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GeneralHankerchief
10-09-2009, 05:00
Night 4 has ended, no more orders will be accepted.

Processing now.

a completely inoffensive name
10-09-2009, 05:14
Please post the write up soon so I don't have to read anymore of ATPG's/Diana's love life or pever's quest for a threesome.

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 05:15
You were watching us???














Perv. :laugh4:

miotas
10-09-2009, 05:19
I be willin to go fer a ménage à trois, but only ef the parrot be involved...

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 05:21
I shudder to ask what you want to do to my girlfriend and a dead parrot.

PLEASE tell me it is a Monty Python skit.

a completely inoffensive name
10-09-2009, 05:23
I shudder to ask what you want to do to my girlfriend and a dead parrot.

PLEASE tell me it is a Monty Python skit.

How would adding a snake make it better?

miotas
10-09-2009, 05:32
Well this monty fella can add 'is pyton and make et four ef 'e wants.

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 05:46
Regarding said extracurricular nighttime activities:

The clown can stay, but the Ferengi in the gorilla suit has to go...

a completely inoffensive name
10-09-2009, 05:51
@ATPG
I think it is shameful to talk so openly about what acts you and your loved one does in the privacy of your home.

[All right, I think the line was just crossed. Let's keep it easy until I post the summary - GH]

The line must be drawn here!-ACIN (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGF1NP-FrCU)

Diana Abnoba
10-09-2009, 05:57
Well we have really gone off the deep end, and if you add all the post from 1250-1258 to the mix, I think now it goes from 37 states to 50 plus I sure many overseas.

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 06:02
The key to proper innuendo is to make it disturbing, but in such a way that only the most creative mind still has any clue as to what you're saying, while you're still not actually saying anything at all.

:7teacher:

a completely inoffensive name
10-09-2009, 06:05
Troll's are blunt. That's like rule 1 in the manual.

GeneralHankerchief
10-09-2009, 06:41
Night 4

Four sailors aboard the Presence woke up. Looking around, they nodded to each other, and slowly made their way above decks. They had had quite enough the conditions on the ship, and they were going to make things right. They walked outside, greeted by a fierce gust of wind and driving rain, the kind of storm that only a long voyage at sea could truly prepare you for. After a momentary adjustment period, the four of them drew their cutlasses in unison. The sound of the swords being unsheathed could barely be heard over the rain and the wind and the thunder. It was better that way. Their target was probably expecting something like this, but even the smallest element of surprise could be enough to enough to turn the tide their way.

And as the Presence rocked and swayed in the ocean, the four vigilantes made their way to the Captain's cabin, where Askthepizzaguy would face pirate justice.


Below decks, another sailor was roused from his sleep. This was done rather forcibly, as at one instant he was dreaming of bliss and peace, and at the next instant was being literally dragged across the room, a foreign hand clamped firmly over his mouth. It went like this until they were up the stairs and above deck, at which point it was useless to scream. The sailor and his kidnapper both realized that the wind would capture any cry for help.

Instead, the kidnapper silently dragged the sailor closer and closer to the ship's edge, the plank looming ever closer. The sailor looked at the kidnapper questioningly, and then fell back in surprise as he took a boot to the chest. Losing his balance on an already unstable boat, the sailor dropped, the only thing keeping him from being lost at sea forever was his arm lock around the thankfully-sturdy plank. The kidnapper only stared at this sight for a while before finally grinning.

Abandoning all thoughts of logic, the sailor started screaming, uncaring for the futility of the act. This only seemed to amuse the kidnapper more. The screaming went on for a while, and little by little the sailor was starting to lose his grip on the slippery plank. Finally, the kidnapper seemed to have enough and finally leaned down, speaking loudly and clearly.

"Would you like to get out of this situation?"

The sailor nodded vigorously.

"Would you do anything to get out of it?"

The sailor nodded again. He didn't care. He had paid his debt, swabbed the decks more times than he cared to count. He was a good man, had done his part in Charleston and numerous missions before that. He didn't deserve to be another one of the countless men who had simply disappeared at night, claimed by the angry sea.

"Would you accept an offer by the Crown in order to reclaim the valuables of Charleston in exchange for your freedom?"

The sailor nodded once again, his horizons quickly adjusted. The kidnapper finally extended a hand and pulled up his new accomplice. The sailor walked with him back below deck, chatting business. He had helped pull off the steal of the decade from Charleston; he would now work to give it all back.


The vigilante crew on Askthepizzaguy had arrived at the doors to the Captain's cabin. Unlike Beefy187 of the night before, the didn't bother wasting time by knocking. Instead, one man kicked the door in, and they rushed into the cabin, not taking any time to admire the luxuries the officers enjoyed. Instead, they searched for their target.

Pizzaguy did not disappoint, walking out of his quarters, fully-dressed and armed for battle with his officer's sword.

"Hello, gentlemen," he said tonelessly. "I've been expecting you."

"You die tonight, Quartermaster," one of them responded. "We be havin' just about enough the way this ship be run, and we'd be likin' to make some changes 'round here. First demand: You, dead."

"Consider the complaint noted," Pizzaguy replied. "I be referrin' it to me staff. Expect an answer from them right about... now," he said, and several more figures rushed out from behind another door, their cutlasses raised. The vigilante group, a bit taken aback, charged forward, and the battle was on.


Back outside the Captain's quarters, in the cold and wet nightmare that was the storm, flashes of lightning illuminated a large problem for scottishranger. No matter where he was on the ship, he could always see four figures with cutlasses, always approaching, always drawing closer. As the endless night wore on and scottish kept trying to outmaneuver his pursuers, he gradually became more and more paranoid, eventually having several brushes with insanity itself.

At first, he wondered why his pursuers were going after him. Then, after accepting that they *were* coming after him and realizing that he probably shouldn't question why and instead focus on survival, he wondered why they never seemed to tire. He wondered why they weren't being affected by this hellish weather. Then, he wondered if they could even feel the rain, the heavy swaying of the ship. He started to wonder if his pursuers were even human at all, or simply beings from another plane come to take him early.

"OH, GOD!" he cried out, his scream lost to the wind. "It's the Four Horsemen! They've come for me! It's just as they prophesied! The Seventh Seal! Revelation! Pestilence! War! Famine! Death! O, Discordia! The end times have come! A crew we were as living, and so a crew we shall be when dead! Ah, rue it, for the End Times are here!" He babbled along like that incoherently for a while, forgetting about all means of escape from the "Horsemen". Eventually, one of them put him out of his misery by beheading the knelt scottishranger as they simply walked by, much as a mounted man with a scythe might do.


In the Captain's Quarters, a fierce battle was taking place, which was quite loud and shredded lots of furniture and putting lots of slash marks in the wooden walls. Askthepizzaguy, despite having a protection group looking out for him and being the sole target of his attackers, was very much in the fray.

Despite Pizzaguy's presence, though, the outcome of the battle was very much in the air. The combatants were so evenly matched that it looked like it was coming down to whoever would tire first. Finally, however, one of the members of Pizzaguy's bodyguards took another one aside and hissed in his ear, "the table, matey! Drop it down and use it as a barricade!" The two men did so, attacking the vigilante group's legs and throwing them off balance.

Little by little, thanks to the table's protection, the vigilante group was being forced back. They all started attacking even fiercer, but it was just not to be. Momentum was not on their side, and eventually they found themselves back in the deluge, helplessly banging on the now-reinforced door. After about five minutes of this, they decided to call it quits and trudged back below deck.

Not one of them saw Andres get grabbed from behind and dragged off to the side.


DisgruntledGoat couldn't sleep. He was always a light sleeper, and in a storm of this magnitude, forget it. He had long learned to make do with it. Most of the time, it involved heavy amounts of rum. Another Presence crewman was keeping him company, the two of them looking out at the storm and whistling in amazement.

"Y'know," the second sailor said to Goat, "they say they had a storm like this at Port Royal the night before the earthquake." Goat only looked at him quizzically.

"Arr, ye don't know about the earthquake?" the second sailor said, with almost an indignant expression on his face. "What's this world comin' to, when somebody in our business doesn't know about the earthquake or the town it hit? I be gettin' too old for this, methinks."

"No no, go on," Goat said. "I be wantin' to hear about this."

"Very well," said the second sailor. "Basically, Port Royal was the Nassau of a generation or two ago, only a lot more so. Founded by the Spanish, taken by the English, it relied on privateers for its defense. Back then, the Crown said Spanish ships were fair game, so business was boomin' and as a result Port Royal thrived. Those lucky scallywags did everything they did and more, and they even had the protection of the bleedin' English! Those were the days," the second sailor sighed, trailing off for a moment before resuming.

"Anyway, Port Royal was the home base of the great pirate Morgan, who led many-a-raid on the Spanish, all from Port Royal. And Port Royal continued to grow, serving our particular clientele. At one point, 'twas the second largest English city in the New World. Eventually, though, times changed. The Crown made nice with Spain and cracked down. Morgan was installed as Lieutenant Governor of Port Royal and later Governor itself, if memory serves. He pretty much tried to put a stop to the piracy, and while he was somewhat successful he could never quite clamp it down entirely. Eventually he died, and still the trade the city did flourished. I be rememberin' one learned man back on the ship a few summers back, readin' somebody describin' Port Royal as 'a modern-day Sodom'. It was just askin' for a smitin', everybody knew it, even us folk.

"Eventually, it came. Giant, nasty earthquake, sank darn near half the city. Legend has it it uncovered Morgan's coffin and the newly-sloped ground took it right into the sea, as if it had decided to initiate this entire devastatin' act just to rightfully reclaim one of its greatest conquerors. But first, there was the storm. Beautiful time o'year, late spring, early summer, just like this. And then the temperature just drops. The rain comes, and so does the wind. God's opening act, some said. An early warning to those still religious enough to heed the signs." He tailed off for another moment before finally snapping back into it.

"The most interesting part though, is just how everything... sank. When the sea is hungry, me lad, it will be fed. And right now... the sea be hungry," he finished, ripping a hole in DisgruntledGoat's chest with his cutlass and tossing him overboard.


Andres, meanwhile, was trying to break away from the grip of the man who had snatched him away from his group. The rain in this case was a double-edged sword; he was able to break free, but always slipped and fell when he tried to run away.

"Curse this weather!" he cried aloud. It seemed like the wind would take this one as well, but his kidnapper seemed to hear it. Andres could see an unearthly glow in this man's eyes, his yellow, remaining teeth grinning eerily.

A flash of lightning illuminated even more features about this man, Andres noticed. Most striking out of all of them was a blunderbuss, pointed directly at him. The sheer absurdity and shock of it all overwhelmed Andres, who began to cackle.

"What? You really expect that thing to work?" Andres burst out between bouts of hysterical laughter.

The figure said nothing, only drawing closer.

"Be... be ye kiddin' me?" he said, the laughter a bit more nervous this time.

The figure said nothing.

"Come on!" he finally shouted, ready to finally crack from all the pressure he had been under the past few days. "The Almighty Himself be takin' a shower right now in this! No way that thing can stand up and still work!"

Finally, the figure spoke. "Bess?" he said gruffly. "Bess don't care 'bout gettin' wet." He then pulled the trigger, and Bess's mouth erupted in a brief flash of fire.

The last thing Andres noticed before he died, his blood being quickly washed away by the rain, was how much Bess's nozzle, smoking afterwards, reminded him of a woman enjoying some tobacco after finishing the physical act of love.


The sun finally rose, and with it the rain tailed off. It didn't leave entirely, as a light and steady drizzle would fall throughout the entire day, but it was enough to make the sailors feel human again. Mother Nature had claimed most of the crew's work over the night, but the remaining days and the roll call told Captain Crazed Rabbit all he needed to know. In addition, his quarters were also trashed. It seemed like the only part of the Presence that was in good condition was, well... the Presence itself.

Halfheartedly, almost zombie-like, Captain Rabbit walked the crew through the process as usual. This would be a quiet day for everyone after the apocalyptic storm of the previous night. As a matter of fact, it was only halfway through the voting that he remembered to tell the crew the results of the crew that had earlier.

"Well lads," he said, we be makin' progress. atheotes and woad&fangs were good honest sailors, but gibsonsg91921 was a dirty rotten traitor who meant to steal all our treasure and make off with it to the Maven. If nothin' else encourages ye, at least hang on to that.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It is now Day 5. The round will end Saturday, October 10th at 12:01 PM US Eastern.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Attacked: Centurion1 (n1), LittleGrizzly (n1), taka (n2), Andres (n3), Askthepizzaguy (n4)

Murdered: LittleGrizzly (n1), atheotes (n2), gibsonsg91921 (n2), Tratorix (n3), Iskander 3.1 (n3), Beefy187 (n3), scottishranger (n4), DisgruntledGoat (n4), Andres (n4)

Lynched: woad&fangs (d2), Sigurd (d3), Jolt (d4)

Removed from play: Xehh II, johnhughthom, YLC

Souls aboard (36):
a completely inoffensive name
A Very Super Market
A1 Unit
Askthepizzaguy
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Chaotix
CountArach
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Death is Yonder
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Joooray
Khazaar
KukriKhan
Lord Winter
Louis VI the Fat
miotas
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Reenk Roink
ricera10
Sasaki Kojiro
Seamus Fermanagh
shlin28
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
SSNeoperestroika
Subotan
taka
TinCow
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan

pevergreen
10-09-2009, 06:51
uuuh right.

So..2 maven (1 if Sigurd was maven) and 5!!!! british.


We're boned.

Tratorix
10-09-2009, 07:21
Oh cruel fate, to be thusly boned!

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 07:22
Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.


Rest assured, all of those men who attacked me last night shall taste my cheesy wrath.

pevergreen
10-09-2009, 07:34
Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.

Good memories of the book. Did it for english. An audio monologue recording.


That was pretty good for not handing in a draft. Oh hoh RAFAEL OH HOH. OH DUNCAN!!! DUNCAN WHY HAVE YOU NOT GIVEN ME YOUR ASSIGNMENT YOU NAUGHTY BOY HOHOHOH

I was amused.

miotas
10-09-2009, 08:00
:shocked:
Arrrrr, pever be admitin to be workin for the english. YARRRRR!

pevergreen
10-09-2009, 08:04
:laugh4:

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 08:11
So what did you do last night, miotas?

CountArach
10-09-2009, 08:33
Not much to go on from gibsong's posts, unfortunately.

EDIT: His death's write-up indicates he was vig killed (at least the 4 people would indicate that). Have those who were involved in this vig killing been revealed in-thread without me noticing? Because those people are almost certainly cleared of being Maven.

miotas
10-09-2009, 08:34
So Mr. Kill Me I Know's Too Much be wantin more info?

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 08:34
Got something to hide, perhaps?

miotas
10-09-2009, 09:03
Arrrr, I'll admit that the whole kills me or die situation, that got you to be the quartermaster doesn't ring true with me, but I ain't be tryin' ta kill ye if that be what your sayin'.

Andres
10-09-2009, 09:04
Gah. Dead.

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 09:05
So why not answer the question, before I throws ye into the brig. What did you do last night, miotas?

Andres
10-09-2009, 09:25
Arrrr, I'll admit that the whole kills me or die situation, that got you to be the quartermaster doesn't ring true with me, but I ain't be tryin' ta kill ye if that be what your sayin'.

Are you the one who killed me?

Find the one who killed me, for this ghost will haunt this ship until justice has been delivered.

Andres
10-09-2009, 11:08
Not much to go on from gibsong's posts, unfortunately.

EDIT: His death's write-up indicates he was vig killed (at least the 4 people would indicate that). Have those who were involved in this vig killing been revealed in-thread without me noticing? Because those people are almost certainly cleared of being Maven.

Was Jolt in the group that killed gibson?

Anyway, it seems like vig killing is not all that evil, hm?

TinCow
10-09-2009, 12:44
Are you the one who killed me?

Find the one who killed me, for this ghost will haunt this ship until justice has been delivered.

That looks to me like a First Officer kill. So, I believe the person you want to be upset with is Louis. Nice that we've now had two officer-led townie deaths in a row. I no longer have faith in the leadership of this ship. I suggest that we townies work to find the scum without them, for they are clearly more concerned with their own power than with accomplishing the actual objective.

Andres
10-09-2009, 12:52
Louis, did you kill me?

And didn't we have another kill by a solo killer? Was that you as well, Louis?

pevergreen
10-09-2009, 13:12
I no longer have faith in the leadership of this ship. I suggest that we townies work to find the scum without them, for they are clearly more concerned with their own power than with accomplishing the actual objective.

Theres this wonderful thing Andres used last round.

What was it called?

gibsonsg91921
10-09-2009, 13:14
Guilty as charged! Heehee

Louis VI the Fat
10-09-2009, 13:39
Pizza - four men vig group
Scottishranger - four men vig group
DisgruntledGoat - The 'Pirate Tale' serial killer. Same one who killed Tratorix, I presume
Andres - another lone killer. (No, it wusn't me)
One English convert made. That makes five English now.


It seems perfectly obvious that the English have infiltrated the vig groups. Despite their manpower, the English didn't kill. And why should they, when it is made so very easy for them to hide in a vig group?
Also, the vig groups attacked two pro-town players. This could indicate that the ringleaders of the vig groups could be English.

For two days now, none of the people involved in vig groups have come forward. Stepping forward is crucial to the town to find the English. If the killers are serious about vigging for the town, then they can help the town by giving their names. This will immediately embarras their English infiltrators.

Subotan
10-09-2009, 13:45
Guilty as charged! Heehee

Do you know who killed you? There wasn't anything that suspicious (Apart from your comment about Crazed Rabbit, but even Andres was more vocal about mutiny then you) that you said.

KukriKhan
10-09-2009, 14:17
Pizza - four men vig group
Scottishranger - four men vig group
DisgruntledGoat - The 'Pirate Tale' serial killer. Same one who killed Tratorix, I presume
Andres - another lone killer. (No, it wusn't me)
One English convert made. That makes five English now.

So:
Pizza +4
Scot +4
DG +1
Andres +1
"convert" +1

equals 16 players active last night. Which equals over 20 other players either Protecting or Sleeping.

I + 2 were Protecting. What were the other 20 of ya scruvvy dogs doin' ?

Subotan
10-09-2009, 14:34
DisgruntledGoat - The 'Pirate Tale' serial killer. Same one who killed Tratorix, I presume
Andres - another lone killer. (No, it wusn't me)

Could there be two serial killers?:juggle2:

Yaropolk
10-09-2009, 15:08
What were you doing last night Subotan? You've got a metric crapton of posts on this thread, and most are very noncommital. Seems like you're active, but you're just spinning your wheels in the mud.

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 15:09
I've a fair idea who was in the group that pointlessly attacked me. What I'm curious about is the group that attacked scottishranger; who did it and why? I have no idea if scottishranger was just an inactive seaman as he claimed to be, or if he was something more sinister, and we won't know until the report comes out. Someone should trust either the Captain, First Mate, or myself enough to reveal who is doing this action and why.


I'd also be interested in what Subotan is up to, but he's not talking to me. :beam:

Sasaki Kojiro
10-09-2009, 15:12
It seems perfectly obvious that the English have infiltrated the vig groups.

For my vig group, I do all the recruiting. If any english end up in them it's by chance.

Andres
10-09-2009, 15:19
Despite Pizzaguy's presence, though, the outcome of the battle was very much in the air. The combatants were so evenly matched that it looked like it was coming down to whoever would tire first. Finally, however, one of the members of Pizzaguy's bodyguards took another one aside and hissed in his ear, "the table, matey! Drop it down and use it as a barricade!" The two men did so, attacking the vigilante group's legs and throwing them off balance.

Little by little, thanks to the table's protection, the vigilante group was being forced back. They all started attacking even fiercer, but it was just not to be. Momentum was not on their side, and eventually they found themselves back in the deluge, helplessly banging on the now-reinforced door. After about five minutes of this, they decided to call it quits and trudged back below deck.

Not one of them saw Andres get grabbed from behind and dragged off to the side.


Could it be that one of those who was in the protection group on ATPG was my killer?

ATPG had a 50 % chance of surviving the attack by himself, right? A ballsy mafioso would take the risk of changing orders to attack me, knowing that ATPG had a 1/2 chance of surviving and giving himself an alibi for the remainder of the game.

DisgruntledGoat
10-09-2009, 15:21
Blah apparently the serial killer didn't like me.

Sasaki Kojiro
10-09-2009, 15:22
Blah apparently the serial killer didn't like me.

I wonder if it's a cue'd serial killer...someone should check and see if tratorix and DG said something similar.

Andres
10-09-2009, 15:26
I'd like to know the names of those who protected Pizza tonight.

Maybe that person didn't take no risk at all, because killing me would make the attack on Pizza fail?

It seems to me that my killer is someone who had information on the Pizza protection and/or the vig hit on Pizza.

The write-up makes me believe the killer was in Pizza's protection group.

Sasaki Kojiro
10-09-2009, 15:28
Andres, it could just be GH making a transition from the attack on pizza to your death.

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 15:28
I'd like to know why you decided to attack me to begin with. Surely there was a more productive use of your talents?

Andres
10-09-2009, 15:29
Andres, it could just be GH making a transition from the attack on pizza to your death.


Nope. Two men were protecting ATPG, not the required three. Somebody gambled or somebody had intel on both the protection and the attack.

EDIT: I think the names of both the protection and the attack group should be made public.

GeneralHankerchief
10-09-2009, 15:30
Not commenting on this either way. Speculate away. :yes:

Subotan
10-09-2009, 15:31
I was protecting ACIN last night. ACIN was worried that Chaotix's vote against him was the precursor to either the mafia or that vig group of four last night paying him a "visit". He asked me to protect him in the event of an attack.

TinCow
10-09-2009, 15:31
I'd like to know why you decided to attack me to begin with. Surely there was a more productive use of your talents?

Not as far as I was concerned. Your antics the previous day have convinced us that you can't be trusted outside of an officer position. Well, after yesterday's vote, I don't trust you to organize the town either. Taking a shot at removing you with a vig kill seemed to me like the best way to solve the town's conundrum.

Subotan
10-09-2009, 15:33
Could it be that one of those who was in the protection group on ATPG was my killer?

ATPG had a 50 % chance of surviving the attack by himself, right? A ballsy mafioso would take the risk of changing orders to attack me, knowing that ATPG had a 1/2 chance of surviving and giving himself an alibi for the remainder of the game.

Is that even possible?

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 15:34
"You die tonight, Quartermaster," one of them responded. "We be havin' just about enough the way this ship be run, and we'd be likin' to make some changes 'round here. First demand: You, dead."

"Consider the complaint noted," Pizzaguy replied. "I be referrin' it to me staff. Expect an answer from them right about... now," he said, and several more figures rushed out from behind another door, their cutlasses raised. The vigilante group, a bit taken aback, charged forward, and the battle was on.

I'd also like to know where you get only two protectors from "several". Even a very liberal definition of several would mean more than two.


Not as far as I was concerned. Your antics the previous day have convinced us that you can't be trusted outside of an officer position. Well, after yesterday's vote, I don't trust you to organize the town either. Taking a shot at removing you with a vig kill seemed to me like the best way to solve the town's conundrum.

Yarrr... then let the Captain handle the organization, if you're not happy with my efforts. Did you really be thinkin' that I would let my life be decided by a coin toss? I know you have more productive things to be doing, and I expect that you be doing them.

At the very least, we can narrow down who isn't the long-winded serial killer. That means we've made some progress today.

gibsonsg91921
10-09-2009, 15:36
I have no idea who killed me. It was either random or because I was voting "present."

KukriKhan
10-09-2009, 15:36
So Andres, TinCow & Sasaki = 3 of the pizza attackers? Who else?

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 15:37
You might suspect AVSM being a fourth, as I do. But I've no proof.

Sasaki Kojiro
10-09-2009, 15:43
Nevermind, I suspect that our serial killer is the last maven. Once sigurd and gibson died he just started killing, yeah?

Yaropolk
10-09-2009, 15:44
I was protecting ACIN last night. ACIN was worried that Chaotix's vote against him was the precursor to either the mafia or that vig group of four last night paying him a "visit". He asked me to protect him in the event of an attack.

Who else was in your group who can confirm your behavior?

Andres
10-09-2009, 15:48
I'd also like to know where you get only two protectors from "several". Even a very liberal definition of several would mean more than two.


Sure, "several" came forward. Two real protectors and one 'protector' who cancelled the protection order he had forwarded to you and sent in an order to kill me instead.

Something about that write-up makes me believe my killer was one of those who were supposed to protect you.

Who was in that group, please? It can't be too hard to form a group that doesn't have those three in it for the next night to protect you, if you're so worried about you're own safety.

Andres
10-09-2009, 15:50
Nevermind, I suspect that our serial killer is the last maven. Once sigurd and gibson died he just started killing, yeah?

There was more than one solo killer last night.

Both are scum or Louis has been out killing (and of course, Louis can be scum too, I for one have not seen any evidence on his innocence).

Since our dear officers are very good at protecting themselves, they don't need to worry about being a bit more open to us.

Subotan
10-09-2009, 15:50
Who else was in your group who can confirm your behavior?

Miotas and AVSM

TinCow
10-09-2009, 15:52
Miotas and ACIN

ACIN was protecting himself? :inquisitive:

Yaropolk
10-09-2009, 15:54
Sounds like you're off the hook.

ACIN and Miotas, can you confirm? GH - can you comment on whether mechanics allow one to participate in a protection group on themselves?

GeneralHankerchief
10-09-2009, 15:59
You can't protect yourself.

Sasaki Kojiro
10-09-2009, 15:59
There was more than one solo killer last night.

Both are scum or Louis has been out killing (and of course, Louis can be scum too, I for one have not seen any evidence on his innocence).

Since our dear officers are very good at protecting themselves, they don't need to worry about being a bit more open to us.


Ah yes, the tour guide killer is probably the maven, but the "unearthly glow--blunderbuss" guy is new.

Arr but andres, methinks a man scared enough to beg other pirates for protection at night isn't going to give you their names, even if one of them is a serial killer. "rest assured, the captain and I will look into the matter. Trust in your noble officers to take care of things for you" sayeth he I'm sure.


Vote:shlin

fos:yaropolk

Subotan
10-09-2009, 16:00
Whoops typo, that should read AVSM.

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 16:02
Who was in that group, please? It can't be too hard to form a group that doesn't have those three in it for the next night to protect you, if you're so worried about you're own safety.

I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

Otherwise I have no reason to divulge my protection to the very person who tried to kill me.

Beskar
10-09-2009, 16:17
Both are scum or Louis has been out killing (and of course, Louis can be scum too, I for one have not seen any evidence on his innocence).


I have seen it, Louis VI the Fat is 100% loyal crewmember with no corruptibilities.

Now you are swimming with the fishes, a good place for ye traitorous scum.

Tratorix
10-09-2009, 16:23
I have seen it, Louis VI the Fat is 100% loyal crewmember with no corruptibilities.

Now you are swimming with the fishes, a good place for ye traitorous scum.

Louis is completely incorruptible? Then why don't we switch him out of the First Officer position, since he can't be recruited?

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 16:29
After all that bluster about wanting to know who is protecting me, and about me being "cowardly", you fellas won't divulge the names of your vigilante group. How duplicitous. :laugh4:

vote: Ricera10

Your posts and voting pattern seem suspect to me.

Yaropolk
10-09-2009, 16:30
fos:yaropolk

Those be fighting words matey! You best sleep with your one good eye open from now on. You're a dead man walking, your parrot's a dead bird flying, and if you ever get back to land and manage to trick a wench into having your piratelings, they're dead as well. And when your kids have a pet goldfish, HE's dead!

A1_Unit
10-09-2009, 16:31
I was in a protection group last night.:yes: vote:shlin for lack of better suspects.

naut
10-09-2009, 16:31
Are we voting or sitting round like wenches in a kitchen?

Edit: Seems we are. :beam:

miotas
10-09-2009, 16:32
We be arguin like the rum soaked pirates we be!

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 16:37
Those be fighting words matey! You best sleep with your one good eye open from now on. You're a dead man walking, your parrot's a dead bird flying, and if you ever get back to land and manage to trick a wench into having your piratelings, they're dead as well. And when your kids have a pet goldfish, HE's dead!

That seems to be a contrived reaction. Hiding behind roleplaying, are we? :inquisitive:

Sasaki Kojiro
10-09-2009, 16:44
After all that bluster about wanting to know who is protecting me, and about me being "cowardly", you fellas won't divulge the names of your vigilante group. How duplicitous. :laugh4:

vote: Ricera10

Your posts and voting pattern seem suspect to me.

Yes pizza. Andres, tincow and I won't reveal the names of our vig group AT ANY COST

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 16:46
Yes pizza. Andres, tincow and I won't reveal the names of our vig group AT ANY COST

:laugh4: I was paying attention you know. It's the FOURTH I'm concerned with.

Beskar
10-09-2009, 16:51
Louis is completely incorruptible? Then why don't we switch him out of the First Officer position, since he can't be recruited?

Because the Mafia can kill him without protection. :laugh4:

Or was you wanting that? :idea2:

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 16:58
Come now Sasaki. You were an obvious pick. TinCow admitted his involvement. Andres was in the writeup. All I'm asking for is one name.

In return, you get three. Three for one! It's a good deal.

KukriKhan
10-09-2009, 17:14
Come now Sasaki. You were an obvious pick. TinCow admitted his involvement. Andres was in the writeup. All I'm asking for is one name.

In return, you get three. Three for one! It's a good deal.

He didn't seem to mind way back in post #412 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2345145&postcount=412), when he named:


Sasaki, Andres, AVSM, pevergreen, Jolt. They showed courage last night, I don't think they be afraid to have it known.

So yeah, AVSM looks to be a candidate for #4 pizza-attacker.

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 17:17
Of course subotan and miotas claim AVSM protected ACIN last night.

And AVSM would never abandon his post and leave a fellow crewman vulnerable while he goes off to kill someone revealed to be on the town's side and fully investigated. Why, that would be the act of a dead man.

Andres
10-09-2009, 17:24
Ah yes, the tour guide killer is probably the maven, but the "unearthly glow--blunderbuss" guy is new.

Arr but andres, methinks a man scared enough to beg other pirates for protection at night isn't going to give you their names, even if one of them is a serial killer. "rest assured, the captain and I will look into the matter. Trust in your noble officers to take care of things for you" sayeth he I'm sure.


Vote:shlin

fos:yaropolk

Indeed.

What have these noble officers ever done for me? I'm dead!

Avenge me, Sasaki!


I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

Otherwise I have no reason to divulge my protection to the very person who tried to kill me.

As you are well aware, I'm dead. I cannot give you that information.


Come now Sasaki. You were an obvious pick. TinCow admitted his involvement. Andres was in the writeup. All I'm asking for is one name.

In return, you get three. Three for one! It's a good deal.

You go first. Besides, we already gave three out of four names.

Why do you refuse to give information on a possible solo killer? People have been vig killed or lynched for far less :brood:

Beskar
10-09-2009, 17:25
I been talking to people, and from the sounds of it, White_Eyes:D according to various sources, is the "Long Tale" killer.


Vote: White_Eyes:D

Andres
10-09-2009, 17:26
So yeah, AVSM looks to be a candidate for #4 pizza-attacker.

Somebody said that AVSM was in a group with ACIN and Subotan last night...

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 17:28
As you are well aware, I'm dead. I cannot give you that information.

Your co-conspirators can.


You go first. Besides, we already gave three out of four names.

:mellow:

I'm not a fool, Andres. I'm playing based on my credibility, Sasaki is not. I have more to lose than he does by revealing first. He could renege on the deal.


Why do you refuse to give information on a possible solo killer? People have been vig killed or lynched for far less :brood:

Because I know that your theory is full of it; I can see with my own eyes that there were more than two who showed up to protect me.

You want the info on the "possible solo killer" then you get your rogue shipmates to cough up the name they are hiding.

Tratorix
10-09-2009, 17:34
Because the Mafia can kill him without protection. :laugh4:

Or was you wanting that? :idea2:

The officers post only gives him a 50% chance of surviving and he could easily be protected. Trust me, 50% chance to survive isn't something to rely on. Besides, he's more than likely already got a protection group assigned to him.

shlin28
10-09-2009, 17:35
I am one of ATPG's protectors, okay?

Also, because I am sooooooooo suspcious, I will Vote: shlin28

*Goes out to get a drink*

Andres
10-09-2009, 17:37
You want the info on the "possible solo killer" then you get your rogue shipmates to cough up the name they are hiding.

Don't tell me you don't have an eye for subtilities.

Reenk Roink
10-09-2009, 18:01
And vote Andres. I think he's innocent but he's no good to us off hte ship.

:inquisitive:

Vote: Yaropolk

:thumbsdown:

:2thumbsup: Vote: Yaropolk

:army:


Kill off one of: Sasaki's group for idiotically killing LG

Kill off one of the group Atpg organized to kill scottishranger

Favor (cautiously) the vig group that killed gibsons. Have some of those protected.

[~:grouphug: - GH]

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 18:03
I'll state categorically that I had absolutely zero to do with the scottishranger vigilante attempt.

I am not even aware of who was in that group, for the record.

[Tidying up - GH]

Crazed Rabbit
10-09-2009, 18:26
At this moment we are not going to go after the vigilante groups. Offing gibsonsg was very good for the ship. However, wantonly killing everyone who appears suspicious could lead to pro-town roles getting killed. Better coordination could lower that chance.

Now it is very likely the British are hiding in those groups. I'm sure we can work something out for the good of the crew, though.

CR

Louis VI the Fat
10-09-2009, 18:28
Aye. The cap'n's spoken.

Let's put aside our quarrels and chase some English. Tonight I want to dine on rosbif with lime.


[/sucking up to the cap'n to retain position]

White_eyes:D
10-09-2009, 18:32
Vote:White_eyes:D because I am a SK:juggle2:

Crazed Rabbit
10-09-2009, 18:45
Don't be silly White Eyes. Let's catch some British.

EDIT: Alright, would the people who killed gibsong, iskander, and scottishranger please step forward?
I am not going to retaliate for anything; so far 1 out of those three people killed is a confirmed maven crew member. That's good odds.

But it seems likely to me one British member may be hiding in your ranks. Letting me know who you are lets us narrow the investigation targets and let's me warn you not to attack pro-town roles.

CR

Beskar
10-09-2009, 19:04
Well, I think White_Eyes:D just admitted who he was.

Sasaki Kojiro
10-09-2009, 19:07
Well, I think White_Eyes:D just admitted who he was.

He just confessed to being mafia.

Don't think I believe him though. Haven't seen any evidence.

Andres
10-09-2009, 19:09
But it seems likely to me one British member may be hiding in your ranks. Letting me know who you are lets us narrow the investigation targets and let's me warn you not to attack pro-town roles.

CR

If you tell a group infiltrated by the British not to attack a pro-town role, aren't you then giving away information on the enemy?

Wouldn't it be better to not comment at all and have the pro-town roles protected?

Beskar
10-09-2009, 19:20
He just confessed to being mafia.

Don't think I believe him though. Haven't seen any evidence.

I don't have the evidence myself, but basically when he stopped doing protection groups was the same night the "Long Tale" killer started killing. He has also been leaving open comments making him look very suspect. Another person said that White_Eyes:D usually goes very defeatist, if this is the case, it would make White_Eyes:D the last surviving Maven crew member.

I suggest we lynch him and help put him out of his misery.

Louis VI the Fat
10-09-2009, 19:20
We are trying to co-operate with the kill groups, Andres. A new approach. Let us work together to find any possible English hiding in our ranks.

The English have five men. Four yesterday. One investigated, one converted. The remaining two didn't make a kill. Either one or two of them have been killed, or both are hiding in vig groups to camouflage themselves.

Let's find out.



I am off drinking later. If I return, I shall be drunk and probably vote Jolt or something. So I'll try not to turn on my compuer and make a vote now:

Vote: White_Eyes.

There is probably only one maven left. The last maven can kill on his own. Probably our serial killer of the last two days then. Possibly, the game is not much fun anymore, and could so explain White_Eyes' Reenksterite vote on himself.

A1_Unit
10-09-2009, 19:21
Take down the Maven! - unvote, vote:White_Eyes:D

Sasaki Kojiro
10-09-2009, 19:23
But why wouldn't white eyes just stay in the protection group?

Seamus Fermanagh
10-09-2009, 19:28
Auto votes are inherently suspicious.

Both Shlin and W_E have lodged one. Of the two, W_E's seems more manipulative.

Vote: White_eyes:D

Beskar
10-09-2009, 19:36
But why wouldn't white eyes just stay in the protection group?

That is where the defeatist attitude came in. He has given up. His team mates are dead and just "bleh".

Pretty sad, I know.

White_eyes:D
10-09-2009, 19:37
ATPG left me out to dry.....and I just don't care anymore:shrug:

I already told him it would be a waste of a lynch but he points out I bailed out of the protect groups and I also won't confirm who attacked him....so it's my fault:dizzy2:

I already also told him it would be easier if he Vig-killed or blocked me.....but he refuses to do so:shrug:

I just lost all respect for him now.....and I see that he doesn't at all care about winning with the town, but is more concerned with settling old scores:no:

Sasaki Kojiro
10-09-2009, 19:52
That is where the defeatist attitude came in. He has given up. His team mates are dead and just "bleh".

Pretty sad, I know.

What other games has he given up on with a defeatist attitude? He didn't in godfather.

Subotan
10-09-2009, 20:00
Kill off one of: Sasaki's group for idiotically killing LG

Kill off one of the group Atpg organized to kill scottishranger

Favor (cautiously) the vig group that killed gibsons. Have some of those protected.

Who the :daisy: is "Soldier Man"?

Aye. The cap'n's spoken.

Let's put aside our quarrels and chase some English. Tonight I want to dine on rosbif with lime.


[/sucking up to the cap'n to retain position]
*Puts on Dr Zoidberg's voice*
Dine with the Captain? What an honour!

ATPG left me out to dry.....and I just don't care anymore:shrug:

I already told him it would be a waste of a lynch but he points out I bailed out of the protect groups and I also won't confirm who attacked him....so it's my fault:dizzy2:

I already also told him it would be easier if he Vig-killed or blocked me.....but he refuses to do so:shrug:

I just lost all respect for him now.....and I see that he doesn't at all care about winning with the town, but is more concerned with settling old scores:no:
So, you have a death wish? Who have you left your treasure to?

[Language please - GH]

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 20:04
ATPG left me out to dry.....

You first. :shrug:


and I just don't care anymore:shrug:

That was obvious.


I already told him it would be a waste of a lynch but he points out I bailed out of the protect groups and I also won't confirm who attacked him....so it's my fault:dizzy2:

In the absence of an explanation for the above, yes it is.


I already also told him it would be easier if he Vig-killed or blocked me.....but he refuses to do so:shrug:

Why would I waste the time of four people vig killing you? You yourself argued just yesterday how pointless it is to let you live if you were a serial killer. "wasting" a vigilante group, remember? You're contradicting yourself. First I'm bad for not following my instincts and taking care of you right away, now I'm bad for not waiting to do so. It's a delightful dance of contradiction.


I just lost all respect for him now.....and I see that he doesn't at all care about winning with the town, but is more concerned with settling old scores:no:

Wholly without merit or basis in fact. We worked together just fine in Capo, it is you who decided not to work with us this game. I didn't force you to leave, I did try to talk you into keeping your nerve, I didn't jump all over you when you left, I didn't immediately go after you when the serial killings started, and I only wanted an explanation for your actions.

Blame is easy. Self-reflection is harder. And, as if this was still all my doing, he has the power to stop all this with a simple explanation. But instead it is a pity party. Nothing I have control over.

White_eyes:D
10-09-2009, 20:21
And, as if this was still all my doing, he has the power to stop all this with a simple explanation..

What am I supposed to say?? That the SK started killing conveniently after I left the group??:stare:

You could have cleared me LAST NIGHT......There were times in Capo three that I told my partner to "trust you for just one more round" and I see now you didn't want to return the favor.....:shame:

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 20:22
What am I supposed to say?? That the SK started killing conveniently after I left the group??:stare:

You could have cleared me LAST NIGHT......There were times in Capo three that I told my partner to "trust you for just one more round" and I see now you didn't want to return the favor.....:shame:

Still waiting on why you left the group in the first place, and what you've been doing every night since.

White_eyes:D
10-09-2009, 20:39
Still waiting on why you left the group in the first place, and what you've been doing every night since.
figured I would abandon ship?....then when I thought it would be a bad idea with no islands around(due to lynch write-up) you said you had a "replacement":shrug:

That night the SK killings started and I was doing nothing....:juggle2:

The next night same thing.....because I figured I was going to be blocked/investigated or killed:no:

Nothing happened...The only thing I can see that would even remotely imply that I am innocent is this..
Secret role(s):

Naturally, any and all details about secret role(s) will remain secret. I will say that there will be at least one. otherwise I am quite dead...:sweatdrop: I didn't want to waste a lynch on it....but whatever:juggle2:

Beskar
10-09-2009, 20:44
Sorry, the Secret Role has been taken up by some one else in the game. Not by myself, but the role is that secret, it is even immune to Watchstander investigation, so when they said they were a secret role, and none of the watchstanders could investigate them... :shrug:

Subotan
10-09-2009, 20:55
I still have two questions for White_Eyes
What did you do last night, and who are you leaving your treasure to?

A1_Unit
10-09-2009, 20:56
Sorry, the Secret Role has been taken up by some one else in the game. Not by myself, but the role is that secret, it is even immune to Watchstander investigation, so when they said they were a secret role, and none of the watchstanders could investigate them... :shrug:
What do you mean?

Sasaki Kojiro
10-09-2009, 20:56
Ok. So if white_eyes is maven and defeatist, then he would leave the ship unless he was unable too. Are there nights when you can't leave the ship due to storm etc?

shlin28
10-09-2009, 21:16
*Walks onto the deck rather drunkenly*

Yarrrrrr, that was a nice bottle of rum, I wonder where I can find some more...

Say, are there more people being voted? Lemme see the cases against them...

*Glances at the moldy piece of parchment*

Hmm... White Eyes is being accused because he backed out of a protection group, and then a SK started to kill? A bit too convenient perhaps, but not conclusive... Pizza Dude is also being far too serious... To be honest, I would be quite annoyed if the moment I backed out of a group, something happens, and I get suspected by the rest of you. (pever scandal anyone?) But his defeatist attitude is quite disturbing.

Hmmm... what about this Very Super Market person? Did he participate in the attempted kill against our Quartermaster? Is the attack against our QM considered suspicious? Judging by your votes, you guys do not seem to think that - does that mean further vigilante actions will not occur in the future against the Quartermaster or any of the other esteemed officers aboard?

Then there are the "lurkers", lurking in their cabins doing who knows what... Hey, why is my name on the list!?!?!?!?

Oh right. Unvote: shlin28

Hmm... who should I vote for? I do not think WE:D is guilty, and because there are no other suspects and my mind is too addled by rum to think properly, I shall be be a true pirate and challenge a certain artificial intelligence.

Vote: AI_Unit

Vote for me will ya? Watch out for my cutlass you silver mechanical...thing!!!

White_eyes:D
10-09-2009, 21:22
It looks REALLY bad....If I saw another townie who looked as guilty as I am....I would lynch them without a second thought....MY only hope was if ATPG blocked or had someone investigate me last night(To see that I was telling the truth about doing nothing)....or if someone else did:idea2:

My backing out of the group couldn't have had worse timing...:no:

A1_Unit
10-09-2009, 21:23
*Walks onto the deck rather drunkenly*

Yarrrrrr, that was a nice bottle of rum, I wonder where I can find some more...

Say, are there more people being voted? Lemme see the cases against them...

*Glances at the moldy piece of parchment*

Hmm... White Eyes is being accused because he backed out of a protection group, and then a SK started to kill? A bit too convenient perhaps, but not conclusive... Pizza Dude is also being far too serious... To be honest, I would be quite annoyed if the moment I backed out of a group, something happens, and I get suspected by the rest of you. (pever scandal anyone?) But his defeatist attitude is quite disturbing.

Hmmm... what about this Very Super Market person? Did he participate in the attempted kill against our Quartermaster? Is the attack against our QM considered suspicious? Judging by your votes, you guys do not seem to think that - does that mean further vigilante actions will not occur in the future against the Quartermaster or any of the other esteemed officers aboard?

Then there are the "lurkers", lurking in their cabins doing who knows what... Hey, why is my name on the list!?!?!?!?

Oh right. Unvote: shlin28

Hmm... who should I vote for? I do not think WE:D is guilty, and because there are no other suspects and my mind is too addled by rum to think properly, I shall be be a true pirate and challenge a certain artificial intelligence.

Vote: AI_Unit

Vote for me will ya? Watch out for my cutlass you silver mechanical...thing!!!

Shlin I already canceled my vote for you.:yes:

Crazed Rabbit
10-09-2009, 21:25
I think it's pretty clear W_E isn't a killer. Lynching him is a waste. We can roleblock him tonight.

ATPG, going after W_E is not helpful. This isn't going to be Capo, where people were killed for being unhelpful.

CR

Askthepizzaguy
10-09-2009, 21:32
I could buy that he is a secret role... Except he waits until now to suggest such a thing, and that's after doing everything in the book to harm his own credibility. If he were some powerful secret pro-town role, then why would he shoot himself in the foot, then the other foot, and then finally in the head? You know, when I have a powerful pro-town role that might be critical for our collective survival, I usually don't do a series of things almost guaranteed to get me killed, for no apparent reason. The way White_Eyes is playing, if we are to consider him a decent player which I do, suggests that he doesn't have a valuable secret role. Instead, that he is in fact frustrated or not really caring about the outcome. Which would seem to suggest the psychology of a man who lost all his teammates really early.

However, I'll give White_Eyes credit enough that he could be doing this for other reasons. I am just at a loss as to why. I can't really follow the line of thought at all. Everything suggests that something terrible happened which required his full attention, abruptly, and then he seemed to interpret his situation as being doomed. Enough so that he's almost eager to make it happen.

It doesn't match what I would expect from a British special officer or lieutenant. That much I'll warrant. However, the rest of it suggests he's at best unfocused on a town victory, and a bit too paranoid and secretive for an average able seaman. It shouldn't be too hard to say "oh yes I did vigilante actions last night" or "I was protecting someone who doesn't trust you" or what have you. Of course he's already denied both those options privately. The empty void that remains is... what was he doing, or not doing, and why wasn't he doing it?

If he believed for example I was dragging the town into the gutter, he might have joined Sasaki's vig squad. But that's not even his explanation either. I find it difficult to come up with a reason for his actions that reflects favorably on him.


does that mean further vigilante actions will not occur in the future against the Quartermaster or any of the other esteemed officers aboard?

I'm not holding my breath.


I think it's pretty clear W_E isn't a killer. Lynching him is a waste. We can roleblock him tonight.

ATPG, going after W_E is not helpful. This isn't going to be Capo, where people were killed for being unhelpful.

CR
:shrug:

I didn't call for a vig kill on him and I'm not voting for him. All I wanted was an answer to the question: Why did White_Eyes decide not to protect someone one night, just for the heck of it, without explanation? And if he did in fact do something, what was it?

I believe he could stand a little scrutiny. My vote is on Ricera10, someone who could use far more scrutiny.


If I saw another townie who looked as guilty as I am

:laugh4: Just saying.

Tratorix
10-09-2009, 21:53
I hope White Eyes isn't the long tale killer. If he killed me after all we went through in Capo, we're going to have a problem. :furious3: Also, ATPG, if you thought WE was a serial killer, why didn't you roleblock him last night?

TinCow
10-09-2009, 21:59
Nothing happened...The only thing I can see that would even remotely imply that I am innocent is this..


Secret role(s):

Naturally, any and all details about secret role(s) will remain secret. I will say that there will be at least one.

otherwise I am quite dead...:sweatdrop: I didn't want to waste a lynch on it....but whatever:juggle2:

Talk more about this, please.

White_eyes:D
10-09-2009, 22:00
Well...it's true:laugh4:

And if Sasaki is willing to explain...I was not in his group and you know that:inquisitive:

I was contacted to help but he said he had someone else to help with it..:shrug:

Seamus Fermanagh
10-09-2009, 22:02
Unvote W_E;

Vote: shlin28

auto-vote followed by riposte voting....not seeing a lot of analysis there, shlin.

Seamus Fermanagh
10-09-2009, 22:04
Unvote White_eyes:D; Vote shlin28

Sorry for the previous edit, I malfed the code and edited it immediately as is my usual wont.

TinCow
10-09-2009, 22:04
Well...it's true:laugh4:

So... if you're not scum, what are you? What's your goal? What are your abilities? There are plenty of special roles that are not good for the town, so simply claiming that with nothing more isn't very reassuring.

Double A
10-09-2009, 22:06
vote: Abstain.

See you crackpots on Sunday.

Double A
10-09-2009, 22:07
Oops I forgot to bold... :smash:

vote: Abstain

Leaving for the beach and don't have time to go over this.

Crazed Rabbit
10-09-2009, 22:12
Hmm. I'll wait for word from White Eyes.

And news from our investigators.

CR

White_eyes:D
10-09-2009, 22:18
So... if you're not scum, what are you? What's your goal? What are your abilities? There are plenty of special roles that are not good for the town, so simply claiming that with nothing more isn't very reassuring.

Ok, I am....A townie:juggle2:

Sorry for confusing you all like that....(I myself am becoming confused:dizzy2:)

All I was trying to say(Before Beskar pointed out that, The last Maven crewmen can kill solo which I didn't know about) was that there must be a secret SK role but that was blown out of the water:sweatdrop:

Crazed Rabbit
10-09-2009, 22:26
:inquisitive:

You certainly seemed to suggest you had a non-townie role.

CR

White_eyes:D
10-09-2009, 22:35
Perhaps I went to overboard with the SK thing??:dizzy2:

I am not lying in any case.....but with all that *suggesting* I did....I don't think you would believe me...:sweatdrop:

Crazed Rabbit
10-09-2009, 22:36
You're probably not an SK. And we have ways of dealing with people in the night.

So let's look at other targets for now.

CR

Yaropolk
10-09-2009, 22:50
I for one would love to hear from AVSM

He's suspected of being the 4th vig killer in Sassaki's group and also others claimed he was protecting ACIN last night. Sassaki can clear this up by revealing the 4th vigilante.

scotchedpommes
10-09-2009, 23:06
Vote: Abstain

Diana Abnoba
10-09-2009, 23:12
Vote: Abstain for now, need to get ready for work. Will check back before end of round to make my final decision.

A Very Super Market
10-09-2009, 23:20
I for one would love to hear from AVSM

He's suspected of being the 4th vig killer in Sassaki's group and also others claimed he was protecting ACIN last night. Sassaki can clear this up by revealing the 4th vigilante.

I would love to hear from myself as well, but school takes up a bit of time.

I was in the protection group, not Sasaki's.

Cultured Drizzt fan
10-09-2009, 23:50
Alright, may as well wait for the fourth member of that Vig group to come forward.

Vote: abstain in case I am not able to get back on to change it. :yes:

Chaotix
10-10-2009, 00:04
Vote: Mutiny

Sorry, but I'm tired of the current administration and their BS tactics. Either CR can demote both Louis and ATPG, or I'm gonna keep my vote on him.

Beskar
10-10-2009, 00:05
Tired of two innocent townies having positions? You prefering British officers there instead?

a completely inoffensive name
10-10-2009, 00:12
Sounds like you're off the hook.

ACIN and Miotas, can you confirm? GH - can you comment on whether mechanics allow one to participate in a protection group on themselves?

Ok, first (not targeting you Yaro): could people please stop with the friggen. "I want to hear from..." "why haven't we heard from..." I live in a different time zone then most of you and are at school the majority of my day.

Yes, I got miotas, AVSM and Subo to protect me. I had my suspicions. That's what we were all doing.

Beskar
10-10-2009, 00:16
Why should they protect you?

Chaotix
10-10-2009, 00:16
No, I am tired of the misuse of powers by our First Mate, and I do not trust the Quartermaster completely- it has been made public that he is completely susceptible to conversion, and given his suspicious actions in the thread this very phase regarding a lead that I consider very clear in the write-up, I would not be surprised if he was converted before he was placed in the position.

Also, I find it interesting that you say only two innocent townies have positions. Do you really mean to tell me that our Captain has not been investigated yet? If he hasn't been confirmed innocent, should we trust him with such a position?

a completely inoffensive name
10-10-2009, 00:36
Why should they protect you?

Because I went through Capo and no one said anything bad about me, I was a detective and I lasted all the way until the final week before the game ended. Then all of a sudden my name comes up in the thread and I am attacked. Then again. And I die at the very end of the game. So when I, coming home after working on my time consuming physics log in just to read and vote on who I think is guilty and get back to studying, suddenly see that someone had accused me of something, I didn't want to ignore what could be a sign for a mafia hit as I did before.

EDIT: If you are asking what the motivation is to protect a simple townie...then what I can say, their my Tavern social group buddies, we stick together against moderators and mafia of all kinds.

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 00:41
I didn't want to ignore what could be a sign for a mafia hit as I did before.

The person who killed you in capo was a word-triggered serial killer, not the mafia. After playing quite a few games I can say they don't usually announce who they are about to kill. However if you're getting protection from a group, in my mind at least you're getting 3 people to do something, so... carry on.

a completely inoffensive name
10-10-2009, 00:45
The person who killed you in capo was a word-triggered serial killer, not the mafia. After playing quite a few games I can say they don't usually announce who they are about to kill. However if you're getting protection from a group, in my mind at least you're getting 3 people to do something, so... carry on.

I didn't have anything else to say. But let me ask, who gave the trigger word? I doubt that any word I said had not been said a million times in the thread already.

EDIT: Disregard my first sentence. i thought carry on meant continue elaborating what you were talking about, not, ok you're clear, keep doin' what your doin'.

Joooray
10-10-2009, 00:59
Sorry, I just don't have any idea whatsoever. So I'll have to go with Vote: Abstain so far. I'll change my vote if something comes up. If I'm able, because I really gotta go to bed now and I didn't entirely get when this round will end. :shrug:

pevergreen
10-10-2009, 01:42
Vote: Mutiny

Vote: Shlin

HoS: all those above me voting abstain

Why mutiny? Because I'm a little tired of these pro town networks, who clear themselves and lead the town around. The generic townie is just told they are cleared. I don't doubt that they are most likely townies, but after a capo game where it happened, and my bad memories of Netherworld, I wholeheartedly wish for the old "You can't reveal in private, only in thread" rule.

Tratorix
10-10-2009, 01:46
Don't forget Midgard Saga II. What an embarrassing showing for the town that was. :shame:

Death is yonder
10-10-2009, 02:05
Vote: Subotan

Seeing your posts makes me think back to the time where Ichigo slipped under the radar in Swords of the Moon (10th Anniversary Game) and wasn't suspected, with the same style.

Responding to off point inquiries, and you asking suspicious questions.



Who the :daisy: is "Soldier Man"?

*Puts on Dr Zoidberg's voice*
Dine with the Captain? What an honour!

So, you have a death wish? Who have you left your treasure to?

[Language please - GH]



I still have two questions for White_Eyes
What did you do last night, and who are you leaving your treasure to?

Though I'm kinda busy studying and doing a skim read, these two posts caught my attention.

Firstly, why do you want to know who this "soldier man" is, Reenk has posted another quotation (from another person I presume) under the alias "Rudolph" if memory serves. Its probably just a means of preserving the identity of that person.

Secondly, why would you inquire who Whiteeyes left his treasure to, it is of no consequence to you isn't it?

Its a very curious point, why is his treasure a point of contention with you. Are you a maven who is desperate for MORE treasure? So that you can leave the ship hurriedly and hopefully not get flogged by your captain? :inquisitive:

Centurion1
10-10-2009, 02:21
Vote: pevergreen

i am sorry i do not trust him

KukriKhan
10-10-2009, 03:09
Less than 2 hours 'til sundown, and no leads - just a couple of gut feelings.

So, I'll play the cards revealed on the table (i.e. in this thread), and

vote: Sasaki Kojiro

for ring-leading kill teams of questionable motive, against a ship's officer. If anyone has a better suspect, I'm listening.

Splitpersonality
10-10-2009, 03:13
Vote:Abstain

Not a good night, I'm pretty behind on things right now.

Sorry guys :/

GeneralHankerchief
10-10-2009, 03:20
The round doesn't end in 1 hour and 40 minutes, it ends in 13 hours and 40 minutes. :yes:

Yaropolk
10-10-2009, 03:21
vote pevergreen

Yaropolk
10-10-2009, 03:24
:heart::heart::iloveyou::iloveyou:note the lower case p

a completely inoffensive name
10-10-2009, 03:50
Based on what I have seen I say Vote:pevergreen for the moment. I have to go to bed early and take a test tomorrow morning, so sorry if someone proves he is confirmed townie, I guess I will just be a lone vote if I don't get home in time to read and change it.

Oh, and FoS at Death is Yonder because I am paranoid enough to think that you have unknown motive for getting rid of one of my protectors, especially since your argument is that Subo reminds you of Ichigo in a past mafia game and that he is asking questions.

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 03:54
I'll go along with that.

unvote, vote: pevergreen

A mutinous soul gets a deserving end.

Death is yonder
10-10-2009, 03:54
Eh?

Oh your protector? *reads back quickly*

This is what I get for skim reading :sweatdrop:

The argument is that he's asking unrelated questions... to look active yet not properly contributing.

Ahh.. nevermind.

Unvote;
Vote: Abstain

I'll read up more later, back to hitting the books :book:

slashandburn
10-10-2009, 04:19
Vote:pevergreen He's willing to mutiny during the day, he may be killing townies at night.

Also, FOS:Chaotix for voting to mutiny.

Tratorix
10-10-2009, 04:26
Someone with more time and determination than me should look through these bandwagons and find the mafia hiding under them.

Chaotix
10-10-2009, 04:29
Vote:pevergreen He's willing to mutiny during the day, he may be killing townies at night.

Also, FOS:Chaotix for voting to mutiny.

Name me one good thing CR has done as captain. I mutiny because there is absolutely no reason for me not to.

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 04:33
I get yer frustration, mister Chaotix. I sincerely do.

Hold off on that for just a little bit. All I ask. I was on the outside looking in, now I am not, and from where I was and where I am now, I believe truly that Louis and CR are doing their best. What's holding us back is a lack of team cohesion on all levels. Not just administratively.

The civil war we've been having is pointless and needs to stop.

Chaotix
10-10-2009, 04:53
'mkay.

Unvote: Mutiny

Now let's stop this bandwagon on pevergreen and go for a better target. pever is, in all likelihood, still a townie. The mafia are definitely too afraid to mutiny and draw attention to themselves.

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 04:55
Possibly.

Listen, I really do think Ricera10 is worth some pressure votes. He doesn't have that many posts all game, but if you look at them in sequence, it looks awfully fishy. And given the fact I can't find even one person who claims to know what he's been up to at night, he really is suspicious.

unvote, vote: Ricera10

We know a lot about many of the other players, but not this person. And none have stepped forward since I started asking about him.

pevergreen
10-10-2009, 04:57
Someone really wants to get rid of me.

Unvote: Mutiny (if possible)

I'm being voted because I'm the second to mutiny. I'm not the one who started it, I further it along (wooh 2 votes out of how many needed?)

This happened earlier as well, I'm just about ready to wash my hands of it.

ATPG, why do you plan multiple vig actions tonight and not a lynch on one of them today?

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 04:58
I am not calling for a bandwagon on Ricera10. Please read his posts and consider that I can't find a single person to vouch for him. No more blind faith votes; consider and judge for yourselves.


ATPG, why do you plan multiple vig actions tonight and not a lynch on one of them today?
I can't always get what I want. And that includes the retaliatory vigilante strikes. I'm not the Captain, and even I agree that this bickering needs to end. Some things are worth more than the satisfaction of hitting back.

KukriKhan
10-10-2009, 05:07
The round doesn't end in 1 hour and 40 minutes, it ends in 13 hours and 40 minutes. :yes:

In that case: g'night mateys. See yer after a good booze-fest.

Chaotix
10-10-2009, 05:25
Vote: ricera.

You may consider yourself... under pressure.

naut
10-10-2009, 05:40
Vote: Chaotix

Deadline vote! :beam:

naut
10-10-2009, 05:41
Ah, the deadline is 9 or so hours. Woops, misread.

CountArach
10-10-2009, 06:13
I already told him it would be a waste of a lynch but he points out I bailed out of the protect groups and I also won't confirm who attacked him....so it's my fault:dizzy2:
I didn't really see why you were being lynched before this post, but here is where I decided to vote for you.

I just lost all respect for him now.....and I see that he doesn't at all care about winning with the town, but is more concerned with settling old scores:no:
Except that he is pro-town and he is doing a lot of organising... so he is helping the town...

Vote: White Eyes

I have a really bad chesty cough thing today so I really don't feel like playing Mafia at the moment... don't expect me to do anything at all.

a completely inoffensive name
10-10-2009, 06:37
This is the last post I can make before the end of the deadline.
Unvote:pevergreen; Vote: White Eyes
CA's quote also made me suspicious. Hope I made a good choice.

Joooray
10-10-2009, 12:24
Vote: ricera.

You may consider yourself... under pressure.

Seconded.

Vote: ricera.

Louis VI the Fat
10-10-2009, 14:17
Unvote: White_Eyes
Vote: Pevergreen

Cultured Drizzt fan
10-10-2009, 14:27
I am not too sure about the pever bandwagon :shrug:

what I do agree with however is.... Vote: Sasaki I can not believe we are just letting him skate by.....

Louis VI the Fat
10-10-2009, 14:54
Hmmm...it has been pointed out to me that I misspelled pevergreen's name. To that insult, I can not add the injury of lynching him.

Unvote: pevergreen
Vote: Ricera

Louis VI the Fat
10-10-2009, 14:55
Meh. Unbolded. Can't edit.

So then:
Unvote: pevergreen
Vote: Ricera

LittleGrizzly
10-10-2009, 15:08
I think it would be great one day if pever was a serial killer that killed people who capitalised the first letter of his nick....

Games a fascinating read... don't think pever's guilty... unsure what substances WE is abusing... Intrested to know what Ricera's been up to...

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 15:11
You soggy maggots! Can't even keep a tally going fer yer Captain. Worthless, every one of ye!


White_Eyes: 5 (Beskar, WhiteEyes, A1_Unit, CountArach, ACIN)
Ricera10: 4 (Askthepizzaguy, Chaotix, Joooray, Louis)
Shlin28: 3 (Sasaki, Seamus, pevergreen)
pevergreen: 3 (Centurion1, Yaropolk, slashandburn)
Sasaki: 2 (Kukrikhan, CDF)
Yaropolk: 1 (Reenk Roink)
Chaotix: 1 (Psychonaut)
A1: 1 (shlin28)


Abstain: Double A, SSN, Diana, Joooray, split, Death is Yonder

A1_Unit
10-10-2009, 15:22
unvote:White_Eyes:D
vote:Ricera10

White_Eyes:D may be telling the truth but Ricera10 hasn't spoken up to defend himself so...


Ricera10: 5 (Askthepizzaguy, Chaotix, Joooray, Louis, A1_Unit)
White_Eyes: 4 (Beskar, WhiteEyes, CountArach, ACIN)
Shlin28: 3 (Sasaki, Seamus, pevergreen)
pevergreen: 3 (Centurion1, Yaropolk, slashandburn)
Sasaki: 2 (Kukrikhan, CDF)
Yaropolk: 1 (Reenk Roink)
Chaotix: 1 (Psychonaut)
A1: 1 (shlin28)


Abstain: Double A, SSN, Diana, Joooray, split, Death is Yonder

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 15:35
Especially interesting is that he's read two messages from me over the past few days and ignored them totally, after claiming while voting for Jolt that he "trusts pizzaguy". That means he doesn't really trust pizzaguy, and was just looking for a quick bandwagon vote. He was a lot more active and talkative in Capo and he isn't inactive right now, he just joined another game. All unusual behavior for him.

TinCow
10-10-2009, 15:40
Let's see what happens with a tie.

Vote: White_Eyes:D

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 15:54
White_Eyes either kills himself intentionally or saves himself from death. What will happen? Is his defeatism all WIFOM? Or does he really not give a flying moose? Tune in next week for another exciting episode of:


SUICIDE SMILEY :D

:dizzy2: :embarassed: :furious3: :help: :idea2: :oops: :idea2: :oops: :no: :skull: :skull: :skull: :skull: :wall: :yes: :egypt: :smash:

scotchedpommes
10-10-2009, 16:16
Unvote: Abstain; Vote: Pervegrun

White_eyes:D
10-10-2009, 16:22
White_Eyes either kills himself intentionally or saves himself from death.

I will only save myself if Ricera10 shows up to break the tie...:bow:

White_eyes:D
10-10-2009, 16:39
Unvote:White_eyes:D Vote:Ricera10 I don't trust TinCows vote:inquisitive:....plus after the bell voting could finish me:juggle2:

Cultured Drizzt fan
10-10-2009, 16:43
Unvote: sasaki Vote: White_eyes:D


just five or so minutes ago you said you were not going to change your vote :inquisitive:

GeneralHankerchief
10-10-2009, 16:45
15 minutes remaining.

Host's tally:
ricera: 6
WE: 5

Cultured Drizzt fan
10-10-2009, 16:46
GAH! he is going to get away with it! :wall:

White_eyes:D
10-10-2009, 16:46
10:40 was the time limit....I checked.....and why not? Ricera10 could be guilty.....but somehow I doubt it:no: but I am not leaving it up to him...:juggle2:

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 16:52
unvote: Ricera10

Because White_Eyes obviously does care after all if he lives or dies. Let's put a smile on that face.

White_eyes:D
10-10-2009, 16:55
Do we both die if its a tie?:juggle2:

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 16:55
vote: abstain

For teh gold.

Sasaki Kojiro
10-10-2009, 16:56
unvote:shlin, vote:ricera

I'm pleasantly surprised that we're lynching someone based on gut rather than drama. Was it ever confirmed if white eyes could have left the ship if he was maven?

Subotan
10-10-2009, 16:56
FRY: Besides, it's not like one vote ever made a difference.

LEELA: That's not true. The first robot president won by exactly one vote.

BENDER: Ah, yes. John Quincy Adding Machine. He struck a cord with the voters when he pledged not to go on a killing spree.

FARNSWORTH: But, like most politicians, he promised more than he could deliver.

LEELA: The point is, one vote can make a difference and even though it won't, I'm still taking you to get registered.

The moral of this tale?
Vote:White_Eyes
Don't go on killing sprees.

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 16:59
unvote: abstain
vote: Pedro

GeneralHankerchief
10-10-2009, 17:00
Voting closed.

White_eyes:D
10-10-2009, 17:00
Don't go on killing sprees.

First person to ever believe I was(other then Beskar).....suspicious much?:inquisitive:

GeneralHankerchief
10-10-2009, 17:03
Officers, you have mail.

Subotan
10-10-2009, 17:06
Officers, you have mail.

So does that mean we have to wait for the officers to decide upon themselves about what to do?

GeneralHankerchief
10-10-2009, 17:08
So does that mean we have to wait for the officers to decide upon themselves about what to do?

Yup. :yes:

White_eyes:D
10-10-2009, 17:11
I guess I could say they don't need to waste a lynch or night action this way...:idea2:

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 17:13
Double lynches aren't permitted. White_Eyes play is just too self-defeating for him to be British, IMO. Though he may still end up in the brig tonight. Ricera10 falls victim to the Askthepizzaguy stalker syndrome.

Like LittleGrizzly before ye, I will not be ignored!

Louis VI the Fat
10-10-2009, 17:17
I guess I could say they don't need to waste a lynch or night action this way...:idea2:Did I mention my offshore bank account on the Cayman Islands yet?

The sight of ten gold ducats has been to known to have a mellowing effect on me...to make me more open to 'reasonable arguments of innocence', if you know what I mean.


Edit: Pizza has cast his vote yet. So you don't have to worry about paying him. :sneaky:

White_eyes:D
10-10-2009, 17:21
You want me to pay ten gold??:laugh4:

fine but only if you don't lynch me...I can't give money if I am dead...:sweatdrop:

Edit:Other then in a Will of course.....can't give that to whoever lynched me...:shame:

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 17:22
I'm not concerned with coin, only defending the British crown.

White_eyes:D
10-10-2009, 17:25
Are you asking for a bribe as well?:inquisitive:

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 17:26
specifically, this crown that I pilfered from the Charleston. :bounce:

IT'S MINE!!! YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!!! MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY!!!

Centurion1
10-10-2009, 21:38
wow and we possibly have the most corrupt pirates, ever......

GOOD JOB, GUYS

GeneralHankerchief
10-10-2009, 21:52
Still waiting on the officers' decision. Some people have already sent in night orders and I will take them, providing they're not conditional based off who is lynched.

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 22:13
Waiting on the Captain, actually.

Louis wanted to leave it up to him. :whip: Just change your vote man! I mean, uh... sir.

A1_Unit
10-10-2009, 22:22
I want a writeup - hurry up CR!:whip::laugh4:

Subotan
10-10-2009, 22:29
Does this mean The Presence can stop time?
:jawdrop:

Askthepizzaguy
10-10-2009, 22:29
I just want a chance to speak to the prisoner one more time.

Ricera10... it's been great man. A relationship filled with ups and downs. Ha ha, you remember when you voted for Jolt and I did too? Those were great times. I think about it constantly. CONSTANTLY. I can't get you out of my head. Yes.... but then you stopped returning my hails. And then I felt like we just weren't connecting anymore.

*twirls his hair innocently, sad look on his face*

I wanted to make things right, so I just kept hailing. And no response... it made me feel unwanted. But... that's just crazy. I'm too adorable. So... so... something must have gone wrong. Someone must have stolen your heart from me.

*takes out his blade*

But it's mine.... they can't have it. :brood: And if you won't give it to me... well... I want to make sure no one else can have it. NO... ONE.... ELSE.... :heart:

Good bye, darling.

GeneralHankerchief
10-10-2009, 22:31
All right, I've got all I needed.

Lynch may take a while as I'm otherwise occupied at the moment, but in the meantime I'll take all night orders.

Crazed Rabbit
10-10-2009, 22:31
Sorry for the late response. It's the homecoming football game this weekend, and I didn't think a tie would happen.

CR

White_eyes:D
10-10-2009, 22:51
I get the feeling I might get jarred like GH was, after Reenk lynched him and CA....one of the best write-ups ever....:2thumbsup:

I don't know why Pizzaguy....but I laughed at this...
Ricera10... it's been great man. A relationship filled with ups and downs. Ha ha, you remember when you voted for Jolt and I did too? Those were great times. I think about it constantly. CONSTANTLY. I can't get you out of my head. Yes.... but then you stopped returning my hails. And then I felt like we just weren't connecting anymore.
*twirls his hair innocently, sad look on his face*

I wanted to make things right, so I just kept hailing. And no response... it made me feel unwanted. But... that's just crazy. I'm too adorable. So... so... something must have gone wrong. Someone must have stolen your heart from me.

*takes out his blade*

But it's mine.... they can't have it. And if you won't give it to me... well... I want to make sure no one else can have it. NO... ONE.... ELSE....

Good bye, darling.

GeneralHankerchief
10-11-2009, 00:24
Apologies in advance for the quality of this writeup. It is the second time I am doing this and RL has not been kind.

Day 5

Discussion on the Presence continued as usual. Throughout the day, the members of the vigilante attack on Quartermaster Askthepizzaguy revealed themselves one-by-one. Surprisingly, they came under little pressure. Most of the crew attributed this to the fact that a similar vigilante hit on gibsonsg91921 several nights ago ended up killing a Maven.

Instead, suspicion focused around mainly two crewmen. The first target was White_eyes:D. White_eyes had spent mostly the entire day drunk off an incredible amount of rum, so much so that his speech became incredibly slurred. Indeed, on the few occasions where the rest of the crew could understand him, they were almost in universal agreement that he was saying that he confessed to being a serial killer.

Finally, near the end of the day, White_eyes sobered up enough to clarify that he was, in fact, not the serial killer. Despite this, he still sounded very depressed and it was not enough to let him off the hook.

The second suspect was ricera10, who was also quite drunk. The trick is, he was so far gone that he was sleeping it off the entire day, and was not present for any of the accusations against him. His main attacker was the Quartermaster, who said that he pretty much "smelled suspicious" and that he never saw him at night in groups with the rest of the crew.

Instantly, a debate spawned about whether or not the Quartermaster had too much power. As the Captain was spending more and more time in his own cabin, votes for mutiny started to be called. People were wondering whether or not the Quartermaster was starting to usurp Captain Rabbit's authority. The calls for change, while still faint, could clearly be heard.

Despite this, many people were still ready to listen to the officers and placed their votes on ricera, as instructed. When the dust cleared, the two were tied in votes.

"All right," said Crazed Rabbit, "here's what be happenin' next. Since the crew be deadlocked, it be up to yer officers to decide who walks the plank today. We be retreatin' into our Quarters to discuss it over. In the meantime, make sure the ship be steered straight. The storm from last night took care o'all yer cleanin' duties, so there be no reason to slack with the jobs ye still have! Get to it, lads!" With a nods from the officers, the three men went indoors to the ruined Quarters, leaving the crew to speak amongst themselves.

"They be takin' a while," one of them said.

"Aye, in their little private offices," another concurred.

The banter and grumbling went along like this for a while, with the crew growing more and more discontent. Finally, after what seemed like an eternity, the Captain emerged, flanked by his officers. None of them said anything, though, instead marching straight below decks. The crew was extremely puzzled.

A minute later they came back up, Captain Rabbit in the lead, Louis and Pizzaguy in tow carrying a still-passed out ricera10. Without a word, they marched him straight to the plank and unceremoniously threw him overboard.

"We in our wisdom have decided that ricera is guilty," Rabbit said the crew. "His sentence has just been carried out. Everybody else, back to work. There be a long night ahead of us."

Day 5 tally:

ricera10: 6 (Sasaki, Chaotix, Joooray, Louis, A1, White_eyes) :skull:
White_eyes:D: 6 (Beskar, CA, ACIN, CDF, TinCow, Subotan)

pevergreen: 4 (Centurion, Yaro, SSNeo, slash)
shlin28: 2 (Seamus, pevergreen)
Single votes: Yaro (Reenk), A1_Unit (shlin), Chaotix (Psychonaut), Sasaki (Kukri)

Abstained: 6 (Cr, Double A, ATPG, Diana, Split, DiY)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It is now Night 5. This phase will end Sunday, October 11th, 20:00 US Eastern Time.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Attacked: Centurion1 (n1), LittleGrizzly (n1), taka (n2), Andres (n3), Askthepizzaguy (n4)

Murdered: LittleGrizzly (n1), atheotes (n2), gibsonsg91921 (n2), Tratorix (n3), Iskander 3.1 (n3), Beefy187 (n3), scottishranger (n4), DisgruntledGoat (n4), Andres (n4)

Lynched: woad&fangs (d2), Sigurd (d3), Jolt (d4), ricera10 (d5)

Removed from play: Xehh II, johnhughthom, YLC

Souls aboard (35):
a completely inoffensive name
A Very Super Market
A1 Unit
Askthepizzaguy
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Chaotix
CountArach
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Death is Yonder
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Joooray
Khazaar
KukriKhan
Lord Winter
Louis VI the Fat
miotas
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Reenk Roink
Sasaki Kojiro
Seamus Fermanagh
shlin28
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
SSNeoperestroika
Subotan
taka
TinCow
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan

Louis VI the Fat
10-11-2009, 02:24
wow and we possibly have the most corrupt pirates, ever......Arr! Corrupt is what the beefeaters call a pirate's day of hard, honest work. :pirate:


But you are right of course. We're as corrupt and rotten as Dirty Lou's teeth. Yarr! Hence:

With apologies to my fellow officers: for ten gold, I'll offer my one third of the officer's map to a secret Pirate Treasure. (That is, you receive the accompanying instructions on how we get a shot at fifty gold with this map)
Me, I'm not taking my chances, I'll settle for ten now.

Put the money on my Cayman Islands off-shore account. (That'll be GH). (Hmmm..the GH-ayman Islands then?)

https://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2849/treasuremap.gif (https://img260.imageshack.us/i/treasuremap.gif/)

a completely inoffensive name
10-11-2009, 02:29
I see what you did there Louis.

slashandburn
10-11-2009, 02:30
Arr! Corrupt is what the beefeaters call a pirate's day of hard, honest work. :pirate:


But you are right of course. We're as corrupt and rotten as Dirty Lou's teeth. Yarr! Hence:

With apologies to my fellow officers: for ten gold, I'll offer my one third of the officer's map to a secret Pirate Treasure. (That is, you receive the instructions on how to make (1/3 of) fifty gold with this map)
Me, I'm not taking my chances, I'll settle for ten now.

Put the money on my Cayman Islands off-shore account. (That'll be GH). (Hmmm..the GH-ayman Islands then?)

https://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2849/treasuremap.gif (https://img260.imageshack.us/i/treasuremap.gif/)

Only British or Maven would fall for such a scheme.

Louis VI the Fat
10-11-2009, 02:50
Only British or Maven would fall for such a scheme.Pecunia non olet. :book:


I've received some PM's requesting more information. I'll get back to you soon. Feel free to ask too. I'll take all the names and use random.org to decide the winner.

slashandburn
10-11-2009, 04:52
Pecunia non olet.

I don't speak french.

Splitpersonality
10-11-2009, 05:00
L'argent ne sent pas

a completely inoffensive name
10-11-2009, 06:13
THANK YOU ONLINE TRANSLATOR! WOULD TRANSLATE AGAIN! A+++++++

Beskar
10-11-2009, 07:06
According to Worldlingo -
Pecunia non olet. = Pecunia non olet.
L'argent ne sent pas = Money does not feel

GeneralHankerchief
10-11-2009, 07:20
It's Latin, meaning "the money doesn't smell".

Beskar
10-11-2009, 07:57
It's funny that the french translation is "Money does not feel" then.

Does that mean that the oder in France is so excessive, you can feel it? :book2:

Louis VI the Fat
10-11-2009, 13:41
Pecunia non olet ("money does not smell") is a Latin saying. The phrase originally related to the urine tax levied by the Roman emperors Nero and Vespasian in the 1st century upon the collection of urine.


[edit] History
The Urine Tax (Latin: vectigal urinae) was a tax levied by the Roman emperor Nero in the 1st century upon the collection of urine. The lower classes of Roman society urinated into pots which were emptied into cesspools. The liquid was then collected from public latrines, where it served as the valuable raw material for a number of chemical processes: it was used in tanning, and also by launderers as a source of ammonia to clean and whiten woollen togas.

The tax was eventually discontinued, but it was re-enacted by Nero's successor Vespasian and applied to all public toilets within Rome's now famous Cloaca Maxima (great sewer) system. The Roman historians Suetonius and Dio Cassius report that when Vespasian's son Titus complained to him about the disgusting nature of the tax, his father held up a gold coin and told him, "Non olet! ("It doesn't stink!"). (Dio Cassius, Roman History, Book 65, chapter 14.) This phrase is still used today to show that the value of money is not tainted by its origins. Vespasian's name still attaches to public urinals in France (vespasiennes), Italy (vespasiani), and Romania (vespasiene).


[edit] In literature
"Vespasian's axiom" is referred to in passing in the Balzac short story "Sarrasine," in connection with the mysterious origins of the wealth of a Parisian family. The proverb receives some attention in Roland Barthes's detailed analysis of the Balzac story in his critical study S/Z (Barthes, S/Z, trans. Richard Miller [New York: Hill and Wang - Farrar, Strauss and Giroux, 1974] pages 39–40; see lexia number 26). It is possible that F. Scott Fitzgerald alludes to Vespasian's axiom in The Great Gatsby. As Nick crosses the Queensborough Bridge he observes "the city rising up across the river in white heaps and sugar lumps all built with a wish out of non-olfactory money." (Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby, New York, Scribner, 1925, p.#73).

KukriKhan
10-11-2009, 15:44
Drat. And here I was half-way through constructing a (fake) etymology for the phrase, involving a Roman continuation of a Greek observation of Persian goats, involving fig leaves, miserly farmers, and ancient ducats. Oh well. Next time.

Splitpersonality
10-11-2009, 16:35
I probably conjugated it wrong, I suck at french :(

Louis VI the Fat
10-11-2009, 17:17
Hmm...I was wondering:
Do the English actually have got money to spend in this game? I mean, if they don't, then that would mean the buyer is off the hook. (If he can provide me with a cc-ed PM to GH transferring the money)
Could be a way to find the English out.



I probably conjugated it wrong, I suck at french :(The proper expression would be: 'L'argent n'a pas d'odeur'.

Splitpersonality
10-11-2009, 17:28
Right, I just realized my mistake. I was using "to smell" idiomatically, and it doesn't translate like that. It would be more like the money itself does not smell, because it has no nose.

*facepalm*

GeneralHankerchief
10-12-2009, 01:00
Night has ended, no more orders will be accepted.

Processing now.

Lord Winter
10-12-2009, 01:06
To all those I've sent PM's I've gotten behind in the game and am trying to catch up with the thread. I'll respond back to you when I do.

pevergreen
10-12-2009, 02:27
These weird length phases are throwing me off... Gah. 24 hours or bust IMO. :tongue:

GeneralHankerchief
10-12-2009, 02:36
Night 5

Beskar was busy being entertained by a friend of his. Nights aboard the Presence were long, lonely affairs, and he was grateful for the company. On this particular night, his fellow crewman was reflecting on the magnitude of the fast-diminishing feat they had pulled off: the sack of Charleston.

"It be rare for any pirate crew to hold a city hostage, especially nowadays with the great crackdown and the British actually havin' all their ropes in the right place, unlike the Spanish." Beskar sat and nodded knowingly. "'course, even back in the old days, 'twasn't every day that a crew brought home a whole ship's load of treasure, really. Best at it was Morgan, of course, the cleverest sailor who ever did live. Ye know about Panama, don't ye?"

Beskar nodded. Of course he did. Everyone knew about Panama. Despite this, the story never got old, and he let his friend spin the classic tale.

"Well, Morgan had had some previous successes raidin' Spanish territory, as ye know. Ones that come to mind are Puerto Principe, Maracaibo, and Portobello, and the loot from those stashes were beyond countin'. Despite the massive haul from all those, the greed of Morgan was sensational, and he wanted more. Now, the three great Spanish cities of the Caribbean at the time were Havana, Cartagena, and Panama. Nobody worth his salt even dreamed of doing anything with those jewels, not even a night o' hard drinkin'. It was suicide, see. But Morgan, he didn't think like any other man. He saw a weakness in one of the three." He paused, looking out over the ocean, and then resumed.

"He knew Cartagena was nigh unassailable, even then, for the fortifications surrounding the city and harbor were top-o'-the-line. Havana too, was too rich and too heavily-guarded. The Spanish forces were spread out across the Main, ye be knowin' this, and as a result they didn't have enough men to protect any one city. Ye be needin' to be loved by Mother Spain if ye wanted to be protected. Well, Havana was one of the few that Mother Spain deemed worthy of protectin', so Havana was out. But Panama... now, Panama be connected to the Pacific, not actually the Caribbean. Ye had to land on the other side o' the Isthmus in order to make an attack, and the Spanish be countin' on that as their main defense."

"But they still had soldiers and fortifications there, right?" said Beskar.

"Oh, aye, but they were hardly used, because again, nobody even dreamed of attacking it. So, the garrison became a bit... lax, ye might say, and so was its funding. So Morgan figured, if he could get his men to Panama, well, the hard part would be over, and his mateys would find killin' the Spanish t'be easy in comparison. The only problem, of course, was gettin' across that isthmus. 'Twas a relatively thin strip of land, aye, but it be the single worst strip of land that length ye could imagine, what with hills and marsh and jungle the whole bleedin' stretch. Upon the landing, Morgan brought more than enough men to take the city, a number in the thousands, but then they actually started the walk. And then the lives started to be lost. Gettin' lost on the way. Snakebite. Malaria. Starvation. By the time they actually got to the plain east o' the city, the crew was ready to mutiny, unbelievable as it sounds. But Morgan finally found some animals, slaughtered them, fed them to his crew, and got them together long enough for them to band together, and kill the Spanish. Sometime during the sack, a fire was started, and by the time they got out of there with their king's ransom, the city was almost fully consumed by the flames. The cloud of smoke was said to be so high ye could see it from anywhere in the Caribbean, and those sages amongst us said that it signaled the end of an era. 'An end of an era', they said. Imagine that!" he said, and started to laugh. So what does that make us, then?"

"I'm not sure," said Beskar. "I mean, we have to be gettin' back to Nassau first before we become the stuff of legend. No sense in feelin' good about ourselves when there's all this treachery aboard, eh?"

"Aye, how right ye are," said his friend, who was beginning to finger his sword. However, just as he was preparing to pull it out and behead Beskar with one sweep, a group of men walked by, cutlasses drawn.

"But hopefully, none of that will happen tonight, eh mateys?" one of the group said, not so subtly making some motions with his cutlass.

"Aye, Lord be willing," Beskar's "friend" said, turning red in embarrassment and excusing himself shortly afterwards to get some sleep.


SSNeoperestroika was under the distinct impression that he was being watched. He was above decks to get some air, it was true, but his sixth sense was strong and he felt that any more fresh air, at least this night, would be hazardous to his health.

Just as he started to make his way to the stairs back below deck, he sensed some motion behind him. Illuminated by the moonlight was a figure, swinging down from one of the myriad ropes on the ship, ready to behead him as he passed by. Acting purely on reflex, SSNeo ducked, leaving the would-be rope assassin to swing high and miss. As he felt the attack pass over him, SSNeo rose back to his full height, watching with some amusement as he watched his attacker crash face-first into the mast. He made his way back below decks, chuckling.


Despite his persona of a big, burly, never-sober man who had enough tales of tavern wenches to fill a library, Itchy Lou (Diana Abnoba) was actually, at heart, an art aficionado. On previous raids, when the crew had returned to Nassau with their loot, Itchy Lou would usually buy small woodcuts while the rest of the crew went and boozed it up until they were all out of gold. Itchy Lou's art habit left him with just enough money for the cheapest rum and wenches in the port, which probably contributed to his reputation. It was a cycle that made everybody happy.

Itchy Lou would secretly bring his woodcuts aboard, for there was little fear of them being ruined by the water. Sometimes, he would study them above decks, illuminated by the pale moonlight, and appreciate them, knowing that he was one of the very few pirates able to comprehend beauty in such a form. Tonight was one of those nights, just Lou and his woodcuts, in solitude. Or so he thought.

One man saw Itchy Lou sitting, alone, and approached him. "Woodcuts?" he asked, leaving Itchy Lou to look up in delight. "Aye!" he said, surprised. "Be ye an admirer?"

"That I am," said the other man, somewhat embarrassed. "Never thought I'd find another one on board, that's for sure. What be ye studying right now?"

"I got the works of Ugo da Carpi with me right now," Lou said. "A bit lesser-known, but the dealer in Nassau doesn't really get much, so I be happy with what I have. Besides, da Carpi copies work from such other greats as Raphael, allowing their genius to be shown in other forms. I be quite grateful for that, aye. What be some o'yer favorites, my friend?"

"Well," said the second man, noting that he had Itchy Lou's full attention. Lou didn't even notice three men inching up behind him. "I be likin' the work of Albrecht Dürer, meself. He be a master at the woodcut, maybe even the best ever."

"Aye, that he be," said Itchy Lou, still in too much wonder to sense that anything was wrong. "Tell me, do ye be havin' a particularly favorite Dürer work?"

"It just so happens that I do," said the second man. "I be admirin' most his Apocalypse series, especially the 'Four Horsemen' cut. As a matter o'fact, all of us be fans of that particular work." Finally, Itchy Lou looked up in shock, noticing the other men for the first time. It was with this expression that his face would have etched on it forevermore afterwards, as one of the other men lopped his head off as soon as he looked up.


pevergreen was being chased, chased by a single attacker. He did not know what he had done to provoke this man, or even really anything at all about him. All he knew is that he had been scurrying around the ship for two hours now, still being pursued by someone who did not seem to tire.

All the while, pever was slowly losing his energy, his vitality... possibly even his life force itself, although he was too focused on escape to notice. More annoying still, every time he tried to retreat below deck, the pursuer was always there, somehow spookily managing to block his one safe line of retreat.

As pever started to get more panicked and more tired, he made more mistakes. Finally tripping over a loose strand of rope (incidentally enough, the same rope that someone had used earlier in the night to try to kill SSNeoperestroika), he lost his balance and knew it was over. Falling face forward, by the time he turned around, his pursuer was standing right over him, blunderbuss in one hand. By the moonlight, pever could see the man's yellow, yellow teeth. What was possibly even more disturbing is that there seemed to be a second light source forming, this one emanating from the man's eyes. All in all it created a very unearthly appearance, and pever knew he was a goner. All he wanted to know now was...

"...why?" he asked.

He didn't get a response, save for one from Bess the blunderbuss that put an end to any further questions.


In the morning, Captain Crazed Rabbit arose and did his now-standard body count from the night. "Only two," he grumbled to himself upon completion. "That's an improvement." Once he had roused the crew, he addressed them above decks, as usual.

"All right lads," he said, "here's where we stand. It be clear that we're bleedin' 'em out, that much is certain. I've got some more results, and it's good news. Cut me some slack, because our former Quartermaster Sigurd did turn out to be a dirty rotten Maven traitor, after all. Despite the losses of Beefy187, Tratorix, and Iskander 3.1 - loyal crewmen all - we *are* making progress. Fall back on that, lads, and remember that the officers are always right."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It is now Day 6. The phase will end Monday, October 12th, at 22:00 US Eastern.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Attacked: Centurion1 (n1), LittleGrizzly (n1), taka (n2), Andres (n3), Askthepizzaguy (n4), Beskar (n5), SSNeoperestroika (n5)

Murdered: LittleGrizzly (n1), atheotes (n2), gibsonsg91921 (n2), Tratorix (n3), Iskander 3.1 (n3), Beefy187 (n3), scottishranger (n4), DisgruntledGoat (n4), Andres (n4), Diana Abnoba (n5), pevergren (n5)

Lynched: woad&fangs (d2), Sigurd (d3), Jolt (d4), ricera10 (d5)

Removed from play: Xehh II, johnhughthom, YLC

Souls aboard (33):
a completely inoffensive name
A Very Super Market
A1 Unit
Askthepizzaguy
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Chaotix
CountArach
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Death is Yonder
Double A
Joooray
Khazaar
KukriKhan
Lord Winter
Louis VI the Fat
miotas
Psychonaut
Reenk Roink
Sasaki Kojiro
Seamus Fermanagh
shlin28
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
SSNeoperestroika
Subotan
taka
TinCow
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan

pevergreen
10-12-2009, 02:44
Oooooh. I am so very, very angry.

For a few reasons. I really concentrated on this game. But thats the way it goes. :shrug:
edit: decided it was a bit too close to breaking the rules for my comfort. Unsporting for me to say it, put it that way.

Centurion1
10-12-2009, 02:48
so what happened with beskar? was he protected?

White_eyes:D
10-12-2009, 02:50
So you were the one trying to frame ME???....I will need to repay the favor one day:brood:

No wonder why you cut a deal with me, to save your hide:furious3:

scotchedpommes
10-12-2009, 03:09
...he watched his attacker crash face-first into the mast. He made his way back below decks, chuckling.
Indeed, ineptitude will never cease to amuse me. :grin2:

Bring it, fiends.

White_eyes:D
10-12-2009, 03:13
GH.....:no: I want to say.....but you will edit it out every time??:laugh4:

I am innocent anyway....:shrug:

pevergreen
10-12-2009, 03:13
So you were the one trying to frame ME???....I will need to repay the favor one day:brood:

No wonder why you cut a deal with me, to save your hide:furious3:

Who are you talking to?

White_eyes:D
10-12-2009, 03:16
Who are you talking to?

Just some scum:smoking:

Why would the Pro-town officer kill you?:laugh4: because they knew you were guilty..:shrug:

pevergreen
10-12-2009, 03:17
I was guilty? I can neither confirm nor deny that.

Perhaps you should ask who was the fourth in the vig group against ATPG, you never did find out.

Chaotix
10-12-2009, 03:20
Vote: Abstain just to get a vote down because I'm here right now.

Somehow I doubt it was an officer that killed pever.

Beskar
10-12-2009, 03:22
pevergreen was inactive, he never did anything. He wasn't scum, just lazy.

Also, looks like the British are after me. Don't worry, I know it wasn't you who attacked me, White_Eyes:D, they wanted it to look that way though.

pevergreen
10-12-2009, 03:25
I wasn't inactive. Night 1 (as revealed in thread) i was in the vig group against LG. Night 2 and 3 if people know they just have to reveal it.

I think I know who killed me.

White_eyes:D
10-12-2009, 03:27
I thought that was "The long-tailed killer"?:inquisitive:

I really don't think we hit any Brits to be honest...:no:

I think they set-up a fake Protect group..:juggle2:

makes it tricky to find out... Guy one: "Oh we were in a protect group last night, these guys can confirm."

Guy two: "I can confirm that"

Guy three: "I can double confirm that"

whole while they are recruiting away...and maybe a Vig group if they have enough...:juggle2:

TinCow
10-12-2009, 03:33
FYI, pevergreen was the fourth person in the ATPG vig hit. However, I don't think Louis was the one who killed him. This time the blunderbuss killer was described as having some sort of glowing eyes. That seems like a special role to me, not a First Officer kill.

Beskar
10-12-2009, 03:38
A bunch of people were inactive last night. Heads will be rolling.

Also, the best news:

I've got some more results, and it's good news. Cut me some slack, because our former Quartermaster Sigurd did turn out to be a dirty rotten Maven traitor, after all.

:beam:


Louis hasn't killed anyone, his power is investigation.

Splitpersonality
10-12-2009, 03:43
and remember that the officers are always right."

Sigurd was an officer for a bit wasn't he? :devil: