the one shared detective result does seem to have been born out by a subsequent PM sharing with pizza. Again, this does not preclude an elaborate setup -- Tincow schooled us all that such are possible during Capo II -- but we all know such elaborate efforts are less frequent/likely.
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    But I had my own fake detective role, on Godfather 3.....it was not hardtook me ten minutes....and I did it on spare time...mostly it would have shaved off one round for me and Beefy...on here? such a thing COULD be used to break into a Pro-townie network....and the fact that he has "discovered" and reported only one result....is troubling to say the least-suggests that you guys might have leaked it to get Beefy killed......
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    Quote Originally Posted by White_eyes:D View Post
    But I had my own fake detective role, on Godfather 3.....it was not hardtook me ten minutes....and I did it on spare time...mostly it would have shaved off one round for me and Beefy...on here? such a thing COULD be used to break into a Pro-townie network....and the fact that he has "discovered" and reported only one result....is troubling to say the least-suggests that you guys might have leaked it to get Beefy killed......
    Could we be being played by a duo who had their stuff drawn up in advance? Yes. But it would have required a lot of prep effort. I said that we seldom see that level of prepared obfuscation, not that it couldn't happen. This gives me some but not compete confidence. We need information that is as glaring as that provided by Ares and Andres before I start issuing mental 85+% certainty evals.

    The detection result I referenced is discussed under spoilers 3 and 4 of post 947 -- which occurred after the Beefster's demise. I profited from Beefy's demise, and would have dueled him to achieve it long about round 6 or so, but pizza and I (as discussed above) were waiting for our moment (having ID'd him) while turning to the larger project.

    You really seem to be adhering to the concept that we were leaking Beefy's info to get him killed. To whom? If we were mafia or bad god mignons, we'd have killed him ourselves -- you said something similar yourself regarding your own performance in GF3 -- and if we aren't such then to whom would we have leaked his information? Beefy himself put more tax guy stuff into the thread than we ever did. So why the persistence in being "troubled?" Is it important to you that I be lynched rather than murdered or killed fighting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Could we be being played by a duo who had their stuff drawn up in advance? Yes. But it would have required a lot of prep effort.

    You really seem to be adhering to the concept that we were leaking Beefy's info to get him killed. To whom? If we were mafia or bad god mignons, we'd have killed him ourselves -- you said something similar yourself regarding your own performance in GF3 -- and if we aren't such then to whom would we have leaked his information? Beefy himself put more tax guy stuff into the thread than we ever did. So why the persistence in being "troubled?" Is it important to you that I be lynched rather than murdered or killed fighting?
    It could be a cover role.... it sounds like it....if you get killed, give us the names of the two and they should be next on the chopping block....

    When did I say you should be "lynched?" I was in fact more pointing to how you were being fooled, then on how you might be fooling us.....

    Edit:GH's info seems more solid....which is why I would not want you lynched...there are better lynchees right now....
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    Can someone clarify this for me...

    We either have 2 detectives... one in contact with seamus and ATPG, and one in contact with GH, or we have the same detective contacting both, or one is being tricked by mafia...

    Both are being tricked my mafia (i guess is a posibility...)

    Did atpg and seamus recieve info on andres which im guessing gh did ?
    Did whatever gh recieved on andres match his role ?
    Have atpg and seamus had a similar oppurtunity to match roles and investigations with thier guy ?
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    Seamus, I certainly feel like your attempts to get all this information out has been done with an honest purpose, but I don't see any practical result from it. I've read or skimmed all your posts, and I don't see anything that the town can remotely act on. Other than revealing your and ATPG's roles, this is the only substantive information I've gleamed:

    1) There is a pro-town (the term is used loosely) role (The Thief) that wants to kill another pro-town role (The Watcher).
    2) You are in touch with a detective who has provided you with a detective result on a single other person who is not guilty.

    Am I missing something? Is there an actual accusation in there somewhere that I didn't see?


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    *takes a break from being on break*

    I believe Seamus' objective THIS round was to reveal the contents of the PMs but not the people involved, before he died. We cannot do such after death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    *takes a break from being on break*

    I believe Seamus' objective THIS round was to reveal the contents of the PMs but not the people involved, before he died. We cannot do such after death.

    *break time*
    Fair enough, but why? Why post all of those PMs when they give us no information worth acting on and I can summarize all the 'new' evidence in them in two lines? The only reason I can think of to do this is to exonerate oneself from accusations, and I don't think a single person was accusing Seamus of anything. This whole discussion, spanning multiple pages, seems to me to be manufactured for no benefit at all. That makes me very uneasy.


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    Tincow:

    Pizza is correct. This way all of it could be in the public record for later comparisons and use. As you know, a lot of early clues only become clear as the situation clarifies near the endgame. I just wanted all of this data available then.

    Your summary is acurate. Obviously, I do have the names and may now reference those in connection with already posted PMs should the need arise. Acting on this data now would be, as you rightly note, a bit premature.
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    Later on, and especially when the town demands we name names, we can reveal precisely who is who. But by then Seamus will be dead and quoting PMs will be illegal.



    The information will be useful to you LATER, and it's important that you know we know people who have claimed these roles. And sorry, but this does add evidence to the case that we've been behaving as masonic shepherds all this time, and also, that we've been defending the pro-town people who did reveal to us as best we can.



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    Seamus; I think being masons has fused our brains together. Get out of my head! Stop thinking the exact same thing and posting it simultaneously!!!
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    Alright, that's a reasonable explanation and I'll accept it. However, I do feel the need to point out that GH just got us to lynch a killer while dead and without any PMs or evidence of any kind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly View Post
    Can someone clarify this for me...

    aWe either have 2 detectives... one in contact with seamus and ATPG, and one in contact with GH, or we have the same detective contacting both, or one is being tricked by mafia...

    Both are being tricked my mafia (i guess is a posibility...)

    bDid atpg and seamus recieve info on andres which im guessing gh did ?
    cDid whatever gh recieved on andres match his role ?
    dHave atpg and seamus had a similar oppurtunity to match roles and investigations with thier guy ?
    I have added labels to your points in your post for clarity.

    a All of these are possible. It seems likely that GH has access to some source of info, but pizza and I have not yet received info that would let us know if we're referencing the same source.

    b No info on Andres. All of my comments were based on his reveal/PM. I did use the PMs we'd received from others as comparison for format etc., but we did not get specifics on Andres.

    c Can't speak to that myself obviously. GH was not part of our brief-lived network.

    d So far, we only have the one apparent match/comparison. We do have other information on living players. Among the dead, as you will note, the info we received/generated regarding both Beefy and TheFlax has lined up with their revealed/claimed information.

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    Pizza: I still havent' forgiven you for going Gotterdamerung on your sheep. Baaaaaad Shepherd, baaaaaaaad! But a pretty decent Mason. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    Alright, that's a reasonable explanation and I'll accept it. However, I do feel the need to point out that GH just got us to lynch a killer while dead and without any PMs or evidence of any kind.
    Style of play thing. I've got a rep for evidence. When I claim "this is the ticket" people expect me to reference why. GH's style is different and he's validated differently.
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