The Thirty Years War [Concluded]

[Beskar]

dued i think its more like your online time is sort of patchy sometimes.

:yes: and keep missing orders in games, etc. :p

[Greyblades]

Your very welcome CDF I just wish I was as good a host as Ibn. But as you said, back on topic.

[Centurion1]

sorry just one more thing.

Hey CDF! that south african campaign was with my help! i supplied him with ak-47's to pretend they were russian funded rebels.... mwahahaha!

i also had a few other sneaky deals, i made the czechs declare war as well. HAHA

good times good times. i remember that was my first game here and i made a few staunch allies within it........ who i now cling to, lol.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Your very welcome CDF I just wish I was as good a host as Ibn. But as you said, back on topic.

Thank You. :bow:

[Centurion1]

so what exactly is avsm doing for you?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

He helps me to calculate your income.

[Centurion1]

ohhhhhh.........

*surreptitiously slips a few kroner under the table*.

so were you using like excel sheets with like formulas inputted or something. it would initially be alot of work but after you have it set up it would just be simply entering a few more numbers every turn.

[A Very Super Market]

And I feel as if I am slowing him down by a lot. See, I'm not using the spreadsheet. Or even a calculator. Slide rules are much more elegant.

[Splitpersonality]

And I feel as if I am slowing him down by a lot. See, I'm not using the spreadsheet. Or even a calculator. Slide rules are much more elegant.

If you're serious about this, you are my hero.

[Centurion1]

dude i know we china men have to show up these white eyes, but seriously?

[Askthepizzaguy]

You don't have to show up White_Eyes:D

:quiet:

[Centurion1]

^ohh NICEEEEEEEE *cyber five*

[Splitpersonality]

https://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv115/El_Danny91/high5.jpg

I love spam D:

[Double A]

Update or will I have to suffer through the spam for another day?

Also, Assassin's Creed 2 rocks, don't expect me to be on much till I finish it and the five other games I got.

[Centurion1]

^ yeah im gettin g it tmmrw but i plan on taking my time and savoring it

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I apologize but the write up will be posted tomorrow.

For some reason I missed miotas' PM with orders and thus I had to make some changes. :shame:

[Centurion1]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i had seen you posted and i was so excited.......

take your time!

and curse you Miotas! Curse you Dirty Papists!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

You should curse me actually because I had read his pm but I didn't copy his orders back then..

Btw, he was the first one who sent his orders..

[Beskar]

I wonder who is fighting in the Major Battle. Is it France versus Spain? France versus the Swiss? Austria versus Ottomens?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I can say that there were actually 3 separate battles with decent units but since all of them were fought very close to each other then I consider it as one battle. Also, they were fought during orders 1-3(January to March).

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

which means I am in the clear, as my invasion started order 4 :beam: Excellent. :laugh4::laugh4:

[Subotan]

which means I am in the clear, as my invasion started order 4 :beam: Excellent. :laugh4::laugh4:

How could you? You have nothing to gain...

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

How could you? You have nothing to gain...

I have everything to gain, and far more to lose if I sit back. You really don't get how doomed you are...... :no: Better to be the victor than neutral. I stand to gain much by acting, and you frankly gave me no offer, while the Swiss are giving me quite an acceptable one.

You should have tried to get allies in this war France, now you are basically all alone. :juggle2: You brought your doom down on yourself.

[Greyblades]

Wow, I was expecting everyone to gang up on me, I guess being kind to switzerland paid off.

[Beskar]

Wow, I was expecting everyone to gang up on me, I guess being kind to switzerland paid off.

Depends if you forgot your orders or not. :smash:

[Greyblades]

I did, I did. Geeze.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wow, I was expecting everyone to gang up on me, I guess being kind to switzerland paid off.

We were going to gang up on you, but France decided that he desperately wanted to die. Now, I am envisioning the exact same peaceful western europe, except with Spain instead of France as my ally to the west of me.

And yes, being nice to Switzerland is what made that happen. :bounce:

[Subotan]

I love how everyone is saying that I was a bad diplomat, but in fact, it's the opposite. I was, admittedly, going in for brinkmanship. I do not deny that. However, it was on the basis that everyone else would react rationally in order to counter rising powers. People did not act rationally, as everyone has sided with the world's biggest power to help it take down it's strongest opponent.

Err, what? That is logical how? Spain has already proved it's untrustworthiness, and taking out it's biggest obstacle isn't good for anyone. It's only a matter of time before, as you say, "my doom upon myself" results in doom spreading across Europe. I have at all times made calculating decisions, expecting other states to behave rationally. Instead, I have seen Switzerland embark on a war of conquest and then trade away half of those lands in return for some as of yet unspecified return (Probably Mercs), Saxony, for some totally bizarre and non-RP reason attempt want to start a war over land it shouldn't have owned due to a fault in the game mechanic and that I was merely trying to restore to it's proper owner, not for any sort of personal gain.

I at least expected the Netherlands and England to stay neutral; by attacking me, you're hastening your own doom. Although France is tolerant towards Protestants (Edict of Nantes FTW), Spain most certainly is not, and you'll find scores of Armadas in the the Channel, thanks to your own rash actions.

I'm not trying to stop you from declaring war; it's too late for that. And I've probably lost the game, with the nation of France divided up between Switzerland, Spain, Netherlands, and England in what promises to be the most unrealistic and improbable conquest of a nation I've ever seen in any game. And Why? Because you wanted land. And because you want it, you take it. Which just happens to be the total opposite of how international diplomacy worked in the 17th Century, with the formation of the Westphalian System of International Relations affirming the sovereignty of the state and nation.

So that's it then; my prophecy is written here. It will be fulfilled, because the motives and lack of understanding which have led to France's demise will lead to yours as well.

[Greyblades]

Its logical because people realy hate it when you try to pick on the little guy, attacking little switzerland after it has finally gathered the courage to take a step out of it's mountains makes you look like more of an expansionistic evil empire than I do.

[Centurion1]

hey i haven't declared war on you.

all of my land grabs have been through diplomacy and fair rights.

RP, psh if i was role playing i wouldn't be expanding at all. id try to survive not win as we are supposed to. what you did was very anti- rp as well.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Its logical because people realy hate it when you try to pick on the little guy, attacking little switzerland after it has finally gotten the guts to take a step out of the mountains makes you look like more of an expansionistic evil empire than I do.

So you are admitting you are an expansionist evil empire? :inquisitive: :laugh4::laugh4:




To France you are missing the point. Brinkmanship is all well and good, but only when you have the muscle to back it up :inquisitive: which You don't have even in the slightest. You alienated myself and most of the northern alliance through your treatment of Saxony, who like it or not owns most of south Germany along with the Netherlands. Bohemies former claims matters little.

I have only reacted in this game, never acted on my own. I do not JUST want land, but when I see a situation where by not acting I am going to lose both influence and power then I am going to do something about it. You tipped my hand by getting the whole world to declare war on you. :no: I have not hastened my doom in the slightest, because I will not be making the same mistake you did, angering a bunch of other nations so badly they all declare war on you, and then afterwards not even trying to find any allies to help you in the war.

The problem is you are seeing this as history trying to repeat itself, something that after the first round I threw away as a logical way to play the game. When you have the swiss conquering a ton of land in one round then you can not expect to be successful by playing as France historically would. Trying to bring historical claims into the game was foolish and lost you Saxony as a possible ally.


You took an ally, the Swiss, who had bought the Spanish area in France and was willing to hand it over as a show of good faith, and you invaded them.

This has already shown itself to not be the thirty year war, and I am not going to get bogged down and lose simply because of that. :sweatdrop: :shrug: This game can not at all show the intricacies of European politics at the time, I mean minor nations are there to take with no repercussions! Because of that you can not expect real world politics to win the day here.



Also, I was quite afraid YOU would become the rising power. Savoy gave its lands to you and then you thought to attack switzerland? gah! Am I supposed to let you gain such large amounts of land when you are so near by? Spain may be tough, but we are all pretty much united in saying if he does anything funny then we will curb stomp him into last century. He is on thin ice and he knows it. THat is why he is allowed such freedom.


I have done my best to RP this game, but this game has gone in a very different direction, and where I had originally thought to stay out of war and play a diplomat, I can see that will end in my own destruction. You forced my hand, :no: just to reiterate. I am reacting to a opportunity that I have to seize. Hey, If you want to negotiate we could come to a deal, but you are in some dire straits, I have a LOT of leverage.


Good luck though, I will be impressed if you can come out of this alive.

You have forgotten the Northern Alliance France, which I am pretty sure would help me and the Netherlands kick Spain to the Curb.


But that is about all I have to say. :shame:


(BTW, No Offense Spain, I am pretty sure you already know this anyway. Also No Offense to Ibn, this game is already insanely complicated. No game could EVER come close to showing European Politics as it was back then, by my eyes you have done a Darn good Job. )

[Centurion1]

^ yeah what he said.

and maybe this could all have been avoided if you hadn't antagonized me over s. germany

[Askthepizzaguy]

As an OOC matter, it has been a pleasure hurling playful diplomatic barbs back and forth with you, Subotan. That, more than the actual war, has been interesting to me, and what I derive the most joy from in these games. I hope you don't feel unwelcome or picked on in any sort of out-of-character way.

[Centurion1]

yes it is really the best part of these games. that and getting to plot out my moves on a map.

i really like writing up diplomatic deals as everyone who has been involved with me has seen

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

As do I. Hopefully after this war is over we can get back to those simpler times. :laugh4: I want more back room deals and wars simply for money and not for territory. We need to make this game last and savor every moment of it. :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I hope you at least don't mention how MUCH I paid you...

:clown:

[Centurion1]

fine ill stop gobbling up land like its mad eout of cookie dough.......for now

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I want to hear the Rules behind Making Protectorates are. :beam: got a idea I want to see. :laugh4::laugh4:

[Greyblades]

No offence taken CDF.
Well I dont know about you guys but I think it is time to be thinking about sorting out our demands should france decide to surrender. I'm thinking that his army should be castrated, say he's only allowed one army of five units and cannot recruit mecenaries. These will be voided if he's attacked by someone else of course but I think that is a good way to make sure he doesnt go on a rampage again. Oh and we are going to have to make sure that all the land he didnt have before the war goes to Switzerland Savoy becomes a seperate state again and, say, 3 hexes from each region is surrendered to the neigbouring side as compensation for making us waste our men's lives on him and to make sure he cant use the regions bonus' against us.

[Centurion1]

i think its all up to the player cdf. one of the best parts of this game. and i think i know what you are planning......... heehee

[Askthepizzaguy]

No offence taken CDF.
Well I dont know about you guys but I think it is time to be thinking about sorting out our demands should france decide to surrender. I'm thinking that his army should be castrated, say he's only allowed one army of five units and cannot recruit mecenaries. These will be voided if he's attacked by someone else of course but I think that is a good way to make sure he doesnt go on a rampage again. Oh and we are going to have to make sure that all the land he didnt have before the war goes to Switzerland Savoy becomes a seperate state again and, say, 3 hexes from each region is surrendered to the neigbouring side as compensation for making us waste our men's lives on him and to make sure he cant use the regions bonus' against us.

I am afraid I am much, much more heavily invested in this war, perhaps more than anyone else. I have debts to pay and such. I cannot stand for France to exist as a state unless I am fully compensated for my war costs, which are beyond extensive.

I also will not declare peace without the southeast third of France under Swiss protection. That's the price of conflict... a buffer zone. And not a neutral one either.

[Centurion1]

everything good about that blades except the savoy thing. we need a new player for that. i say we either give it to swiss or we need a new player.

this plan sounds eerily like the treaty of versailles. *cough ww2 is coming cough*

i know im not in the war but at the end plenty of saxon soldiers will have died......

[Greyblades]

I dont know what you mean.


No seriously I have no idea what you think I am planning, I think just castrating his army and splittiing his land is a pretty good plan as it is.

[Double A]

yes it is really the best part of these games. that and getting to plot out my moves on a map.

i really like writing up diplomatic deals as everyone who has been involved with me has seen

Enlighten me.


No offence taken CDF.
Well I dont know about you guys but I think it is time to be thinking about sorting out our demands should france decide to surrender. I'm thinking that his army should be castrated, say he's only allowed one army of five units and cannot recruit mecenaries. These will be voided if he's attacked by someone else of course but I think that is a good way to make sure he doesnt go on a rampage again. Oh and we are going to have to make sure that all the land he didnt have before the war goes to Switzerland Savoy becomes a seperate state again and, say, 3 hexes from each region is surrendered to the neigbouring side as compensation for making us waste our men's lives on him and to make sure he cant use the regions bonus' against us.

I personally think you guys should smash his head into oblivion, but then that wouldn't leave an opportunity for him to retaliate, and you better believe that I'll be looking forward to that!

[Centurion1]

greyblades that was directed a cdf's post not at you.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I dont know what you mean.


No seriously I have no idea what you think I am planning, I think just castrating his army and splittiing his land is a pretty good plan as it is.

Maybe we should work it out by PM and see what France thinks about not dieing. He may fight to the death after all, although I would prefer to not have to destroy him. I think Me, You, Atpg, and Beskar should start talking about what we are going to do. I gave the Swiss some money, but I don't need that back. We can work out compensations among ourselves.


but, We might want to see if France even wants to talk terms.

[Centurion1]

Enlighten me.

you will have to want to do some sort of diplomacy with me than as all of my agreements are confidential.

[Double A]

You could always replace their names with X. I'd really just like an example. You've piqued my intereset.

[Greyblades]

Maybe we should work it out by PM and see what France thinks about not dieing. He may fight to the death after all, although I would prefer to not have to destroy him. I think Me, You, Atpg, and Beskar should start talking about what we are going to do. I gave the Swiss some money, but I don't need that back. We can work out compensations among ourselves.


but, We might want to see if France even wants to talk terms.

I gave the swiss 10 grand I sure as heck want that back.

[Splitpersonality]

I would be happy to assist the Swiss in paying back their debts if they have gone the way of a more peaceful solution. At least in part, not in whole :bow:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I gave the swiss 10 grand I sure as heck want that back.

bah, Over the course of this game I have given out about 20,000 (or so.... Not sure exactly) in gifts and loans. Name your country I have probably given them money. And you know what, I have not asked for a single cent back! :furious3:

10 grand, nice. I only gave him 3 grand. :juggle2: but this is irrelevant

Should I open diplomatic channels via PM to talk about what we all need from this war? Atpg has made his needs clear. but might as well talk about it. I will send the PM out. (BTW I plan on talking IC, I have not been able to act like James enough. More fun this way :beam:)

[Splitpersonality]

Name your country I have probably given them money.

Poland :rolleyes:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Poland :rolleyes:

......... Nobody likes a show off............


:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: nah good point, No, Poland has not needed any of my help..... I am not so sure about Lithuania though, what with the huge civil war going on :beam: :laugh4::laugh4:

[Double A]

How come I didn't get any money from you? :furious3:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

How come I didn't get any money from you? :furious3:

Because you have twice my hexes. :inquisitive: :laugh4::laugh4: You don't need any help Heathen.


BTW Ibn, how do you feel about us writing stories about are nations? I realize most people won't do it, but as a throne Roomer at heart I feel like fleshing my people and king out. :yes: Albeit with my usually weak and grammar-less fare :sweatdrop: .

[Askthepizzaguy]

I gave the swiss 10 grand I sure as heck want that back.

Indeed. As you guys can see, I'm up to my eyeballs in debt. France dug a big hole, and unfortunately filling it will be expensive. Not much I can do about that, my life was kinda on the line a couple rounds ago, and now I have a big fat army to feed and loans to repay.


I would be happy to assist the Swiss in paying back their debts if they have gone the way of a more peaceful solution. At least in part, not in whole :bow:

Your assistance will be most appreciated if the French can be persuaded to leave us in peace and at a loss of territory, which I am sure will happen just as soon as pigs write poetry.

Seriously, it will take a lot of passing the pot around to pay for the mess France made. But I'm reasonable enough to say peace is possible.

[Double A]

Because you have twice my hexes. :inquisitive: :laugh4::laugh4: You don't need any help Heathen.


BTW Ibn, how do you feel about us writing stories about are nations? I realize most people won't do it, but as a throne Roomer at heart I feel like fleshing my people and king out. :yes:

Who said I needed it? :clown:

[Csargo]

You guys are so silly. I'm down here protecting the world from tyranny, while everyone else is goofing off with France. :angry:

[Greyblades]

Hey ATPG, I didnt mean I wanted it back from you, no, I intend to collect my payment straight from France's coffers or in her land if she is bankrupt by the time this is over.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Either way, I intend to see to it that you don't get ripped off.

IC- Unlike some, I don't betray my allies.

[scottishranger]

Swedens just chillin up north

[Greyblades]

Oh, Right, technically we're still at war. Um seeing as France is going under would you be willing to just call it a truce?

[Double A]

You guys are so silly. I'm down here protecting the world from tyranny, while everyone else is goofing off with France. :angry:

Oh come on I'm not that bad of a guy. I'm practically God once you see everything my way. :yes:

[scottishranger]

Oh, Right, technically we're still at war. Um seeing as France is going under would you be willing to just call it a truce?

surreeeee.

[Greyblades]

Sure as in I will call a truce, or sure as in I'm sarcastic?

[Double A]

Or sure as in surety?

[Beefy187]

You guys are so silly. I'm down here protecting the world from tyranny, while everyone else is goofing off with France. :angry:

Goofing off France? That sounds fun.. Can Russia join? :beam:

[Subotan]

all of my land grabs have been through diplomacy and fair rights.

RP, psh if i was role playing i wouldn't be expanding at all. id try to survive not win as we are supposed to. what you did was very anti- rp as well.
I was trying to correct a faulty game mechanic, via RPing.

Its logical because people realy hate it when you try to pick on the little guy, attacking little switzerland after it has finally gathered the courage to take a step out of it's mountains makes you look like more of an expansionistic evil empire than I do.
Hey, I said it was fine for it to expand of th mountains, but to take Framche-Comte and Italy? Too far man, too far.

As an OOC matter, it has been a pleasure hurling playful diplomatic barbs back and forth with you, Subotan. That, more than the actual war, has been interesting to me, and what I derive the most joy from in these games. I hope you don't feel unwelcome or picked on in any sort of out-of-character way.
Oh yeah, totally. :beam:

I am afraid I am much, much more heavily invested in this war, perhaps more than anyone else. I have debts to pay and such. I cannot stand for France to exist as a state unless I am fully compensated for my war costs, which are beyond extensive.

I also will not declare peace without the southeast third of France under Swiss protection. That's the price of conflict... a buffer zone. And not a neutral one either.
Essentially, it's just a matter of time before Switzerland's banks collapse and the war is won; by me.

everything good about that blades except the savoy thing.
Surrendering Savoy is stotally unacceptable. I inherited that land fair and square. However, Spain does have a claim to Framche Comte, so I may be willing to part with some of that, as well as relinquish my claim to the Kingdom of Italy..


this plan sounds eerily like the treaty of versailles. *cough ww2 is coming cough*

i know im not in the war but at the end plenty of saxon soldiers will have died......
:crowngrin:

No seriously I have no idea what you think I am planning, I think just castrating his army and splittiing his land is a pretty good plan as it is.
Greyblades is only saying this because I sent him a PM warning him that iof he attacked Vienna, he'd have to face an Austro-Franco Alliance.

EDIT: Btw Sweden, I'm totally cool with you making peace with France, and even Switzerland. However, I request that you come to my aid against England, and that you at least harass their shipping to prevent them from crossing the channel. I can pledge all of the North Sea Islands to you, should we fight together.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Essentially, it's just a matter of time before Switzerland's banks collapse and the war is won; by me.

Not really. Your fortress should be busted down this turn, and then you will experience the full power of the dark side.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

EDIT: Btw Sweden, I'm totally cool with you making peace with France, and even Switzerland. However, I request that you come to my aid against England, and that you at least harass their shipping to prevent them from crossing the channel. I can pledge all of the North Sea Islands to you, should we fight together.

I hope Sweden does realize that if he chooses to do so I will feel obliged to call to the northern alliance for aid. Plus it is a bit late to stop me from crossing, I already have. If Sweden joins the war I will just have to bring a WHOLE world of hurt down on them. That I promise you :wink:


If you honestly think you can win this war then I am not sure what war you are watching :shrug:
and come on he was going to GIVE you Framche-Comte and you just declared war and invaded for no good reason.


*sigh* I was going to try and find some way to keep you alive after this war, but that seems foolish to me now.

[Beskar]

I at least expected the Netherlands and England to stay neutral;

Have I declared war on you or actually threatened you in anyway (as of yet) ?

There is only one power I have, and it is one of your attackers.

Oh wait, I did, after you commented "no offense Netherlands, but I am going to invade you" :whip:

So yeah, who is to blame for that remark? It is not the Netherlands.

[Greyblades]

Greyblades is only saying this because I sent him a PM warning him that iof he attacked Vienna, he'd have to face an Austro-Franco Alliance.
What austria? I doubt that he wants to add Spain to his growing list of enemies.

[Csargo]

What austria? I doubt that he wants to add Spain to his growing list of enemies.

Growing list? I have no diplomatic relations with France, nor do I plan to have any in the future.

[Greyblades]

Oh wait I had forgotten bohemia had dropped out, Ok, "add spain to his shrinking list of enemies."

[Subotan]

It was a private PM to the Turk. I didn't want to make my intentions known to the rest of Europe, for various reasons.

EDIT: Franco-Austrian Alliance was the wrong word. French intervention, to help the Austrians would have been a better word.

[Greyblades]

Why would I attack Austria? I'm allready on thin ice with most of the other countries as it is, I'm not going to attack a neutral country for no reason, thats your shtick not mine.

[Centurion1]

saxony is just chilling at the moment, rebuilding our coffers.

i may have some minor diplomacy for you heathen so you can see my pm's lol

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why would I attack Austria? I'm allready on thin ice with most of the other countries as it is, I'm not going to attack a neutral country for no reason, thats your shtick not mine.

The swiss diplomat begins laughing so hard he falls out of his chair.

[Beskar]

Hey Ibn, any updates with the map or pm's?

[Double A]

Growing list? I have no diplomatic relations with France, nor do I plan to have any in the future.

There is one thing we can agree on.


It was a private PM to the Turk. I didn't want to make my intentions known to the rest of Europe, for various reasons.

EDIT: Franco-Austrian Alliance was the wrong word. French intervention, to help the Austrians would have been a better word.

Your threats are hollow and smell of old cheese.

[Subotan]

Why would I attack Austria? I'm allready on thin ice with most of the other countries as it is, I'm not going to attack a neutral country for no reason, thats your shtick not mine.
Huh? I didn't say that. I said if the Turks took Vienna, then France would intervene to help the Austrians.

Your threats are hollow and smell of old cheese.

Bah, Sick Man of Europe.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

-Year 1620-
from January to June
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/30yw/92.jpg

It's been said that Emperor Friedrich II cried when he heard the news from east. General Tilly, who had besieged Ottoman fort in Balkan, was murdered just one day before the attack against the fort in Balkan. His men, now without their general, decided to go on with the attack but then things went completely wrong. Austrian army lost almost one third of it's soldiers before even reaching the walls of the fort. After that a bloody battle on the breaches started. Although couple regiments managed to enter the fort they were routed soon after that. Both sides suffered heavy casualties.

French fought in the same time a smaller battle against Spanish mercenary force in Milan. With his reinforcements, general de Treville, completely annihilated his enemy while suffering only minor casualties. However, this victory was unnoticed by majority of people because England had declared war on France. Fighting against three enemies proved to be too much for France as the time showed in the following months.

February was as bloody as the previous month. Austrian army under general von Mercy tried to balance things in east by attacking Ottoman fort in Hungary. Although they managed to take down part of the wall they still were defeated and had to retreat.

Louis XIII, just like Ferdinand II, received bad news from the front. Large Swiss army had moved south to engage de Treville and his army. Royal army did what they could but enemy just overwhelmed them and in the end they suffered the fate of Spanish mercenaries. General de Treville lost his life in this battle which meant that another good leader had died.

In March at least Emperor Ferdinand II got good news. Army of the Catholic League under Johan von Aldringen finally took Ottoman fort in Hungary. "The Battle for Hngary" was won by the Austrians. However, this did not changed much because they were surrounded by Ottoman forts in Wallachia and Balkan. Most importantly, the people in Vienna had lost their optimism. Quick war against the Turks, as the people had hoped, had become a distant memory.

In Paris, Louis XIII got another batch of bad news. English Royal Army under William McCoy had landed it's forces in Normandy. After defeating a small French force they quickly occupied the province and moved west, towards French port in Brest.

The following months only saw some minor engagements. McCoy took Brest and Spanish army in Southern Netherlands bombarded Chateau Subotan from April to June. Most likely this French fort will fall sometime in the second half of the year. Another French fort, near Switzerland, was besieged by Swiss troops who became more and more discontent as the war went on.

However, everything could change during the next six moths..
New wars could start and rebellions may arise...

The map:
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/30yw/30YW_kingdoms_turn6.jpg

PS. Your "Last turn report" pm's will be sent tomorrow since I'm just too tired at the moment. But, to keep you on the hook, some of you will have surprise in there :tongue:

[Greyblades]

Hmm, I wonder where France's army went.

[Double A]

Wow didn't know Csargo would attack so soon.

Too bad about your general :devilish:

[Askthepizzaguy]

*evil cackling*

[Beskar]

Did England declare war on France? Damn, I missed that.

Also, what unit of mine is at Hex 1?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Yes, England declared war on France.

There are your brave Militiamen.. :clown:

[Beskar]

I thought I disbanded all my Militia... weird, nevermind.

However, it looks like you knew what I wanted with those ships. Thank you for that. :thumbsup:

[Csargo]

Wow didn't know Csargo would attack so soon.

Too bad about your general :devilish:

That was unexpected, but nothing that will slow me down.

Also, the Polish army on my border is unsettling. Please explain why it has been stationed there.

[Double A]

I dunno... your siege artillery moves awfully slow...

[Csargo]

I dunno... your siege artillery moves awfully slow...

Yep.:juggle2:

[Double A]

Hey France. You smell.

Bad.

[Beskar]

Wow, Saxony is going to be bigger than Austria very soon.

[You know... - GH]

[Centurion1]

Wow, Saxony is going to be bigger than Austria very soon.

*more evil cackling*


i warned everyone i would end up being a threat.....

[Ibn-Khaldun]

i warned everyone i would end up being a threat.....

*reading a statement like that and knowing what decisions Saxony have to make in the near future make me chuckle....*

[Beskar]

*reading a statement like that and knowing what decisions Saxony have to make in the near future make me chuckle....*

ohhh Civil War?

[Centurion1]

*reading a statement like that and knowing what decisions Saxony have to make in the near future make me chuckle....*

awwww crap.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Saxony is a threat?

10-nation dogpile on Saxony!!!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I will send out the pm's but I will send the Economy part tomorrow. Let's just say.. technical difficulties...:juggle2:

Edit: Only half of them have been sent. Saxony, Switzerland, Sweden, Spain, Portugal, Poland and Transylvania will get them tomorrow.

I would've done it sooner but RL took all the spare time I had:shame:

[Beskar]

Ouch, poor Saxony. Luckily it isn't as major compared to me, since I don't own tons of land like he does.

Here is what it is:
"Catholics in Germany"
Catholic nobles are upset. They demand their lands to be given back to them or to the Emperor of HRE.
Your options:
Quote:
1. Refuse to listen them (-1 PO in your Catholic hexes in Germany)
2. Take it as a sign of hostility(A war shall be declared on Austria)
3. Give Catholic lands back to their previous owners(All Catholic hexes will become white again)
4. Give those lands to Emperor Ferdinand II(All Catholic hexes will be given to Austrian)

[Beefy187]

Time to build a army.... for patrol :beam:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

“Your sure about this?” James had a deep grimace on his face, his hands drumming on the table in front of him.

There were 3 men in front of him, two sitting one standing, but James question was no doubt directed at the man on the far left of the office, Lionel Cranfield. Lionel shrugged “Sire I must admit I am no expert on such matters. But in my opinion yes, the war can be sustained for as long as necessary. Taxes from parliament have gone a long way towards keeping our coffers full. Albeit perhaps if your court did not go through so much…..” James grimace turns into a growl and Lionel quickly shut his mouth.

James looked to the standing man now, William McCoy, His most experienced field officer (although even that experience was limited). “And of course are you sure this is the only way? Is this the only way to maintain our might?”

William tersely nodded “Indeed milord, the strategic necessity of this war is crucial. As I have said, we have three necessary goals that have to be accomplished if we wish to maintain our might overseas. I am more than confident we can achieve this goal while assisting our allies in the war effort. We can not get hung up over our former deals with France. They have brought the coalition down on themselves. The benefits we stand to gain from this war are very lucrative, and the risks are limited. Your Royal army is more than a match for the rabble we will be facing. Of course, I can only speak for the land portion of the campaign. However, I do not expect to face any significant naval threat from France. One of our primary objectives is denying the French of their Shipyard in Brest as soon as possible. After that our navy should be able to handle anything they can put together. I have talked with John” He points to the man on his left, John Kenneth, Head of the Royal Navy “At Length about it.”

John Nods, “indeed, both I am William believe we can meet only success in France. However Milord, we would not move forward without your approval.”
James steeples his hands, deep in thought “You two have my approval. I will send the Declaration of War as soon as possible. God Help us all, England is going to war.”

John and William planned the campaign Meticulously. And then, after the last corps of units had been trained and readied the Transport fleet picked up the Royal Army at Newport, where they had been drilling for the past 2 months. The Invasion was planned to land in Normandy, and the troops landed 30 miles from Cherbourg, William setting the troops into marching order. They were ten miles from the city when they got their first test of combat. They saw the mercenaries streaming down the road a mile away, and William called the army to battle positions. The Musketeers lined up side by side, with Pikeman in rank behind them. The mercenaries were placed out in the wings of the army, placed out of Williams’s contempt for them. They could not be trusted to hold the line. In all the English army outnumbered the 1,000 French Mercenaries by such a large margin that one could only imagine what was going through the French commander’s mind. That is, if there was a French commander. The Mercenaries were obviously undisciplined, and William was sure his new battle tactics would no doubt win the day…. Although if they were necessary was another question altogether.


“Alright men, lets show these idiots how we do things across the channel.” He roared above the sounds of battle, and signaled for the musketeers to load their muskets and get ready for battle.
Showing as much poise as their aristocratic brothers had in the Hundred year war the French charged in with abandon, moving closer and closer to the musket line.
“Well, I was expecting a better show than this…. Order the musketeers to open fire” William said to the trumpeter to his right. He nodded and blew three ascending notes, and the musketeers opened fire with their first volley. They were at the edge of the muskets range, but a few shots hit home, sending men falling to the ground clutching their wounds. The musketeers reloaded as quickly as they could, getting in two more volleys with their muskets. Already hundreds of French littered the field, and it was clear to everyone that the remains fought more out of fear then confidence. The Musketeers opened a series of channels in their ranks, and through it streamed the English Pikemen, who marched forward to meet the remaining French in melee. It was over very quickly…. The French were sent routing In short order, and William was not shocked to find casualties numbering only about 6 on his side.


Morale was high in the English camp after that victory, as many believed that they had faced the French’s best and succeeded. The Leadership Corp was… Optimistic to say the least. They made good speed towards Brest, occupying most of the area before reaching the major port city. The Garrison was another regiment of Mercenaries. They obviously had similar military instructors, as they charged as well into the hail of bullets. The city was secured and William had the army set up a more permanent camp to the east. William was still cautious. They had yet to meet any real opposition. The French would not let them frolic up and down their west coast with impunity…. This war had only just begun.

[Greyblades]

That seems abit much for roleplaying.
So france, Are you going to surrender now with honour. or are you going to force us to raise your country to the ground?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

That seems abit much for roleplaying.
So france, Are you going to surrender now with honour. or are you going to force us to raise your country to the ground?

meh, I had a free hour. :juggle2: Nothing more constructive to use it towards. :shrug:


Plus I thought it was pretty decent. :inquisitive: Its all based on what actually happened in my turn, with bit of my own little flair. But major details are correct.

sorry for wanting everyone to know what is going on in my part of the war :shrug: Not much going on in the thread.

[miotas]

That seems abit much for roleplaying.
So france, Are you going to surrender now with honour. or are you going to force us to raise your country to the ground?

I think you mean "raze" ~D Unless you are implying that the French are lower than dirt. :tongue:

/nitpicking

[Greyblades]

Wow someone got it.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Just to make it official we go from now on with 1 turn per week.
On Monday I post the writeup, Wednesday I send Reports and Friday is the deadline for orders.
This leaves you five days to send me your orders and make your diplomatic deals.
I should have done it before but I still hoped that I could go with 2 turns per week which would be crazy since the game goes harder as we progress..

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Just to make it official we go from now on with 1 turn per week.
On Monday I post the writeup, Wednesday I sent Reports and Friday is the deadline for orders.
This leaves you five days to send me your orders and make your diplomatic deals.
I should have done it before but I still hoped that I could go with 2 turns per week which would be crazy since the game goes harder as we progress..

cool. But does that mean that this turn ends next friday?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I'll be out of the town to visit my relatives from Saturday to Tuesday(or Wednesday).
I'm not sure I have the time to visit Org while I'm there.
So, next Friday sounds good enough for the deadline.
After that, game should proceed just like I said in my previous post.

[Double A]

Sounds good to me.

[Subotan]

Cool

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Something special for you before I go..

Map with the names of settlements:
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/30yw/30YW_city_names_turn6-1.jpg

[miotas]

Methinks the French King doth quaff too much vin.

[A Very Super Market]

The capital of Saxony is Dresden? What are you, a dirty Thuringian?

[scotchedpommes]

Pointless post here. I'm blind.

[Centurion1]

isss does whats i wants foo

[Splitpersonality]

Something special for you before I go..

Map with the names of settlements:
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/30yw/30YW_city_names_turn6-1.jpg


Sweet.

Port "3." and all of france's names are pretty much ridiculous. :whip:

Also, sparta.

[scottishranger]

hmm, Bergen and Christiana are opposite where they are in real life...

[Double A]

I realize Damascus is 2 hexes north of where it should be. User error.

If Austria will give me a phase I will happily correct this problem.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Can someone send me a reminder when this round is almost over?

I can't do my orders yet I'm too busy.

[Csargo]

I realize Damascus is 2 hexes north of where it should be. User error.

If Austria will give me a phase I will happily correct this problem.

Sure. I won't do nuthin, I promise.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Can someone send me a reminder when this round is almost over?

I can't do my orders yet I'm too busy.

You are in luck. You have until Friday to get them in. :yes: phases are now a week long.



Sweet.

Port "3." and all of france's names are pretty much ridiculous. :whip:

Also, sparta.

actually I think 3 means that the name is off on the side under the number 3. That is not the ports actual name. :yes:

[Centurion1]

Port "3." and all of france's names are pretty much ridiculous.


you watch yourself sah

[Splitpersonality]

actually I think 3 means that the name is off on the side under the number 3. That is not the ports actual name. :yes:


Hahaha, whoops, I didn't even think that was possible! :laugh4:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Hahaha, whoops, I didn't even think that was possible! :laugh4:

yeah, seemed strange to me too. I was wondering if Cent went crazy. :laugh4:


that reminds me, what have you even been doing these last few phases split :inquisitive: We never hear about you in the writeup :laugh4::laugh4:

[Splitpersonality]

that reminds me, what have you even been doing these last few phases split :inquisitive: We never hear about you in the writeup :laugh4::laugh4:


Building a few forts, making sure the forts are garrisoned, confirming trade deals with my huge allies.

I'm not really at war with anyone so I'm not doing to much battling, I'm trying to avoid battle right now, and for the rest of the game, as much as I can.

I'm a lover not a fighter :kiss:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Building a few forts, making sure the forts are garrisoned, confirming trade deals with my huge allies.

I'm not really at war with anyone so I'm not doing to much battling, I'm trying to avoid battle right now, and for the rest of the game, as much as I can.

I'm a lover not a fighter :kiss:

ahh, that makes sense. Your empire is quite impressive. :yes: I may follow your lead after whats going down in France. :juggle2:

[Subotan]

Sweet.

and all of france's names are pretty much ridiculous. :whip:
What kind of twit would name a city "Nice"?
You should have seen the fort which Spain captured in Italy :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

I may follow your lead after whats going down (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t7e_TKzrYc) in France. :juggle2:
The fact that everyone wants a piece of France is just yet more proof of France's beauty and wealth.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

What kind of twit would name a city "Nice"?



I know, Those Italians are pretty zany. Not as bad as the city of Batman in turkey though. :laugh4::laugh4: If Double A does not make that town then it would be a crime.

[Subotan]

ny. Not as bad as the city of Batman in turkey though.
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

If Double A does not make that town then it would be a crime.
Agreed. Even if it's in Europe, or wherever, I don't care.

[Splitpersonality]

What kind of twit would name a city "Nice"?
You should have seen the fort which Spain captured in Italy :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:


Hey, nice is VERY nice. Pun not intended but take it as you will.

Your other names though, they're atrocious!

What about Carcassonne? St. Malo?

You ruin France for me ;_;

[Chaotix]

hmm, Bergen and Christiana are opposite where they are in real life...

Host's error, not mine. :clown:

[Double A]

Batman, Turkey? :laugh4:

Ok someone tell me which hex to put it in, that's just freaking awesome!

And orders are due in like 6 days. Plenty of time.

[slashandburn]

Any chance of joining this? Looks awesome!!!!:2thumbsup:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

hmm, Bergen and Christiana are opposite where they are in real life...


Host's error, not mine. :clown:

Yes, it's my mistake. Will be fixed later.


What kind of twit would name a city "Nice"?
You should have seen the fort which Spain captured in Italy :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

The fact that everyone wants a piece of France is just yet more proof of France's beauty and wealth.

You never had the chance to build that fort in Italy since Spanish army was too close.


Any chance of joining this? Looks awesome!!!!:2thumbsup:

I'll think about it. ~:)

[Beskar]

Shame we don't have a fully function HRE. Would have been interesting.

AVSM tried to do it, but it was pretty much Austria = "its mine mine and mine". :no:

Using White Squares, there are these factions -
Kazan (East Russia)
Algiers (Africa)
Crimea (Dangly bit)
Ragusa/Montenergo (1 hex, hurrah!)
Genoa (or at least Corisa)


Anything else involves siezing territory and looking towards the big factions...
Bavaria (South Germany East side)
Tuscany/Papal States (Italy)
Bohemia (again)
Prussia (north region of Poland)
Savoy (again)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Any chance of joining this? Looks awesome!!!!:2thumbsup:

I will need someone to take over for the Swiss Confederation if I find I am too burdened with Resident Evil.

No guarantees though. I am having fun killing things.

[Subotan]

You ruin France for me ;_;

Excellent :crowngrin:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Batman, Turkey? :laugh4:

Ok someone tell me which hex to put it in, that's just freaking awesome!

And orders are due in like 6 days. Plenty of time.

Guesstimating I would say Hex 19 of 35a Anatolia would be where Batman (http://www.patrolmag.com/scanner/982/town-of-batman-turkey-suing-warner-bros)is. :yes:




Shame we don't have a fully function HRE. Would have been interesting.

AVSM tried to do it, but it was pretty much Austria = "its mine mine and mine". :no:

Using White Squares, there are these factions -
Kazan (East Russia)
Algiers (Africa)
Crimea (Dangly bit)
Ragusa/Montenergo (1 hex, hurrah!)
Genoa (or at least Corisa)


Anything else involves siezing territory and looking towards the big factions...
Bavaria (South Germany East side)
Tuscany/Papal States (Italy)
Bohemia (again)
Prussia (north region of Poland)
Savoy (again)



A few other possibles.....

White Squares:
Georgia (The Caucasus looks pretty empty.)


Seized Territory:
Pretty easy to make a few rebellions and put him as there leader. IE.
Ireland
Naples
Bohemia, again
Brittany
Serbia
Milan

Of course, many of the nations who own thee lands would no doubt be in a position to crush them easily if the rebels can not get a sponsor.

ect. I think we should add Slash in, as long as it is not too much trouble for Ibn. The more the merrier. :yes:

[Double A]

If you're wondering why I haven't taken Georgia, it's because it's a lame Orthodox country. Not that all of them are lame, but Georgia is. INVADE IT I SAY!

If we have Montenergo we could get an event giving access to a Lvl 10 Assassin :2thumbsup:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

If you're wondering why I haven't taken Georgia, it's because it's a lame Orthodox country. Not that all of them are lame, but Georgia is. INVADE IT I SAY!

If we have Montenergo we could get an event giving access to a Lvl 10 Assassin :2thumbsup:

I have been wondering that actually. :yes: seemed a bit strange you invaded Austria with that huge area of white squares still open.

But hey, you leaving it open just means slash could be added there pretty easily. :2thumbsup: we could use another guy off in the east. That or someone in Italy.

[Double A]

Yeah 100% Orthodox doesn't cut it for me. I was kind of leaving it for Russia though, we had a deal. I didn't think that a new player would be able to play as them, and it's not like anyone would send an army over there to take it.

[Centurion1]

yeah let him in interesting to see a new eastern power

[Csargo]

slash can be my military advisor and basically control everything. I'll just yell about how those **** kids(Double A) are on my lawn and do other grumpy old man things.

[Double A]

Yeah, because Austria is totally older than the Ottoman Empire and the Rum Turks.

Maybe he could be the Crimean Khanate. Be nice to see another Muslim faction (who would be my protecorate)

[Centurion1]

shoulda thrown him in at north africa maybe before it got gobbled up by portugese.

i say far east like georgia is good.

[Double A]

It's not all "gobbled up" yet.

[Subotan]

Bavaria, perhaps?

[Greyblades]

One of the italian city states maybe?

[Subotan]

Papal States? Milan?

[Greyblades]

Sure why not, Ill easily replace thier income when I take southern france.

[Subotan]

You and what Army? I destroyed yours in Italy.

[Greyblades]

I have two others, and do you not remember that you lost all your armies to the english. I belive theres a phrase for that I cant quite remember it... Ah right: "no win situation."

[A Very Super Market]

Here's some German for Subotan: Zugzwang

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have two others, and do you not remember that you lost all your armies to the english. I belive theres a phrase for that I cant quite remember it... Ah right: "no win situation."

Let's not forget how much of their forces were smashed by the humble swiss pikemen! :2thumbsup:

[Greyblades]

Of course it goes without saying that Frances downfall is mostly due the Brave men who fought for thier country when a power hungry tyrant tried to extend his empires boundaries.

[miotas]

Here's some German for Subotan: Zugzwang

If he did nothing his situation would still get worse. So Zugzwang doesn't really apply.

[A Very Super Market]

Not so. With the game mechanics, doing nothing would simply give him a huge treasury to be used to recruit whatever units he wants in some province far away from the action. Then, using that huge force, he could smash all opposition.

[Double A]

Of course if he did that he would be in dept and France would be multicolored.

[Subotan]

Of course it goes without saying that Frances downfall is mostly due the Brave men who fought for thier country when a power hungry tyrant tried to extend his empires boundaries.

Wait, so the guy who merely wanted to confine Switzerland, not even to it's original borders is the "Power hungry tyrant", whilst the guys calling for the destruction and dismemberment of France are Brave?

:dizzy2:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Wait, so the guy who merely wanted to confine Switzerland, not even to it;s original borders is the "Power hungry tyrant", whilst the guys calling for the destruction and dismemberment of France are Brave?

:dizzy2:

:sweatdrop: He has a point guys. France started the war for inane reasons, but at this point I think neither side can justify it.

[Splitpersonality]

:sweatdrop: He has a point guys. France started the war for inane reasons, but at this point I think neither side can justify it.


Neutral Poland can justify it.

*Clears throat*

Boys will be boys :beam:

[Greyblades]

Wait, so the guy who merely wanted to confine Switzerland, not even to it;s original borders is the "Power hungry tyrant", whilst the guys calling for the destruction and dismemberment of France are Brave?

:dizzy2:

Well seeing as you didnt even bother to ask for it before attacking your neutral neigbour... yeah you are a power hungry tyrant.

[Subotan]

Going back to the Status Quo would be acceptable for France.
EDIT: Ask for what?

[Greyblades]

:brood: Are you telling me that you have completely forgotten why you went to war in the first place?

[Splitpersonality]

Well seeing as you didnt even bother to ask for it before attacking your neutral neigbour... yeah you are a power hungry tyrant.


I think he's more pointing out the fact that this war was started over a piece of land which the swiss wanted, them not being able to have it limits their power.

NOW the nations of europe are united against france and are going to tear him to pieces and limit his land.

Over what, a few hexes, some idle threats back and forth?

I don't think this war is right, on either side, but that's just my opinion.

[Greyblades]

I think your confused, the swiss had the land and france was the one who wanted it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Going back to the Status Quo would be acceptable for France.

BAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Absolutely hilarious. Those who start wars must pay for their villainous deeds. France would "accept" a white peace when they are in a terrible, losing position with 3 nations advancing on him. Yeah, I'd accept that too, in France's situation. And if I were France, I would think anyone who offered to let me off that easy is daft. It's like a group police officers surrounded a criminal on the street, who was in the process of stabbing someone to death.

Criminal- "I'd be willing to stop stabbing this person if you let me go free. Promise I won't do it again. Pinky swear!!!"

[Centurion1]

lol at all of your offers

[Double A]

A war is a war. You don't need to justify it.

[Csargo]

slash can have my spot if he wants it.

[Double A]

I'll take your land. There. Problem solved.

[Subotan]

:brood: Are you telling me that you have completely forgotten why you went to war in the first place?
Oh you mean over Savoy's claims in Italy? The ones which I inherited and that I am now willing to give up? The ones which I warned Switzerland not to take, although I was happy with them expanding in any other direction? The war I started merely to relieve them of only that land?

No, I haven't forgotten. But you appear to have forgotten why you have to gone to war; to protect Switzerland. By continuing t support him, it is obvious that you have been duped or are colluding with a tyrant. Well, it would be, unless I already knew that you wish to destroy me, your greatest rival, ad the only reason why you don't dominate Europe.

I think he's more pointing out the fact that this war was started over a piece of land which the swiss wanted, them not being able to have it limits their power.

Now some of the nations of europe are united against france and are going to tear him to pieces and limit his land.

Over what, a few hexes, some idle threats back and forth?

I don't think this war is right, on either side, but that's just my opinion.
Fix'd.
I would be happy to recognise Switzerland's claims in Italy. I have stated that several times. Switzerland and Spain have won that war. However, they have embarked on a totally different campaign, with the goal being the destruction of France. They might say that they are doing the same thing to me as I wanted to do to Switzerland, but that is a lie. I never wanted to control any of Switzerland's territory that lay within it's original borders, yet they want to reduce me to Paris, at least. It's disproportionate, implausible, and not right.

I think your confused, the swiss had land which they had taken against France's advise and france was the one who wanted it acted upon it's warnings in order to help the Savoyards
Fix'd.

BAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Absolutely hilarious. Those who start wars must pay for their villainous deeds
Reponsibility does not always lie with the soldiers who crossed the border first.

France would "accept" a white peace when they are in a terrible, losing position with 3 nations advancing on him.
And also because that's the right thing to do. If you still believed you were acting in self defence, and in the right, you would agree to it.


And if I were France, I would think anyone who offered to let me off that easy is daft."
No, I'd say they were sensible, as they'd piss off the rest of Europe otherwise.

. It's like a group police officers surrounded a criminal on the street, who was in the process of stabbing someone to death.

Criminal- "I'd be willing to stop stabbing this person if you let me go free. Promise I won't do it again. Pinky swear!!!"
I wasn't "stabbing you to death". I was implementing a citizens arrest on you, a common mugger. I just happened to get noticed by your mafia thug friend, and am now paying the price for implementing justice.

A war is a war. You don't need to justify it.
No, heathens don't.

[Csargo]

I'll take your land. There. Problem solved.

Bah. You wouldn't know what to do.

[slashandburn]

Edit: Nevermind i'd be happy to take over austria could someone send me the manual and as of right now all diplomatic negotiations need to be renegotiated. All trade agreements, alliances, wars ,and other diplomatic relations are absolved.

[Subotan]

Austria, so you're currently embroiled in a war against The Turk.

[Double A]

Bah. You wouldn't know what to do.

No, I do. I'd start spamming cities and ports. And convert Austria to Islam.

Also I would finish conquering the Adriatic coast.

[Centurion1]

i hate all papists.

end/

so slashandburn is austria. wow lets just throw him into the fire eh boys, got a war going with the turk, powerful empire, etc.

[Double A]

Csargo managed to get my lamest fort off my hands, so maybe slash can hold me off for a turn or two when the real attack begins.

[Centurion1]

lol he has like 5 armies and i think that catholic league army is strong

[Ibn-Khaldun]

slash can have my spot if he wants it.


Edit: Nevermind i'd be happy to take over austria could someone send me the manual and as of right now all diplomatic negotiations need to be renegotiated. All trade agreements, alliances, wars ,and other diplomatic relations are absolved.

I would have preferred to find this by receiving PM's from you..
So, Csargo is leaving?

Although all trade agreements and alliances will be canceled wars will not. You can't be attacked during the next 2 turns. However, if you start war or attack your current enemy - the Ottomans(Double A)- during those 2 turns then this reprieve will be canceled.

If you have questions then you could ask them in our social group (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/group.php?groupid=116). Also, check the first post for more information about the game(section "Useful information")

[Double A]

Ceasefire'd be fine with me. In fact the reason this war started (military access for a single turn) is kinda outdated.

[Centurion1]

lol no one cares not like anything happens on those borders

[scotchedpommes]

Well, this is a slightly unsettling development.

[Double A]

I'm still open SSNeo! :2thumbsup:

[Centurion1]

Austria will not bow to the Ottomans. Saxony will ensure that their new Emperor is fully informed of the situation and that his position is kept strong in the Holy War.

[Double A]

Bow?

https://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv142/The_Astral/Attila%20AAR/Part%204/exterminateMUAHAHAHAAAA.jpg

[Centurion1]

submit, surrender, parley.

you know ill use your language, islam is what we are talking about her heathen

[Double A]

Well that's a start. Everyone should speak Arabic.

[Centurion1]

touche heathen

[scotchedpommes]

I'm still open SSNeo! :2thumbsup:Not quite sure just what you are declaring yourself open to, or indeed for.

[Subotan]

To being beaten up.

[Beskar]

Not quite sure just what you are declaring yourself open to, or indeed for.

Maybe he was coming onto you.

[Subotan]

All Quiet on the Western Front.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Just reminding all of you that deadline for orders is Friday.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I will get you my orders today Ibn. Just had to iron some specifics out.

[Subotan]

There's no way you're going to occupy anymore of Normandy, regardless of your orders, Perfidious Albion.

[Subotan]

PERFIDIOUS

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yes, because the Swiss shall occupy it first. :clown:

[Subotan]

Hurr Hurr. The Swiss wouldn't know what to do with a coastline if it jumped up and bit them on the bum.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hurr Hurr. The Swiss wouldn't know what to do with a coastline if it jumped up and bit them on the bum.

Erect a 20-foot tall memorial statue for the French King, made out of the bones of his family and closest friends?

[Double A]

The Ottomans would do something like that.

[Subotan]

Erect a 20-foot tall memorial statue for the French King, made out of the bones of his family and closest friends?
Only 20 feet? That might be the entire population of Switzerland, but the French King has far more followers than that.

The Ottomans would do something like that.
No you wouldn't. The scariest thing you've ever done is poison the Turkish Delight.

[Double A]

Oh boo hoo the big bad Frenchie about to get curb stomped is trying to make fun of me!

[Subotan]

We'll see. He who laughs last laughs longest.

[Double A]

Well since tickling is actually pain I have a feeling you'll be laughing really hard, and very soon.

[Subotan]

The sheer weaknesses of the Spanish/Swiss "attack" will certainly be nothing more than a tickle, yes.

[Double A]

Well good thing England, Saxony, and the Netherlands are there too. Wouldn't want you to grow bored, or get too fond of having a kingdom.

[Double A]

Actual thing not related to French face but is important:

I'm not gonna be in Arizona from Saturday next weekend (next week), or the weekend after that, until extremely early January.

[Centurion1]

So you can't play for that amount of time.......

[Double A]

I'd need someone to look over the Ottomans. Maybe Whitey could do it? However a big ceasfire with everyone and anyone would be acceptable, with a bunch of cities, ports, and forts being made.

[Greyblades]

The sheer weaknesses of the Spanish/Swiss "attack" will certainly be nothing more than a tickle, yes.

Because of your stupid land grab I had to give away one of my most improtant stratiegic positions to keep this war two way, I assure you that my attack will be nothing short of cataclysmic.
But I am not completely dishonorable, to give you a sporting chance heres a piece of advice, if I were you I'd keep an eye on those forts your so fond of. :evil:

[Language please - GH]

[Subotan]

Because of your stupid land grab I had to give away one of my most improtant stratiegic positions to keep this war two way,

Old news. I already know about your dealings with the Dutch, and it's interesting to think that the terrifying Spanish Empire was laid low by the threat of war from the Dutch. Tsk tsk.


I assure you that my attack will be nothing short of cataclysmic.
It's so inspiring seeing you speak for the tens of thousands of Spanish soon-to-be widows.


But to give you a sporting chance, if I were you I'd keep an eye on those forts your so fond of.
Yeah, that ghost army that's going to come up from Italy has me quaking in my boots.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I'd need someone to look over the Ottomans. Maybe Whitey could do it? However a big ceasfire with everyone and anyone would be acceptable, with a bunch of cities, ports, and forts being made.

Hey, I would be willing to sub. I can make impartial tactical decisions. :juggle2: At least I believe I can. Just send me a outline of what you would want done and you will come back to an even better Ottoman empire. Unless you want someone else to do it.

[Double A]

Well as far as I know I could be at war with your ally, so... yeah...

[Centurion1]

send in contingency plans to ibn and we can all sign a pledge not to attack you and if one of us does we can gang up on them......

sub is preferable...... you gonna be gone for what? like 4 turns thats a pretty long time

[Double A]

What? 4 weeks? I thought it was 2.

I'm gonna ask my parents what the exact dates are. But I know I'll be gone Christmas week.

[Centurion1]

how early in january?

whatever just get a sub who's going to be active.

[Double A]

Leaving on 19th and coming back the 2nd.

I just realized that my Grandpa has Internet. However it's dial-up because he's too cheap to pay an extra 30 bucks for wireless.

[Centurion1]

Leaving on 19th and coming back the 2nd.

I just realized that my Grandpa has Internet. However it's dial-up because he's too cheap to pay an extra 30 bucks for wireless.

oh thats not that bad

i have dial up right now (wireless down) trying to say something :whip:

[miotas]

Leaving on 19th and coming back the 2nd.

I just realized that my Grandpa has Internet. However it's dial-up because he's too cheap to pay an extra 30 bucks for wireless.

Wow, that is weird, those are the exact dates that I'm going away for Christmas.

[Double A]

:laugh4:

[Subotan]

Does your Grandad have dial up, Miotas?

[miotas]

He hasn't even got a computer, but my parents have an ADSL connection, and with the week long rounds I think I'll manage.

[Subotan]

Awesome.

[Double A]

So if I don't post in 48 hours after the 19th, it's safe to say I need my appointed sitter to... sit... I guess.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

And who that would be?

[Centurion1]

i presume white eyes.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Well, I need to know who he is before 19th or I just freeze the Ottoman Empire until Double A comes back. ;shrug:

[Centurion1]

lol im sure he will respond before then hes got like 14 days to do so

[Askthepizzaguy]

OKAY! Now that I have some time, i'd be delighted to actually send in orders for this round.

Tomorrow.

[Double A]

So uh yeah Whitey can't do it. CDF I guess you're the guy. But since I'll have to get a sitter/replacement for Dark Falls and Koopa Troop, I'll probably just suffer through the dial-up.

[Subotan]

So I guess that's the deadline?

[slashandburn]

I haven't gotten the manual and i don't know what to do!!!!1:wall::wall::wall:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I haven't gotten the manual and i don't know what to do!!!!1:wall::wall::wall:



cool your jets, Ibn will probably send you your stuff while he works on the writeup :wink:

[Splitpersonality]

Bah, no time right now. Orders will be in, hopefully in a couple of hours.

[Double A]

Write-up comes Monday slash. There's still another day for late orders.

[Subotan]

You had an entire week to get your orders in. There's not really any excuse for late orders (Unless you were away). I got mine in on Wednesday.

[Centurion1]

^ he just started subotan he doesnt know what he is doing

[Double A]

You had an entire week to get your orders in. There's not really any excuse for late orders (Unless you were away). I got mine in on Wednesday.

I did too. It's different for slash since he doesn't know what to do.

[Subotan]

Oh right, I'd forgotten that Double A was referring to Slash. I thought he just meant that as a general comment.

Sorry Slash!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Players can send their orders for another 6-7 hours..

[Splitpersonality]

Thanks Ibn, orders on the way now! :D

[miotas]

You had an entire week to get your orders in. There's not really any excuse for late orders (Unless you were away). I got mine in on Wednesday.

Well... I... Err... I mean... :embarassed:

[Double A]

Nobody mind the frenchie sitting over in the corner...

[Subotan]

Sorry, what's the schedule now?

[Double A]

Mon - write up
Wed - report
Fri - orders due

[Subotan]

Ah right cool. Although I won't be here from Monday through to Wednesday, so I'll miss my inevitable triumph over the Spanish and Swiss. But no biggy.

[Double A]

Too bad the English, Saxons, and Hollanders will steal that glory from you.

[Greyblades]

Nah, they wont even get that far.