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Double A
09-30-2015, 19:16
Hey Kermit, you know what? Why don't we ask GH if you can't set up an anonymous QT with me. I wanna talk with you.
GeneralHankerchief
09-30-2015, 19:37
Day 2a
It had been an extremely strange 24 hours for Double A. Having first been appointed to the rank of Quartermaster the previous evening, he had spent the night witnessing an argument several people unhappy with the outcome of the Captain election and Kagemusha himself. Some of the more vocal parties in the argument had insinuated mutiny should Kage not lead to their satisfaction, and an official mutiny was thus instigated early on the next day.
Almost instantly the other two officers in Double A's regime - Kage and Andres - came under heavy fire. The mutiny started out strong, stalled in the afternoon, and then surged to become an inevitably by the end of the day. Andres, meanwhile, was not spared. Despite the mutiny currently brewing, there was still a regularly-scheduled execution to be carried out, and the First Mate looked like the obvious target. As a full three quarters of the crew of the Presence descended upon their Captain and cut him to pieces, Andres could only watch in horror. He knew he was next.
Despite this, Double A somehow came out of the mutiny not just as the only officer seemingly unblemished, but also as the leading candidate for the next Captain! As the votes started rolling in, he couldn't help himself from laughing at the ridiculousness of it all. Truly, pirates were the most fickle of creatures.
A moderate challenge from Curio as the "outsider" candidate proved little competition. Double A, disgraced ex-Quartermaster as of merely a few hours before, was swept into office as Captain with a huge margin of victory under his belt. He noted with some pleasure that Andres had survived his execution vote - apparently, the mutineers' bloodlust had been sated for the time being.
"I, uh..." Still not quite believing the situation he was in, Double A wasn't quite sure where to begin. "I, uh... thanks? I guess?" Some of the crew shifted around uncomfortably. This was it?
"Anyways, yeah, I promise to be a good Captain who be listenin' to and respectin' the opinions of his crew and all that, and makin' sure we be gettin' the most out of our haul from New Tortuga. Any questions, or if anybody needs to see me tonight, ye know where to find me."
"Captain, who be your officers?" The tension in the air was palpable. Surely he wouldn't pick Andres, would he?
"Ah, right. That. I hereby name NotJimRV as me First Mate and Visorslash as Quartermaster. Any other questions? Right, try not to kill each other tonight and see you all in the morning." And with that, Double A and his new officers retired for the evening.
Day 2a tally:
Captain election:
Double A: 14 (Double A, TheFlax, landlubber, Visorslash, Zack, autolycus, Choxorn, Ishmael, NotJimRV, seireikhaan, BSmith, Lissa, Golden1Knight)
Gaius Scribonius Curio: 3 (Gaius Scribonius Curio, Ironside, El Barto)
BSmith: 1 (Sprig)
Andres: 1 (Xiahou)
Spare Andres: 13 (Golden1Knight, Gaius Scribonius Curio, Ituralde, Double A, TheFlax, Ironside, landlubber, El Barto, Zack, autolycus, Xiahou, seireikhaan, BSmith)
Kill Andres: 7 (Visorslash, Sprig, Choxorn, Ishmael, spaceman98, Lissa, NotJimRV)
OOC: It is now Night 2. Please send in your orders. Night 2 will conclude on Thursday, October 1st, at 22:00 US Eastern Time.
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Attacked: spaceman98 (n1), Askthepizzaguy (n1)
Killed: TFT (n1)
Mutinied: Kagemusha (d2)
Souls aboard: (26)
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
autolycus
BSmith
Choxorn
Csargo
Double A
El Barto
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Golden1Knight
Ice
Ironside
Ishmael
Ituralde
johnhughthom
landlubber
Lissa
Montmorency
NotJimRV
seireikhaan
spaceman98
Sprig
TheFlax
Visorslash
Xiahou
Zack
Montmorency
09-30-2015, 20:15
I have foreseen this. :no:
Gaius Scribonius Curio
09-30-2015, 22:12
Care to enlighten us as to what exactly you have foreseen... and why it bothers you..?
Montmorency
09-30-2015, 22:29
The sparing of Andres, primarily on the basis that he will be fun to have around.
Double A
09-30-2015, 23:22
Right, lads, I know most of you don't give a rat's ass about finding the Frenchman.
I honestly can't promise you guys much, but I have a sneaky feeling that Pirate Ship Mafia 4 will be a hell of a lot different than what we're used to if the Frenchman wins. I, for one, want to keep taunting history, and make the tail end of this age last a little longer. Anyone else interested in slightly more than gold is welcome to PM me.
El Barto
10-01-2015, 00:16
If ye be a Captain, ye ought to behave like one. Savvy?
Why is anyone voting spare? Get some (delayed) flips happening from voting patterns imo.
I meself, fer one, be votin' whamever Curio tells me ta.
Double A
10-01-2015, 00:28
Based on recent precedent, that would involve getting myself thrown overboard.
El Barto
10-01-2015, 00:30
I be all in fer tha' -in any game!
Double A
10-01-2015, 00:35
What are you, some kind of turbulent priest?
Double A
10-01-2015, 02:55
Also, if anyone was curious about my role PM:
“Did somebody page the king of awesome?”
-Bowser (“http://www.mariowiki.com/Bowser”)
Bowser
Gwahahahar! You are Bowser, the King of the Koopa, kidnapper of Princess Peach, konquerer of the Mushroom Kingdom, and krusher of the Mario Bros.
What, do you really need me to tell you about yourself? This whole GAME is about YOU. Here’s a brief history of what you’ve done in the past month or so. It all started when Dr. Eggman warped you to his world. Once there, you went through a tough trial where you had to kill all of the traitor villains and the heroes in disguise, including the brother of your arch-nemesis: Luigi. Once that was done, you gained ultimate power using the Super Vague Weapon of Ambiguously Decided Doom- this power came in a small package called the Plot Device Star. You used this power in a not-completely-predictable manner by capturing Princess Peach and forcing Mario and his followers into hiding. Now, however, you’ve got intruders in your castle, and you suspect Mario is among them. In order to keep yourself safe, you’ve disguised yourself as one of your minions.
Your alignment is Koopa. (Town)
Victory Conditions:
Major- Nothing is acceptable except for your complete victory. After all, you deserve nothing less. In order to win, you must survive until the end, keep possession of the Plot Device Star, and kill Mario, as well as anyone else in your castle that is out to get you.
Minor- If, in the worst case scenario, you are killed by Mario (which will totally never happen), you can still hope for your minions to pull through and defeat all the infiltrators for you. If that happens, at least your children will be able to hold the kingdom together.
Abilities:
Disguise- In order to keep yourself safe, (even though you have nothing to be afraid of) you have disguised yourself as one of your minions, Tubba Blubba. When you are not making public announcements, you will take on this disguise and vote as if you were a normal minion. Here is the complete disguise:
“Uh… Five more minutes, mom.”
-http://www.mariowiki.com/Tubba_Blubba”]Tubba (“[url) Blubba[/URL]
Tubba Blubba
You are Tubba Blubba, a massive and powerful Clubba with a fine taste for Boos.
You were also the one Bowser entrusted to protect the third Star Spirit, Skolar. Bowser made you completely invincible by cutting out your heart and placing it under a windmill- unfortunately, Mario and his Boo friends managed to find said windmill, beat up your heart, and then beat you up after it hopped back in your body. You’re not so invincible any more, but you’re still a loyal member of Bowser’s Koopa Troop.
Your alignment is Koopa. (Town)
Victory Conditions:
Major- Defeat all of the intruders to the castle and keep Bowser from being killed by them as well. Additionally, keep the Plot Device Star in the hands of the Koopa Troop where it belongs.
Minor- If Bowser dies, all is not lost. If you can drive off all of the intruders from the castle, then perhaps the Koopa Troop will survive.
Guards- You have assigned 3 of your most trusted underlings to guard your room during the night. They know your identity and you know theirs, and as long as they live, any attack on your life will fail. These three minions are Boom-Boom (Tratorix), Reznor (Greyblades), and Goomboss (rhawn).
Plot Device Star- The Plot Device Star is currently in your possession. To avoid drawing attention, you will not use its power, but you must end the game in control of it to win. Beware: if you are killed, your killer will take it, and if your true identity becomes known, it will be able to be stolen as well.
This game is a little different. Regular folks who gain a bunch of gold don't really have to care about the French hunt that much.
Personally as long as they let me amass some gold I don't care what they do, and I'll say that open and plain as day. And what was the difference between that and me killing people? You of all people know killing roles are my favourite.
Andres appears to be on that wavelength, and frankly my only issues with Kage were related to was a centralized effort fun or not. He didn't look scummy to me and most of the reasons behind the mutiny felt contrived, as I said. And that's all well and good, if it were really just about gold. Then whatever, the Captain slot is the suicide slot at that point, and makes for easy pickings for gold hungry people.
Gold's a factor but not the main one.
I don't have any / many scum readings because I'm not looking for them. I am noticing certain folks behaving in a manner which seems consistent with my own viewpoint, and I think it's riskier to take that track than to make a pretense about being gung ho about groups and protections and vigs and whatnot, dressing up one's act to look like you're hunting scum seems pro-town on the surface but it's all too expected. And boring. Humorless is the word.
This is a fundamental disagreement here. It is extremely less risky to say you are hunting for gold/whatever. It attracts zero attention/frees you up to do... questionable things at night. I think you're dead wrong and pushing an agenda.
You don't usually find me suspicious until I do something suspicious which you can articulate. That's the big red flag. You never have simply a gut read on me. Not true, but I'm not going to debate this point either.
That's bogus. That's the first thing you've actually done this game which doesn't smell right.
You being openly aggressive and swatting down the scummy idea I shared with you privately about actually working with the French to get their gold since they probably don't care about it, feels like you're forcing it.
Only the first thing? :laugh4: I am openly aggressive, its my town playstyle, I love the freedom of being vanilla town. I also refuse to work with the french point blank and am not interested in some sort of gold trading scheme with them either. I'll hand the french the ship over my cold dead body.
By that I mean, I'm carefree and I can leave this ship anytime I want with my life and my meager amount of gold so far, and that would be a better ending for me than any poor schlubb that gets his neck ripped in half or stabbed or shot or cannonball-to-the-faced, regardless of how much gold they amass before they die.
Then why didn't you leave last night? You knew there was a hit out on you.
You, on the other hand, feel like you're trying to put on that pro-town persona, and being aggressive or a risk taker isn't outside of your scum meta.
Pro town? By supporting a mutiny, actively organising vig groups - being basically not caring how I come across? Maybe the vig groups are pro town but nothing I have done screams fake to me.
Your suspicion on me as a gut feeling is a lie. You know exactly what I did that's scummy and you know how to articulate it, if you're a townie. Nope.
You can assemble another vig group and kill me if you like. I'm demanding zero murder protection this game, I don't want it, don't care. I'm far more interested in lynching you then nightkilling you - for spew reasons mostly.
But you, Visor, are fake.
Reply and stuff.
This is great stuff. I'm enjoying it immensely, really amazing so far.
Quality sarcasm. :laugh4:
Anyway for something real, I've heard tales of you being in two places at once last night Csar, care to elaborate?
Reply and stuff.
but fighting french is BORING
as opposed to ignoring your enemy and just stealing gold each night, that's exciting, even if it leaves you with no interest or stake in the day's events
I don't really care to share any information with you honestly. Doesn't benefit me at all. I dislike the business you're involved in.
I don't really care to share any information with you honestly. Doesn't benefit me at all. I dislike the business you're involved in.
I'm involved with no business now as all can attest to. My duty is to be the quartermaster of this ship, no more no less.
I'd like you to clear up what you did simply because being in two places at once seems a tad strange to me. You're also not denying it.
I don't really care to share any information with you honestly. Doesn't benefit me at all. I dislike the business you're involved in.
So you have no explanation for why two separate groups of people think you were participating in their group action last night?
I'm involved with no business now as all can attest to. My duty is to be the quartermaster of this ship, no more no less.
I'd like you to clear up what you did simply because being in two places at once seems a tad strange to me. You're also not denying it.
Cool story broyevsky. I stand by my previous statement of not telling you anything. You're clearly getting information from somewhere, so I'll let you figure it out with them.
Cool story broyevsky. I stand by my previous statement of not telling you anything. You're clearly getting information from somewhere, so I'll let you figure it out with them.
It be the plank for ye landlubber!
So you have no explanation for why two separate groups of people think you were participating in their group action last night?
I don't know why anyone thinks anything, outside of what I think. My thoughts are private though, no peeking ~;)
I don't know why anyone thinks anything, outside of what I think. My thoughts are private though, no peeking ~;)
Can't make any promises when it comes to peeking at your privates, sorry.
It be the plank for ye landlubber!
I guess my explanation wasn't satisfactory. Oh well, you win some you lose some.
Can't make any promises when it comes to peeking at your privates, sorry.
Fair enough.
I guess my explanation wasn't satisfactory. Oh well, you win some you lose some.
Well it was hardly an explanation. We have two groups of people who to their understanding you were working with them.
I think it deserves some explanation as to why you ditched them? Assuming you ditched both.
Well it was hardly an explanation. We have two groups of people who to their understanding you were working with them.
I think it deserves some explanation as to why you ditched them? Assuming you ditched both.
I'm hurt you'd say that. I felt it was a fine bit of explaining myself.
The information is out there, you've just got to find it. You're capable of extracting it from somewhere, clearly. I believe in you!
Montmorency
10-01-2015, 04:25
Well, we have means of getting the information automatically.
It's called the lynch.
What a buzzkill. It's not fun being in the dark, huh? Who would have thought that...
Stealing?
How dare you sir! I'm an honorable pirate! Not a thief! Insults abound, my character destroyed sir!
Montmorency
10-01-2015, 04:39
Only Frenchmen are so concerned with honor and pithy sarcasm.
It be the plank for ye landlubber!
What do you have against landlubber? landlubber and Csargo be two different people, mate.
Ituralde
10-01-2015, 07:32
Ah it's hard to be talkin like a pirate to landlubbers, when there be a real landlubber among us. Glad there be no Scurvy or Sea Dog!
Askthepizzaguy
10-01-2015, 08:35
Yeah, Visor, I'm aware that stealing gold as opposed to lining up in groups makes it harder to solve the game for others.
I don't care about that. You want another solve by spreadsheet kind of game, you go ahead.
You want to lynch a french person by day, bring me a candidate. If it's me I'll laugh in your face, as I'm jumping off the plank.
You want to find a french person here and you won't, all the signs I'm not french are buzzing in glowing glass tubes right above your head.
And yeah, doing what I'm doing might mean I don't get recruited or shot. Hmmm! Imagine.
But just because I'm not regimented and team oriented doesn't mean my heart isn't the most like a pirate on this whole bleeding ship. Save Andres, of course, for being even more like a leader on that point than I.
You really want to repeat and follow in the footsteps of the spreadsheet solvers and make it a contest to see who sounds the most protown, I'll make it really simple for you.
While you chase down selfish sounding pirates, the French will own this ship and you'll be tossed overboard shortly afterward.
And I'll laugh at you from my little boat, or from the bottom of the deep. This is your only warning about that. You'll sound a fool all voyage and die in disgrace, and it won't be me who made it happen either.
You can either smarten up and absorb a bit of this foreshadowing or you can kill me or scan me or jail me or lynch me.
And after you're done, you might start doing something that works toward your purported goal of finding the french.
Askthepizzaguy
10-01-2015, 08:39
If you're going to be this much of a buzzkill and also wrong, then I don't mind being the distraction that helps the French own your lily-livered buttocks.
*takes a swig of grog, spits it at you*
How's that, "Quartermaster?" Hahahahahaha!!!
You're nothing to me. :pirate2:
A buzzkill? :laugh4:
How am I being a buzzkill? I've had the most fun in this game bar almost anyone! I lead a close captain run for some random (sorry NJ :p) against Kage who is a well known entity, without having to bribe anyone (except attempting to bribe AA and I think autolycus but he never replied) except when it got close. I then organised vig groups for people to (generally) kill off lurkers - I like killing roles, its my favourite role. Then I got to help lead a successful mutiny against a captain - I can't even remember if there has been a mutiny before in PS. I then somehow get elected to Quartermaster and am now an advisory role for people who want to do things.
So I'm definitely not a buzzkill to myself - lets see about everyone else.
All the people that wanted to perform actions that I helped organise for them - not sure they're going to complain too much regardless of their alignment. Drama in thread? Plenty so far because of me. Pushing NJ, having a mutiny, etc.
So no, I've not been a buzzkill to others.
The last point about buzzkillington - I'm hunting scum. I'm hunting people who to my mind are doing legitimately scummy things in and out of thread. Gold is fine and sure I'd like to have a lot of it when my time is up, but hunting the french is a big part of why mafia is interesting and its far more interesting then doing nothing in the game and sending in a steal order every night.
Who's Mr Fun now? :laugh4:
Yeah, Visor, I'm aware that stealing gold as opposed to lining up in groups makes it harder to solve the game for others.
I don't care about that. You want another solve by spreadsheet kind of game, you go ahead.
No, I'm saying its an action which is easy to hide in. And lol with the spreadsheet stuff. Ask literally ANY player in the game and they will tell you there is no spreadsheet, there is no record of night actions. You think I WANT another solve by spreadsheet game? Christ no. I'm here to have fun.
You want to lynch a french person by day, bring me a candidate. If it's me I'll laugh in your face, as I'm jumping off the plank.
Cry me a river mate.
You want to find a french person here and you won't, all the signs I'm not french are buzzing in glowing glass tubes right above your head. Right.
And yeah, doing what I'm doing might mean I don't get recruited or shot. Hmmm! Imagine. Well you might get shot! :laugh4: And why would you not get recruited? Thats an absurd argument to make - mostly because it makes zero sense.
But just because I'm not regimented and team oriented doesn't mean my heart isn't the most like a pirate on this whole bleeding ship. Save Andres, of course, for being even more like a leader on that point than I.
Er right. I think we fundamentally disagree on who is more piratey.
You really want to repeat and follow in the footsteps of the spreadsheet solvers and make it a contest to see who sounds the most protown, I'll make it really simple for you. Except I'm not, never claimed to have done and have no intention of doing so.
While you chase down selfish sounding pirates, the French will own this ship and you'll be tossed overboard shortly afterward. That is also not what I'm doing/ I'm trying to kill people who are legitimately scummy to me.
And I'll laugh at you from my little boat, or from the bottom of the deep. This is your only warning about that. You'll sound a fool all voyage and die in disgrace, and it won't be me who made it happen either. Scary.
You can either smarten up and absorb a bit of this foreshadowing or you can kill me or scan me or jail me or lynch me.
And after you're done, you might start doing something that works toward your purported goal of finding the french.
Are you quite finished?
I am all for passionate tirades - but please get your info right and your targets correct.
Montmorency
10-01-2015, 16:51
Pizza has become much more confident since the first round.
A confident Pizza following the fatalist Pizza - well, at least he's added some meat for us to chew down later...
Only Frenchmen are so concerned with honor and pithy sarcasm.
Aw man you got me. Should have been more clever about it.
El Barto
10-01-2015, 22:47
What are you, some kind of turbulent priest?
Away wi' ye, back inta the shadows whence ye came!
I'm an honorable pirate! Not a thief!
We steals other people's properties, goods, livestock, an' wenches. Be we not thiefs?
Double A
10-01-2015, 22:54
It's not theft if you kill em first.
El Barto
10-01-2015, 22:56
Arrr, ye be right! The English courts o' law be callin' tha' res nullius. O' course, they might catch ye in a court o' equity or, worse, hunt ye fer murder.
Away wi' ye, back inta the shadows whence ye came!
We steals other people's properties, goods, livestock, an' wenches. Be we not thiefs?
I don't steal from me own kind!
El Barto
10-01-2015, 23:02
Be tha' why ye refused to open fire on the shippin' flyin' under the tricolour?
Montmorency
10-01-2015, 23:11
Vote: Csargo Embargo
"Where ye be hiding those Wenches? *Squawk*"
El Barto
10-02-2015, 00:00
Arrr! Zoophilia be not permitted! Parrots be to stay away fram wenches!
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2015, 02:56
Note before I resolve orders: In the Kage mutiny summary post, I said there were three pieces of gold left over that went to the first three mutineers: Zack, Visor, and Lissa. I failed to take into account the fact that Kage made a post that day phase and thus was due another 3 gold. Because of this, the next three sailors who latched onto the mutiny are also going to get an extra piece of gold: Ishmael, Montmorency, and landlubber.
Night 2 will conclude momentarily.
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2015, 03:00
Night 2 has ended, no more orders will be accepted.
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2015, 04:14
Night 2
The Presence's northward journey continued, though this time the stars were not out, playing havoc with the navigators. In addition, the wind was starting to pick up uncomfortably. Conditions were clearly starting to get worse, but it was nothing out of the ordinary... yet.
seireikhaan had the unenviable task of Crow's Nest duty that night. As long as it wasn't raining, the job was bearable, but the cloud cover meant that he wasn't able to look at the stars, which was his usual activity whenever he drew the duty. Instead, he now actually had to focus on - ugh - his job.
khaan looked all around, searching for any sign of activity on the Atlantic. This could have been land (though he doubted he could see it anyway), possibly random debris floating around in the sea, or sailors who had accidentally gone overboard and needed help. However, the thing that khaan was most on the lookout for was ships. Being a pirate vessel in 1723 necessitated constant watch for naval activity. Doubly so if you were the most infamous pirate ship in this part of the world. Triplicate if you were coming off a hasty flight fresh off sacking a city with La Royale in known pursuit.
And so, khaan continued to look fore and aft, port and starboard, doing his duty by covering all directions. However, in all his viewing, he never once looked down. This proved to be a fatal mistake on his part.
Somebody had scaled the main mast from below and joined him in the Crow's Nest. khaan, befuddled, was just about to ask if his relief had come early when the sailor, looking particularly angry, grabbed him and physically threw him out of the Nest.
Screaming, khaan had managed to somehow grab onto a piece of rigging, which saved him from an immediate death. Instead of crashing to the ground in free fall, he instead landed very awkwardly. Immediately he tried to run for it, but was set upon by four sailors who did not let him get back up. Not even bothering to draw their cutlasses, the four of them - soon joined by the fifth who had originally scaled the mast - mercilessly pummeled khaan to death. After they threw his corpse overboard, they went back below deck, pleased with their work, the one who had originally scaled the mast with hat in hand.
For a while now, Csargo had been known as the most skilled gunner on the Presence. Nobody could quite handle a cannon like him, and he had proven it to great effect over the course of many adventures. Over the past year, the practice of gunnery had become something of an obsession to Csargo. He had recently taken to telling his fellow crewmen that his life's ambition was to fire the shot that sunk ships on all seven seas.
The three men who attacked him - some of whom looked confused as to the exact makeup of their squad - probably should have kept this in mind when they approached him. As he came into sight, there was a deafening *BANG!* and, an instant later, the unmistakable whistling sound of a heavy object passing very closely overhead at a very fast speed. Csargo was ready for them.
"I already be havin' me next shot loaded," he yelled, supremely confident, "and this one won't be a warning shot! What'll it be, mateys, retreat, or play dice that my cannonball doesn't take *your* head off and just one of yer fellows instead?"
Csargo's attackers stopped dead, briefly looking at each other. Luckily for them, they quickly achieved consensus: This wasn't worth dying for. Cursing, they retreated back below decks, leaving Csargo to smirk and resume practicing his gunnery.
For most of the night, Ironside had been making his preparations. An old salt like him always knew which way the wind was blowing, and he didn't like the directional change he was seeing. Not with the mutiny the previous day and several insinuations the mutineers had made about what the crew of the Presence was to do next. He had acquired a good haul, made the most of his time aboard, and survived the tumultuous first days and night aboard. Any longer than that and he would seriously be pushing his luck.
"Right... gold, personal effects, cutlass, change o' clothes... I think that be everything!" he muttered to himself. "It's been fun, Presence, but I think it be time for us to part ways. I not be particularly fancying me -" he stopped midsentence - "oh, come on! I was so close!"
Four sailors, cutlasses out, had approached him, their intention quite clearly read on their faces.
"Aha! Tryin' to bail with the goods, eh? What's the matter Ironside, it get too hot for ye Frenchies?"
Ironside sighed. He wasn't particularly scared, just tired. "Alright lads, ye caught me. Look, if it's all the same to ye, I'd much rather live through this. Ye clearly want me off the ship, right?" They nodded. "Well, ye be in luck - that's what I was plannin' to do anyway. Now, what be the going rate for killings again? 10 pieces of treasure per?" That sounded right. "What say I just give each of ye that rate from me own personal stash and then we part ways. Would that be a fair accord?"
The four attackers briefly lowered their cutlasses in a quick conference with each other. In the meantime, Ironside, clearly not caring for the answer, continued to make his preparations. After a minute, one of them spoke to him.
"Alright, it be agreed. 10 gold a head, and be quick about it!" Ironside nodded, paid each man his fee, and lowered his dinghy into the Atlantic, himself and his significantly smaller sack of treasure inside. Not sparing a single look back at the Presence, he paddled off to parts unknown, hoping he had made the right decision.
The next morning, Captain Double A, appearing to almost dead what was waiting for him, gathered the crew to make his announcement. "Well mateys, we lost two more overnight. I can't be findin' no trace of either seireikhaan or Ironside, though judging by the missing dinghy I be guessin' one or both of 'em decided they had enough.
"Cap'n, I can report that only Ironside left, some of us was tryin' to kill him as it happened."
Double A goggled. "And why were ye trying to kill him? And why'd you openly admit that???"
The other sailor shrugged. "I don't know, gold I guess? Oh, and he might have been French too. Yeah, that."
Double A sighed. "Fine. Let's assume we've got one murder and one abandoning. Clearly there still be crime aboard. Therefore, the system remains in place. Get voting!"
OOC: It is now Day 3. Voting will last until Saturday, October 3rd, at 14:00 US Eastern Time.
Feedback PMs are incoming.
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Attacked: spaceman98 (n1), Askthepizzaguy (n1), Csargo (n2)
Killed: TFT (n1), seireikhaan (n2)
Mutinied: Kagemusha (d2)
Abandoned Ship: Ironside (n2)
Souls aboard: (24)
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
autolycus
BSmith
Choxorn
Csargo
Double A
El Barto
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Golden1Knight
Ice
Ishmael
Ituralde
johnhughthom
landlubber
Lissa
Montmorency
NotJimRV
spaceman98
Sprig
TheFlax
Visorslash
Xiahou
Zack
If I recall correctly, we got details about when the Spanish recruited last game. If we can assume the same here - it would mean no recruitment just yet.
El Barto
10-02-2015, 04:23
Ironside: mighty fine o' ye ta pay us ten doubloons. Next time, have another ten doubloons ready, mate!
Methinks the French be plannin' simultaneous convershuns, but tha' be jus' me, wee Visorslashie.
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 04:30
Unfortunately, I've been stolen from again. Money from Ironside just-barely balanced it out. :mean:
Vote: Andres
It's time.
Hi! I continue to exist, feel free to have me lynched now. I know you want to. :hanged:
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2015, 04:37
Announcement: It was recently brought to my attention that there may be an issue with the amount of gold awarded by a successful mutiny. I'm going to finish sending out PMs and then make a further announcement.
Vote: Xiahou
Time to walk the plank Frenchie.
If I recall correctly, we got details about when the Spanish recruited last game. If we can assume the same here - it would mean no recruitment just yet.
There was talk at some point of GH debating whether or not to make that public in future games.
What's the deal with Ironside?
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 04:43
Mutiny.
Do it.
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 04:43
Could have been town - could've caught wind from someone in the know.
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2015, 04:43
All feedback PMs are sent.
All mutineers add an extra 10 gold to their provided count. In order to keep PM traffic down, I'm not going to send you an updated total but have adjusted my own spreadsheet. If you have any questions, PM me.
Vote: Xiahou
Time to walk the plank Frenchie.
Care to expound?
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 04:47
The best I can figure is that he's one of the long-term thieves. Not sure why he should die over Andres today.
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 04:50
Care to expound?
Oh come now, don't be so demanding of our dear leadership. I'm sure they're doing the best they can, with the most honorable of intentions.
Care to expound?
He's French.
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 04:52
Wait, who's on first base?
There was talk at some point of GH debating whether or not to make that public in future games.
What's the deal with Ironside?
Highly likely he thought he was a target/somebody told him he was.
He's French.
Now I know most pirates didn't grow up in environments conducive to a strong education, so when I ask if you need a dictionary to look up "expound," I mean it in the kindest way.
Now I know most pirates didn't grow up in environments conducive to a strong education, so when I ask if you need a dictionary to look up "expound," I mean it in the kindest way.
He's French.
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 04:57
He's French.
Yes, that clarifies everything. Thank you so much.
Yes, that clarifies everything. Thank you so much.
I'm guessing he bailed matey.
He's French.
Vote: Visorslash
He's french. :yes:
1. He's been behaving suspiciously all game.
2. He's voted for me. I know I am not french, therefore my suspicions against him are raised even further.
Can anyone give me a compelling reason why he shouldn't be lynched?
1. He's been behaving suspiciously all game.
Care to expound?
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 05:06
Unvote; Vote: Xiahou
:thumbsdown:
Now let's focus on getting rid of Andres.
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 05:08
Vote: Visorslash
He's french. :yes:
1. He's been behaving suspiciously all game.
2. He's voted for me. I know I am not french, therefore my suspicions against him are raised even further.
Can anyone give me a compelling reason why he shouldn't be lynched?
Woah, c'mon man, there's no need to go throwing baseless accusations against our leadership like this, especially not in public. If you've got any concerns, by all means feel free to take it to them in private and I'm sure they'll make sure you're taken care of.
Woah, c'mon man, there's no need to go throwing baseless accusations against our leadership like this, especially not in public. If you've got any concerns, by all means feel free to take it to them in private and I'm sure they'll make sure you're taken care of.
Can't argue with that really.
Woah, c'mon man, there's no need to go throwing baseless accusations against our leadership like this, especially not in public. If you've got any concerns, by all means feel free to take it to them in private and I'm sure they'll make sure you're taken care of.
:inquisitive:
He also had me thrown in the brig last night... which worked out rather well for me since I didn't send any night orders. I just got free protection out of it.
I'd still be curious what his reasoning behind it was though. :yes:
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 05:14
JHT, what are your thoughts?
Xiahou, care to state how you started with 150 gold?
I have my suspicions but lets see what you answer.
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 05:16
STOP
Both of you have some explaining to do.
:inquisitive:
He also had me thrown in the brig last night... which worked out rather well for me since I didn't send any night orders. I just got free protection out of it.
I'd still be curious what his reasoning behind it was though. :yes:
Why wouldn't you send in orders?
And since when does the brig offer protection?
Xiahou, care to state how you started with 150 gold?
I have my suspicions but lets see what you answer.
I didn't start with 150 gold. :shrug:
I didn't start with 150 gold. :shrug:
Then how do you have 200 gold?
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 05:20
Unvote: Xiahou
OK, so what's the paper trail here.
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2015, 05:21
And since when does the brig offer protection?
To clarify, the brig doesn't offer protection. I know it seems like it does from a realism perspective, but it doesn't (don't know how I'd go about writing that scene, guess the attackers would break into the brig or something). If the Quartermaster wants to protect somebody, that's a separate order and they can't throw anyone in the brig that night.
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 05:21
Nevermind
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 05:24
[snip - GH]
Go on. Actually, no.
If you have something of significance there, then you can't speak of it anyway.
So this line has no substance.
Vote:Visorslash
Insert reasons here.
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 05:26
I would see half the players dead before Visorslash. Rethink your position.
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 05:30
I would see half the players dead before Visorslash. Rethink your position.
See? Monty's got this under wraps. If he trusts the town leaderhsip, obviously they are doing the right thing. I, for one, am glad the town leadership is doing the right things. After all, we've had a whole two nights and days to to conclusively establish these things.
See? Monty's got this under wraps. If he trusts the town leaderhsip, obviously they are doing the right thing. I, for one, am glad the town leadership is doing the right things. After all, we've had a whole two nights and days to to conclusively establish these things.
What point are you even trying to make?
I would see half the players dead before Visorslash. Rethink your position.
I thought about it a lot really. Whatever your reasons for trusting him, I have none. Considering everything my vote will stay, unless something better is revealed.
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 05:34
To be fair, I am not aware that the town leadership was aware that khaan would be attacked last night. :coffeenews:
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 05:36
What point are you even trying to make?
Why, I'm not making a point. I am just enthusiastically encouraging people to have faith in the highly effective and honest town echo chamber we've established.
I thought about it a lot really. Whatever your reasons for trusting him, I have none. Considering everything my vote will stay, unless something better is revealed.
What reason do you have to trust anyone?
I find it disheartening how many people openly admit, without shame, that they simply don't give a shit about finding the French.
Why, I'm not making a point. I am just enthusiastically encouraging people to have faith in the highly effective and honest town echo chamber we've established.
:rolleyes: Are you done crying about your death now?
See? Monty's got this under wraps. If he trusts the town leaderhsip, obviously they are doing the right thing. I, for one, am glad the town leadership is doing the right things. After all, we've had a whole two nights and days to to conclusively establish these things.
I think coordinators r us is a pretty good name.
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 05:37
GeneralHankerchief
Might there any particular aspects (i.e. powers) to the Officer roles that are not explicitly outlined in the rules?
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2015, 05:39
Might there any particular aspects (i.e. powers) to the Officer roles that are not explicitly outlined in the rules?
I'm not ruling it out.
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 05:41
To be fair, I am not aware that the town leadership was aware that khaan would be attacked last night. :coffeenews:
And I'm sure they'll be able to confirm that for you.
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 05:42
:rolleyes: Are you done crying about your death now?
Why, who's crying? I merely wish to encourage the town posthumously to compensate for my living self's poor showing.
I merely wish to encourage the town posthumously to compensate for my living self's poor showing.
If a joke's not funny the first time, it's still not funny the fifth time.
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 05:53
If a joke's not funny the first time, it's still not funny the fifth time.
Who's joking? Because I'm not laughing.
Then how do you have 200 gold?
I don't. Are you selling loot security systems or something? Sheesh. You may as well be hanging a "Steal from Xiahou" sign outside my bunk. :no:
To clarify, the brig doesn't offer protection. I know it seems like it does from a realism perspective, but it doesn't (don't know how I'd go about writing that scene, guess the attackers would break into the brig or something). If the Quartermaster wants to protect somebody, that's a separate order and they can't throw anyone in the brig that night.Well, that's good to know. I assumed that protection and blocking were both functions of the same mechanism... ie: in the brig you were safe, but couldn't do anything.
I would see half the players dead before Visorslash. Rethink your position.
He's probably planning on recruiting the other half. ~:handball:
landlubber
10-02-2015, 06:01
I feel like most people distrust Visor just because he's been good at coordinating but for no real reason beyond that. It's easy to think that the guy who knows a lot must be scum, but no one seems to have a real case against him yet.
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 06:02
OK, let's start from N1.
Xiahou, I contacted you N1 to recruit you to a protection group.
You responded favorably, but by that time I had a full group. I urged you to seek out the late-Captain Kagemusha, who was looking to organize the inactives.
After that point, what were you doing?
I don't. Are you selling loot security systems or something? Sheesh. You may as well be hanging a "Steal from Xiahou" sign outside my bunk. :no:
Well, that's good to know. I assumed that protection and blocking were both functions of the same mechanism... ie: in the brig you were safe, but couldn't do anything.
He's probably planning on recruiting the other half. ~:handball:
This is literally outing and I'll give up the Quartermaster position to prove it.
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 06:10
I feel like most people distrust Visor just because he's been good at coordinating but for no real reason beyond that. It's easy to think that the guy who knows a lot must be scum, but no one seems to have a real case against him yet.
Yes. I'm just jealous. If only I could be as good as the illustrious town guv'ment.
What reason do you have to trust anyone?
I find it disheartening how many people openly admit, without shame, that they simply don't give a shit about finding the French.
I don't trust anyone atm. I never claimed I did. Assumed from Monty's statement that he did and merely said I didn't.
Im not ATPG and I never implied or said anything like that. I don't particularly care about the gold or the networking aspects. I simply want to get rid of people who are detrimental to the pirates.
He called me out in the thread and either caused someone to attack me or put it together himself. Instead of Pming me and asking me what happened, he decided to put it all out there in the thread. I could have just put it all out in the thread, but I decided not to. You guys mutinied and got rid of the only person who would have been able to corroborate my story. I find his methods harmful overall and his post's lacking for someone who seemingly should have a large deal of information. Both you and Visor seem nonchalant and conceited for people who claim to be hunting the French, while all you've really done is vig people who you decide are suspicious as far as I can tell.
But please tell me more about how I don't give a :daisy:
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 06:12
Ordnung muss sein. :shrug:
Double A
10-02-2015, 06:13
I am extremely dissatisfied with the current administration
vote: mutiny
What reason do you have to trust anyone?
I find it disheartening how many people openly admit, without shame, that they simply don't give a shit about finding the French.
Wait, we can curse on the org now? :daisy:' A.
[You can to an extent. Not that one. - GH]
Also vote: Xiahou for having 50 more gold than he should. If you all will recall, the Frenchman last game had an ability to outbid the captain. It's not unreasonable to imagine that there is a similar mechanic this game, though probably with a harder to achieve goal. He probably got the extra gold from his partners.
That, or he's King Orgnum.
N1: Double A threw me in the brig, and then he contacted me because he was suspicious of why I had so much gold. I had around 132 or something then and he named the exact amount. I explained that I had 130 or so because of the three invites - Ironside, Lissa and NotJimRV.
Now, N2, I threw Xiahou in the brig because I thought he was french - AA and Jim can confirm with logs if necessary. And I was also interested to see his gold total - which is a perk of the quartermaster role. He had 200 and I thought to myself damn, thats a lot. Did the math and he could only have gotten some if he was willed it - but I highly doubt anyone had a will setup or khaan expected to die (I didn't expect him to be dead either - I knew nothing about the kill fwiw).
All he had to do was say khaan gave him the money - but HE DID NOT.
Therefore he must have started with more gold then usual. IIRC my frenchman role last game had more gold then usual at the start.
Now why is this important? There are theories around that the frenchman has more starting gold, gold is needed to recruit and a few other things - I think gaius told me one of those but that not important.
The frenchman role had a power last game where if he had 400 gold he could outright bribe the captain.
I cannot see a legitimate reason for Xiahou to have 200 gold unless he is scum.
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 06:17
Solution: Double A steps down, we elect Xiahou Captain, then mutiny, then re-elect Double A.
Piratey enough for you naysayers?
Vote:Xiahou
No, because he is going to have his first mate spite vig me. Or shoot me himself. :laugh4:
Im not ATPG and I never implied or said anything like that. I don't particularly care about the gold or the networking aspects. I simply want to get rid of people who are detrimental to the pirates.
What does that mean?
He called me out in the thread
:bigcry:
and either caused someone to attack me or put it together himself.
:bigcry:
Instead of Pming me and asking me what happened, he decided to put it all out there in the thread.
:bigcry:
What exactly is wrong with that? What is suspicious about it? Can you give a reason other than oh my god visor sucks?
I could have just put it all out in the thread, but I decided not to.
Because...?
You guys mutinied and got rid of the only person who would have been able to corroborate my story.
You don't even have a story.
I find his methods harmful overall
What is harmful about it?
and his post's lacking for someone who seemingly should have a large deal of information.
All of his posts?
Both you and Visor seem nonchalant and conceited for people who claim to be hunting the French
How is that the case and why would it even matter?
while all you've really done is vig people who you decide are suspicious as far as I can tell.
As opposed to protecting suspicious people? Is vigging suspicious people wrong?
But please tell me more about how I don't give a :daisy:
Apparently you were in two places at one time, and you couldn't even be bothered to give any explanation at all. Today you voted Visor and couldn't be bothered to even fabricate a reason. I don't see you saying anywhere you think he's French. Tell me more about you do care about the French, and not just getting rid of someone who suspects you.
Mutiny.
Do it.
??
:inquisitive:
He also had me thrown in the brig last night... which worked out rather well for me since I didn't send any night orders. I just got free protection out of it.
I'd still be curious what his reasoning behind it was though. :yes:
Why would you not send in any order?
I don't
Are you saying Visor is lying about the scanned amount of gold you have?
Vote: Xiahou
Double A
10-02-2015, 06:24
If Visor's lying, then he only has three days to win the game. I don't think that's enough.
Incidentally, I think our ship is going a little slow. I hope we don't get caught by the pursuit. We should probably jettison some csargo to speed ourselves up.
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 06:25
Now why is this important? There are theories around that the frenchman has more starting gold, gold is needed to recruit and a few other things - I think gaius told me one of those but that not important.
Yes. Lynch Xiahou because there's a chance that the frenchman has more starting gold. Let's ignore anyone else that might have a highly suspicious role setup.
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2015, 06:26
A couple of clarifications: First of all, the Captain can't vote (even for mutiny :laugh4:), he can only advise.
Solution: Double A steps down, we elect Xiahou Captain, then mutiny, then re-elect Double A.
I swear to god if you guys make me run a second bonus day phase in as many days I'm not going to be happy.
Yes. Lynch Xiahou because there's a chance that the frenchman has more starting gold. Let's ignore anyone else that might have a highly suspicious role setup.
I'm not ignoring it Khaan. Believe me.
Double A
10-02-2015, 06:26
No, let's lynch him because he was called out for having a suspiciously large pile of gold and then failing to explain how he came across it.
Double A
10-02-2015, 06:27
A couple of clarifications: First of all, the Captain can't vote (even for mutiny :laugh4:), he can only advise.
I swear to god if you guys make me run a second bonus day phase in as many days I'm not going to be happy.
what if I make more puns
vote: xiahou
I also really dislike Csargo's line of reaction to this.
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 06:30
I'm not ignoring it Khaan. Believe me.
I'm sure. Your boss has instilled much confidence in me.
vote: xiahou
I also really dislike Csargo's line of reaction to this.
Get in line.
Double A
10-02-2015, 06:32
Here's all the confidence you need, matey.
16620
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2015, 06:37
I'm going to be logging off for the night in an hour or two, so consider this a friendly heads-up from me, speaking as Moderator (and not just the host):
Currently the level of discussion in this thread (amount of profanity, tone of posts, etc) is a bit before the borderline of being un-Gameroomish. Let's please ensure that it stays on that side of the line. Remember, we want to keep the environment friendly.
My thanks. :bow:
Are you saying Visor is lying about the scanned amount of gold you have?
Vote: Xiahou
Lying is such an ugly word. I'm saying he's wrong. I do not have 200 gold.
I really do appreciate the amount of attention that is being drawn to my finances though. It's really helpful. Suggesting that I'm fantastically wealthy will no doubt be oh so helpful for my future here. Thanks.
Lying is such an ugly word. I'm saying he's wrong. I do not have 200 gold.
I really do appreciate the amount of attention that is being drawn to my finances though. It's really helpful. Suggesting that I'm fantastically wealthy will no doubt be oh so helpful for my future here. Thanks.
Why would he be wrong and not lying? That makes no sense.
Why would he be wrong and not lying? That makes no sense.
I can't answer why he'd lie. All I know is that he's wrong. I know exactly how much gold I have and it's not 200. :shrug:
What does that mean?
Wow, really? Well played. What else would you be referring to?
:bigcry:
:bigcry:
:bigcry:
Okay, that's good stuff.
What exactly is wrong with that? What is suspicious about it? Can you give a reason other than oh my god visor sucks?
Well, considering the vast majority of this game has been about networking, I don't see why it was necessary to do it that way. Do you think I would have been attacked if it hadn't been done that way?
Because...?
Principle
You don't even have a story.
Seriously? Kage got elected captain and tried to put inactives in groups like Monty said a few posts ago. I declined and told him I already was in one. He didn't pass that along to the other two fellows.
What is harmful about it?
I don't know. What's harmful about vigging random people?
All of his posts?
The one's I've read from the last day or so. I'd say in my opinion.
How is that the case and why would it even matter?
Wow.
As opposed to protecting suspicious people? Is vigging suspicious people wrong?
You could prolong the game by not offing random people that a select few find suspicious. I'd say it's bad overall and shortens the game if done constantly. More rounds equals more information and more concise targeting.
Apparently you were in two places at one time, and you couldn't even be bothered to give any explanation at all. Today you voted Visor and couldn't be bothered to even fabricate a reason. I don't see you saying anywhere you think he's French. Tell me more about you do care about the French, and not just getting rid of someone who suspects you.
They weren't even aware that I didn't submit orders, so the only reason any of you know about it is because I was forthcoming after the fact and told them what Kage didn't. It's funny really, considering I caused it. Why else would I have voted him? Yeah, because that's the smart play here. Vote the guy who called you out in the thread. You've got some strange opinions about what guilty people do.
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 06:52
Gaius, do you have anything to say about Csargo?
How much is it then?
If you don't believe me when I say it's not 200, why would you believe me if I gave a different number? I'm not in the business of disclosing my finances.
I will say that I started with 110 gold. How much I have now shouldn't be anyone's business. I think we're wasting a lot of time and energy on this side-show though.
Gaius, do you have anything to say about Csargo?
I like your style. Thanks.
I'm going to be logging off for the night in an hour or two, so consider this a friendly heads-up from me, speaking as Moderator (and not just the host):
Currently the level of discussion in this thread (amount of profanity, tone of posts, etc) is a bit before the borderline of being un-Gameroomish. Let's please ensure that it stays on that side of the line. Remember, we want to keep the environment friendly.
My thanks. :bow:
My apologies if I crossed a line. I didn't intend to.
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2015, 07:00
My apologies if I crossed a line. I didn't intend to.
Nobody has, yet. I'm just pre-emptively making sure it stays that way. :yes:
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 07:00
If you don't believe me when I say it's not 200, why would you believe me if I gave a different number? I'm not in the business of disclosing my finances.
I will say that I started with 110 gold. How much I have now shouldn't be anyone's business. I think we're wasting a lot of time and energy on this side-show though.
What do you think we're playing here, Audit Mafia?
Come up with another line.
spaceman98
10-02-2015, 07:02
I am extremely dissatisfied with the current administration
vote: mutiny
Wait, we can curse on the org now? :daisy:' A.
[You can to an extent. Not that one. - GH]
Also vote: Xiahou for having 50 more gold than he should. If you all will recall, the Frenchman last game had an ability to outbid the captain. It's not unreasonable to imagine that there is a similar mechanic this game, though probably with a harder to achieve goal. He probably got the extra gold from his partners.
That, or he's King Orgnum.
are you voting to mutiny against yourself?
_______________
vote: Xiahou
I've been saying he was a suspect since before it was cool. This gold thing settles it
No, because he is going to have his first mate spite vig me. Or shoot me himself. :laugh4:
First mate can vig?
___________________________________
The C(s)argo also needs to be thrown overboard
Yes. Lynch Xiahou because there's a chance that the frenchman has more starting gold. Let's ignore anyone else that might have a highly suspicious role setup.
Why is the ghost of seireikhaan still posting? Should he not be in Davy Jones' Locker? Is the Flying Dutchman upon us?
Lying is such an ugly word. I'm saying he's wrong. I do not have 200 gold.
I really do appreciate the amount of attention that is being drawn to my finances though. It's really helpful. Suggesting that I'm fantastically wealthy will no doubt be oh so helpful for my future here. Thanks.
Right now you need to be giving us a compelling reason to spare your life, not panicking about you're gold
So Double A threw Visorslash in the brig N1, and came up with the right gold total. Then Visor did the same to Xiahou, and came up with a gold total that Xiahou denies. The only ways that I can see to interpret this is that either Xiahou started with or acquired extra gold by some means that he'd rather be lynched for than reveal, or that Visorslash is lying through his teeth. And as Double A pointed out, the latter would be a frankly suicidal move.
vote: Xiahou
What do you think we're playing here, Audit Mafia?
Come up with another line.
Throw him to.... the Loan Sharks.
*sigh* Look, night 1, Captain Kage suggested I steal from TFT because he was about to be killed (I was told). Stealing? On the captain's orders no less? Fantastic! Night 1, I stole. Day 2, I got gold as part of the mutiny dog-pile. Night 2, I didn't do anything, but I did get money from a will- I wasn't told who, but it doesn't seem hard to figure out.
And still, I don't have 200 gold. If he's claiming he got this information as part of his role powers, then the only conclusion I can reach is that he's french scum. First he said I started with 150, then later he said I had 200. Both are wrong. But how did he arrive at the 150 number? Is that how much a frenchie starts out with.... hmmm visor?
edit:
vote: Mutiny
Double A and Visor both seem pretty shady right now. I also wouldn't forget completely about landlubber either. He's been awfully quiet since he was the lynching runner-up last time.
I said you started with 150 because there was a gold difference when I did the math.
If you had gotten a will, you would've claimed it when I asked why you had so much gold. There was literally no reason to not claim it there.
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 07:20
Why would he lie about a power that is confirmed by Double A - unless they're both somehow scum?
Alternatively, why would he lie about your stash and drum up a lynch for you when there were multiple candidates for the lynch being mooted during the previous night?
Xiahou also recruited me, so he should have been given gold for that.
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2015, 07:21
In case this wasn't seen:
edit:
vote: Mutiny
Double A and Visor both seem pretty shady right now. I also wouldn't forget completely about landlubber either. He's been awfully quiet since he was the lynching runner-up last time.
If you're adding a vote, please do so in a new post. I'll allow it this time because I caught it, but for the future. :yes:
Xiahou also recruited me, so he should have been given gold for that.
Yes I took that into account.
I took into account him stealing first night as well, and I took into account sent actions.
See, the Kage mutiny had reasons. The Double A mutiny has none.
Can you point to a single scummy thing that AA has done?
Can you point to a single thing I've done that is scummy besides generic shady business behind closed doors which literally everyone in the game can attest to me not doing?
Yes I took that into account.
I took into account him stealing first night as well, and I took into account sent actions.
Okay, just making sure it was accounted for.
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 07:25
Can you point to a single scummy thing that AA has done?
No, I cannot.
See, the Kage mutiny had reasons. The Double A mutiny has none.
Can you point to a single scummy thing that AA has done?
Apparently, he's lying about the gold counting power of the quarter master. You're the only person who can corroborate it and you're claiming to have used it yourself- which I have on good authority, my own, that you don't have the right number.
Can you point to a single thing I've done that is scummy besides generic shady business behind closed doors which literally everyone in the game can attest to me not doing?
Your avatar has a goatee.
Apparently, he's lying about the gold counting power of the quarter master. You're the only person who can corroborate it and you're claiming to have used it yourself- which I have on good authority, my own, that you don't have the right number.
Let's assume for the moment that I'm wrong. How far am I off?
Your avatar has a goatee.
I plead insanity.
Gaius Scribonius Curio
10-02-2015, 07:35
Gaius, do you have anything to say about Csargo?
Only that I trust him (marginally) more than others in this game. I have no firm evidence as to his alignment, but we pulled a protection job together Night 1 (no attack came). He then told me unprompted that he had been asked by Kagemusha to protect Andres with Ituralde, did not, but received a PM from the latter saying that the protection was successful (no attack).
Since he did not know how this was possible (the rules state that simply the target surviving is enough for payment), such a revelation suggests to me that he, at least, actually protected our target.
Double A
10-02-2015, 07:37
When I blocked Visor, confirmed he had the amount GH reported to me.
Why would he lie about a power that is confirmed by Double A - unless they're both somehow scum?
why would a scum captain ever put one of his mooks in the limelight
Apparently, he's lying about the gold counting power of the quarter master. You're the only person who can corroborate it and you're claiming to have used it yourself- which I have on good authority, my own, that you don't have the right number.
Also, take a look (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/search.php?searchid=1342188) at the sum total of Double A's posts. It's the pirate ship equivalent of voting present. A few silly cracks and nothing but throwaway, unsubstantiated votes. I find it suspicious.
Double A
10-02-2015, 07:39
Only that I trust him (marginally) more than others in this game. I have no firm evidence as to his alignment, but we pulled a protection job together Night 1 (no attack came). He then told me unprompted that he had been asked by Kagemusha to protect Andres with Ituralde, did not, but received a PM from the latter saying that the protection was successful (no attack).
Since he did not know how this was possible (the rules state that simply the target surviving is enough for payment), such a revelation suggests to me that he, at least, actually protected our target.
Wait, he didn't protect someone but still got paid? Then his N1 action doesn't actually confirm his whereabouts even from your perspective.
Double A
10-02-2015, 07:40
Also, take a look (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/search.php?searchid=1342188) at the sum total of Double A's posts. It's the pirate ship equivalent of voting present. A few silly cracks and nothing but throwaway, unsubstantiated votes. I find it suspicious.
par for the course on D1 and 2 for me, honestly
D3 I actually start to try
Also, take a look (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/search.php?searchid=1342188) at the sum total of Double A's posts. It's the pirate ship equivalent of voting present. A few silly cracks and nothing but throwaway, unsubstantiated votes. I find it suspicious.
And visor is also suspicious for doing the opposite?
Gaius Scribonius Curio
10-02-2015, 07:46
Wait, he didn't protect someone but still got paid? Then his N1 action doesn't actually confirm his whereabouts even from your perspective.
No - Csargo protected someone with me (and got paid, we both did); Ituralde protected Andres with an insufficient group (not including Csargo) and got paid, PMing him to say 'thanks for helping, I got paid'. Csargo didn't know what to make of it, and asked me how it was possible. This leads me to believe that he actually protected the same person as I did.
It clears no-one, especially my other group member. It tells me that Csargo is unlikely to have done anything nefarious on Night 1.
And why would we vote different captains D1 when he could've swung it to NJ D1 and presumably gotten me a position?
AA has been fine in thread and in PMs.
And visor is also suspicious for doing the opposite?
Huh?
Visor came out early against Kage, who was most likely innocent. And he was one of the few who voted to lynch Ironside- who we can be pretty confident was innocent. Then there's the small matter of him wrongly claiming I have 200 gold, which also implicates Double A by extension.
And how exactly does this make me French? Explain my moves from a French perspective, because I still don't see it.
Xiahou, again, let's assume I am wrong. How far am I off?
Unvote:, Vote:Abstain
I blame unsolicited interventions into my affairs for this entire mess.
Xiahou, you can PM me if you want - but this is one question that needs answering.
And how exactly does this make me French? Explain my moves from a French perspective, because I still don't see it.
Xiahou, again, let's assume I am wrong. How far am I off?
Do you know how much gold someone you put in the brig has or not? It sounds like you're beginning to hedge on this now. If you know it, you wouldn't be off by any- why are you asking me?
Double A
10-02-2015, 07:56
No - Csargo protected someone with me (and got paid, we both did); Ituralde protected Andres with an insufficient group (not including Csargo) and got paid, PMing him to say 'thanks for helping, I got paid'. Csargo didn't know what to make of it, and asked me how it was possible. This leads me to believe that he actually protected the same person as I did.
It clears no-one, especially my other group member. It tells me that Csargo is unlikely to have done anything nefarious on Night 1.
GH pays out based on perception of night actions, though. If ten players said they'd kill one person, and six of them did something else, the four guys who sent in the kill order would still get paid a lower rate, even though they "should" be getting the 10 per vig rate.
Huh?
Visor came out early against Kage, who was most likely innocent. And he was one of the few who voted to lynch Ironside- who we can be pretty confident was innocent. Then there's the small matter of him wrongly claiming I have 200 gold, which also implicates Double A by extension.
please show me the part in the rules where I get to look at Visor's result PM direct from GH
Do you know how much gold someone you put in the brig has or not? It sounds like you're beginning to hedge on this now. If you know it, you wouldn't be off by any- why are you asking me?
I do. You are claiming I am wrong. I want to see what number of gold YOU CLAIM you have.
Hence why I said "assume".
please show me the part in the rules where I get to look at Visor's result PM direct from GHAre you claiming the QM has the ability to see exactly how much gold someone has when they put them in the brig? Visor claimed you got his number by locking him up and now he claims the same about me- he's wrong. So what do you say?
Are you claiming the QM has the ability to see exactly how much gold someone has when they put them in the brig? Visor claimed you got his number by locking him up and now he claims the same about me- he's wrong. So what do you say?
What?
The Quartermaster role gets the ability to see how much gold someone has when they are locked in the brig.
Double A got mine from locking me in.
I got yours from locking you in.
Xiahou, quit dodging my question.
Assuming I am wrong. How far am I off? How much gold do you have?
And visor is also suspicious for doing the opposite?
Deviations from the norm are suspicious. Over/under I'd say.
I dislike the dog pile here, but there's little I can do to change it. How much gold does Xiahou have? Was it 150 or 200?
Deviations from the norm are suspicious. Over/under I'd say.
I dislike the dog pile here, but there's little I can do to change it. How much gold does Xiahou have? Was it 150 or 200?
What norm?
No, he has 200. I suggested he started with 150 due to the gold discrepancy.
Ironside
10-02-2015, 08:05
And how exactly does this make me French? Explain my moves from a French perspective, because I still don't see it.
Xiahou, again, let's assume I am wrong. How far am I off?
You are controlling the narrative (often a power role tell) and are specifically targeting people that oppose you.
Had I been French, then of course the best course of action would be to oppose and annoy the most powerful man on the ship and who's fond of night killings. But opposing the dear leader makes you scum.
That said, I expect a three faction game, so I think you ravel in the opportunity to take out one from the rival faction.
Double A
10-02-2015, 08:07
Are you claiming the QM has the ability to see exactly how much gold someone has when they put them in the brig??
Yes.
Xiahou, quit dodging my question.
Assuming I am wrong. How far am I off? How much gold do you have?
What possible difference does it make? Either you know, or you do not. You do not. Why would it matter if I said I had 100 or 199? You're still wrong.
Yes.
Thusly, you are implicated by extension. Visor claims the same ability but he must not have it since he has the wrong number. Or is he being truthful about the ability and dishonest about the result to start a bandwagon?
You are controlling the narrative (often a power role tell) and are specifically targeting people that oppose you.
Had I been French, then of course the best course of action would be to oppose and annoy the most powerful man on the ship and who's fond of night killings. But opposing the dear leader makes you scum.
That said, I expect a three faction game, so I think you ravel in the opportunity to take out one from the rival faction.
I honestly don't recall you opposing or annoying me, I just thought you were scum.
What possible difference does it make? Either you know, or you do not. You do not. Why would it matter if I said I had 100 or 199? You're still wrong.
I want to see what you claim. Answer the question please.
Your continues insistence of dodging and not answering a simple question basically screams scum.
You claim I'm wrong but refuse to give a number to counter it.
Answer the question.
Double A
10-02-2015, 08:15
What possible difference does it make? Either you know, or you do not. You do not. Why would it matter if I said I had 100 or 199? You're still wrong.
Thusly, you are implicated by extension. Visor claims the same ability but he must not have it since he has the wrong number. Or is he being truthful about the ability and dishonest about the result to start a bandwagon?
Why would I make the inherently ridiculous coin counting part of throwing someone in the brig up?
What norm?
No, he has 200. I suggested he started with 150 due to the gold discrepancy.
The average amount.
Also, Unvote:, Vote: Ituralde
10: Amount awarded for successfully protecting an individual (even if he wasn't attacked) with the minimum group size of 3.
7: Amount awarded for successfully protecting an individual (even if he wasn't attacked) with anything larger than the minimum group size.
I looked over the rules for different actions. He lied.
Your continues insistence of dodging and not answering a simple question basically screams scum.
You claim I'm wrong but refuse to give a number to counter it.
Answer the question.
Right, because if I gave you the right answer, regardless of the fact you already "know" it's 200 I wouldn't be scummy. Yet by not telling you what you claim to already know, I'm scum. That makes sense. :dizzy2:
Your insistence that I tell you the correct number, while simultaneously insisting that you know it's 200 is quite bizarre. I don't know what your angle is, but I won't be telling you. Your unjustifiable insistence further confirms the rightness of my initial decision not to disclose the number.
I;m not insisting you tell me the correct number, I'm insisting you claim the number you have IF I'M WRONG.
We both know I'm not wrong, but you keep saying I am, so I want you to claim the number.
Double A
10-02-2015, 08:29
Is there a reason not to claim the exact number? Visor's just rounding. He told me and notjim the exact value in private.
The average amount.
Also, Unvote:, Vote: Ituralde
I looked over the rules for different actions. He lied.
yeah actually this seems like a solid lynch
Additionally, your initial claim for suspicion - too much gold, must be french - has been proven baseless. Others have confirmed that 200 gold (were that how much I actually had) could be entirely possible by this point in the game.
Your initial charges have been shown baseless, your "facts" are wrong and still you single-mindedly insist that I tell everyone how much gold I have, as though that would somehow clear my name. Why?
The average amount.
Also, Unvote:, Vote: Ituralde
I looked over the rules for different actions. He lied.
I'd love to see what possible explanation Ituralde could come up with to explain it away. :stare:
Is there a reason not to claim the exact number? Visor's just rounding. He told me and notjim the exact value in private.
Wait what? This is not what he's been claiming. You're saying that he's been lying to the ship this entire time?? Tell me the correct number. You've just further implicated yourself if you don't know the correct amount.
Wait what? This is not what he's been claiming. You're saying that he's been lying to the ship this entire time??
You have 199 gold. I claimed 200 because well why would I not round up to 200.
[Chill - GH]
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 08:37
I;m not insisting you tell me the correct number, I'm insisting you claim the number you have IF I'M WRONG.
We both know I'm not wrong, but you keep saying I am, so I want you to claim the number.
This is beyond pointless. Whatever number he claims is irrelevant. Why you're hung up on this is beyond me. You're supposedly the one person who can verify a gold total - he disputes this. Therefore he could claim fifty gold or ten thousand gold. There's nothing binding at this point to make him be truthful, therefore the claim is irrelevant because there's nothing to test it with. Either you(and by extension anyone else deemed not hazardous by the town echo chamber) believe your number is correct and he's lying, or they decide you're incorrect/lying.
A possible explanation for this whole situation that I can see is if Visorslash simply rounded off Xiahou's gold total initially, and is now requesting Xiahou reveal his exact gold count to see if it matches with the exact amount that he discovered. If this is the case Visorslash, it probably wouldn't undermine your purpose to say so.
Also, Unvote:, Vote: Ituralde
I looked over the rules for different actions. He lied.
I'm afraid I'm finding it hard to keep up with all the revelations going on - could you spell this out for me?
EDIT: Looks like I'm ten posts too late. Stop posting so fast, everyone!
Your decision to claim I was wrong, while technically correct was just dumb. You know you have 199 coins, you know well 200 is pretty close to 199, maybe he might be telling the truth about that one.
Perhaps I should have claimed 199 exactly - but I figured 200 was close enough. Apparently not.
100 + 10 + 3-6(captain + post) + 2 + 5-20 + 50-70(potential will/could be less) = 170-208
I'm going to sleep now.
A possible explanation for this whole situation that I can see is if Visorslash simply rounded off Xiahou's gold total initially, and is now requesting Xiahou reveal his exact gold count to see if it matches with the exact amount that he discovered. If this is the case Visorslash, it probably wouldn't undermine your purpose to say so.
I'm afraid I'm finding it hard to keep up with all the revelations going on - could you spell this out for me?
Yes, thank you,.
Is there a reason not to claim the exact number? Visor's just rounding. He told me and notjim the exact value in private.
yeah actually this seems like a solid lynch
I wasn't referring to gold, was talking about posts.
A possible explanation for this whole situation that I can see is if Visorslash simply rounded off Xiahou's gold total initially, and is now requesting Xiahou reveal his exact gold count to see if it matches with the exact amount that he discovered. If this is the case Visorslash, it probably wouldn't undermine your purpose to say so.
I'm afraid I'm finding it hard to keep up with all the revelations going on - could you spell this out for me?
EDIT: Looks like I'm ten posts too late. Stop posting so fast, everyone!
The protection Kage set up should have failed and he shouldn't have gotten any gold from it. He claimed he did, but I overlooked it because of what Gaius said early in the thread. I went and looked back at the rules for gold and he shouldn't have gotten anything for a failed protection. Unless GH messed up. So it seems he lied about that.
If you were claiming to know with certainty that it was a number that it's not, why would I accept that? You could have ended this pages ago by being truthful, yet you didn't. I'm baffled, frankly.
Yes, it is 199. And as I said at the time, I don't appreciate the bullseye that you disclosing that publicly puts on my back. :no:
You're still very suspicious imo. However, now that things add up, Double A's suspicion is lowered.
WRT to Ital - he claimed thanks for getting paid to Csargo, even though he technically did not get paid?
The protection Kage set up should have failed and he shouldn't have gotten any gold from it. He claimed he did, but I overlooked it because of what Gaius said early in the thread. I went and looked back at the rules for gold and he shouldn't have gotten anything for a failed protection. Unless GH messed up. So it seems he lied about that.
Let me check my PMs from Ital.
If you were claiming to know with certainty that it was a number that it's not, why would I accept that? You could have ended this pages ago by being truthful, yet you didn't. I'm baffled, frankly.
Yes, it is 199. And as I said at the time, I don't appreciate the bullseye that you disclosing that publicly puts on my back. :no:
You're still very suspicious imo. However, now that things add up, Double A's suspicion is lowered.
200-199 is nothing. For christs sake.
How am I suspicious? Please tell me what anything I've done works from a French perspective?
He shouldnt have gotten anything as far as the rules say or I understand them. Outside of the few gold for posting/voting? Am I wrong?
He gets two for a submitting IIRC.
He definitely claimed a successful protect to me in private. So yeah, lets string him up.
Vote: Ituralde
Ituralde
10-02-2015, 08:48
GH pays out based on perception of night actions, though. If ten players said they'd kill one person, and six of them did something else, the four guys who sent in the kill order would still get paid a lower rate, even though they "should" be getting the 10 per vig rate.
This confuses me, a lot!
Maybe someone who has played in the previous games can make more sense of it, but I cant make any sense of what happened.
Night One: Kagemusha asks me to protect Andres together with Ironside and Csargo. That's easy money I figure and send in the order that I will protect Andres together with Ironside and Csargo. I received a CC from Ironsides PM to GH. I didn't do this, as I didn't know this was a thing. I didn't heard from Csargo, but then I didn't confirm it to them either.
Night one is over and I get my feedback PM, it reads.
Andres is still alive.
Gold: 116
The first line doesn't tell anything. But my gold is up a full 16 from my starting 100.
Kagemusha sent a PM, where he gave out the one gold for electing him Captain. I confirmed receiving this in my order PM to GH.
Then I also get three gold for voting in the Captain's election and two gold for sending in night orders.
So 100 Starter + 1 from Kage + 3 for voting + 2 for night action = 106
Where do the other 10 gold come from then?
I assume it's from my successful protection of Andres with the minimum group size of three! Otherwise I would have received 7 gold.
I also base this assumption on the rules (bolded by me)
When actively performing at night, in your orders PM you must send me the exact specifics: What you are doing, the name of every person who is doing it with you, and who you are doing it to. If there is miscommunication and the orders do not match up, they will not be executed. Not only will this deprive you of treasure, but it may also put you at risk of public exposure or dying! Beware!
But now you Double A - and also Csargo in a PM - tell me that it doesn't matter who I mention in my order PM. As long as three people happen to send in the order: I protect Andres no matter who ther co-protectors are. All three people receive the 10 gold? This directly contradicts the bolded part above, where it says they will not be executed.
I only have two explanations for this:
1. Csargo did protect Andres together with Ironside and me, explaining the 10 gold.
2. Ironside had a special role, where there are only two people needed for a successful protection, when he is in the group.
Am I missing something? Where did I go wrong (Aside from being on a pirate ship).
He gets two for a submitting IIRC.
Still doesnt add up to 10. That's what he claimed. Something doesn't add up.
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 08:50
200-199 is nothing. For christs sake.
Simple. Don't round. Don't take short cuts.
How am I suspicious? Please tell me what anything I've done works from a French perspective?
You know, at this point, I'd prefer it if you and the rest of the echo chamber *were* French. Because the alternative is a town that thinks killing off anyone that isn't in the clique they weren't invited to is how you try to win a game.
Echo chamber? :laugh4:
Take a look in the mirror.
GeneralHankerchief could you clear this up? If possible. Potentially a slip-up. The gold thing.
Ituralde
10-02-2015, 08:55
This be the main reason why I be suspicious of Csargo by the way. I dont understand this at all.
Also since this will probably come up soon: Last night I tried to steal gold from Askthepizzaguy since all me other groups didn't work out. I was caught though, the feedback said that ATPG was ready for me.
Why you be guarding your gold you measly landlubber!
seireikhaan
10-02-2015, 08:55
He is el snooze, so *if* this is a slip up, it probably won't be resolved for a few hours.
ATPG did send me an angry PM saying he was going to be guarding his gold.
He seemed to be offended at me calling him scum.
ATPG did send me an angry PM saying he was going to be guarding his gold.
He seemed to be offended at me calling him scum.
I'm surprised you're still alive. :laugh4:
Kagemusha
10-02-2015, 08:59
Why is Ice still alive?
Ituralde
10-02-2015, 09:01
I also tried to clear the situation up with GH via PM, but apparently my rule question wasn't specific enough or I made too many assumptions while asking. Either way his response wasn't helping me understand it. Maybe I managed to word my problem a bit better this time.
johnhughthom
10-02-2015, 10:10
ref Csargo/Ituralde, I was in Csargo's group night one, and I don't think it's been mentioned that we got the lower 7 gold each for a larger than needed group. There were four of us in the group, so clearly everyone was on the protection.
This be the main reason why I be suspicious of Csargo by the way. I dont understand this at all.
Also since this will probably come up soon: Last night I tried to steal gold from Askthepizzaguy since all me other groups didn't work out. I was caught though, the feedback said that ATPG was ready for me.
Why you be guarding your gold you measly landlubber!
Can you give me back my gold before we string you up *Squawk*?
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 11:50
If you were claiming to know with certainty that it was a number that it's not, why would I accept that? You could have ended this pages ago by being truthful, yet you didn't. I'm baffled, frankly.
Yes, it is 199. And as I said at the time, I don't appreciate the bullseye that you disclosing that publicly puts on my back.
You're still very suspicious imo. However, now that things add up, Double A's suspicion is lowered.
Hot damn, he really is playing Audit Mafia. :laugh4:
Unvote
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2015, 12:07
This be the main reason why I be suspicious of Csargo by the way. I dont understand this at all.
Also since this will probably come up soon: Last night I tried to steal gold from Askthepizzaguy since all me other groups didn't work out. I was caught though, the feedback said that ATPG was ready for me.
Why you be guarding your gold you measly landlubber!
Because I spoke about stealing gold last night in my complaints with the administration and I've been around the harbor a few times. I KNEW someone would steal from me if I even mentioned the word steal in public. Why, because you can justify stealing from me if I have stolen from others. As Gaius and the Captain and even Visorslash were informed, I've stolen from nobody this game. But I said stealing gold publicly, so therefore, it took a real wild guess on my part to know I'd be stolen from. Ain't that somethin'? I must be a fortune teller.
I probably will at some point, but let's face facts, so will everyone.
I told Captain what I'd be doing and told him that if he wanted to check what I was doing he could have someone steal from me. Whether you did it independently of that or not, I don't know. But I do know directly who tried to steal from me, you're informed of who it was if it fails.
Now then, that would mean if I'm guilty which I am not, I'm either protecting my gold, which does me a fat lot of good, or I'm recruiting and having a teammate protect my gold. So it's not clearing. But it is binding my hands a bit, now isn't it.
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2015, 12:27
Here's where I'm at.
I like Double A, and I like having him as Captain. I don't mind the inquisition by his administration as they pretty much have to. I just mind the poor conclusions being drawn. Reading up, looks like it could be a bad idea to defend Xiahou, but I'll do it anyway. I think it's possible his gold adds up, and his responses under pressure look fine to me. If he turns out to be French, I'll leave the ship. I'm not voting for him today and I encourage others not to.
Here's my main complaint: The tension on the ship.
I don't want to be sailing on this vessel for a fortnight and only hear one thing: You're French, you're effing French!
I'd rather talk about something else! SOMETHING MUCH MORE PIRATE-Y!!! :pirate2:
I'll offer 10 gold to each and every single person who delivers me the head of our quartermaster, Visorslash. If ye be brave, and wanting of gold, and feel like you can face the mighty quartermaster with only your swords drawn, and the inherent semi protection he gets, then ye be the kind of pirate I want on board.
Visor tried to incite violence against me and FALSELY accused me of being French, and hates the fact that I'm a red blooded Pirate who wants gold more than I give two solid fecal segments about finding the French, and worst of all, he's got it in his head that he's some kind of hero.
UGH!
HOW REVOLTING!!!!
He's jailing people without reason, broadcasting their approximate gold totals, and inciting lynches on my dearest Xiahou, who I trust very much for no apparent reason not to be French.
It makes me stomach turn, it does.
I don't like anything he's doing, and I don't like his un-piratical attitude. He might not even be French, but he irritates me more than they do.
So, just to put the fear of God into 'im, I'm offering this bribe.
CONTACT ASKTHEPIRATEGUY IN PRIVATE TO IDENTIFY YOUR INTENTIONS SO YOU CAN BE JUSTLY PAID FOR THIS BRAVE DEED!!!
And should Visor wimp out and try to get me lynched as a consequence of this very Piratical deed, I have but one thing to say: I'm not French, never were, never will be, and furthermore, I'm not anything else either. When gone am I, and three days have past, you will see.
And then you can make amends to me in a very, very simple way.
Cannonball to his face, point blank range.
There be exactly one person who can convince me to withdraw this bounty. Captain Double A, come see me in private if you want to negotiate.
Otherwise, the bounty be on his head.
You have my word of honor as a Pirate that this be what lie in my cold, black heart. YARRR!!!
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 12:31
Visor tried to incite violence against me and FALSELY accused me of being French, and hates the fact that I'm a red blooded Pirate who wants gold more than I give two solid fecal segments about finding the French, and worst of all, he's got it in his head that he's some kind of hero.
If you love gold so much, then why are you willing to spend most of it to kill someone you think is probably town?
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2015, 12:32
To be clear, I don't even think he's French. I'm doing this purely to incite chaos and have fun. Ha!
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 12:39
But then wouldn't it be even more chaotic and fun to just give someone special all your gold for no discernible reason?
Hint hint
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2015, 12:39
If you love gold so much, then why are you willing to spend most of it to kill someone you think is probably town?
It's not most of it, it's barely a third. And if you want me to remain on board the ship, rather than hoard gold and then flee, this is my compromise:
I want to do a thing that's fun. That will also put me behind, gold-wise. I'll have to make it up somehow, and that means stealing gold.
Now, do you want a bit of sport? Because I'm a fortune teller, says I. I can tell when people are going to try to steal my gold. :pirate2: I'm just that damned good. Ain't that right, Ituralde? Heh heh heh.
I'd wager my gold stock that I can steal more gold from this crew than they can steal from me.
THAT would be a fun wager. And what sport, it would be as well. Maybe I'll end up penniless if I suck at it. Maybe I'll be filthy rich. But I could gain gold faster that way, and have a lot more fun and doubt about the outcome of the night than if I were lining up and being a murderer and collecting my murderer's salary.
And I'll even claim who I stole from if I was successful.
I will not steal from the same lad twice, provided folks do not successfully steal from me twice. Now, that's a fair bit o' sport, says I.
And of course, if none of ye be brave enough to accept this bounty, and the Captain doesn't talk me out of it, then this is also what I says, says I:
I'll leave.
Because none of ye know how to have any fun.
Those are my terms.
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2015, 12:42
But then wouldn't it be even more chaotic and fun to just give someone special all your gold for no discernible reason?
Hint hint
No, you have to earn it, you scurvy, wind-blasted sea dog! HARR HARR HARR!!!
*slaps Monty on the back*
If ye want to have fun, come be a Pirate with me!
If ye want to slavishly follow orders which will DEFINITELY result in your untimely death one night due to secretive vigilante groups dictated from on high, and be led like lambs to slaughter, follow your Quartermaster, for he be truly a man moulded in the image of authority, and duty, with an arse so tight it could break a cutlass in half.
:evil:
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 12:44
I suggest ye go deep into the northern deserts of the continent, beyond the borders of New Spain.
There you will found a city of gold - El Dorado - in which you can throw dice in the air as much as you like, and randomly generate positive or negative gold for yourself.
You'll have the time of your life, I swear.
Montmorency
10-02-2015, 12:45
follow your Quartermaster, for he be truly a man moulded in the image of authority, and duty, with an arse so tight it could break a cutlass in half.
And you expect people to beat him in a fight?
Ituralde
10-02-2015, 12:45
What's a lone pirate to do at night, when he has no buddies to play cards and drink rum with?
He does what he does best, he goes plunderin, suits a pirate right to loose his plunder, if he can't protect it!
Figured I'd either be a litlte richer or have a good story where the two of us has been last night. Who knows, maybe next night I'll even bring some rum and some cards, eh? :7pirate:
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2015, 12:48
Vote: Ituralde
And to be clear, Ituralde, I do this purely as a way of waggling my finger at you for tryin' to steal my gold.
And for the coin.
I'll even move my vote off of ye, for a paltry three coins, should ye be afraid of death. I'm not tryin' to kill you, just make up for lost time havin' to defend me gold.
Three gold, and I'll forget the matter entirely. Ye have my word.
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2015, 12:50
And you expect people to beat him in a fight?
If they be men of valor and bravery and skilled with a sword, if they be proper, manly pirates, then they should be able to take just one man in a straight fight.
Or do ye not like a challenge, says I?
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2015, 12:54
What's a lone pirate to do at night, when he has no buddies to play cards and drink rum with?
He does what he does best, he goes plunderin, suits a pirate right to loose his plunder, if he can't protect it!
Figured I'd either be a litlte richer or have a good story where the two of us has been last night. Who knows, maybe next night I'll even bring some rum and some cards, eh? :7pirate:
HAH!
Oh do pay me the gold I ask, because I'd hate to lose a pirate like you on this voyage.
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2015, 13:04
About the bit o' sport I talked about:
If ye be marchin' to the tune and the orders of the administration, ye be not defendin' yer gold and that increases my odds that I get rich and ye lose gold.
If ye be actin' more like pirates and doing what you want to do, and mindin' yer gold totals, stealin' or defendin' more often than not, then I shouldn't be able to end up with more gold than ye, now then, isn't that right? Especially if I start from behind?
So my wager serves more purpose than just my own fun. Ye can march to the orders o' the Captain and his direct subordinates all ye like during the day, but at night, it be time for pirates to act like the wild lawless dogs they be. And this be yer encouragement.
Unless you like doing what you're told and getting less gold than the captain, following his and his men's orders all game, and ending up with far less gold than he does, as was the case before.
That sounds like fun to ye all? That's the course they be settin' for us. I beg to differ, lads. I beg to differ.
And should I die, some other pirate should take up me mantle and offer the same deal. :wink:
Has anyone been roleblocked here besides myself and Xiahou at any stage?
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2015, 13:48
Definitely not last night, and our protection group on n1 appears to have worked out just fine. So, not me as far as I can tell.
So my wager serves more purpose than just my own fun. Ye can march to the orders o' the Captain and his direct subordinates all ye like during the day, but at night, it be time for pirates to act like the wild lawless dogs they be. And this be yer encouragement.
Unless you like doing what you're told and getting less gold than the captain, following his and his men's orders all game, and ending up with far less gold than he does, as was the case before.
At this point I'm assuming anyone who is parroting this idiotic line is just doing so out of ignorance.
Nobody received a PM or an order from myself, NJ or AA last night (well, 99% sure on NJ and AAs parts) or any night.
I did not say to anyone hey you need to target x with these players or anything. They only time I have come close to organising targets is the first night where I told everyone in no uncertain terms - I want to kill lurkers/people who don't post - I've already explained why we targeted ATPG over Ice and spaceman certainly fit the bill D1. I asked these people hey do you want to kill people, specifically lurkers. And they all said yes.
I did basically nothing last night in terms of organising except to organise one group of people who wanted to do a similar action. I didn't tell them you need to hit x target or whatever, I just said a,b,c,,d you guys all want to do something that I can see there is your group, as they were making seemingly no attempt to find a group.
There are no orders - we're not Kages captaincy, remember.
Definitely not last night, and our protection group on n1 appears to have worked out just fine. So, not me as far as I can tell.
Okay, good. Now to hear from everyone else. :laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2015, 13:55
There are no orders - we're not Kages captaincy, remember.
All right, I'll take you at your word. Assuming you can learn to do the same...
Two people who were trying to protect - I pointed them in the direction of someone who protected night 1.
I don't care what people do unless its important for working things out - people enjoy having sucessful actions completed and well people hate organising things. I just pointed people in the right direction and I'm not even doing that anymore because I have my own powers to use now.
All right, I'll take you at your word. Assuming you can learn to do the same...
Words are wind. release twow please
What's your word? I just saw a big lot of text saying lynch Visor and skipped over it. :laugh4:
I've probably inadvertently helped the French by organising some groups - though I have the potential to harm them if they agree I suppose by them not being able to do their own actions.
Just the way the cookie crumbles.
At this point I'm assuming anyone who is parroting this idiotic line is just doing so out of ignorance.
Nobody received a PM or an order from myself, NJ or AA last night (well, 99% sure on NJ and AAs parts) or any night.
I did not say to anyone hey you need to target x with these players or anything. They only time I have come close to organising targets is the first night where I told everyone in no uncertain terms - I want to kill lurkers/people who don't post - I've already explained why we targeted ATPG over Ice and spaceman certainly fit the bill D1. I asked these people hey do you want to kill people, specifically lurkers. And they all said yes.
I did basically nothing last night in terms of organising except to organise one group of people who wanted to do a similar action. I didn't tell them you need to hit x target or whatever, I just said a,b,c,,d you guys all want to do something that I can see there is your group, as they were making seemingly no attempt to find a group.
There are no orders - we're not Kages captaincy, remember.
To clarify this - I did PM people last night - Khaan, some others I don't recall - but not about night orders or whatever.
Kagemusha
10-02-2015, 14:06
There are no orders - we're not Kages captaincy, remember.
Just to make it clear. I asked people if they could do something, most of them did not.
Meanwhile i had in my hands a group who were going to mutiny no matter what i did. I should have just followed my initial instinct and take the leadership of that group out, but i guess i was too much of a softie to do that.
Since I'm tired and grumpy and don't give a damn abut peoples feelings at this point - its time we talked about the elephant in the room.
Ice. Nah I'm kidding. (How much does a vig group weigh? Enough to break the Ice. Hardeharhar)
Just to make it clear. I asked people if they could do something, most of them did not.
Meanwhile i had in my hands a group who were going to mutiny no matter what i did. I should have just followed my initial instinct and take the leadership of that group out, but i guess i was too much of a softie to do that.
You did ask a lot of people to steal from TFT or protect targets of your choosing.
If you don't roleblock me - I don't think we have a real case for mutiny to be honest.
Kagemusha
10-02-2015, 14:09
You did ask a lot of people to steal from TFT or protect targets of your choosing.
If you don't roleblock me - I don't think we have a real case for mutiny to be honest.
Yes ask, not order. I cant reveal my intentions now that im dead, but i can return to this once the game is over.
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2015, 14:13
What's your word? I just saw a big lot of text saying lynch Visor and skipped over it. :laugh4:
I don't want people to lynch you. That would be a waste of people's time. There are French people out there to find. You might be one of them but I'll trust the Captain's word on it.
I am offering a bounty for your head, if the action is successful only. 10 gold per man. A worthy reward for managing to strike you down even though you've got that 50% defense going for you.
I also told the captain I could be persuaded to drop the bounty for a small sum. You see, we're all reasonable men here. Well I am anyway. :grin:
Right.
I can almost see the members now.
Kagemusha
10-02-2015, 14:30
10 gold is a earnest prize for any pirate. Also a well paying job would become available, seems rather positive undertaking, or maybe you guys just have to pay off Pizza, but would that create a worrying precedent?
I fail to see the sense in trying to bribe people to kill someone who even the person organising the bribe thinks is likely town. Not sure you'd have to bribe some of the players in this game if I'm honest. Not exactly winning friends am I? :laugh4:
I could even do a rankings list of who is likely to join the hit outside those who are persuaded purely by the chance of money.
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