Cold war Crisis. [Concluded]

[Greyblades]

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Welcome to the 1980's by this time the cold war has been going on for over 4 decades in a stalemate between the 2 main superpowers; the United states and the USSR and there has been no clear winner in those years. By this time however the USSR is just afew years away from decline that took them out and ended the standoff, but, what would have happened if they had stayed in power? Maybe they would have still been beaten? Maybe the stalemate could still have been going on to this day? Maybe they could have even won, who knows. I'm going to cut this short because its starting to get abit cheesy.

This is the play thread for the game with one of the largest signup threads. I dont want to waste time placing the rules here so I'll just link to the origional thread with the updated rules on the front here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=116971).
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NATO+USA allies:
Caius: USA
Drizzt: UK.
Pevergreen : West Germany.
White_eyes:D: Turkey
Beefy: Japan
Blackadder: France
Jolt: Portugal
Ichigo: Italy
Roadkill: Canada
The Flax: Pakistan.
Khaan: Indonesia.

Warsaw+USSR allies:
Death is yonder: USSR
Navarro: Cuba.
Khazaar: East Germany.
YLC:Czechoslovakia.

Technically nonaligned:
Centurion 1: China
AVSM: Somolia
Beskar: Iran.
Zim:India.

I've probably left something out, any questions about the rules please ask me in the signup thread, if its about your role PM private message me directly.

Well, start talking, make your plans, send in your orders, work with your allies or just taunt the guy on the other side just try to have fun.
Phase 1: January 1st 1980

Ok then you lot dont want to wadethrough 600 pages to get to the summary on the front page well heres the rules+explanations:

The rules and systems

The main rules
1.When you want your country to do something PM me what you want and as long as it is realistic and you can afford it you should see its effects either in the writeup.
2.Each turn will last 2-3 days 2 days for everyone to have a chance to get in on whatever discussion and to send in orders and one for me to do the calculations and all that and ATPG to do the writeups.
3.Each order can be anything from a single sentance of "attack this with that many soldiers" or it can be paragraphs detailing the tactics to be used in each part of the plan. It might give you a bonus in combat but mostly it'll give atph more to work with,

Millitary system

I will keep this somewhat simple, each country will be given a set number of armies with a 1-10 tech rating. For each millitary action choose how many armies you will take from your reserves to devote to the actions. The more you send the higher the chance that you will succeed, simple?.
The tech levels will keep countries like New zealand or poland, who have small but well equipped armies, from being killed by countries like venezuala who has a similar amount of armies but have troops using a poorer quality of weaponry.

Now most conflicts will be determined by a roll of a dice and the numbers that will have to be rolled to see which side wins will be subjected to modifiers like the tech levels and number of armies involved. Dont be afraid to send in tactics with your orders it will influence the writeup and, if its good enough, affect the chance of success.

One last thing, If your tech level is 5 levels below the country you are fighting you will lose automatically unless you outnumber them three to one. That goes both ways: if your enemy is still using weaponry like lee enfields or thompson machine guns that havent been used in 20+ years and you are using M16's and abrams (ie you are 5 levels above them) you will roll over them easily.

The espionage system

The most versatile method of war, Each turn you can ask for your secret services to concentrate on doing one fact finding mission, be it finding where the enemy is keeping its ICBN's or what cologne their chief of staff is using either way they will attempt to find out. Or you could just tell them to search for enemy spies which will add a bonus on to the spycatch score(I'll tell you later).

Each country will gain 2 ratings: espionage (1 to 5) and counter espionage (1 to 5).

Espionage efficiency is the main reference I will use to determine what dice roll you must get to succeed; If your score is 1 and you are up against someone with a counter score of 1 you will have to get a 6, if your score is five its a 2+, etc.

The counter espionage score is the modifier that tells me how much chance that your law enforcement and citizens will find enemy spies I.E. how many points are taken off of the enemies dice roll. A score of 2+ can be converted to a 5+ by having a counter espionage high enough to give you a score of 5.

Economics

Ok then I'll try to explain this as well as I can but YLC will probably have to correct me.
Each turn you will earn 20 points per trading partner added to the base economy growth. You can spend your collected cultural exchange points on many actions, most of them I probably wont have thought of so if you dont see it on this meager list I'll just come up with a cost when asked:

1.a new army that will cost 10 points for each tech level you have, with a limit of one per day unless specified otherwise,
2.a coup D'etat in a minor country for 30 points.
I'm keeping minor espionage and sabotage free seeing as the price for an agent, a rifle and a pack of tnt is pretty irrelivent to a countries budget but medium actions will cost 10 points, major 20 points and epic actions like blowing up the pentagon or even bigger will cost 50 apeice.

Nuclear developement
I wasn't planning to actrually let anyone develope and build nuclear weapons as I didnt realy think that there would be much point expecting any country other than the superpowers could afford to do it. I dont expect anyone will actually do it but if you can pull it off then heres the way: The process to go nuclear will be difficult and expensive for most countries. To start the process you have to stockpile 1500 cultural exchange points and tell me to start the program. You will then have to spend 3 years, 12 whole turns, without being attacked before you will get the capability to start making nuclear weapons.
The prices for nuclear weapons will be as such:
1.one ICBN for 20 points after completing nuclear developement.
2.one nuclear missle suited for submarines will cost 10 points
3.one nuclear bombing run for 5 points
4.enough nuclear ammunition for an artillery volley for 2 points

The role layout:

I think I should have explained this through before sending them out but I think its too late to be thinking like that. Anyway if there were any part of your role PM's you didnt understand heres a description of each section.:


Name

Government Type -
The government type pretty much decides the B.E.G and having the same government will give you a bonus when dealing with a NPC.

Base Economy Growth (B.E.G) -
This is the amount of economic points you will generate for yourself each turn the 10-50 means hat you the minimum you will get between 10 and 50 points per turn..

Cultural Exchange Points -
This is the starting points you have.

Trade Good -
This is the bonuses that each player country can give to their allies and trading partners. The bonuses affects the host aswell and it should serve as a sort of incentive for the superpowers to actually keep their allies and not try to absorb them as if they get kicked out of the game the effects are removed from the game with them.

National Attributes
This is where I put the situational effects, national bonus's that you get over the other countries and minor abilities. I will keep track of the effects and bonus' for you but you will have to inform me when you want the ability to be used.

Military Tactic
This was origionally supposed to be a seperate thing and I think one or two roles have one of these for everyone else this part was merged with the national attributes seeing as I couldnt think of an unique tactic for more than 2 countries.

Military
Battalions at the ready -
This is the base amount of battallions you support during peace time I'll increase this and the recruitment pool in proportion to the amount of land you take when you are fighting. At the start when you lose forces by not engaging in battle for 4 turns while you are recruiting you can quickly replensh up to this number.

Recruitment Pool -
This is the amount of troops over the base line that you can recruit to your army the average recruitment rate is one battalion/army a turn unless I have stated otherwise.

Offence - 1-10
How good your men are at attacking, this stat will be compared to the enemies defence to help determine whether you will win or lose.
Defence - 1-10
How good your men are at defending a position, this stat will be compared to the enemies offence to determine if you win or lose.
Recon - 1-5
How likely you will notice an attack before its too late to prepare.
Stealth - 1-5
How likley you will take the enemy by surprise.
Morale - 1-10
How long your troops can last while in harsh conditions (like constant hit and run attacks, harassment by snipers, fighting suicidal forces, etc) without becoming innefficient(penalties to offence and defence) or even mutiny(your soldiers could do anything from refusing to act or attack recklessly in a search for revenge)
Tech 1-10
I'll explain this later on but in effect is the difference from the US rangers to zulu spearmen.

Nuclear weapons

Number of nukes: 0
Average yeild 0 KT

ICBN:
SSNB:
Bombers:
Artillery

The main difference between each type of nuke is generally range: bombers are for short ranges like say they can go from the Paris to Moscow but wont be able to go from Calias to China, Artillery are for the next country over like Eastern France to West Germany.
SSNB's, or nuclear subs, are the mobile launchers and can be placed in any sea as long as it isn't land locked like the great lakes etc. The closer you place them to the enemy the more chance you will be able to nuke them before they know what's going on but it also increases the chance of them being detected before hand which by the way is a very good excuse for war.
And ICBN's, the silos, are able to hit anywhere from anywhere. Simple huh?

The main game play element that nukes will play is placement. You can make a country really sweat by putting a nuke in their neighbours garden. Remember you can't actually fire them unless Defcom one is declared this goes for every other officially nuclear country.

Secret service:
Espionage: 1-10
Counter:1-10

Special forces:
This is pretty much where I explain how good your spies and special forces are. Unless your people are especially good, a superpower or in the two alliances it will pretty much look like this:

You have a regular Spec ops/secret service that can do minor and medium sabotage and espionage actions without much problem. Major actions like bombing an airforce base containing nuclear bombers, finding the locations of the enemies armour depots or even sabotaging the Kremlin/pentagon will need allied help if you want to have more than a 1 in 10 chance to succeed.

Special abilites:
I dont think I have to say very much about this part. Its a powerful action or ability that only the recipient can implement.



Capitalists gain 10 or 50 each turn for each trade partner
Socialists gain 20 or 40 each turn per trade partner
Communists gain a flat 30 each turn for each trade partner

Dictatorships lose population loyalty for an increase in economic stability - their lowest gains +5 and their highest gets -10.
Republics have increased population loyalty, in exchange for monetary benefit - their highest gets -5.
Democracies have no change, but are more likely to gain their highest bracket, and in the case of communists, a +10 bonus 50% of the time.

a Country receives a base 70% chance of receiving the better income, but it is modified with the following variables -

Democracy: +10%
Losing a trade partner: -10%
Gaining a trade partner: +5%
Having war declared upon you: -20%
Declaring war upon another: +5%
Declaring mobilization: +30% for the first 4 turns, then an accumulating -5% bonus for the following turns.
Having your country invaded: -40%
Invading another country: -10%
Signing a military alliance/signing a treaty: +5%
Breaking a treaty, peace, or truce: -10%
Demobilization: must have "Declared Mobilization", must demobilize half of your military. +20% for the next 5 turns, afterward it returns to normal levels.
Be discovered in a espionage action, or suffer the effects of one: -15%
Have a Nuke dropped on you: -60% for the next 20 turns.
Have your country suffer revolution: -30%
Have another succumb to your culture: +30%

Unless otherwise specified, the benefit only last for that turn.

[Jolt]

Two nifty things about the map:

- USSR should have Sakhalin Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sea_of_Okhotsk_map_ZI-2b.PNG)
- Indonesia invaded East Timor in 1975. It had control over it until its plebescite for independence in 2006.

[Greyblades]

Blooming perfectionists...
Fixed

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

so is AtPG still going to help with the write-ups?

and could we put the map in Spoilers? kind of annoying....
Edit:
Thanks, sorry about that, but was hard to read everything like that

[Beskar]

We demand that America extradite Mohammad Rezā Shāh Pahlavi to the Islamic Republic of Iran for charges of human rights abuses through his despotic regime.

[pevergreen]

Germany proclaims that anyone who deals with the facists of former Germany shall be excused from dealings with germany.

As for those who fight for freedom and justice, I ask you to join me in liberating the true germans to their home state, when the time is right.

Germany is open to trade.

[Zim]

India wishes to extend a hand of friendship and trade to any who wish it. Except Pakistan, who we demand should give up all claims to Kashmir immediately.

[TheFlax]

Kashmir is a topic about which the Pakistani people are passionate and we will not let our brothers and sisters be smothered by the illegitimate government you have installed in that region. Pakistan is ready to go to great lengths to assure the well being of its people, be they in Pakistan or in an occupied territory.

[White_eyes:D]

Any one, who messes who NATO or the Middle East is no friend of Turkey....:yes:(India and USSR on high on that list:whip:)


Now who wants to trade?? my trade good is useful for those of us who like to defend...:egypt:

[Zim]

Kashmir is the rightful property of India. Any conflict with Pakistan over it would not be a result of our "messing" with the Middle East, and would be entirely on their hands, as we have no desire to war with anybody.

[TheFlax]

Ah... So India thinks of the brothers and sisters of the Pakistani people as "property", how enlightening. You say you want peace, yet you do not work for it. We will not tolerate the oppression of our people any longer.

[White_eyes:D]

Well, if your conflict gets out of hand......and India starts invading the Middle East:inquisitive: I will take action then.......for now....I have a BIG RED FISH to fry....:sweatdrop:

[Zim]

We only hold claim to it by the agreement your very own country made to allow Kashmir's Maharaja to choose the destiny of the region, and the will of the region's people as expressed in their ratification of Kashmir's accession to the Union of India.

I do not expect a nation with an autocratic, terrorist government to understand such things as formal treaties or the choice of the people through representative government, however.

[Beefy187]

Japan will trade with everyone who wants to trade :bow:

West Germany, are you interested in trading with Japan?

Also, to the mastermind of this world, is it day phase or night?

[Death is yonder]

Mother Russia is interested in removing our isolationism and offer trade to all those who want to trade.

We are also eager to trade with fellow good men in our wondrous Asia. Particularly those in Japan and China, :bow:

We hope that Japan will forgive our past animosity in the Second World War where we declared war on you, as well as our past differences stemming from battles in the early 20th century.



Turkey wishes to DIE?

We will eagerly steamrollbake your delectable wings and tear off a hunk of your lands that rightfully deserve to be in our Mother Russia.

As for your western allies , I believe they will be halted by Russian steel and cold, hard, lead.

You should think twice before attacking the biggest country in the world... who just so happens... to be your border:devilish:



We also offer trade deals at reasonable prices that will benefit our allies, the glorious country of India, our esteemed friend Cuba, and our own possession, (technically), East Germany.

:bow:

Contact for any details pertaining to trade.


As for the westerners... we in Soviet Russia are open for trade, as long as you do not bring spies on board your cargo... we warn you, any spies, particularly airplanes and submarines, will not even be given a show trial. They will be executed mercilessly and their bodies thrown back over the Berlin Wall as a packaged gift.
:devil:

However.... USA is totally not welcome here. At the very most you may send a diplomatic envoy. Rest assured, even we, will give you, assured safety to discuss political matters. Whether we agree or not is another thing.

We may not agree with your mental capacity, but we certainly are willing to discuss with a fellow superpower.

Russia is open to all deals, Indians, Japanese, Chinese, Cubans, and people under the administration of the Eastern Bloc will be given priority of supplies and trade. We are also ready to make a deal with Somalia in exchange for not raiding our shipping. We very much like to have our money.

Also, any cloak and dagger policies will be shot down immediately. :whip:


OOC: Greyblades, when does the phase end? The phase is accurate to day as well, so I assume its probably either in terms of weeks, or months per phase? (In game)

[Beefy187]

We hope that Japan will forgive our past animosity in the Second World War where we declared war on you, as well as our past differences stemming from battles in the early 20th century.



Only if you are going to give those islands back to me :smash:

[pevergreen]

West Germany offers the helping hand of trade to the following countries (players)

USA
UK
Japan
France
Portugal
Italy
Canada
China
Somolia
Iran

[Khazaar]

East Germany offeres trade to all Warsaw Pact partners and all unaligned nations.

[Death is yonder]

Only if you are going to give those islands back to me :smash:

We'll see about that :clown:

But for now, how about trade? :smash:

[Beefy187]

We'll see about that :clown:

But for now, how about trade? :smash:

We'll see about that :clown:

Though... I would really like my people to get back to their land they were born and raised on. :smash:

[Death is yonder]

The document officially renounces Japan's treaty rights derived from the Boxer Protocol of 1901 and its rights to Korea, Formosa (Taiwan), Hong Kong (a British colony), the Kuril Islands, the Pescadores, the Spratly Islands, Antarctica and Sakhalin Island.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_San_Francisco


No final peace treaty has been signed and the status of four neighboring islands remains disputed. Japan renounced its claims of sovereignty over southern Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands in the Treaty of San Francisco (1951)


:pimp2:

Legally, its mostly ours still. A few islands here and there won't hurt Beefy :smash:

We'll think about letting you have privileges there though, seeing as some of them are supposedly yours. Still... all's fair and share in war.

[Beefy187]

:pimp2:

Legally, its mostly ours still. A few islands here and there won't hurt Beefy :smash:

We'll think about letting you have privileges there though, seeing as some of them are supposedly yours. Still... all's fair and share in war.

Okay... Is that how you want to play? Use legal documents and use logic?
Thats it!! Thats really it!!

Japan will forfeit expression. From now on, we will maintain our emotionless looks. And confuse the hell out of everyone we negotiate with. You will no longer know what we are really thinking. We smile not because we are happy.. We nod not because we agree.. We do it just because the atmosphere suggests us to smile and nod.

Fear our poker face:smiley2:

[Death is yonder]

Welcome to the political world :smile:

:clown:

[Beefy187]

I agree with America by default :clown:

Is it day or night?

[Death is yonder]

I agree with America by default :clown:

Is it day or night?

Beefy, we are highly disappointed in you! They bombed you! Did we? No! You crushed us in battle in the early previous century, we merely evened the score by defeating you in the second world war. It is balanced! Don't list to those massacres. Who dropped Atomic bombs on your city? Certainly not Mother Russia! :skull:

I think its not classified day or night. Just how long the phase will last... which is not mentioned.

I think we're suppose to do political stuff now.

*ahem*

:smile:

Welcome Comrades! We in Mother Russia are still seeking trade deals from peaceful people. We trust that NATO will reign in its... insolent members. Especially a particular bird...:devilish:

:yes::yes:

:smile:

[Greyblades]

Phase ends tomorrow and next phase will start as soon as I've sorted who's doing what and either me or ATPG has finished the writeups.

[seireikhaan]

Phase ends tomorrow and next phase will start as soon as I've sorted who's doing what and either me or ATPG has finished the writeups.
Could you perhaps extend it 12 hours or so? Just so I can get some things in order.

[Greyblades]

Ok sure.

[Beskar]

America ignores the Iranian people, only wanting to abuse their position to overthrow our previous democratic government due them wanting our oil along with Britain.

[Centurion1]

China is an independent nation. there is no reason for anyone to fear hostility from our glorious nation. As long as you stay away from all of our lands. Oh and we already have trade agreements with all of your nations.

Oh and america we will revoke our trading agreement if you do not withdraw your support for the Taiwanese rebels

[A Very Super Market]

The government of Somalia would like to apologize for recent pirate attacks, since they are completely out of our control. He-he-heh.

All who wish to receive... personal "apologies" from the pirates themselves, please, leave me a message.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

America ignores the Iranian people, only wanting to abuse their position to overthrow our previous democratic government due them wanting our oil along with Britain.


I am not sure I like the undertones here Iran, care to explain more accurately. :shifty:


Also Russia, be careful who you threaten, I would not want to have a world war over a few petty disagreements. NATO will respond to any hostile actions, I assure you that.


We have contacted our trade partners, anyone else who wishes to partake in British trade will have to contact us privately.

[Beskar]

I am not sure I like the undertones here Iran, care to explain more accurately. :shifty:


Oil was a resource which was open to exploitation by foreign powers, in particular, the Anglo-Persion Oil Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP) (known as BP). When Mohammed Mosaddeq supported a plan of oil nationalisation in order for Iran to receive greater income from it's own resources in order to help it's people, the United Kingdom requested assistence from America and they staged a CIA-backed coup d'etat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax) overthrowing the democratic elected government installing the Shah as dictator.

In short, you were vile oppressors of our people under your imperialist might along with America and funded a despot to oppress the people and drive us into poverty. Now the Shah seeks refuge in luxury hotels on American soil with America freezing the peoples assets.

We would like the Shah returned here to face prosecution, our assets returned to the Iranian people and at least formal apologises from both America and Britain with them removing any claims or interests from Iranian soil. Once this is done, Iran will declare that you wiped the slate clean and we would be interested in mutual talks as equals.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ahhh....... well....... :sweatdrop: that......

[Beskar]

Our request is merely a small thing for such "Great" nations such as Britain and like the United States of America. All we are asking is for you to do the right thing, then possibly, who knows, we could even be friends down the line.

[White_eyes:D]

I declare that the SOVIET UNION needs a good kick....:laugh4:
so....my plan still stands...:devil: NATO will love it...:smash:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Umm turkey, perhaps provoking the USSR is not the best opening move..... I for one can say that if Turkey is the one to begin hostile actions I will not be supporting them. If you are going to attack the Soviet union you should be prepared to face the consequences....

(Of course if USSR attack you then I shall assist, but don't go around trying to start world war 3.... :laugh4::laugh4:) not to sound Callous or anything, but perhaps you should plot their doom in private :p

[Beskar]

(Maybe Nato and Warsaw have their own open topics? - Just a suggestion.)

[ULC]

Just a heads up to Greyblades, if Caius, as usual, goes inactive, my schedule appears to be open now for me to play - wow things change fast :laugh4::sweatdrop:

[White_eyes:D]

Umm turkey, perhaps provoking the USSR is not the best opening move..... I for one can say that if Turkey is the one to begin hostile actions I will not be supporting them. If you are going to attack the Soviet union you should be prepared to face the consequences....

(Of course if USSR attack you then I shall assist, but don't go around trying to start world war 3.... :laugh4::laugh4:) not to sound Callous or anything, but perhaps you should plot their doom in private :p
No worries.....I don't want a nuke battle just yet.....just seeing if the Soviet Union, well take the bait.....:laugh4: So....If I am attacked....it's likely Soviet Union...:juggle2:

[Beskar]

Just a heads up to Greyblades, if Caius, as usual, goes inactive, my schedule appears to be open now for me to play - wow things change fast :laugh4::sweatdrop:

Some how, I feel you want to play as America while I am Iran is not mere coincidence... :clown:

[Greyblades]

:furious3:
You... you... there arent any words in the world that the mods would allow me to say about this! You could have found that out sooner?! *sigh* Well anyway welcome back and all. I kinda forced caius into playing America because I was desperate to start before anyone else dropped out so there is a chance he'll settle for a different country but its his call. Pity ATPG and Iskanders gone though.

[White_eyes:D]

And what gives???? why is West Germany not wanting to trade with us???:thumbsdown: If it was a mistake I will forgive you.....but if not....:smash:

[Greyblades]

Your nato and he's a puppet of russia I dont think its such a surprise.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I believe it is because you are insulting its patron, Russia :laugh4::laugh4:

do you mean west Germany?

[Beskar]

(oh by the way, Iran is obviously open for trade relations with people. Obviously just be in our good books)

[Beefy187]

Beefy, we are highly disappointed in you! They bombed you! Did we? No! You crushed us in battle in the early previous century, we merely evened the score by defeating you in the second world war. It is balanced! Don't list to those massacres. Who dropped Atomic bombs on your city? Certainly not Mother Russia! :skull:


Its our fault for starting the war and we deserved to be bombed.
We did nasty things and we were... bad..
We massacred a few innocent civilians and raped a few.
America is a good country who smacked us in the face to wake us up from the cycle of evilness.
etc etc

Thats the governments point of view. If there is innocent kids, planning to wipe out USA from this world with anti matter bombs, that is none of our business.. We are trying our best to brainwash... I mean convince them not to.

[White_eyes:D]

I believe it is because you are insulting its patron, Russia :laugh4::laugh4:

do you mean west Germany?

YES..:wall::wall::wall::wall: I thought we were all a part of NATO????:cry2:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I guess he just does not like you :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

[White_eyes:D]

......well these things happen....:smiley:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

(oh by the way, Iran is obviously open for trade relations with people. Obviously just be in our good books)

ahhh darn it...... :laugh4::laugh4:

[Greyblades]

Hrumph apparantly one or two of you lot are in posession of the idea that you can only have a limited amount of trade effects at once or that they dont stack, or something along those lines, anyway theres no limit on how many trade deals you can have and the effects stack.

[Centurion1]

Heck yeah, the effects stack and when you have trade agreements with all nations, mwahahaha, you can cause quite a bit of damage

Oh and can this be made clear. Is Caius out and YLC in as america???

[Beskar]

ahhh darn it...... :laugh4::laugh4:

(Hey, my demands aren't much. Go sorry, roleplay giving us the Shah for trial and don't hold any grudges. Oh yeah. one other thing, you know that CIA funded guy next door called Sadam? quit giving him weapons)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

How About I give you him for trial and not hold any grudges? The public apology things is whats throwing me off....

and what about the USA they are in this as thick as me!

[Captain Blackadder]

Bonjuer Iran. France is very interested in trading with you mon ami. Please tell us what you have of worth to France we have très bon food it is is the finest in the world.

[ULC]

OCC:

There seems to be some confusion as to how the economic system works, and how Cultural Exchange Points work. Allow me to explain - again :laugh4:.

Each country has an economy, if Capitalist, then 10-50, if Socialist, 20-40, if Communist, a straight 30. This is the amount of Economic points you gain per turn, which are spent on troops, deploying those troops, building up nuclear arms, completing espionage missions, and using them for public support and research into your next tech level.

Trade partners increase the amount you get by their trade worth - which should vary from 5-20 Economic points, correct Greyblades? (:brood: correct?).

Each country has modifiers to determine the success of their economy - in general, you should get your high end figure, if everything goes according to plan or nothing happens. However, their are some modifiers that will drop this like a boulder in a pond so that you will only get a low end figure - communists do not have a low end figure, or a high end one, so they can care less about what they are doing or what is being done to them, they just keep chugging along, while Capitalists are at the opposite end of this spectrum and must carefully balance diplomacy with affirmative action to generate a powerful, but possibly unstable economy.

Cultural Exchange points are an entirely different but not separate matter. I had explained it in the previous thread, but alas, I must do it yet again ~;p.

Each Nation has CE points from 10-20, representing a countries cultural strength in the global community. Whenever you trade with someone, you may spend cultural exchange points - if you do so, you add them to your trade partners culture meter.

Each player has a culture meter, that Greyblades should be keeping track of, totaling at 100. At the start of the game, for simplicities sake, each culture meter is entirely made up of the players culture. However, as you receive cultural exchange points, it changes to factor in the received cultural points.

Once your culture meter has 50 points of another culture, you suffer a revolution, and must choose whom to back.

To counter cultural exchange, you may spend 1 point to counter 3 incoming points, you may use an espionage mission, and you may sever trade with that country, which will cause the culture points you gained from them to go down at one point per turn.

Beware who your trade partners trade with - if they receive any cultural points, you will receive half of what they receive as well.

IC - Now, what is this about the Shah? You want us, to hand him and his family over to you, who proclaim that it would be just? Is this your government speaking, out for brownie points, or do the people care enough anymore, and would actually prefer it if you lived up to the second half of your governments title?

[A Very Super Market]

Somalia warns any sea-faring nation to avoid angering the pirates by attempting to disrupt our own meager trade routes, lest your's be infested by pirates.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

OCC:
There seems to be some confusion as to how the economic system works, and how Cultural Exchange Points work. Allow me to explain - again :laugh4:.

Each country has an economy, if Capitalist, then 10-50, if Socialist, 20-40, if Communist, a straight 30. This is the amount of Economic points you gain per turn, which are spent on troops, deploying those troops, building up nuclear arms, completing espionage missions, and using them for public support and research into your next tech level.

Trade partners increase the amount you get by their trade worth - which should vary from 5-20 Economic points, correct Greyblades? (:brood: correct?).

Each country has modifiers to determine the success of their economy - in general, you should get your high end figure, if everything goes according to plan or nothing happens. However, their are some modifiers that will drop this like a boulder in a pond so that you will only get a low end figure - communists do not have a low end figure, or a high end one, so they can care less about what they are doing or what is being done to them, they just keep chugging along, while Capitalists are at the opposite end of this spectrum and must carefully balance diplomacy with affirmative action to generate a powerful, but possibly unstable economy.

Cultural Exchange points are an entirely different but not separate matter. I had explained it in the previous thread, but alas, I must do it yet again ~;p.

Each Nation has CE points from 10-20, representing a countries cultural strength in the global community. Whenever you trade with someone, you may spend cultural exchange points - if you do so, you add them to your trade partners culture meter.

Each player has a culture meter, that Greyblades should be keeping track of, totaling at 100. At the start of the game, for simplicities sake, each culture meter is entirely made up of the players culture. However, as you receive cultural exchange points, it changes to factor in the received cultural points.

Once your culture meter has 50 points of another culture, you suffer a revolution, and must choose whom to back.

To counter cultural exchange, you may spend 1 point to counter 3 incoming points, you may use an espionage mission, and you may sever trade with that country, which will cause the culture points you gained from them to go down at one point per turn.

Beware who your trade partners trade with - if they receive any cultural points, you will receive half of what they receive as well.



So do we gain more Cultural exchange points over time? Is that their only use?

[Greyblades]

Trade partners increase the amount you get by their trade worth - which should vary from 5-20 Economic points, correct Greyblades? (:brood: correct?).
Um...:sweatdrop: my new economist and USA player ladies and gents who will be digging us out of this hole in the rules.

Caus I'll give you poland if you show up again but I need somewhat active players for the superpower roles.

[ULC]

So do we gain more Cultural exchange points over time? Is that their only use?

No - your cultural exchange points are separate from your cultural meter

Say, the US trades with Iran - the US, along with it's goods, throws some of it's nice, democratic and fair culture in there, about 10 points.

Iran receives the trade, and the culture, setting it's culture meter from 100 Iranian, to 90 Iranian and 10 American. If this continues for the next 4 turns, Iran will suffer revolution, with the freedom loving, intellectual, god fearing supporters of American culture versus the incumbent tyrannical, fundamentalist, 3bul muzl1m rulers.

Say, however, Iran catches wind - it can reverse the process by spending 4 culture points, which equates to 12 CE points on it's own meter, and voila, back to the old ways, no American influence.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

do we have to send cultural points of trade partners way?

[ULC]

do we have to send cultural points of trade partners way?

No, you don;t have to do anything with your cultural points.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

So I could use all of my cultural point each turn to block any cultural exchange?
( not saying I will, just wondering)

[ULC]

So I could use all of my cultural point each turn to block any cultural exchange?
( not saying I will, just wondering)

Yes

[White_eyes:D]

Ok....NATO get your :daisy: together.....I need help or kiss any backing you have in the Middle East good bye....(And I dislike West Germany:brood:)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

what do you need?

[White_eyes:D]

For NATO to start working as a team.....:juggle2: might as well just let the Commies have Europe....nobody really cares....:shame: *Excluding GB and America I think.....:yes:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

huh, wait five minutes.

[Caius]

As for the westerners... we in Soviet Russia are open for trade, as long as you do not bring spies on board your cargo
Laughable. People, don't we see it? Soviet "oh we are damn proud of our people, we can do everything" Russia admits their errors.


Caus I'll give you poland if you show up again but I need somewhat active players for the superpower roles.
Hey, don't think I left!

It will be keep it koming.

[Caius]

We, the United States of America, wishes to inform that we are willing to negotiate with our goods to every member of the North Atlanthic Treaty Organization. Of course, go to the local embassy of our nation in your Capital and they will inform you on how we ccan have benefits.

And, we would like to remind our neutrality of war actions against the Union of Soviet Socialists Republics. Even though we believe that they are wrong, that collective poverty and a powerfull system of lies is not the best thing. We respect that, but we believe that it is wrong, and that should change...


Ok....NATO get your :daisy: together.....I need help or kiss any backing you have in the Middle East good bye....(And I dislike West Germany:brood:)
We could act as mediators, maybe we can enter in diplomatic relationships? I'm contacting you.

[White_eyes:D]

They pretty much slapped me in the face by excluding trade rights to Turkey.....:brood:

I can't just let that go.....think of the Turkish people....:whip:

[Death is yonder]

For NATO to start working as a team.....:juggle2: might as well just let the Commies have Europe....nobody really cares....:shame: *Excluding GB and America I think.....:yes:

Hear, Hear! :applause: :applause:


We, the United States of America, wishes to inform that we are willing to negotiate with our goods to every member of the North Atlanthic Treaty Organization. Of course, go to the local embassy of our nation in your Capital and they will inform you on how we ccan have benefits.

And, we would like to remind our neutrality of war actions against the Union of Soviet Socialists Republics. Even though we believe that they are wrong, that collective poverty and a powerfull system of lies is not the best thing. We respect that, but we believe that it is wrong, and that should change...


We could act as mediators, maybe we can enter in diplomatic relationships? I'm contacting you.

Likewise, we hope that you won't send your silly flapping agents who walk around with black suits and big fat guns. Kapitalism is such a bore... although... a certain someone said Disneyland looked nice from the outside...

We'd hate to execute them and roll their corpses over the Berlin Wall. :smile:

[Khazaar]

East Germany feels that we can achieve much more with mutual cooperation than with weapons. It saddens us to think that Germany will be the Battlefield for the worlds Superpowers. East Germans remeber well that Stalins offer to reunify Germany as a neutral state was outright refused by the Capitalist Imperial States.

[Khazaar]

On a related note, since this isn´t a mafiagame I would like to ask for longer turns so you have time to reply and correspond with other players, maybe 3-4 days per turn?

[Centurion1]

I just want to say that i have a trade agreement with EVERYONE (its one of Chinas abilities). I would like to know everyone's trade worth, (should be 5-20)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

so can we figure out who is actually the USA........ :inquisitive:

[Greyblades]

I'm not the sort of person to kick a player out against his will, unless he's acting like an ass or very inactive, so as long as he is a little active caius is still USA.

[Death is yonder]

Well... umm... Caius I suppose?

The USA is fractured and the people are disillusioned! The Second US Civil War!!!!

Viva la Revolution!

Peace, land, and bread... all we ever wanted.

:clown:

[A Very Super Market]

Perhaps they should have an election..

[ULC]

I wouldn't mind entering as Czechoslovakia.

[A Very Super Market]

We don't have a Yugoslavia player....

[Greyblades]

Or poland for that matter.

[Caius]

I just want to say that i have a trade agreement with EVERYONE (its one of Chinas abilities). I would like to know everyone's trade worth, (should be 5-20)
Then we can be good traders.

[ULC]

We don't have a Yugoslavia player....


Or poland for that matter.

I like Czechoslovakia :brood:

Good mix of NATO and Warsaw technology.

[Centurion1]

I like Czechoslovakia

I cant imagine why :laugh4:

Just PM Greyblades, so its official

[ULC]

The Embassy of the Czechoslovakian government opens it's doors to all with good intentions - we have many goods for those who wish of them, provided the right price can be paid in return.

[Beefy187]

Besides the Somalian pirates, and nuclear war fare, what other issues do we have?

[Greyblades]

You mean the worlds superpowers being controled by a bunch of bored people from the internet isnt enough of an issue for you? :P

[Beefy187]

You mean the worlds superpowers being controled by a bunch of bored people from the internet isnt enough of an issue for you? :P

All country acts like a three year old anyway :laugh4:

[Caius]

You mean the worlds superpowers being controled by a bunch of bored people from the internet isnt enough of an issue for you?
I'm not bored :beam:

[Beskar]

We request that America stop funding mentally unstable dictators like Saddam who would only cause themselves and the rest of the world more trouble than they are worth.

[ULC]

We request that America stop funding mentally unstable dictators like Saddam who would only cause themselves and the rest of the world more trouble than they are worth.

Czechoslovakia wishes to speak to the Iranian government about why it has issues with Saddam. It believes it can mediate a solution.

[Beskar]

The American funded and backed regime are making threatening moves towards our nation. They might attempt to declare war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Iraq_War) soon.

[White_eyes:D]

Can't you just invade them???:juggle2: (With no players controlling them, it's basically like swatting a fly:smash:)

[Beskar]

(Because America might support them? Which means I have NATO after me, including you. :beam:)

[Caius]

We are not funding any kind of war in Iran or Irak. I do not see who told those rumours to your government, but in Soviet Russia they are able of everything. Like saying that 2 + 2 is 5. In fact, their propaganda shows how they dominate their citizens. In our lands, we give them rights and FREEDOM. In Soviet Russia, they smash your rights and they doesn't let them to be free.

[White_eyes:D]

But Iraq is not part of NATO...:juggle2: and America can't "Confirm nor deny" they have been funding Iraq....:smash:

[Caius]

Why not, we speak truth.

Unless the game hasn't started, you know.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Britain wishes to warn everyone we will not tolerate Nuclear subs in British waters and the Channel.

any NATO subs found will be warned, any Russian subs will be depth-charged.

[Caius]

Britain wishes to warn everyone we will not tolerate Nuclear subs in British waters and the Channel.

any NATO subs found will be warned, any Russian subs will be depth-charged.
NATO respects that. In the other hand...

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

also, if we find any foreign spies on our land or anyone sabotaging any of our troops. We will respond likewise. With twice the force.

We will not tolerate attack on our people and land. If you do not do this then I am sure we can get along just fine......


(also OOC: are we supposed to keep track of our Economic points our self? are you guys going to tell us what we have in a feedback PM?)

[ULC]

Czechoslovakia wishes to make it known that it requests that West Germany speak with it immediately, for a more mutually beneficial relationship.

[Beskar]

(also OOC: are we supposed to keep track of our Economic points our self? are you guys going to tell us what we have in a feedback PM?)

(I hope it is the latter, with the bonus we receive from the different trading added up/given to us.)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Yes west Germany has a lot to talk about. Most notably this apparent attempt to join the Warsaw pact at the expense of NATO.
Britain is cutting all ties with Germany, and severing trade.

[ULC]

OOC: Just to let West Germany know, they will be subsumed by East Germany at worst, and have their economy and technological level be destroyed at best.

[Caius]

The West Germany leader must be in the Kremlin.

[White_eyes:D]

West Germany had no intention of following NATO in the first place......:no:

[Captain Blackadder]

France is cutting all ties with West Germany. We bring to order this emergancy meeting of the European Economic Community and we call for a vote to remove West Germany from this.
The Vote is as follows
Belgium Italy
Denmark Luxembourg
France Yes Netherlands
West Germany Greece
Ireland United Kingdom


The Second Order of Business is the introduction of Spain and Portugal into the community

Belgium Italy
Denmark Luxembourg
France Yes Netherlands
West Germany Greece
Ireland United Kingdom


ooc Could all other countries that have players please post saying yes or no and could Greyblades please vote for all the NPCs

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

UK votes yes on both plans. :bow:

[pevergreen]

GERMANY IS NOW VERY ANGRY.

LIEK REALLY ANGRY VAND STUUF.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

very good to know traitor. Have you forgotten who saved you in the first place?
NATO is not amused.

[pevergreen]

How has germany betrayed NATO?

I request proof, so far we have nothing.


As you may know, in 1980, the EU was just the EEC. I now propose that we all unite in making EU as a separate economic block, with total inter-member support. We shal also form a political support block, backing each other's decisions in the international scene and acting as one voice. Thus we shall begin to gain autonomy from the need of USA support to do any action, while gaining leverage in the international scene since the influence of the European countries is extremely large. The USA will obviously continue to support us, as they can't afford to lose such valuable allies as the European countries, while we can gain manuevering space to persue european interests which do not benefit those of the United States. Phreaps we can counter the winds of change and bring back our empires in Africa. The UK has already decided to exclude Europe as it seeks an economic alliance under its own mastery, being composed of its old colonies. France has joined that alliance, but under such a cooperation, the interests of France are downplayed and disregarded and it comes in conflict with the British interests, which will always be considered superior to those of the French in a economic alliance dominated by Anglo-Saxons.

What say you, good leaders? Is it time to bring back the Center of Power to Europe, or shall we continue divided to serve the interests of Russians, Americans or British?



I have been creating my own coalition as it were! I have managed to unite together the commonwealth countries of India (Russia is going to be pissed) and Canada, and we have also managed to ally with France! :laugh4: We have quite a few plans flouting around, not the least of which is Blowing up the Kremlin!

Of course ou did not hear any of that from me....

I put forward that YOU should be targeted not only by nations loyal to NATO, but by those of the east and America.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I have remained a loyal member of NATO. I have never had any plan of leaving it, simply because I have chosen to gather allies about me. (Which I might add has failed. both have left me in my time of need. I had assumed India's plan would not change after the game started, I was wrong. and there will be payback I assure you.)
You have chosen to leave out your own PMs in that conversation.








I am also open to trade Germany.
If you wish to know my trade good,
Trade Good - SAS Training
Throughout the years the SAS has been at the pinnacle of special forces Excellence and every country in the world would give half their lands for a force like it. Each player you give this to get a one-use auto-succeed for any sabotage mission against anyone other than Britain.

Excellent!

Japan and Germany have entered talks and are both interested in this new coalition. Japan counts you and India as its two closest allies.

As such anyone trading with you gets a +1 bonus to all Military Stats, and a +5 to base Economy growth.

Excellent.

I dunno how it works from now though.

then we have the beginnings of a beautiful partnership!

I was looking at the map and I thought...why not form a Engloman alliance. In the fullness of time, we could hold western europe. I think its the inner german in me wanting a lot of territory. I propose that when we feel ready, we take territory, and anything we take we rule as a coalition, apart from our starting territory. And you can have the rest of ireland too :grin2:

Them french don't deserve to stay there. I'm thinking borders of spain to italy and then up to denmark, roughly.

Thoughts? Or should I play nice.



I am glad we have both been having similar thoughts! I have been creating my own coalition as it were! I have managed to unite together the commonwealth countries of India (Russia is going to be pissed) and Canada, and we have also managed to ally with France! :laugh4: We have quite a few plans flouting around, not the least of which is Blowing up the Kremlin!

Of course ou did not hear any of that from me....


I may add that because of your own betrayal I have had to scrap the Kremlin plan. which would have heavily assisted NATO

your Idea of a commonwealth appears to be quite different to mine. I never planned on invading anyone (except maybe Russia, but they deserve it) Commonwealths are a group of people allied together, not some empire you create for yourself.


I had assumed that after hearing I was allied with France you would back off, but it would appear that you wen to the Warsaw pact instead.
All of my plans have had to be scraped because of both you and India, good job.


its 12:30 here, so I am going to go to bed, but I am a loyal member of NATO, and always will be. My actions have been only to further our goals. I have selflessly given out information I have gained with no thought to how it would benefit me.

I thought your plan of conquering Europe a joke, but now I see you and jolt have some sort of belief that such a course will be beneficial to you. you will never be able to hold it, that Is all I will say.
Any member of NATO should believe my plight, as I have said nothing but the truth.
good night to you all.

[A Very Super Market]

In the mean time, the Turks will find that their trade may encounter some difficulties, from what my sources in the pirate camp tell me.

[Greyblades]

Ugh I'm not going to try to go to bed early again for a long while...
YLC your the only one who understands them so your going to do the economy system whether or not it gives you an unfair advantage, your a small country in the balklands theres not much you can do anyway.
NATO try not to fall apart first turn.
AVSM stop confusing them the dont need help in that department.

As you can tell I'm kinda tired.:coffeenews:

[pevergreen]

I have not offered myself to the East, rather you have bent over backwards and released a foul odour into the nostrils of NATO.

How dare you, good sir.

[Caius]

Now the world debates into three blocks. The US, the European Union and the Soviet Union. NATO is not an economical-military alliance, it is a military alliance, but all the European members excepting the United Kingdom have decided to not to answer the NATO call.

I aplaud your Union, and won't try to mess with it, but remember the threat of communism is at your doors.

[seireikhaan]

The government of Indonesia officially announces it is eliminating all tariffs not pertaining the agricultural sector. We do not wish to put politics above economic growth and the betterment of society.

[White_eyes:D]

In the mean time, the Turks will find that their trade may encounter some difficulties, from what my sources in the pirate camp tell me.

And why me?? I don't have any problems with you.....:juggle2:

[A Very Super Market]

Why...... not?

My country is in need of poultry.

[Death is yonder]

Excellent, Nato is fighting amongst themselves.


I aplaud your Union, and won't try to mess with it, but remember the threat of communism is at your doors.

The Soviet Union is currently not planning any aggression in the foreseeable future. We haven't even deployed our nukes to Cuba!

Likewise, we are wondering why you intend to be the aggressors.

Towards the United Kingdoms, you do realize that your plan to destroy our most beloved Kremlin and strike at the very heart of the Soviet Union is directly a threat of a declaration of war?

Think wisely, we will overwhelm your armed forces in the blink of an eye. Choose diplomacy, or war. The Kremlin will not tolerate this nonsensical threatening of the Greatest Empire in the world forged in the toughness of war.

Any sensible man will fight when his property and farmland is threatened. And now you threaten us, the Russians, with millions upon millions upon millions of fighting men. You may have feared the German Blitz in the past, but trust me, the Russian blitz will steamroll over you for revenge if you dare lift a finger. Any report of sabotage will be constituted as an instant act of war.

For those who seek to use the United Kingdoms as a scapegoat, don't worry. We'll know, and we'll steamroll you first.

Russia is not some backward country like we were before the rule of Peter The Great, by whom St Petersburg is named after. We will not be grovelling at your feet for modern technology which we obviously possess.


The Second Order of Business is the introduction of Spain and Portugal into the community

May I ask who is playing Spain? Is this a slip of the tongue that Portugal plans to decimate the NPC country to create a greater western Europe continental stronghold with the help of the french from the north in a 2 pronged attack?


We are not funding any kind of war in Iran or Irak. I do not see who told those rumours to your government, but in Soviet Russia they are able of everything. Like saying that 2 + 2 is 5. In fact, their propaganda shows how they dominate their citizens. In our lands, we give them rights and FREEDOM. In Soviet Russia, they smash your rights and they doesn't let them to be free.

In Soviet Russia, we are not planning for an invasion or what not. In your lands, you give them taxes and rights to grow fat and silly. You are a dictator in reality, just hidden in the shadows. You introduce television! And Mass Media! To distract the population from the truths, you make them leave all clarity of though to you, effectively, you have already begun to be a dictatorship. Woe onto those who hide the truth! We are at least, a dictatorship on the outwards. You hide behind false lies and pretenses.


Britain wishes to warn everyone we will not tolerate Nuclear subs in British waters and the Channel.

any NATO subs found will be warned, any Russian subs will be depth-charged.

Russia wishes to let you know that we are not so desperate that we only have short ranged missiles. You are fortunate that nukes are governed by DEFCOM 1. If not, at the slightest provocation, we would send several little... joysticks down your way.


Trade Good - SAS Training
Throughout the years the SAS has been at the pinnacle of special forces Excellence and every country in the world would give half their lands for a force like it. Each player you give this to get a one-use auto-succeed for any sabotage mission against anyone other than Britain.

We thank you for your free intelligence.


I have managed to unite together the commonwealth countries of India (Russia is going to be pissed) and Canada, and we have also managed to ally with France!

Fat chance, he is surrounded by Nato and you wish to assimilate him? See fellow Indians in the Warsaw Pact, all Britain wants in their colonial empire! The world's EX greatest nation is now a shadow of its past reality... it fought so hard just to maintain the Falkland Islands, an insignificant colony hundreds of miles from their homeland! Just because it represented a symbol of what was...

Britain is merely living in its old glory days, where it ruled the world and as such, we have the attitude that follows.

"Hey! We don't like the Russians! Lets bomb their Kremlin and laugh in their faces! No! Lets have a spot of tea first. :toff:"

[Caius]

The Soviet Union is currently not planning any aggression in the foreseeable future. We haven't even deployed our nukes to Cuba!

In fact, you did before. This is nonsense and more C-lies.


In Soviet Russia, we are not planning for an invasion or what not. In your lands, you give them taxes and rights to grow fat and silly. You are a dictator in reality, just hidden in the shadows. You introduce television! And Mass Media! To distract the population from the truths, you make them leave all clarity of though to you, effectively, you have already begun to be a dictatorship. Woe onto those who hide the truth! We are at least, a dictatorship on the outwards. You hide behind false lies and pretenses.

I woe you!
Please. Please. Dont make me laugh. Do the word FREEDOM means something to you? You never mentioned it, does your people know that word? I assume not.

Television was introduced in your country too. Or that programe called Vremya is broadcasted in what? Radio?
Mass media is something you manipulate, every day you claim that communism achieved this, the people this, and every person with common sense knows, knows that any system is perfect. We have a system called democracy. This system is very easy. There are elections, but not the ones you run in your country. We hosts debates, where we discuss ideas. The people speak in the votation. They go and vote in their own will, after all we have election, mass media where there is opposition and where there are two points shown.

Why don't you let them see the whole truth? Why are you jamming radios of other countries, because they say something different than your "pride propaganda"?


Russia wishes to let you know that we are not so desperate that we only have short ranged missiles. You are fortunate that nukes are governed by DEFCOM 1. If not, at the slightest provocation, we would send several little... joysticks down your way.
America wishes to inform that we have nukes also. And Cuba near too...


Any sensible man will fight when his property and farmland is threatened. And now you threaten us, the Russians, with millions upon millions upon millions of fighting men. You may have feared the German Blitz in the past, but trust me, the Russian blitz will steamroll over you for revenge if you dare lift a finger. Any report of sabotage will be constituted as an instant act of war.
Yes, but... do you have weapons for all? The Secret Service says no. You hold no secrets, "comrade".

"Valour is superior to numbers", some say.

Also, don't you see the comrade joke? Such mistake to make them all believe that they are equal. That is an utopy, not a realizable thing.

It is hard to admit the truth.

[Death is yonder]

Russia is pleased that we are having mutual fun taunting each other. :smile:

[Beefy187]

Japan is very confused, but goes with the default option to agree with America.

[Death is yonder]

The confusion is understandable, too many Nato's arguing over a bone.

The UK has seen fresh opportunity and is pouncing. :clown:

In Mother Russia, some people are more equal than others :clown:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Excellent, Nato is fighting amongst themselves.



The Soviet Union is currently not planning any aggression in the foreseeable future. We haven't even deployed our nukes to Cuba!

Likewise, we are wondering why you intend to be the aggressors.

Towards the United Kingdoms, you do realize that your plan to destroy our most beloved Kremlin and strike at the very heart of the Soviet Union is directly a threat of a declaration of war?

Think wisely, we will overwhelm your armed forces in the blink of an eye. Choose diplomacy, or war. The Kremlin will not tolerate this nonsensical threatening of the Greatest Empire in the world forged in the toughness of war.

Any sensible man will fight when his property and farmland is threatened. And now you threaten us, the Russians, with millions upon millions upon millions of fighting men. You may have feared the German Blitz in the past, but trust me, the Russian blitz will steamroll over you for revenge if you dare lift a finger. Any report of sabotage will be constituted as an instant act of war.

For those who seek to use the United Kingdoms as a scapegoat, don't worry. We'll know, and we'll steamroll you first.

Russia is not some backward country like we were before the rule of Peter The Great, by whom St Petersburg is named after. We will not be grovelling at your feet for modern technology which we obviously possess.



May I ask who is playing Spain? Is this a slip of the tongue that Portugal plans to decimate the NPC country to create a greater western Europe continental stronghold with the help of the french from the north in a 2 pronged attack?


In Soviet Russia, we are not planning for an invasion or what not. In your lands, you give them taxes and rights to grow fat and silly. You are a dictator in reality, just hidden in the shadows. You introduce television! And Mass Media! To distract the population from the truths, you make them leave all clarity of though to you, effectively, you have already begun to be a dictatorship. Woe onto those who hide the truth! We are at least, a dictatorship on the outwards. You hide behind false lies and pretenses.



Russia wishes to let you know that we are not so desperate that we only have short ranged missiles. You are fortunate that nukes are governed by DEFCOM 1. If not, at the slightest provocation, we would send several little... joysticks down your way.



We thank you for your free intelligence.



Fat chance, he is surrounded by Nato and you wish to assimilate him? See fellow Indians in the Warsaw Pact, all Britain wants in their colonial empire! The world's EX greatest nation is now a shadow of its past reality... it fought so hard just to maintain the Falkland Islands, an insignificant colony hundreds of miles from their homeland! Just because it represented a symbol of what was...

Britain is merely living in its old glory days, where it ruled the world and as such, we have the attitude that follows.

"Hey! We don't like the Russians! Lets bomb their Kremlin and laugh in their faces! No! Lets have a spot of tea first. :toff:"


Yes Russia, we understand you are a angry and strange man.
MY plan have fallen apart, that is true. But my nation is still a nuclear super power. Please do not forget that. I have not fallen apart.

I am not declaring war on you Russia.

[Centurion1]

*Yawn* China is bored with all this posturing. I wish to call to order, AGAIN, That some nation *America* are withholding our filial right to punish our younger brothers in Taiwan. Refusal of our demands could result in economic sanction and espionage mayhem. We do not wish this course of action as we consider the foreign devils inherently good people but we are strong and the Chinese dragon shall bow for no man

[Death is yonder]

Yes Russia, we understand you are a angry and strange man.
MY plan have fallen apart, that is true. But my nation is still a nuclear super power. Please do not forget that. I have not fallen apart.

I am not declaring war on you Russia.

But are you undermining me? :skull:


we consider the foreign devils inherently good people

This statement is nominated for diplomatic insult of the phase. :clown:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Russia not everything revolves around you. God its like talking to a teenager..... :laugh4:

[Centurion1]

by insulting my declaration of goodwill, YOU ARE presenting me with a diplomatic insult. continue down this road of foolishness and you may find my considerable weight thrown against your pitiful nation. You claim to be marxist but your ideology pales in consideration against mine. Chines people are second to none in terms of ardor for nation and our great leader. You speak of nukes and i laugh at you for we too have nukes and that threat no longer frightens us. You deal not with a backwards nation but one that will continue to fight no matter what the tolls on our fellow man may be. You claim to be of the east but this is a lie, you understand the eastern psyche no more than we claim to understand you as foreign devils.

[Death is yonder]

Do the Chinese recognize not the clown smiley? :clown:



by insulting my declaration of goodwill, YOU ARE presenting me with a diplomatic insult. continue down this road of foolishness and you may find my considerable weight thrown against your pitiful nation. You claim to be marxist but your ideology pales in consideration against mine. Chines people are second to none in terms of ardor for nation and our great leader. You speak of nukes and i laugh at you for we too have nukes and that threat no longer frightens us. You deal not with a backwards nation but one that will continue to fight no matter what the tolls on our fellow man may be. You claim to be of the east but this is a lie, you understand the eastern psyche no more than we claim to understand you as foreign devils.

We understand that we are dealing with a nation such as ours. Communist, powerful, super power with huge land masses, huge amounts of natural resources, self sufficient, has nuclear warfare potential, frightening amounts of man power, and more than adequate resources to sustain a prolonged war. Ah, the similarities, which is exactly why we respect you and only speak of those words in jest, not like our totally sincere insults to the Nato alliance. :smash:

:smile:

We apologize for any slight that was inferred.


Russia not everything revolves around you. God its like talking to a teenager.....

Not everything revolves around us, but certainly more things revolve around us than you :clown:.

[Zim]

OOC, including announcement heard from YLC:

Found out all trade agreements need to be posted in the public thread here. YLC asked me to tell everyone.

So much happened while I was asleep. :clown: India will be posting after I get home from work.

[ULC]

Czechoslovakia wishes to make it known to the Soviet Premier that Czechoslovakia is sending a diplomatic envoy with a group of personal guards who know much of the ways of NATO to insure that while the diplomatic envoy is there, NATO does nothing.

[Death is yonder]

Russia is pleased and hope for greater prosperity and cooperation between our two nations.

OOC: All trade agreements must be public? Interesting.

[Caius]

Czechoslovakia wishes to make it known to the Soviet Premier that Czechoslovakia is sending a diplomatic envoy with a group of personal guards who know much of the ways of NATO to insure that while the diplomatic envoy is there, NATO does nothing.
This is an insult against NATO. We are not Soviet Terrorists!


OOC: All trade agreements must be public? Interesting.
Don't tell them that you are trading food and gas with me.


We understand that we are dealing with a nation such as ours. Communist, powerful, super power with huge land masses, huge amounts of natural resources, self sufficient, has nuclear warfare potential, frightening amounts of man power, and more than adequate resources to sustain a prolonged war. Ah, the similarities, which is exactly why we respect you and only speak of those words in jest, not like our totally sincere insults to the Nato alliance.
Can someone bring me some popcorn? I'm watching a sci-fi movie!

OOC: I am pleased to taunt against the Soviet Union.

[ULC]

This is an insult against NATO. We are not Soviet Terrorists!

Czechoslovakia did not imply that Amerikans are Soviet, or terrorists. Czechoslovakia is concerned for the safety of it's envoy, and wonders why you would think that by saying it wishes to keep it's envoy safe you are therefore terrorists.

Czechoslovakia reasons that you have terror on brain - your not actually thinking of committing terror acts? Such would be a very bad thing in Czechoslovakia's eyes.

[Beskar]

(Since it has to be public, Iran is forming trade with these nations:
Iran is forming trade agreements with the following countries -

East Germany
Somalia
Turkey
Pakistan
China
Czechoslovakia)

[Jolt]

Portugal is going to trade with the USA (In talks, currently), West Germany (Pending Italian and/or support for the European Union. I would also like to extend the offer to Great Britain, as it has apparently ceased on its quest of creating an Anglo-Saxon economic bloc.) and Great Britain (Also in talks.) Portugal states that it is willing to trade with all sovereign nations, thereby contributing to universal prosperity and success.

Portugal also like to say to China that a war with Taiwan is not in its interests. Portugal expresses its serious concerns over the Chinese rash statements which might lead it to lose Western support and consequently having to turn to the Soviet Union and becoming a junior partner in its alliance once again.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

(OOC: you put me on your list twice jolt... :laugh4:)


I am done Bandying words with The USSR. I would expect nothing less from the reds than a overly inflated belief in their own self worth.
Portugal I am willing to open talk about Trade.

[Caius]

Czechoslovakia did not imply that Amerikans are Soviet, or terrorists. Czechoslovakia is concerned for the safety of it's envoy, and wonders why you would think that by saying it wishes to keep it's envoy safe you are therefore terrorists.

Czechoslovakia reasons that you have terror on brain - your not actually thinking of committing terror acts? Such would be a very bad thing in Czechoslovakia's eyes.
My friend, why would you suppose that we were going to attack them, hence hired, in your own words, a group of personal guards who know much of the ways of NATO. This made me think that:
1- The Soviet leader is scared, hence he hired those guards
2- You believe that we are going to kidnap the Soviet Leader.

Both are false. If you believe that our country and/or NATO was going to do something then you are wrong.


I am done Bandying words with The USSR. I would expect nothing less from the reds than a overly inflated belief in their own self worth.

You know how they say, Communism is the opium of people.

[ULC]

My friend, why would you suppose that we were going to attack them, hence hired, in your own words, a group of personal guards who know much of the ways of NATO. This made me think that:
1- The Soviet leader is scared, hence he hired those guards
2- You believe that we are going to kidnap the Soviet Leader.

Both are false. If you believe that our country and/or NATO was going to do something then you are wrong.

The guards are to accompany the Czechoslovakia's diplomatic envoy to protect him. Czechoslovakia is sure the Soviet Premier has many men to defend himself.

Czechoslovakia has many weapons from NATO countries, and uses many NATO tactics, thus the guards are familiar with NATO ways.

Are you trying to make Czechoslovakia out to be paranoid, or threatening? Czechoslovakia does not take kindly to having it's mouth stuffed with words.

[Caius]

Czechoslovakia has many weapons from NATO countries, and uses many NATO tactics, thus the guards are familiar with NATO ways.

That explains all. Sorry for the confusion, looks like that behind a good intention there was a black hand.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

wait but if we post trade for everyone to see wont we be able to tell if anyone is using cultural exchange points on us? (not that I am complaining....)

[Beskar]

Also, do cultural points work in the sense of trying to do a take-over of that country?

[Caius]

What is the point?

[ULC]

:wall::wall:

If you force a revolution through cultural exchange points, then that nation becomes permanently allied to you, and removes it's player from the game. You obtain their trade good as your own and any nuclear weapons they may have.

And no, you post whom you are trading with, not the nature of what goes on in the trade. This prevents my PM box from being swarmed, and in reality, it's hard to keep trade with another nation silent.

[White_eyes:D]

So if you trade with too many country's....you're screwed....:sweatdrop:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

:wall::wall:

If you force a revolution through cultural exchange points, then that nation becomes permanently allied to you, and removes it's player from the game. You obtain their trade good as your own and any nuclear weapons they may have.

And no, you post whom you are trading with, not the nature of what goes on in the trade. This prevents my PM box from being swarmed, and in reality, it's hard to keep trade with another nation silent.

so we should tell greyblades what goes on during trade, but post it here. :yes: OK

which reminds me, how much longer do we intend to keep the round going?

[Jolt]

(OOC: you put me on your list twice jolt... :laugh4:)

That would be because in the first time I extended the offer of the creation of the EU also with the British, and on the second I was simply referring to who I was trading with or about to.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

OOC: I see what you mean now, I did not see the "()" before......

[pevergreen]

West Germany is knowingly trading with these countries:
East Germany
Czechoslovakia

Please inform me if I am wrong. I'm tired.

[Zim]

To the best of my knowledge, India is trading with:

U.S.S.R.
East Germany
Japan

We were engaged in talks to trade with Great Britain, but there has been some opposition to such since the revelation that they misrepresented the relationship between our two countries to the West Germans, and may have plotted an attack on our ally the Soviet Union.

India woud like to trade with their neighbor China, Chzechoslovakia, and Cuba as well should those nations be receptive.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Great Britain is trading with the following

Japan
Italy
Turkey
China
Portugal
America
France
Czechoslovakia
Iran

[A Very Super Market]

I believe that Somalia is attempting to trade with China and Iran, and perhaps the Soviets.

[White_eyes:D]

Turkey is trading with the following

Great Britain
Iran
Pakistan
Japan (If I am correct)
China (Said he trades with everybody:shrug:)
East Germany (not much point in hiding it...:sweatdrop:)

[White_eyes:D]

I also will be cleaning out some "Pirates" this round but of course not invading them.....just a little mischief for being too bold:bow:

[A Very Super Market]

He-heh-heh. Would you like to see even more problems for you?

We have no infrastructure to attack, little trade to disrupt, and enough of an army to stop any dedicated efforts. Your actions are only stiffening our resolve.

[White_eyes:D]

Great Britain is trading with the following

Japan
Italy
Turkey
China
Portugal
America
France

GB is not trading with you??? then your "Pirates" are done for this phase:bow:

[Death is yonder]

The USSR is currently trading with the following people.

Japan
China
Cuba
East Germany
Czechoslovakia
India


We trust that Japan will forgo political interests in the face of economic prosperity, after all, we are their neighbors and thus they stand to gain benefits from trading with us...



If you force a revolution through cultural exchange points, then that nation becomes permanently allied to you, and removes it's player from the game. You obtain their trade good as your own and any nuclear weapons they may have.

The USSR will not resort to such underhanded low tactics, we have the manpower, and the firepower. Countries who attempt this on the other hand....

:devil:

[ULC]

Czechoslovakia is currently trading with -

Vest Germany
Easht Germany
USSR
China
United Kingdom
Iran

Czechoslovakia wishes that those trading send a private messenger to us, to discuss indepth the details of what shall be traded.

Czechoslovakia also wishes to make it known that it will be taking over the collapsing infastructure of Hungary, due to mismanagement. Czechoslovakia hopes that the USSR will oblige and allow Czechoslovakia to improve the lives of millions of Hungarians.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

the pirates of Somalia should be careful who it plans on raiding. Britain will have a large naval force protecting NATO goods in the area.

Pirates will be shown no mercy. But Somalia should have no fear, for it will only assist them in clearing there own ports..... :whip:


(edit: OOC: ahh I knew I missed someone, thanks YLC, I almost forgot you.)

[A Very Super Market]

Perhaps you should ask Turkey to stop trying to establish a strong position in the Mid-east, and help their friends in Europe

How do the Czechoslovakians trade overseas when they are landlocked?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

airplanes I assume. Its what makes the world go round! :laugh4:


But I am quite fine with turkey doing whatever they want in the Middle east. as long as they continue to abide by NATO. If they wish to create their own defensive pact with the middle eastern nations I shan't stop them. as long as oil continues to flow west I have no complaints.

[A Very Super Market]

Then I will stop the oil. I had nothing against Turkey at the beginning, but they forced antagonism on themselves.

[Caius]

Our acting is very good. NATO is alive as the Warsaw Pact is.

[White_eyes:D]

Those "Pirates" are done....now moving on....anybody need spare Oil???:2thumbsup:

[Beskar]

Why won't NATO or Warsaw give me invites, am I not nuclear enough yet?

[Death is yonder]

airplanes I assume. Its what makes the world go round! :laugh4:


But I am quite fine with turkey doing whatever they want in the Middle east. as long as they continue to abide by NATO. If they wish to create their own defensive pact with the middle eastern nations I shan't stop them. as long as oil continues to flow west I have no complaints.

:stare:

*bangs table with shoe*

There will be not a single no good Nato country carving out a stronghold in the middle east.

Not if we have anything to say about it, *eyes red button*. :dizzy2:

[Beskar]

I got a better solution, as a non-aligned party, I am no interests military towards both NATO and Warsaw, correct?

So if you leave the military to me, and allow me to govern the area, taking care of Afghanistan for example, you both get all the resources you need and want, in return, you leave the region alone.

That way, we all mutually benefit.

[ULC]

Czechoslovakia does not like how NATO handles diplomacy - Czechoslovakia respects each nations right to self determination, and dislikes how NATO seems fine with giving some democracy, but others tyranny.

Czechoslovakia dislikes elitists.

[Death is yonder]

I got a better solution, as a non-aligned party, I am no interests military towards both NATO and Warsaw, correct?

So if you leave the military to me, and allow me to govern the area, taking care of Afghanistan for example, you both get all the resources you need and want, in return, you leave the region alone.

That way, we all mutually benefit.

This seems plausible, but I could see if Turkey would object...


Czechoslovakia does not like how NATO handles diplomacy - Czechoslovakia respects each nations right to self determination, and dislikes how NATO seems fine with giving some democracy, but others tyranny.

Czechoslovakia dislikes elitists.

Hear! Hear! :applause:

*Bangs shoe on table again*

[Captain Blackadder]

Mon aime surely you jest. NATO gives democracy your allies the soviet bring tyrannt wherever they go. Have you forgotten the Prague Spring. If you wish to have self determination then join NATO for you will never gain it under the Soviets as they have shown time and time again that if any one in the Soviet Bloc attempts to leave it they are invaded.

[ULC]

Mon aime surely you jest. NATO gives democracy your allies the soviet bring tyrannt wherever they go. Have you forgotten the Prague Spring. If you wish to have self determination then join NATO for you will never gain it under the Soviets as they have shown time and time again that if any one in the Soviet Bloc attempts to leave it they are invaded.

Czechoslovakia looks at Middle East and South America and calls bull:daisy: as you NATO people say - we believe it means full of lies and hypocrisy, yes? Czechoslovakia is very confused by how NATO comes up with these double standards.

[Beskar]

Iran hasn't forgotten the Tyranny America(/NATO) brought upon us. We are still seeking apologises or amendments in the form of sending us the Shah to be tried, our frozen assests (guessing in game terms, so economic stimulus to us) and for you to cut funding of madmen with Weapons of Mass Destruction in the Middle East, and other projects such as Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden.

[Death is yonder]

Politics, manipulated only to suit the Kapitalist scums and their... democracy...

The USA just says that there are weapons of mass destruction and goes invading wherever it wants.

Watch Iran, soon... in the due future, you will face UN and Diplomatic sanctions from those who call themselves Westerners...


Mon aime surely you jest. NATO gives democracy your allies the soviet bring tyrannt wherever they go. Have you forgotten the Prague Spring. If you wish to have self determination then join NATO for you will never gain it under the Soviets as they have shown time and time again that if any one in the Soviet Bloc attempts to leave it they are invaded.

The soviets only bring tyranny for those who are Nato.

Is your empire not forged in tyranny??

It may have been hundreds of years ago, but your empires were born of blood baths and arms races. Why should we be any different.

We fail to see your... logic...

[Captain Blackadder]

Yes but you have avoided my question do you remember the prague spring? You cannot talk of self determination when Russian troops are still occupying your country 12 years after 68.

[Beskar]

Iran has had talks with the nation of Japan. These people have announced their new peaceful outlook and intentions and we of Iran are forgiving of those who have seen the error of their former ways.

Iran will happily now trade with Japan. I am assured we will get metal statues called "Gundams" and the "3rd Dragon Ball" to use as it's energy source. We are not sure what is meant by these remarks, but Iran embraces honourable intentions.

[Death is yonder]

OOC: Greyblades, could you resend a picture of the Russian deployment? The current Image Shack link has turned into Images Hack.... It is really annoying.

[Captain Blackadder]

Politics, manipulated only to suit the Kapitalist scums and their... democracy...

The USA just says that there are weapons of mass destruction and goes invading wherever it wants.

Watch Iran, soon... in the due future, you will face UN and Diplomatic sanctions from those who call themselves Westerners...



The soviets only bring tyranny for those who are Nato.

Is your empire not forged in tyranny??

It may have been hundreds of years ago, but your empires were born of blood baths and arms races. Why should we be any different.

We fail to see your... logic...


Our empire was founded in Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité, ou la Mort something the Soviet Union lacks. We brought peace and technology to the world something that again the Soviet Union doesn't do.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

The UK formally apologizes for any attempts it has made to meddle in the Affairs in Iran.
( I do not know who has custody of this Shah, so I cant say whether he is released or not)
and will be backing away from the middle east and allowing it to handle its own affairs. u=Unless we are called on for aid of course.

[White_eyes:D]

We know that Russia has "Paid" the Pirate Nation of Somalia to leave them and WARSAW alone....now I ask that you leave the Middle East unless you can keep those "Pirates" in-line...??:whip:

[Beskar]

Iran has formerly recognised British apology, as for the Shah, he is stationed in America.

Iran simply wants self-determination for the Middle Eastern Muslim population. Iran to the best of it's efforts will support this adventure. Iran's goal is a noble and simple one, just freedom for the Muslim people. We have no interest in other lands outside these areas. So essentially, no one is our enemy, unless you make yourself an enemy of the Muslim people.

Allah be praised!

[ULC]

Our empire was founded in Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité, ou la Mort something the Soviet Union lacks. We brought peace and technology to the world something that again the Soviet Union doesn't do.

France has much to atone for in Oceania, South America, the Caribbean and Africa, and against both Germanies, Czechoslovakia says.

Czechoslovakia knows that France's freedom is paved with blood of those who do not want "French Freedom"

[Centurion1]

I would like to state that China currently has trade agreements with all nations (it is one of my perks as a non-aligned nation.

Portugal, you must cease your harassment of our intrests about taiwan, do you truly believe your threats frighten us, if you intend to speak such big words then you must back them up with might.

[Death is yonder]

I had assumed that after hearing I was allied with France you would back off, but it would appear that you wen to the Warsaw pact instead. All of my plans have had to be scraped because of both you and India, good job. I had assumed that after hearing I was allied with France you would back off, but it would appear that you wen to the Warsaw pact instead. All of my plans have had to be scraped because of both you and India, good job.



I had assumed that after hearing I was allied with France you would back off, but it would appear that you wen to the Warsaw pact instead.
All of my plans have had to be scraped because of both you and India, good job.


So... you are all seeking to forge a new European alliance to decimate the remnants of Nato and Warsaw Pact hmm...

Oh, the joys of re-reading.

It appears some of my allies are too uncontent with the peace and autonomy that Mother Russia has given them. The Warsaw Pact was supposedly made with the promise of camaraderie and trust. All against a single purpose, I guess I was wrong.

In case it was not made clear enough. Russia will decimate any betraying countries.

If you seek to invade us, we will leave to you general winter.

Russia had thought that we could trust our allies, but it appears they have decided to jump ship for fear of Nato overwhelming.

Good day, your doors may be locked, but soon you won't have a door.

[Captain Blackadder]

France has much to atone for in Oceania, South America, the Caribbean and Africa, and against both Germanies, Czechoslovakia says.

Czechoslovakia knows that France's freedom is paved with blood of those who do not want "French Freedom"

Yet again you fail to answer the question. What do you think of the Soviet Unions actions in the prague spring againest your country and your countrymen?

[White_eyes:D]

Russia are going to deal with Somalia or not?? I feel you have no place in the Middle East if you let those "Pirates" run loose....since they well attack all the exports...:inquisitive:

[ULC]

Yet again you fail to answer the question. What do you think of the Soviet Unions actions in the prague spring againest your country and your countrymen?

Czechoslovakia does not answer to France, because France has no room to criticize. Come back when you are no longer a hypocrite, and Czechoslovakia will answer your question honestly.

[Centurion1]

White eyes your posturing is foolish. Tell me why should i fear you and your mighty nation. You are simply trying to overwhelm a smaller nation (somalia) so you can gain middle eastern dominance

[Captain Blackadder]

See I thought so, you are nothing you are too scared of the Soviet Union to say anything. You are not one to lecture me on freedom when you do not even have the freedom to say a single bad word againest the Soviet Union. Also what crimes againest Germany they invaded us 3 times in the last century and the Soviet Crimes againest Germany are infantly worse then anything we did or have you forgetton about the rape o Germany

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I hope that Turkey does not plan on actually invading Somalia. As that is simply out of the question :inquisitive:. it in of itself has done nothing to deserve such hostility.
I believe he is instead talking about using his naval forces to protect trade for NATO in the area, correct me if I am wrong? :inquisitive: Pirates are just that, pirates, and deserve no ones pity.

[Beskar]

Iran is happy to mediate talks between Somalia and Turkey if the need arises. Iran's neutral status might be handy. If problems kick off, I ask both nations to bring delegates to Tehran.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

which reminds me, Iran would you be open to talks about trade now that we have apologized to you officially?

[Beskar]

Trade discussions can be discussed, through appropriate channels (PM box. :D) and we would urge you as part of any deals, to remove NATO hostity in the Middle East. We only seek non-alignment, peace and mutual economic benefits with our neighbours, we don't want much.

[Death is yonder]

We know that Russia has "Paid" the Pirate Nation of Somalia to leave them and WARSAW alone....now I ask that you leave the Middle East unless you can keep those "Pirates" in-line...??:whip:

Russia has not paid the pirate nation of Somalia.

We have merely agreed on an agreement, I am not in direct control of those pirates and thus have no control over their actions, merely an agreement that he feels will be beneficial enough not to attack us.

Furthermore, the agreement is a limited duration only, we may revoke it at anytime and likewise, he may revoke his side of the agreement at any time. We only ask for notification.

It seems the world is degenerating into World War III, excellent! Political, dull, stagnating diplomacy has never been a plus.

To sum it off, Russia is associated only marginally with Somalia, we can neither trade nor ally with them (implied), but we may merely deal with them. We do not speak for them too, or have any control over them.

We implore Turkey to not over expect much from Russia in this matter and following lack of action, blame us for inaction.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I believe we should all take a minute to calm down. This talk of world war 3 is atrocious! it can not happen. Look around at yourselves! how many suffered during the first two world wars? we have no excuse for letting such mayhem happen once again.

[Centurion1]

I think we all need to look at the facts.
Have there been any pirate attacks?
No there havent so why are we worrying about something that may not even be true

[Beskar]

(In regards to Greyblades and YLC regarding economy, do we have to inform you when a trade resource is being uses, in regards to benefits? or we just keep the numbers to ourselves from what they told us?)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

This is Somalia we are talking about. There have been Pirate attacks, there is no denying that. wherever there is a sea without a centralized authority there will be pirates. I can only hope that by the new millenia we have dealt with these pirates and can finally trade in peace (:laugh4: that is going to happen)


(also, updated trade list on last page.)

[Beskar]

Discussions with Great Britain have been successful, we have decided to take up their offer of trade for the mutual benefit of both. I hope this serves to example to certain NATO members that Iran is willing to co-operate if you co-operate with us.

[Jolt]

I would like to state that China currently has trade agreements with all nations (it is one of my perks as a non-aligned nation.

Portugal, you must cease your harassment of our intrests about taiwan, do you truly believe your threats frighten us, if you intend to speak such big words then you must back them up with might.

Portugal merely speaks in the defence of the interests of peace and self determination. China is very wrong to take such a warning as a threat. By doing so, it merely appears to reflect the character of the belligerent nation, which ultimately can be compared to the likes of Hitler and Japan.

However, one must recall that the West has already shown its valor against belligerent nations, and China has suffered much through the hands of Japan, though apparently, its memory is short lived.

Portugal speaks not for itself, but as a member of the international community and of NATO itself, both of whom China is willingly opposing, with an added moral guilt of even being a permanent member of the Security Council of the United Nations, and being bound of, more than respecting but setting an example of the Declaration of Human Rights, within which all states are bound to strive their fullest to the maintenance of a peaceful international community. Furthermore, it is implying to attempt against the sovereignty of a major member of the NATO alliance. Further, any action in Taiwan has direct consequences in Macau, which is a territory under Portuguese administration. In spite of these declarations, it continues with the belligerent tone of calling our friendly warnings as threats. Portugal sincerely advises the Chinese government to tone down their statements as they do not contribute in any way for the pacification of an already agitated international arena.

[White_eyes:D]

I am not invading Somalia...:inquisitive: Only a fool would try and get involved there...:yes:

But I can't say the same for the "Pirates".....If Somalia is using them on me....I have a plan in place to wipe them out....but I don't wish to waste time with them....:whip: anyway, if Somalia still wants its "Pirates" together I would suggest not using them....:smash:

[ULC]

See I thought so, you are nothing you are too scared of the Soviet Union to say anything. You are not one to lecture me on freedom when you do not even have the freedom to say a single bad word againest the Soviet Union. Also what crimes againest Germany they invaded us 3 times in the last century and the Soviet Crimes againest Germany are infantly worse then anything we did or have you forgetton about the rape o Germany

Czechoslovakia can say whatever he wishes of the Soviets - but Czechoslovakia has nothing terrible to say about it, which is what you are trying to get Czechoslovakia to say. Yet another NATO member who tries to feed words to Czechoslovakia that are not it's own.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds, and we have every right to question your handling of diplomacy. If what you say is true, then we as Czechoslovakia, who can recognize that those we speak of, those you abuse, have less freedom then Czechoslovakia, then you it is you who are tyrannical, not Soviet Union.

France has stolen land from the Germanies, has intentionally destroyed it's infrastructure and territory after the Great War, is directly responsible for the rise of Hitler, and the proceeding shame of the Germans - but let us not forget Vichy France either. The French have ever endeavored to subjugate and weaken the Germanies, not because they are threat, but because France fears them. By doing so, France also makes everyone around Germany suffer.

Czechoslovakia suggests the French Ambassador watch his tongue, or something may bite it off.

[A Very Super Market]

Perhaps his own Frenchmen will eat it. :laugh4:

I foresee bad things happening to Turkey. They have brought it upon themselves. Instead of trying to alleviate the situation nicely, they chose to threaten us and will have to deal with us for as long as their transgression lasts.

[White_eyes:D]

Very well then.....I declare WAR!!!!! On Somalia Pirates:bow: and will not rest until they are wiped from the Sea, Land and Ocean:smash:

[Death is yonder]

Ooh boy. Here it comes.

The beginning of the great war.

Whiteeyes has provided the catalyst by which the world will fall into a debilitating war.

[White_eyes:D]

Just because I am attacking Pirates???:inquisitive: *Somalia takes no credit for them, so why is it so wrong to get rid of them??:shrug:*

Unless, of course your admitting that you WANT them to attack me??:smash:

[Death is yonder]

No, but where there is a war, there are always allies.

Greedy for a new spot in the world, your allies will vie for the territory. After all, they are "obliged" to help you in a war.


Unless, of course your admitting that you WANT them to attack me?? :smash:

We have no control over them, as I was saying earlier.

[Beefy187]

Iran has had talks with the nation of Japan. These people have announced their new peaceful outlook and intentions and we of Iran are forgiving of those who have seen the error of their former ways.

Iran will happily now trade with Japan. I am assured we will get metal statues called "Gundams" and the "3rd Dragon Ball" to use as it's energy source. We are not sure what is meant by these remarks, but Iran embraces honourable intentions.

Yay we get Persian carpets :2thumbsup:

[A Very Super Market]

Declaring war on pirates? A bit redundant, I believe. Since you aren't landing troops in Somalia itself, can I just assume that things haven't changed at all?

[Caius]

Is your empire not forged in tyranny??
Is your empire forged in tyranny?? Gotta love Soviet Rhetoric Speeches.


The beginning of the great war.
Great? Blowing the world with Soviet bombs is Great? Your Nuclear threats are Great, but wars aren't great!


manipulated only to suit the Kapitalist scums and their... democracy...
In America, you can make your OWN desitions. In Soviet Russia, you simply can't.


Iran hasn't forgotten the Tyranny America(/NATO) brought upon us. We are still seeking apologises or amendments in the form of sending us the Shah to be tried, our frozen assests (guessing in game terms, so economic stimulus to us) and for you to cut funding of madmen with Weapons of Mass Destruction in the Middle East, and other projects such as Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden
We would like to discuss the liberation of the Shah as you request. Also, we would like to talk with your diplomats. May conversation rule over hatred?


After all, they are "obliged" to help you in a war.
Once more you are wrong. NATO was created to attack communism, yet your intentions of controling Somalian Pirates could make us to take actions against Somalia. So far, in his words, White_Eyes:D declared war on Somalia, not NATO declared war on Somalia. The reports of the trade between Somalia and the Warsaw Pact are true, we know the facts.


Czechoslovakia does not like how NATO handles diplomacy - Czechoslovakia respects each nations right to self determination, and dislikes how NATO seems fine with giving some democracy, but others tyranny.

NATO doesn't handle democracy, the countries that take part on it they do. They are free, and if they don't like how things are, they VOTE. In Soviet Russia, they choose who will be the sucessor. Like if Russian Tsares were chosen by a few. Like the Old Elite they "fight".

[Death is yonder]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah! Blah bla... blah blah blah blah blah! Freedom blah blah Nato blah blah we bla bla blah blah blah.

Russia for the lose blah blah blah blah blah false implications blah blah blah blah

:beam:

:clown:

:smash:



Once more you are wrong. NATO was created to attack communism, yet your intentions of controling Somalian Pirates could make us to take actions against Somalia. So far, in his words, White_Eyes:D declared war on Somalia, not NATO declared war on Somalia. The reports of the trade between Somalia and the Warsaw Pact are true, we know the facts.


We do not control Somalia, how many times must I say it. :stare:

You know the facts, goodie.

Now what,

Caius: We has also infiltrated your quicktopic and made all your allies and immediate neighbors want to back stab you. Ha. Ha. Ha. We win, Warsaw Pact = N00bz. Nato = Ftw

Soon we will "liberate" the poor peasantry under your dictatorship.

Accurate enough, no?:beam:

[ULC]

NATO doesn't handle democracy, the countries that take part on it they do. They are free, and if they don't like how things are, they VOTE. In Soviet Russia, they choose who will be the sucessor. Like if Russian Tsares were chosen by a few. Like the Old Elite they "fight".

Czechslovakia realizes NATO does not handle democracy - look at South America, and you can see NATO wants nothing to do with Democracy, only stability.

I am sure Argentines and Peruvians are free to choose whom to elect.

[A Very Super Market]

I was not aware that China and Iran are part of the Warsaw pact. I did not even know that the Germans conquered them in WWII. Interesting...

[Caius]

NATO is not involved in any way with South America. Yet, the Cuban revolution does any good? Do the FARC do any well? Montoneros? Those involve Communism, and what are they doing? Creating chaos, implanting fear in the population, kidnapping and torturating.

Who is the good one now? Communism is a threat. The Worst one.


Soon we will "liberate" the poor peasantry under your dictatorship.Soon we will "liberate" the poor peasantry under your dictatorship.
There is a Western saying that says "It is worse the remedy than the sickness."

OOC: Get your characters a name, so I can play with them.

[Death is yonder]

OOC:

http://mashable.com/2009/07/10/imageshack-hacked/

@Greyblades, this is the message displayed.

I think that hopefully the situation will resolve itself eventually, please ignore my request for resend, it will not work anyway.

:bow:

[Khazaar]

East Germany trades with:
CCCP
Cuba
India
China
Iran
Somalia
West Germany
Japan

We offer Trade to Turkey.

[Beefy187]

East Germany trades with:
CCCP
Cuba
India
China
Iran
Somalia
West Germany

We offer Trade to Turkey and Japan.

Sure

Question to YLC.
Whats the effect of trading with NPC country?
Also, if I help a country with infrastructure, would it benefit me?

[Greyblades]

OOC:

http://mashable.com/2009/07/10/imageshack-hacked/

@Greyblades, this is the message displayed.

I think that hopefully the situation will resolve itself eventually, please ignore my request for resend, it will not work anyway.

:bow:

My pictures are unnaffected as of this point besides I have a while Picures folder full of backups.
Oh and by the way the phase ends in 5 hours.

[Captain Blackadder]

Czechoslovakia can say whatever he wishes of the Soviets - but Czechoslovakia has nothing terrible to say about it, which is what you are trying to get Czechoslovakia to say. Yet another NATO member who tries to feed words to Czechoslovakia that are not it's own.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds, and we have every right to question your handling of diplomacy. If what you say is true, then we as Czechoslovakia, who can recognize that those we speak of, those you abuse, have less freedom then Czechoslovakia, then you it is you who are tyrannical, not Soviet Union.

France has stolen land from the Germanies, has intentionally destroyed it's infrastructure and territory after the Great War, is directly responsible for the rise of Hitler, and the proceeding shame of the Germans - but let us not forget Vichy France either. The French have ever endeavored to subjugate and weaken the Germanies, not because they are threat, but because France fears them. By doing so, France also makes everyone around Germany suffer.

Czechoslovakia suggests the French Ambassador watch his tongue, or something may bite it off.

Bahh if you think that the Soviet response to the Prague Spring was a good thing and the right thing then you are no true Czech so many people were furious at that turn of events.

As for the people we supposibly exploit where is the exploitation? We held a free vote in 1956 and everyone except for New Guinea voted to remain in the french community there was no recriminations againest Guinea for their views and 5 years later they held another referendum and they were all granted their independence from france. Which is something that could not happen in the Soviet Bloc for as the russian said anyone attempting to leave the bloc will be invaded.


As for France wanting to weaken Germany I suggest you look to your own backyard before talking about that. The Soviet Union stole Königsberg and East Prussia key parts of the German people. They stole 10% of German GDP. As for Vichy France they were traitors and were arreasted and tried after the war and were executed like the dogs they were.However your master Stalin is still considered a hero even though he was an ally of Hitler and invaded Poland.

[Death is yonder]

As for France wanting to weaken Germany I suggest you look to your own backyard before talking about that. The Soviet Union stole Königsberg and East Prussia key parts of the German people. They stole 10% of German GDP. As for Vichy France they were traitors and were arreasted and tried after the war and were executed like the dogs they were.However your master Stalin is still considered a hero even though he was an ally of Hitler and invaded Poland.

Russia said that anyone attempting to betray us. There is a difference between leaving the Warsaw Pact peacefully and becoming a neutral power and leaving the Warsaw Pact, joining Nato, divulging secrets that were trusted to them, and working against us, all for greater benefits that were supposed to be given (possibly is) for joining Nato.

Tell me French man, How many MORE people from YOUR countries would have died, have their blood shed, HOW MUCH MORE money would your taxpayers have to pay to support the war, IF the Soviet Union had not been on your side?

Over 250000 Germans were killed, half a million wounded, 25000 MIA, 2000+ Aircraft destroyed, and nearly 3000 tanks, all of which pretty superior.

At what cost? Millions of our men captured and wounded, nearly a million killed tens of thousands of tanks and aircraft lost.

This was merely in Operation Barbarossa.

Our Sacrifice (/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(WWII))

Tell me, what would you have done if we were an Axis power? By 1942, we would control from France, to Kamchatka, to Singapore, to Japan, and many parts of Africa. When would you win?? How would you win??

You speak of your own sacrifices Frenchman, but you forget ours.

Stalin is a hero not for naught.

[Captain Blackadder]

Why did you not join in from the start?No you made a pact with the devil in Hitler you sat by an gained from the Nazis. Do not paint the eastern front as some kind of noble sacrifice on Russias part. You only fought because you were forced to you were all to happy to dismember Poland with the Nazis and kill thousands of Poles in cold blood. France sacrificed much during that war half a million frenchmen died in that war in only a few mounths.

[pevergreen]

Don't be bringing us into this. Germany remains out of the *%&$^ fight thank you very much.

[Captain Blackadder]

Russia said that anyone attempting to betray us. There is a difference between leaving the Warsaw Pact peacefully and becoming a neutral power and leaving the Warsaw Pact, joining Nato, divulging secrets that were trusted to them, and working against us, all for greater benefits that were supposed to be given (possibly is) for joining Nato.

Tell me French man, How many MORE people from YOUR countries would have died, have their blood shed, HOW MUCH MORE money would your taxpayers have to pay to support the war, IF the Soviet Union had not been on your side?

Over 250000 Germans were killed, half a million wounded, 25000 MIA, 2000+ Aircraft destroyed, and nearly 3000 tanks, all of which pretty superior.

At what cost? Millions of our men captured and wounded, nearly a million killed tens of thousands of tanks and aircraft lost.

This was merely in Operation Barbarossa.

Our Sacrifice (/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(WWII))

Tell me, what would you have done if we were an Axis power? By 1942, we would control from France, to Kamchatka, to Singapore, to Japan, and many parts of Africa. When would you win?? How would you win??

You speak of your own sacrifices Frenchman, but you forget ours.

Stalin is a hero not for naught.

So then why did you invade the Czech when they wanted to leave in 1968, they did not betray you but simply wanted to peacfully leave the warsaw pact?

[ULC]

Czechoslovakia is sorry to the Germanies. Czechoslovakia had declared it's support for them, but France then decided to dig deeper and bring up old wounds. Czechoslovakia realizes this is not the best game for France, and so will not attack an unarmed man.

And Stalin was not so much a hero, as was the proletariat - it was they that died fighting in droves to protect themselves and their freedom. It was there noble sacrifice which was noble, and by virtue, that of all Russia - that which was inflicted upon the Germans was a kneejerk reaction to the atrocities Germany committed.

[Khazaar]

I would advise you all to leave Moralities out of the discussion, you can only loose. You can think what you want about Stalin, but the USA and England allied with Stalin knowing full well what he was capable off. Both England and America negotiated with Stalin behind the other partners back. England (who joind the war because of Germans invasion of Poland) accepted the fact that Poland would be stripped of half it´s territory. The fact is, without the German Russian conflict the full might of the Nazi army would have overrun England and North africa. Millions of russians died so the USA and England could take their time and build up an Army to Attack Hitler. Never forget what the Red Army did for the West as well.
Every nation commits despicable acts to consolidate it´s power, this is not about democracy or freedom, this is soley about the superiority of one system over another.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

We all made decisions in world war 2 that were hard on our countries. And for his help in that difficult struggle I have to at least Grudgingly respect Stalin. I will not be dragged in to some kind of discussion of morality during world war 2, we all did what we had to.

[ULC]

Czechoslovakia disagrees with that you did what you had to. Czechoslovakia believes much could have been solved if France, Italy, and Britian had not be so hard on Germany in WWI, and that the USA and Britian would have had more of a spine during before WW2.

Czechoslovakia believes much could have been done better, instead of allowing for slothfulness and greed to be victors.

[Centurion1]

Portugal speaks not for itself, but as a member of the international community and of NATO itself, both of whom China is willingly opposing, with an added moral guilt of even being a permanent member of the Security Council of the United Nations, and being bound of, more than respecting but setting an example of the Declaration of Human Rights, within which all states are bound to strive their fullest to the maintenance of a peaceful international community. Furthermore, it is implying to attempt against the sovereignty of a major member of the NATO alliance. Further, any action in Taiwan has direct consequences in Macau, which is a territory under Portuguese administration. In spite of these declarations, it continues with the belligerent tone of calling our friendly warnings as threats. Portugal sincerely advises the Chinese government to tone down their statements as they do not contribute in any way for the pacification of an already agitated international arena.

You claim that i oppose nato. Hah, I oppose no one i am fully in the moral clear. i support no one nation over another. I do not participate in your petty squabbles of east versus west, to claim i do so is foolish. You fear for losing a territory i have no intrest in you should watch your tongue sir

[Death is yonder]

Russia will drop the matter if Mr De Gaulle drops the matter as well.

Both he and the diplomatic envoy of America are constantly mocking at our governments. They bring up morality issues and how our lands were united and the supposed tyranny of our rule.

You know what Russia finds funny? The fact that despite our "flawed" regime, we are as superior, if not more superior, than your countries.

Russia will cease to comment on this matter questioning the past policies that were initiated by past leaders and not our current Russia.

Russia has but a new government that is slowly giving in more leeway to the common folk.

Change must be done slowly, too fast, and the people will want everything, and there will be chaos! Revolution!

Would you rather have a controlled Russia united? Willing to see and listen to reason and diplomacy, or a Russia lawless and full of criminals and thugs, willing only to at the very most deal in cloak and dagger diplomacy with you, agreeing to stand down in return for monetary gains, then backstabbing you in the back as you walk away.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Czechoslovakia disagrees with that you did what you had to. Czechoslovakia believes much could have been solved if France, Italy, and Britian had not be so hard on Germany in WWI, and that the USA and Britian would have had more of a spine during before WW2.

Czechoslovakia believes much could have been done better, instead of allowing for slothfulness and greed to be victors.

The fact is what you are saying is that we should have been lighter on Germany, a nation which had STARTED THE WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE! Should we have commended his actions and given him a slap on the wrist? would that have made up for the thousands killed because of his actions? A war of that magnitude has to have consequences. And so we gave them consequences.

More spine? Czeckoslovakia, if you had just lost thousands of good men to a war would you be eager to rush in to another one? NO, I am done trying to reason about Our actions in world war 1 and 2. It is obvious you have no idea the kind of decisions we were faced with.

( perhaps we should not swing to Farly into this. We may hit the back room at our rate)

[ULC]

The fact is what you are saying is that we should have been lighter on Germany, a nation which had STARTED THE WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE! Should we have commended his actions and given him a slap on the wrist? would that have made up for the thousands killed because of his actions? A war of that magnitude has to have consequences. And so we gave them consequences.

More spine? Czeckoslovakia, if you had just lost thousands of good men to a war would you be eager to rush in to another one? NO, I am done trying to reason about Our actions in world war 1 and 2. It is obvious you have no idea the kind of decisions we were faced with.

( perhaps we should not swing to Farly into this. We may hit the back room at our rate)

Your actions during WWI where over the top and unnecessary, and it was not Germany who started it, but Austria-Hungary! Germany did not need to be stripped of it's power, but you did so because you feared them! Your actions, which destroyed the economy of Germany, allowed Hitler to fill a hole that had developed!

It was your greed and apathy which allowed it all to happen, this Czechoslovakia knows. Czechoslovakia awaits the westerns to finally admit that they created the monster, which allowed Soviet Union to sweep in and claim many of the Eastern Bloc nations. Czechoslovakia waits to hear how France freed Vietnam, how the US was kind to Ho Chi Mihn, how the British treated South Afrikaners.

When you are all done admitting your own faults, Czechoslovakia knows that with what little wisdom you all have, that you will cease to call Soviet Union "monster".

[Greyblades]

You have 1 hour left to get any orders in.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Your actions during WWI where over the top and unnecessary, and it was not Germany who started it, but Austria-Hungary! Germany did not need to be stripped of it's power, but you did so because you feared them! Your actions, which destroyed the economy of Germany, allowed Hitler to fill a hole that had developed!

It was your greed and apathy which allowed it all to happen, this Czechoslovakia knows. Czechoslovakia awaits the westerns to finally admit that they created the monster, which allowed Soviet Union to sweep in and claim many of the Eastern Bloc nations. Czechoslovakia waits to hear how France freed Vietnam, how the US was kind to Ho Chi Mihn, how the British treated South Afrikaners.

When you are all done admitting your own faults, Czechoslovakia knows that with what little wisdom you all have, that you will cease to call Soviet Union "monster".

have I personally called the soviets monsters? I have not, they are simply a nation doing what it believes is necessary for its people. I respect that, but that does not make him any more my friend.
It is now you who are putting words in OUR mouths Czechoslovakia.
Germany was allied with the Austrians, they both wanted that war, and both were punished.

I am done talking now. You can not be reasoned with.

(OOC: also I seem to be getting conflicting reports on who I should be sending economic orders to, Greybaldes says its YLC, YLC says its greyblades. I am horrible confused. :sweatdrop:)

[Beskar]

(you send to both.)

[Caius]

At what cost? Millions of our men captured and wounded, nearly a million killed tens of thousands of tanks and aircraft lost.
We recognize the effort made by Soviets, but Stalin, hero? He made 10 millon of proletariat starve to death and killed 40 millons of enemies of the state.

[Caius]

I am trading with:
The UK
Portugal
China.

[Greyblades]

Phase over I'm doing the results of the actions now and I should have the writeup from ATPG by tomorrow.

[Greyblades]

I realy need to do the research more thoroughly India is not russias ally they just had good relations.

[Askthepizzaguy]

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ClipArt-Newspaper1.jpg

=== WAR!!! ===

New Turkish-Syrian Conflict

BBC News reports that the Republic of Turkey has invaded the Syrian Arab Republic in a blitzkrieg-style attack which quickly swept though the smaller country, obliterating most of the resistance. Turkish forces now occupy roughly 90% of Syrian land. International observers have condemned these attacks, and several nations are now recalling their ambassadors. Tensions between NATO and the Eastern Bloc have increased due to the outbreak of hostilities. The British government has yet to issue a statement, as Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher was last seen telling the press to quote "piss off." Also, here is an image of the Syrian flag. Professional, ain't it?

FULL STORY ON PAGE SIX


https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/800px-Flag_of_Syriasvg.png

Reuters: IRAN ATTACKS IRAQ, IRAQ SMACKS BACK

Violence has broken out along the Iraq-Iran border, as Iran's Revolutionary guard and Basij paramilitary forces clash with Iraq's defense forces in the province of Sulaymaniyah and Arbil. Iraqi President Saddam Hussein vowed that the great nation of Iraq would never fall to an invasion force. Reports from the war zone are limited due to both nations exerting severe control over the free press. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of Iran declared that Saddam was a puppet of the evil West and stated that it was "Allah's divine will that he be squashed like a little itty bitty bug, splat, just like that." Many Islamic clerics began smashing insects in a show of support for the Ayatollah's words.

FULL STORY ON PAGE EIGHT, NEXT TO THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR CHELOW KEBAB.


ARAB NATIONS SEZ: 'EY, LEAVE OUR FRIENDS ALONE, INFIDEL!!!

Egypt and Saudi Arabia both have withdrawn their diplomats from Turkey and Iran, and have pledged full military support for Iraq and Syria. The Saudi Prince was quoted as saying "Dude, that's not cool", and the Egyptian president issued the following statement: "DEATH TO IRAN!!! Allahlalalalalalalalalalalalalalalah". The armed forces of both countries were slow to respond, due to the fact that it is really really hot over there and there's like sand everywhere and stuff. Also, try the kebab advertised on page eight, it's rly gud.

FULL STORY WHEN I FEEL LIKE IT.

EXPLOSIVE NEWS: CHOO CHOO OF DOOM CAUSES GERMAN GLOOM

A train explodied inside a station in West Berlin. It was full of Turkeys for some reason. The government of West Germany condemned the terrorist attack. The German Chancellor was quoted as saying something in German, and he seemed really pissed. In other news, it does appear as though there will be plenty to eat for Thanksgiving. One young woman was seen near her child, who was playing on the railroad tracks, sobbing uncontrollably. She stated that the meat was too dry, and it seriously needed gravy.

FULL STORY ON PAGE TEN.

IRA TO FASCIST GOVERNMENT: WE'RE HAMMERED, AND YOU'RE NAILED!

A nail bomb exploded in Ullister, which is a very interesting place I can't even find on Google. But there it is. The Irish Republican Army issued a slurred statement claiming credit for the attack, and they seemed very proud to have successfully pulled it off after last night's drinking contest. The British government condemned the attacks, and many indignant Brits were seen dumping their tea onto the ground for their fallen homies. Word.

FULL STORY ON PAGE ELEVENTEEN.

IN OTHER NEWS

The Cold war rages on. Tensions between NATO and Warsaw Pact counties are increasing due to the outbreak of hostilities across the globe between nations. Both sides have their nervous, sweaty fingers over the button, but are too chicken to push it. Cluck cluck cluck.

[Greyblades]

That was abit goofier than I was intending but sure.
Ladies and gents meet my writeup-er I was expecting to be sent it in a PM so I can put it with my own parts of the writeup but this works too.
Its Ulster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster)by the way.

[A Very Super Market]

Oh look, Turkey is looking to blitz it's way through the Middle East. An I thought the days of the Ottomans were over. Will you start raising your sons in harems again, sultan?

[White_eyes:D]

No, I will withdraw on this phase peacefully as I attacked:bow:

Edit:Did anyone else do anything??? Man, you guys are slow....the NPC's country's fight back you know....:laugh4:

[Beskar]

Erm... that report doesn't sound quite right to what the orders were... my orders weren't just "attack Iraq". I did orders before that in regards to Iraq and attack Iraq was based on the success of those orders. (not sure they were done or not, but the write-up doesn't reflect my orders)

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'll send it to you via PM next time. :laugh4: If you want me to add, edit, just send me a PM with the changes.

[Caius]

The Cold war rages on. Tensions between NATO and Warsaw Pact counties are increasing due to the outbreak of hostilities across the globe between nations. Both sides have their nervous, sweaty fingers over the button, but are too chicken to push it. Cluck cluck cluck.

Where does this newspaper come from?

[Greyblades]

Erm... that report doesn't sound quite right to what the orders were... my orders weren't just "attack Iraq". I did orders before that in regards to Iraq and attack Iraq was based on the success of those orders. (not sure they were done or not, but the write-up doesn't reflect my orders)

Well I wasnt intending to have this posted before I had finished the PM's.

[White_eyes:D]

Hmmm......why did I have such success with Syria??? and why did Beskar fail with his invasion??:juggle2:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Be sure to direct questions about actions to the host; I only see the results he gives me and do writeups based on that info. I have no idea what your orders even were.