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    I agree mainly. Not sure I agree with the fact that it would limit battles for players though, the key of course would be land ownership (mostly) but its not going to be limited to that. The KEY is to have players as Dukes who are of a high quality when it comes to RP and gamesmanship.

    For example a Duke “could” control one large army stack and do all the fighting, leaving his vassals (who are also Player Character Avatars) as governors. This, of course ,is the poor end of the scale. Ideally a Duke would use his influence and lands to generate multiple smaller army stacks and allocate some autonomy to their vassals that not only govern specific areas but those without direct control of land.

    In this instance each Duke effectively becomes a Mini-Seneschal for their land holdings but in effect each vassal has control of all of the Dukes lands (perhaps apart from their official capital).
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    On another note, I've justed noted that Philippe's portrait changed : he has now a crop of white hair... Starts smelling of pine in here...

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    So, which of us is Darth Maul and which Vader?
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    The Emperor didn't have enough wine, women, and song around him to suit Louis' tastes... although it must be said that lightning thing would be useful in some of these Council sessions.


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    Been working the graveyard shift and still trying to get my day to day schedule together.

    I understand we need a few rgbs? 3?

    I will also finally kill off the inactive avatars, unless anyone would like to take them.
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    Zim

    With a couple of players waiting in the wings and our current active ones having lost a few, do you have a list of inactive Avatars you can put forward for people to choose?

    Might make life easier for them to pick.
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    We have currently at least two inactive avatars : Loup de Gisors and Pierre de St Germain (both located in Rennes).

    I don't know the status of Eloi de Montferrat (near Antwerp) but IIRC he's not far from going inactive.
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    Braden - please can you amend your edict to remove the part about demolishing military buildings in Nottingham and London? I know it has an IC logic, but OOC we really don't need to further weaken the AI in this game. We can't really argue about this IC, as IC you are right, no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by econ21 View Post
    Braden - please can you amend your edict to remove the part about demolishing military buildings in Nottingham and London? I know it has an IC logic, but OOC we really don't need to further weaken the AI in this game. We can't really argue about this IC, as IC you are right, no doubt.
    Hmm..ok I see your point.
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    Thanks, Braden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng View Post
    We have currently at least two inactive avatars : Loup de Gisors and Pierre de St Germain (both located in Rennes).

    I don't know the status of Eloi de Montferrat (near Antwerp) but IIRC he's not far from going inactive.
    I agree that Eloi is inactive - I think the Lemongate told Zim he was leaving the game a while back. Alphonse la Hire should also be added to this list - IIRC, Rowan posted in this thread that he has dropped out of the game. These avatars had good traits when spawned (I don't know if they have picked up any bad vices since) and I don't think their original owners developed their characters so much that it would restrict another player who picked them up. Zim will be spawning fresh avatars but Elite Ferret, Ibn, CDF and Northnovas should let Zim know if they want to pick up an abandoned avatar instead. Presumably either EF or Ibn will get Prince Charles.

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    On the question of rebels, I see them as they are, ie, simply rebels so either nobles or villains that stand by themselves imposing their rule on their lands or simply bandits marauding (depending on whether they are in a settlement or not).

    So, while I see the OOC jusitification of the move proposed by Braden, I think it makes no IC sense... Hence, Philippe's opposition to it...

    I can't think of a single instance when a conquering army on a winning spree and certainly with more to come would abandon its gains and withdraw without having drawn a single benefit...
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    On a historical level, it is worth noting that the Scots didn't wear kilts until the 1500s. It's yet another factual headache caused by Braveheart...


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    Yes, but they certainly do in M2TW... Hence, Philippe's reference to it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng View Post
    On the question of rebels, I see them as they are, ie, simply rebels so either nobles or villains that stand by themselves imposing their rule on their lands or simply bandits marauding (depending on whether they are in a settlement or not).

    So, while I see the OOC jusitification of the move proposed by Braden, I think it makes no IC sense... Hence, Philippe's opposition to it...

    I can't think of a single instance when a conquering army on a winning spree and certainly with more to come would abandon its gains and withdraw without having drawn a single benefit...
    Aye, but if we agreed all the time...how boring would that be! I've found a sentient argument I can hold IC that's completely counter to many in the council and I'm gonna hang on to it like a pit-bull on a rope!
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    And I'll be sure to put a muzzle on that pit-bull

    Good doggy... Good doggy...
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    Replaced one of my many battle reports placeholders...

    Working on the rest...
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    Well after a thoroughly unpleasant three days, I'm feeling better, antibiotics are wonderful things.

    The history should be up to date. If I've missed anything, let me know. As always suggestions and links to memorable portions of the game are welcome. Between being Seneschal and my illness, I haven't been as eagle-eyed as usual the past term.

    Also I see the role of the Loyal Opposition has passed on to another member of Lorraine, further cementing our claim to the title of "House Most Likely to be a Smoking Ruin in the Near Future".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng View Post
    Replaced one of my many battle reports placeholders...

    Working on the rest...
    If you continue this way you will loose your title: King of Placeholders!

    OK, good to see you back!

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    Thanks IK.

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    Dear House of Lorraine,

    This is just a note to let you know that respectful opposition to my inevitable ascension is tolerable only so long as it is also a failure. Keep this in mind in the coming days.

    All the best,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramses II CP View Post
    Dear House of Lorraine,

    This is just a note to let you know that respectful opposition to my inevitable ascension is tolerable only so long as it is also a failure. Keep this in mind in the coming days.

    All the best,

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    I get the uncomfortable yet excitingly tingly feeling that there will be a Reckoning (note the capital R) when Louis becomes King.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramses II CP View Post
    Dear House of Lorraine,

    This is just a note to let you know that respectful opposition to my inevitable ascension is tolerable only so long as it is also a failure. Keep this in mind in the coming days.

    All the best,

    Louis the Lenient

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    Edit: Hmmm, if you lop off the "in": Dauph Louis. The game only has two characters with honorifics, King and Prince. . .There are only two Sith, Master and Apprentice. My God we're through the looking glass here. It's all so clear now.

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    Of all the images of France possible, I didn't think they'd be compared to the empire from Star Wars.


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    You know, really, the reputation of French nobility of the period wouldn't be far off. Mighty warriors, feared the world over, divided at home and often defeated by their own greed or inability to cooperate amongst themselves.

    Not great practitioners of the force though.


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    It seems Proclamation 3.1 won't make it out of committee as there was only one second for it. Louis voiced his "support" for it, but didn't officially second it.

    Or am I missing something?

    Edit: It would also be helpful if players could tally their influence and include it on their SoT post.
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    Also, it was clearly stated IC by Philip that he was reconsidering it and would resubmit a revised version of it.

    That's not occurred within the timeframe.

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    Don't worry... The Emperor will have the last word... MUHAHAHAHAHA !!! (Or will try at least...)
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    Hmmmm..

    (quietly plans THE longest posting in the history of PBeM's)

    ...pretty sure I can talk for an entire session.
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