Netherworld III: Final Judgment [Concluded]

[Diamondeye]

Vote: God Emperor

Simply because his attacker was too badass to fail :D

:stare: Is this the case of "I don't know him but he sure sounds sexy"? I think it is.
unvote; vote: Arjos


I'm having fun :yes:

I just come straight from Midgard III where we went ahead and started to lynch important roles from the beginning. Basically lynching someone on Day 1, where there are no meaningful cases, who has shown that he resists nightkills is, imo, a mistake. No, GE doesn't get a free pass as townie as it could well be the ability of one of the Mafia or some third party scum but it could potentially be a big mistake to lynch him and it would be one that we could have avoided.

This. It's obvious that God Emperor has some sort of power-role. We should at least give him the time to explain himself. Which means he needs to explain himself - GE!


Vote: God Emperor because we need more bandwagonz.

That's the worst OMGUS I've seen in a while.


If I may :hide:

I don't recall TheLastDays' usual style in this game.. But so far it hasn't exactly been scummy.. at least in my eyes (yes I know he tries not to have me lynched , bla bla bla) . What I mean is that his style, so far, has given him a few votes, because he is eager and .. Well I am not sure there is anything more. I would just expect, that if he had scum budies, then they would by now, have told him to tone it down a bit, and that does not really seem to be the case. In other words, I would say his behavior atm should move him a little further away from a lynch and not closer :stare:

I agree: TLD doesn't strike me as scummy, the contrary in fact.


God Emperor can come role claim to me. I need some WIFOM in my life. :yes:

But you might choke on it! That's hazardous!

[Arjos]

:stare: Is this the case of "I don't know him but he sure sounds sexy"? I think it is.

Even if he might be someone who's trying to kill us, I can't help it, I liked how 'khaan wrote his character...

Anyway seems like my co-citizens vote only out of personal likings...
Silly to lynch me for openly reason about who could profit the most from God Emperor's accident...

I shall die and haunt the fools XD
If I survive the day and get killed the following night, easily means that those I accused are mafia (God Emperor and maybe Andres), that's our only weapon as townfolks...

[Believer]

Unvote; Renata
Vote: Arjos

How scummy can one get without being lynched? You're pushing the limits bro.

[classical_hero]

I don't understand why people are voting God Emperor.

He was attacked on N1.How do you know he wasn't attacked by a bad guy, but a good guy? But I won't vote for GE either. vote:DiamondEye

[robbiecon]

How do you know he wasn't attacked by a bad guy, but a good guy? But I won't vote for GE either. vote:DiamondEye

It seems likeliest, from the write-up, that it was a neutral who attacked GE.

[Renata]

unvote, vote: Arjos

[TheLastDays]

TLD I never thought of you as mafia, imo you are a town fooled by God Emperor...
I had to vote you because you vote out of sympathies and antipathies, which won't help town, and as I said you went for the easiest prey in the process: this can't be good for town...

I have no sympathies for GodEmperor (no offense GE ^^) because I don't know him. I've had no contact with him before this game.
My actions and my leaning towards giving GE the benefit of the doubt come only from what happened ingame so let's take a close look:


God Emperor was wandering the streets. He didn't much like the idea of having to live in some new place. Either way, sleep was unlikely. Besides, it was a clear, warm night. So much nicer than it was in the daytime. He turned around the corner to a new street, and saw what seemed to be an enormous human male in the middle of the street. It seemed to have been walking down, holding in one hand an axe of astronomical proportions. The haft had to be eight feet long, the double-edged head perhaps four feet. The man's eyes lit up upon seeing God Emperor. With his off hand, the man pointed. “God or Demon, I care not. You have brought ruin to me and my people! NOW YOU DIE!” God Emperor scoffed a bit. This mortal thinks he can kill me? The man moved at God Emperor, running at an incredible pace, and wildly swung the axe. God Emperor instinctively ducked the blow, the axe going just over his head and plowing into the house next to him. The axe ripped apart the brick and mortar as though it were papyrus. God Emperor's eyes went wide. Perhaps it would be wisest to play this safe. He took off at a run as the man swung his axe downwards, missing again and creating a gash in the street. The man howled, and went round the corner of the house. God Emperor was already in the distance, and wheeled down a dark ally. The man roared in frustration, and smashed his axe once more into the street before stalking off.

1. He didn't much like the idea of having to live in some new place. Either way, sleep was unlikely. This hints at one of the usual residents of Babylon who now have to take up living in a new house because Angra Mainyu has quarantined everyone in the surrounding area of his palace or one of the Gods/Demons who have betrayed the heavens/netherworld to join Mainyu. Yes, this might as well hint at Mafia who recently arrived but firstly I don't think it would be worded as 'living in some new place' and secondly I don't think 'khaan would give the Mafia away like that.
2. The whole killing attempt makes me think it was done by a third party killer. The guy with the axe doesn't strike me as being a vigilante but rather a third party killer who's after anyone. He was resisted by GodEmperor. So far so good.

Now what else do we have other than the writeup?


tsk tsk.. aiming attacks at me :laugh4:

now that it is day, I can actually vote.. . . Vote: Beskar


If I may :hide:

I don't recall TheLastDays' usual style in this game.. But so far it hasn't exactly been scummy.. at least in my eyes (yes I know he tries not to have me lynched , bla bla bla) . What I mean is that his style, so far, has given him a few votes, because he is eager and .. Well I am not sure there is anything more. I would just expect, that if he had scum budies, then they would by now, have told him to tone it down a bit, and that does not really seem to be the case. In other words, I would say his behavior atm should move him a little further away from a lynch and not closer :stare:

What exactly strikes you as scummy here? Nothing? Thought so.

So your whole case is built on the fact that he was attacked N1 and survived? So yeah, he's obviously some kind of power role. There were tons of pro town power roles in both Netherworld 1 + 2. That's not enough conclusive evidence for the lynch of a power role.

So who is voting for him?
Khazaar on the wrong assumption that Gods and Demons would only be found among the Mafia.
Yaropolk with no real reason at all.
Earthling with strange reasoning. There's no indication whatsoever that all townies are humans and there is nothing to follow up on with GE, other than that he survived a night attack.
Beskar with a pure OMGUS vote.

There's simply not enough evidence against GE for a lynch right now. A lynch that will take out a power role that might be town. He might be scum, yes, but that will be determined. We simply need more information before we lynch a known power role. I would also propose to any doctors out there to protect GE tonight. He might not be as lucky next time.

Now where's your vote? Shouldn't it be on your prime suspect? No, it's on me who is, according to you, probably town jut because I am trying to avoid the lynch of a power role on the basis of nothing.
I don't vote out of personal likings, I don't like GE any better than you but he didn't behave scummy at all. You did.

[Zack]

Holy ellipses!

Unvote, Vote: Arjos

[Yaropolk]

There I fixed it for you


So who is voting for him?
Khazaar on the wrong assumption that Gods and Demons would only be found among the Mafia.
Yaropolk with no real reason at all to put pressure on GE and because he defends you instead of himself.
Earthling with strange reasoning. There's no a strong indication in the PM whatsoever that all townies are humans and there is nothing to follow up on with GE , other than that he survived a night attack and refuses to provide any info.
Beskar with a pure OMGUS vote following the logic in other posts.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't want to have to read all that.

Vote: Somebody

[Tratorix]

This case against God Emperor is terrible. The case against Arjos is only slightly less terrible, but good enough for day 1. Also, anyone who reads god or demon in the write ups shouldn't be surprised as:


Then, in a single day, Angra Mainyu unveiled his plan. In a single day, Gods and Demons alike turned on the Heavens and Netherworld and joined him, and he took the city of Babylon and all its empire, in just one day.

this is in the intro. God or Demon does not necessarily mean mafia.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Everyone vote for woad&fangs. There's a perfectly acceptable AND appropriate case on woad for day one: He's got fangs.

I saw him eating a spicy denizen of the Netherworld-ball.

You people and your "cases". :rolleyes:

[Tratorix]

Everyone vote for woad&fangs. There's a perfectly acceptable AND appropriate case on woad for day one: He's got fangs.

I saw him eating a spicy denizen of the Netherworld-ball.

You people and your "cases". :rolleyes:

Tsk, tsk. Has Midgard 3 broken your spirit so completely that you're trolling from round one?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Hm, I don't think any of you guys should get Cashews and Milk.

[TheLastDays]

Yaropolk, quoted for you from the OP:


While the Gods and Demons were fighting, they awakened an ancient, powerful foe, Angra Mainyu. Mainyu had been in wait for thousands of years after being banished. He took the land between earth and the Netherworld. The Gods and Demons continued their battle anyways, thinking he wasn't important. Then, in a single day, Angra Mainyu unveiled his plan. In a single day, Gods and Demons alike turned on the Heavens and Netherworld and joined him, and he took the city of Babylon and all its empire, in just one day.

Emphasis by me.

So yes, Khazaars assumption that Gods and Demons will only be found among the Mafia is wrong.

We aren't allowed to quote 'khaans PMs but the mass PM to everyone indicates in no way that all townies are humans. Period.

Leaves yours and Beskar's vote.
You say your's was a pressure vote. Fair enough.

Beskar did not follow the logic of the others because there is no logic to follow. He voted GE because it was easy and GE voted him. It is something that will need further analysis down the road should Beskar be around later.

Now I'm fine with pressuring people to provide information but let's for a moment assume that GE is a town power role. What do you want him to reveal now, to all of us, to the Mafia as well? What exactly could he say that would satisfy our need to know? Nothing. We need more info. I want another kill attempt by the guy that attacked him to analyse that character more. I want another night to see what happens. Again: GE is by no means a confirmed townie but lynching him D1 because he's some kind of power role is not a good idea. We need more evidence.

[thefluffyone93]

Everyone vote for woad&fangs. There's a perfectly acceptable AND appropriate case on woad for day one: He's got fangs.

I saw him eating a spicy denizen of the Netherworld-ball.

You people and your "cases". :rolleyes:

YOUR LOGIC IS INFALLIBLE MY GOOD SIR!

Unvote; Vote: Woad&Fangs

FOR VICTOLY AND LARGE MULTICOLORED WORDS!

[TheLastDays]

Hm, I don't think any of you guys should get Cashews and Milk.

Thank God :D

[thefluffyone93]

Tsk, tsk. Has Midgard 3 broken your spirit so completely that you're trolling from round one?

HEY!

There's nothing wrong with that!
He might actually live this time!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tsk, tsk. Has Midgard 3 broken your spirit so completely that you're trolling from round one?

Ladies and gentlemen of the Netherworld, I'm just a pizza man. I fell on hard times and later got a job delivering cheese pies to folks who "preciate" me but don't tip. Your world frightens and confuses me! Sometimes the honking horns of your traffic make me want to get out of my Chevy... and run off into the hills, or wherever.. Sometimes when I get a message on my laptop computer, I wonder: "Did little demons get inside and type it?" I don't know! My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts. But there is one thing I do know - when a man like woad&fangs shows up in the Netherworld covered in woad, baring his fangs, then he is entitled to no less than two votes for being woad, and two votes for being fangs.

Thank you.

[thefluffyone93]

1662

[God Emperor]

Bah.. Just lost my pm due to a disconnected internet :/ .. anyway I will try to write it again...

I was asked why I spent time to defend TLD and not myself: It appeared to me that he was becoming a very popular choice for a lynch and I was not to pleased with that. I did not defend myself because I am really not certain how much I wish to reveal at this stage. I need to think things a bit over.
This however created a good deal of activity, and that is nice to see.. It is however not nice to see how Arjos, is not placing his vote where his mouth is. I would not mind at all if he was lynched.. In fact I will give a hand :P
Unvote; Vote: Arjos

I have recieved some pms and a messenger message, or so, and that is all very good, but I feel that it is a good idea to direct one of these pm talks to the public.. At least it is worth knowing that Ironside is quiet active off thread, judging by his pms, but that he is not showed up in thread at all (haven't cast a vote yet, as far as I can see). I can make the pm conversation public if that is desired by anyone..

Now for myself, I am sorry I am not still going to reveal much.. Well because I need to think it over a bit more, and I hope that can be accepted :) it's a bit difficult to decide what is good to reveal and what is not, but it will come. You can of course go forward to presure me into revealing all, but I would prefer that did not happen ^^

[Askthepizzaguy]

Fluffy, if you want it to show up as full size, do this:

link to the image, but host it yourself please

If you use the buttons in the advanced editor it attaches it. And then shrinks it, methinks.

[Diamondeye]

How do you know he wasn't attacked by a bad guy, but a good guy? But I won't vote for GE either. vote:DiamondEye

What has that vote to do with anything you said. Or are you just "playing the odds" like Romanic? It's innocent enough for the first couple of people D1. But if it happens later, I'm going to say it's a bad reason (or, no reason at all) for a vote.

[Zack]

In general, "playing the odds" like that is silly. Law of averages and such.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Thank God :D

You welcome.:balloon2:

[thefluffyone93]

Fluffy, if you want it to show up as full size, do this:

link to the image, but host it yourself please

If you use the buttons in the advanced editor it attaches it. And then shrinks it, methinks.

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/tom_delay.jpg?t=1312220998

YAY IT WORKS.

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/happycat.png?t=1312221101

[Ironside]

I have recieved some pms and a messenger message, or so, and that is all very good, but I feel that it is a good idea to direct one of these pm talks to the public.. At least it is worth knowing that Ironside is quiet active off thread, judging by his pms, but that he is not showed up in thread at all (haven't cast a vote yet, as far as I can see). I can make the pm conversation public if that is desired by anyone..

Now for myself, I am sorry I am not still going to reveal much.. Well because I need to think it over a bit more, and I hope that can be accepted :) it's a bit difficult to decide what is good to reveal and what is not, but it will come. You can of course go forward to presure me into revealing all, but I would prefer that did not happen ^^

Well I didn't want to vote before deciding if it should be on you or not. My other significant day 1 contribution would otherwise be a simple random vote, you know very important stuff (that actually did kill me in the revengening).

Do you usually out pm conversations (and I won't mind you displaying those) or did you find a not yet posting semi-lurker unusually suspect?

[Askthepizzaguy]

[Removed - GH]

Unvote, vote: TheLastDays

Although I'll probably switch back to woad, because there's an ironclad case which proves his guilt beyond all doubt.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Pizza: No quoting chatlogs.

[Beskar]

I don't understand why people are voting God Emperor.

He was attacked on N1.

There was a night phase already?

unvote;vote: TheLastDays

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh poopy. Good catch.

There was nothing incriminating in it. It was basically a joke.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Also, I think it's folly to examine the writeup this closely when we really have no idea what anything is. Since most of the candidates this round are based off that, I like my vote where it is. :snobby:

[seireikhaan]

Round over. Doing the tally now.

[TinCow]

Now for myself, I am sorry I am not still going to reveal much.. Well because I need to think it over a bit more, and I hope that can be accepted :) it's a bit difficult to decide what is good to reveal and what is not, but it will come. You can of course go forward to presure me into revealing all, but I would prefer that did not happen ^^

Hmmm... this comment seems oddly familiar for some reason I can't quite put my finger on.

You all deserve to lose if you do not lynch GE after a scumtastic comment like this.

[TheLastDays]

Also, I think it's folly to examine the writeup this closely when we really have no idea what anything is. Since most of the candidates this round are based off that, I like my vote where it is. :snobby:

Only one of the candidates is based off that. The second one (me) is based off the fact that I didn't want people to lynch the candidate that was based off the writeup and the third candidate is the one that based the candidate off th writeup.

[Renata]

What has that vote to do with anything you said. Or are you just "playing the odds" like Romanic? It's innocent enough for the first couple of people D1. But if it happens later, I'm going to say it's a bad reason (or, no reason at all) for a vote.

I could vote you for snuggling me (in a sort of backwards way).

[SoulBlade]

I couldn't even vote! Argh, we need longer days...

[thefluffyone93]

I couldn't even vote! Argh, we need longer days...

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/billymaysball.jpg?t=1312224085
I'm back!

[seireikhaan]

Angra Mainyu stood from his throne. Having kept attention to the discussion, he was certain who was to be offered to him. "TheLastDays, come forward!" Mainyu boomed to crowd. TLD was shuffled to the front by a small group, and they pushed him to the ground in front of their lord. "Does anyone have any last comments for the condemned?" Mainyu asked.

"It's Arjos!" A voice yelled out. "I'm sure!"

"He's right!" another yelled out.

"Me too, I think its Arjos!"

"It's gotta be him!"

"Let TLD go, its Arjos!"

Mainyu was almost baffled when Arjos was pushed alongside TLD in front of him. Seemed support for both deaths was strong. Angra Mainyu stared into their eyes, to guage them himself. He pointed a finger out at TheLastDays. "Looks like.... fortune smiles on you today." With that, he picked up Arjos by the scruff of the neck, and windmill slammed him down in front of the throne. Mainyu pulled his sword from its sheath, and plunged it into the gut of Arjos. Mainyu motioned to a guard. "Please, remove this from my sight," indicating Arjos' limp form.

He turned back to the crowd gathered. "Good luck to you all tonight. Have fun, wherever you hide, scum..."




Arjos 8 (God Emperor, Zack, Renata, Believer, Diamondeye, Arjos, Robbiecon, TheLastDays)
TheLastDays 7 (Beskar, ATPG, Glyphz, Arjos, Earthling, Seon, B_ray)
God Emperor 3 (Beskar, Khazaar, Yaropolk)
SoulBlade 1 (White eyes)
Woad & Fangs 2 (Fluffy, Dcmort)
Fluffy 2 (Secura, Chaotix)
Johnhughthom 2 (Johnhughthom, Riedquat)
Beskar 1 (God Emperor)
GeneralHankerchief 1 (Choxorn)
Yaropolk 1 (GeneralHankerchief)
Riedquat 1 (Johnhughthom)
B_ray 1 (woad&fangs)
Diamondeye 1 (Romanic)
Diamondeye 1 (Classical Hero)
Abstain 1 (Reenk)


NIGHT 2 BEGINS NOW! PLEASE SEND ME ORDERS WITHIN 24 HOURS.

Alive: 36

Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Believer
Beskar
B_Ray
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Choxorn
Classical Hero
Dcmort
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Double A
Earthling
Fluffy
Johnhughthom
GeneralHankerchief
Glyphz
God Emperor
Ironside
Khazaar
Reenk
Renata
Riedquat
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
SoulBlade
TheLastDays
Warman
Woad&fangs
White Eyes
Yaropolk
Zach



Killed: 3

TinCow (N1)
Tratorix (N1)
Visorslash (N1)

Lynched: 1

Arjos (D1)

[Diamondeye]

Hmmm... this comment seems oddly familiar for some reason I can't quite put my finger on.

You all deserve to lose if you do not lynch GE after a scumtastic comment like this.

I hadn't seen that comment... That's not good enough, GE. You'll need to tell us more, as soon as night ends.

[TinCow]

You'll need to tell us more, as soon as night ends.

You shouldn't wait, you should make him tell you right now. If he's a pro-town role, the mafia already know it. He gains nothing by hiding if he's pro-town. The only benefit he gets out of stalling is buying more time as scum. Plus, there's the fact that he survived a night kill. How many pro-town roles do you know that are night-kill immune? Not exactly a balanced power for a pro-town role to have. Finally, there's the fact that the write-up specifically shows GE up and about and 'active' last night.

Make him confess now.

And then lynch him no matter what he says.

[edit]Oh, one more thing. He's very happy to ID Ironside as potential scum simply because Ironside is more active via PMs than in the thread. That's an incredibly scummy move, essentially just tossing a possible pro-town role ID out into the public thread for no reason whatsoever. What was the point in saying that? It doesn't even look like GE tried to verify whether Ironside was pro-town or not, GE just concluded that Ironside had a role and that was a good enough reason for GE to want to publicly ID Ironside and get him lynched. GE is the scummist scum that ever scummed.

[SoulBlade]

I still didn't understand Arjos' role. Any enlightenment?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: woad&fangs

[johnhughthom]

Vote: woad&fangs

:rolleyes:

If I were mafia I would do this to make it look like I wasn't paying attention.

Posted from a mobile telephony device

etc.

[thefluffyone93]

PIZZA!
GRAB MY FACE!

[Earthling]

I still didn't understand Arjos' role. Any enlightenment?

Oh, just a wild guess that can't possibly be true, maybe basic human townie?

[Diamondeye]

You shouldn't wait, you should make him tell you right now. If he's a pro-town role, the mafia already know it. He gains nothing by hiding if he's pro-town. The only benefit he gets out of stalling is buying more time as scum. Plus, there's the fact that he survived a night kill. How many pro-town roles do you know that are night-kill immune? Not exactly a balanced power for a pro-town role to have. Finally, there's the fact that the write-up specifically shows GE up and about and 'active' last night.

Make him confess now.

And then lynch him no matter what he says.

[edit]Oh, one more thing. He's very happy to ID Ironside as potential scum simply because Ironside is more active via PMs than in the thread. That's an incredibly scummy move, essentially just tossing a possible pro-town role ID out into the public thread for no reason whatsoever. What was the point in saying that? It doesn't even look like GE tried to verify whether Ironside was pro-town or not, GE just concluded that Ironside had a role and that was a good enough reason for GE to want to publicly ID Ironside and get him lynched. GE is the scummist scum that ever scummed.

I don't know about the "behind the scenes" stuff, GE does that as scum all the time so it'd be logical for him to assume the same applies to others.

Still, as long as I have a reveal when I throw my vote tomorrow, I'm glad. GE, get on it!

[glyphz]

If he doesn't reveal by night's end, then the first order of the day is to place votes on him, if he is still alive by then.

edit: issaikhaan, the final tally is showing error, though it does not change that Arjos has the highest count

Tally:
Arjos: 8 - God_Emperor, Zack, Renata, Believer, Diamondeye, Andres, TheLastDays, robbiecon

TheLastDays: 7 - Beskar, Askthepizzaguy, glyphz, Earthling, B_Ray, Arjos, Seon

johnhughthom: 2 - Riedquat, ELITEOfWARMAN...
Diamondeye: 2 - Romanic, classical_hero
Fluffy: 2 - Secura, Chaotix
God_Emperor: 2 - Khazaar, Yaropolk
woad&fangs:2 - dcmort93, Fluffy

B_Ray - woad&fangs
Yaropolk - GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief - Choxorn
SoulBlade - White_eyes:D

abstain: n0rg3 Roink, CaptainBlackadder

[woad&fangs]

Curse you Pizza! I have been outed once again as a god. I am Brittania, the godly embodiment of the Britons. When you are ripped apart by my historically inaccurate war-dogs during the night phase, you will rue the day you voted for me!

[Askthepizzaguy]

You do realize that I am pizza, and therefore accustomed to being ripped apart and eaten?

Why don't you threaten me with freezer burn or something actually scary.

[Romanic]

Eh, so it looks like the writeups will come before I come back from work most days. :(

I believe we should let God Emperor alone for a while. Typical situation where he's either a power role or a bad guy. If he's still alive in 2 days we can force a claim out of him.

Luckily (or not) the Scums should make our decision easier, as they're likely to kill GE soon, unless they feel gutsy enough to let a possible power role acting around.

You don't lynch a possible power role just because he's shown surviving a night attack anyway. It would help if GE didn't write this though:

"sorry I am not still going to reveal much.. Well because I need to think it over a bit more, and I hope that can be accepted :) it's a bit difficult to decide what is good to reveal and what is not, but it will come. You can of course go forward to presure me into revealing all, but I would prefer that did not happen ^^"

Standing right next to TinCow about finding this scummy. Would have been better left unsaid. :smug2:

[B-Wing]

I'm gonna need to buy a smartphone just to keep up with these games while I'm at work.

I'm currently focused on the God Emperor question. I understand his position of not wanting to reveal his role on Day 1, but at the same time, he's almost guaranteed to be a mafia target very soon, if not tonight. So it doesn't seem like there's anything to lose by revealing now before it's too late (unless, of course, he's scum). Having said that, if he is indeed a pro-town role, I could also see how it might be preferable to keep his role secret, so that the mafia do not know what role they have eliminated. Perhaps a private reveal to someone he trusts would be best?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Perhaps a private reveal to someone he trusts would be best?

How can he trust anyone? How can any of us trust anyone? It's only Night 2.

[thefluffyone93]

How can he trust anyone? How can any of us trust anyone? It's only Night 2.

You can definitely trust Pizza.
Absolutely no way he is scum.
No siree.

[B-Wing]

I trust you, GH. :sweetheart:

Even though I voted for TLD, I think he would be an obvious choice for GE right now. If I was in his place and thought I was about to die, that's probably what I would do.

[TinCow]

For those who think GE needs to be given more time, I think you need to re-read the game rules. I have bolded the relevant portions for your convenience:


There will be one main mafia faction, consisting of four players. Their goal will be the extermination of all town forces and all neutral roles which may have conflicting victory conditions. There will be a number of pro-town roles, including at least one doctor, one watcher, a mason group, and a couple 'variety' roles to compliment the 'normal' townies. Lastly, as always, there will be a couple independent roles. These may have their own victory conditions, or may be able to tie themselves to a group(town or mafia). Generally speaking, I reserve the craziest of my ideas for neutrals, since they tend to start alone and have the hardest challenge for winning, so the independent roles might be a cult or a dragon or a shark with laser beams or anything else my brain has spawned. The main thing to expect is a fair bit of chaos and ambiguity. I rarely give yes/no or black/white answers to questions. Many roles which will have hidden abilities. If they do, you will never be told them by me, but with some homework, you may be able to guess on your own what they are. Some roles may gain or lose powers based on game events. If your role changes in this manner, I will inform you. Lastly, its a guilty pleasure of mine to confuse players, particularly pro-town networks. Make sure to take care of who you trust. :wink:

Pro-town roles do not survive night kills because it is not balanced. GE is almost certainly an independent role. Independent roles are major liabilities and should be eliminated because they can never be trusted, particularly in the Netherworld series. If you leave him alive for later, you will probably never lynch him. There will always be someone else who's scummier or who you think is more worthy of a lynch at that particular moment. Before you know it, there will be 4 people left, and one will be GE. Lynch him now. You won't get a better lynch option for Day 2. In addition, if you don't lynch him he will remain lynch bait forever for these reasons, and will constantly be a distraction to the town. Get it over with.

[Arjos]

Ahahahahahahahah...
Looking forward next chapters, I like your writing style 'khaan ^^
As TinCow said, this town will hardly succeed though :P

[Tratorix]

For those who think GE needs to be given more time, I think you need to re-read the game rules. I have bolded the relevant portions for your convenience:



Pro-town roles do not survive night kills because it is not balanced. GE is almost certainly an independent role. Independent roles are major liabilities and should be eliminated because they can never be trusted, particularly in the Netherworld series. If you leave him alive for later, you will probably never lynch him. There will always be someone else who's scummier or who you think is more worthy of a lynch at that particular moment. Before you know it, there will be 4 people left, and one will be GE. Lynch him now. You won't get a better lynch option for Day 2. In addition, if you don't lynch him he will remain lynch bait forever for these reasons, and will constantly be a distraction to the town. Get it over with.

This all makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, you're dead and therefore no one will listen to you.

[Arjos]

you're dead and therefore no one will listen to you.

It's fun to be a ghost :D
I think I got some mafia in the votes I got, ended with getting too many, would have preferred to die during the night as a confirmation for those people...
God Emperor might have easier time now, still GL to him for his role ^^

[TinCow]

This all makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, you're dead and therefore no one will listen to you.

I am dead via mafia, which gives me credibility. Plus, this is Netherworld; death is only an inconvenience. :grin:

[Reenk Roink]

My associates, please deal with this. :bow:

No quoting pms, please, even silly ones.

[Zack]

My associates, please deal with this. :bow:Quoting PMs is illegal.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Zack, you naughty boy. You say "yes" to such requests. It's either a scumbag who has the most unfortunate recruiting system this side of Capo, or someone having fun with you. Go along for the ride, man!

*smack* For being so silly.

[Zack]

Well, he asked me that N1, and I said "of course!". I just barely sent him the PM he quoted.

[Diamondeye]

I'm gonna need to buy a smartphone just to keep up with these games while I'm at work.

Scum!


This all makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, you're dead and therefore no one will listen to you.

Wrong. He makes a alot of sense. I'm definitely listening (so don't stop speaking, TC :beam: )

[Death is yonder]

Bah humbug sickness and work, sorry for not voting 'khaan :embarassed:



[edit]Oh, one more thing. He's very happy to ID Ironside as potential scum simply because Ironside is more active via PMs than in the thread. That's an incredibly scummy move, essentially just tossing a possible pro-town role ID out into the public thread for no reason whatsoever. What was the point in saying that? It doesn't even look like GE tried to verify whether Ironside was pro-town or not, GE just concluded that Ironside had a role and that was a good enough reason for GE to want to publicly ID Ironside and get him lynched. GE is the scummist scum that ever scummed.


Pro-town roles do not survive night kills because it is not balanced.

The second reason alone at this juncture is enough to warrant a lynch on GE. If he's pro-town, he's dead anyway or lynch bait, so if he really wanted to help he should have stopped being dead weight and tried to help the town, not stall for time.

In any case, he has a strong chance of being anti-town and his now lynch-bait status does no favors for anyone even if he was pro-town.

Needs to be lynched.

Edit: Curiously it appears that I have stumbled upon the secret of always posting on mobile devices (despite using a comp). I am now undetectable when using a smart phone to access mafia muahaha!!

Double Edit: Oh wait its just Firefox 4.0

[TheLastDays]

Pro-town roles do not survive night kills because it is not balanced. GE is almost certainly an independent role. Independent roles are major liabilities and should be eliminated because they can never be trusted, particularly in the Netherworld series. If you leave him alive for later, you will probably never lynch him. There will always be someone else who's scummier or who you think is more worthy of a lynch at that particular moment. Before you know it, there will be 4 people left, and one will be GE. Lynch him now. You won't get a better lynch option for Day 2. In addition, if you don't lynch him he will remain lynch bait forever for these reasons, and will constantly be a distraction to the town. Get it over with.

You make a lot of sense here and my whole move to save GE from a Day 1 lynch was before his "Hihihi I'm not telling you everything"-post. That post was actually scummy as hell the netherworld and imo he is a very solid lynch for Day 2. I'D still like to see a full role reveal if he survives the night. Who knows... If it's as well thought out as yours in the first Netherworld we should give him a fair chance of winning :clown:


This all makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, you're dead and therefore no one will listen to you.

Incorrect. He was more than likely killed by the Mafia and his kill description makes him look very town-aligned and that's very good reasons to listen to him. Now you and Arjos are two completely different stories :wink:]

[Ironside]

Scum!



Wrong. He makes a alot of sense. I'm definitely listening (so don't stop speaking, TC :beam: )

You if anybody should certainly know about it. ~;)

I agree with Tincow's accessment. Didn't get anything conclusive out of the pm conversation, but it did lean me more towards that GE is scum rather than townie.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

This is all confusing to me. :balloon2:

[Zack]

This is all confusing to me. :balloon2:
Would you please change your name to something shorter, preferably something which isn't in all caps? Please?

[God Emperor]

Right . I plan on posting this during the night phase, in case that I am dead when it dawns. I am sorry for not speaking up right away, but I thought I could just as well get the most out of my unlucky situation, as possible. When one is being attacked and does not die, then there is only one real way to go, and that is that this person is to die, whether by lynch or night kill. So well, here is my thoughts during the last round.



I am attacked according to the write up, and I survive. I have no idea as to why I survive, since I really don't have a special role in any way. That I survive is as far as I see it, either because of a doctor, or because that the person who attacked me is not able to kill all (or has a potential fail). Now as I said, it is only standard to have the person who survives, eliminated, so I thought the best would be to just sit quiet for a single phase, since it really boosted activity for a day 1 .. and well that is always useful imo. So that is plain and simple the first and most important reason to why I didn't think it would be beneficial to just reveal all right away. The second thing is that I somehow hope that the mafia would attack me, given the secrecy (only told Renata, because I can't keep my mouth shut). If the mafia would kill me, then that reduces the chance that they will hit an important role (yes that is just the kind of player that I am). The only downside to this, as far as I see, is that people may have given this whole thing a lot of unecessary thought, and if that is so , then I am sorry ofc :). But I don't agree with people (DIY comes to mind) that says this is just hurting town.
anyway, that is about all of it. I think this is/was the best time to come clear, since there is hardly much advantage in keeping this up during the next coming day phase


You shouldn't wait, you should make him tell you right now. If he's a pro-town role, the mafia already know it. He gains nothing by hiding if he's pro-town. The only benefit he gets out of stalling is buying more time as scum. Plus, there's the fact that he survived a night kill. How many pro-town roles do you know that are night-kill immune? Not exactly a balanced power for a pro-town role to have. Finally, there's the fact that the write-up specifically shows GE up and about and 'active' last night.

Make him confess now.

And then lynch him no matter what he says.

[edit]Oh, one more thing. He's very happy to ID Ironside as potential scum simply because Ironside is more active via PMs than in the thread. That's an incredibly scummy move, essentially just tossing a possible pro-town role ID out into the public thread for no reason whatsoever. What was the point in saying that? It doesn't even look like GE tried to verify whether Ironside was pro-town or not, GE just concluded that Ironside had a role and that was a good enough reason for GE to want to publicly ID Ironside and get him lynched. GE is the scummist scum that ever scummed.

I guess I will just reply to you, since you seem the most eager to have me eliminated :p.. I will see if I can go over the different points you are making. first part about that I gained nothing: that should be explained above. Through the explanation, you may also see that it is a not a thing that should end up buying the scum more time (on the contrary if they have actually gone after me this night phase.). As for the Ironside part.. well there I think you are adding a bit more into my posts, than what I am actually saying. If I direct your first to the spoiler, and then let you return here, then you can see that I wished to see what was possible to get out of the unfortunate thing. I am saying that I find it odd when people are very active to go fish for information in private, but does not even show up during the day phase to even talk or vote. The point of mentioning this to others, since I find it strange, should be rather clear. You are saying that I didn't try to verify if Ironside have a pro town role. In that you are completely correct, so where you conclude from that I just wish ironside hung, and that I suddenly am sure that he has a role? well I don't know where that is comming from, and I asume it is just a mistake on your behalf. I am going public with strange behavior (from the way I see it) and I have not exactly done anything else concerning Ironside :)

[Diamondeye]

Sorry I'm not buying it. Both the fact that you survived, the writeup, and your earlier considerations about revealing suggests that you have something to reveal...

Also, I'd be dumbstruck if the mafia attack you (and so should you); You're premium lynchbait and has survived an attack. There is almost no chance of the scum killing you and you should've figured that out, too. You're smart enough :beam:

[Renata]

As I said to you yesterday, GE, I would really like to see what happened to you repeated on someone else before I'm comfortable believing it. There was no sign of a doctor or roleblocker involved; it looked most like either a failing of the attacker or something inherent to you. If it was the former (nerfed role, or can only kill certain people, or whatever) that should be apparent sooner or later (unless that role winds up dead). If it's you, you are currently lying.

I'm not going to try to guess whether the mafia would take a shot at a non-mafia you or not; there are too many variables, not least your own truthfulness.

[God Emperor]

well . Heh it's perfectly fine that people are not buying it, because I am not selling; it's fact (snatch quote :p) . That the mafia is attacking me or not is not anything I can do much about. Chance is that I am being lynched, and it has been so from the very start. so ofc, that I am to be attacked was not the main priority (as told above). what happened created activity. Even if you may not believe me, you must admit, that if what I am telling is true, then I really haven't had that much to work with. anyway you ofc also know now that people may be able to survive attacks from this person.

[seireikhaan]

Ok, orders are pretty much all in. Writeups in progress.

[TheLastDays]

Renata kinds sums up my feelings about your situation GE. If we see the same guy that attacked you attempt another kill and fail again there might be more credibility to your claims. We'll see.

[thefluffyone93]

Renata kinds sums up my feelings about your situation GE. If we see the same guy that attacked you attempt another kill and fail again there might be more credibility to your claims. We'll see.

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/tumblr_llp2yvIr1f1qasn59.gif?t=1312306026

[seireikhaan]

B_ray had gathered the others in the neighborhood together for the night. First, he thought they might be safer in greater numbers. Second, he was hoping to alleviate some nerves by playing some games together. Help keep their minds off of possible impending doom and whatnot. The group was setting up the board and pieces when a frantic knock came from the door. Had someone been late? Was someone in need of aid? B ray rushed to the door and opened it. A very pretty woman, in a crimson satin dress stood in the doorway, looking quite calm and unharmed. “Can I... can I help you?” he asked her.



“Oh yes. You see, I have a cart out here I was using to move some, er, figs. But I think the axle broke.” B ray gave a look back at the group, then stepped out past the doorway, instinctively closing the door behind him.


“Now, where is this car-” B ray never got to finish his query, as a saber whipped past his throat in a blur, sending him to the ground in a crumpled heap.





The sky was beautiful at sunset. As the sun finished its descent from the sapphire sky, the colors simply were splendid. Yaropolk was sitting atop his new accommodations, legs hanging down. It was one thing humans had on any god or demon. Even the Heavens lacked the sheer natural beauty the earth sometimes displayed. With the sun finishing its descent, and embarking from earth for the night, the sky darkened. With a sigh, Yaropolk picked himself up. He turned back to the stairs leading to the main level, only to startle upon seeing a woman dressed in a simple, tan, tunic, wings spread behind her.


“Yaropolk, so enthralled are you with this world, are you? Then perhaps... perhaps you should stay here. Forever.” She unsheathed a straight sword, rushing straight at him. Yaropolk bent backwards to avoid a slash from her terrible, swift sword. His precarious position at the edge of the house resulted in him tumbling backwards, falling down on his back in the street. Yaropolk began to get up, but the woman was already leaping down to him, sword drawn high, ready to deliver a finishing blow. Yaropolk closed his eyes and clenched, waiting for the blow.... Faint footsteps were heard, and a mighty clang rang out through the night. Yaropolk opened an eye, and saw another woman, in a white khiton and bronze helmet, standing before him, a round shield braced in front of her. The new woman delivered a kick to the aggressor's midsection, creating distance for the spear in her right hand. Without turning her head, she whispered to Yaropolk. “Flee, you fool. Be safe.” And so Yaropolk, without hesitation, fled down the street as fast as he could.


“No!” the aggressor shouted. She spread her wings, and took off from the ground. The shield bearing protector, however, grabbed her right leg, and brought her back to the ground. “He is not your fight. I am.” The aggressor shook her head. She immediately turned on Yaropolk's protector, kicked her wings out again, and flew away from the protector, away from the direction Yaropolk fled.




"As I knew it!" Angra Mainyu boasted in the throne room the next morn. "Only one casualty last night! We may just have them on the run! Now, go at it! Bring me a scum!"



DAY TWO BEGINS NOW. YOU HAVE 24 HOURS.


Alive: 35

Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Believer
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Choxorn
Classical Hero
Dcmort
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Double A
Earthling
Fluffy
Johnhughthom
GeneralHankerchief
Glyphz
God Emperor
Ironside
Khazaar
Reenk
Renata
Riedquat
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
SoulBlade
TheLastDays
Warman
Woad&fangs
White Eyes
Yaropolk
Zach



Killed: 4

TinCow (N1)
Tratorix (N1)
Visorslash (N1)
B_ray (N2)

Lynched: 1

Arjos (D1)

[Zack]

Dude with the axe is gone, it looks like, so we can't come to a satisfying conclusion regarding God Emperor. Speaking of which, I think his story sounds like complete baloney.

Vote: God Emperor

[Renata]

I think there are more arguments against believing him than for, myself.

vote: God Emperor

[dcmort93]

For now I'm going to go with my vote from the first day and pizza's vote and ​Vote Woad&Fangs

[TinCow]

Right . I plan on posting this during the night phase, in case that I am dead when it dawns. I am sorry for not speaking up right away, but I thought I could just as well get the most out of my unlucky situation, as possible. When one is being attacked and does not die, then there is only one real way to go, and that is that this person is to die, whether by lynch or night kill. So well, here is my thoughts during the last round.



I am attacked according to the write up, and I survive. I have no idea as to why I survive, since I really don't have a special role in any way. That I survive is as far as I see it, either because of a doctor, or because that the person who attacked me is not able to kill all (or has a potential fail). Now as I said, it is only standard to have the person who survives, eliminated, so I thought the best would be to just sit quiet for a single phase, since it really boosted activity for a day 1 .. and well that is always useful imo. So that is plain and simple the first and most important reason to why I didn't think it would be beneficial to just reveal all right away. The second thing is that I somehow hope that the mafia would attack me, given the secrecy (only told Renata, because I can't keep my mouth shut). If the mafia would kill me, then that reduces the chance that they will hit an important role (yes that is just the kind of player that I am). The only downside to this, as far as I see, is that people may have given this whole thing a lot of unecessary thought, and if that is so , then I am sorry ofc :). But I don't agree with people (DIY comes to mind) that says this is just hurting town.
anyway, that is about all of it. I think this is/was the best time to come clear, since there is hardly much advantage in keeping this up during the next coming day phase



I guess I will just reply to you, since you seem the most eager to have me eliminated :p.. I will see if I can go over the different points you are making. first part about that I gained nothing: that should be explained above. Through the explanation, you may also see that it is a not a thing that should end up buying the scum more time (on the contrary if they have actually gone after me this night phase.). As for the Ironside part.. well there I think you are adding a bit more into my posts, than what I am actually saying. If I direct your first to the spoiler, and then let you return here, then you can see that I wished to see what was possible to get out of the unfortunate thing. I am saying that I find it odd when people are very active to go fish for information in private, but does not even show up during the day phase to even talk or vote. The point of mentioning this to others, since I find it strange, should be rather clear. You are saying that I didn't try to verify if Ironside have a pro town role. In that you are completely correct, so where you conclude from that I just wish ironside hung, and that I suddenly am sure that he has a role? well I don't know where that is comming from, and I asume it is just a mistake on your behalf. I am going public with strange behavior (from the way I see it) and I have not exactly done anything else concerning Ironside :)


well . Heh it's perfectly fine that people are not buying it, because I am not selling; it's fact (snatch quote :p) . That the mafia is attacking me or not is not anything I can do much about. Chance is that I am being lynched, and it has been so from the very start. so ofc, that I am to be attacked was not the main priority (as told above). what happened created activity. Even if you may not believe me, you must admit, that if what I am telling is true, then I really haven't had that much to work with. anyway you ofc also know now that people may be able to survive attacks from this person.

Was there supposed to be some kind of information in here somewhere? I cannot find anything useful in all of this text. The write-up clearly shows that you were active when you were attacked. You would be wise to claim your role now, as it is obvious you are not a townie and the bandwagon is about to pick up a whole lot of steam.

[Believer]

For now I'm going to go with my vote from the first day and pizza's vote and ​Vote Woad&Fangs

Perfect reasoning.

Vote: Woad&Fangs

[God Emperor]

@ Tincow
There is the information about what happened from my perspective. If that does not fall under the catagory 'information' then no , there is no information.
and if the write up clearly says that I was active then I can give you another piece of information; everything in the writeups are not to be taken all that serious. I am sorry Tincow but no matter how obvious this case is, you are sadly wasting your time. The only thing I can suggest is that you keep ind mind that I might not be scum, to later on in the game, and then move on, focusing on some others. There is really no point in focusing on me, since I am very likely to be lynched. I can not roleclaim, since I don't have a role

[Tratorix]

Did anyone really believe someone would try to attack GE last night? He's already survived one attack and everyones already made it clear he's on the chopping block for today.

[Renata]

Perfect reasoning.

Vote: Woad&Fangs

LOL.

[TinCow]

I can not roleclaim, since I don't have a role

You have got to be kidding me. You're going to claim townie after you posted this yesterday?


I was asked why I spent time to defend TLD and not myself: It appeared to me that he was becoming a very popular choice for a lynch and I was not to pleased with that. I did not defend myself because I am really not certain how much I wish to reveal at this stage. I need to think things a bit over.

...

Now for myself, I am sorry I am not still going to reveal much.. Well because I need to think it over a bit more, and I hope that can be accepted :) it's a bit difficult to decide what is good to reveal and what is not, but it will come. You can of course go forward to presure me into revealing all, but I would prefer that did not happen ^^

Townies do not have to "think things over," nor do they have anything to "reveal" in the first place.

[Tratorix]

You have got to be kidding me. You're going to claim townie after you posted this yesterday?

I actually kind of believe him now, if only because of what a monumentally stupid lie that would be. :laugh4:

He should still probably be lynched though.

[Diamondeye]

I'm willing to believe that GE might be right, but I'm still going to Vote: God Emperor since it's our best lead. I'd be glad if made other use of this day than just bandwagon him, though, since one of the reasons it really is the best option is that it's "only day 2". If we just bandwagon GE, tomorrow we'll be none the wiser (probably), and even though it'll be Day 3, It'll feel like day 2, information wise. Let's not waste this day completely, please.

Also, great, only one death! Just blindly shouting out here, but Yaropolk looks like he was attacked by the mafia, but survived due to protection. He also looks like a normal townie. I would suggest that the shieldbearer from the writeup protects him again (if allowed), and that any exposed power-roles should claim to him. So, GE, in case you were lying about vanillaness, here's a chance to get off the hook without painting the world's largest bullseye on your rear-end.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: God_Emperor

Seeing as the tally is 2-2 right now. If the bandwagon becomes a runaway (which is looking pretty likely) then I'll move my vote off G_E and onto someone else so that this round isn't a complete loss, discussion-wise.

[TheLastDays]

Gonna have to vote: God_Emperor

He might be lying, he might be telling the truth but at the moment he'll distract later and I really didn't see the scummy non-reveal and then reveal as a regular townie coming.

btw, where are all the killers? If the pearly lady is not one of the Mafia we saw only one Mafia kill today.

[Zack]

Did anyone really believe someone would try to attack GE last night?
No, of course not. I was expecting the guy who attacked GE to attack someone else.


Also, great, only one death! Just blindly shouting out here, but Yaropolk looks like he was attacked by the mafia, but survived due to protection. He also looks like a normal townie. I would suggest that the shieldbearer from the writeup protects him again (if allowed), and that any exposed power-roles should claim to him. So, GE, in case you were lying about vanillaness, here's a chance to get off the hook without painting the world's largest bullseye on your rear-end.
There are more than just mafia and townies in this game, as khaan himself has said.

[Tratorix]

btw, where are all the killers? If the pearly lady is not one of the Mafia we saw only one Mafia kill today.


Atop a nearby roof, a woman shook her head. Her simple, tan robe fluttered slightly in the wind. “Truly, we were correct. Savages.” With that, she opened pearly wings, and jumped from her position.


He turned back to the stairs leading to the main level, only to startle upon seeing a woman dressed in a simple, tan, tunic, wings spread behind her.

She attacked Yaropolk.

[dcmort93]

Isn't it kinda surprising that the same person attacks two different people and both live? Could it be possible that there is some sort of mechanic in play that perhaps is preventing the killer from killing outside of a roleblock\protection attempt? Just something to think about

[TheLastDays]

You have to read my posts more carefully. I said if the pearly lady is not one of the Mafia we saw only one Mafia kill today.

I know she killed. We just can't be sure she's Mafia since she killed another killer on N1 as you well know :wink:

So if she's not Mafia, the only Mafia kill we saw tonight was the killing of B_Ray.

I just realised that there weren't any other kills N1, except the axe guy on G_E although he might be third party...

[Tratorix]

Who are you referring to? GE was attacked by a man with an axe, while Yaropolk was attacked by a woman with wings.

Edit: TLD, both of the killers are pretty obviously angels. They are most likely our mafia team. But don't worry, I understand it will take a few more nights of her killing indiscriminately for you to realize that. :wink:

[TinCow]

Isn't it kinda surprising that the same person attacks two different people and both live? Could it be possible that there is some sort of mechanic in play that perhaps is preventing the killer from killing outside of a roleblock\protection attempt? Just something to think about

GE is the only person that survived without explanation. Yaropolk very clearly survived due to doctor protection.

[dcmort93]

Ok I had just been going off context when I posted that, sorry bout that

[Beskar]

Vote: God Emperor

For reasons already given.

[Riedquat]

Who are you referring to? GE was attacked by a man with an axe, while Yaropolk was attacked by a woman with wings.

Edit: TLD, both of the killers are pretty obviously angels. They are most likely our mafia team. But don't worry, I understand it will take a few more nights of her killing indiscriminately for you to realize that. :wink:

Sorry, isn't her who killed you after you killed Visorslash on night 1? :inquisitive:

[Tratorix]

Sorry, isn't her who killed you after you killed Visorslash on night 1? :inquisitive:

Your point being? :beam:

[Riedquat]

Your point being? :beam:

Just being sure I'm not confusing you with a townie person, that's all. Town shouldn't been listening to you...

[Earthling]

vote: God Emperor should have been lynched yesterday.

TLD seems rather desperate to distance himself from GE too.

[Tratorix]

Just being sure I'm not confusing you with a townie person, that's all. Town shouldn't been listening to you...

No they shouldn't, but not because of my alignment. :laugh:

[Zack]

vote: God Emperor should have been lynched yesterday.
Then why did you vote for TheLastDays instead?

[Riedquat]

Then why did you vote for TheLastDays instead?

Someone already pointed this out, but it seems Khan's tally was wrong, Earthling voted for God Emperor yesterday; feel free to check it yourself!

[TheLastDays]

vote: God Emperor should have been lynched yesterday.

TLD seems rather desperate to distance himself from GE too.

Distancing? I wuv my God_Emperor :sweetheart:

Actually unvote, vote: Earthling

[Yaropolk]

This shout goes out to my protector aka Pallas aka Minerva aka Athena aka Tritonia aka Ageleia aka Itonia aka Hippia aka Young Shiny Bastard aka Baby Zeus.

Here' s an artist's rendering of the night's events


http://xs.to/media/77439


About revealing to me - townie networks are dangerous - think twice if you're not better off remaining the shadows protector o' mine.

[Khazaar]

Vote: God Emperor should have been lynched yesterday...

[Yaropolk]

There seems to be a nice bw on GE, so I'll start one on white eyes. He's been awfully quiet and dischord breeds discussion. So speak up!
vote: white_eyes

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

vote: God Emperor

DIE!!

[Andres]

Vote : Ironside

[Earthling]

Then why did you vote for TheLastDays instead?

Yes, I did unvote and then vote for TLD and khaan's tally was correct. I would have preferred GE but his posts were scummy too and the bandwagon seemed shifting that way so I didn't think leaving a vote on GE would make a difference in the end. I didn't have time to get back and change anything after that, so I was surprised by the Arjos lynch, to say the least.

[Zack]

Someone already pointed this out, but it seems Khan's tally was wrong, Earthling voted for God Emperor yesterday; feel free to check it yourself!
Incorrect. He voted God Emperor, unvoted, then voted TheLastDays.

[Riedquat]

Umm... yeap I see his post, need to re-check myself... out of time right now...

[Diamondeye]

There are more than just mafia and townies in this game, as khaan himself has said.

Yeah, but Yaro definitely looked Human, something I'm guessing few, if any, power roles are.


About revealing to me - townie networks are dangerous - think twice if you're not better off remaining the shadows protector o' mine.

I was not suggesting the protector to reveal herself, that would be a very bad idea. I was suggesting people who are already in the spotlight could reveal to you and you could judge whether they were "real" or not. Definitely leave the protector in the shadows...

Also, unvote; vote: W_E:D. There's enough votes on GE to lynch him twice. I think we need to poke some lurkers.

[God Emperor]

Although I am to be lynched, I might still put my vote where is seems most right.
Vote: Fluffy

[Romanic]

Although I am to be lynched, I might still put my vote where is seems most right.
Vote: Fluffy
Why is Fluffy a right lynch?

[God Emperor]

Because of this quote ^^ I really don't like the way it sounds.. I almost get the feeling that he just sits and mock us, because he can say just about anything, being a troll. I would have picked ironside if it wasn't because I was told that it is normal for ironside to lurk around behind the scenes


You can definitely trust Pizza.
Absolutely no way he is scum.
No siree.

[Romanic]

I see, certainly some solid evidence!

vote: Fluffy

[Earthling]

Why is Fluffy a right lynch?

At this point about the only thing I can think we'll get out of his votes and statements are trying to trick us into believing who is or isn't his scum teammate. He won't even claim neutral, I assumed with all the delay he could have at least come up with some fake neutral roleclaim so he might be fully mafia and just doesn't want to give away connections.

In the same vein pressure votes aren't going to work though, if a scum was truly being "pressured" today they'd ignore it and know GE is still being lynched so they wouldn't have to panic over the votes. Unless there's a clear indication we'd have some vig-killed or try to lynch them tomorrow if they don't speak up, something like that.

[TheLastDays]

Unless there's a clear indication we'd have some vig-killed or try to lynch them tomorrow if they don't speak up, something like that.

Good idea. All vigs that might be out there: Target Earthling

[God Emperor]

Good idea. All vigs that might be out there: Target Earthling

Hurray :D TLD is the hero of this mafia game

[TinCow]

FOS: TLD

Lynch him tomorrow.

[TheLastDays]

FOS: TLD

Lynch him tomorrow.

On what reasoning?

[TinCow]

On what reasoning?

Your posts are very scummy. They reek of forced joviality and seem like attempts to sound casual as a cover for having difficulty acting like a townie.

[White_eyes:D]

I think those pics look hot Yaropolk....even the bird-human one.:eyebrow:

Not much seems to be going on and it 's been only 26-28 hours since my last post. I hardly think I am lurking, RL still must come first sadly. I am going to Vote:Chaotix he seems scummy.:inquisitive:

[thefluffyone93]

Why is Fluffy a right lynch?
Because I'm......fluffy?
Is he discriminating against fluffiness?

Vote: God Emperor

This injustice will not stand!

[Zack]

At this point about the only thing I can think we'll get out of his votes and statements are trying to trick us into believing who is or isn't his scum teammate. He won't even claim neutral, I assumed with all the delay he could have at least come up with some fake neutral roleclaim so he might be fully mafia and just doesn't want to give away connections.

In the same vein pressure votes aren't going to work though, if a scum was truly being "pressured" today they'd ignore it and know GE is still being lynched so they wouldn't have to panic over the votes. Unless there's a clear indication we'd have some vig-killed or try to lynch them tomorrow if they don't speak up, something like that.
Why do you assume he is scum, instead of some third-party or neutral?

[Romanic]

8 God Emperor (Zack, Renata, GH, Beskar, Earthling, Khazaar, Warman, Fluffy)
2 woad&fangs (dcmort, Believer)
2 White_Eyes:D (Yaropolk, Diamondeye)
2 Fluffy (GE, Romanic)
1 Earthling (TheLastDays)
1 Ironside (Andres)
1 Chaotix (WE)
---
18 not voting (lots)

[Romanic]

Because I'm......fluffy?
Is he discriminating against fluffiness?

NO!

It's like GE said : "You sit and mock us", and I don't like it. :smug2:

[TheLastDays]

NO!

It's like GE said : "You sit and mock us", and I don't like it. :smug2:

You do know that's fluffy, right? What else does he do than sit and mock the others?

[thefluffyone93]

NO!

It's like GE said : "You sit and mock us", and I don't like it. :smug2:

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/9195804.jpg?t=1312321342

[Romanic]

You do know that's fluffy, right? What else does he do than sit and mock the others?

Yeah, I know. :grin:

I just don't think it's necessary to have a runaway bandwagon on GE, don't see what good it will do us later in the game as Scums can easily hide inside that bandwagon (no matter what GE flips).

[thefluffyone93]

Yeah, I know. :grin:

I just don't think it's necessary to have a runaway bandwagon on GE, don't see what good it will do us later in the game as Scums can easily hide inside that bandwagon (no matter what GE flips).

VERY WELL!

Unvote; Vote: Romanic

Does that please you?
HMMMM?!?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote : Ironside

Yes, Ironside must die.

Vote: Ironside

As for woad, he must also die.

[Tratorix]

VERY WELL!

Unvote; Vote: Romanic

Does that please you?
HMMMM?!?

Not enough memes. :thumbsdown:

[thefluffyone93]

Not enough memes. :thumbsdown:

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/tumblr_lo6j7a1oZY1qb8jhe.gif?t=1312321660

[Chaotix]

Eventually people are just gonna have to get used to fluffy.

I don't think he ever intends to play a game seriously. He's just comic relief. Only reason to lynch him is scan evidence or if he gets too annoying. As of now, I probably would be voting for him, if not for the fact that suspected power role/scum GE is attempting to take the easy way out by making him a target.

That said, not necessarily a scum move. Only survivalist. I don't trust him, but I won't be contributing to the runaway bandwagon.

Let's take a third option.

Vote:Believer

[thefluffyone93]

Eventually people are just gonna have to get used to fluffy.

I don't think he ever intends to play a game seriously. He's just comic relief. Only reason to lynch him is scan evidence or if he gets too annoying. As of now, I probably would be voting for him, if not for the fact that suspected power role/scum GE is attempting to take the easy way out by making him a target.

That said, not necessarily a scum move. Only survivalist. I don't trust him, but I won't be contributing to the runaway bandwagon.

Let's take a third option.

Vote:Believer


gets too annoying

WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

[woad&fangs]

Vote: woad&fangs
Maybe I'll get necromancied back to life by a third party :smile:. I like Pizza's plan.

[Beskar]

OOC:
Personal note, I am going to Gothenburg, Sweden tomorrow (Wednesday). I will not be "active" until Tuesday morning earliest (since that is when I arrive home). Just realized stupidly right now when packing that I forgot about that when signing up to the game.

I will be making attempts to stay in the game and try to respond as much as I can with my phone if I end up near any wifi spots, though since I am at a convention, there won't be lots of time for me to do that.

[Believer]

OOC:
Personal note, I am going to Gothenburg, Sweden tomorrow (Wednesday).

Swing by Stockholm while you're here, I'll buy you a pint!

[Zack]

OOC:
Personal note, I am going to Gothenburg, Sweden tomorrow (Wednesday). I will not be "active" until Tuesday morning earliest (since that is when I arrive home). Just realized stupidly right now when packing that I forgot about that when signing up to the game.

I will be making attempts to stay in the game and try to respond as much as I can with my phone if I end up near any wifi spots, though since I am at a convention, there won't be lots of time for me to do that.


I will be making attempts to stay in the game and try to respond as much as I can with my phone if I end up near any wifi spots, though since I am at a convention, there won't be lots of time for me to do that.


I will be making attempts to stay in the game and try to respond as much as I can with my phone if I end up near any wifi spots


try to respond as much as I can with my phone


with my phone


phone

FoS: Beskar

[GeneralHankerchief]

Right, bandwagon seems to be runaway enough. Continuing with the lurker poking:

Unvote: God Emperor
Vote: autolycus

[Tratorix]

Can someone please explain to me why posting from a phone is now considered a scum tell?

[johnhughthom]

Because it's rare that a townie would care enough to check up and post in a game when away from their comp. Supposedly.

[dcmort93]

But the stigma came about in an age when smart phones were new and thus checking things from a mobile was rare. Now its almost commonplace

[Beskar]

Swing by Stockholm while you're here, I'll buy you a pint!

Won't be going that way sadly, I am busy on the days I am there in Gothenburg. Thanks for offer though! Especially since the pints are meant to be expensive over there, which I will be finding out on Thursday.


FoS: Beskar

Only a fool would not FoS: Beskar !


Because it's rare that a townie would care enough to check up and post in a game when away from their comp. Supposedly.

There is great shame to being wogged, also being inactive is very inconsiderate to the host. Then again, you was the mafia god father and you didn't even check in on the game when you was away!

[johnhughthom]

Then again, you was the mafia god father and you didn't even check in on the game when you was away!

What kind of conference could somebody with grammar that appalling possibly be going to?



:clown:

[Zack]

Can someone please explain to me why posting from a phone is now considered a scum tell?
I've always understood it to be a joke.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I've always understood it to be a joke.

The meme originally came from Mafia IX, when it was how the town nailed Subotan as the last mafioso. I think its effectiveness as a scumtell has been spotty at best after that.

[Reenk Roink]

Vote: White eyes

[B-Wing]

I guess I just wasn't scummy enough for you, huh mafia? And you had to interrupt my board game night! That's beyond evil. I do appreciate sending such an attractive, seductive lady to dispatch me, though. But I wish we could have gotten to know each a little better before she offed he. I like a woman who doesn't mind getting her hands dirty. Oh, and to Xena, Warrior Princess: why didn't you come to my rescue last night? Why's Yaropolk so deserving of your attention? If you had fought off my attacker, I would have invited you in to play Settlers of Catan with the rest of the townies.

Anyway, it is nice to see so many violent femmes here in the Netherworld.

[autolycus]

Aaah, I've been lurker poked!!!

I'm going to try following the fluffy one. Someone that insane could only be an oracle. vote:romanic

[glyphz]

There's probably a 3 vote lead bet G_E & the next canditate, & at least 10 nonvoters.

Vote: God_Emperor for safe measure...

[Seon]

I am inclined to agree with TinCow on his statements regarding TLD. However, God-Emperoragon seems to be come and gone already.

Therefore, I shall Vote: Chaotix, for his wisdom of taking a "third path" seems to be overthinking it for a townie.

[Arjos]

Listen to the ghost of who got it all on day 1: vote GE and TLD, so town can leisurely focus on mafia...

[Double A]

I totally didn't forget I was in this game. Totally.


WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

vote: fluffy

[Diamondeye]

This injustice will not stand!

It was a nice rug and really tied the room together, man?


Yes, Ironside must die.

As for woad, he must also die.

What. Are you just wishing death upon people left and right? Less work for you, mayhaps? :stare:


What kind of conference could somebody with grammar that appalling possibly be going to?

You read my mind :laugh4:


I totally didn't forget I was in this game. Totally.

What a suspiciously specific denial!

Also, unvote; vote: TLD

[thefluffyone93]

I totally didn't forget I was in this game. Totally.



vote: fluffy

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/haterz-gonna-hate.jpg

[glyphz]

OH NOES!!!

Fluffy released the POKEMANS!!!:shocked:

[God Emperor]

That's a rather unexpected Unovte; vote , DE ! What happened to the 'let's not waste the phase' ? . Could you please just tell a bit about what you are thinking, when unvoting me? :)

This I suppose goes for many who does not vote me but goes for the lurkers. There can be no doubt that all seem perfectly satisfied with me being lynched.. That ofc includes the mafia ^^ But just to vote someone else to avoid a run away bandwagon, but without questioning anybody ? That is not really leading anywhere as far as I can see.
I am sorry to say so, but this is one big wasted phase =/

[TheLastDays]

I am inclined to agree with TinCow on his statements regarding TLD.


Which ones? Oh, these?


FOS: TLD

Lynch him tomorrow.


Your posts are very scummy. They reek of forced joviality and seem like attempts to sound casual as a cover for having difficulty acting like a townie.

I don't think they are but you're entitled to your own opinion. What else is there to say about someone finding my posts scummy?


Listen to the ghost of who got it all on day 1: vote GE and TLD, so town can leisurely focus on mafia...

No, we won't listen to your ghost because you might have been Mafia. We won't listen to my ghost either should I get lynched today, tomorrow or any other day. That's just how it goes and in general it's good advice to ignore the lynched I'd say.

[Death is yonder]

Also, great, only one death! Just blindly shouting out here, but Yaropolk looks like he was attacked by the mafia, but survived due to protection. He also looks like a normal townie. I would suggest that the shieldbearer from the writeup protects him again (if allowed), and that any exposed power-roles should claim to him. So, GE, in case you were lying about vanillaness, here's a chance to get off the hook without painting the world's largest bullseye on your rear-end.

As might have been mentioned, claiming to attacked individuals may not be a great idea:

1. We don't know how much influence (or at least I don't recall it being said by 'khaan) the killers have on the writeup. I mean in Midgard III the town got confused by details released by the Jotun in write ups (EG: 'now there are two who remain' or something)
2. With third parties, being attacked isn't a clear pass ('looking human' ties in with point 3)
3. Who knows, maybe appearances in write ups are with cover roles (are they present?) when third party etc are attacked or conversely, mafia by third party

In any case, GE's responses thus far have not convinced me. There is a very clear attempt to try and deflect attention elsewhere, however subtle it may have been intended.

GE also still hasn't responded to:

1. The discrepancy as pointed out by Tincow in that:

a)
GE is the only person that survived without explanation. Yaropolk very clearly survived due to doctor protection.

b)
@ Tincow
I can not roleclaim, since I don't have a role


I did not defend myself because I am really not certain how much I wish to reveal at this stage. I need to think things a bit over.


Now for myself, I am sorry I am not still going to reveal much.. Well because I need to think it over a bit more, and I hope that can be accepted :) it's a bit difficult to decide what is good to reveal and what is not, but it will come. You can of course go forward to presure me into revealing all, but I would prefer that did not happen ^^

2. This unexplained yet significant issue with his claim (which corresponds to the fact that it seems like nobody protected him)


Pro-town roles do not survive night kills because it is not balanced.

All in all, a good lynch.

Vote: GE

[Double A]

OH NOES!!!

Fluffy released the POKEMANS!!!:shocked:

And why did it have to be Smugleaf? This was the only gen I've ever gone with a not-Fire type!

[Arjos]

We won't listen to my ghost either should I get lynched today, tomorrow or any other day. That's just how it goes and in general it's good advice to ignore the lynched I'd say.

At first I thought you were a clueless townie, but now you are pretty much a terrible liar...
The feeling is like you can't handle your role, without getting irrational...

[Captain Blackadder]

Vote GE

I suspect that he might be a sk of some kind occasionally they are given a one hit bulletproof to offset their inherent weakness.

[Ironside]

That's a rather unexpected Unovte; vote , DE ! What happened to the 'let's not waste the phase' ? . Could you please just tell a bit about what you are thinking, when unvoting me? :)

This I suppose goes for many who does not vote me but goes for the lurkers. There can be no doubt that all seem perfectly satisfied with me being lynched.. That ofc includes the mafia ^^ But just to vote someone else to avoid a run away bandwagon, but without questioning anybody ? That is not really leading anywhere as far as I can see.
I am sorry to say so, but this is one big wasted phase =/

Meh, even if you would be truthful in your statement (which I doubt, Tincow's point is very damning), it's a wasted phase due to an unsual setup by the host. Should you lie, it's certainly not wasteful.

And yes, I'm vain enough to vote on my own case, even if it's already a bandwagon.
Vote: God Emperor

[Visor]

You guys don't realise, if GE was scum, he would kill me night one. Therefore he isn't scum! Stop killing him! :D

[God Emperor]

although futile it is to go over the points that I have not responded to (though I thought I had) I might still give it another shot.

Question A, which concerns, as to how I survived, I already said in the post, that was posted just before dawn of the second phase, I have no clue. I am sorry if you want a better answer; I know nothing more about the 'why' I survived, than any of you do.

Question B. Why did I say that I was uncertain if a role reveal was a good idea, If I did not even have a role: again I will direct you to the post that was posted prior to day phase 2. It is a simple case of cost/benefit. Given that I was doomed to be lynched, since I survived the night attack, the best I could do was to make it as appealing for the mafia to kill me, as possible, rather than having to waste a day phase in kangaroo court. It should all be in my previous posts, if you really care :p (!)


@ Captain blackadder: You really suspect a serial killer now ? I thought that the common accepted truth was that it was a third party attacking me, given the ' I don't care if you are good or evil ' . But you believe that is the mafia that attacked me ?

[TheLastDays]

At first I thought you were a clueless townie, but now you are pretty much a terrible liar...
The feeling is like you can't handle your role, without getting irrational...

Handle what role?

This won't do, Arjos. If you accuse me of lying you'll have to point to the instances where I have actually lied, which should be interesting because I haven't.

Honestly my thoughts about you change with every post you make you keep looking town/scum/town/scum/town/scum and I'm glad you are already lynched and we don't have to decide on what to do with you later on.

[SoulBlade]

vote: fluffy
Seems too fluffy as already stated

[johnhughthom]

Vote: God Emperor

Don't forget to insert some stuff here in an effort to pretend I thought long and hard about the vote before posting.

[classical_hero]

vote:God Emperor

[robbiecon]

You guys really want God Emperor's head on a plate, don't you?

Vote: Askthepizzaguy, because that's where true evil lies.... probably.

[Visor]

Oh, and please don't kill Robbiecon. He's been killed off early in a lot of games recently. Thanks scumbags.

[Andres]

Unvote ; Vote : robbiecon

[Askthepizzaguy]

You guys really want God Emperor's head on a plate, don't you?

Vote: Askthepizzaguy, because that's where true evil lies.... probably.

I'm very evil and I like it.

[Renata]

I am sorry to say so, but this is one big wasted phase =/

Oh, I see.

[TinCow]

Question B. Why did I say that I was uncertain if a role reveal was a good idea, If I did not even have a role: again I will direct you to the post that was posted prior to day phase 2. It is a simple case of cost/benefit. Given that I was doomed to be lynched, since I survived the night attack, the best I could do was to make it as appealing for the mafia to kill me, as possible, rather than having to waste a day phase in kangaroo court. It should all be in my previous posts, if you really care :p (!)

Well, if you are innocent, which I doubt, I hope you realize that doing this is exactly what got you lynched. If you are townie and have nothing to hide, you should not lie about your role and change your story. Getting caught in a lie is a guaranteed lynch, and you really didn't give the town much choice other than to vote for you.

Plus, you clearly did not think this strategy through. Why would the mafia immediately attack you at night when it looks to everyone like you're immune to night kills?

[God Emperor]

Well, if you are innocent, which I doubt, I hope you realize that doing this is exactly what got you lynched. If you are townie and have nothing to hide, you should not lie about your role and change your story. Getting caught in a lie is a guaranteed lynch, and you really didn't give the town much choice other than to vote for you.

Plus, you clearly did not think this strategy through. Why would the mafia immediately attack you at night when it looks to everyone like you're immune to night kills?

Really? Just yesterday you seemed to agree with my line of thought, that since I survived an attack, I MUST be lynched no matter what I say. Oh well. And though you claim I clearly did not think it through, then let is just return to where you, among others (myself inlcuded) would expect me to be lynched no matter what. Given that this is what I can look forward to then there are two outcomes; either death by lynch, or Death by night kill.. I pick to 'enhance' the chance to get night killed, as that is really the only sensible choice. I can only agree that to lie is a bad thing for a townie to do, but it would be hard to claim that this case in anything standard. The only reason that I was not lynched yesterday, was because of the dim chance that I might have been a power role.
.. I suppose I reply to such a statement because I take it a bit personal .

anyway I am done defending myself. I might still follow the game though, once I am dead :)

[TinCow]

Really? Just yesterday you seemed to agree with my line of thought, that since I survived an attack, I MUST be lynched no matter what I say. Oh well. And though you claim I clearly did not think it through, then let is just return to where you, among others (myself inlcuded) would expect me to be lynched no matter what. Given that this is what I can look forward to then there are two outcomes; either death by lynch, or Death by night kill.. I pick to 'enhance' the chance to get night killed, as that is really the only sensible choice. I can only agree that to lie is a bad thing for a townie to do, but it would hard to claim that this case in anything standard. The only reason that I was not lynched yesterday, was because of the dim chance that I might have been a power role.
.. I suppose I reply to such a statement because I take it a bit personal .

anyway I am done defending myself. I might still follow the game though, once I am dead :)

The point is that, if you are a townie, you succeeded in making things even more distracting for the town. By fighting the lynch with a lie, you were inevitably going to make yourself lynch bait in future rounds. If you were resigned to death and only wanted to minimize the distraction to the town, you should have let yourself get lynched yesterday.

[TheLastDays]

The point is that, if you are a townie, you succeeded in making things even more distracting for the town. By fighting the lynch with a lie, you were inevitably going to make yourself lynch bait in future rounds. If you were resigned to death and only wanted to minimize the distraction to the town, you should have let yourself get lynched yesterday.

Well, to be fair, it was me who started the "rescue mission" to GE which might have been a mistake in retrospect but at the point I just thought there were better targets on D1 than a potential power role.

[Zack]

@ Captain blackadder: You really suspect a serial killer now ? I thought that the common accepted truth was that it was a third party attacking me, given the ' I don't care if you are good or evil ' . But you believe that is the mafia that attacked me ?

One would assume that there is more than one third-party player.

[Riedquat]

Vote: God Emperor

FoS: SoulBlade for not bolding his vote!

[thefluffyone93]

vote: fluffy
Seems too fluffy as already stated

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/ur-doin-it-wrong.jpg?t=1312384121

[Romanic]

14 God Emperor (Zack, Renata, GH, Beskar, Earthling, Khazaar, Warman, glyphz, DIY, Capt Blackadder, Ironside, JHT, classical, Riedquat)
3 woad&fangs (dcmort, Believer, woad&fangs)
3 White_Eyes (Yaropolk, Diamondeye, Reenk)
3 Fluffy (God Emperor**, Romanic, Double A)
2 Chaotix (White_Eyes, Seon)
2 Romanic (Fluffy, autolycus)
1 Earthling (TLD)
1 Ironside (ATPG)
1 Believer (Chaotix)
1 autolycus (GH)
1 TheLastDays (Diamondeye)
1 ATPG (robbiecon)
1 robbiecon (Andres)
---
1 not voting (SoulBlade**)

** Notes:
#413 - unvote; vote: DE by God Emperor is invalid (some bold missing)
#423 - vote: Fluffy by God Emperor is invalid (no bold)

[Yaropolk]

About revealing to me - townie networks are dangerous - think twice if you're not better off remaining the shadows protector o' mine.


Night is almost upon us, so this deserves to be posted publicly. Despite the warning I put up above, some people contacted me. I don't really think it's a wise move but as it stands I reluctantly ended up at the center of a small network. Nobody knows who anyone else is, and I'd like to keep it that way. If you're a neutral role willing to work with town or a townie role who believes that I am innocent and want to contribute without knowing identity of the others then drop me a line. I will not be sharing your identity with anyone either.

[Romanic]

We'll see what we'll see about God Emperor, unless the lynch won't reveal his alignment.

Can we petition the host for a clear death reveal?

/signed :smug2:

[thefluffyone93]

14 God Emperor (Zack, Renata, GH, Beskar, Earthling, Khazaar, Warman, glyphz, DIY, Capt Blackadder, Ironside, JHT, classical, Riedquat)


Omega Bandwagon ACTIVATE!

[White_eyes:D]

I think the bandwagon on GE has only been surpassed in Capo 3.:laugh4:

Edit:Of course that had 2x the players but whatever.:shrug:

[Riedquat]

14 God Emperor (Zack, Renata, GH, Beskar, Earthling, Khazaar, Warman, glyphz, DIY, Capt Blackadder, Ironside, JHT, classical, Riedquat)
3 woad&fangs (dcmort, Believer, woad&fangs)
3 White_Eyes (Yaropolk, Diamondeye, Reenk)
3 Fluffy (God Emperor**, Romanic, Double A)
2 Chaotix (White_Eyes, Seon)
2 Romanic (Fluffy, autolycus)
1 Earthling (TLD)
1 Ironside (ATPG)
1 Believer (Chaotix)
1 autolycus (GH)
1 TheLastDays (Diamondeye)
1 ATPG (robbiecon)
1 robbiecon (Andres)
---
1 not voting (SoulBlade**)

** Notes:
#413 - unvote; vote: DE by God Emperor is invalid (some bold missing)
#423 - vote: Fluffy by God Emperor is invalid (no bold)

Errrr.... not that it will change anything...

[SoulBlade]

Oh, I've been too busy these days, I've even forgot how to vote!

vote: fluffly

[Romanic]

Revised tally, thanks Riedquat.

13 God Emperor (Zack, Renata, Beskar, Earthling, Khazaar, Warman, glyphz, DIY, Capt Blackadder, Ironside, JHT, classical, Riedquat)
4 Fluffy (God Emperor**, Romanic, Double A, SoulBlade)
3 woad&fangs (dcmort, Believer, woad&fangs)
2 White_Eyes (Yaropolk, Reenk)
2 Chaotix (White_Eyes, Seon)
2 Romanic (Fluffy, autolycus)
1 Earthling (TLD)
1 Ironside (ATPG)
1 Believer (Chaotix)
1 autolycus (GH)
1 TheLastDays (Diamondeye)
1 ATPG (robbiecon)
1 robbiecon (Andres)
---
2 not voting (choxorn, Secura)

** Notes:
#413 - unvote; vote: DE by God Emperor is invalid (some bold missing)

[seireikhaan]

Round over. If you want, I'll take early orders.

[Diamondeye]

Romanic, I am pretty sure GE was not trying to move his vote. the "unvote, vote" are unbolded on purpose as they are a noun in context... They refer to my unvoting of GE and vote for someone else (TLD).


That's a rather unexpected Unovte; vote , DE ! What happened to the 'let's not waste the phase' ? . Could you please just tell a bit about what you are thinking, when unvoting me? :)

This I suppose goes for many who does not vote me but goes for the lurkers. There can be no doubt that all seem perfectly satisfied with me being lynched.. That ofc includes the mafia ^^ But just to vote someone else to avoid a run away bandwagon, but without questioning anybody ? That is not really leading anywhere as far as I can see.
I am sorry to say so, but this is one big wasted phase =/

I was pretty sure you were going to be lynched and TLD struck me as scummy for the same reasons others (TC I believe) mentioned.


although futile it is to go over the points that I have not responded to (though I thought I had) I might still give it another shot.

Question A, which concerns, as to how I survived, I already said in the post, that was posted just before dawn of the second phase, I have no clue. I am sorry if you want a better answer; I know nothing more about the 'why' I survived, than any of you do.

Question B. Why did I say that I was uncertain if a role reveal was a good idea, If I did not even have a role: again I will direct you to the post that was posted prior to day phase 2. It is a simple case of cost/benefit. Given that I was doomed to be lynched, since I survived the night attack, the best I could do was to make it as appealing for the mafia to kill me, as possible, rather than having to waste a day phase in kangaroo court. It should all be in my previous posts, if you really care :p (!)


@ Captain blackadder: You really suspect a serial killer now ? I thought that the common accepted truth was that it was a third party attacking me, given the ' I don't care if you are good or evil ' . But you believe that is the mafia that attacked me ?

If you really wanted to give your best shot at having the Mafia attack you, and you were ready to lynch, why not outright claim something dangerous, like Vigilante or Detective? That would certainly paint a bigger target on you than the scummy "maybe I'll reveal later" which basically guaranteed your lynch. If you still survived the night and figured the town should lynch you, you could just go "I lied, I'm not a detective, I'm an ordinary townie" and this would probably have happened anyway.

[seireikhaan]

"And so, everyone convinced of God Emperor's guilt, they sent him to kneel before their lord, several holding him down in a kneeling position," the elderly man continued. "God Emperor insisted down to the very end that he was an ordinary servant of their lord, but the mob refused to believe him, on account of his earlier escape at night. Mainyu, for his part, was actually a bit impressed with everyone for their decisiveness, and he took his sword from its sheath. With a quick stroke, he took off God Emperor's head. After that, he dismissed the group once more for the night."

"So, Granpa, did anyone know if he really was a bad man? Did he tell anything?"

"Oh, certainly not, pumpkin. Its not as though everyone has a grand speech where they explain their dastardly deeds before they die. No, no, everyone was pretty much completely in the dark for a long, long while....."



IT IS NOW OFFICIALLY NIGHT 2. ORDERS WITHIN 24 HOURS, PLEASE.


13 God Emperor (Zack, Renata, Beskar, Earthling, Khazaar, Warman, glyphz, DIY, Capt Blackadder, Ironside, JHT, classical, Riedquat)
4 Fluffy (SoulBlade, God Emperor, Romanic, Double A)
3 woad&fangs (dcmort, Believer, woad&fangs)
2 White_Eyes (Yaropolk, Reenk)
2 Chaotix (White_Eyes, Seon)
2 Romanic (Fluffy, autolycus)
1 Earthling (TLD)
1 Ironside (ATPG)
1 Believer (Chaotix)
1 autolycus (GH)
1 TheLastDays (Diamondeye)
1 ATPG (robbiecon)
1 robbiecon (Andres)
---
2 not voting (choxorn, Secura)


Alive: 34

Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Believer
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Choxorn
Classical Hero
Dcmort
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Double A
Earthling
Fluffy
Johnhughthom
GeneralHankerchief
Glyphz
Ironside
Khazaar
Reenk
Renata
Riedquat
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
SoulBlade
TheLastDays
Warman
Woad&fangs
White Eyes
Yaropolk
Zach



Killed: 4

TinCow (N1)
Tratorix (N1)
Visorslash (N1)
B_ray (N2)

Lynched: 2

Arjos (D1)
God Emperor (D2)

[White_eyes:D]

Your a EVIL EVIL man Khaan.:brood::laugh4:

[Zack]

I think the bandwagon on GE has only been surpassed in Capo 3.:laugh4:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131244-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-Information-Thread&p=2053226459&viewfull=1#post2053226459

[dcmort93]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131244-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-Information-Thread&p=2053226459&viewfull=1#post2053226459I remember that, good times good times. Also take note I was innocent that game. Most superwagons end up lynching innocents people

[Zack]

Most superwagons end up lynching innocents people
Well, obviously. Most people are innocent; it would logically follow that most lynches are that of innocents.

[Renata]

Indeed they mostly do.

[White_eyes:D]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131244-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-Information-Thread&p=2053226459&viewfull=1#post2053226459 Oh man, I wish I was there for that...sadly my comp broke and I had to buy a new one. I wonder what he was thinking with over 95% of the votes on him.:book:

[dcmort93]

I was thinking the whole rest of the town were being a bunch of idiots personally. I'll site this post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-Concluded&p=2053226681&viewfull=1#post2053226681)

[White_eyes:D]

I was ROFL laughing not only at your post but Sasaki's that Zack quoted.:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

I think he nailed that situation perfectly.:clown:

[Double A]

I'm very evil and I like it.

Diana's probably swooning right now.

Of course, so am I.

[Choxorn]

Unless you have a game with a lot of mafias and lynch immunities- I've seen a couple with more anti-townies being lynched than townies. (I'm looking at you, Camikaze's LOTR game)

Oh, and sorry for not being around yesterday, my internet decided to be a :daisy: and disconnected while I was reading the thread, and then I forgot about it. :embarassed:

[Diamondeye]

Diana's probably swooning right now.

Of course, so am I.

"I am the Black Mage, I cast the spells that make the peoples fall down"?

[seireikhaan]

Round is going to be delayed 12 hours. Not feeling very awesome this morning, and writeups at noon will have to stop soon anyways.

[TheLastDays]

Can you tell approx. where the deadline will fall?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Am I still alive :clown:?

[Double A]

Am I still alive :clown:?

Only if you make your name legible.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Good one A :laugh:.

[Believer]

Can you tell approx. where the deadline will fall?

I think the deadline is at 22:00 CET.

[Renata]

Can't be, that's already past, isn't it? I think it's at midnight my time, far too late to wait up for.

[seireikhaan]

Sorry. New deadline is in seven hours, at midnight eastern US, or 4:00 GMT.

[Believer]

Sorry. New deadline is in seven hours, at midnight eastern US, or 4:00 GMT.

Aww, now TLD has to wait another 7 hours to see if his kill was blocked again. :(

[TheLastDays]

Aww, now TLD has to wait another 7 hours to see if his kill was blocked again. :(

Yeah I'm kinda edgy about that... evil roleblockers...
If what you claim is actually true and someone blocked me last night it's very nice of you to give the real killer a heads up that all he has to do now is refrain from killing again to get me lynched :wink:

[Tratorix]

Yeah I'm kinda edgy about that... evil roleblockers...
If what you claim is actually true and someone blocked me last night it's very nice of you to give the real killer a heads up that all he has to do now is refrain from killing again to get me lynched :wink:

Nice. Set up your WIFOM argument before it would even be necessary. you're good at this. :laugh4:

[seireikhaan]

Ok, let's take a whack at the clock. Orders due in...




Thar we go. :2thumbsup:

[Believer]

Yeah I'm kinda edgy about that... evil roleblockers...
If what you claim is actually true and someone blocked me last night it's very nice of you to give the real killer a heads up that all he has to do now is refrain from killing again to get me lynched :wink:

By blocked I meant protected by a doctor. But nice WIFOM.

[TheLastDays]

Oh you think I'm the pearly lady. I thought you were implying I was the axe guy who attacked GE N1 and then defended him all D1, almost getting myself lynched in the process.

But I'm not that ladylike and I don't buy your claim that you are actually believing what you say Mr. Believer. No, Sir, the vibes I am getting from you feel like someone who tried to privately pull me to his side and has now realised his efforts were in vain. More on that tomorrow. Just so much: Should I die tonight, you'll know where to look, town.

[thefluffyone93]

AND SUDDENLY.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaOVDC3aGKo&feature=related

[Believer]

Oh you think I'm the pearly lady. I thought you were implying I was the axe guy who attacked GE N1 and then defended him all D1, almost getting myself lynched in the process.

But I'm not that ladylike and I don't buy your claim that you are actually believing what you say Mr. Believer. No, Sir, the vibes I am getting from you feel like someone who tried to privately pull me to his side and has now realised his efforts were in vain. More on that tomorrow. Just so much: Should I die tonight, you'll know where to look, town.

You are too funny for mafia TLD, you really are.
I pulled you aside in private and you gave me some VERY scummy comments, this is why I'm going to vote you off. Trying to ridicule my attempts will not dissuade me, I'm quite certain you're scum by now. If someone comes up with even more compelling arguments against someone else, I will perhaps postpone your death 1 more phase.

[Double A]

I think we should all lynch the fourth wall so we can ask the guy telling the story who the mafia are.

[thefluffyone93]

I think we should all lynch the fourth wall so we can ask the guy telling the story who the mafia are.

What, are you Deadpool or something?

[Chaotix]

Oh, please do get into a troll argument.

Rarely do I get to see a conversation where both participants are trolls.

[thefluffyone93]

Oh, please do get into a troll argument.

Rarely do I get to see a conversation where both participants are trolls.

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/austin-1.png?t=1312510529

[Askthepizzaguy]

TheFluffyOne makes me feel moist.

Which is good, because a dry and brittle pizza just tastes nasty.

[thefluffyone93]

TheFluffyOne makes me feel moist.

Which is good, because a dry and brittle pizza just tastes nasty.


TheFluffyOne makes me feel moist.

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/cannot_be_unseen.jpg?t=1312512417

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm trying to go 3/3 in your sig.

[thefluffyone93]

..............
Now I think I have a filthy, FILTHY signature.
And I LIKE IT!

[seireikhaan]

No more orders. Writeups in progress.

[Choxorn]

I love this thread so much.

[Arjos]

Indeed, I check now and then for fluffy's posts just for the laughs :D

[classical_hero]

I love this thread so much.You're doing it wrong.
https://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8340/catcatskittenkittypicpi.jpg

[seireikhaan]

Yaropolk decided it was time to stop taking chances. No more night time strolls down the streets, no sir. After his narrow escape, he holed himself up in his accommodations. Even hearing a polite knock on the door, Yaropolk shook his head violently, and stayed in his corner. A second round of knocks came, a bit more forceful this time. Still, he stayed put. Maybe twenty seconds later, a faint light shone through the bottom of the door. The door shifted colors, from dark brown to a pale yellow. A similarly colored mist began seeping into the room, blocking the door frame from view. Yaropolk heard footsteps. A oddly foreign man stepped into the room, dressed in a glittering, dark green robe, with a dark moustache and beard hanging from his chin. He looked quite calm, and did not seem armed. He held a hand out to Yaropolk. Yaropolk reached up for it. A longsword materialized in the man's hand, and he whipped it around on Yaropolk's outstretched arm. To his credit, Yaropolk managed to recoil quickly enough to only be nicked. The man in green brought the sword down with his right hand. Yaropolk just managed to roll out of the way, and began to break for the mist. He made a lunge for where he assumed the door would be. In midair, he saw, as though time slowed down, the man in green effortlessly made the turn and brought the sword down straight into his path. He closed his eyes, cringing for the coming blow....


It was not the blow he expected. He fell to the ground awkwardly, where the door used to be. He scrambled up, to witness that his heroine had once more intercepted a blow. Her spear had glanced against the man in green's sword, deflecting its path. She now stood just inside the door frame, separating the attacker from victim. She lowered her stance, keeping her shield held across in a defensive stance. The attacker's pleasant face hardened visibly. He held his left hand to the sword's hilt. As the two fighters stared each other down, Yaropolk made a break for it down the street. The man in green sighed. He closed his eyes, and with a faint pop, he vanished.




Zack scratched his head. He wasn't really sure how he'd ended up out here. He found himself out near the crimson barrier, west of the palace. He shrugged. There had to be some place to settle for the night. He turned around, back to the dark street. In the distance, he could make out a figure walking his direction. It looked like... a human. A comically humongous human, wielding an equally comic axe, which may have been four times the size of a normal war axe. For a human, he seemed to make his way down the street with such a monster well. He picked up at a sprint towards Zack, who raised an eyebrow in alarm. Zack jumped back as the axe came down in front of him. The head crunched into the street. Zack was already on a sprint past the man. The man wheeled about, giving chase. Zack took a hard right into an alley, just avoiding a second chance at being cleaved. The man gave chase down the alley, but the it twisted like a gnarled branch in several directions, with Zack nowhere to be seen.




A very relaxed Reenk Roink was sitting in the middle of the one room shack he'd been assigned. If the time was come, the time was come, was his rational. He had not even locked his door. In the meanwhile, he figured, he would enjoy a drink or two. The knob to his door twisted, and Reenk did not look perturbed when a woman in bronze scale covered with a purple, satin dress entered through the frame, a saber in her right hand.


“Hello, m'lady,” Reenk said. He held up his cup. “Would you like a drink?”


“I think not, peasant. All I want tonight is your head.”


“Aww. That's a shame. Please, I insist.” Reenk reached over, and yanked on a rope laying to his right. The woman looked surprised for a second, following the path of tension of the rope mentally. Tugged rope leading to pully at base of the door on her left, going straight up to another pully at the top side of the frame, leading to another pully halfway across the frame, leading to a bucket which tipped over. And so came a downpour of drink, similar to that which Reenk held in his hand, drenching the woman.


“AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!!!” She howled in rage, while Reenk howled in laughter, and in an instant, she held her saber across his neck, and separated his head from the rest of him without hesitation. She stormed from the house in a rage, grasping the dress with clenched fingers.








A woman stood at the door to a dark house. She knocked softly. The door was cracked open, and the inhabitant peered out. The person's eyes widen at the scantily clad figure before them.


“Please, my lovely... will you let me in?” The door opened a bit more, and the inhabitant ushered her in. Her way clear, she aggressively walked up to her host. “My lovely,” she whispered, stretching a finger across their chest. “Offer me support, and I will reward you beyond your imagination. Gifts of lapis lazuli, a golden chariot, steeds the envy of the world. She turned her head slightly, showing off her lengthy, raven hair. “Well, my dear?” An eager nod greeted her question, and she allowed herself to be led further into the house for the night....


IT IS NOW DAY PHASE.




Alive: 33

Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Believer
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Choxorn
Classical Hero
Dcmort
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Double A
Earthling
Fluffy
Johnhughthom
GeneralHankerchief
Glyphz
Ironside
Khazaar
Renata
Riedquat
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
SoulBlade
TheLastDays
Warman
Woad&fangs
White Eyes
Yaropolk
Zach



Killed: 5

TinCow (N1)
Tratorix (N1)
Visorslash (N1)
B_ray (N2)
Reenk Roink (N3)

Lynched: 2

Arjos (D1)
God Emperor (D2)

[Double A]

Oh, please do get into a troll argument.

Rarely do I get to see a conversation where both participants are trolls.

Wait, since when was I a troll?

[Zack]

I'm going to come out and say up front, that I'm a vanilla townie, and I suspect God Emperor was also one.

Therefore, it seems clear that the big guy with the axe is incompetent when it comes to killing people.

Or, seeing how Yarapolk also survived, perhaps there is a mechanic involved which gives an x% chance of surviving night attacks.

[Tratorix]

I'm going to come out and say up front, that I'm a vanilla townie, and I suspect God Emperor was also one.

Therefore, it seems clear that the big guy with the axe is incompetent when it comes to killing people.

Or, seeing how Yarapolk also survived, perhaps there is a mechanic involved which gives an x% chance of surviving night attacks.

Yaropolk was protected by his guardian angel yet again. I can't believe someone actually took another shot at him. It also seemed seemed to be a so far unseen attacker. One of the angels also didn't attack anyone, although that could be the person who seemingly recruited someone. I'm starting to feel glad to be dead. :dizzy:

[Visor]

I'm glad you're dead too.

[Tratorix]

I'm glad you're dead too.

Walked right into that one... just like you walked right into my lance. :evil:

[Visor]

And then got owned by the pearly lady...

MY HERO! :D

[Tratorix]

And then got owned by the pearly lady...

MY HERO! :D

I love how many people in this game are literally cheering the mafia on because of how the night 1 kills worked out. I couldn't have written a funnier start. :laugh4:

[Double A]

I'm going to come out and say up front, that I'm a vanilla townie, and I suspect God Emperor was also one.

Therefore, it seems clear that the big guy with the axe is incompetent when it comes to killing people.

Or, seeing how Yarapolk also survived, perhaps there is a mechanic involved which gives an x% chance of surviving night attacks.

Considering that saying so will likely result in a scan of you, and that there was no one else mentioned in the write up, you're probably right, unless there's a hidden special ability some vanilla townies have that lets them survive a nightkill (which seems pretty damn unlikely). But like you said, it could be a percentage too.

What's most likely is that every night killer has a different chance to kill, considering the size of the game.

Of course, Yaro was protected, so this might all be moot and it's only JRPG Ax that has the chance of failure.

[TheLastDays]

Yes, I don't think the Mafia has a percentage chance to kill. We never saw their kills fail like the guy with the axe. We only saw them protected against, tow times, both on Yaropolk.

The green man who attacked him is a new killer so it seems like one of the AFK Mafia returned while the pearly lady took a break this round. Someone suggested to me that the Mafia team might be limited to two kills per night even though their team consists of more members. I dismissed the idea at first because it wasn't like that in Netherworld 1 + 2 but last night's events suggest this might actually be the case.

The saber lady is back again, making another kill. Our only regular to have killed in all nights.

The axe guy is back again and he fails again. This is either a role that cannot kill for a while but has to get in a series of failed attempts to unlock new powers or it's what everyone suggested and there's a percentage chance for them to kill. Poor unlucky soul. The attempt tonight gives G_E's claims credibility but what can you do.

[Diamondeye]

Yes, I don't think the Mafia has a percentage chance to kill. We never saw their kills fail like the guy with the axe. We only saw them protected against, tow times, both on Yaropolk.

The green man who attacked him is a new killer so it seems like one of the AFK Mafia returned while the pearly lady took a break this round. Someone suggested to me that the Mafia team might be limited to two kills per night even though their team consists of more members. I dismissed the idea at first because it wasn't like that in Netherworld 1 + 2 but last night's events suggest this might actually be the case.

What. That was exactly how it worked in Netherworld II.

Also, cults! Fun!

[TheLastDays]

I misread it then. I thought you all had one kill in Netherworld II. It was definitely like that in Netherworld I.

[Double A]

Maybe he has no actual ability and is just sending in an order to provide an alibi for the entire game.