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Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 05:16
I would like to publicly request assistance from all civilized nations in dividing France's territory into several parts and giving them to the glorious victors.
France is no longer an empire, but the walking dead.
Greyblades
11-01-2009, 05:23
Good luck with that. If france seriously invades you I will join in. If on the otherhand they just sit still and do no more than beat off your assaults I'll have no part in it.
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 05:27
They have an army on my border and declared war on me. This war is defensive in nature on my part. All I'm interested in is sweet, sweet justice. And knocking off a king who obviously thinks too highly of himself, and too lowly of others.
:2thumbsup:
I've even changed my mind. I will make no territorial claims to France's land whatsoever. If I am on the victorious side, all of France's land will go to my friends and allies, even if you didn't send any aid or soldiers to assist.
It's chow time, laddies!
Double A
11-01-2009, 05:33
The Ottoman Empire would like to make it well-know that it will see a Bohemian eastern Germany.
And a Turkish south eastern one.
And France is very pompous for believing that it can claim land it doesn't even touch for a "god-given right" when 1) Allah never said anything of the sort, and 2) would be complete bollocks even if He did, because France is obviously not Muslim. Italy is claimed by whoever gets there first. Meaning Spain, Switzerland, and the Ottoman Empire.
A Very Super Market
11-01-2009, 05:56
Switzerland claims to have the higher ground, yet he was the one who rampaged across the HRE for no reason but his own lulz. France is only doing what the emperor should have, stop the madman before he could get a lasting grip on good Germany.
Edit: As you should know, the Holy Roman Empire is an entity created to stop conflict between the member states of the fatherland. While Saxony may well have had excuse to take Thuringia and Magdeburg and the Dutch parts of the Rhineland, the Swiss have no claims whatsoever to anything beyond their mountain lairs. I request the member states to call a meeting.
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 06:02
Switzerland claims to have the higher ground, yet he was the one who rampaged across the HRE for no reason but his own lulz. France is only doing what the emperor should have, stop the madman before he could get a lasting grip on good Germany.
Did you have a bit too much ale, or are you just soiling yourself? :laugh4:
White_eyes:D
11-01-2009, 06:04
I think It should be fun to watch...I don't think ATPG well go down without a huge fight...:bounce:
France missed a turn too....they have lots of cash...not enough units...it will be fun to see who wins:smash:
If France loses....shame on them:no:
Double A
11-01-2009, 06:04
Switzerland claims to have the higher ground, yet he was the one who rampaged across the HRE for no reason but his own lulz. France is only doing what the emperor should have, stop the madman before he could get a lasting grip on good Germany.
Edit: As you should know, the Holy Roman Empire is an entity created to stop conflict between the member states of the fatherland. While Saxony may well have had excuse to take Thuringia and Magdeburg and the Dutch parts of the Rhineland, the Swiss have no claims whatsoever to anything beyond their mountain lairs. I request the member states to call a meeting.
Claims < 0 < army
A Very Super Market
11-01-2009, 06:05
Did you have a bit too much ale, or are you just soiling yourself? :laugh4:
Bit of both. Defenestration and freedom usually leads to such things.
Actually, a lack of any claim tends to lead to international outrage and coalitions against you. Which in turn leads to a larger army than your's attacking you. You Turks are quite inbred and effeminate in your stupidity.
France missed a turn too....they have lots of cash...not enough units...it will be fun to see who wins:smash:
If France loses....shame on them:no:
My guess is that they will raise a large army of mercs. The Swiss better be careful or they will be knee high in French mercs before the year is out.
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 06:20
My guess is that they will raise a large army of mercs. The Swiss better be careful or they will be knee high in French mercs before the year is out.
Well it would seem obvious, they have an army on my border still from last turn. They never intended peace.
There's no making peace with bullies. When Savoy left, their claims on Italy left with them. And they never even publicly claimed Italy.
France didn't claim it either. His reasons for declaring war on me are illegitimate. And I was going to give him the land I got from Spain. I rather thought it was a diplomatic coup on my part, that he was going to benefit from.
The French snob gets nothing, deserves nothing, and will BECOME nothing.
White_eyes:D
11-01-2009, 06:21
Knowing ATPG "Who conquered Medieval 2 as the turks in only 40 turns?" he will likely out maneuver France...::book:
The wars on here are going to make it hard to win...or even total eliminate your opponent:juggle2:
Even if he has one hex left, he still will muster troops and annoy you:yes:
A Very Super Market
11-01-2009, 06:23
Well it would seem obvious, they have an army on my border still from last turn. They never intended peace.
There's no making peace with bullies. When Savoy left, their claims on Italy left with them. And they never even publicly claimed Italy.
France didn't claim it either. His reasons for declaring war on me are illegitimate. And I was going to give him the land I got from Spain. I rather thought it was a diplomatic coup on my part, that he was going to benefit from.
The French snob gets nothing, deserves nothing, and will BECOME nothing.
You are illegitimate.
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 06:23
Oh I predict France will crush me this turn. But the current state of affairs is such that most nations presently have cause to see France die. No one wants to see a belligerent and unfriendly France turn into a superpower, and France has already made several enemies.
I can't believe he'd pick his tiny neighbor and friendly ally to declare war on first. Utterly foolish maneuver.
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 06:24
Knowing ATPG "Who conquered Medieval 2 as the turks in only 40 turns?" he will likely out maneuver France...::book:
23 turns.
Double A
11-01-2009, 06:31
Guys, claims on neutral territory mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in this game. If I said "I claim Ireland!" no ones gonna listen to me. Hell, if I said "I claim Georgia!" and someone else was bordering it and that was the best way to expand, they would take it. And no one is going to listen to a bum who says he claims Italy when he's 10 hexes away and just started war with a friendly nation.
A Very Super Market
11-01-2009, 06:34
You sir, are playing to win, but I am winning at acting.
Double A
11-01-2009, 06:36
Ok its great when you'd rather role-play than actually play, but seriously when people actually start believing a random country claiming Italy, it has gone too far.
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 06:38
You sir, are playing to win, but I am winning at acting.
I offer you roses because it is quite entertaining. :beam:
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/125093070_623f1f78f1.jpg
Splitpersonality
11-01-2009, 06:42
Ok its great when you'd rather role-play than actually play, but seriously when people actually start believing a random country claiming Italy, it has gone too far.
Poland-Lithuania would like to claim Italy.
Too long have my peoples been subjugated to the cold, harsh, unforgiving winters of Poland and/or Lithuania.
We will take Italy, and relax on it's warm beaches.
Thanks for understanding europe.
https://i41.tinypic.com/k06pmc.jpg
You all should have seen this coming. I sure did *watches as ATPG conquers the entire map*
We obviously should have established the Homosapiens Against the Ladronism of ATPG or Habromania Against the Ladronism of ATPG, aka HALP.
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 06:45
LOL I hereby renounce my claims to Italy, because it's patently obvious to me now that they have always been, at heart, Polish territory.
:bow:
Should I find any Italian territory in my possession, it is merely to hold it until I transfer it to my Polish friends. You know, Milan is lovely this time of year.
Splitpersonality
11-01-2009, 06:46
Zygmunt III would be glad to relax on the beaches, with his allies if the land is delivered unto him as promised by his swiss ally.
;)
White_eyes:D
11-01-2009, 06:47
That's going to make it harder on France:laugh4::laugh4:
Double A
11-01-2009, 06:47
I trust that Austria is holding its territories so I don't have to look after them as well.
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 06:49
You all should have seen this coming. I sure did *watches as ATPG conquers the entire map*
I'll be lucky to hold the land I have. :laugh4:
But thanks for the vote of confidence.
Poland-Lithuania would like to claim Italy.
Too long have my peoples been subjugated to the cold, harsh, unforgiving winters of Poland and/or Lithuania.
We will take Italy, and relax on it's warm beaches.
Thanks for understanding europe.
https://i41.tinypic.com/k06pmc.jpg
You sir, have my seal of approval.
https://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6914/1256971898087.jpg
Splitpersonality
11-01-2009, 06:50
Oh boy, all this land-grabbing is making me thirsty.
I think I'll march a detachment into Bordeaux to get some... bordeaux ;)
You guys don't mind do you? I'm sure you have enough to spare.
You sir, have my seal of approval.
https://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6914/1256971898087.jpg
Dear austria, with your blessing I am sure I shall survive this.
I trust that Austria is holding its territories so I don't have to look after them as well.
I've placed them in a Swiss bank account and have decided to retire to the Polish beaches in Italy.
Double A
11-01-2009, 06:54
Oh boy, all this land-grabbing is making me thirsty.
I think I'll march a detachment into Bordeaux to get some... bordeaux ;)
You guys don't mind do you? I'm sure you have enough to spare.
Dear austria, with your blessing I am sure I shall survive this.
I'm sure Whitey can work you into his hitlist if you ask really nicely.
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 06:55
I would just like to add that there will be a Dutch settlement near the Polish beaches of Italy, filled with Austrian citizens. And they will eat Turkish cuisine and sip Spanish wine.
For the lulz, of course.
Splitpersonality
11-01-2009, 06:55
Kidding of course DoubleA :P
but I mean come on
How could someone not be afraid of this.
http://alphaimagemodelworkshop.com/Gallery%20image/Winged%20Hussar/WingedHussarLHS.jpg
Double A
11-01-2009, 06:57
They could be blind. Or not have the internet.
Being a Swiss mercenary springs to mind... but seriously though that dude's freaking scary. Keep him on your side of the black sea WE.
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 06:57
My god... that thing is huge... and longer than I expected. I'm not sure anyone can handle a beast that size.
:wink:
Splitpersonality
11-01-2009, 06:58
I have no interest in any land of yours dear Ottomans, just a port in the black sea, and possibly a trade alliance, this I will be fine with. :bow:
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 07:01
Sigged in what, 15 seconds? :laugh4:
Splitpersonality
11-01-2009, 07:01
Just about, almost as fast as your country's going to fall to France, most likely :D
Double A
11-01-2009, 07:02
My god... that thing is huge... and longer than I expected. I'm not sure anyone can handle a beast that size.
:wink:
lolwut?
Ok hurry up with the write-up, I wish to be awake for my grande victory! Chop chop!
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 07:02
Not everyone can wield a fearsome and terrifying weapon like yours.
I have to make do with my little Swiss pike man.
Double A
11-01-2009, 07:03
Isn't that like saying "I have to make do with the BFG 9000, oh well..."
A Very Super Market
11-01-2009, 07:04
Black Sea is overrated. Now, inland Saharan sand dunes, those are where it's at. Plus, it's only cold at night!
Edit: Oh, and thank you for the roses, for the Czechs do love our frilly boutiques. More so than the French actually.
But since we're so German, we like Eidelweiss more. :snobby:
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 07:06
Isn't that like saying "I have to make do with the BFG 9000, oh well..."
Are you suggesting you have a BFG?
Can I touch it?
Double A
11-01-2009, 07:06
I love having territories not on the map. I can take a vacation anytime I want, and in any climate except Freeze Your Ass Off in Antarctica.
Are you suggesting you have a BFG?
Can I touch it?
Yes, but be gentile. It startles easily.
Splitpersonality
11-01-2009, 07:07
Mine's B-ier
:(
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 07:10
Yes, but be gentle. It startles easily.
Does it have a tendency to fire too quickly?
Double A
11-01-2009, 07:12
Only around women.
Splitpersonality
11-01-2009, 07:12
Guys we're all getting a little off
topic here, come on :(
Double A
11-01-2009, 07:15
Of course, lets get back to bashing France.
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 07:16
Only around women.
Send some of your huge army to France then. I hear that even the men are ladies there. :clown:
(This is all IC game-related in-good-fun taunting, no offense Subotan)
seireikhaan
11-01-2009, 07:41
Gents, can we please keep the spam count down a wee tad, please?
For the mod's sakes, pretty please.
Gents, can we please keep the spam count down a wee tad, please?
For the mod's sakes, pretty please.
What in the :daisy:? I don't see Mongolia anywhere on the map. :inquisitive:
GeneralHankerchief
11-01-2009, 07:49
Okay guys, I just came back from an essentially .Orgless day to find 4+ pages of unread material waiting for me. Most of it was unnecessary or outright spam. I don't mind it so much if all of it's worthwhile and on-topic, but for the love of God, never make me have to do this again.
Thank you.
Signed, my (under-siege) sanity
Ibn-Khaldun
11-01-2009, 08:51
I agree with GH.
I just don't want this to be locked before things get really exciting(which they will by looking current orders).
I agree with GH.
I just don't want this to be locked before things get really exciting(which they will by looking current orders).
When will the next chapter be up?
Ibn-Khaldun
11-01-2009, 09:22
When will the next chapter be up?
It would take about day to go through orders.
However, if I can do it faster then perhaps this evening.
EDIT: FYI, Players still have 1 hour and 30 minutes if they want to change something in their orders or if they want to make some public statements I could use in the writeup.
I would like to publicly request assistance from all civilized nations in dividing France's territory into several parts and giving them to the glorious victors.
France is no longer an empire, but the walking dead.
I take that as a sign of weakness.
They have an army on my border and declared war on me. This war is defensive in nature on my part. All I'm interested in is sweet, sweet justice. And knocking off a king who obviously thinks too highly of himself, and too lowly of others.
For the record, I do not seek to conquer Switzerland outright. That is barbaric. I only seek to restore the lands that I have claims for back to me, i.e. Framche-Comte and "Swiss Italy".
I've even changed my mind. I will make no territorial claims to France's land whatsoever. If I am on the victorious side, all of France's land will go to my friends and allies, even if you didn't send any aid or soldiers to assist.
It's chow time, laddies!
So you claim that this is a defensive war, yet you wish to utterly annihilate France (Somehow) over a slice of Burgundy?
Well it would seem obvious, they have an army on my border still from last turn. They never intended peace.
.
Ridiculous. I didn't move last turn because I didn't have access to a computer. Expanding your lands in my direction, so it is right next to my main army and then claiming that I want to attack you because my army is next to your border is a preposterous notion. Rather, it appears that you attempted to manipulate the King of France.
There's no making peace with bullies. When Savoy left, their claims on Italy left with them. And they never even publicly claimed Italy.
I've stated my goals in this war, and they are legit. Certainly much more legit than yours. Oh, and since when was warning a nation not to do something, and then enforcing punishment defined as "bullying"?
Oh I predict France will crush me this turn. But the current state of affairs is such that most nations presently have cause to see France die.
Well, if you count "most nations" as meaning "Spain", then you're correct. However, it is obvious that France is the one thing preventing Hapsburg domination of Europe.
Centurion1
11-01-2009, 15:30
saxony wishes all nations to know it hates you all for making him read 3 plus pages of of of well saxony is not quite sure what it was but it made us angry.....
oh and we would be willing to mediate this french swiss conflict.
oh and we would be willing to mediate this french swiss conflict.[/I]
I am as well. I only want what is lawfully mine restored to me, specifically;https://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll286/Phalanxia/30YW_kingdoms_turn2.jpg
That is all I ask.
Cultured Drizzt fan
11-01-2009, 16:15
England would be very greatful if Switzerland and France could settle their issues peacefully. King James has had a small amount of experience mediating between two nations, and would be happy to open channels of communication about this horrible misunderstanding.
We must be an example to the world, and to do that we must all remain willing to compromise.
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 16:16
No.
You have no right to tell me where I cannot expand. Especially when you do it in such a repugnant manner, while threatening my nation. We are not to be dictated to.
Especially when I had already said you could have the Spanish land I acquired. :rolleyes: Then you demand it under threat of war? Ridiculous.
All it looks like now is backpedaling.
I take that as a sign of weakness.
Diplomacy isn't a weakness, it's an art form which not only makes peace, but can be even more devastating than warfare if used correctly.
For the record, I do not seek to conquer Switzerland outright. That is barbaric. I only seek to restore the lands that I have claims for back to me, i.e. Framche-Comte and "Swiss Italy".
Sure, you only want to invade us and take our land a little bit. :beam:
That's supposed to be acceptable?
So you claim that this is a defensive war, yet you wish to utterly annihilate France (Somehow) over a slice of Burgundy?
When a large nation next door demands that I not expand at all (except into friendly Austrian and German territory :no:) and declares war on me before I even get a chance to give them a gift of land, it is time to say no more.
You claim this is a just war, but you are the aggressor. And you have no right to tell me I cannot have unclaimed land that is closer to me than it is to you. Just a turn ago it was impossible for you to reach, because there was a country in the way.
Ridiculous. I didn't move last turn because I didn't have access to a computer. Expanding your lands in my direction, so it is right next to my main army and then claiming that I want to attack you because my army is next to your border is a preposterous notion. Rather, it appears that you attempted to manipulate the King of France.
:dizzy2:
I attempted to offer France a gift, and have more than a few hexes to my name. It is not up to France to tell me what my borders will be.
I've stated my goals in this war, and they are legit. Certainly much more legit than yours. Oh, and since when was warning a nation not to do something, and then enforcing punishment defined as "bullying"?
Since when is making unreasonable demands and declaring war at the drop of a hat considered "bullying"?
Since the beginning of time.
Well, if you count "most nations" as meaning "Spain", then you're correct.
:inquisitive:
However, it is obvious that France is the one thing preventing Hapsburg domination of Europe.
They could have been, if they had been a bit more cunning, tactful, and patient.
France wants a peaceful resolution to the war they just declared for no good reason? They'll get one when Switzerland gets a full and public apology, and when the King of France crosses over into Switzerland alone, drops his pantaloons, and sits on his own sword.
:smash:
We're not interested in peace with France until they learn some manners.
Double A
11-01-2009, 17:05
I trust that Austria is holding its territories so I don't have to look after them as well.
If anyone is confused by this and the one that GH may have deleted but I'm too lazy to find even if he didn't, this is a public declaration of war.
That's right, Austria vs Ottoman Empire on turn 2.
Centurion1
11-01-2009, 17:25
Saxony condemns the ottoman scum for striking the Austrians in their time of weakness and demands that they withdraw their claim for war.
We fully support our christian brothers in this fight against the Muslim heretic and call European nations to war on the infidel. We ask all nations to set aside their quarrels in the face of this blatant disregard for our sacred right as God's people to Europe. WE CALL FOR HOLY WAR
Bohemia and Austria make peace now, we have greater problems to worry about now.
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 17:26
Switzerland also requests that the Ottomans show kindness and friendship to Austria.
Double A
11-01-2009, 17:39
Seriously, everyone knew it would happen. It was an eventuality staring everyone in the face like a Megazord and Godzilla living next to each other.
I wasn't the only one thinking about it. Plenty of other countries have PM'd me asking if I would support them in a war with Austria. I only struck first. And the funny thing is, France, the "supreme supporters of God's law," were in on it too, even though both nations are Catholic.
Saxony condemns the ottoman scum for striking the Austrians in their time of weakness and demands that they withdraw their claim for war.
Time of weakness? Is it my fault they can't keep their foreign holdings under control?
We fully support our christian brothers in this fight against the Muslim heretic and call European nations to war on the infidel. We ask all nations to set aside their quarrels in the face of this blatant disregard for our sacred right as God's people to Europe.
Glad to know I can expand in the Baltic too.
WE CALL FOR HOLY WAR
Ok, a Jihad is called on Vienna.
Bohemia and Austria make peace now, we have greater problems to worry about now.
Ok ok ok, Bohemia and Austria? Making peace? "Hey we are going to rebel against you and take all your lands, but we don't feel like it right now. Wanna make peace?" "KAY!"
And I close with the following statement:
Saxony is a Chihuahua that thinks it owns the world.
Centurion1
11-01-2009, 17:51
And you as an Moslem heretic will burn in hell while i inherit gods kingdom.
The Saxon people will warn you once more. If yo do not heed our warning we will conquer your land, burn your holy places and steal your women. We fear not the Heathen Ottomans for we are the sword of the lord and his light is our shield.
The Saxon people have carved out an empire on one of the toughest most fought over locales on God's earth. What have YOU done. You have destroyed weak and ineffectual empires and yet you insist that you are God's Chosen. BAH we spit on you and eat our pork with relish.
We are chihuahua's with fangs.
END ROLEPLAY/
Double A
11-01-2009, 18:18
and we spit on you from our Harems and our many wives agree with us. If you or any other religion ever occupy our Holy Lands we promise you we shall make it a living hell until you leave or convert to the One True Faith.
We do not destroy weaker nations, we welcome them into ours! The added protection just from being associated with us deters many invaders, and it is an added security many are wise to accept. Much like what Austria has done with you, you big hypocrite!
A Very Super Market
11-01-2009, 18:25
Yes, but you're muslim. You have cooties /ooc
Double A
11-01-2009, 18:27
Cooties? What are cooties?
I assume they mean Janissaries, Sipahis, and Horse Archers.
Splitpersonality
11-01-2009, 18:30
Oh yes, your Janissaries, we'll see how they end up in a few hundred years :evil:
No.
You have no right to tell me where I cannot expand. Especially when you do it in such a repugnant manner, while threatening my nation. We are not to be dictated to.
Your inconsequential defiance will do nothing to prevent your inevitable defeat.
Especially when I had already said you could have the Spanish land I acquired. :rolleyes: Then you demand it under threat of war? Ridiculous.
All it looks like now is backpedaling.
.
First, you are forgetting that Spain gave you that land probably in order to aggravate me, since that was No 1. target for me to acquire. By giving that to you, he wanted to divide us.
Looks like he was successful.
Diplomacy isn't a weakness, it's an art form which not only makes peace, but can be even more devastating than warfare if used correctly.
.
I understand that. It's just your message looked like a cry for help more than anything else.
Sure, you only want to invade us and take our land a little bit. :beam:
That's supposed to be acceptable?
.
First of all, that was never your land originally. Second, it's a lot more acceptable than trying to use the dismemberment of France as a bribe to get others to intervene on your behalf.
When a large nation next door demands that I not expand at all (except into friendly Austrian and German territory :no:) and declares war on me before I even get a chance to give them a gift of land, it is time to say no more.
You claim this is a just war, but you are the aggressor. And you have no right to tell me I cannot have unclaimed land that is closer to me than it is to you. Just a turn ago it was impossible for you to reach, because there was a country in the way.
Like I stated, I had promised that land to the Duke of Savoy. Since I am now the Duke of Savoy, I have no choice but to take it. I warned you, you ignored it and now you will face the consequences.
Since when is making unreasonable demands and declaring war at the drop of a hat considered "bullying"?
Since the beginning of time.
.
How is "Don't attack these cities" an unreasonable demand?
France wants a peaceful resolution to the war they just declared for no good reason? They'll get one when Switzerland gets a full and public apology, and when the King of France crosses over into Switzerland alone, drops his pantaloons, and sits on his own sword.
:smash:
We're not interested in peace with France until they learn some manners.
Apology? Ha! I'll make sure to inscribe "SORRY" onto every cannonball that hits your puny walls.
We must be an example to the world, and to do that we must all remain willing to compromise.
I am willing to compromise. I could easily blow holes in Switzerland like one of it's famous cheeses. Instead, I am merely liberating territory that they never had in the first place.
Double A
11-01-2009, 18:35
How about how they end up in thirty years when I will be recruiting them from Syria to Saxony?
Splitpersonality
11-01-2009, 18:38
How about how they end up in thirty years when I will be recruiting them from Syria to Saxony?
Fair enough :P
Double A
11-01-2009, 18:39
And from Ragusa to Riga?
A Very Super Market
11-01-2009, 18:43
The Ottomans are weak and obsolete. We no longer need Constatinople to get our spices, dyes, and fabric. You are a dying mongrel, a sad mix of Greek, Roman, and Turk, and this is just their last attempt at humping Europe's leg before they fade into obscurity.
Double A
11-01-2009, 18:50
Oh boohoo I think I'm going to go cry in my palace with golden furniture, what ever shall I do? The mean little rebel has hurt my feelings!
Oh wait he's not a rebel anymore, he joined forces with his former master once again, trying to retain his small sense of pride and dignity, and now threatens me because he is too insecure with him self!
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 18:53
Your inconsequential defiance will do nothing to prevent your inevitable defeat.
At least you haven't lost your sense of humor.
First, you are forgetting that Spain gave you that land probably in order to aggravate me, since that was No 1. target for me to acquire. By giving that to you, he wanted to divide us.
Looks like he was successful.
I don't care WHY he gave me the land, I publicly stated I was going to give it to you. It is not Spain that divided us, but your blind and unrelenting arrogance, French king.
I understand that. It's just your message looked like a cry for help more than anything else.
It is a feeble man who is defeated by his own pride, rather than his enemies.
First of all, that was never your land originally. Second, it's a lot more acceptable than trying to use the dismemberment of France as a bribe to get others to intervene on your behalf.
It's my land now, and possession is 9/10ths of the law. :bounce:
Really though, I hardly had to say anything to get people to agree to the dismemberment of France. I thought it was going to be hard work, but you've greatly assisted me in getting others to dislike you. I don't even have to lift a finger to see France defeated at this point, you've done it to yourself.
Like I stated, I had promised that land to the Duke of Savoy. Since I am now the Duke of Savoy, I have no choice but to take it. I warned you, you ignored it and now you will face the consequences.
French King: "I have no choice but to do whatever I decide"
French King: "I warned you, now face the consequences"
How is "Don't attack these cities" an unreasonable demand?
I can't tell which is greater; French arrogance or their ignorance about their own arrogance. :laugh4:
Apology? Ha! I'll make sure to inscribe "SORRY" onto every cannonball that hits your puny walls.
Ah, so you do admit you're sorry. Very big of you. :laugh4:
I could easily blow holes in Switzerland
Oh behave ~:flirt:
It seems the French aren't getting enough love at home. What's the matter, your wives not doing it for you?
:bounce:
Double A
11-01-2009, 18:58
The sheep must all be taken.
Splitpersonality
11-01-2009, 19:00
Psssh...
The sheep may safely graze.
Cultured Drizzt fan
11-01-2009, 19:02
I Have to admit, The Ottomans seem very skilled at making every nation of Europe hate them.....
Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2009, 19:03
I always wondered why the French liked frogs so much. But now I understand only too well. :no:
Run Kermit run!!! The French are coming and they're LONELY!!! :hide:
Double A
11-01-2009, 19:04
I Have to admit, The Ottomans seem very skilled at making every nation of Europe hate them.....
The French must have taught me something.
Splitpersonality
11-01-2009, 19:04
I Have to admit, The Ottomans seem very skilled at making every nation of Europe lust for them.....
This seems to be more appropriate.
A Very Super Market
11-01-2009, 19:04
Which is a problem when you consider the fact that all but one of the largest European nations can attack them on the next turn.
Bah, I can't reply in time with the spam.
Double A
11-01-2009, 19:05
This seems to be more appropriate.
:bow:
That must be it.
Double A
11-01-2009, 19:31
Hey could we have privateers in this game? We could recruit them for maybe 1000$ and they would show up in a random hex, but there's a limit to them? And they can only attack other navies, no ports?
Centurion1
11-01-2009, 20:20
The ottomans are full of themselves and speak rashly for someone who is already at war.
The Austrian government is shocked at the Ottoman Sultan's declaration of war against them. We will not be beaten as easily as the Ottoman's think.
Ibn-Khaldun
11-01-2009, 23:31
I tried to finish up everything but some things are still unfinished.
So, this means no last turn reports at the moment but I try to send them tomorrow before I go to work.
However, I would like to post write up so that you could start making plans for the future.
Some of you really need to.
Turn 3 will probably end in Thursday.
scottishranger
11-01-2009, 23:45
Sweden views these events with great interest
It also cannot believe that Bohemia would not use this opportunity to assert its independence.
Centurion1
11-01-2009, 23:53
so you are posting the write up now?
Ibn-Khaldun
11-01-2009, 23:54
-Year 1618-
from July to December
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/30yw/battle_ottomans.jpg
During the summer months in London a treaty was signed between representatives of Saxony and Netherlands. With that treaty Maurits of Nassau agreed to give his provinces in Northern Germany to Saxony. Although the exact wording of that document is unknown some sources say that both Saxony and Netherlands got a rather large sum of money if they keep peace. This did not stop Dutch armies occupying states in Southern Germany. However, in spite of all that, King James I proved himself as a good host and diplomat.
Speaking of him, James I sent in July his armies to conquer the rest of the Ireland and in the end of September he was named King of Ireland. James I was not the only one who managed to add another title to himself. After Duke Charles Emmanuel I suddenly died French king Louis III also became the duke of Savoy. And this sparked the war with the Swiss...
Louis III saw Swiss rule in Franche-Comte as an insult. Although, there were some letters exchanged between each other it did not changed the situation and on the last days of July Louis III declared war on the Swiss Confederation. Army under general de Treville conquered easily Franche-Comte. Afraid of Spanish attack against France an old castle, Chateau Subotan, was repaired and modernized near Spanish Netherlands. Perhaps he was right but the threat did not come from north. General de Soto moved from the Portuguese border to Castille-Aquitaine one. In the same time Swiss continued their Milanese conquest and prepared another army in case French should try to invade their mountainous country.
In Scandinavia, Denmark, after securing Norway, decided to expand their territory more by moving into Novgorod region from north. This most likely will cause some tensions with the Tsar Mikhail who have to deal with another Scandinavian kingdom in his sphere of influence. Tsar had enjoyed the news from Germany where it was stated that Sweden had given it's provinces there to Saxony. Mikhail had thought that Swedish king was losing it's power but Danish incursion in Novgorod nullified all the good news from Germany.
When the Bohemian people revolted against Habsburg rule they never thought that their war will be that short. Bohemian and Imperial armies were ready to tear each other apart but then messengers came to announce truce that was signed few days ago. That treaty gave certain independence to Bohemia and Palatinate Elector Frederick V was named their King.
Having resolved this Bohemian issue Emperor Matthias had hoped that peace will be restored in the Holy Roman Empire but he was wrong. A war was declared by the Ottomans just few days after Austrian Habsburgs had signed peace with Bohemia. Imperial armies were immediately sent south to protect the only port Austria had. In the beginning Ottomans won a border battle against small Austrian army in Hungary but then everything fell apart. A cruel blade cut through Sultan Osman II throat in August just after he had started a campaign against Moldavia. This left their empire without a ruler for some months. The death of their Sultan must have reached to armies in west because General Tilly won 2 battles against small Ottoman armies in August and another Imperial army won battle in Hungary in late October. Those victories destroyed any opposition to Austrian forces in western Balkan and in the Adriatic coastal region. To make things even worse for the Ottomans, small province in Wallachia revolted against their rule and if left unchecked this could spread ideas of freedom even across the regional borders.
Common folks can only hope that these present wars don't get even larger....
The map:
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/30yw/30YW_kingdoms_turn3.jpg
Greyblades
11-02-2009, 00:07
My my, Germany is getting quite crowded.
Centurion1
11-02-2009, 00:09
hey good job ottomans. everyone this is how not to run a war.
Ah now that Saxony is hmmm, larger let us say we believe we are the size of a cocker spaniel now.
I think the Ottoman's underestimated Austria there.
Double A
11-02-2009, 00:30
I also didn't know that I couldn't do anything if my Sultan died. That REALLY would have been a good thing to know.
I would also like to know why I have to declare war before attacking. That really takes out ANY opportunity for a surprise attack.
At all.
Cultured Drizzt fan
11-02-2009, 00:35
King James has been honored, and as he has been so selected, wishes to announce to the nations of Europe the following statement.
The nations of Poland-Lithuania, The Netherlands, The Kingdom of Saxony, The Kingdom of Denmark, And the Kingdom of England, Have all decided it the proper time to announce the mutual alliances and joining between them into The Northern Alliance. The Network of allied kingdoms has been forming for some time, and have decided now to be a proper and prim time to let all of Europe know of its existence.
We expect their may be some surprise at this alliance, which has been formed to help create a peaceful balance in Northern and Middle Europe, as well as promote prosperity among all nations. This alliance is Secular in nature, and thus no nation shall be discredited from joining based on religion. All member nations of the alliance are equal, and all have a say in the induction of new nations into its ranks. The Northern Alliance is always willing to allow a new nation among it, and all who so wish may simply talk to a already existing member to vouch for you.
The Northern alliance does not exist to subsume the independent diplomacy of its member nations and as such separate alliances between member nations and non-members is not frowned upon in the slightest. We are all separate sovereign nations, and our foreign policy is our own to conduct. The Northern alliance is simply a way to show that the member nations have similar overarching goals and are on friendly terms with each other.
The current member nations of the Northern alliance are as follows;
The Kingdom of England, Ruled by King James 1st (Cultured Drizzt Fan)
The Kingdom of Saxony, Ruled by Konig the Great (Centurion1)
The Kingdom of Denmark, Ruled by King Christian IV (Chaotix)
The Kingdom of Poland-Lithuania, Ruled by King Zygmunt III (Split)
The Netherlands, Ruled by Maurice of Nassu (Beskar)
In closing, I wish to once again stress that the creation of the Northern alliance does not change anything about the foreign policy of the member nations. We all have our own opinions on the politics of the world. However should a member nation be threatened by another then we shall ALL band together to aid our brother. (except under strenuous circumstances due to other binding treaties with non member nations. The Northern alliance does not exist to dictate whether a member can or can not stay neutral)
(Well, the Netherlands is going to be pretty neutral and peaceful, as I am by far, the smallest faction, even after I reunited the Netherlands under one banner.)
scottishranger
11-02-2009, 00:49
The Kingdom of Sweden views this "Northern Alliance" as a grave threat to our territorial sovereignty. Be assured, we shall be looking for allies to counterbalance this.
Ibn-Khaldun
11-02-2009, 00:50
I also didn't know that I couldn't do anything if my Sultan died. That REALLY would have been a good thing to know.
I would also like to know why I have to declare war before attacking. That really takes out ANY opportunity for a surprise attack.
At all.
Your sultans death didn't have anything to do with the loss of those battles. Austrian armies just had better troops.
And declaration of war is needed so that larger kingdoms(like France) wouldn't steamroll over smaller states(like Savoy was).
Currently other players can at least try to set up some sort of defence.
Centurion1
11-02-2009, 00:57
we the saxon people also wish for nothing but peace.
Cultured Drizzt fan
11-02-2009, 00:58
The Kingdom of Sweden views this "Northern Alliance" as a grave threat to our territorial sovereignty. Be assured, we shall be looking for allies to counterbalance this.
Great. Moving on..... Suffice to say we are not created in spite of you Sweden. We exist to have a peaceful balance of power in Northern Europe. And each member are there own sovereign nation. We all have separate treaties outside of the alliance, that we honor just as vigorously as the alliance itself. Thats all I really have to say that could placate you.
Just to recap King James is staying Neutral in any current conflicts going on in Europe. The Franco/Swiss conflict hits us especially hard, as we had wished to remain friendly with both.... So we are remaining neutral, which we hope does not irritate either side....
Although we are with many others who state the Ottoman Invasion of Austria is foolish and they have no claim to Cristian Europe.
Centurion1
11-02-2009, 01:03
The Kingdom of Sweden views this "Northern Alliance" as a grave threat to our territorial sovereignty. Be assured, we shall be looking for allies to counterbalance this.
sweden my northern brother, i have nothing but respect for you. There is no need to become angry about the northern alliance. I will still maintain trade with you and our prior arrangements still stand.
oh and you are going to remove your troops from my land correct? i see you have a ship nearby
A Very Super Market
11-02-2009, 01:03
Of course, the Saxons should have no rights to take Westphalia, nor do the Dutch to the Rhineland. Only the Bohemian king has claims to the Rhenanian lands.
Rhinelands are a vassal state under protection of the dutch armies due to their own free-will. I haven't laid claim to those lands as I, Maurice of Nassu don't own them.
Centurion1
11-02-2009, 01:09
technically as a rebel you have no rights in the HRE land claims. And saxons have rights to Westphalia by the marriage of the Grand Duke to Konig the Great's daughter. So suffice it to say we have rights there.
Greyblades
11-02-2009, 01:19
Hmm, I wonder why portugal isnt in the northern alliance. Apart from the titular reason I mean.
A Very Super Market
11-02-2009, 01:20
Westphalia is a region made up of countless small states. Unless your daughter quite promiscuous, I highly doubt that.
I may be a rebel, but I am still the King of Bohemia, and thus, elector of the Palatinate, ruler of all lands associated.
Centurion1
11-02-2009, 01:26
sigh, our dear daughter, married the major westphalian faction which is currently owned by the brandenburg-prussians, whom are OUR vassals. so beside our right by blood we also own it by virtue of owning their liegelords land.
and you should stop making claims you are in no position to make.
A Very Super Market
11-02-2009, 01:58
And how exactly does that give you the bonuses of an entire hex? The courts still find it difficult to discern individual states in the Rhineland, as no one is capable of making maps large enough to include them all.
Double A
11-02-2009, 02:33
Great, I think I just figured out what I did wrong.
I thought I was playing against the AI.
Rest assured that I will take on this challenge actually as a challenge instead of just another pushover AI faction from TW.
Austria, may the best country win :bow:
scotchedpommes
11-02-2009, 02:43
In light of recent turmoil in this, "Middle Europe" so termed, the Principality of Transylvania shall move to secure the Moldavian territories. For peace, stability and- one hastens to add, with the agreement of the Ottoman Empire.
scottishranger
11-02-2009, 02:45
sweden my northern brother, i have nothing but respect for you. There is no need to become angry about the northern alliance. I will still maintain trade with you and our prior arrangements still stand.
oh and you are going to remove your troops from my land correct? i see you have a ship nearby
Yes, my transport ship is moving to take my garrison away. I merely ran out of moves.
As to the Northern Alliance, Sweden realizes it wasnt created because of us, we also recognize that this is a major power bloc that could be contradictory to Swedish interests.
Centurion1
11-02-2009, 02:46
look bohemia, im going to expand there. my daughters husband has endorsed it and the brandenburgs are in no position to argue. like it or not, im not going to kowtow to some stinking bohemians.
They promised to defend me and since I am really small, I said yes. :beam:
Centurion1
11-02-2009, 02:50
sweden there we have no ill will towards you and hopefully neither do you. we ourselves just recently completed a business deal and i like to believe our nations are friends with each other. I know also that the danes feel no ill will towards you and neither do the poles.
scottishranger
11-02-2009, 02:53
Speaking of the Danes:
Please stop your expansion to the north, both Sweden and Muscovy consider that territory a sovereign part of the Tsardom of Muscovy by treaty
Great, I think I just figured out what I did wrong.
I thought I was playing against the AI.
Rest assured that I will take on this challenge actually as a challenge instead of just another pushover AI faction from TW.
Austria, may the best country win :bow:
:dizzy2:
Cultured Drizzt fan
11-02-2009, 02:59
Yes, my transport ship is moving to take my garrison away. I merely ran out of moves.
As to the Northern Alliance, Sweden realizes it wasnt created because of us, we also recognize that this is a major power bloc that could be contradictory to Swedish interests.
Fair enough.
Centurion1
11-02-2009, 03:02
^ dont worry austria, the heretics are just trying to excuse their inability to correctly command military forces.
Splitpersonality
11-02-2009, 03:48
I would like to ask that the Ottoman empire, vacate the area on europe's side of the black sea, the area known as Moldavia.
I would enjoy having a port in this area, if you would be so kind as to allow me a hex or two in there, I would like to remain peaceful with you, and I'm sure we can work something out regarding these hexes, but a second port down there could be essential for my country.
Your friend.
Poland-Lithuania :bow:
Speaking of the Danes:
Please stop your expansion to the north, both Sweden and Muscovy consider that territory a sovereign part of the Tsardom of Muscovy by treaty
I am glad that you included me in this treaty which recognized the lands as owned by the Russian Czar. [/sarcasm]
I am surprised that the Czar himself did not think to ask me about this when he saw my armies on the border, considering we are steadfast allies. For now, I will keep the land, but I will be happy to sell it to the Czar at a low price, if and when he consults me on the matter. I have found it to be full of Orthodox Christians and more trouble than it is worth to control, anyway.
In the meantime, I would ask the Swedish King to stop blocking Danish waters with his ships.
Hmm, I wonder why portugal isnt in the northern alliance. Apart from the titular reason I mean.
We hope that their goal of peace and stability in northern Europe is successful, but Portugal has no affiliation with any of the other member nations, we are simply maintaining the close relations that have existed between England and Portugal throughout the centuries.
scottishranger
11-02-2009, 04:12
I am glad that you included me in this treaty which recognized the lands as owned by the Russian Czar. [/sarcasm]
I am surprised that the Czar himself did not think to ask me about this when he saw my armies on the border, considering we are steadfast allies. For now, I will keep the land, but I will be happy to sell it to the Czar at a low price, if and when he consults me on the matter. I have found it to be full of Orthodox Christians and more trouble than it is worth to control, anyway.
In the meantime, I would ask the Swedish King to stop blocking Danish waters with his ships.
Nonetheless, the King does not like your presence there.
King Gustavus Adolphus also considers the Kattegat to be Swedish waters.
Nonetheless, the King does not like your presence there.
King Gustavus Adolphus also considers the Kattegat to be Swedish waters.
You consider seas surrounded by land indisputably held by the Danish King to be Swedish waters? I think we have a slight misunderstanding, then. I will ask you civilly once again: please move your ships out of Danish sea, and use the strait only in passing through it. We do not want your ships idly blocking passage between our lands.
scotchedpommes
11-02-2009, 04:20
I would like to ask that the Ottoman empire, vacate the area on europe's side of the black sea, the area known as Moldavia.
I would enjoy having a port in this area, if you would be so kind as to allow me a hex or two in there, I would like to remain peaceful with you, and I'm sure we can work something out regarding these hexes, but a second port down there could be essential for my country.
Your friend.
Poland-Lithuania :bow:This territory has already been ceded to Transylvania, according to terms agreed with the Empire. Any developments regarding this should be negotiated in a timely fashion- with a view to what is regarded as "essential" to others, as well as to yourselves.
In regards to our last statement:
Upon a second look at the map, I believe I may have made an error. We propose the strait dividing the Baltic from the North Sea be considered neutral territory, and that we both only use the waters in passing, so as to inconvenience noone.
I assure you, we have nothing but peaceful intentions, and I hope this is reflected in my words.
Splitpersonality
11-02-2009, 04:30
This territory has already been ceded to Transylvania, according to terms agreed with the Empire. Any developments regarding this should be negotiated in a timely fashion- with a view to what is regarded as "essential" to others, as well as to yourselves.
Ah, all is fine then, I will rescind my point.
I am fine with my northern ports, since they are surely your only chance at a port down there, good luck :bow:
Double A
11-02-2009, 04:57
I would like to ask that the Ottoman empire, vacate the area on europe's side of the black sea, the area known as Moldavia.
I would enjoy having a port in this area, if you would be so kind as to allow me a hex or two in there, I would like to remain peaceful with you, and I'm sure we can work something out regarding these hexes, but a second port down there could be essential for my country.
Your friend.
Poland-Lithuania :bow:
Yep I already ceded it over to Transylvania. If you want a port on the Black Sea, ask either Russia or Transylvania if they don't mind you taking part of the Crimea or Moldavia.
I would also like to say, if any one is caught sailing through the Bosporus without my permission I will cancel all friendly agreements as I assume you are trying to take Istanbul.
However, all you need to do is ask, and I'll probably let you past.
Unless your name is Saxony.
Splitpersonality
11-02-2009, 05:01
I, of course, mean you no harm Ottomans, despite our playful ribbing, I do have all possible intentions of staying on good terms with you, and I hope you feel the same. I do not wish to see you level Europe as I know you easily could.
Double A
11-02-2009, 05:04
I, of course, mean you no harm Ottomans, despite our playful ribbing, I do have all possible intentions of staying on good terms with you, and I hope you feel the same. I do not wish to see you level Europe as I know you easily could.
Subotan, take notes. THIS is how you handle diplomacy.
White_eyes:D
11-02-2009, 07:19
I am a little concerned, that Denmark take some of Novgorod without warning or asking me.....both Sweden and Poland gave me a heads-up first....I will overlook it because It's somewhat contested..:bow:
Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2009, 08:04
Subotan, take notes. THIS is how you handle diplomacy.
No, THIS is how you handle diplomacy.
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/FROG0406.jpg
*begins chucking dead frogs at the French diplomat*
Ibn-Khaldun
11-02-2009, 08:42
Great, I think I just figured out what I did wrong.
I thought I was playing against the AI.
Rest assured that I will take on this challenge actually as a challenge instead of just another pushover AI faction from TW.
Austria, may the best country win :bow:
:yes:
It's not M2TW where you can conquer the world with just peasants, militia and the like(like ATPG have done).
Here you have only 6 orders per turn no matter how big you are. So, even one wrong order could doom you.
Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2009, 09:07
I like killing things with untrained serfs armed with sticks.
:yes:
It's not M2TW where you can conquer the world with just peasants, militia and the like(like ATPG have done).
Here you have only 6 orders per turn no matter how big you are. So, even one wrong order could doom you.
Does that mean even the Netherlands can actually be useful then? :beam:
Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2009, 09:28
Does that mean even the Netherlands can actually be useful then? :beam:
No. :brood:
Ibn-Khaldun
11-02-2009, 09:33
Does that mean even the Netherlands can actually be useful then? :beam:
Yes. :yes:
Subotan, take notes. THIS is how you handle diplomacy.
I hyave ben very busy in the diplomatic department. I've just got a short temper that's all.
Btw, for all those confused about Bohemia's claims to the Rhineland, see here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_Palatinate#First_Electorate.2C_1356.E2.80.931648)
Ibn-Khaldun
11-02-2009, 11:44
Can I bang my head against the wall? :inquisitive:
Well, I use spreadsheets to store all information about this game. It's very good system and have made my life a lot easier hosting this game.
However, I haven't used spreadsheets for one thing they are meant to be - calculating income. :wall:
Don't know what I was thinking before!! :shrug:
So, I'll just need little time to insert all financial data into spreadsheet file and in future Report PM's should be sent when write-up is posted.. and not couple of days later. :sweatdrop:
Since I go to work soon I am not able to send out pm's today but I will send them out tomorrow! :smash:
I apologize for all the inconveniences this might cause. :shame:
No need to apologise to us, you should be apologising to yourself for making such a huge task so much harder :laugh4:
Centurion1
11-02-2009, 18:59
Unless your name is Saxony.
__________________
mature, we do not want your ports anyway, they are old and outdated.
johnhughthom
11-02-2009, 20:48
Can I bang my head against the wall? :inquisitive:
Well, I use spreadsheets to store all information about this game. It's very good system and have made my life a lot easier hosting this game.
However, I haven't used spreadsheets for one thing they are meant to be - calculating income. :wall:
Don't know what I was thinking before!! :shrug:
So, I'll just need little time to insert all financial data into spreadsheet file and in future Report PM's should be sent when write-up is posted.. and not couple of days later. :sweatdrop:
Since I go to work soon I am not able to send out pm's today but I will send them out tomorrow! :smash:
I apologize for all the inconveniences this might cause. :shame:
Let me know if I can help with this I-K.
Question: In a peace treaty, can we swap land that we haven't occupied?
Question: In a peace treaty, can we swap land that we haven't occupied?
No.
You need to have the land, to swap it. You could add conditional things like "Once I got the land, we can swap it" or "I will allow you to take that land" sort of thing.
Cultured Drizzt fan
11-02-2009, 23:46
Why? That's just silly.
depends what you mean. when you say unoccupied territory do you mean land you have not occupied but your enemy has? Or do you mean land no one has yet.
Since France isn't near any unoccupied territory, I assume he means his enemy has it. Which I'm sure you can do if the other party agrees that is.
Cultured Drizzt fan
11-02-2009, 23:53
Since France isn't near any unoccupied territory, I assume he means his enemy has it. Which I'm sure you can do if the other party agrees that is.
I think that is correct. :yes:
Right ok, he means this -
He wants land some one else owns, and he wants to swap land for that land?
If that is the case, then yes.
If you are talking about the white hex's then no.
Centurion1
11-03-2009, 00:24
i guess like technically you can give over right sto white hexes but you cannot give them.
Centurion1
11-03-2009, 00:47
So subotan how far are you going to pursue this war with the swiss, till their extinction as a nation?
A Very Super Market
11-03-2009, 03:23
Presumably, limit them to their original hexes. Why would anyone want that barren mountain?
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2009, 04:01
My pride is a little hurt that you fellows don't consider France to be dead already.
Don't worry, I believe in you ATPG!
Double A
11-03-2009, 04:34
My pride is a little hurt that you fellows don't consider France to be dead already.
I consider it as dead as Osman II.
I am a little concerned, that Denmark take some of Novgorod without warning or asking me.....both Sweden and Poland gave me a heads-up first....I will overlook it because It's somewhat contested..:bow:
The land was close to mine, and I did not know that you had claimed all of it for yourself. :shrug:
I did not feel the need to consult you on it.
As I've said before, I'm completely content to sell you the land at a nice low price. Better than me having to spend time and money trying to convert them; they may as well be ruled by an Orthodox king.
White_eyes:D
11-03-2009, 06:49
I was raising :daisy: with Sweden over it.....did you really think I would not care in that case?:inquisitive:(my bonuses are in Russia....:brood:)
No harm done this time.....but please refrain from doing such things in the future:bow:
I was raising :daisy: with Sweden over it.....did you really think I would not care in that case?:inquisitive:(my bonuses are in Russia....:brood:)
No harm done this time.....but please refrain from doing such things in the future:bow:
Again, as had been made clear- you never told me of your treaties or arguments with Sweden, and you only mentioned border conflicts in-thread: which were much further south than the land I occupied. I'm not going to pretend I made a transgression just to appease you; if you wanted all of the Novgorod region you should have explicitly told me, and then I could have used the turn that I wasted taking those lands on something more important.
Make me an offer in private, and I'll sell the land to you. That's what allies are for. :clown:
White_eyes:D
11-03-2009, 07:03
A little later.....:juggle2:
I have quite a bit of land to take still....no sense in taking something I can't defend right away..:shrug:
So subotan how far are you going to pursue this war with the swiss, till their extinction as a nation?
Like I said, I intended originally to take "Swiss Italy".
My pride is a little hurt that you fellows don't consider France to be dead already.
Presumably, limit them to their original hexes. Why would anyone want that barren mountain?
Buuuut, should they continue to be annoying, I may have to limnit them to their original territory, and bequeath their territory on the Rhineland back to it's rightful owners (Bohemia)
Greyblades
11-03-2009, 12:40
Forgetting someone?
Like the Catholic Italians living under the Zwinglian yoke of the Swiss? I am liberating them from Spanish and Swiss treachery.
Greyblades
11-03-2009, 13:05
Trechery? I havent betrayed anyone.
Double A
11-03-2009, 13:23
Can we get an extension if the deadline is today? I just got my report back overnight and I won't be on for 12 hours (school + dress rehearsal)
Spain, is the nation of imperialistic intentions, dominating Europe with its will and its might. Its steadfast refusal to accept the independence of the Dutch Republic, to back-out of deals itself arranged, to deny very generous and fair offers for the freedom of the Dutch people, oppress them with the might of their army, while hundreds flee the Southern States from Spanish Oppression to the North.
The Spanish insult against the Dutch people get worse, especially as they cannot be trusted and their word means nothing. Spanish speak lies, deals it will say it will accept to, but never signs the dotted line. They attempt to mock the Dutch as they get more arrogant. Upon breaking their word multiple times, they offered the absurb deal of us taking Ireland from the English, to give it to them, then they might "consider" our request.
We advise the Spanish to take a radical redirection to their current approach to the Netherlands, or they will their fingers burnt, playing with fire..
https://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1588/affairsofspain.jpg
*Special thanks to Fragony for this picture. (Which I edited slightly)
Greyblades
11-03-2009, 16:06
Um, I kinda meant in-game. And turing down your offers for the sothern netherlands doesnt realy count as treachery.
Trechery? I havent betrayed anyone.
You made deals with the Swiss to divide up the Italian people between yourselves :stare:
Um, I kinda meant in-game. And turing down your offers for the sothern netherlands doesnt realy count as treachery.
Still, if the Dutchman's allegations are correct, then it's a clear display of your out of control imperialism.
Greyblades
11-03-2009, 21:24
What? Thats not trechery I have no agreements with Italy so who am I betraying? Are you sure you know the meaning of the word?
Cultured Drizzt fan
11-03-2009, 21:31
All I know is that Spain better not stick anything into the channel he does not want cut off. :brood: I have known about the whole "I want Ireland" bit for a while, and it gets my blood boiling. Now I don't even have to pretend that I am friendly to Spain. :beam:
I Fully support Dutch Reunification. The Spaniards have no right to keep the area. As such any transports heading to the Netherlands found in English waters will be sunk. With extreme prejudice.
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2009, 22:18
What? Thats not trechery I have no agreements with Italy so who am I betraying? Are you sure you know the meaning of the word?
Are you still speaking to the French man and expecting something reasonable to come back at you? Take my word for it, you're wasting your time. Your best bet is to stomp it beneath your boot and then wipe it off. In the finest tradition of French diplomacy, after all. :beam:
Greyblades
11-03-2009, 22:42
All I know is that Spain better not stick anything into the channel he does not want cut off. :brood: I have known about the whole "I want Ireland" bit for a while, and it gets my blood boiling. Now I don't even have to pretend that I am friendly to Spain. :beam:
That was a joke. Why would I want that grotty little swamp?
Ibn-Khaldun
11-03-2009, 23:13
Can we get an extension if the deadline is today? I just got my report back overnight and I won't be on for 12 hours (school + dress rehearsal)
Deadline is Thursday.
So, take your time.
Also, those who wanted PO maps, you will get them after I have gotten some sleep.
Edit: Just to remind you all that diplomatic deals should be sent to johnhughtom.
Double A
11-04-2009, 02:08
You all speak of rights by god and by birth, yet none of you except my good Spanish friends realize that the only true right is by conquest.
A Very Super Market
11-04-2009, 02:12
Says a dwindling empire who finds the need to conscript its border garrisons for hopeless wars against an advanced enemy. How do you find war outside the backwaters to be, Turk? We are not Serbs or Bosnians divided by individual families, we are full-fledged nations that you cannot hope to defeat.
Double A
11-04-2009, 02:21
I have plenty of funds, O ye rebel of little faith. I just do not have enough time to put them all to use and destroy your master's forces like I would like to.
A Very Super Market
11-04-2009, 02:25
Perhaps your plans rested to heavily on Austria's own distraction, did it not? Ah well, at least we are sort of getting a religious war going on.
Double A
11-04-2009, 02:37
I do not care how pious you are, your religion is false!
Jihad called: Vienna
Centurion1
11-04-2009, 03:03
defensive or offensive jihad, big difference. And if it is offensive where is your heretic caliphs agreement.
Double A
11-04-2009, 03:13
Well it can't be freaking offensive if there's a giant army on my border, can it?
Also I would like to point out the fact that Germans have no sense of humor.
Centurion1
11-04-2009, 03:22
RL/ well as i have zero german blood in my veins......
Role Play/
Vat, Vat didz youz saz, germanz has much laughter inside, we laugh when we steal youz land. MWAHAHAHA
no you initiated conflict and want to gains land so it is a unlawful offensive jihad. You are both a heathen and a heathen who would burn in his own hell let alone mine.
We are more than willing to offer the Ottomans a favorable peace if they would be interested.
These are our demands:
https://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7421/lolzwerehad.jpg
Double A
11-04-2009, 03:30
Infidel, do not tell me what is unlawful in my culture. However I know that rebelling is "unlawful" and letting the rebels keep their country without so much as a fight is unjust. In my mighty Ottoman Empire, your head would already rest atop a spike!
RL/ well as i have zero german blood in my veins......
Role Play/
Vat, Vat didz youz saz, germanz has much laughter inside, we laugh when we steal youz land. MWAHAHAHA
no you initiated conflict and want to gains land so it is a unlawful offensive jihad. You are both a heathen and a heathen who would burn in his own hell let alone mine.
Why yes, I would love to give a third of my empire up in a war which I started.
Who the hell do you think I am, Carthage!?
Why yes, I would love to give a third of my empire up in a war which I started.
Who the hell do you think I am, Carthage!?
Hmm, I tried. Maybe when I've taken Istanbul you'll change your mind.
Double A
11-04-2009, 03:41
Ok, I will trade you all my European holdings for all your European holdings.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emot_vhappy.gif
Centurion1
11-04-2009, 03:53
saxony just wants to point out due to our small man complex that we are indeed larger than that map austria posted makes us look
Double A
11-04-2009, 03:55
:laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
11-04-2009, 06:44
saxony just wants to point out due to our small man complex that we are indeed larger than that map austria posted makes us look
You'll never be as large as Split.
There's a reason why he's called Split. It's painful.
Splitpersonality
11-05-2009, 05:30
You'll never be as large as Split.
There's a reason why he's called Split. It's painful.
:shrug:
I'm just...
astounded that you continue your support of me.
I have already promised you troops, money, a place on my Italian beaches.
What more could you be kissing up to me for?! :laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
11-05-2009, 05:37
:shrug:
I'm just...
astounded that you continue your support of me.
I have already promised you troops, money, a place on my Italian beaches.
What more could you be kissing up to me for?! :laugh4:
I have needs, Split. Come here baby.
A Very Super Market
11-05-2009, 05:41
Split, Switzerland might seem big and powerful right now, but their true lands are quite puny and worthless. I guarantee you, they are a trap.
Splitpersonality
11-05-2009, 05:44
"Once you fap to a trap..." etc etc
Move along. There's nothing to see here.
Splitpersonality
11-05-2009, 05:54
This game has produced the most useless and utterly tangent information I've ever seen.
I feel really bad for GH, having to read throug this garbage :P
So... who wants to ally with Poland? :D
We have about 100 hexes now!
Ibn-Khaldun
11-05-2009, 08:57
I feel really bad for GH, having to read throug this garbage :P
And now think what I, as a host of this game, must feel. :sweatdrop:
However,
Deadline is today. So, please send those orders before 21:00 GMT if you can.
Thank You. :bow:
Writeup should be posted on Saturday evening.
And this time I try to send reports right after I have posted writeup and not days later. :embarassed:
Centurion1
11-05-2009, 15:06
cant wait to find out......
I heard Saxony takes over Middle Earth and declares war on us all.
Cultured Drizzt fan
11-05-2009, 22:00
I heard Saxony takes over Middle Earth and declares war on us all.
oh noes! :pimp: That makes me so made I could walk away like a pimp. :whip:
AVSM joins Saxony, by turning on the Elven Kingdom of Austria, and starts breeding an Army of "Uruk", which are men which are half beast.
The Kingdom of Poland and their Cossack Horsemen join forces with the Kingdom of England to fight the Saxony and AVSM beastmen.
Elsewhere, in the Netherlands, men known as Dutchlings enjoy booze, cheese and windmills come across the Crown of Saxony. They must travel to Switzerland and throw the crown into a very tall Mountain in the Alps called Mount Doom.
Before they know it, Men from the East came, with Elephants and whatnot, from the Land of Ottomen, these come to pillage the Elfen Kingdom of Austria, before they sailed away to some where.
To be continued.
Ibn-Khaldun
11-06-2009, 00:05
Haven't still received orders from 3 people.
Cultured Drizzt fan
11-06-2009, 01:12
gah send in orders people! :furious3: I want the next round to start soon.
Centurion1
11-06-2009, 01:20
SAXONY DEMANDS ALL PEOPLE TURN IN THEIR ORDERS. OR WE WE WE WILL KICK YOU IN THE SHINS
Ibn can you tell us who it is so we can properly pester them.
scottishranger
11-06-2009, 01:38
Sent in orders.
Centurion1
11-06-2009, 02:11
so two more people to go.......
WHO ARE YOU
johnhughthom
11-06-2009, 02:17
I'm really sorry guys but you are going to have to send I~K your diplomacy, my PC is royally screwed up (USB ports going nuts and no ps/2 ports). I've done a lot of research and it seems I'm going to need a new motherboard. Sorry I-K, if i get it sorted I'll let you know but its not looking good. It had to happen right before Dragon Age came out.... If anybody has any ideas on how to fix my issue please drop me a pm, I can still check the forum on my PS3.
Double A
11-06-2009, 05:53
WHOOOO FIRST PERFORMANCE ROCKED!
AND SO DOES CAPS LOCK!
so two more people to go.......
WHO ARE YOU
I hope Spain forgot his and we continue without him. :beam:
Greyblades
11-06-2009, 08:55
Keep dreaming kid.
Ibn-Khaldun
11-06-2009, 10:12
I'm really sorry guys but you are going to have to send I~K your diplomacy, my PC is royally screwed up (USB ports going nuts and no ps/2 ports). I've done a lot of research and it seems I'm going to need a new motherboard. Sorry I-K, if i get it sorted I'll let you know but its not looking good. It had to happen right before Dragon Age came out.... If anybody has any ideas on how to fix my issue please drop me a pm, I can still check the forum on my PS3.
Don't worry. These things happen. :yes:
I just hope my orders go through. :beam: Would hate to lose out. :sad:
Centurion1
11-06-2009, 16:07
i did alot of diplomacy this turn... should i forward it all to you ibn.
Splitpersonality
11-06-2009, 19:49
I will try to make my orders right now, I apologize if they are late, I've had a lot of school related stuff to tend to, as Chaotix could attest to, and some RL stuff.
johnhughthom
11-06-2009, 19:59
I tried forwarding everybody's orders to I-K, but the PS3 browser won't let me. Everyone will need to resend theirs.
Ibn-Khaldun
11-07-2009, 00:14
i did alot of diplomacy this turn... should i forward it all to you ibn.
If they are important to you then yes.
However, if you think that they can wait then send them with your next turn orders. ~:)
Double A
11-07-2009, 01:02
I already sent them too you. Twice :tongue2:
Centurion1
11-07-2009, 05:13
forwarding to you ibn, yeah they are VERYYYYY important
Double A
11-07-2009, 06:25
Hey Csargo, if we ever reach a compromise lets nuke Europe. Sound fun?
Murder and pillage? :evil: That's always fun
Ibn-Khaldun
11-07-2009, 20:14
Since my kid accidentally burned his hand then I really don't have the time to finish this turn today. Perhaps, tomorrow.:shame:
A Very Super Market
11-07-2009, 20:22
Ouch, is it bad?
Ibn-Khaldun
11-07-2009, 21:10
Luckily, it's not as serious as we first thought.
A Very Super Market
11-07-2009, 21:29
Good. I hope he gets better soon. Burns terrified me when I was younger, since I didn't know what was causing the pain and kept biting the area...
Cultured Drizzt fan
11-07-2009, 22:02
Since my kid accidentally burned his hand then I really don't have the time to finish this turn today. Perhaps, tomorrow.:shame:
ouch. Hope he is going to be OK. :sweatdrop: Its fine, we will all wait. :yes:
Centurion1
11-07-2009, 22:40
rp: everyone is out to get saxony........ just drawing out the suspense *angry german muttering*
ooc: hope your kid feels better...... i hate burns very uncomfortable. and don't put butter on it, lol.......... (i have no idea why just that my boy scout book always explicitly warned against it.)
A Very Super Market
11-07-2009, 22:45
That's because fat insulates it and traps the heat inside. Better just to run water.
Double A
11-08-2009, 06:23
Ice works very well.
Fire is hot, make sure you tell any other kids you may have so they don't have to find out the hard way.
scottishranger
11-09-2009, 04:02
*Demands write-up
Ibn-Khaldun
11-09-2009, 17:23
Write-up will be posted this evening.
Report pm's will be sent tomorrow.
Sry for this delay but I have been occupied with other things for these past few days.
Also, there will be few changes in this game:
1. Trade agreement gives Trade bonus(25% from the fixed income of that hex) if two countries share border.
2. But there can only be 2 trade partners who receive current trade bonus(25% from partners trade income).
3. If you sign trading treaty(to get 25% from their trade income) then it is mutual.
4. If player don't send his orders then his kingdoms finances are frozen. Treasury remains the same as it was in the end of last turn. (I hope this makes it easier for me to calculate your income.)
And just to tease you.. couple of Events are triggered during this last turn.
I didn't expect them to be triggered so soon and during the same turn but I should have been prepared when all of you joined this game! :laugh4:
Looks like the Netherlands gets nerfed while others prosper. :cry:
It's World War 0.5 new and improved!
Cultured Drizzt fan
11-09-2009, 23:04
Write-up will be posted this evening.
Report pm's will be sent tomorrow.
Sry for this delay but I have been occupied with other things for these past few days.
Also, there will be few changes in this game:
1. Trade agreement gives Trade bonus(25% from the fixed income of that hex) if two countries share border.
2. But there can only be 2 trade partners who receive current trade bonus(25% from partners trade income).
3. If you sign trading treaty(to get 25% from their trade income) then it is mutual.
4. If player don't send his orders then his kingdoms finances are frozen. Treasury remains the same as it was in the end of last turn. (I hope this makes it easier for me to calculate your income.)
And just to tease you.. couple of Events are triggered during this last turn.
I didn't expect them to be triggered so soon and during the same turn but I should have been prepared when all of you joined this game! :laugh4:
so let me see if I have this right.
I could say me trade is active with poland and saxony, and I get 25% of their income right?
Well, no one will be wanting trade with me (in that style), thats for sure.
Double A
11-09-2009, 23:23
Csargo, if only you had agreed to either of my options that didn't result in me loosing hexes...
Oh well, may the best (Otto)man win!
Csargo, if only you had agreed to either of my options that didn't result in me loosing hexes...
Oh well, may the best (Otto)man win!
:laugh4: I have OVER 9000 MONIEZ LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I'M THE OTTOMANS I R TEH AWESOMAGEZ is hardly an offer.
Only OVER 9000?!?!
Try OVER 90000!!!
Cultured Drizzt fan
11-10-2009, 01:03
WHAT NINE THOUSAND????!!!!!!!! http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/aargh4.gif
Ahem. Done now.
I am waiting on the edge of my seat for what happened this round. :juggle2:
In Dragonball Kai, it is "What 8000?!"
Goku got nerfed.
Splitpersonality
11-10-2009, 01:05
In Dragonball Kai, it is "What 8000?!"
Goku got nerfed.
Because of translations from Japanese and the pronunciation, syllables and stuff.
Amirite?
You guys go post your BSS where it belongs! We don't need no stinkin' anime in here!
:clown:
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2009, 02:26
I detect the subtle whiff of SPAM in here. Thread closed. :closed:
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/6081baa81887447e.jpg
-ATPG
I believe I got in trouble some other time for jokingly doing this, so I reiterate, this is a joke. I am not a moderator. :clown:....Gosh this just kills the joke. :wall:
Centurion1
11-10-2009, 02:34
the above scared the living crap out of me..........
ohhhhh i cant wait.
In Dragonball Kai, it is "What 8000?!"
Goku got nerfed.
Ahhh :laugh4:
Only OVER 9000?!?!
Try OVER 90000!!!
:oops: Though my description is pretty accurate of his offer.:laugh4:
Centurion1
11-10-2009, 03:33
psh ill give you 9000 gold to continue the war.
A Very Super Market
11-10-2009, 03:40
You guys are unbelievable.... ;)
Centurion1
11-10-2009, 03:46
unbelievably....... good looking
there you go i fixed it.
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7434/screenshot2009110700094.jpg
Edit: You know I love you really. I did it originally as a compliment to you.
Splitpersonality
11-10-2009, 03:51
This is the antithesis to the BSS thread.
Sigurd just congratulated us for being so quiet in there, it must be a real pain to moderate this muck however :P
Centurion1
11-10-2009, 04:00
personally i think bss has heated up a tad.
:daisy: it beskar. you Englishmen may think you own us yanks but we ARE INDEPENDENT PEOPLE. But yes i will accept that petting, preferably behind my ears.
well at least im a buff dog.
Yeah im going to take it as a monument to my greatness and the fact i have made a lasting impression on someone, albeit it as being a big angry ADD dog.
Centurion1
11-10-2009, 16:58
thought the write up was coming last night?
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