Quote Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly View Post
I don't know if you missed the post or didn't know the source of the quote. Winston Churchill (fairly conservative and a big hater of communism) The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with your average voter. I don't think the view that people are generally un educated... or at least not very knowledagable on politics is a paticularly shocking one. I know for a fact that most of my friends are clueless about politics, admittedly most of these are about 18-20 but i find even as you go up the age groups there is a shocking lack of knowledge about politics... even in the intrested...

Seamus, out of interest would you prefer the states under one national goverment with more state rights, which is something like i would want in Europe. Or 50 seperate countrys with free trade agreements and occasional overlaps in policy where the states (now seperate countrys) work together ?

So, the best thing is to sort out your own backyard before expanding it and then realising that it's just as bad.

If people are uninterested about politics now, why the heck will they take an interest in the maze of toss which comprises the EU. Instead of lambasting your fellow taxpayers and Britons for not knowing enough, seek a solution, if they do not know enough, help them know enough. Do not use their lack of knowledge as a weapon against them or as reason to disregard their what they firmly hold as their right to have a say. Doing anything else will merely anatgonise those people who view the EU through a mist of fear and apprehension.