Large Mafia Game Netherworld III: Final Judgment [Concluded] [Archive] - Page 3

Death is yonder

08-05-2011, 11:49

A woman stood at the door to a dark house. She knocked softly. The door was cracked open, and the inhabitant peered out. The person's eyes widen at the scantily clad figure before them.

“Please, my lovely... will you let me in?” The door opened a bit more, and the inhabitant ushered her in. Her way clear, she aggressively walked up to her host. “My lovely,” she whispered, stretching a finger across their chest. “Offer me support, and I will reward you beyond your imagination. Gifts of lapis lazuli, a golden chariot, steeds the envy of the world. She turned her head slightly, showing off her lengthy, raven hair. “Well, my dear?” An eager nod greeted her question, and she allowed herself to be led further into the house for the night....

Either someone got converted by a cult, or someone's vote was bought for the day.

I'm going to come out and say up front, that I'm a vanilla townie, and I suspect God Emperor was also one.

Therefore, it seems clear that the big guy with the axe is incompetent when it comes to killing people.

Possible, but too soon to jump to conclusions. With only two incidents witnessed so far, coming to conclusions would be hasty. Moreover, even if there were %chances of killing by default, and you happened to survive (if you were a basic townie), what's stopping GE (as scum) from having an even higher chance of surviving?

I would frankly be kinda shocked at his scummy behavior yesterday, and would be surprised if the numerous inconsistencies and attempted subtle nudging in different directions was due to a panicked townie trying to survive.

Also there's two possible ways to interpret the write up in my opinion. One, that you evaded death out of your own skill (which most certainly doesn't clear you), or two, that the killer simply failed, due to whatever reason, which doesn't really tell us much.

In any case, its just simply too soon to arrive at a conclusion.

Vote: TLD

Hello.

Andres

08-05-2011, 12:19

Considering that saying so will likely result in a scan of you, and that there was no one else mentioned in the write up, you're probably right, unless there's a hidden special ability some vanilla townies have that lets them survive a nightkill (which seems pretty damn unlikely). But like you said, it could be a percentage too.

What's most likely is that every night killer has a different chance to kill, considering the size of the game.

Of course, Yaro was protected, so this might all be moot and it's only JRPG Ax that has the chance of failure.

This post rubs me the wrong way.

Andres

08-05-2011, 12:21

Vote : Double A

Andres

08-05-2011, 12:22

Maybe he has no actual ability and is just sending in an order to provide an alibi for the entire game.

Why would a player with no ability send in orders and then appear in the write-up?

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 12:49

Vote: TLD

Hello.

Vote: DiY

Let me think.

Believer

08-05-2011, 13:20

Vote: DiY

Let me think.

You had time to think yesterday when we talked in private.

Vote: TLD

Captain Blackadder

08-05-2011, 13:40

Vote double A

All that maybe and possibly make me think that is a mafia trying to appear town when in fact he has p.i.s. Most likely is the one that screams for me since when he is proven correct in his ideas he can say he told us all

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 13:44

Believer

08-05-2011, 14:29

Yep, that's true, I had time to think about that.

Now I have a few questions for you, Believer:

1) Why have you even contacted me in private? We never really talked in private before this game, even when we were king and champion in Midgard we didn't have much contact. Now, at the beginning of this game, you asked me for my IM and contacted me to be able to pass some information by the other players which was suspicios to me in and of itself. Why? Why the sudden need to talk to me?

I had contact with ATPG in the Midgard game where you were my champion. ATPG revealed early to me that he thought one of the champions would be Jotun, based on his game mechanics knowledge and hosting knowledge. I believed him and for most of the time saw you as the scummiest, you were very close to be voted off on several occasions.
As to why I asked for your IM this game it was for 2 reasons.

1. I wanted to pressure you because I think you're behaving oddly.

2. I was bored, ATPG isn't online much at all these days which leaves only Renata I talk to quite frequently. I need more stimulus if I'm to play mafia. Also I enjoy speaking german from time to time.

2) Your vote on Arjos on D1.

At this point, iirc, Arjos was in the lead by 2 and you came in placing your vote. I was not in real danger anymore until maybe the end of the round where there were a few votes bein placed on me again but at the point of your vote you could not know this would happen. Yet you made an effort, privately, to point out to me that you saved me and expected me to make good use of it.

3) On D2 you go with a joke vote, referring to a joke vote by someone else.

Why? I understand the sentiment of pressuring other people than the leading wagon on GE if the wagon is far in the lead already but why go for a joke vote that accomplishes exactly nothing?

This I feel is almost the same point, so I'll address them together.
GE "won" that day's lynch by about... 13 votes? A joke vote is as good as anything, regardless of the reason I give it's still a vote and pressure is being applied if it's anywhere close to the lead.

4) You seem more silent to me than in Music Mafa, that's a weak point though as I don't really know your usual playstyle yet.

As Renata pointed out to me privately yesterday; I started my first game on the .Org as a doubtless townie (or genious mafia, but that wasn't the case) and have only grown to be more scummy. I don't know if it's my playstyle that has changed or if it's her perception of my playstyle but to this day I have never been mafia, so you can't really say it's my Modus Operandi.

5) This point ties right in with points 1) and 2). You starte rolefishing to me yesterday, pressuring me to reveal my ability to you. When I told you, truthfully, that I did not have any ability you called me a liar and proclaimed that you'd vote for me today. Fair enough if your vote were based on anything but your personal feeling that I was lying but, as I stated yesterday, I don't buy your claim that you don't believe me. What I think is you tried to flatter me and "get me to your side" because for scum it's always good to have town supporters. When you realised this wouldn't work out you just decided to turn on me but please tell me now, what is the case on me? I'd surely be interested in seeing that.

I do not believe that you are town, and if you are you have put yourself at some serious disadvantage from our conversation yesterday.

1. You told me that I shouldn't trust anyone else unless I trust you. That's saying I shouldn't network at all and if I do I should only do it with you, atleast start with you. Why are you so concerned that I don't talk to other people?

2. You were reluctant to answer questions about what you think of other people.

3. You don't trust Yaropolk, even though he is the most confirmed townie right now.

6) I'd like to know if Renata told you that I asked Yaropolk to let a scanner take a look at you. I wonder why the pearly lady didn't show up last night.

Nope. I don't understand why you would even take the risk of telling her, even though she did not reveal that information to me. I'm curious as to why you did it though.

This is the first real pressure you're taking in this game and you're making a case on the guy who's accusing you, serious OMGUS going on at the same time you're just putting yourself in a deeper hole.

unvote, vote: Believer

TLD is the best candidate for today that I can see.

Arjos

08-05-2011, 14:31

You are all mafia for talking privately in the shadows! XD

Andres

08-05-2011, 15:12

1)
Lastly, its a guilty pleasure of mine to confuse players, particularly pro-town networks. Make sure to take care of who you trust.

2) If this game is going to be decided by some pro-town network that discusses things in private and decides the game by voting in block, then it will be very boring for those not included in the pro-town network.

3) Pro-town networks haven't helped town much in previous games.

4) Pro-town networks get infiltrated all the time.

5) Pro-town network = BORING.

Double A is more interesting.

Diamondeye

08-05-2011, 15:25

This post rubs me the wrong way.

Agreed. Vote: AA

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 15:26

I had contact with ATPG in the Midgard game where you were my champion. ATPG revealed early to me that he thought one of the champions would be Jotun, based on his game mechanics knowledge and hosting knowledge. I believed him and for most of the time saw you as the scummiest, you were very close to be voted off on several occasions.
As to why I asked for your IM this game it was for 2 reasons.

What you say regarding Midgard: Possible, since you were town there I'll believe that but after I turned up as town there you should have gotten the hint that this is just how I play.

1. I wanted to pressure you because I think you're behaving oddly.

2. I was bored, ATPG isn't online much at all these days which leaves only Renata I talk to quite frequently. I need more stimulus if I'm to play mafia. Also I enjoy speaking german from time to time.

Ever played Civilization V? When you massed your army near an opponent's border you'd get an inquiry from them, asking if you were about to attack. Most often I hit "No, my soldiers are just passing through the area." The answer to that was: "A likely story."

That's how I feel with this.

It's possible but probably it's a lie because you asked for my IM before I ever said much in the game and you also only learned that I am from Austria when I gave you my messenger handle.

This I feel is almost the same point, so I'll address them together.
GE "won" that day's lynch by about... 13 votes? A joke vote is as good as anything, regardless of the reason I give it's still a vote and pressure is being applied if it's anywhere close to the lead.

This is not the same point and you only addressed point 3! Answer number 2) please!

As Renata pointed out to me privately yesterday; I started my first game on the .Org as a doubtless townie (or genious mafia, but that wasn't the case) and have only grown to be more scummy. I don't know if it's my playstyle that has changed or if it's her perception of my playstyle but to this day I have never been mafia, so you can't really say it's my Modus Operandi.

A likely story.

I do not believe that you are town, and if you are you have put yourself at some serious disadvantage from our conversation yesterday.

1. You told me that I shouldn't trust anyone else unless I trust you. That's saying I shouldn't network at all and if I do I should only do it with you, atleast start with you. Why are you so concerned that I don't talk to other people?

2. You were reluctant to answer questions about what you think of other people.

3. You don't trust Yaropolk, even though he is the most confirmed townie right now.

Now this is probably the worst part of your argument because you are blatantly lieing and twisting my words here. I see no reason for you to do that if you are town so I have to assume that my suspicion of you is correct and you are scum.

1. I have never discouraged you of networking or talking to other people not in the slightest. And I have explicitly told you to not trust me, telling you that your job, as a townie, is to not trust people.

2. I was reluctant because I am suspecting you to be scum.

3. I never specifically stated I don't trust Yaropolk. What I recall is telling you that I try to not trust anyone to the point where I can't suspect them anymore.

Nope. I don't understand why you would even take the risk of telling her, even though she did not reveal that information to me. I'm curious as to why you did it though.

Because at that point I wasn't convinced of you being scum and I tried to figure out if I should even bother accusing you. That's why I sought her counsel.

This is the first real pressure you're taking in this game and you're making a case on the guy who's accusing you, serious OMGUS going on at the same time you're just putting yourself in a deeper hole.

Wrong. There was much more heat on me on D1 when I defended GE. Actually, as scum, why would I ever do that?

Also you haven't even accused me. Two votes on me. One says: "Hello." The other says "You had enough time to think".
Splendid case, where can I learn to make these? No, you are the one attacking the one who accuses you.

You are all mafia for talking privately in the shadows! XD

That's an interesting point. Can you elaborate on that? Wait... I hear you've been lynched? Then I decline :clown:

thefluffyone93

08-05-2011, 15:58

GAH.....
WALLS OF TEXTS...EVERYWHERE...
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/troll.png

Believer

08-05-2011, 16:07

Ever played Civilization V? When you massed your army near an opponent's border you'd get an inquiry from them, asking if you were about to attack. Most often I hit "No, my soldiers are just passing through the area." The answer to that was: "A likely story."

That's how I feel with this.

I have not played that game and I don't understand your analogy.

It's possible but probably it's a lie because you asked for my IM before I ever said much in the game and you also only learned that I am from Austria when I gave you my messenger handle.

Your IM is in your profile, I know the country code for Austria but I always ask people's permission first. Ask any of Renata/ATPG/Romanic/GE if I am polite in that regard or not.

This is not the same point and you only addressed point 3! Answer number 2) please!
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2) Your vote on Arjos on D1.

At this point, iirc, Arjos was in the lead by 2 and you came in placing your vote. I was not in real danger anymore until maybe the end of the round where there were a few votes bein placed on me again but at the point of your vote you could not know this would happen. Yet you made an effort, privately, to point out to me that you saved me and expected me to make good use of it.

I don't see a question here to be honest. You're stating things that have happened without any real question. If you want reason I already gave it in my vote on him. If you want reason as to why I told you I saved you was because I talk, alot. Yet again you should ask Renata/Romanic/ATPG/GE to confirm this. That was an attempt to mend fences between us since I no longer see a reason for us to not like eachother. I recall I used smilies in the message, so it can't have been that serious.

Now this is probably the worst part of your argument because you are blatantly lieing and twisting my words here. I see no reason for you to do that if you are town so I have to assume that my suspicion of you is correct and you are scum.

1. I have never discouraged you of networking or talking to other people not in the slightest. And I have explicitly told you to not trust me, telling you that your job, as a townie, is to not trust people.

2. I was reluctant because I am suspecting you to be scum.

3. I never specifically stated I don't trust Yaropolk. What I recall is telling you that I try to not trust anyone to the point where I can't suspect them anymore.

1. Now it is you who is lying.
I can't quote our PM conversation because this is against the rules, so I can't actually prove that I am telling the truth. But in very broad terms you told me to not trust anyone unless I trusted you. You can't get away from this, that is what you said. That contradicts town networking and forces me, in your eyes, to believe you before I can network with anyone else.

2. So you wouldn't answer to pressure? That's just scummy. What would I gain if I was scum and then getting your opinion on Yaropolk?

3. I asked if you trusted Yaropolk and you told me you don't trust anyone. You never mentioned anything about suspecting them.

Also you haven't even accused me. Two votes on me. One says: "Hello." The other says "You had enough time to think".
Splendid case, where can I learn to make these? No, you are the one attacking the one who accuses you.

This is wrong on several levels, and I'll tell you why.
I told you I would vote for you yesterday, that makes your case on me OMGUS since you didn't suspect me earlier.
I have already told you my reasons for wanting you dead, I made it very clear in private and it's very clear in the thread by now aswell.

1. You do not want me networking, why would you not want that?

2. You overreact to very little pressure and seem very tense.

3. You were paranoid in conversations with Renata yesterday, she told me this.

Riedquat

08-05-2011, 16:15

2. You overreact to very little pressure and seem very tense.

Dude, you must be kidding us! :laugh4:

You started the text-walling after a single vote on you!

Believer

08-05-2011, 16:17

Dude, you must be kidding us! :laugh4:

You started the text-walling after a single vote on you!

I'm making a case and he's defending, it has nothing to do with his vote on me or not.

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 16:36

You were not making a case, my friend. And I don't get what you're talking about from our conversation. I never told you to not trust anyone unless you trust me. Quite the contrary. I said it's fine if you don't trust me as long as you don't trust anyone else either.

Yes, I even mentioned myself to Renata that I might be getting paranoid because your talks to me made me feel like you were "flattering" me and trying to pull me to your side and yesterday I wasn't sure if that wasn't paranoia. Now, after you come out with lies and twists of what I said I'm not sure it's being paranoid.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88

08-05-2011, 17:22

Thank God I am still alive :laugh:!

Believer

08-05-2011, 17:34

I never told you to not trust anyone unless you trust me. Quite the contrary. I said it's fine if you don't trust me as long as you don't trust anyone else either.

This is the exact same thing and you admit to it.

Believer

08-05-2011, 17:37

I will be away for the evening eating cancer, so have fun people. Make the right choice.

Edit: I just saw that the deadline is at 04:00 AM my time, I should be able to make an appearance then.

Renata

08-05-2011, 17:55

Now this is probably the worst part of your argument because you are blatantly lieing and twisting my words here. I see no reason for you to do that if you are town so I have to assume that my suspicion of you is correct and you are scum.

I believe Believer here, that his perception at least is honest. He was telling me about all of this yesterday, before he ever went public with it. What he told me is virtually the same words as he used here (except just maybe the Yaropolk bit; i can't quite remember). I believe that you did give him the impression that you meant what he's reported up there. I don't think there's any way he's lying about it outright.

1. I have never discouraged you of networking or talking to other people not in the slightest. And I have explicitly told you to not trust me, telling you that your job, as a townie, is to not trust people.

2. I was reluctant because I am suspecting you to be scum.

3. I never specifically stated I don't trust Yaropolk. What I recall is telling you that I try to not trust anyone to the point where I can't suspect them anymore.

He told me you would not give your opinion on Yaropolk, just looked it up. If what you actually said is something generic along the lines of "well, I don't fully trust anybody obviously", and nothing more, then I agree with Believer that it leans scum, because there's more to say about Yaro than that.

Because at that point I wasn't convinced of you being scum and I tried to figure out if I should even bother accusing you. That's why I sought her counsel.

I think I disagree with Believer on this one. I've been approached inappropriately (hah) by more townies than I can count.

Wrong. There was much more heat on me on D1 when I defended GE. Actually, as scum, why would I ever do that?

Bah, you and everyone stop sayign things like this. It only begs people to think of reasons why you might. In this case: because you know the case against him is bull-spit* and you want to be "right".

Also you haven't even accused me. Two votes on me. One says: "Hello." The other says "You had enough time to think".
Splendid case, where can I learn to make these? No, you are the one attacking the one who accuses you.

In public yes, though he's been on your case in private for days.

*The case was indeed bull-spit to all appearances (Zack), but that doesn't mean it was wrong.

(Looking ahead to Believer's response: I said "paranoid" about TLD? I don't remember that. In what context? ETA: Never mind, TLD provided it himself. I still don't remember.)

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 17:57

This is the exact same thing and you admit to it.

This is not the exact same thing.
The first means: Trust me and then you can trust others.
The second one means: Don't trust me. And don't trust anyone else.

Renata

08-05-2011, 18:01

Erm.

Sorry, Believer, but if that's what TLD said it's not scummy per se, it just doesn't mean much of anything.

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 18:17

I believe Believer here, that his perception at least is honest. He was telling me about all of this yesterday, before he ever went public with it. What he told me is virtually the same words as he used here (except just maybe the Yaropolk bit; i can't quite remember). I believe that you did give him the impression that you meant what he's reported up there. I don't think there's any way he's lying about it outright.

It certainly looks like lying from my perspective but I've been wrong about Believer before and that's part of the reason why I contacted you yesterday.

He told me you would not give your opinion on Yaropolk, just looked it up. If what you actually said is something generic along the lines of "well, I don't fully trust anybody obviously", and nothing more, then I agree with Believer that it leans scum, because there's more to say about Yaro than that.

Of course there is more to say but at that point I was already suspecting him and I'm not discussing a lot of my views with people that are on my suspect list.

Bah, you and everyone stop sayign things like this. It only begs people to think of reasons why you might. In this case: because you know the case against him is bull-spit* and you want to be "right".

Yeah I know it's a stupid comment but then again my statement was more about the fact that there was much more pressure on me on Day 1 than right now.

(Looking ahead to Believer's response: I said "paranoid" about TLD? I don't remember that. In what context? ETA: Never mind, TLD provided it himself. I still don't remember.)

I don't know what you told Believer about our conversation other than what he claimed in here but I told you that I was afraid that my suspicion towards him might come from paranoia.

I'm more and more getting the feeling that this whole case revolves around misunderstandings between me and Believer and I'll go ahead and unvote. There, I just did something that I myself would call out as scummy, only that I know I'm not scum.

Renata

08-05-2011, 18:22

vote: glyphz

Primarily for this:

There's probably a 3 vote lead bet G_E & the next canditate, & at least 10 nonvoters.

Vote: God_Emperor for safe measure...

It looks fake. None of the other bandwagons were remotely serious as "threats" to GE getting lynched, so why the pose? During the night glyphz says GE needs to be lynched if no claim, yet there was a claim, and glyphz didn't comment on it at all, just this fake looking vote.

On day one he put a jokey bandwagon vote on TLD (4th voter), which significance probably depends on what you thnk of GE and TLD.

Earthling

08-05-2011, 18:26

3. You don't trust Yaropolk, even though he is the most confirmed townie right now.

True, but one point unrelated to you/TLD so much but something for the town to discuss - if that one lass is recruiting folks for a cult we have to watch out for Yaropolk easily being a good recruiting opportunity in the future. Otherwise things are still looking good and I don't see the huge complaints about a bit of networking - especially neutral guys like Axman if he is neutral, if you have your own crazy goals but don't want to be on the town's bad side come talk and cooperate now or you know we're not likely to trust you later.

One thing I don't see is see how TLD as a basic townie could presume to ask Yaropolk to have people use their abilities as he wants (TLD said he went to Yaropolk to suggest scan ideas) yet at the same time go on in private about not trusting Yaropolk. That's about all I can get out of Believer/TLD's argument that's new as I had no private contact to confirm what they were saying about each other.

Anyway, I still think GE was a flat-out mafioso and vote: The Last Days is a good call.

Chaotix

08-05-2011, 18:26

Not liking the fact that this round is less than 24 hours. Leaves me only an hour to seriously read the thread after I get home.

Placeholder vote.

Vote: Fluffy

Yaropolk

08-05-2011, 18:33

My completely uninformed $0.02 - no results or anything behind this.

I don't think Mafia would reach their neck out contacting people via PM left and right. TLD and Believer have posted more than enough on here to analyze in later rounds if I'm wrong.

I'm supsicious of ATPG because he is usually hyperactive as a townie and right now he's mum. Renata's suspicion on glyphz is a possibiliy too.

I will vote: ATPG because he can be sly as a fox if he's on the wrong side.

Renata

08-05-2011, 18:34

Of course there is more to say but at that point I was already suspecting him and I'm not discussing a lot of my views with people that are on my suspect list.

Yaro's situation is too public for this to apply. I see no reason you couldn't have given your feelings. You've claimed vanilla town; it's not you've claimed power role to him and feel like you might have some special knowledge to betray, or something.

Renata

08-05-2011, 18:41

BTW my current wild speculation about Axe guy is he's a neutral party who can only kill a specific player or players.

I'm tired of cults and hope that was something different up there.

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 18:42

I already told Renata in private that I get weird vibes from ATPG in this game and pressure on him is very good imo. He has to start talking.

glyphz is a possibility.

I'm going to follow up on something I wanted to pressure during the GE wagon though. Earthling your posts seem weird to me this game.
You went for the case on GE D1 and, even though your posts are often annoying, usually you know better than that.

vote: Earthling

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 18:44

Yaro's situation is too public for this to apply. I see no reason you couldn't have given your feelings. You've claimed vanilla town; it's not you've claimed power role to him and feel like you might have some special knowledge to betray, or something.

I tend to be more careful than necessary obviously. Plus, tbh, I was a bit pissed by the way Believer was behaving to me and that doesn't really make me want to talk about anything.

Earthling

08-05-2011, 18:49

I also think it's either that or the crazy guess is an exceptionally clever sort of scan, making his "results" public each time rather than getting them just for himself. That doesn't sit as well with him skipping a night though but if he never manages a kill at all we'll see.

I'm tired of such females seducing only males and wish that was something different up there.

By the way I do hope you're not a neutral here. I'm rather doubting you're mafia already and once again you're contributing excellent points that help the town but as a third party that could be just enough to get our trust too and help you along. So I'll keep an eye out on that. I would agree with your observation on glyphz being lazy in bandwagonning except since I think his votes ended up on scum I can't really fault that right now.

dcmort93

08-05-2011, 19:00

vote: glyphz

Primarily for this:

It looks fake. None of the other bandwagons were remotely serious as "threats" to GE getting lynched, so why the pose? During the night glyphz says GE needs to be lynched if no claim, yet there was a claim, and glyphz didn't comment on it at all, just this fake looking vote.

On day one he put a jokey bandwagon vote on TLD (4th voter), which significance probably depends on what you thnk of GE and TLD.I can't help but agree with Renata on this so Vote glyphz

GeneralHankerchief

08-05-2011, 20:00

Okay, anyone want to sum up the whole TLD/Believer argument for me? Way too much text for me to read right now.

Romanic

08-05-2011, 20:14

3 TheLastDays (DIY, Believer, Earthling)
3 Double A (Andres, Capt Blackadder, DE)
2 glyphz (Renata, dcmort)
1 Fluffy (Chaotix)
1 ATPG (Yaropolk)
1 Earthling (TLD)
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22 not voting (everyone else)

Earthling

08-05-2011, 20:16

Well, firstly it's worth summarizing that TLD is a good suspect on his own for defending GE, the first day's bandwagon, and general scummy comments. Part of it is that Believer, like others, has a case against him for this and Believer did say he was suspicious of TLD before.

As for the rest, it seems to me it's arguing he said-she said about whatever they discussed in private.

Believer claims he voiced suspicions about TLD to other people. TLD supposedly had been telling people in private to "trust nobody." TLD claims Believer was trying to butter him up and get him to follow his votes and now decided to betray him. Some of the other parties supposedly involved weighed in, about what either TLD or Believer was saying.

In the absence of real solid evidence like a scan this seems like a good case for today, though I can't exactly stop people from voting Double A or glyphz instead, at least if we get more people voting the voting record will still be useful in the long run.

Romanic

08-05-2011, 20:21

vote: Fluffy

It's a serious vote. Memes are fun but not helpful, and Fluffy choose not to contribute differently so I'm happy to force a claim out of him, or even lynch him.

johnhughthom

08-05-2011, 20:21

Vote: glyphz

I believe I have mentioned my penchant for ties on numerous occasions.

Romanic

08-05-2011, 20:24

Vote: glyphz

I believe I have mentioned my penchant for ties on numerous occasions.

You could tie Fluffy to the lead instead. :smug2:

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 20:29

johnhughthom

08-05-2011, 20:29

You could tie Fluffy to the lead instead. :smug2:

You may notice our previous posts were at the same time. I know you think I'm awesome, I didn't realise you believed me to have psychic powers.

unvote, Vote: fluffy

How can I resist such a flattering assumption of mine.

johnhughthom

08-05-2011, 20:31

Woah, maybe you're right Roman. Another crosspost kept the tie... :dizzy2:

:clown:

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 20:37

So we have a four way tie now?

Are you sure you want fluffy lynched Romanic?

Romanic

08-05-2011, 20:42

So we have a four way tie now?

Are you sure you want fluffy lynched Romanic?
Yes it's a 4 way tie at 3 votes, and what kind of question is the 2nd one?

Earthling

08-05-2011, 20:43

The tie isn't going to last with that many people though, so no big deal. glyphz and Double A both have yet to vote and obviously they at least would want to get themselves out of a tie, but even beyond that they the even better chance to vote for someone legitimately scummy and get rid of you.

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 20:44

Sure, go ahead and get rid of me, scum. It's better for you.

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 20:46

Yes it's a 4 way tie at 3 votes, and what kind of question is the 2nd one?

The question is if you'd rather have fluffy lynched then, i.e. glyphz where there is an actual case. Or AA. Or me, for that matter.

GeneralHankerchief

08-05-2011, 20:48

Alright, I'll hop aboard the Fluffy bandwagon. If he's still around in the endgame it'll be an impossible analysis.

Vote: Fluffy

Romanic

08-05-2011, 20:53

The question is if you'd rather have fluffy lynched then, i.e. glyphz where there is an actual case. Or AA. Or me, for that matter.
I'd rather have Fluffy lynched than you, for sure. You and Believer are likely two Townies lashing at each other, as it's usually the case for similar situations. None of you have a good argument against the other (imo) and what was said in private, but not quoted, discussion is hardly significant to me. I've seen how ATPG can distort my sentences when he's Town, in the last game.

glyphz's case is thin, and I'm waiting for him to react, before saying why I disagree. Not going to give him ammo when, if he's scum, he could trip and give himself away with a scummy reply.

As for Double A, bah - the case is built on a choice of words. I could probably pressure Double A as I'm doing with Fluffy, both being spammers.

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 20:54

Alright, unvote, vote: fluffy

Zack

08-05-2011, 21:05

vote: Fluffy

It's a serious vote. Memes are fun but not helpful, and Fluffy choose not to contribute differently so I'm happy to force a claim out of him, or even lynch him.
This is the second day in a row you're trying to get fluffy lynched based on an extremely flimsy, silly case.

Why aren't you trying to search for scum, Romanic? Do you really think fluffy is scum? If not, don't vote for him.

Vote: Romanic

As for fluffy, it would be nice if you actually contribute for once. Romanic has a valid point in that regard. No offense, but posting nothing but memes isn't particularly helpful.

Zack

08-05-2011, 21:06

Who? What case?

Seriously, Earthling 'feels' different this game.

And, just to add 'saving myself' to my scummy actions: unvote, vote: glyphz

Alright, unvote, vote: fluffy
Are you just going to jump on every bandwagon that comes up?

Vote for whom you suspect. Jumping on bandwagons to "save yourself" is pointless this early in the Day.

GeneralHankerchief

08-05-2011, 21:10

Why aren't you trying to search for scum, Romanic? Do you really think fluffy is scum? If not, don't vote for him.

No, it's not searching for scum, but it doesn't make the case any less valid. Think of the Fluffy lynch as clearing away underbrush with a machete before ultimately walking the trail.

Riedquat

08-05-2011, 21:17

^^First the Fluffys and then the lurkers... :creep:

Vote: TLD for his general scumminess, nothing specific to address...

White_eyes:D

08-05-2011, 21:19

Nice text wall there guys but I think Earthling has it right with a "He/She said argument" all in all.:shrug:

My spirit would be broken if glyphz was mafia for the fourth time and I didn't follow up at all.~:mecry:

Vote:glyphz

Isn't Fluffy going to post more, not less if we lynch him GH?:clown:

GeneralHankerchief

08-05-2011, 21:21

Well yeah, probably, but they won't have any effect and we won't need to keep them in mind when it comes down to the end. :tongue:

Zack

08-05-2011, 21:47

No, it's not searching for scum, but it doesn't make the case any less valid. Think of the Fluffy lynch as clearing away underbrush with a machete before ultimately walking the trail.
The lynch is the town's best weapon. It's the only way for the town as a whole to actively try and kill scumbags and it's the most effective way. Lynches shouldn't EVER be wasted for something as silly as "clearing away underbrush."

Why do you think mafia are always so eager to lynch lurkers? Because it's an easy way to distract the town from lynching the actual mafia, and nothing gets accomplished! And the mafia don't have to pretend like they're searching for scum, or build cases, or anything like that. Lynching lurkers is easy, and it's largely unproductive. That's why mafia love it.

The fluffy bandwagon today is a mafioso's dream. It's not searching for scum, but merely eliminating someone perceived to be distracting and annoying.

FoS: Everyone on the fluffywagon.

Yaropolk

08-05-2011, 21:51

3 TheLastDays (DIY, Believer, Earthling)
3 Double A (Andres, Capt Blackadder, DE)
3 glyphz (Renata, dcmort, W_e)
5 Fluffy (Chaotix, Romanic, jh, GH, TLD)
1 ATPG (Yaropolk)
1 Romanic (zack)
1 TLD (Riedquat)

Too many votes on Fluffy, can someone switch to glyphz.

Edit: I almost forgot my tribute to Athena:

http://xs.to/media/81070

TheLastDays

08-05-2011, 21:51

We might have won Mafia X had we dealt with lurkers more consequently.

Double A

08-05-2011, 21:55

Why would a player with no ability send in orders and then appear in the write-up?

Ask TwilightBlade. It was a joke about him, after all.

Vote double A

All that maybe and possibly make me think that is a mafia trying to appear town when in fact he has p.i.s. Most likely is the one that screams for me since when he is proven correct in his ideas he can say he told us all

If I was mafia trying to appear as town I'd sit on my hands and vote randomly like I usually do. Whenever I actually try to play the game, all I get is a vote or three. It's a wonder I'm trying at all.

1)

2) If this game is going to be decided by some pro-town network that discusses things in private and decides the game by voting in block, then it will be very boring for those not included in the pro-town network.

3) Pro-town networks haven't helped town much in previous games.

4) Pro-town networks get infiltrated all the time.

5) Pro-town network = BORING.

Double A is more interesting.

1-5 is exactly what I'd expect of Andres, but really, why so much interest on me?

Thank God I am still alive :laugh:!

Fluffy but more discreet. I'm real surprised no one actually quoted this before, due to Warman's penchant for hiding in plain sight.

vote: Fluffy

It's a serious vote. Memes are fun but not helpful, and Fluffy choose not to contribute differently so I'm happy to force a claim out of him, or even lynch him.

Speaking out of experience, I'm inclined to agree. vote: Fluffy

I'd rather have Fluffy lynched than you, for sure. You and Believer are likely two Townies lashing at each other, as it's usually the case for similar situations. None of you have a good argument against the other (imo) and what was said in private, but not quoted, discussion is hardly significant to me. I've seen how ATPG can distort my sentences when he's Town, in the last game.

glyphz's case is thin, and I'm waiting for him to react, before saying why I disagree. Not going to give him ammo when, if he's scum, he could trip and give himself away with a scummy reply.

As for Double A, bah - the case is built on a choice of words. I could probably pressure Double A as I'm doing with Fluffy, both being spammers.

A thin case is slightly better than no case (and yes I realize the situational irony). First "case" is just a shouting match going nowhere, so I'm going to wait on glyphz and see what he does before I change my vote.

The main reason I quoted this post is so I can say that I'm actually not going to spam it up like I usually do during this game.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88

08-05-2011, 22:00

Vote:Double A

Meanie :clown:.

Ironside

08-05-2011, 22:06

Vote: glyphz

nothing major, but his previous posts adds up.

Double A

08-05-2011, 22:09

Vote:Double A

Meanie :clown:.

Wait, since when did a FoS warrant a OMGUS vote? Wouldn't it be an OMGUS FoS?

Khazaar

08-05-2011, 22:12

Reducing spam can´t hurt Vote: Fluffy

SoulBlade

08-05-2011, 22:28

vote: Fluffy
Alive fluffiniess is still suspicious.

Zack

08-05-2011, 22:42

This makes me angry. Does anyone actually care about catching scum?

Tratorix

08-05-2011, 22:52

This makes me angry. Does anyone actually care about catching scum?

I love these "well I don't want to make a case against anyone" lynches. I mean, it's not like anyone is going to try and stop it, so fluffy's an easy target.

Renata

08-05-2011, 22:53

I think they're all seduced by Romanic's sexy assertiveness. Plus maybe a mafia or two.

glyphz's case is thin, and I'm waiting for him to react, before saying why I disagree.

You can tell me why; it's my case.

GeneralHankerchief

08-05-2011, 23:02

This makes me angry. Does anyone actually care about catching scum?

You're committing the common error of showing a lack of foresightedness. Fluffy:

a) Has just as much a chance of being scum as anyone else, and since no real cases have jumped out this round he is an equally valid option anyway,
b) Is impossible to analyze in the endgame, when the chances of lynching a mafioso are significantly higher due to percentage

Getting rid of him now will save us all a lot of trouble in the rounds where we're more likely to catch a mafioso anyway. Since, as I pointed out in A, there aren't any real other cases going on, I fail to see why the Fluffy lynch today is an issue (aside from the fact that the bandwagon is picking up steam, but there's nothing you can do about that).

Visor

08-05-2011, 23:14

I fail to see why the Fluffy lynch today is an issue (aside from the fact that the bandwagon is picking up steam, but there's nothing you can do about that).

Because he's the best damn mafia player we have.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88

08-05-2011, 23:38

Wait, since when did a FoS warrant a OMGUS vote? Wouldn't it be an OMGUS FoS?

You confuse me. :balloon2:

Double A

08-05-2011, 23:52

You confuse me. :balloon2:

:bow:

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88

08-06-2011, 00:07

:bow:

woad&fangs

08-06-2011, 00:30

vote: glyphz
1) I like Renata's case on him at this point.
2) Metagame vendetta (joking)
3) I agree with fluffy's well thought out analysis of the harmfulness of text walls in the act of mafia hunting. It would be a shame to waste the most scholarly mind of Babylon.

Earthling

08-06-2011, 02:19

And I'll give you 4) a reason to unvote, which is that you're not likely to succeed at lynching glyphz in fluffy's place. Voting for a second candidate that won't be lynched if fluffy is anyway, and not being clear whether you really want to save fluffy or just get said other guy is not helpful. It does allow for a scum to be on any bandwagon today and go "I told you so" no matter what fluffy is in the end though. If we're going to randomly lynch someone who is probably a townie solely to rouse up better posting then I agree fluffy is the right call for benefitting future town efforts, and I'd unvote and vote fluffy before one of the other two. So it's just not a good reason to condemn someone else only because they are not fluffy. The only way you'd gain traction is if you find some fluffy voters and convince them to unvote and I'm giving another incentive to imagine that still won't work.

This day has simply been disappointing discussion wise with the ridiculous bandwagons that took off not based on real evidence. Even though I get we couldn't expect anything more revealed new from axeguy or other roles, we've had very little discussion on whether people now believe that GE was a townie or mafia, which should be absolutely huge in deciding people's votes but isn't.

Of course, we do have enough total people not voting for fluffy that it's a shame the fluffy lynch is winning anyway, but the chances of getting everyone on a decent bandwagon now are slim, and if there was a chance, I'd obviously prefer to go for the still scummy TLD.

Death is yonder

08-06-2011, 02:28

Vote: DiY

Let me think.

An interesting reaction considering I have not been involved in private communication with you :inquisitive:

Are you just going to jump on every bandwagon that comes up?

Vote for whom you suspect. Jumping on bandwagons to "save yourself" is pointless this early in the Day.

Something note worthy too, much akin to GE trying to subtly nudge the voting direction elsewhere, except in your case, a bit more blatant.

My vote stays.

For all those voting Fluffy and claiming "foresightedness" (GH), you ignored this:

1. Voting fluffy possibly allows scum to just hide in the woodwork with an easy reason to latch on (annoying, memes, spammy, blah)
2. Wouldn't eliminating more scum suspects now make the decision easier for the final round?
a) You say that eliminating fluffy now will make it easier in the final round to guess who the scum is, but the fact of the matter is that by your very counter-productive action, you've essentially forced a lynch because now even if fluffy isn't scum, you've made him lynch bait, and he's going to survive longer anyway even if he wasn't scum
b) Eliminating more suspects now (like TLD) rather than pursuing fluffy (who possibly could have been killed) would have been more efficient in making better decisions in the final round, which was your motivation for voting fluffy.

I concede reason 2a can be taken as encouraging fluffy's lynch, but that is not my intention.

glyphz

08-06-2011, 03:42

There must really be a lack of leads this day...
vote: glyphzIt looks fake. None of the other bandwagons were remotely serious as "threats" to GE getting lynched, so why the pose? During the night glyphz says GE needs to be lynched if no claim, yet there was a claim, and glyphz didn't comment on it at all, just this fake looking vote.At the time I began writing that post, the lead on the G_E wagon dropped from 6 (Romanic's tally post post #380) to 3, including a couple of unvotes. The focus of the last posts were going away from G_E (check it out), and I saw that as a bad sign, hence the message style.

As for the reason? I was not convinced of his civilian reveal. Not after surviving an attack. And not after hinting that he has something to disclose regarding that matter, and acting unsure how to do it. I also did not agree w/ his reasoning, for delaying the truth of his nature, saying it was for the sake of generating discussion, I thought it only had us running in circles trying to guess what transpired or what he was.

glyphz

08-06-2011, 04:16

I'm going to come out and say up front, that I'm a vanilla townie, and I suspect God Emperor was also one.

Therefore, it seems clear that the big guy with the axe is incompetent when it comes to killing people.You could have made your point w/o the need of referencing yourself. Revealing, while under no suspicion/pressure, just makes me think you're suspicious.
Vote: Zack

Yaropolk

08-06-2011, 04:19

unvote: atpg; vote: glyphz

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 04:19

So I'm being lynched because I'm unhelpful?
................
Really, is that the best you can come up with?

I never play these games with the intention to hunt down mafia;
quite frankly, enough (too many, in my opinion) players
delve into dissecting every single post.
Me, I really don't give a damn, and I vote for who I want, when I want,
or when I know a player has been outed (no thanks to me) as mafia.
If there weren't so many bandwagons to jump on, or
I would always choose randomly, or I would choose Chaotix!

Now that I am done with my speech, I will now post
everyone's reaction to this.

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/coolstory.png
And then I will commenced to be lynched.

And the spam will continue, as it always will.

CUZ YOU CAN'T STOP TROLLS

HURR DURR

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 04:21

Oh, and Vote: Chaotix

bleh.

Yaropolk

08-06-2011, 04:23

http://i53.tinypic.com/1zpl4p5.jpg

Very proud of that btw - my original creation!

Seon

08-06-2011, 04:25

Agreed there. FOS: Zack

As for my actual vote, as much as it is impossible now for any payer to overtake the bandwagon that has been erupted around fluffymonster, would go to Vote: TheLastDays. Here is why.

1. He seemed almost entirely certain that the winged woman was either a vig or a serial killer, but not mafia, in day 1. Only way that I know for anybody to be certain about anything in day 1 is if he or she is a mafia.

2. Further investigations have shown that he is reluctant to share opinions about the game with other people. This has, in my experience, mostly been a non-town behavior.

3. He's jumped into two bandwagons already to save his own skin. While it may just be a sign of a panicking townie, the behavior is also a characteristic of a mafia.

It's not much, but it is better than the one in fluffy.

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 04:28

POSSIBLE CHANCE TO AVOID DEATH?
YES PLEASE
Unvote; Vote: TheLastDays

Yaropolk

08-06-2011, 04:28

Current tally:

7 Fluffy (Chaotix, Romanic, jh, GH, TLD,khazar, soulblade)
6 glyphz (Renata, dcmort, W_e, ironside, w&f, yaro)
6 TheLastDays (DIY, Believer, Earthling, Seon, fluffy, riedquat)
4 Double A (Andres, Capt Blackadder, DE, eliteking)
1 Romanic (zack)
1 zack (glyphz)

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 04:29

LE GASP
TIE FTW

Unvote;Vote: glyphz

Seon

08-06-2011, 04:33

Stop it, fluffy, you are making me want to vote for you :p

Chaotix

08-06-2011, 04:33

Nah. Don't like ties. Too indecisive.

Unvote, Vote: glyphz

Chaotix

08-06-2011, 04:33

Ignore this

Tratorix

08-06-2011, 04:36

Aw, I want TLD to get lynched. Make it happen people. :whip:

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 04:36

Ignore this

I WILL NOT.
THIS POST WAS OBVIOUSLY CLAIMING
HIS SCUMMINESS TO THE WORLD.

Aw, I want TLD to get lynched. Make it happen people. :whip:

HAY!
...............
Will you give me a cookie?

Chaotix

08-06-2011, 04:39

I WILL NOT.
THIS POST WAS OBVIOUSLY CLAIMING
HIS SCUMMINESS TO THE WORLD.

Quiet you, before I change my mind.

It's not every day I save my scum memebuddy from the lynch.

Earthling

08-06-2011, 04:44

glyphz is very likely not mafia, if he was he'd have had other teammates defending him more at this point and that's besides the fact there's no real case on him here.

Chaotix I guess is excused for changing votes because he was one of the first to vote for fluffy and not a bandwagonner, so he's not exactly being a hypocrite. Nevertheless I said I'd disagree with this vote swing and as my suspect is not getting lynched I will

Unvote; vote: fluffy

We'll see what any stragglers think and there's glyphz's own vote of course too.

Zack

08-06-2011, 04:45

You could have made your point w/o the need of referencing yourself. Revealing, while under no suspicion/pressure, just makes me think you're suspicious.
Vote: Zack
Are you kidding me? God Emperor was crucified for failing to reveal quickly, and for bungling the situation in general.

How was that suspicious in any way?

Why shouldn't I reveal myself? I'm vanilla, I don't have anything to hide from anyone.

glyphz

08-06-2011, 04:45

Consecutive posts by fluff w/o a meme... I must be dreaming

Tratorix

08-06-2011, 04:46

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 04:48

Consecutive posts by fluff w/o a meme... I must be dreaming
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/raisins.png?t=1312602469

Visor

08-06-2011, 04:50

^^

I love this guy.

Earthling

08-06-2011, 04:50

Visor

08-06-2011, 04:52

Fluffy is the greatest player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Tratorix

08-06-2011, 04:53

We don't have the votes. As I already said, between the other candidates for killing a random townie, I agree people gave the correct reason that fluffy is the best lynch, as the most distracting suspect who won't be of benefit or useful to analyze later.

Pretty sure their are enough votes. Plus the vote is currently tied, which is not good. Thank you for answering my question clearly, even though I said glyphz when I meant fluffy. :bow:

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 04:55

We don't have the votes. As I already said, between the other candidates for killing a random townie, I agree people gave the correct reason that fluffy is the best lynch, as the most distracting suspect who won't be of benefit or useful to analyze later.

Oh phooey.
The town can do fine without my help.
So there's no need to kill me!
...............................

Wait, I don't think I made my case any better.....
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/mega_la_by_aaron_a_arts-d3aurd4.png?t=1312602891

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 04:58

Fluffy is the greatest player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/tumblr_lozkm1MQ2B1qia93w.gif?t=1312603077

Seon

08-06-2011, 05:04

FLUFFY! VOTE TLD!

YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 05:05

FLUFFY! VOTE TLD!

YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!

WHUTS THE TALLY?!?
I NEED TO KNOW THE TALLY!!!

HALP!

Tratorix

08-06-2011, 05:18

Fluffy- 7
Glyphz- 8
TLD-4
A bunch of people who don't matter- votes

Goodbye glyphz. :bow:

Note: tally may be wrong. Follow it at your own risk.

Yaropolk

08-06-2011, 05:20

Tally is negative 3 to potato

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 05:22

Tally is negative 3 to potato
This man is a genius

Visor

08-06-2011, 05:23

1 Hour, 16 Minutes, 55 Seconds to go. Ish.

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 05:28

Vote: TheFluffyOne

I love you, but I must KILL you!

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 05:29

Vote: TheFluffyOne

I love you, but I must KILL you!

.........
You make me want to cry, Pizza.
What have I ever done to you?

Oh wait...........
Yeah, I guess you can do that.

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 05:30

Woah, I have been away. When I voted for Fluffy, it was Fluffy 5, others less....

There's a whole other page.... it's like a.... a.... anotherworld.

Tratorix

08-06-2011, 05:31

Vote: TheFluffyOne

I love you, but I must KILL you!

Thats not good, you tied the vote! :shocked:

glyphz

08-06-2011, 05:31

Why shouldn't I reveal myself? I'm vanilla, I don't have anything to hide from anyone.Are ya? Hmmmmmm?
Are ya, really?
:stare:
If I claim that I'm vanilla townie as well, are you gonna believe me, & take my word for it?
Doubt it.
So why should I believe you then?

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 05:33

Thats not good, you tied the vote! :shocked:

EEEEK TIES ARE EVIL

unvote, vote: Somebody

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 05:33

*cough* whuzzat?

LE GASP
INDEED THEY ARE PIZZA.

OMG THIS IS MAKING BE BI-POLAR

I LOVE FLUFFY KITTENS COVERED IN SPIKES.

glyphz

08-06-2011, 05:33

Goodbye glyphz. :bow:
Not yet. :bow:

Woah, I have been away. When I voted for Fluffy, it was Fluffy 5, others less....

There's a whole other page.... it's like a.... a.... anotherworld.Welcome to the party, 'pizza

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 05:34

Not yet. :bow:

Welcome to the party, 'pizza

You're the other option for today, aren't you?

Ok tell me, which one of you should I vote for and why.

Visor

08-06-2011, 05:36

Vote for Glyphz.

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 05:36

You're the other option for today, aren't you?

Ok tell me, which one of you should I vote for and why.

People are voting for me because I'm useless.

Which is quite a big surprise for me, because I thought everybody already knew that and were fine with it!

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 05:37

Vote for Glyphz.

YOU FORGOT TO SAY WHY

vote: Visorslash

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 05:38

YOU FORGOT TO SAY WHY

vote: Visorslash

Because it'll keep me alive?
Oh wait....you want to kill me....

Visor

08-06-2011, 05:38

I DID. MY REASONING WAS

.

I HAVE SOME MORE REASONING!

Fluffy is a lynch out of frustration. Glyphz is the guy who should be lynched.

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 05:40

I DID. MY REASONING WAS

.

I HAVE SOME MORE REASONING!

Fluffy is a lynch out of frustration. Glyphz is the guy who should be lynched.

Granted, some of that frustration might have been caused by my memes, but
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/maradona.png?t=1312605600

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 05:40

People are voting for me because I'm useless.

Which is quite a big surprise for me, because I thought everybody already knew that and were fine with it!

Yeah but if you're going to sign up for games, you have to try occasionally. Or else you're potential scum, and no help to the townie side.

Not that I care, being mafia and all.

unvote, vote: Fluffy

I was the one who killed Reenk Roink. I did it with the rusty chainsaw, in the conservatory, and I was wearing a dress at the time.

Also, glyphz is my home boy. Nobody touches him, in that way, but me.

GeneralHankerchief

08-06-2011, 05:40

Okay, let's dial down on the spam a little bit.

Visor

08-06-2011, 05:41

I like them. They're a nice change.

ATPG, do you play a game to win, or to have fun?

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 05:41

Pizza be trolling this game.

Who said that? I've killed men for less. :stare:

ATPG, do you play a game to win, or to have fun?

Right now, playing for fun. But still showing up to vote. No idea what I'm doing but firing blindly is better than being a lurker.

glyphz

08-06-2011, 05:42

You're the other option for today, aren't you?

Ok tell me, which one of you should I vote for and why.Yep. I got the wagon, but am unwillingly fighting fluff for the right to ride it one-way to the gallows...
Only gone through the thread once, so I dont have any ammunition w/ someone's name on it...
If I were to borrow someone else's case I'd go w/ DoubleA, TheLastDays, or Zack.

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 05:43

Yeah but if you're going to sign up for games, you have to try occasionally.

Try?
Where's the fun in that?
I see no fun in dissecting every single post, trying to
see which is the scummiest.
Nah, I let the Random Gods roll their dice, or vote Chaotix!

I prefer to keep guessing; let people who want to have their heads hurt actually
try.

Visor

08-06-2011, 05:44

Right now, playing for fun. But still showing up to vote. No idea what I'm doing but firing blindly is better than being a lurker.

And isn't firing blindly exactly what Fluffy is doing? And he is showing up to vote, if I recall correctly.

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 05:45

Right now, playing for fun. But still showing up to vote. No idea what I'm doing but firing blindly is better than being a lurker.

I approve, even if it causes my death.

TROLL TIL THE END.

(AND SOME TIME AFTER AS WELL!)

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 05:45

And isn't firing blindly exactly what Fluffy is doing? And he is showing up to vote, if I recall correctly.

What's your point? I gotta kills me somebody.

Visor

08-06-2011, 05:46

Try?
Where's the fun in that?
I see no fun in dissecting every single post, trying to
see which is the scummiest.
Nah, I let the Random Gods roll their dice, or vote Chaotix!

I prefer to keep guessing; let people who want to have their heads hurt actually
try.

You don't have to dissect every single post to play this game.

What's your point? I gotta kills me somebody.

So make it glyphz.

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 05:47

So make it glyphz.

Purty Please?
You can always kill me tomorrow!

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 05:50

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 05:52

Unvote, vote: GeneralHankerchief

For acting like a moderator

This, I like.
Herp Derp ftw.

Tratorix

08-06-2011, 05:54

No, I have no idea what the arguments are.

I would be really ticked off if I spent all round trying to get somebody killed and then somebody like a pizza guy came in and herp derped all over the thread and voted down my case.

You guys know what's going on, I'll defer.

Unvote, vote: GeneralHankerchief

For acting like a moderator

I'll sum up the case.

Thefluffyone93: Is Thefluffyone93.

glyphz: Andres thought a post he made was scummy.

That has been the extent of discussion this round. Also TLD and Believer each wrote an essay on why the other is guilty, that no one actually read.

glyphz

08-06-2011, 05:56

I approve, even if it causes my death.

TROLL TIL THE END.

(AND SOME TIME AFTER AS WELL!)Have you ever had a non-cannon fodder role, Fluffy?

Also, glyphz is my home boy. Nobody touches him, in that way, but me.Aww, pizza! How cheeeesy of you:smitten:

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 06:00

Oh. Well unvote, vote Believer

I seem to remember something about that. And I was supposed to help him with that.

All aboard the no-reason reverse wagon of epic failwin!

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 06:02

........
Does that vote help me at all?

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 06:03

I don't know. All I know is that TheLastDays was right and I was wrong like 3 or 4 times in a row now, and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for once.

Tratorix

08-06-2011, 06:07

Don't mean to rush you guys, but the votes still tied.

Edit: No its not, I'm dumb.

glyphz

08-06-2011, 06:08

........
Does that vote help me at all?Not having 'pizza's vote on you does.
I think I'm in the lead in this wagon race, w/ finish line in sight.

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 06:10

Not having 'pizza's vote on you does.
I think I'm in the lead in this wagon race, w/ finish line in sight.

Better start voting for believer then.

glyphz

08-06-2011, 06:17

Better start voting for believer then.Yes, yes. I'm still a believer.:drama1: I still believe in mira-
vote for believer?
Um, sure why not...
Unvote; Vote: Believer

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 06:19

Nice. If this happens I will lol.

Romanic

08-06-2011, 06:19

When exactly was the voting deadline?

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 06:20

Unvote;Vote: Believer

bugger it all

Tratorix

08-06-2011, 06:21

When exactly was the voting deadline?

Few posts above yours. :wink:

Romanic

08-06-2011, 06:24

@khaan : The deadline counter is a nice touch, but once it's reached, we have no way of knowing when it actually ended.. It would be nice if you would also write the exact ending time.

Choxorn

08-06-2011, 06:33

I don't have time to read through the past 5 pages, so I'll just Vote: TheLastDays for his general scummy atmosphere.

glyphz

08-06-2011, 06:36

Death arrives at 22:40... ETA <5 mins.:sweatdrop:

Visor

08-06-2011, 06:36

Choxorn, vote Believer. Please.

Romanic

08-06-2011, 06:37

Few posts above yours. :wink:

Yeah, hmm, "few" posts could mean three or twenty three, depending who says it. Which vote was the last one? ATPG, post #642, where he unvoted, and voted Believer?

Choxorn

08-06-2011, 06:38

I... wait, what? Why? Where did this Believer-wagon come from? Why should I vote for him, anyway?

Tratorix

08-06-2011, 06:40

Timers done, as of roughly 20 seconds ago.

Romanic

08-06-2011, 06:42

Just vote Fluffy, and you'll be a hero.

seireikhaan

08-06-2011, 06:43

Right, round ended, finishing up tally.

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 06:43

We could have had something spectacular, you guys. Last minute no-reason wagon on a scumbag.

Where, where is the loyalty? I thought I commanded you all and you all did my bidding. Everyone just does what pizza says, and all that rubbish.

Let's go with the following of the orders now. Otherwise I murder you. :stare:

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 06:44

so.........

WHOSE LINE IS IT ANYWAYS?

Romanic

08-06-2011, 06:46

Right, round ended, finishing up tally.
Be careful with following the posted tallies, they're missing a vote on Fluffy!

We don't want the scum to live because someone made a mistake. :smug2:

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 06:50

Be careful with following the posted tallies, they're missing a vote on Fluffy!

We don't want the scum to live because someone made a mistake. :smug2:

quiet you!

Romanic

08-06-2011, 06:51

quiet you!
Jotun! :laugh4:

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 06:52

Jotun! :laugh4:
I thought......
wait a sec....
WHUUUUUT

Romanic

08-06-2011, 06:55

You're scum because even when under pressure, you haven't done any effort to help. All you've been doing is moving your vote to help yourself, and trick people into believing you were not a worthy lynch without telling them why. You're just posing as a victim. It's time you die, and if this lynch wasn't enough, I hope we'll get rid of you soon.

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 06:57

GeneralHankerchief

08-06-2011, 06:58

Okay, let's dial down on the spam a little bit.

I am posting this for the second time in a little over an hour because my message was not heeded before. Do not make me post it a third time.

seireikhaan

08-06-2011, 07:02

Alright, based on my own tally and the posted one(the two matched), we have a tie, between Fluffy and Glyphz. First vote which breaks the tie ends the round. You may still vote for other players.

Glyphz 7(Chaotix, Yaropolk, Ironside woad&fangs, Renata, Dcmort, white eyes)
Fluffy 7(Earthling, SoulBlade, Khazaar, TLD, GH, Romanic, Johnhughthom)
TheLastDays 5(Choxorn, Seon, Riedquat, Believer, DiY)
Double A 4(Warman, Diamondeye, Andres, Captain Blackadder)
Believer 3(Fluffy, Glyphz, ATPG)
Romanic 1(Zack)
Zack 1(Glyphz)

GeneralHankerchief

08-06-2011, 07:03

Vote: Fluffy

-edit- nevermind, that doesn't do anything.

glyphz

08-06-2011, 07:05

I'm getting a different tally...
DoubleA voted Fluffy (post #562)

Romanic

08-06-2011, 07:11

Confirmed, Fluffy 8 glyphz 7 is also what I have.

seireikhaan

08-06-2011, 07:12

Yes, it seems you're correct, Glyphz. Fluffy was lynched. Writeup shortly. Orders may be begin to be sent now.

seireikhaan

08-06-2011, 07:44

"And so," the elderly man continued onward. "Angra Mainyu's followers convened again. Even though only one had been vanquished the last night, the reports of other attacks still had everyone nervous. Except for Mainyu, of course. He sat on his golden throne, looking somewhat amused the whole time."

"Why was he so happy, granpa?" the little girl asked. "Didn't being attacked make him scared?"

The old man chuckled. "That's not how he worked, darling. He was always so confident, so sure he would succeed. It also could have been the antics of The Fluffy one."

The girl giggled. "The Fluffy One? Did he have a kitty?"

"Oh no. Nobody was quite sure what The Fluffy One really was. He might've been human, or god, or a demon. But what he really was, was a jester. He enjoyed poking fun at people and trying to rouse laughter from the crowd. But by this point, people were tired of his antics, and so, at the end of the day, they gave him over to Mainyu. While he was knelt before Mainyu, who took his sword out, he stayed true to form. 'Be careful with that sword, I wouldn't want to lose my fluffiness!' he joked to his executioner. Now, mainyu was not much for true humor, most of the time. But, it seemed, in honor of the jester being sent to his doom, he relaxed a bit."

"Did he let him go?" the girl asked.

"Oh, no. Mainyu was still his unmerciful self. But when he raised his sword, he gave The Fluffy One his final words. 'It seems, Fluffy, that this close shave is not one you'll soon forget.' Nobody heard TheFluffyOne's execution over the groans coming from the crowd."

Please send in orders. Twenty four hour phase. Ends at 3:00 EDT.

Alive: 32

Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Believer
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Choxorn
Classical Hero
Dcmort
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Double A
Earthling
Johnhughthom
GeneralHankerchief
Glyphz
Ironside
Khazaar
Renata
Riedquat
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
SoulBlade
TheLastDays
Warman
Woad&fangs
White Eyes
Yaropolk
Zach

Killed: 5

TinCow (N1)
Tratorix (N1)
Visorslash (N1)
B_ray (N2)
Reenk Roink (N3)

Lynched: 3

Arjos (D1)
God Emperor (D2)
Fluffy (D3)

glyphz

08-06-2011, 08:20

*groan*
Adieu, Fluffy
~:mecry:

TheLastDays

08-06-2011, 09:10

This is madness.
I am asleep for a few hours and there's like five pages to read when I get back. Thanks for not lynching me though.
I'll try to answer points made against me and I'd like those who vote me for nor real reason at all to post their cases and I will answer. I will not let a day go to waste on lynching me without making an effort to avoid it.

As for my actual vote, as much as it is impossible now for any payer to overtake the bandwagon that has been erupted around fluffymonster, would go to Vote: TheLastDays. Here is why.

1. He seemed almost entirely certain that the winged woman was either a vig or a serial killer, but not mafia, in day 1. Only way that I know for anybody to be certain about anything in day 1 is if he or she is a mafia.

Wrong. Here's a little quote from my D1 attempt to analyse the writeup:

Alright. Very interesting for a first night.

Tratorix was the rider on the peacock (Chocobo? probably not ^^). He killed Visorslash and was in turn killed by the pearly lady.

That means either Tratorix was a vigilante or serial killer that was then killed by the Mafia or he was Mafia and was then killed by a vig or sk.
The lady that killed him said “Truly, we were correct. Savages.” I think it might be a hint that she is with the Gods/Netherworld Mafia that is talking about the followers of Angry Mainyu but it sure needs further analysis.

[...]

So if Tratorix killed Visorslash, a townie, he was probably Mafia or a sk. This could mean the pearl lady is on the town's side but we shouldn't draw conclusions too quickly.

Case closed. Oh, I did later say that I thought it was probable that she's an sk or vig but I never said I was certain and my recommendation to not draw conclusions too quickly still stood.

2. Further investigations have shown that he is reluctant to share opinions about the game with other people. This has, in my experience, mostly been a non-town behavior.

Wrong. I was reluctant to share opinions with Believer. I shared quite a few opinions with Renata and some with ATPG.

3. He's jumped into two bandwagons already to save his own skin. While it may just be a sign of a panicking townie, the behavior is also a characteristic of a mafia.

True, I jumped the wagon that would potentially save me because I know I am town and I know this about no one else with 100% certainty so from my perspective a lynch on glyphz (on whos case I told Renata that I agreed with her) or fluffy (who is unhelpful) is better than lynching me.

This whole case is bogus and you're aiming for me again, like on D1, going for an easy target. FoS: Seon

Aw, I want TLD to get lynched. Make it happen people. :whip:

I love you too.

Arjos

08-06-2011, 09:24

Close shave HA! classic ^^

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2011, 09:48

And now I shall go back to voting for woad!@#$%^*()...

Do you realize that I am typing in the dark, and I can never find the symbol woad uses in his name, so I literally just hit shift and kept moving my finger to the right, and I hit all the other symbols EXCEPT the one I was looking for?

I'm leaving it as a monument to the perverse difficulty I have typing woadANDfangs' name properly.

Anyway, now I'm voting him because typing his name gives me headaches.

Diamondeye

08-06-2011, 11:22

Tally is negative 3 to potato

This man is a genius

Obviously!

*cough* whuzzat?

LE GASP
INDEED THEY ARE PIZZA.

OMG THIS IS MAKING BE BI-POLAR

I LOVE FLUFFY KITTENS COVERED IN SPIKES.

This is a fluffy kitten, it is menacing with iron spikes?

Just vote Fluffy, and you'll be a hero.

AN HERO. It's spelled "An hero".

EDIT: Also, lynching Fluffy was a good move. And ATPG, it's called an "Ampersand". Google it.

Believer

08-06-2011, 13:06

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 16:24

Wow.
Just wow.
So I was lynched because of how I play.
I find that quite sad, really.
I recall someone saying how the votes against me were ones of
"frustration", and I couldn't agree more.
I'm sorry if the way I play annoys some of you, but I
enjoy being the jester. So while most of you enjoy working with other players
and hunting for mafia, I prefer to make useless comments and post memes to make people
laugh.

And I don't intend to stop playing that way, regardless of how many
times a mod posts to stop being spammy. Not gonna happen.

That being the case, I guess if I'm not going
to be able to enjoy the game my own way,
I guess i should take a long hiatus from the
.Org.

And if I get banned for this comment, so be it.

So now I will end this with a quote I just thought
up right now.

"Trolls never die; They just change their name to Anonymous"

Your Loving Troll,
Thefluffyone93

Auf Wiedersehen, Frauleins!

Reenk Roink

08-06-2011, 17:56

Oh come on fluffy, you know I love you, but you can't seriously be mad that you were lynched for how you play. First of all, technically everyone gets lynched for that. Also, of course the town is going to use an early lynch when they have no idea what's going on what they might see as a distraction. It's why lurkers get lynched, and why you got lynched. If I had voted last round I would have voted White eyes because he seems weird, but if I was going to break the tie it would be to save TLD and lynch you for reasons mentioned above. At least now I have only White eyes in my tunnel vision for next round's vote.

Edit: Saw I'm dead... again. :laugh4: Well good luck town, avenge my death, and all that crap. :flybye:

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 18:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGtfiw-qsxw&feature=feedrec_grec_index

Diamondeye

08-06-2011, 19:17

I think you're a great guy and one of the funniest people on here, Fluffy, but I can't see why we would let you play in these games if you have no intention to play by the standards here. Basically, what you're doing could be done without filling a spot in the game (although I don't know how tolerant the moderators would be as that would clearly be spam).

Basically, it's been fun, but that behaviour fits better into less purposeful forums such as 4chan.

Tratorix

08-06-2011, 19:42

Oh, come on. There are plenty of people who join games and only pop up contributing the occasional vote, or just stop playing and get wogged. Are we going to say they can't play either now? If you want to lynch, or in the mods case, punish fluffy for spamming go right ahead, but lets not act like he's some sort of blight upon the forums. :rolleyes:

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 19:47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WJMgIFTI80&feature=channel_video_title

GeneralHankerchief

08-06-2011, 19:59

If any of you has issue with how this forum is moderated, you are always welcome to talk to us in private. Barring that, there is the Watchtower (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?26-Watchtower), which will allow you to air your concerns in a public forum.

woad&fangs

08-06-2011, 20:48

dcmort93

08-06-2011, 20:57

no I would be lynch proof as everyone these days just votes dcmort with all sorts of different caps and always without the numbers

thefluffyone93

08-06-2011, 21:21

[See my most recent post - GH]

thefluffyone93

08-07-2011, 03:04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrCDdm2yjXY&feature=related

Believer

08-07-2011, 03:12

Enough is enough fluffy.

Chaotix

08-07-2011, 03:30

.....

Did Fluffy just raegquit?

I didn't think he was capable of that.

seireikhaan

08-07-2011, 08:08

Orders done, finishing writeups.

Choxorn

08-07-2011, 08:10

Chaotix, Fluffy does not ragequit games. Games ragequit Fluffy.

Visor

08-07-2011, 08:33

And he was lynched.

Arjos

08-07-2011, 08:56

Chaotix, Fluffy does not ragequit games. Games ragequit Fluffy.

Priceless ^^
Also imo town lost a vote with Fluffy, yes he voted randomly, but still...

seireikhaan

08-07-2011, 09:29

Ironside slumped slumped up to the door of his residence. The day had seemed so long compared to the rest. Perhaps it was the sheer amount of idle chatter that made it stretch so long. Regardless, he inserted his key into the door, and twisted. The key stuck in place. He jangled it more, but to no avail.

“Having trouble?” Ironside whipped around. A bearded man, in a strange green robe was only a foot behind him.

“How? What?” Ironside stuttered out. He hadn't heard anyone approaching.

“Your door won't open, will it?” Ironside shook his head. The man nodded in response. “Good, it seems everything's in order. In a flash, he delivered a punch to Ironside's gut. Ironside felt a sharp, scraping agony in his midsection. Grasping down, he felt a blade in the man's hand. Equally quick, the man pulled back, and brought the blade down on a hunched-over Ironside.

GeneralHankerchief was sitting on his roof for the night, enjoying the cool night air. A rest was in good order. He let his legs hang out over the edge of the roof and swing free. He closed his eyes, breathing deeply. Without warning, he felt his stomach lurch, and an iron grip on his right ankle. He tumbled down as someone yanked him down from his perch. He hit the ground with a solid thud, on his back. A dark haired woman in bronze scale towered above him, and plunged a sword downwards. GH wrenched his chest to the right, and the sword just nicked his left forearm. The woman raised the blade once more.

“AAAAAAARG!” she screamed as an arrow pierced her right hand, forcing the sword to drop. With his opportunity, GH scampered up to see his savior. A human man stood down the alley, a long wild mane reaching down his back He pulled an axe from his belt as he approached the woman.

“Run!” he screamed at GH. “I will take care of her!”

With a snarl, the woman ripped the arrow from her hand, and picked up her sword. The two charged each other, weapons raised. The man raised his axe for an overhand swing, while the woman sliced her curved weapon upwards. The two weapons grazed each other on the way past, sparks flying. The man lurched forward with his left shoulder, throwing his fist out. The woman slid to her left, twirling, bringing her blade down on the man's ankle. With a cry of agony, his right leg gave way. Without warning or hesitation, the woman leveled her sword at Andres' neck, and sliced his head off with one clean strike. The woman straightened up, scanning for any sight of GH, but he was long gone....

THE DAY PHASE BEGINS! YOU MAY NOW START VOTING.

Alive: 30

Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Believer
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Choxorn
Classical Hero
Dcmort
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Double A
Earthling
Johnhughthom
GeneralHankerchief
Glyphz
Khazaar
Renata
Riedquat
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
SoulBlade
TheLastDays
Warman
Woad&fangs
White Eyes
Yaropolk
Zach

Killed: 7

TinCow (N1)
Tratorix (N1)
Visorslash (N1)
B_ray (N2)
Reenk Roink (N3)
Andres (N4)
Ironside (N4)

Lynched: 3

Arjos (D1)
God Emperor (D2)
Fluffy (D3)

TheLastDays

08-07-2011, 09:33

vote: Seon

Visor

08-07-2011, 09:34

You guys can lynch TLD now. :yes:

Askthepizzaguy

08-07-2011, 09:38

TLD, what was that thing about Believer? Are you no longer sure it's him? Why?

Vote: woad&fangs

seireikhaan

08-07-2011, 10:20

Round will be a bit longer than usual

TheLastDays

08-07-2011, 10:26

TLD, what was that thing about Believer? Are you no longer sure it's him? Why?

Nah, at least not sure enough to pursue this now. I was probably aiming at a townie there. Seon is a better target today. His votes have been easy targets all game and his reasoning has been shoddy at best, I'd like him to talk about that.

I'd like to know if the big guy with the big axe has revealed to anybody in the network. Is he willing to work with the town?
I'm afraid we lost one of our doctors last night and we'd need any help we can get.

Arjos

08-07-2011, 10:57

...might be an hint of an Andres-God Emperor maneuver...

Not to brag or anything, but by the story Andres was the axe guy right? :P

TheLastDays

08-07-2011, 11:05

Not to brag or anything, but by the story Andres was the axe guy right? :P

I don't think so. With the guy this turn there was no mention that he was insanely huge or the huge size of his axe. He had it at his belt. Also the axe guy we've seen so far has never used bows and arrows. I think Andres was a doctor who got taken out by a mechanic similar to Herakles vs. doctors in Netherworld 1.

Arjos

08-07-2011, 11:12

Could be too, I'm loving the story ^^
But maybe the limited description is to not give away the axe guy's death, we'll see if he shows up again :)

Diamondeye

08-07-2011, 11:16

Vote: Seon.

Also, we now have two people who have been targetted by the mafia and survived... Protectors seem to make some lucky picks this time around :beam:

TheLastDays

08-07-2011, 11:17

Vote: Seon.

Also, we now have two people who have been targetted by the mafia and survived... Protectors seem to make some lucky picks this time around :beam:

Yeah just that the protector died this time. I hope GH's life was worth that.

Arjos

08-07-2011, 11:30

It's weird though, because if the mafia woman ordered to kill GH, and by luck Andres ordered to protect him, how's Andres' death explained?

Double A

08-07-2011, 11:34

Could be too, I'm loving the story ^^
But maybe the limited description is to not give away the axe guy's death, we'll see if he shows up again :)

I hope so, otherwise it would implicate Axe Guy having a second ability, which doesn't make me feel very comfortable. Unless he just forgot to send in orders... but since Murphy's Law is almost always invoked in mafia games, I'd say it's a second ability.

And in related news, I'm considering changing my user title to Captain Obvious.

GeneralHankerchief

08-07-2011, 11:49

Vote: Double A

I'm sorry Andres died to protect me, he obviously had a role and I'm not anything special. That said, I wouldn't mind it if I continued to receive protection for the rest of the game... :juggle2:

Double A

08-07-2011, 11:53

Renata

08-07-2011, 11:58

vote: glyphz

The fluffywagon smelled wrong, came up too fast and for too little reason, given the protagonists.

GeneralHankerchief

08-07-2011, 11:59

No, I'm voting you because your behavior is off. Also, because I think you're displaying a case of PIS in regards to my attempted murder writeup.

Ironside

08-07-2011, 12:10

Bleh, these early deaths are starting to get annoying.

I'm going to continue recommend glyphz though.

Seon

08-07-2011, 14:54

Vote: DE.

You traitor!

Zack

08-07-2011, 18:33

Vote: Romanic

Continuation from yesterday.

Believer

08-07-2011, 18:50

Nobody seems to want TLD lynched just yet, I guess that will have to wait a few rounds.
Rather than have my vote wasted I will vote for another good alternative before I go to the movies.

Vote: Glyphz

I'll be back in 3-4 hours, depending on how long the movie and the drive is.

TheLastDays

08-07-2011, 19:27

Is the timer correct? Yay, thanks Khaan, that means I'll be able to be around! :yes:

Vote: DE.

You traitor!

That's your reply? Can we please lynch Seon?

TheLastDays

08-07-2011, 19:33

I hope so, otherwise it would implicate Axe Guy having a second ability, which doesn't make me feel very comfortable. Unless he just forgot to send in orders... but since Murphy's Law is almost always invoked in mafia games, I'd say it's a second ability.

And in related news, I'm considering changing my user title to Captain Obvious.

Axe guy (the BIG one with the BIG axe) has already missed a night before. It actually fits right in. He attacked N1, didn't attack N2, attacked N3, didn't attack N4.
The pearly lady was gone again and I think the green robe man who killed in her stead is the same we saw N3. Lady with the saber remains our only regular.

It all speaks for the option of the Mafia having more members than kills.

Zack

08-07-2011, 19:36

Can we please lynch Seon?
What is the reasoning? All I've seen is several "Vote: Seon" posts, without any explanation why they are voting for Seon.

TheLastDays

08-07-2011, 19:41

What is the reasoning? All I've seen is several "Vote: Seon" posts, without any explanation why they are voting for Seon.

Ahem...

Nah, at least not sure enough to pursue this now. I was probably aiming at a townie there. Seon is a better target today. His votes have been easy targets all game and his reasoning has been shoddy at best, I'd like him to talk about that.

I'd like to know if the big guy with the big axe has revealed to anybody in the network. Is he willing to work with the town?
I'm afraid we lost one of our doctors last night and we'd need any help we can get.

Emphasis added now.
Go look at his posts and votes if you need proof. I'm a little tired and need to do a writeup later. The round is long though, so if it's needed I'll probably be able to quote some of his posts later.

dcmort93

08-07-2011, 19:45

As with yesterday I'm going to Vote Glyphz

Earthling

08-07-2011, 20:18

Gutsy move Andres. I congratulate you.

vote: The Last Days

Choxorn

08-07-2011, 20:30

I still think that Vote: TheLastDays is scummy.

Khazaar

08-07-2011, 21:01

Umm, do you mean that voting for TLD is scummy, or that TLD is scummy. I´m sure you can make two sentences out of that, it got me confused. I thought you meant to be funny at first.

Vote: ATPG much spammy, less constructive, must be getting old...

Double A

08-07-2011, 21:29

No, I'm voting you because your behavior is off. Also, because I think you're displaying a case of PIS in regards to my attempted murder writeup.

Perhaps it's because I'm determined to not be dead weight for once, and that I'm trying to analyze the night kills instead of leaving it to someone else? I know how to play as mafia, GH. If I was, there would be no reason for me to do this. I've seen what happens to antitownies with PIS, and it's never pretty for them. If I were mafia, I would be lurking and voting randomly, because that's what everyone expects me to do.

Chaotix

08-07-2011, 21:31

Vote: glyphz

Somebody tell me why we're voting for TLD again?

TheLastDays

08-07-2011, 21:43

Vote: glyphz

Somebody tell me why we're voting for TLD again?

Was going to say the same thing but I guess simply voting without giving reasons is fine for most people.

Zack

08-07-2011, 21:50

Vote: glyphz

Somebody tell me why we're voting for TLD again?
He's "scummy".

johnhughthom

08-07-2011, 22:06

No time to read up, so I'm going to follow Renata. Vote: glyphz

Earthling

08-07-2011, 22:30

If you're just going to be someone's lackey you could do a lot better than following a neutral pretending to be town.

Believer

08-07-2011, 22:33

Was going to say the same thing but I guess simply voting without giving reasons is fine for most people.

We had several text walls about this last day phase. The information given there is enough to lynch you twice.

Riedquat

08-07-2011, 22:41

He's "scummy".

He is scummy!

He has been scummy since day 1, I'm fine with what could be his playing style but there are to many minor details... yeap, I'm not going to dissect any post, just an example, yesterday he jumped in every single bandwagon when not OMGUS voting for somebody else. Another thing, after Believer accusation and the wall-texting competition it was more or less clear to me (and it seems to Romanic too) it was a fruitless discussion between 2 townies, but later comes pizza trying to start a bandwagon on Believer for something TLD said? Or is that my bad interpretation of what I did see? Or my mind is playing tricks... I don't know...

But now I must say TLD is right on something, yesterday Seon was calling for his head very vocal... and now voting for somebody else without any reason or explanation? :inquisitive:

FoS: everybody... me included!

Romanic

08-07-2011, 22:51

Vote: Romanic

Continuation from yesterday.

Bah, your reason for voting me yesterday was:

This is the second day in a row you're trying to get fluffy lynched based on an extremely flimsy, silly case.

Why aren't you trying to search for scum, Romanic? Do you really think fluffy is scum? If not, don't vote for him.

Vote: Romanic

As for fluffy, it would be nice if you actually contribute for once. Romanic has a valid point in that regard. No offense, but posting nothing but memes isn't particularly helpful.

It's not a silly case to lynch someone when he's not looking for scum, even if we know that Fluffy acts like this in every game. We gave him a chance to act differently but he chose to stick to his usual behavior, despite the pressure. When one is the tally leader, he has to act Town, name who he figures is scum and try convincing the Town that he is not a good lynch (with arguments or a claim). He did nothing except moving his vote around, so players didn't unvote him, and I don't blame them.

You even acknowledge this when saying that "Romanic has a valid point", so why are you calling my case "silly"?

Also, you're saying that I am not looking for scum, but I am - pressuring someone who's impossible to read, is looking for scum. Fluffy isn't going to get a free pass to the endgame everytime he plays the meme act, not from me, no sir.

Andres

08-07-2011, 22:51

Gah!

And because I can't say a lot more than that about what happend last night: GAH!

That said, can somebody tell me why we are not lynching Double A?

Romanic

08-07-2011, 23:00

Axe guy (the BIG one with the BIG axe) has already missed a night before. It actually fits right in. He attacked N1, didn't attack N2, attacked N3, didn't attack N4.
The pearly lady was gone again and I think the green robe man who killed in her stead is the same we saw N3. Lady with the saber remains our only regular.

It all speaks for the option of the Mafia having more members than kills.

First let's fix your naming once and for all - 'pearly' lady was used in one writeup - You should refer to this character as the 'winged' lady, since she's shown having wings in all writeups she appeared in. Iirc Diamondeye proposed that she is a Valkyrie, and I agree with it.

Second, you're right to point that she is not around anymore, and I am seriously considering that she was God Emperor, who was lynched just before she disappeared. If so, then the mafia would need to have a new killer (assuming the mafia can kill twice, and pick who kills - I think it was like this in the previous game)

Andres

08-07-2011, 23:04

This is the second day in a row you're trying to get fluffy lynched based on an extremely flimsy, silly case.

Why aren't you trying to search for scum, Romanic? Do you really think fluffy is scum? If not, don't vote for him.

Vote: Romanic

As for fluffy, it would be nice if you actually contribute for once. Romanic has a valid point in that regard. No offense, but posting nothing but memes isn't particularly helpful.

FoS : Zack

There's so much wrong with that post.

First, you blame Romanic for making a filmsy case against fluffy, while all he did was pressuring fluffy to post something substantial instead of the usual meme's and funny guy act. You read an awful lot in a pressure vote and this "case" against Romanic smells fabricated.

Then, after you voted Romanic, you just basically agree with him.

That post smells fishy.

Tratorix

08-07-2011, 23:07

It's not a silly case to lynch someone when he's not looking for scum, even if we know that Fluffy acts like this in every game. We gave him a chance to act differently but he chose to stick to his usual behavior, despite the pressure. When one is the tally leader, he has to act Town, name who he figures is scum and try convincing the Town that he is not a good lynch (with arguments or a claim). He did nothing except moving his vote around, so players didn't unvote him, and I don't blame them.

This is a weak argument. If fluffy had named suspects and tried to save himself he would have been lynched anyway for acting out of character and trying to hard to not get lynched. It was an easy bandwagon and a lot of people jumped onto it.

Choxorn

08-07-2011, 23:09

Umm, do you mean that voting for TLD is scummy, or that TLD is scummy. I´m sure you can make two sentences out of that, it got me confused. I thought you meant to be funny at first.

If I thought that voting for TLD was scummy, why would I be doing it?

Nose of Suspicion: Khazaar

Zack

08-07-2011, 23:09

Then, after you voted Romanic, you just basically agree with him.
I said he has a point. I didn't say I thought fluffy was lynch-worthy.

EDIT: And Romanic, you voted fluffy because he "wasn't looking for scum", which you are also guilty for. What else would you call starting an easy bandwagon on someone for being silly, who you admit you don't necessarily think is scum?

Andres

08-07-2011, 23:11

This is a weak argument. If fluffy had named suspects and tried to save himself he would have been lynched anyway for acting out of character and trying to hard to not get lynched. It was an easy bandwagon and a lot of people jumped onto it.

Well, it was bound to happen one day.

You can't post silly stuff all the time and expect never to get lynched for it in each and every game :shrug:

People have been lynched for far less in these games.

I really don't see why you guys are reading so much into Romanic. All he did was pressuring fluffy.

He could've posted something serious or substantial for a change.

Andres

08-07-2011, 23:12

I said he has a point. I didn't say I thought fluffy was lynch-worthy.

EDIT: And Romanic, you voted fluffy because he "wasn't looking for scum", which you are also guilty for. What else would you call starting an easy bandwagon on someone for being silly, who you admit you don't necessarily think is scum?

The fact you only quoted that part of my post is interesting and makes you look even more suspicious.

TheLastDays

08-07-2011, 23:12

Gah!

And because I can't say a lot more than that about what happend last night: GAH!

That said, can somebody tell me why we are not lynching Double A?

Because I think Seon is more deserving of attention at the moment.

First let's fix your naming once and for all - 'pearly' lady was used in one writeup - You should refer to this character as the 'winged' lady, since she's shown having wings in all writeups she appeared in. Iirc Diamondeye proposed that she is a Valkyrie, and I agree with it.

Second, you're right to point that she is not around anymore, and I am seriously considering that she was God Emperor, who was lynched just before she disappeared. If so, then the mafia would need to have a new killer (assuming the mafia can kill twice, and pick who kills - I think it was like this in the previous game)

Alright, let's call her Valkyrie from now on then. I would like to agree with you because it would feel good to have caught scum already. But, honestly, after the secons failed attempt by big axe guy, GE's claims received some more credibility and at the moment I rather have him down as a townie who did a very dumb move with keeping back his information. I might be a bit biased, because I defended him on Day 1 but I think the scums have just switched who does the killing.