Cold war Crisis. [Concluded] [Archive] - Page 6

Death is yonder

08-08-2009, 07:02

Beskar has taken over the USA and Iran is now NPC... Well this is certainly interesting.

That is certainly very interesting... and not exactly very good at all.

If Beskar acts the way he thinks I will, Russia will be in stalemate/defeat.

Hmm :yes:

I'll leave you to ponder that.

Really..... I would hate to have to sink to that depth. You sure we can't do this alone. :beam: I have ways.......

But, Back to Russia, I still hate him.....

Aww, just cause I roleplay a big meanie doesn't mean you still have to hate me.

Hate that transcends the mortal life :drama2::drama2:

And, NATO will win if russia starts WW3 because we have more countries so even if they press the button some of us will still be alive while all of them are dead.

O RLY?

Do you know how MANY nukes we have?

Well granted, we can't nuke every square kilometer of your countryside, but lets see your nation start fighting back when all they have is... farmland...farmland...and pitchforks.

And who said Russia would START WW3.

One of you probably will on some half-brained excuse about something we did :laugh4:

Meh, Query.

Why are all the Nato players being replaced with active players, and none of the Warsaw members being done so...

This is pretty annoying you know, there are only 4 Warsaw Countries with players, and many Nato countries.

The allies aren't really useful if they're just gonna sit there with their armies in, spies in, and whatever...

Host Bias :smash:

ULC

08-08-2009, 07:52

Beskar

08-08-2009, 08:55

It is sad to see Britain leave us, I thought we had our special relationships. As per our contract, Trident will not longer have it's missiles serviceable by America and the complications of leaving NATO, means America cannot convince our people assist Britain in it's times of need.

As such, America will be withdrawing it's support, recommends the same for all NATO allies. This includes trade resource agreements.

America in the future, would be willing to extend of friendship once again, however, America must respect Britain decision and allow it to continue such a cause of action, with us or the support of NATO.

America withdrawal of their forces and support of Britain commences.

Beskar

08-08-2009, 11:48

President Gaius Beskar, will announce the opinions of the American people,

> America condemns the East German invasion of Austria. America calls for East Germany to withdraw imminently.

> On the Middle East, America would like stability in the region, as disruption is bad for the people, trade and commence. America calls the nations of the Arabian Horde and the nations of the Non-Alignment Pact to start a procedure of cease-fire.

> On the election of a new President of Turkey, America feels that this new leader will be more co-operative with the aims and interests of NATO and will be seeking talks and restoring the nation to its former glory.

> America so far as found no implications of Israel state being involved with the destruction of the Dome of the Rock. Therefore, the state of Israel still maintains the full support of the United States of America.

Zim

08-08-2009, 12:07

slashandburn

08-08-2009, 12:43

I agree, the fighting in the Middle East is pointless.

slashandburn

08-08-2009, 12:45

France is civilized, this was a chevochet, a long term raid designed to cripple piracy in Somalia and MERCHANTS :inquisitive: trading what i might ask ,food and timber to pirates ?

slashandburn

08-08-2009, 12:49

Czechoslovakia knows Russia has at least 5,000 warheads. Every warhead covers at least 10,00 sq.miles.

France only has 260,558 sq.miles. Russia needs only a fraction of it's arsenal to reduce France to radioactive wasteland, and if that is not enough, Cobalt Bombs will work.

In my post, I said NATO, not France, the whole point of a nuclear arsenal is to be able to nuke a country or 5 in Russia's case into oblivion. This was another reason NATO and The Warsaw Pact were created.

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-08-2009, 17:23

Aww, just cause I roleplay a big meanie doesn't mean you still have to hate me.

Hate that transcends the mortal life :drama2::drama2:

Considering you have been funding the IRA, then yes (please don't give me the whole, It wasn't me! Investigations were held, they were your agents). It does transcend mortal life. Perhaps if you want respect you should show it to others. If you want britain to stop being your mortal enemy I think you need to re think your plans.

slashandburn

08-08-2009, 17:24

The turn is over.

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-08-2009, 17:29

Greyblades is not online, so I assume we won't get anything back till he and Atpg go over it all, as usual :bow:

Greyblades

08-08-2009, 17:32

Um its GMT +1 I've still got a half hour to go.

Death is yonder

08-08-2009, 17:36

Considering you have been funding the IRA, then yes (please don't give me the whole, It wasn't me! Investigations were held, they were your agents). It does transcend mortal life. Perhaps if you want respect you should show it to others. If you want britain to stop being your mortal enemy I think you need to re think your plans.

Well, if you want the truth, we tried, but they shot us to bits, surely you should be applauding them for their valiant efforts? :clown::smash:

But I still say the Somalian incidents weren't me.

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-08-2009, 17:40

:tongue: You see, honesty is all I am asking for. Now I hate you slightly less. Of course, it does not make up for the fact you were trying to supply a terrorist organization to ATTACK ME!

You would not have a hand in these riots would you? :inquisitive:

Perhaps now we can have a civilized conversation between us ehhh?

Death is yonder

08-08-2009, 18:01

Nope, I'm guessing its just likely the increased NPC action/ rebel groups that he uses to further his purposes.

Greyblades

08-08-2009, 18:15

Turns over.

Centurion1

08-08-2009, 19:12

If nato withdraws all trade with Britain the nap withdraws alll trade with nato

White_eyes:D

08-08-2009, 19:17

no lose there...:yes:

Askthepizzaguy

08-08-2009, 19:20

OK writeup to come.

by the way, fellows, I can't go on doing these writeups, I'm hosting two games and Capo has started. I need someone to replace me. Volunteers?

Centurion1

08-08-2009, 19:24

I supply half of the worlds luxury goods. I think your people will be realtively angry.

White_eyes:D

08-08-2009, 19:32

You lose out as well..:shrug:
"No guts, no glory":yes:

Edit: My bonus also resupplies troops faster:yes:

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-08-2009, 20:00

OK writeup to come.

by the way, fellows, I can't go on doing these writeups, I'm hosting two games and Capo has started. I need someone to replace me. Volunteers?

hhhhmmmmmm..... I would be able and willing to do it. But I am gone for a week, and I do have a slight bias :tongue:

Askthepizzaguy

08-08-2009, 20:20

fortunately the thing gets sent to Greyblades, so if your bias is detected, he can whack you on the head and have you redo it. :laugh4:

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-08-2009, 20:21

Ok then, I am up to it. Although as I said, I am gone next week and will not be able to do it then.

Can I start calling the news BBC? :beam:

Caius

08-08-2009, 21:45

Ok so I been a lurker, yet East Germany has posted almost nothing, West Germany has posted nothing, Italy has posted nothing, Portugal has posted nothing, yet they are players.

Talking about lurkers. At least give me a country, like Argentina. Talking about lurkers...

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-08-2009, 21:46

Actually Portugal and Italy are being replaced.

(maybe you can take Portugal.....)

Beskar

08-08-2009, 21:54

If nato withdraws all trade with Britain the nap withdraws alll trade with nato

The United States of America, wishes to remind China, that if the NAP to decides to adopt an aggressive stance, NATO and its allies will withdraw all trade and possible future support from NAP and it's member states.

Britain made it's stance clear when he left NATO through the back-door and declined a very generous offer, making insulting remarks about members of this great alliance that it doesn't want any relations with us. NATO is simply allowing Britain has made clear it into a reality, and as such, we are withdrawing all support and commence.

The new president, Gaius Beskar, has also ruled in on sides of issues which are also favourable to the NAP, even instructing a close friend of the American people to lay down their arms and retreat unconditionally. Gaius Beskar has also declared American support for a cease-fire in the Middle East, where the NAP is currently at war, to prevent the lives of your soldiers dying in a bloodshed which has occurred on both sides.

The United States of America and it's NATO allies has no ill will towards the members of the NAP, however, as you know, actions have consequences. You cannot have your cake and eat it, as such, Britain no longer has the warm cosy fireplace in a cabin, that is NATO, to hide behind during the Cold Winter, by its own will. Britain chose the NAP over NATO and it's allies which have supported it for many years and we been more than generous with our offer. Britain still chose the path it now took, as such, it can no longer expect the unwavering support that NATO once offered it, as now, it as you, the NAP, to do it in our stead.

So on this final note, President Gaius Beskar, hopes China reconsiders taking such rash actions, and instead, work on a prosperous future.

Caius

08-08-2009, 21:56

Maybe you want to PM me Beskar.

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-08-2009, 22:01

The United States of America, wishes to remind China, that if the NAP to decides to adopt an aggressive stance, NATO and its allies will withdraw all trade and possible future support from NAP and it's member states.

Britain made it's stance clear when he left NATO through the back-door and declined a very generous offer, making insulting remarks about members of this great alliance that it doesn't want any relations with us. NATO is simply allowing Britain has made clear it into a reality, and as such, we are withdrawing all support and commence.

The new president, Gaius Beskar, has also ruled in on sides of issues which are also favourable to the NAP, even instructing a close friend of the American people to lay down their arms and retreat unconditionally. Gaius Beskar has also declared American support for a cease-fire in the Middle East, where the NAP is currently at war, to prevent the lives of your soldiers dying in a bloodshed which has occurred on both sides.

The United States of America and it's NATO allies has no ill will towards the members of the NAP, however, as you know, actions have consequences. You cannot have your cake and eat it, as such, Britain no longer has the warm cosy fireplace in a cabin, that is NATO, to hide behind during the Cold Winter, by its own will. Britain chose the NAP over NATO and it's allies which have supported it for many years and we been more than generous with our offer. Britain still chose the path it now took, as such, it can no longer expect the unwavering support that NATO once offered it, as now, it as you, the NAP, to do it in our stead.

So on this final note, President Gaius Beskar, hopes China reconsiders taking such rash actions, and instead, work on a prosperous future.

I made my choice everyone. If US is going to withdraw all trade from all NATO members that is well within his rights. NAP has no reason to get involved. I wish you all a good day and hope that Britains choices do not cause any incidents on a international scale.

Greyblades

08-08-2009, 22:18

Beskar

08-08-2009, 22:24

(I sent my orders in now, I hope they are ok Greyblades. To make it fair, they are only in relation to what I asked about before the deadline. I had plans for other actions, but they can await till next turn.)

Beskar

08-08-2009, 22:32

I made my choice everyone. If US is going to withdraw all trade from all NATO members that is well within his rights. NAP has no reason to get involved. I wish you all a good day and hope that Britains choices do not cause any incidents on a international scale.

America is glad to see that Britain accepts the consequences of it's actions. As always, America is always sad to lose a friend, so make sure you write and call, time to time. If you ever want a spot in the warm cozy cabin which is NATO, you know where you can find us.

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-08-2009, 22:48

I am sure you will understand when I refuse such a request. :bow:, I shall not turn my back on those who need me.

White_eyes:D

08-08-2009, 22:54

I am wondering if it is such a good idea to trade with anyone outside of NATO...:sweatdrop:

My trade good restores 20% of a nations army each turn...and gives a bonus to morale...:2thumbsup:

I suppose I will see how next turn goes...:smash:

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-08-2009, 22:55

wait.... what? Is there a reason this was not working for me when Ichigo was Italy? if that had happened would I not have some of my armies restored all ready?

White_eyes:D

08-08-2009, 23:03

He didn't send in his orders:wink:

Edit:But Russia and China have huge army's....20% to them would be like a huge boost...

Beskar

08-08-2009, 23:32

India suggests a summit between the nations of the Middle Eastern Horde and the nations of the NAP. The disruptions and religious conflict in the area have reached a head with current events, and it is time we all focus on ending the internal conflicts within our nations, which could consume us if ignored.

We also plan to raise money to help the wartorn country of Somalia, its ports which provided a livelihood for far more legitamate merchants than pirates having been razed to the ground by a so-called "civilized" nation.

United States of America would like to be involved in both of these talks as they concern NATO members. President Gaius Beskar will clearly state what his intentions are, right here, for the public to see.

In the Middle Eastern Peace Progress, United States of America would like to join the discussion in support of both Israel and Turkey. The previous President was soft-handed in this matter, however, President Gaius Beskar, would like to see Turkey restored its former possessions and rights returned to pre-"Baby Eater" leadership, since the Leadership of the Nation has been replaced. America comes in supporting the new leadership in giving them a fair chance and reassurances to all powers involved that Turkey will not without support of NATO, or face consequences internally. America also in support of Israel would want their situation in the Middle East secure. America personal investigations has so far concluded that this wasn't an action supported or even aware until the very last moments by the Israeli government before they could even act themselves on this terrorism. We have links to where the attacks might have originated from, but we ask for patience in this matter as we obtain the results.

In regards to Somalia, United States of America offers support in rebuilding their merchant navy to allow their economy to flourish. However, in return for aid, Somalia must ensure piracy doesn't occur against an NATO power.

Beskar

08-08-2009, 23:36

President Gauis Beskar has been informed that Czechoslavakia is going to attack Russia.

Greyblades

08-09-2009, 00:07

I should realy stop dropping hints on whats going to happen.

pevergreen

08-09-2009, 00:13

:laugh4:

I'm here Caius, my orders just dont get accepted.

Speaking of that, I should probably submit orders.

Beskar

08-09-2009, 00:21

President Gauis Beskar has been informed that Czechoslavakia is going to attack Russia.

I should realy stop dropping hints on whats going to happen.
:oops:

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-09-2009, 00:23

:oops:

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

wait, the Czechs are legitimately attacking Russia? :inquisitive: YLC has a death wish.

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 00:49

Sounds like YLC..:juggle2:
He is a snake in the grass....ten times more evil then me:evil:
But he sure has a ambitious goal this time...:sweatdrop:

DIY better protect your leader or you are gone:beam:

Beefy187

08-09-2009, 00:51

President Gauis Beskar has been informed that Czechoslavakia is going to attack Russia.

We might as well all surrender at once.

The world is going to turn into the United States of Czechoslovakia and we can do nothing about it

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 00:53

BANZAI!!!!!!

Edit:I misspelled it but you get the picture:clown:

ULC

08-09-2009, 01:06

Czechoslovakia does not like the fact that others think Czechoslovakia disloyal. Czechoslovakia has not nor will never entertain the thought of attacking Mother Russia. Czechoslovakia has become irritated lately by the lies of NATO hidden behind the guise of peaceful entreaties.

However, Czechoslovakia will admit to interfering in Austria, insuring that NATO spies do not attempt sabotage wilst East Germany comes to an agreement. Czechoslovakia asks pardon if this results in any East German or Austrian deaths.

slashandburn

08-09-2009, 01:18

Asks Pardon?:inquisitive: The Checkoslovakians are apparently unconcerned with the deaths of innocent austrians and east germans.

ULC

08-09-2009, 01:28

Asks Pardon?:inquisitive: The Checkoslovakians are apparently unconcerned with the deaths of innocent austrians and east germans.

Czechoslovakia is indeed concerned, but if it occurs, Czechoslovakia wishes to ask for forgiveness, for failing in it's duties.

Now, Czechoslovakia must go buy groceries at Super Walmart. As you can see, even now Amerikan spies and culture invade, and Czechoslovakia must remain ever vigilant! Silence greeter of Walmart! Czechoslovakia is on to you!

OOC: Serious, have things to do, groceries to buy :laugh4:

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 01:31

YLC, I am on to you...:wink: I know you plan on killing the leader of Russia....personally that's a pipe dream with all the guards he has in place:laugh4: (I know...I spied on him for two turns until I needed them for Iran...:juggle2:)

Death is yonder

08-09-2009, 02:21

Just gotta love what's going to happen.

Killing Russia's leader? I don't see that happening in the foreseeable future :yes:

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 02:31

Well....it's just a guess...because I really don't think he could beat Russia Militarily...:shrug:

Edit:Only other thing I could think of is he is going to invade with China...:inquisitive:

Death is yonder

08-09-2009, 02:47

Bartender! I'd like to have what the Italian Prime Minister is drinking!

:pleased:

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 03:00

:laugh4: I was only trying to think on how he could beat you...:shrug:

Have some Polish Vodka:evilgrin:

slashandburn

08-09-2009, 04:17

Is write-up coming soon?

Death is yonder

08-09-2009, 04:35

Patience is a virtue, especially with our lead writer: ATPG, seeking a temporary hiatus from the write ups due to participation in other games, as well as hosting his own.

:bow:

Askthepizzaguy

08-09-2009, 07:44

I've fired off the writeups to the host, he just needs to check em.

Greyblades

08-09-2009, 10:10

More like wake up and then try to check them without falling asleep again.

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-09-2009, 12:44

Greyblades, if you could send my end of the turn results to both me and centurion that would be great, the orders I am giving him rely on one of my espionage actions to go through.

Beskar

08-09-2009, 13:01

Greyblades, if you could send my end of the turn results to both me and centurion that would be great, the orders I am giving him rely on one of my espionage actions to go through.

President Gaius Beskar hopes these actions are not attacks on the American people.

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-09-2009, 13:02

President Gaius Beskar hopes these actions are not attacks on the American people.

uuuhhhhhh why would it be? :no: why do all the superpowers assume everything is about them... First Russia, now you. If you must know its a group very close to home, who I have allowed to exist for to long.

Death is yonder

08-09-2009, 13:14

uuuhhhhhh why would it be? :no: why do all the superpowers assume everything is about them... First Russia, now you. If you must know its a group very close to home, who I have allowed to exist for to long.

Sorry if our superiority offends you Britain :bounce:

Hmm.. that would either be France, or Britain itself, or perhaps the IRA... or maybe even the Middle East eh?

Russia is eagerly awaiting the write up :uneasy::worried:

:computer::russia::russia:

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-09-2009, 13:32

Sorry if our superiority offends you Britain :bounce:

Hmm.. that would either be France, or Britain itself, or perhaps the IRA... or maybe even the Middle East eh?

Russia is eagerly awaiting the write up :uneasy::worried:

:computer::russia::russia:

you see! this is why I have an irrational hatred of you. Its all your fault...... :whip: (and I said a group, not a country)

Death is yonder

08-09-2009, 14:25

you see! this is why I have an irrational hatred of you. Its all your fault...... :whip: (and I said a group, not a country)

You mean its not rational? Its not warranted? Its just you and your irritability? :shocked2:

Oh my, British Diplomat, you are attacking the IRA!!

*scribbles warning letter swiftly*

:beam:

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-09-2009, 14:33

You mean its not rational? Its not warranted? Its just you and your irritability? :shocked2:

Oh my, British Diplomat, you are attacking the IRA!!

*scribbles warning letter swiftly*

:beam:

Then again, I don't really consider you to be a country Russia. Maybe I am attacking you?:inquisitive:

and....... Jerk...........

Greyblades

08-09-2009, 15:58

I am aware that I've probably forgotten something and seeing as I realy do not want to trudge through those PM's again your going to have to remind me.
Day 7 July 1st 1981

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ClipArt-Newspaper1.jpg

Soviet Union invades China!

In a stunning development, the Soviet Union invaded the People's Republic of China, prompting a war between communists! The Soviets invaded en masse after a barrage of artillery fire and bombing raids, but were held up 100 miles south of the Soviet-Chinese border by the Chinese army. Naval forces have also pushed in from the north, going around Japan and flanking from the south. This war does not look like it will be over soon.

Soviet Union invades British South Africa!

A second front is opened between the Soviet Union and the members of the NAP, as the Soviets invade British-held South Africa. The overwhelmed British forces are forced to retreat as they are outnumbered at a ratio of five to one. Russian bombers, artillery and combat battalions moved in, and now occupy much of the country. If there was any question as to whether the Soviets could fight a war on two fronts, that question has been answered now.

With these stunning developments, most of the world is now embroiled in what may come to be called World War Three; that is, if there are any of us left to tell the tale.

Eastern Germany invaded by Czechs, W. Germans

Czech forces assaulted East Germany, taking heavy casualties and were eventually repelled by East German forces. However, East Germany was invaded by the West, and the East was overwhelmed. Warsaw pact nations all have declared war against Czechoslovakia and threaten NATO as well if they do not withdraw immediately from East German territory. At this time, it is unclear whether or not NATO forces will withdraw from East Germany, and spokesmen from several European governments could not be reached for comment. As these extraordinary developments continue, there will be further updates.

French Forces withdraw from Somalia

In an interesting reversal, the invading French army withdrew peacefully from Somali territory, possibly in order to appease rising anti-French sentiment in the global community. The local government still has not restored itself to power, and the vacuum of authority has led to further lawlessness and piracy. It may be some time before Somalia is restored as a full-fledged nation.

Leaders of the IRA terminated by special forces

Many leaders of the group known as the IRA were located and destroyed after an aggressive campaign by British special forces, likely in response to rising acts of terrorism by the revolutionary group. It was not immediately clear who would replace those leaders, or if the IRA would call off its actions once and for all.

https://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8868/map7n.jpg

Death is yonder

08-09-2009, 16:07

This is all very interesting! :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

Khazaar

08-09-2009, 16:19

I can´t believe what flak I got for securing Austria and having to argue with the host and now I´m invaded as a player nation without direct agression? Anyway, whatever...

Push the Button! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0C7NhXffKw

Greyblades

08-09-2009, 16:22

Yes they attacked you unprovoked and ended up with the rest of Warsaw turning on them.

Death is yonder

08-09-2009, 16:29

Oh Britain, you must be regretting leaving the umbrella of protection that Nato gave to you :laugh4::laugh4:

Soviet Union invades China!

In a stunning development, the Soviet Union invaded the People's Republic of China, prompting a war between communists! The Soviets invaded en masse after a barrage of artillery fire and bombing raids, but were held up 100 miles south of the Soviet-Chinese border by the Chinese army. Naval forces have also pushed in from the north, going around Japan and flanking from the south. This war does not look like it will be over soon.

Aww.. no insta gib :smash:

With these stunning developments, most of the world is now embroiled in what may come to be called World War Three; that is, if there are any of us left to tell the tale.

:2thumbsup::2thumbsup::2thumbsup:

Viva La World War III!!

Oh and greyblades, I still can't push the button can I?

What are the criteria for pushing the button legitimately :yes:

:smash:

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 16:30

Ouch....invading someone never pans out Khazzered:bounce:

Russia is invading China huh?? I need to admit, I am not feeling sorry for NAP:bow:

Greyblades

08-09-2009, 16:47

Oh and greyblades, I still can't push the button can I?

What are the criteria for pushing the button legitimately :yes:

:smash:

2/3rds of your lands taken and being attacked by an enemy with twice as many troops I.E a near no win situation.

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 16:51

You know, I don't know if it is such a good idea to allow him to have a "sore-loser policy"...
I mean if he starts losing he well just blow up the planet....but he is starting a massive war:juggle2:
My guess is his own people might kill him to STOP THE WAR....not continue it and get themselves killed:inquisitive:

Edit:My guess is even his own people would start rebelling by now...(even by Russian standards:yes:)

Death is yonder

08-09-2009, 16:52

2/3 of my land? Twice as many troops as me?
Looks like I'm never going to be using my nukes again... :cry:

:thinking2:

I need to admit, I am not feeling sorry for NAP

Well.. they were kinda asking for it.

Creating a "non alignment pact" which is an alliance seems kinda ironic to me... more like a pretext for war...

And I didn't really quite like how easily he got away with invading Bhutan :beam:

Edit:
You know, I don't know if it is such a good idea to allow him to have a "sore-loser policy"...
I mean if he starts losing he well just blow up the planet....but he is starting a massive war

You know, seriously, if I was losing, I would prefer to win the enemy without using the nukes. Seems more fun and challenging, nuking would just suck to fun out of it....

Greyblades

08-09-2009, 17:01

2/3 of my land? Twice as many troops as me?
Looks like I'm never going to be using my nukes again... :cry:

:thinking2:

Well.. they were kinda asking for it.

Creating a "non alignment pact" which is an alliance seems kinda ironic to me... more like a pretext for war...

And I didn't really quite like how easily he got away with invading Bhutan :beam:

Edit:

You know, seriously, if I was losing, I would prefer to win the enemy without using the nukes. Seems more fun and challenging, nuking would just suck to fun out of it....

Well thats for using all your nukes. Single strikes may be easier to get approval.

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 17:05

I think...you should have DIY killed by his generals at those two conditions and peace offered by them, to avoid a nuclear war...(AKA restore the land and withdraw from Russian or be destroyed..:bow:)

It just breaks this game, if he can declare on whoever he wants and still win if all else fails:furious3:

Greyblades

08-09-2009, 17:07

Because they're russians and they think they can win?
Why are you complaining that your two main adversaries are killing each other?

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 17:30

It is broken if DIY can declare on anyone, without worrying about any negative results....(I mean for crying out loud...he declared on a fellow commie...:furious3:)

Nationalism can only take you so far I am afraid...If he starts losing, I can 100% tell you he well be arrested or shot....he would not be able to push the button, as his generals would be using it to come out with a favorable peace...:furious3:

Up until now I have figured you call it correctly...:bow: but if you allow Russia to nuke the planet based upon the reasons of one man....Then you are seriously biased:no:

And of course I am happy about them killing each other...:inquisitive:

Greyblades

08-09-2009, 17:35

Apart from the fact that communism was the only thing they liked about each other? Russia and China werent exactly buddy buddy at the time and even though their relations had cooled off abit since the 50's-70's they still had a bit of bad blood between them so it wasnt that unbeleivable that they would be fighting.

Death is yonder

08-09-2009, 17:40

It is broken if DIY can declare on anyone, without worrying about any negative results....(I mean for crying out loud...he declared on a fellow commie...:furious3:)

Firstly, we haven't been all chummy, we aren't even in an alliance! Its like saying, you declared war on a fellow democracy, you should die... :juggle2::juggle2:

Any negative results? That remains to be seen, the results have barely been posted 2 hours ago, public opinion has yet to be gauged.

Nationalism can only take you so far I am afraid...If he starts losing, I can 100% tell you he well be arrested or shot....he would not be able to push the button, as his generals would be using it to come out with a favorable peace...:furious3:

You speak as if you are going to cause it yourself. Firstly, if I would to win every engagement, every step of the way in a war, it would frankly just be too imbalanced. Naturally there would be set backs and if the generals betray me at the first sign of losing, then they are either, fools, or manipulated by you people. You forget the psychological ideal, what sane general would betray Russia, or convince his fellows to betray Russia as well, when they would be marked as a huge traitor to the Motherland, and any resistance group would clearly expend their efforts to kill them. Nationalism can only take me so far, true, but I have not crossed the line, not by far.

Up until now I have figured you call it correctly...:bow: but if you allow Russia to nuke the planet based upon the reasons of one man....Then you are seriously biased:no:

Its called communism no? Not democracy? We have conceded more liberties to the people over the years, but 1 man still decides it all. Democracy is almost the same. People in America want to nuke Japan (WW2), who did they ask? The president. They just go through more processes, but the end result is the same. Anyway, I have already said, what would be the fun in nuking the planet? Surely it would be more fun to conquer the planet with sheer manpower and force, rather than nuking it into submission.

And of course I am happy about them killing each other...:inquisitive:

Naturally... so why are you complaining?

:bow:

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 17:47

Because if you lose your going to nuke us....:inquisitive:

This game is broken if Russia loses yet can still win by nuking us all....:furious3:

Greyblades

08-09-2009, 17:52

I doubt that the war would last that long, its probably going to go on until one side surrenders and secceeds some land to the victor. Or at least thats what a NPC would do.

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 18:04

But we are dealing with humans PLAYERS......I think that's a forgone conclusion that this well not end until Russia or China are conquered:laugh4:

Edit:
In September 1976, Mao died. A month later, the Gang of Four were overthrown by his successor, Chairman Hua Guofeng, with the support of Deng Xiaoping, who was to soon implement pro-market economic reform. With the PRC no longer espousing the anti-revisionist notion of the antagonistic contradiction between classes, relations between the two countries became gradually normalized. They were pretty normal in the 1980's:smash:

Centurion1

08-09-2009, 18:19

I am going to lose this war in the greatest probability. china will fight on however.

Russia i am disappointed. We never even led any sabotage against you......
I hope i can weaken you enough that America crushes you.

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 18:22

We can't do that unless We want to set the world on fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZKKq7JBzPs&feature=related):brood:

Centurion1

08-09-2009, 18:33

White eyes i do not see why you hate me so much. true we were not friends when you were turkey but you are maing it personal

Oh and i was rash in revoking my trade from nato. i return it, but i do not require them to give me their trade.

Russia, i was leaving bhutan next turn. why does no one believe me when i say i was restoring the dragon king. i even asked you guys if i could invade.

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 18:44

I am sorry....nuclear war is not worth anything...I hope it can be addressed some time by greyblades:whip:

But Beskar might have something to say....who knows??:juggle2:

I need to worry about WARSAW....I am thinking of taking out the Czechs...but I need USA to boot West Germany from NATO or else I will be fighting all of them:thumbsdown:

Centurion1

08-09-2009, 18:47

Russia is the one who threatened nuclear war? I never even mentioned it. The real reason i am mad at russia for invading is because it may ruin the game.

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 18:57

Even if say...USA declare war on Russia...that would equal=Nukes and DIY wins:smash:

As far as I can see....DIY will win no matter what the out come....it's like this game is designed so Russia will win....look at the points:book:

1.He gets more then 2x armies fighting him...he nukes=he wins:help:

2.He beats you and takes over your country=he wins, gets more armies with no negative drawbacks:help:

3.He gets beaten back to Moscow and still can Nuke everyone since he is a Russian leader who is Infallible...His generals and people well follow him to the grave...not caring that they kill them selves:inquisitive: (Yeah after Afghanistan.....most of the Russian leaders were on thin ice...:rolleyes:)

4.He wins no matter what the out come may be:shrug:

Greyblades

08-09-2009, 19:09

Not realy seeing if he nukes its game over and everyone dies in armageddon including him.

Centurion1

08-09-2009, 19:13

so sorry but you are wrong. He invades me, big mistake. He did not heed my warning. I am an infallible leader. just as much as Russia's leader. He beats me back no big deal. I have nuclear weapons. I nuke him America cleans up the ashes. Now i don't want to but i will if necessary. I have more than enough nuclear weapons to destroy Russia 50 times over. Now none of this needs to happen if he withdraws and signs an agreement not to war with me for a set number of turns (at least 10).

The nap is obviously wishing to be closer to nato than warsaw. This has always been true. Britain has left and for legitimate reasons. Let us step past that and deal with the red menace. The time for insults against each other is over. It is now time to act.

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 19:37

I am going to seek Beskar's approval on this...but like I said...we can't have more then 2x armies fighting him or NUKES!!!!! and death:skull:

So I think NATO is only going to deal with the "WARSAW" incident...:yes:

Centurion1

08-09-2009, 19:53

I am taking this conversation to pm italy.

slashandburn

08-09-2009, 20:01

I for one am willing to accept trade with china, pm me if you wish.

Centurion1

08-09-2009, 20:37

Thank you france. you are taking a very kind approach in this. now that you have left Somalia we have no quarrel, though i wish you could be friends with britain as well.

Oh i am filling in for britain for the next week. so if you wish to pm him about anything i will be handling it. Thank you for your cooperation.

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 20:55

I approve of trade...but I am not fighting Russia because of the "Sore Loser" Policy that is in place:bow:

I have more urgent fish to fry:wall:

Centurion1

08-09-2009, 20:58

i would rather this had never happened. i wish we had no nuclear abilities in this game because as soon as a superpower gets angry they will just fire off some nukes. And russia just invaded two nuclear powers? It was just stupid move.

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 21:08

I know....what's to stop them from using there "Sore loser" policy??:inquisitive:

The Russian's are acting like they don't care about Nuclear war...:juggle2:

Beskar

08-09-2009, 21:32

President Gaius Beskar is disappointed in this turn of events. It is time for the Voice of the American People to comment.

America Makes Announcements

> America thanks the nations of Warsaw for recognising NATO non-involvement in the matter of West Germany and wasn't too rash in declaring war. The leadership of West Germany formally declined invitation to the NATO submit. NATO, in communications with the USSR, have revealed plans of a "Central European Defense Initiative" which was believed to possess the members Cezechoslavakia, East Germany and West Germany. With this turn of events, it is clear we are 2/3rd's correct in our intelligence reports. On further note, our communications with Austria have been cut off, NATO isn't pleased with this foreign affiar issue, therefore, America, on behalf of NATO, will release these statements.

America and NATO allies will forcefully remove the government of pevergreen out of power if it does not withdraw it's forces from East Germany and surrender unconditionally, imminently.

NATO demands the withdrawals of all foreign forces from Austria.

With both of these issues, NATO requests the Warsaw powers to assist them, by dealing with Czechoslovakia and assure that East Germany withdraws from Austria. (Hopefulyl Greyblades pretending to be Warsaw finds this response very appropriate.)

> America are pleased with the actions of French in their withdrawal of Somalia. However, NATO would like communications with Somalian government in regards to dealing with it's internal issues, if they would like our assistance.

> NATO condemns the actions of the USSR. At the submit, we have now reached a consensus.

NATO cannot intervene on this matter, in its interests of its own national security. NATO, however, will be sending forces to monitor the situation, protecting NATO's members and allies. NATO cautions both NAP and USSR against any actions against NATO members.

> NATO is displeased with NAP's actions in regards to the Middle East. NATO respectfully asked for there to be ceasefire talks in the region, and for the NAP to respect the national boundaries of Turkey. These boundaries were not respected.

NATO demands withdrawal of NAP forces from Turkey's soil. NATO is also deemed Turkies treaty with the Arabian Horde forces as invalidated and demands the withdrawal of all Turkish troops. Turkey will be restored to its boundaries pre-period of "White_Eyes:D" leadership.

ULC

08-09-2009, 22:02

WE, ever hear of mutually assured destruction? Basically, Russia cannot use it's nukes without being nuked itself, even in a sore loser engagement, and each major alliance can do the same thing. Second, if one really wanted to screw with people, just make Cobalt Bombs, which are extremely dirty bombs, and are comparatively easy to produce and easy to create mass numbers of, for any country, and allow me to destroy your population centers with ease.

In fact, Czechoslovakia wishes to announce it's formal union with Germany, which has finally been reunited. There are no Czechoslovakian or German troops as of this point, they now belong to the Central European Defense Initiative, which will begin to unite other peaceful nations in Central Europe and the Balkans with the intent of freeflow of information and technology - at this point, the CEDI would like to thank China for their underground support for the movement for the last few years.

The CEDI is a purely defensive trade alliance, and not so much an alliance as it is union. We have no interests in Conquest, but if attacked, we will defend ourselves, and as per our charter, reclaim our land and quickly put an end to the fighting once it has started.

As of right now, CEDI now puts out invitations to Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Yugoslavia, Poland, and Romania, as well as Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Bulgaria, Greece, Finland and Albania. Nations that are invited do not have to unite with Germany and Czechoslovakia, but will receive all benefits from joining CEDI. However, CEDI hopes that in time, Most will formally join and union with other member nations.

In this, Czechoslovakia is sad that East Germany refused many offers by CEDI before the incident, but due to the knowledge that Czechoslovakia had gathered, it had deemed this was required, and acted now, rather then later. Czechoslovakia will send proper recompense to those families aggrieved in the short war.

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 22:18

No, I am afraid your not getting away with this YLC:wink:

Italy announces..it is Hostile to any and all attempts by the CEDI to form a Union of Germany.:bow:

We well not have another Adolf Hitler or Kaiser sparking a World War in Europe.

We support WARSAW in it's War against The Czechs and West Germany, as we are washing our hands of them:smash:

Italy and much of NATO, well intervene in Austria in order to prevent a Warmongering Regime from starting another war in Europe..thank you all:beam:

Greyblades

08-09-2009, 22:19

Yeah east germany is still around by the way.

Centurion1

08-09-2009, 22:22

you cannot blame the NAP for pushing the wars borders to turkey. they sided with the anti-mec and must be treated as allies. The nap requested for a ceasefire and the enemy said to kiss their collective butt.

All we want is to have iraq to rebuild ourselves.

[Please asterisk out all swear words instead of substituting them with similar-looking characters - GH]

Beskar

08-09-2009, 22:28

Beskar

08-09-2009, 22:30

you cannot blame the NAP for pushing the wars borders to turkey. they sided with the anti-mec and must be treated as allies. The nap requested for a ceasefire and the enemy said to kiss their collective butt.

All we want is to have iraq to rebuild ourselves.

If you have seen, we actually acting on this. Turkey's troops were forced to act, due to the previous actions of their leader "White_Eyes:D" and Turkey is having a new start.

Turkey is not your enemy and invading Turkish lands does nothing to stop the Horde.

NAP is to return the lands and Turkey won't be acting anymore.

ULC

08-09-2009, 22:35

Oh :wall:

You know what, whatever, have at it. Rape pillage and plunder because you think I have evil intentions, and in doing so, I will trigger all of Czechoslovakia's cobalt bombs as well as the nuclear silos positioned in Czechoslovakia by the Soviet Union, and make most of Europe a barren wasteland. Sound fair? It's not, but I am not lying and I will do so.

What is not also a lie is that this is a Central European Defense Initiative, key words Central European and Defense. Our aims are the proliferation of knowledge and adequate defense for all member nations, as well as allowing such nations to finally govern themselves, no longer prey to the stark predations of any superpower who abuses their position because they have nuclear weapons, as well as their lackeys who sit at heel and wait for a bone to be tossed to them.

Czechoslovakia and Germany are forming a union because this will allow a more effective defense to the obvious hate for people who wish make a stand, instead of kiss :daisy: like Italy. We are not pawns, nor will we be treated as such any longer - we will die a free people, and have retained our dignity in doing so.

I also see that America is averse to losing Germany, even if it would mean Germany is now unified, to CEDI. Blast and darn double standards - gods know that NATO is supposed to be voluntary, and that one of the main points of the Cold War was the unification of Germany, which was espoused by America. Oh, wait, a unified Germany, only in NATO I suppose? How naive of me to think you had such benign intentions.

Again, I state this is a purely progressive alliance, where violence is the last refuge. We have no intentions to begin the persecution of ANYONE, while it seems everyone else is ready to persecute us because we do not follow in lockstep. As such, we will not suffer to again fall under the heel of anyone, this we will promise.

In any case, this is to also explain why Pever left the game - we discussed it in MSN, and we agreed this would be his final act, and I would then control Czechoslovakia and West Germany in full union, with the government of Czechoslovakia dissolving and being replaced by the German Federal Republic.

Centurion1

08-09-2009, 22:43

so what of our demands. We did not ask for this war. we entered with the intention of reform (well actually beskar supposedly did). then we were attacked on all fronts by unreasonable peoples.

I asked for peace. Even as the winning side i was refuted rudely and idiotically.

All we wish for is Iraq to be placed under NAP protection. The anti-mec can have whatever they want aside from that.

WHERE IS THE CONDEMNATION FOR RUSSIA. NATO speaks of ideals but they allow unwarranted aggression to go on. Britain and China were peaceful and did nothing to harm Russia. But like assassins in the night they have entered our lands with the intention of stealing our knowledge and destroying our lands. We ask the world community to give us SOMETHING, anything to support us against such unwarranted aggression. Whether that be troops, trade, or anything else to aid us in our valiant defenses. Look to your own actions before ye be condemned as hypocrites.

You condemn the NAP as hostile, but look and tell me what have we done that is unduly hostile.

Bhutan is being returned to the Dragon king in two phases after he is safe from any future coups.
In the middle east, we invaded to right a wrong. We were attacked by multiple nations. Tell me would you have just sat there and waited for your defenses to be breached. I think not.
We have eased tensions and created a new nation to join the new world order. China, India, and Pakistan banded together and created a new nation.
Britain is now saving millions of South Africans in a massive humanitarian aid campaign.

I ask you Nato..............

What have you done for the world besides causing children to have nightmares about Nuclear warfare, Grown men to die defending your "ideals". Think of your own actions before you go and question ours.

Beskar

08-09-2009, 22:45

Double-Standards is your definition of defence which is overthrowing 3 legitimate nations government, there is also the fact you openly threatening everyone and turning their nations into a barren wasteland.

It seems that Czechoslavakia has long lost the art of diplomatic relations, unless it involves them acquiring the land of other nations.

NATO demands you to immediately surrender unconditionally.

Centurion1

08-09-2009, 22:51

NAP opens talks with the CEDI. (perhaps someone will be willing to aid us.......) since nato seems to be ignoring their primary enemy.

Beskar

08-09-2009, 22:56

so what of our demands. We did not ask for this war. we entered with the intention of reform (well actually beskar supposedly did). then we were attacked on all fronts by unreasonable peoples.

We are well aware of Iran's intentions of overthrowing Saddam Hussein.

I asked for peace. Even as the winning side i was refuted rudely and idiotically.

All we wish for is Iraq to be placed under NAP protection. The anti-mec can have whatever they want aside from that.

WHERE IS THE CONDEMNATION FOR RUSSIA. NATO speaks of ideals but they allow unwarranted aggression to go on. Britain and China were peaceful and did nothing to harm Russia. But like assassins in the night they have entered our lands with the intention of stealing our knowledge and destroying our lands.

We condemned the actions of Russia here - https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2310130&postcount=1354

However, we do not want the start World War 3 or to set the world on fire. Our intelligence resources indicate that China is capable of defending itself from Russian assualt on it's own.

As for NATO actions, NATO has explicit said it will safe-guard all the surrounding nations in the region not involved in this conflict. This is a very generous offer to those nations who NEED our help and otherwise feel helpless.

Look to your own actions before ye be condemned as hypocrites.

There is nothing hypocritical in our statements. We could have simply done nothing, however, we are already acting in the best interests of many helpless nations who might get caught in the crossfire.

I ask you Nato..............

What have you done for the world besides causing children to have nightmares about Nuclear warfare, Grown men to die defending your "ideals". Think of your own actions before you go and question ours.

Hm? President Gaius Beskar has already ordered the withdrawal of France troops from Somalia, offering economic stimulus and even military aid if wanted, involved in investigations related to the Dome of the Rock, President Gaius Beskar is now going to fight for lives of innocents in Europe, threatened by Chinese-backed powers with Cobalt bombs threatening the murder of millions.

President Gaius Beskar is the leader for a new tomorrow, seeking peace and security around the world, even the helpless nations, caught inbetween greedy ambitions of self-proclaimed super powers.

With power comes responsibility, and the United States of America and forces of NATO will be using their powers to do the responsible actions in the world.

White_eyes:D

08-09-2009, 23:00

You have been supporting them for a long time China....now they are trying to turn Central Europe into a barren wasteland:no:

"You reap what you sew":wink:

We are not intimidated by threats...:yes: And we do not negotiate with Terrorists:bow:

Beskar

08-09-2009, 23:01

NAP opens talks with the CEDI.

President Gaius Beskar would like the demonstrate this as an example of Chinese Diplomacy in the world. While it sprouts about how NATO should take responsiblity, it allies and backs forces which threaten the destruction of cities with dirty bombs to get their way.

Notice how China dares accuse NATO, who are trying to safe-guard the lives of innocents, even those not even on the same "side" while China sprouts how we should help in destroying the world, whereas we personally moved troops in the area, safe-guarding innocents who might get hit in the cross-fire.

Let the world be your judge. As President Gaius Beskar, attempts to make a safe and secure future, for everyone.

ULC

08-09-2009, 23:02

President Gaius Beskar will wish to denounce the rash actions of the supposed C.E.D.I.

America wishes to remind people, that this supposed "defence" alliance are far from what they seem. They are actually named the "Central Expansive Destructive Initiative" and their actions reflect this very well.

President Gaius Beskar wishes to announce 3 responses.

Lies and falsehood - East Germany refused on multiple occasions for a fair union into Germany and this was a concerted effort to free Austria from East German influence and remove the corrupt dictatorship that was a mere puppet of the Soviet Union. The German people are now free under one government, as they have been clamoring for since the very end of WWII.

I tire of NATO fearing losing the balance of power and control of the variables, if there is one thing Russia was right about you, is that your an ogre in sheepskin, bullying those around you until they submit and preying upon them when your own ego is starved.

1)

To the nations called out, your territories are already secure. There is nothing to be gained, only things to be lost, by joining this side. As the head of NATO, you have seen the differences in my administration so far, being remarkably different. I call for peace and security, freedom and justice within nations. On my election, I called for France to withdraw immanently, as you can see, this has occurred. My words have weight, my words have power. In efforts to secure the Middle East, I already seen troops and aircraft carriers into the region, to lend weight that America takes the issues of this world seriously, for everyone involved. America, not even involved in the Somalia conflict, is offering aid to the nation, which is not even part of it's alliance. America, it has already called for the withdrawal of troops from the neutral nation of Austria and is going to act.

America, is your friend. I counter-propose what the C.E.D.I has offered your nations. You can either stay out of this matter, declare passive neutrality and NATO will respect your wishes, and if attacked, NATO will work diplomatically for your rights as legitimate governments. Join NATO, and send forces in assisting us, in creating a Europe where children can walk to school safety, without the thread of Czechoslavakian Cobalt bombs, NATO will always fight in your corner, ensuring your voice is always heard, personally guaranteed by myself, President Gaius Beskar.

The only ones we asked were Norway and Denmark, and only as an offer if they so wanted to. If they do not wish to join CEDI, we will not force it upon them, like you did so with France to insure war did not erupt between you and NAP.

Czechoslovakia will also not bomb any other nation besides itself if it comes to it. the Czechoslovakian people are tired of being one nation or another's pawn, as is most of Central Europe, and is evidenced by the formal union of Czechoslovakia and Hungary, which was a direct agreement both nations hid under the guise of peacekeeping, to insure the Soviet Union did not interfere.

Czechoslovakia will not, under any circumstances, fall prey to such "Superpowers" again, and I suggest if you care about your soldiers at all, they will not stray anywhere near Czechoslovakian lands.

2)

America and NATO demands the unconditional surrender of West Germany immanientally,

Czechoslovakia and West Germany are one - and we refuse to unconditionally surrender immediately. Take your Western Imperialism elsewhere.

3)

To the Warsaw powers, such as the USSR, Ukraine, Poland, Belarus. We aren't allies, we aren't even considered friends, but we both respect each other, even though we aren't on the always on the same side.

Such as in the past, our nations worked together to stop evil from coming from a Union of Central Europe, we of NATO, propose to you, again, to be brothers in arms, who put a threat to the lives of innocents, our very children, and future of our nations.

NATO would like full co-operation in restoring the pre-existing boundaries and also seeks permission, if the need arises, for NATO forces to step foot on your previous alliance held territories in-order to restore order which will hand over to you, once this threat has been dealt with.

Yes, maintain the status quo, where you bicker and posture endlessly with the Soviet Union, and each side uses it's nations like puppets. You do not want peace for peaces sake, you want peace enforced by arms, to continue your industrial-military complex upon which your fat, lecherous tycoons sit upon while your own people wither in sadness, constantly controlled and constricted freedom, and you propagate your arms and armor across many nations to fuel wars that you care nothing about, nor do you care for the people at the other end at all or what becomes of them, so long as it turns a profit, and the government smiles at you like a stepford.

Greyblades

08-09-2009, 23:07

Ugh my head is spinning trying to keep up with the walls of text.

ULC

08-09-2009, 23:14

NAP opens talks with the CEDI. (perhaps someone will be willing to aid us.......) since nato seems to be ignoring their primary enemy.

CEDI is willing to open talks of course. As we are willing to do so with all nations, member or not.

However, as a first Act of the CEDI - all troops, of any form save Austrian, have been withdrawn from Austria, and due to the damage East Germany wrecked upon Austria, CEDI is sending thousands of aid workers to help in reconstruction and aid programs have been initiated for Austrian refugees, as well as full CEDI support to each person of Austria should they encounter financially difficult times.

As another course, CEDI will on longer sell it's weaponry to any other nation unless it is on a lend lease program, the nation being sold to requires arms to defend itself, and that at the conclusion of hostilities, the arms and armor are turned to scrap and sold at a reasonable price, with CEDI overseers and the overseers from one other nation, in most circumstances the nation the arms and armor were sold to.

CEDI also will begin a renewable energy program, with Fusion, Solar, Wind, Geothermal, and Tidal technology being at the forefront. CEDI hopes to be fossil fuel free within 25 years, and expects to sell such equipment to others at cheap to no cost.

Beskar

08-09-2009, 23:16

Nations of the Non-Alignment Pact.

The United States of America has formally spoken to the nations which you are at war with. Their version of events are slightly different to your own.

The "Horde" as you have named them, has agreed to a 6-month cease-fire, where-as during this 6 months, discussions will take place in regards to the security and a peaceful solution.

On the 2nd note, NAP is to return Turkish occupied lands.

United States of America urges the Non-Alignment Pact to accept this offer.

pevergreen

08-09-2009, 23:18

(@YLC: I did not say I was giving up control. I said it would be a good idea.)

The leadership of West Germany formally declined invitation to the NATO submit.

A mere typo, or the real deal.

Is NATO a free union, or are the members simply your lap dogs America? I received no invite to the NATO 'summit' of which we presume you speak. You act as though you are our lord.

You show outrage that a warsaw pact aligned nation is taken over by a democracy, and forged into what it was before?

CEDI shall, however, be headed by my other half, I shall be content to bring the german province back to its full stockpile of

Loving and caring families :smitten:

ULC

08-09-2009, 23:21

(@YLC: I did not say I was giving up control. I said it would be a good idea.)

A mere typo, or the real deal.

Is NATO a free union, or are the members simply your lap dogs America? I received no invite to the NATO 'summit' of which we presume you speak. You act as though you are our lord.

You show outrage that a warsaw pact aligned nation is taken over by a democracy, and forged into what it was before?

CEDI shall, however, be headed by my other half, I shall be content to bring the german province back to its full stockpile of

Loving and caring families :smitten:

Forgive me for speaking out of turn for you Chancellor. Czechoslovakia leaves you with the option to leave CEDI if you think it in the best interests of the German people.

Beskar

08-09-2009, 23:25

Is NATO a free union, or are the members simply your lap dogs America? I received no invite to the NATO 'summit' of which we presume you speak.

Yes, you did. All members of NATO have done, as they will testify, as they were there except for you.

aka you social group invite you rejected called "NATO"

pevergreen

08-09-2009, 23:26

Perhaps in public isnt the best way to discuss this...
(I'll still be here, you are leading it though.)

*mutters*americans suck

pevergreen

08-09-2009, 23:27

Yes, you did. All members of NATO have done, as they will testify, as they were there except for you.

aka you social group invite you rejected called "NATO"

Well, if I was informed that a simple social group was a choice of loyalty.

As I see it, I was simply invited to a group. As a rule of thumb, I don't join groups...A simple PM would have fixed that, but it is of no matter.

Russia seems more like a democracy than you lately.

Beskar

08-09-2009, 23:31

Russia seems more like a democracy than you lately.

Says the person who tried to invade the Netherlands?

(also, I asked you over Steam, when we were playing Dawn of War 2)

Also:

America...
America...
America, :daisy: YEAH!
Coming again, to save the :daisy: :daisy: day yeah,
America, :daisy: YEAH!
Freedom is the only way yeah,
Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer too,
America, :daisy: YEAH!
So :daisy: my :daisy:, and :daisy: on my :daisy:,
America, :daisy: YEAH!
What you going to do when we come for you now,
it’s the dream that we all share; it’s the hope for tomorrow

Caius

08-09-2009, 23:36

So I can't get Argentina??? I mean, at least, let me conquer Chile and instaurate *insert communism and or capitalism*

pevergreen

08-09-2009, 23:44

Says the person who tried to invade the Netherlands?

(also, I asked you over Steam, when we were playing Dawn of War 2)

Did you? Probably didn't read it, since you know, i was playing...

Beskar

08-09-2009, 23:45

(You answered: hm... probably not )

Khazaar

08-10-2009, 00:04

Reunification, yeah right. Unrightful attack more like it, but I´m not surprised. There must have been a reason for YLC to take over Poland and Hungary. I can only presume that Death is Yonder freely gave up Europe so that he could withdraw his troops knowing that a nonaligned powerblock would spring into action. That would also explain why he doesn´t give a rat's behind that his ally is under attack...

[Language please - GH]

Beskar

08-10-2009, 00:12

Don't worry, West Germany will pay for its crimes.

Beefy187

08-10-2009, 00:14

Japan is outraged at the recent action taken by the Soviet Union.
I'm afraid my fear for their invasion turned out real after all...

That is why Russian jokes must be taken seriously at least.. I recommend over reacting to every single joke they make.

Any how, as the peace keeper of Asia, I cannot ignore the action taken against the Chinese and our old Friend Britain. You have one round to withdraw from their lands, or else, you will suffer the combined wrath of Japan, Korea and Australia.

Please make the right move Soviet Union, or else, we'll all end up dead.

pevergreen

08-10-2009, 00:18

Oi, no one involves Australia in this. They are firmly kissing up to America, thank you very much.

Beefy187

08-10-2009, 00:20

Oi, no one involves Australia in this. They are firmly kissing up to America, thank you very much.

If they don't fight now, K Rudd in the near future will be unhappy for the dead Chinese.

pevergreen

08-10-2009, 00:22

In 30 years? :grin2:

White_eyes:D

08-10-2009, 00:28

Centurion1

08-10-2009, 00:28

China and Britain thank our dear friend Japan for their loyal and correct support of us.

America we wish to enter talks but we want something guaranteed at first. My allies could easily hold the line while i defend my homelands. Say NAP returns turkish lands if we retain iraqi rebuilding rights. with this initial promise we will accept your proposal.

As to our talks with CEDI. We say that we demand an apology for their crude threats, but say it would be foolish to condemn their research. America, China, and Soviets have just as dangerous weapons. If they make a formal apology then we will enter into lasting talks and perhaps mediate this conflict between the CEDI and the NATO nations.

Whit eye, what are you talking about i never supported the czechs. If you read earlier posts i was one of the few who condemned their actions. I withdrew my trade a long time ago and never gave it back.

And if you dare call me a terrorist..........

White_eyes:D

08-10-2009, 00:35

The Czechs are saying they had got there supplies for you....do you deny this??:inquisitive:

Right within a few posts of saying that they had Cobalt bombs....and something about turning Central Europe in to a "Wasteland"..:thumbsdown:

the CEDI would like to thank China for their underground support for the movement for the last few years.I would like to know what this means?? China??

Caius

08-10-2009, 00:42

I tell ya, move to Argentina. We have water, corruption and money, what else?

*This has been a message of the Ministery of Tourism of Argentina*

pevergreen

08-10-2009, 00:47

The former government of West Germany would also like to thank Britain.

Beskar

08-10-2009, 00:47

Say NAP returns turkish lands if we retain iraqi rebuilding rights. with this initial promise we will accept your proposal.

Iraq is no concern to NATO, it is a concern to the powers you have named the "Horde". We cannot speak on their behalf on that matter. However, we can offer you the deal which we did, which is removal of Turkey from the war with its land reinstated and a cease-fire agreement for you to deal with, where you can discuss those things.

Remember, your allies cannot be supporting you, and also fighting another war on another front. Wouldn't it be wise of China to accept this golden opportunity where it's armies and the armies of its allies can return to their homes or assist in your efforts elsewhere?

Beefy187

08-10-2009, 00:53

In 30 years? :grin2:

In 30 years :beam:

Japanese diplomat stands up and asks permission to speak.

"Aa... Tadaima Maiku no Tesuto Cyuu..."

Which means "Aa... Testing, Testing one two three" or something similer.

Then he started making a speech in Japanese.

"Free people of Asia! Students of Liberty, democracy and peace! For sixty years we enjoyed those privileges. But now those values are at stake. Soviet Union has invaded China, with out giving them time to prepare... And now China is on the verge of defeat.

It is true, China is different from us in terms of political ideology and perspective. They are the students of Communism. And our government, like yours have been against communism.

You Koreans has shed your blood and were forced to kill your brothers on the North because of the difference in ideology.

You Taiwanese have been reinforcing your army to prepare for the possible invasion of the very country who is being invaded now.

Australians, you are too remote, and helping China does not benefit you in any way.

These are the facts. However, this day we must forget about facts.

China is the only one army who could possibly make a stand against the Soviet Aggression. Once they are gone, it is us who is next on the line.

So I pledge to you. Let us fight together. Not for China, but for our freedom. Not for Communism, but for the peace in Asia.

Beskar

08-10-2009, 00:56

America urges Japan not to be too rash in its actions. However, America is is not condemning Japan in any way.

Beefy187

08-10-2009, 01:00

Japan...:brood: we do have other....concern's...right now, we need to worry about Europe..:juggle2:

Not to say we must abandon China...but right now we need to get the CEDI to pull back or face NATO:whip:

China is not part of NATO and has been supplying, The Czechs for a while now, so they only had what was coming to them..:inquisitive:

We don't owe anything to them:bow: (We need to worry about the Czechs and there "Cobalt Bombs":no:)

Japans in Asia, and this Soviet Aggression is much more concerning than that of Europe.

Well, it would be much more helpful if Russia can just go back to their own business and go home. Otherwise I'll have to worry for my life.

White_eyes:D

08-10-2009, 01:00

Beefy187

08-10-2009, 01:05

I think Beefy better back down before we all see MAD.....if you help, he well be able to push the button....:sweatdrop:

Edit:Stand down or we may need to make sure you don't trigger World destruction:bow:

Then let him push the button. He will die too :laugh4:

I'm not going to invade Russian lands, or the Chinese.
Our involvement will be purely defensive other then a few assist via Air bombardment.

Beskar

08-10-2009, 01:09

America has already commented, that it will supply assistance to those nations caught in the crossfire, and Russia knows far better than to touch Japan, or an ally of NATO. Consensus is that NATO won't be extending this mandate to anything else any time soon, unless the situation dramatically changes.

White_eyes:D

08-10-2009, 01:10

I don't know.....:sweatdrop: You do realize that is like giving an excuse to have Russia invade you??
I don't want to trigger MAD....you might be on your own:no:

Centurion1

08-10-2009, 01:10

I applaud Japan's bravery. They truly see the picture beyond the narrow view many people are now presenting. China is currently undergoing many political reforms. We hope one day that all the brothers and sisters of Asia may feel safe and secure against outside aggressors. We were exploited too long by western imperialists and i say NO MORE.

As to Italy, you do realize that if i am placed against the ropes i have the potential to destroy the earth as well.

Also to Italy, WE NEVER SUPPLIED THE CZECHS. THEY ARE LYING AND IF THEY DO NOT DESIST IN THIS LYING AND APOLOGIZE WE WILL CLOSE ALL TALKS WITH CEDI

Oh and Beskar.... You named them the horde. don't put words in my mouth.

White_eyes:D

08-10-2009, 01:16

Beskar

08-10-2009, 01:17

{ Iran's Mohammed Beskar named them that, not America's Gaius Beskar, they are different people. :bow: Also Iran and America are being played differently. }

Beefy187

08-10-2009, 01:19

Yeah...why Russia can't push you too far...:beam: (Only real way to have a wining-draw really:shrug:)

But Japan should do whatever the heck it wants....I don't care anymore....you want to kill us all go ahead:shame:

I was convinced not to fight :shame:

But I'm not going to stop condemning Russia.

Bad Russia, Bad Russia, Bad bad bad bad BAAD RUSSIA! :smash:

Centurion1

08-10-2009, 01:25

still dont put words in my mouth

pevergreen

08-10-2009, 01:38

still dont put words in my mouth

HOTLINKED PIC. KHAAN FOUND OUT! RUN!

Beskar

08-10-2009, 01:41

America requests China changes its tone. America has been rather generous and sympathetic, by imparting wise-counsel, generous offers and dealings.

Even during China's time of crisis, while they are accused of funding the 4th Reich and opening military dialogue with them, while in possession of a NATO members territorial claims.

We have been generous in offering them a "Get out of Jail Free" card, even though we are accused of being hypocrites, because we are not sending all our armed forces to support you, causing a Third World War. You still lay claim to a NATO members territorial possessions, thinking none of it other than "Why should we return them?", I wonder if we ask Russia to withdraw from China, they use the same excuses you are using?

NATO is not part of the NAP, we have no reason to get involved with your affairs, we aren't your lapdogs either. If you want to co-operate with NATO, then co-operate with NATO.

Centurion1

08-10-2009, 01:41

^ any paticular reason you quoted that.......

ULC

08-10-2009, 03:37

Czechoslovakia withdraws it's statement concerning China, but it does wish to know where it's funding did come from, for CEDI did indeed receive continuous funding while it was in formation.

America, you sound more and more like Stalinist Russia - paranoid about a resurgence in German power. This, again, has nothing to do with Germany, but with Central Europe. I dare you to come here and call a Czech, a Croatian, Slovakian, Pole, Dane, Romanian, Greek - call any of them Germans, and see what happens. You attempt to paint this attempt at freedom from one superpower or another as if we would bring the holocaust, when it is you who sits knifes edge away from arming your nuclear weapons.

Both Russia and China have remained civil after this sudden upheaval, it is only you who continue to poke and prod your allies to do as you wish, to continue to insult CEDI based upon what evidence? The fact we have dirty bombs for defense? That America itself does not have these types of weapons, including devastating Thermonuclear weapons? And yet, if we say "we will use the Cobalt Bombs in defense" it is an utter tragedy, but when you say "We will launch our nukes at you in either preemptive attack or defense" it is perfectly fine and far less of a tragedy.

Death is yonder

08-10-2009, 03:51

Russia is the one who threatened nuclear war? I never even mentioned it. The real reason i am mad at russia for invading is because it may ruin the game.

You know, you are awfully diplomatically incompetent, there's a difference between the reasons behind making a threat, and the reasons behind actually carrying it out. :laugh4:

Even if say...USA declare war on Russia...that would equal=Nukes and DIY wins:smash:

As far as I can see....DIY will win no matter what the out come....it's like this game is designed so Russia will win....look at the points:book:

1.He gets more then 2x armies fighting him...he nukes=he wins:help:

2.He beats you and takes over your country=he wins, gets more armies with no negative drawbacks:help:

3.He gets beaten back to Moscow and still can Nuke everyone since he is a Russian leader who is Infallible...His generals and people well follow him to the grave...not caring that they kill them selves:inquisitive: (Yeah after Afghanistan.....most of the Russian leaders were on thin ice...:rolleyes:)

4.He wins no matter what the out come may be:shrug:

Firstly, I don't treat the sattelite states as my lapdogs, they have free reign.
Secondly, well, that's the general idea.
Thirdly, I'm not such a sore loser to do that.
Fourthly, that isn't true, because I'm not such a sore loser to nuke everyone once I start losing.

so what of our demands. We did not ask for this war. we entered with the intention of reform (well actually beskar supposedly did). then we were attacked on all fronts by unreasonable peoples.

I asked for peace. Even as the winning side i was refuted rudely and idiotically.

All we wish for is Iraq to be placed under NAP protection. The anti-mec can have whatever they want aside from that.

WHERE IS THE CONDEMNATION FOR RUSSIA. NATO speaks of ideals but they allow unwarranted aggression to go on. Britain and China were peaceful and did nothing to harm Russia. But like assassins in the night they have entered our lands with the intention of stealing our knowledge and destroying our lands. We ask the world community to give us SOMETHING, anything to support us against such unwarranted aggression. Whether that be troops, trade, or anything else to aid us in our valiant defenses. Look to your own actions before ye be condemned as hypocrites.

You condemn the NAP as hostile, but look and tell me what have we done that is unduly hostile.

Bhutan is being returned to the Dragon king in two phases after he is safe from any future coups.
In the middle east, we invaded to right a wrong. We were attacked by multiple nations. Tell me would you have just sat there and waited for your defenses to be breached. I think not.
We have eased tensions and created a new nation to join the new world order. China, India, and Pakistan banded together and created a new nation.
Britain is now saving millions of South Africans in a massive humanitarian aid campaign.

I ask you Nato..............

What have you done for the world besides causing children to have nightmares about Nuclear warfare, Grown men to die defending your "ideals". Think of your own actions before you go and question ours.

Unreasonable? You'd rather we all just sit here, discussing politics, and giving Greyblades just lots of work to do. Really, the main motive was to spice up the game :yes:

Reunification, yeah right. Unrightful attack more like it, but I´m not surprised. There must have been a reason for YLC to take over Poland and Hungary. I can only presume that Death is Yonder freely gave up Europe so that he could withdraw his troops knowing that a nonaligned powerblock would spring into action. That would also explain why he doesn´t give a rat's behind that his ally is under attack...

Not really, we didn't know of their plans until very recently, and very unfortunately, we had already begun setting the current events into motion (planning stage).

We were working behind the scenes double time wondering into this, we can only find out what the nation is telling Greyblades, not each other...

Japans in Asia, and this Soviet Aggression is much more concerning than that of Europe.

Well, it would be much more helpful if Russia can just go back to their own business and go home. Otherwise I'll have to worry for my life.

We're destroying the NAP, not Nato. We are not going to attack Nato, or our old trading partner Japan from turn 1. We're just tired of this "Non Alignment Pact", which ironically, is more of a "Aligned Pact for Free Casus Beli"

Then let him push the button. He will die too :laugh4:

I'm not going to invade Russian lands, or the Chinese.
Our involvement will be purely defensive other then a few assist via Air bombardment.

We would like to warn, that any Identified Hostile Aircraft will be instantaneously shot down, though we will be merciful and use Anti Aircraft guns, not missiles, so that your pilots have a chance to eject. Any shot down pilots will be delivered back to Japan safely.

slashandburn

08-10-2009, 03:56

YLC, he didn't call CEDI german, he called it a Fourth Reich, which it would be. The Third Reich controlled all of the countries you mention so he is not pulling stuff out of his :daisy:. He is stating that such a dramatic change would be unfavorable to the power balance and could cause unneccessary bloodshed in Europe.

Beskar

08-10-2009, 03:59

You are incorrect, dearest Czechoslavakia. You are already at war with your old Warsaw allies and NATO has already spoken to the powers and came to a conclusion. American President Gaius Beskar on a golf trip with the Russian Premier, Yonder, have also shaken hands over the matter.

America and Russia have also been speaking about resolving the long standing issue of a unification of Germany and restoration of Eastern German autonomy.

slashandburn

08-10-2009, 04:00

Also, if any cobalt bombs are used against any NATO soldiers, France will personaly make sure checkoslovakia is uninhabitable for the next ninety years. :brood:

Death is yonder

08-10-2009, 04:15

slashandburn

08-10-2009, 04:17

France is glad that the two fueding superpowers have been able to out aside their differences to demolish a common enemy.

pevergreen

08-10-2009, 04:28

Yet unifying a country broken in two is a war crime, whereas invading a country with no seeming cause is fine?

America no longer is the home of the free, but the home of the devil.

Germany, as part of CEDI, is willing to talk with anyone in a peaceful solution. We will need to talk to (YLC) to fully brief ourselves on the long term goals of CEDI, but there is no cause for World War 3. Not when other things have gone the way they have.

Death is yonder

08-10-2009, 04:38

We're not in World War III.

We are in: The Anglo Chinese-Russian War

and the German War of Independence

:beam:

White_eyes:D

08-10-2009, 04:39

I kinda like those names for war's...:bounce:

pevergreen

08-10-2009, 04:43

What german war? Germany was indepedant, just in two pieces, the pieces have been put together as a democratic whole.

Is there something about democracy that America doesnt like?

(Or as John Howard said in a parody: Is there something about continous economic growth and record low unemployment you don't like?)

Beskar

08-10-2009, 04:48

Russia, unlike some powers, recognises opportunities that America and NATO can offer. After a brief chat around a few games of golf, there are talks of plans about peace in Europe and a promise that NATO nations, allies or neutral nations in Asia won't be touched. This safe-guards millions of NATO and non-NATO members alike.

Then on the other hand, there is China, which is doing rash actions against NATO, refusal to return lands regarding to NATO member, refusing peace in the Middle East, co-operating with the terrorist organisation the C.E.D.I apparently funding it's cobalt weapons programme to be used against Europe, invading Turkey when it knew in advance not to do such an action. I would have thought China would know a good deal when it sees one.

China should recognise the policies of President Gauis Beskar by now. He is a very generous man and he will offer deals which would be silly to refuse, refusing only makes the deals get worse. America is still at the table, for China to decide a U-turn on it's current attitude. Unfortunately, Chinese refusal for negotiation will result in relationships worsening.

We advise to take the offer while it is still there.

Beskar

08-10-2009, 04:51

It is amusing that the warmongers, the very same who tried to invade the Netherlands, invaded Hungary, invaded Eastern Germany, invaded Austria are the ones saying they are seeking a peaceful solution.

I would like to direct you to the Warsaw allies on that side, and on this side, the NATO allies who both highly disagree with you.

Your Central Expansionist and Destructive Initiate will be coming to an end, where peace will follow afterwards.

ULC

08-10-2009, 05:04

First of all, CEDI has participated in no actions of anything near terrorism. Second, Hungary and Czechoslovakia both unified - the takeover was a ruse, designed to keep Russia from knowing of Czechoslovakia and Hungary's plans to break away. Third, CEDI in no way is anything comparable to an Empire, it is a defensive union only with the intent of technological advancement in humanitarian sectors and free flow of information, and every member retains autonomy as well as a direct vote in how CEDI functions.

Fourth, we do not like the fact that you imply that China supplied us with the money for our weapon's stockpile - they did not, although we believed they did. We however, did receive support, but it appears it was not from China. Second, any country with a decent economy can support such a program.

Also, do not blame Germany or it's people upon the invasion of the Netherlands - that was a past Chancellor who made those decisions and you cannot blame it on the current Chancellor. As to Austria, go ahead, look at Austria - the only people from Czechoslovakia and Germany that are there are aid workers, currently working in a humanitarian capacity and undoing what East Germany had done.

pevergreen

08-10-2009, 05:07

Make war to make peace, even though we offer peace (I believe)

OOC: I didnt attack the Netherlands, nor did I try. GB refused to accept the orders, therefore, nothing happened. East Germany invaded austria didnt they? You didnt get all arty farty about that.

Your Girly Pact is a group of power hungry nations led by yourself whereas the Nonsense Accepted Timing On group has a unstable, newly elected and power hungry man who treats countries as mere pets.

Can one not want indepedance with freedom? Peace with stability?

Peace without kissing up to America, unlike those stupid Australians...with their beaches...and their awesome women.

(EDIT: Oh yeah, thats right, it was a different leader. :laugh4: My current dude has been peaceful apart from re uniting germany)

Let's keep this clean shall we?

Beskar

08-10-2009, 05:20

President Gaius Beskar congratulate the CEDI on being able to spin information, but they are not fooling anyone, only possibly themselves.

ULC

08-10-2009, 06:17

President Gaius Beskar congratulate himself on being able to spin information, but they are not fooling anyone, only possibly themselves.

Czechoslovakia concurs.

Zim

08-10-2009, 10:49

India supports the proposed Middle Eastern ceasefire and negotiations.

We are also disappointed in the USSR, who we've often supported and defended to the U.N. and International Community.

India's Prime Minister has much to mull over before saying more on current issues, though.

Centurion1

08-10-2009, 14:49

China is willing to consider these talks with the middle east. Maybe we will play a few rounds of golf with them. We will withdraw from Turkish territory on the condition that America removes itself from the talks. We appreciate you mediating the conflict and developing this initial proposal, but we find your current accusations, such that we fund terrorists to be a little to insulting to handle.

Russia, Russia, Russia.......... I may be diplomatically incompetent but your current actions show an incompetence tactically, you really did not gain much in a surprise attack. Oh and congratulations you attacked a nation (Britain) and its troops involved in humanitarian aid actions.

Death is yonder

08-10-2009, 14:59

Such as invading the peaceful areas of
South Africa, and threatening to invade more...
Not to mention throwing its troops away in war
rather than send them for the above mentioned
'humanitarian causes'...
hmm...
:thinking2:

And I think I know fully well that I attacked a nation, thank you very much for pointing that out to me :wink:

Perhaps you'd rather I exclaim that I attacked a few rural villages in Africa? :inquisitive:

Centurion1

08-10-2009, 15:10

Well of course i had rather you attacked a few rural villages in Africa..........

Oh and Britain never participated in the middle eastern war. Well, let us keep this conflict gentlemanly and hope it has the same outcome for you as the war previously did. :laugh4:

Death is yonder

08-10-2009, 15:30

South Africa isn't the middle east :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

Hope... it is like a light in the darkness... then cruelly extinguished...

:candle::candle::candle:

:croc::croc:

:trytofly::trytofly:

Try as you might, but it all ends in failure :2thumbsup:

Centurion1

08-10-2009, 15:45

forgive me my russian is not what it once was........

What the heck did that mean :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

[Language please - GH]

Death is yonder

08-10-2009, 15:53

Normally I would be all helpful and pose the statement to you again in Chinese, but the smileys speak for the words :yes:

Centurion1

08-10-2009, 16:42

However, sometimes hopes candle may seem to topple, only to fall and light an ever greater fire.

Oh ill be kind and give you a translation

Odnako, inogda svecha nadezhd, mozhet kazat's'a, svalivayets'a, tol'ko padayet i zazhigayet kogda-libo bol'shij ogon'.

Death is yonder

08-10-2009, 17:01

I can only marvel at the time you wasted looking for that translation :laugh4:

Beskar

08-10-2009, 21:09

China is willing to consider these talks with the middle east. Maybe we will play a few rounds of golf with them. We will withdraw from Turkish territory on the condition that America removes itself from the talks. We appreciate you mediating the conflict and developing this initial proposal, but we find your current accusations, such that we fund terrorists to be a little to insulting to handle.

President Gaius Beskar will withdraw from the talks, so will Turkey as you given them their lands back, and you agreed to the cease-fire, whereby, you can talk to the other nations.

America thanks China for it's co-operation in this matter.

America hopes that dialogue in the future will be more positive as well.

Centurion1

08-11-2009, 02:12

I can only marvel at the time you wasted looking for that translation

Not very much........... I know Russian.

As to Beskar. Whatever, you got what you wanted. Now you can stop pretending to actually care.

Beefy187

08-11-2009, 09:54

You know, you are awfully diplomatically incompetent, there's a difference between the reasons behind making a threat, and the reasons behind actually carrying it out. :laugh4:

Firstly, I don't treat the sattelite states as my lapdogs, they have free reign.
Secondly, well, that's the general idea.
Thirdly, I'm not such a sore loser to do that.
Fourthly, that isn't true, because I'm not such a sore loser to nuke everyone once I start losing.

Unreasonable? You'd rather we all just sit here, discussing politics, and giving Greyblades just lots of work to do. Really, the main motive was to spice up the game :yes:

Not really, we didn't know of their plans until very recently, and very unfortunately, we had already begun setting the current events into motion (planning stage).

We were working behind the scenes double time wondering into this, we can only find out what the nation is telling Greyblades, not each other...

We're destroying the NAP, not Nato. We are not going to attack Nato, or our old trading partner Japan from turn 1. We're just tired of this "Non Alignment Pact", which ironically, is more of a "Aligned Pact for Free Casus Beli"

We would like to warn, that any Identified Hostile Aircraft will be instantaneously shot down, though we will be merciful and use Anti Aircraft guns, not missiles, so that your pilots have a chance to eject. Any shot down pilots will be delivered back to Japan safely.

I'm starting to like Russia.

Must not fall in to their traps :wall:

Death is yonder

08-11-2009, 12:32

I'm starting to like Russia.

Must not fall in to their traps :wall:

Come to us Master Beef, we promise that you will be given restaurant immunity :smash:

We are evil, not merciless :clown:

We may subjugate your lands, but we treat the people well. After all, what good is, war, nukes and devastation when we can give peace,land and bread :smash:

Centurion1

08-11-2009, 15:19

*cough* bull *cough*

Wow russia really, you treat your people well........

Death is yonder

08-11-2009, 15:30

Well lets see....

We don't have a gestapo oppressing the people.
We don't have multitudes of lessons on Russian in Afghanistan.
We don't ill treat the people through malnutrition and bad politics.
We have an economy that isn't likely to bankrupt the people's savings.
We have a fair and just leader who doesn't conduct random round-ups of people followed by execution...
And we most certainly do not spy on our own people.

Centurion1

08-11-2009, 16:32

We don't have a gestapo oppressing the people.
Only the KGB
We don't have multitudes of lessons on Russian in Afghanistan.
Only Martial Law
We don't ill treat the people through malnutrition and bad politics.
Only corruption and since everybody starves it is equal right?
We have an economy that isn't likely to bankrupt the people's savings.
Because the people have no savings
We have a fair and just leader who doesn't conduct random round-ups of people followed by execution...
Uh, well i am not going to question your morals.
And we most certainly do not spy on our own people.
:inquisitive:

I am going to figure you are roleplaying, correct?

Death is yonder

08-11-2009, 16:36

You mean it wasn't obvious? :clown:

Centurion1

08-11-2009, 16:56

Beskar

08-11-2009, 21:03

https://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3918/timemagazine.jpg

Greyblades

08-11-2009, 21:23

Am I the only one who cant see anything in Beskar's post?

Beskar

08-11-2009, 21:29

Changed location of image, might work for you now.

Centurion1

08-12-2009, 02:32

You have wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much time on your hands

Beskar

08-12-2009, 02:36

China is just jealous.

White_eyes:D

08-12-2009, 02:43

China is just jealous.

:laugh4::beam::clown::smash:

Centurion1

08-12-2009, 02:45

Well we may be a tad jealous. :sweatdrop:

Here is our attempt

Allow me to translate. Die russia we are awesome, america is the jealous one, proletariat, proletariat, rah, rah, rah.

Beefy187

08-12-2009, 10:47

Well we may be a tad jealous. :sweatdrop:

Here is our attempt

http://markfenske.com/2005/08/chinese-propaganda-posters-from-museum.html

Allow me to translate. Die russia we are awesome, america is the jealous one, proletariat, proletariat, rah, rah, rah.

Can't see it. :sweatdrop:

Death is yonder

08-12-2009, 13:21

From one communist dictator to another- Nothing wrong with being evil, as long as you can look into a mirror and say,
"i am one evil ^$^&$%@& and i am proud of it". It is all about your self image. :clown:

I am one sneaky :daisy: and I am proud of it, now lets go back to destroying China :smash:

On the subject of your diplomatic proposal, I wonder if everyone in Russia laughs, you can hear it from America :2thumbsup::2thumbsup:

We laugh in the face of your polka dotted diplomatic proposal and we stomp on it on the floor and use it for lovely heating in this winter :yes:.

Beskar

08-12-2009, 13:31

I bet it wasn't as bad as the one we got.

Death is yonder

08-12-2009, 13:38

CHINA DEALS WITH AMERICA?!?

Send in the shock troopers, NOW!

:hmg: :hmg:

Centurion1

08-12-2009, 13:57

To both of you........

The Chinese equivalent of flicking someone off.

Japan, yeah i'm too lazy to fix it

Beskar

08-12-2009, 14:25

President Comrade Yonder informed us that you were proposing to Russia to strike at NATO with you, suggesting we were apparently the biggest threat to the world.

President Gaius Beskar would like Chairman Centurion to respond to these accusations.

Death is yonder

08-12-2009, 14:30

Beefy, just quote his post, and manually copy the the link into your address bar and remove the image tags, that should do it. It turns up in the quote :bow:

Hey China, have some fun yourself :smash:

https://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3388/chinglish.jpg

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

Edit: Image Tags not working? :inquisitive:

Edit 2: Working Now :bow:

Centurion1

08-12-2009, 15:00

Ha i will give you the entire conversation. even though it was rather pathetic of me......

Lets us be frank. we are neither of us going to gain much from this war. The real winner here is America. The problem is that now that America is active, we have to actually worry about him. And neither of us is used to America as an active player yet.

Perhaps, you are willing to discuss a peaceful resolution to this current dilemma. Mind you i am not really worried about the outcome, but i am worried for the future of our nations.

Now yes i said i was worried about you. but nothing about attacking you, just more lies from Russia.

Oh and beefy i will give you the link if you want to see it. i tried again i am not sure why it is not working.

Beefy187

08-13-2009, 00:36

Ha i will give you the entire conversation. even though it was rather pathetic of me......

Now yes i said i was worried about you. but nothing about attacking you, just more lies from Russia.

Oh and beefy i will give you the link if you want to see it. i tried again i am not sure why it is not working.

Now the links gone :sweatdrop:

I can see DiYs though

Centurion1

08-13-2009, 01:26

is this turn ever going to end...........

Greyblades

08-13-2009, 01:34

Centurion1

08-13-2009, 02:18

do you have anyone who would be willing to take your place as host for that time period.

Greyblades

08-13-2009, 02:25

Not realy seeing as its all mixed up enough, after a month of slowly stripping away YLC's rules, that I'm not completely savvy with it.

Centurion1

08-13-2009, 02:34

Yeah well its not like you can help it. Go enjoy your vacation, anyway there is one more turn at least.

Beskar

08-13-2009, 02:41

If its one turn left, then pretty much NATO invades CEDI, China and USSR duke it and everyone nukes eachother, the end. :P

Greyblades

08-13-2009, 03:00

I kinda hope to start the game up again when I come back.

Beskar

08-13-2009, 03:08

Hm, there is another idea.

You could re-create the game, change the rules. Give players from this game priority on lets say which nation they are. Maybe make some of the events which have occurred already, into the new game.

Also, re-doing the initial drive again, could bring more players/nations in, and get people working together/opposed each other.

As such: "Cold War Crisis: Part 2"

"The World is Shattered and Torn, Religious conflicts are high" etc etc

Also, as it is a new game, people don't have to object to rule changes.

Greyblades

08-13-2009, 03:15

Huh thats actually pretty good... But as insurance do you know anyone who is excelent at writing on this forum? If this is the last writeup I may aswell go out with a bang.

Beskar

08-13-2009, 03:28

If I have some inspiration, I could possibly. However, I am in the game. but.. you could ask for White_Eyes for his last rounds results pm (for the parasite game), for a sample. Something I sort of did rushing.

TheFlax can do some very good ones though. Might be an idea to ask him, but he is busy.

White_eyes:D

08-13-2009, 03:33

I sent one to Greyblades:bow:

Greyblades

08-13-2009, 03:50

Wow, I wonder how well he'd do with depicting Nuclear Armageddon whatever it is that you guys are going to do in the belief that its the last turn.

Caius

08-13-2009, 03:57

Play DEFCON and I will tell you.

pevergreen

08-13-2009, 06:37

This was kind of like RoN but bad.

:shrug: Sorry Greyblades, RoN was incredible. Lujan did such a great job. My palace of skittles, the economic system...everything.

I should start that game again.

Death is yonder

08-13-2009, 09:23

Tomorrow then I'll be on vacation from saturday for two weeks on a different continent from my computers files where even if I do get internet acess I wont have everything I need to keep this game up.
...Sorry was I'm supposed to give prior warnings for things like that aren't I?

I have nothing to say but.... :shame:

Happy Holidays! :laugh4:

Whiteeyes + Nuclear Armageddon... :scared:

you could ask for White_Eyes for his last rounds results pm (for the parasite game), for a sample.

Hmm.. takes notes down... :yes::yes:

Greyblades

08-13-2009, 14:04

This was kind of like RoN but bad.

:shrug: Sorry Greyblades, RoN was incredible. Lujan did such a great job. My palace of skittles, the economic system...everything.

I should start that game again.

RoN?

I suppose its my fault I wasnt intending for anything as complicated and mind numbing as economics but then came along YLC with his magic set of rules and I couldnt resist.

Besides, it was a prototype game, I wasn't expecting it to be perfect to the last detail.

White_eyes:D

08-13-2009, 17:58

Whiteeyes + Nuclear Armageddon... :scared:
?? I don't have any nukes:shrug: If some hit me then I well laugh:laugh4:

Centurion1

08-13-2009, 18:11

Everyone ready for a grand finale. Britain is going to be pissed he missed this......... and that i am in charge of his actions....

Greyblades

08-13-2009, 19:02

Thats nice but I dont want to end the last turn when I dont have more than three sets of orders so send 'em.

pevergreen

08-13-2009, 23:05

oops, it was actually RoC.

I get confused, when RoN and RoC are both games I've played (Rise of Nations, and Warcraft 3: Reign of Chaos)

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=80139

Greyblades

08-13-2009, 23:25

Ok turns over I'm going to send a request for a writeup to Beskar, if he accepts I'll send the summare, if he doesn't want to do it maybe I can get TinCow or someone else good at quality writeups.

Seeing as it could be the last turn I'll accept any late orders until the writeup is actually posted.

Beefy187

08-14-2009, 00:55

RoN?

I suppose its my fault I wasnt intending for anything as complicated and mind numbing as economics but then came along YLC with his magic set of rules and I couldnt resist.

Besides, it was a prototype game, I wasn't expecting it to be perfect to the last detail.

I'm enjoying my self. Its just that any games are destined to slow down, when competing with Capo.

Scissor Paper Rock was a exception

Khazaar

08-15-2009, 09:44

Can´t you post a writeup yourself or give us the raw results. Then you can close this and start anew later or whatever you had in mind...

Zim

08-15-2009, 16:16

It's too bad. There may have been a few bumps along the way, but this type of game seems far more interesting to me. :smash:

I'll join any new one. :yes:

I'm enjoying my self. Its just that any games are destined to slow down, when competing with Capo.

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-15-2009, 17:35

:furious3::furious3::furious3: !!!!!!!!!!!!! how could I miss this! :shame: ..........

this has been tons of fun. If you plan on starting a new one put me in automatically! (preferably as Britain)

In all honesty this is an excellent type of game. I would love to see another one started. Economics would be a pretty useful tool to add in however. But I understand that even how it is the game is a behemoth and difficult to host.

Beskar

08-15-2009, 19:28

i got the info, will be posted soon. Good news, there isn't a nuclear holocaust.

Centurion1

08-15-2009, 23:31

i think everyone will like the results.....

Oh drizzit i am sure you can understand that i had to edit your orders just slightly.

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-15-2009, 23:32

i think everyone will like the results.....

Oh drizzit i am sure you can understand that i had to edit your orders just slightly.

Hopefully more than slightly...... I mean I had no idea something like this would happen. :laugh4: I am going to have to trust you on this man. :laugh4:

Centurion1

08-16-2009, 00:01

hey pm and i will tell you what i sent.

Caius

08-16-2009, 00:58

I would like to participate in another game. Go the USSR!!!!

(/shamless band change)

Beskar

08-16-2009, 01:57

https://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5166/cwcnews.jpg

C.E.D.I buries its head in sand as NATO and Warsaw deal first and final blow to the Rogue Reich.
https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8539/cedivnatowarsaw.jpg

The snake charmer, Lord YLC, quickly put his head in the sand when President Gauis Beskar's Nations of NATO and the Warsaw power rained bombs down on the C.E.D.I eliminating them from existence. The nations of the region are overjoyed, if not critical of the late stages of intervention. They hope it is an end to what has been nicknamed "Czechoslovakian Diplomacy" in the region. "Lord" YLC can be found in Prague where for $1 Dollar or 10 Roubles, you can throw a wet sponge at him. Owner of the stand overnight became the richest man in Czechoslovakian history.

National Peoples' Congress Bombed and Mao Zedong defaced by Russian Special Forces
https://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7277/fromrussiawithloveg.jpg

Outrage as Chinese Rubber Stamp parliament was bombed and their national hero defaced infront of thousands. Some suggest that Russian arrogance was so great, that the Russian forces conducted the operation in full Russian attire. This is a humiliating blow to the Chinese government.

Russian Operatives caught tampering with Chinese Nuclear Warhead
https://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4971/nuker.jpg

Chinese were going to be in for a blast as Russia attempted to rig the bombs to blow when released. The Russian Premier Yonder is said to be disappointed that he won't be having his Chinese Fireworks. Chinese officials have not commented so far on this matter.

Russo-Chinese War Progresses with Gains and Losses on Both Sides.
https://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9434/day8.jpg

Chinese forces counter-attack the Russian main line, pushes north. Chinese Infantry and rockets make short work of a Russian tank division, however, Russia scorch earth tactics leave Northern China in a sorry state. Russians retreat to re-group as Chinese push forward, reclaiming their homeland from the Red Menace. While Chinese forces celebrate this victory in the North. A bombing campaign in the Southern Coast allowed the Russians to stage a landing, taking many fishing ports and lucrative farmland and the province of Hong Kong.

NAP forces from the Middle East made a bee-line straight for Moscow. The 666th Russian Battlion had to redraw from their planned push through Afganistan, to cut off the Chinese assault. Chinese troops marched through Russian territories relatively unchallenged. Outside Moscow, the armies clashed in a epic battle, as Red fights Red in order for communist supremacy.

Britain blockades South Africa, preventing Russian troops from withdrawing or being reinforced.

White_eyes:D

08-16-2009, 02:19

YEAH...I toke Part of South Germany:2thumbsup:

Death is yonder

08-16-2009, 02:43

Clash of the titans :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

I love Beskar's screenshots of China :laugh4::laugh4: :2thumbsup::2thumbsup::2thumbsup:

Outrage as Chinese Rubber Stamp parliament was bombed and their national hero defaced infront of thousands. Some suggest that Russian arrogance was so great, that the Russian forces conducted the operation in full Russian attire. This is a humiliating blow to the Chinese government.

:smug::thumbsup:

:coffeenews:

Khazaar

08-16-2009, 08:57

Well at least I got my country back, you :furious3: ! See you in round two...

Centurion1

08-16-2009, 14:35

Whatever we are right outside of Moscow. quake in your boots fool, you will soon be crushed :whip:

And i now have access to another army equally powerful as my own.

Death is yonder

08-16-2009, 14:58

Uh, in case you haven't noticed...

You are at our doorstep fighting a titanic battle that will go on for ages in attrition warfare.

We just totally bombed your government and totally disorganized your power structure, not exactly cutting the head off from the body, but we gave you some brain trauma :laugh4:

And i now have access to another army equally powerful as my own.

Oh yeah? Bhutan? :clown::clown::smash::smash:

I don't think Indian troops want to fight for Chinese troops...

I think that, many of them, would barely understand why they would want to die in the service of China, in a war with someone who isn't threatening them.

In fact, I'm not even sure I'm at war with the entire NAP, just Britain and China.

Sure, they are in an alliance, but they barely even condemned me, much less declared war on me :juggle2::juggle2:

Therefore, this statement is false.

And i now have access to another army equally powerful as my own.

:yes::yes: :laugh4::laugh4:

Its like what happened to the British Prime Minister a few turns earlier *ahem*...

Needless to say, if you go ahead with that move Centurion, if I think what you are thinking, public opinion is not going to exactly be very good in your ally's lands...

Politically Incorrect :yes:

On second thought, its a very good move, please, do go ahead with it, whilst Russia is not capitalist, we certainly will capitalize on this questionable move of yours :smash:

Centurion1

08-16-2009, 15:13

Ha, i have personally asked india to concentrate on their own affairs. We do not need their help. so what you defaced some mao posters, the current premier of china does not even like mao zedong. You tampered with a nuke and failed congratulations. So you took a few cities in the south, big deal, i am not exactly worried.

as to my access to a new army just trust me it is a special secret.

Britain does not even need to worry about anything, they are fine. you didnt seem to go anywhere in south africa.....

Death is yonder

08-16-2009, 15:35

Ha, i have personally asked india to concentrate on their own affairs. We do not need their help. so what you defaced some mao posters, the current premier of china does not even like mao zedong. You tampered with a nuke and failed congratulations.

Once again the Chinese Premier falls prey to the folly of write-up fodder. :laugh4:

Britain does not even need to worry about anything, they are fine. you didnt seem to go anywhere in south africa.....

O RLY?

Although I must admit, I don't exactly care if I win or lose.

This is a game to have fun, and break political boundaries and dignitaries by invading random people :yes::yes:

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-16-2009, 16:11

Hey Russia, perhaps we should settle this like men! One on One Duel at high noon with Machine guns. :blankg: HUZZZAH!

:laugh4::laugh4: Jolly good show and all that Russia, but I will not allow this attack on my nations soil to go unpunished! LONG LIVE THE QUEEN/KING!

Let slip the Brits of war! :laugh4::laugh4:

this is going to end interestingly. Fun stuff.

Funny how we can't get through one year without everything falling apart. :laugh4: perhaps none of us should consider careers as dictators.....

Death is yonder

08-16-2009, 16:34

We're not attacking the British mainland.

After a long talk with the American President, he thoroughly convinced us not to pursue further attacks on the British, as our initial attacks were merely based on pride, which has been avenged [on our part] already, as well as fun, which has been achieved, and expressing our disgruntlement at your simple attacks on South Africa, which we want to take back, since we love conquering and doing nothing with the land.

Thus, we conclude that this is a stalemate war against Britain.

perhaps none of us should consider careers as dictators.....

We're not dictators, we're people in positions in power with other names like Prime Minister, but, they all really just mean dictator. :laugh4:

Hey Russia, perhaps we should settle this like men! One on One Duel at high noon with Machine guns.

Uh okay, what about a mini like, set piece skirmish.

Like lets say, a paint ball game in the middle of Ukraine, plenty of wild forests for jolly good fun eh?

:toff:

We'll settle who is better once and for all! :2thumbsup: