weight loss question

in the past two months ive been trying hard to lose the excess weight i have. ive been exercising at the very least a half hour every day, more when my schedule permits. i do a lot of cardio for my workouts, and some weightlifting when i have time. i have cut out all sweets and desserts, stick to one portion per meal, stock up on fruits and veggies, and have cut out sugary drinks from my diet.
but i dont seem to lose any of the weight. in fact, i gained a pound. i do feel stronger, and have definitely gained muscle, but i still look overweight.

what am i doing wrong?

Probably eat less or exercise harder...not very helpful advice I know.

Perhaps it's simply a matter of body type. That one pound is probably of muscle, you simply haven't lost any fat.

Could you give a bit more details on what the you eat and the quantity thereof. MAybe also your height and weight so we can give better advice.

Well exercise like weightlifting means more muscle, muscle is good, but if you specifcally just want to lose weight you probably won't doing that.

Not so much a matter of eating less, but the calories in the food you eat should be say a few hundred below the Daily recommended amount, also getting a balance of all nutrients and not an uneven distribution.

why would you want to lose weight i dont understand it. after a life of constantly gaining more weight i cant comprehend wishing to lose it. be patient and eventually you will replace youre dfat with muscle. i around 207 pounds but i look far less because it isnt fat but mostly muscle.

What are you eating in terms of meals?

It could be that you still have a high carbohydrate or fat intake.

Less Carbs (especially simple ones) = Weight Loss.

So when you have an intake of carbs, make sure it is the complex kind.

Also, increase your intake of fibre. Don't eat bread, as this is high in carbs, eat something like shredded wheat. This will get the food moving through you.

while i disapprove of anyone attempting to lose weight.......

dont just eat less that is poor advice. maintain a balanced diet and supplement it with high carb burning exercise. pm me if you want some good workouts.

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

while i disapprove of anyone attempting to lose weight.......

dont just eat less that is poor advice. maintain a balanced diet and supplement it with high carb burning exercise. pm me if you want some good workouts.

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It isn't poor advice. if you want to do a serious effort though, watch those "Biggest Loser" problems, hire a training instructor, and have 24/7 workout for 2-3 months, so you go from 400 pound to a muscular 200. Doing weights for example also does far more looks wise for the body then doing aerobatic exercises.

i am right now 190lbs, and im 5'11.

i dont really have normal meals cause im in high school. breakfast is a cup of that instant breakfast stuff. dont have time to eat a full meal. lunch is a PB&J sandwich on whole wheat bread, a fruit cup, a granola bar, and a bottle of water.
i know its not much but its all i have time to make.

dinner is whatever mom decides to make. but whatever it is i try to only have one serving of it.

You're around thirteen stone and 5ft11... that's not overweight as far as I am aware.

Breakfast is the most important meal of the day; if you don't have time, make time and get up half an hour earlier. I don't know what a cup of instant breakfast is, but it doesn't sound remotely healthy, so make sure you eat some bran or similar high-fibre breakfast cereals to help ease digestion for the remainder of the day.

For lunches... well peanut butter and jam aren't a healthy combination regardless of the bread you eat it on; potential filling replacements are dependent on what food you like and what you don't, really, but definitely stick with wholemeal bread. The fruit cup is fine, as I'm sure you know, as you really need to ensure you're hitting at least four of that five-a-day. Bottled water is excellent, I assume you refill that when the bottle is empty. The granola bar is a little iffy; some of those can contain large amounts of sugar (usually found in the syrups that hold the bar together), but there are some that are healthy.

For evening meals, perhaps arrange with your mother for there to be a night of the week where you eat a certain healthy option of your choice.

Losing weight doesn't mean you have to stop eating the food you like, you just have to learn to make sacrifices and eat healthily too.

As far as I know...muscle burns fat, lean protiens, drink lots of water, healthy carbs (anything brown) and burning too many calories (cardio) will burn muscle as well as fat. Muscle also weighs more than fat. That's about all I can relate.

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i am right now 190lbs, and im 5'11.

i dont really have normal meals cause im in high school. breakfast is a cup of that instant breakfast stuff. dont have time to eat a full meal. lunch is a PB&J sandwich on whole wheat bread, a fruit cup, a granola bar, and a bottle of water.
i know its not much but its all i have time to make.

dinner is whatever mom decides to make. but whatever it is i try to only have one serving of it.

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im in highschoo and i keep to a pretty regulated calorie plan.

make time in th emorning like secura said i eat at least three eggs ham, sausage or bacon (lol not for you) and toast. or i have protein shakes and some cheerios if im really really rushed. i wil go late to school before i mess up my feeding time.

and for lunch make healthy BIG sandwiches, pasta, etc.

eat what your parents give you for dinner

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Muscle also weighs more than fat.

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please dont say anything like that :tongue: . its a common thing to say but think about it. 1pound of muscle CANNOT weigh more than 1pound of fat. you mean muscle is more dense than fat.

better you hear it now instead of you being at a gym or something and say that. or god forbid you say it to strike lol. :wink:

Basically, if your a certain size, sizes being equal when your fat or muscular, the muscular frame will weigh more. I guess I didn't phrase myself well or came to believe to vehemently an old cliche...

What exercise are you doing?

Sprints + weights = 24 hour increase in metabolism = burning calories well after the exercise ends = weight loss.

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Originally Posted by Hooahguy

i am right now 190lbs, and im 5'11.

i dont really have normal meals cause im in high school. breakfast is a cup of that instant breakfast stuff. dont have time to eat a full meal. lunch is a PB&J sandwich on whole wheat bread, a fruit cup, a granola bar, and a bottle of water.
i know its not much but its all i have time to make.

dinner is whatever mom decides to make. but whatever it is i try to only have one serving of it.

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-Processed, probably filled with Sodium and simple carbs

-Get rid of the jam add a bannana

-Probably processed and packed in a sugary syurp.

What does your mom usually cook?

Also if your diet was high in Carbs before (like most Americans) then you'll be pretty insulin resistant.

I also need to see your work out

Chances are you are not doing what you think you are. Write down everything you put in your mouth and every excersise you do. If nothing happens cut cals

my work outs includes a half hour of running, another half hour of weights/pushups/situps.
thats pretty much all i can spare in my schedule.

i heard that bannanas are the worst fruits you can have, is that true?

i started taking tuna w/ salad sandwhiches instead of PB&J.

is the fruit cup really so bad? what do you recommend instead?

my mom usually makes random things, no real pattern, but wednesday is pizza, which i avoid completely, and thursday is noodles, which i have one serving of with marinara sauce, no cheese.

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Originally Posted by Hooahguy

i heard that bannanas are the worst fruits you can have, is that true?

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When unripened (the skin is a vivid green), they contain high amounts of starch sure, but who eats 'em like that anyway? When ripe (yellow skin), the banana has converted the starch into sugar and it's as healthy as most fruit, really.

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i started taking tuna w/ salad sandwhiches instead of PB&J.

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Tuna is an excellent source of protein, omega-3 and vitamin D, so good choice!

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is the fruit cup really so bad? what do you recommend instead?

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When I searched for this on Google, it just looked like chopped fruit, but often there's a juice in there that's laden with sugar as previously stated; simply eating an apple instead would be fine, I should think.

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Originally Posted by Secura

When unripened (the skin is a vivid green), they contain high amounts of starch sure, but who eats 'em like that anyway? When ripe (yellow skin), the banana has converted the starch into sugar and it's as healthy as most fruit, really.

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Hey, I like my Banana's fresh (yellow, with a tint of green at the edges). I really dislike brown bananas or what some people call "ripe".

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Originally Posted by Beskar

Hey, I like my Banana's fresh (yellow, with a tint of green at the edges). I really dislike brown bananas or what some people call "ripe".

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When the skin goes that blackened bruise-looking colour and the banana's flesh is brown and somewhat mushy, that usually means the fruit has overripened; at that stage, the banana has turned largely into a sugar-laden mass and should be thrown away or at the very least the brown parts cut off.

Bananas are great as Beskar stated, largely yellow with just a slight amount of green in there; that's pretty much when the fruit's at it's best.

When I buy bananas, they seem to be green for a week, yellow for a day, then they turn brown. I don't eat much fruit anyway, it just makes me more hungry.

hooah if your serious you need to alter your diet and do more thna an hour of exercise. i run in the morning (i wake up very early) for like an hour and after school i lift weights.

noodles are good by the way. i eat alot of noodles but then agian im not trying to lose weight :tongue:

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Basically, if your a certain size, sizes being equal when your fat or muscular, the muscular frame will weigh more. I guess I didn't phrase myself well or came to believe to vehemently an old cliche...

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meaning muscle is more dense. its just a thing that bothers me. i believed it and said it for a long time as well most people do.

theres a reason most nfl runningbacks sink to the bottom of the pool when they try to swim and its not because black people can't swim (another annoying stereotype)

It's cool...I understand, you just caught me off guard (I don't like to be wrong), no offense...

lol im fine. i tohught you took it the wrong way wasnt supposed to be condescending.

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Originally Posted by A Nerd

When I buy bananas, they seem to be green for a week, yellow for a day, then they turn brown.

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You want to eat them at the end of that week, while there's still a little green in the skin. The banana's flesh should be fine by that point; not too soft and not too much of a bite to it.

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I don't eat much fruit anyway, it just makes me more hungry.

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You need to ensure you're eating five portions of fruit or vegetables a day; if you can't reach that five, which is harder than it sounds, then getting to four is fine.

I usually have one or two pieces of fruit per day (mostly bananas, pears, apples and oranges) and then make up the rest of the five-a-day by utilising vegetables in my evening cooking; anything from aubergines and courgettes to leeks and sweet potatoes... it all adds up. You can make some fantastic meals just using some basic ingredients (milk, eggs, herbs etc.) and some vegetables, the imagination and your taste are the only limits.

Coupled with two litres of water a day and some exercise each day and it fights off the pounds for those moments where I go nuts and eat Ben & Jerry's Phish Food or a pizza. xD

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Coupled with two litres of water a day and some exercise each day and it fights off the pounds for those moments where I go nuts and eat Ben & Jerry's Phish Food or a pizza. xD

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Phish Food is bad. I love Bohemian Raspberry, now that was an ice cream, but now they discontinued it, even though it was their number one flavour. :cry:

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Phish Food is bad. I love Bohemian Raspberry, now that was an ice cream, but now they discontinued it, even though it was their number one flavour. :cry:

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Chocolate Fudge Brownie's the best one. <3

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Originally Posted by Beskar

Phish Food is bad.

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:shocked2: Blashpemer!! Phish Food is awesome!

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Originally Posted by Hooahguy

my work outs includes a half hour of running, another half hour of weights/pushups/situps.
thats pretty much all i can spare in my schedule.

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What does this entail exactly? How much do you run? How do you split it up? What kind of movements do you do?

I'll tell you right now if all you are doing is running 30 mins on a treadmill and then doing some BW you aint gonna get no where fast.

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i heard that bannanas are the worst fruits you can have, is that true?

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Eat the bannana.

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i started taking tuna w/ salad sandwhiches instead of PB&J.

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Thats great, awesome. However I would reccomend getting most of your carbs in around breakfast time.

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is the fruit cup really so bad? what do you recommend instead?

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A peice of actual fruit. The fruit cup has been porcessed and the fruit has been sitting in that syurp, there are much better alternitives.

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my mom usually makes random things, no real pattern, but wednesday is pizza, which i avoid completely, and thursday is noodles, which i have one serving of with marinara sauce, no cheese.

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Is there a specific reason why you're avoiding the cheese? Your biggest enemy there is going to be all those carbs, which wouldnt be a problem if you were following a training regimine.



5'11 190 is not that heavy, so you're going to have to work at cutting the weight. I would get how you train in order and then I would get how you eat in order, Also remember these things dont happen overnight. 2 months really isnt that long.

I do eat alot of vegetables, just not much fruit. Chocolate chip cookie dough is my fave!

I always found weight lifting and cardio combination a good way to improve physique. Protien powder doesn't hurt either.

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Originally Posted by A Nerd

I do eat alot of vegetables, just not much fruit. Chocolate chip cookie dough is my fave!

I always found weight lifting and cardio combination a good way to improve physique. Protien powder doesn't hurt either.

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I do eat alot of vegetables, just not much fruit. Chocolate chip cookie dough is my fave!

I always found weight lifting and cardio combination a good way to improve physique. Protien powder doesn't hurt either.

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And my love for you is infinate! ;)

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

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The tears are of an awkward consistancy.

Probably not tears. Likely brain matter.

Or jello.


Mmmmm

well, since i started this thread i have lost two pounds, per your suggestions.
thank you all so much, im making progress now.

Weightlifting, sit- or push-ups is a waste of time if you want to lose weight, just go jogging, outside not in the gym, bad for your knees. A swim is best, 10 minutes a day should do but the more the better.

Don't use weight as a metric. Find a way to get a reliable body fat measurement and think percentages. I'm probably back up to 15% body fat but the goal is less than 10; no less than 5. Either way it's an improvement from my all time high of over 33%.

Body fat on women is good as long as it's in the right places.

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Originally Posted by Fragony

Weightlifting, sit- or push-ups is a waste of time if you want to lose weight, just go jogging, outside not in the gym, bad for your knees. A swim is best, 10 minutes a day should do but the more the better.

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Drag everything you said is complete bull ten minutes of jogging is completely worthless I'm not going to further elaborate but lifting burns slot of calories :thumbsdown:

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

Drag everything you said is complete bull ten minutes of jogging is completely worthless I'm not going to further elaborate but lifting burns slot of calories :thumbsdown:

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I think hes refering to weights = more muscle = fat turning to muscle = less weight loss

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Originally Posted by Hooahguy

my work outs includes a half hour of running, another half hour of weights/pushups/situps.
thats pretty much all i can spare in my schedule.

i heard that bannanas are the worst fruits you can have, is that true?

i started taking tuna w/ salad sandwhiches instead of PB&J.

is the fruit cup really so bad? what do you recommend instead?

my mom usually makes random things, no real pattern, but wednesday is pizza, which i avoid completely, and thursday is noodles, which i have one serving of with marinara sauce, no cheese.

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That s a daily routine?

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

I think hes refering to weights = more muscle = fat turning to muscle = less weight loss

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Lifting makes you stronger, but will hardly burn fat.

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Originally Posted by Fragony

Lifting makes you stronger, but will hardly burn fat.

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That's a lie, stop spreading false information

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I think hes refering to weights = more muscle = fat turning to muscle = less weight loss

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Please explain to me how human fat cells turn into human muscle cells....I'll wait

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Please explain to me how human fat cells turn into human muscle cells....I'll wait

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Good fats can be transformed, bad ones cannot.

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Good fats can be transformed, bad ones cannot.

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O rly? That's not what you said in the begining and still isnt entirely true. There is a difference between fats but that is only when you are about to consume food, the fat cells in your body are fat cells and can not turn into muscle

I would assume that weight training increases heart-rate and blood-flow that would contribute to fat loss. Not to mention the tearing of muscles that will increase their size. It would seem that weight-lifting alone would burn fat and improve overall appearance, ie. making one more lean.

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I would assume that weight training increases heart-rate and blood-flow that would contribute to fat loss. Not to mention the tearing of muscles that will increase their size. It would seem that weight-lifting alone would burn fat and improve overall appearance, ie. making one more lean.

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<3.

You and I think alike! I've been weight-lifting since I was 14! I've always had a decent physique and managable weight! It's when I ran 6-10 miles a day and stopped weight-lifting that I got very thin. Almost emaciated!

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You and I think alike! I've been weight-lifting since I was 14! I've always had a decent physique and managable weight! It's when I ran 6-10 miles a day and stopped weight-lifting that I got very thin. Almost emaciated!

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Thank you! I love this board! My compliments in return!

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Good fats can be transformed, bad ones cannot.

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no you are actually damaging muscle tissue when lifting, body fixes it and muscle grow the more you hurt them. Ask these big guys to do 50 push-ups, they can't.

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Good fats can be transformed, bad ones cannot.

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no you are actually damaging muscle tissue when lifting, body fixes it and muscle grow the more you hurt them. Ask these big guys to do 50 push-ups, they can't.

if he lifts hes going to gain muscle and hes going to trim down. im 207 pounds and 6'1 but my 6'0 185 friend who doesn't work out like i do looks like a pig.

your just wrong.

It's not homie love, it's mutual consideration.

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

O rly? That's not what you said in the begining and still isnt entirely true. There is a difference between fats but that is only when you are about to consume food, the fat cells in your body are fat cells and can not turn into muscle

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At the start of the thread I didn't actually hyrocrite myself, only mentioned weightlifting probably won't help you lose weight. Muscle is denser than fat so it can carry more weight in the same area of space.

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

if he lifts hes going to gain muscle and hes going to trim down. im 207 pounds and 6'1 but my 6'0 185 friend who doesn't work out like i do looks like a pig.

your just wrong.

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There is a difference between doing it right and doing nothing at all. Swimming is best you use your whole body, and 10 minutes a day will do, 30 if you want to look like me and you want to look like me.

i run for like an hour a day and i dont look anorexic. because i have a huge intake of calories and i lift weights as well.

and key word he doesnt work out like I do. Hes a lacrosse player and while they run quite a bit and lift a little he doesn't do much else.

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Originally Posted by Fragony

There is a difference between doing it right and doing nothing at all. Swimming is best you use your whole body, and 10 minutes a day will do, 30 if you want to look like me and you want to look like me.

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You should see Fragony while he at Pool, he breaks out in song and dance.

"Fragony, is too sexy for his shirt, too sexy for his shirt, oh yeah..."


Edit: The link might be too racey for puritans.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

You should see Fragony while he at Pool, he breaks out in song and dance.

"Fragony, is too sexy for his shirt, too sexy for his shirt, oh yeah..."

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You'd think that if his exercise regime hurt him so much, he'd simply stop. Sometimes the pain isn't worth the gain.

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Originally Posted by Fragony

no you are actually damaging muscle tissue when lifting, body fixes it and muscle grow the more you hurt them. Ask these big guys to do 50 push-ups, they can't.

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lol, Don't buy into the "BIG MUSCLES MAKE YOU UNFUNCTIONAL" narritive, please.

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

At the start of the thread I didn't actually hyrocrite myself, only mentioned weightlifting probably won't help you lose weight. Muscle is denser than fat so it can carry more weight in the same area of space.

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Calories in-Calories out=weight loss.

I heard that eating smaller meals every 4 hours or so is better that 3 large meals a day. I haven't been able to mainten the routine though. When I ran 6-10 miles a day, I didn't eat as much as I should have. I think that's why I got so thin. I plan to trail-run soon in a state park, will definately eat more then! (While maintaining suitable time with the weights)

ive heard the opposite actually....... but dont trust me.

No problem. I'm glad I haven't been able to do it then! :)

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I heard that eating smaller meals every 4 hours or so is better that 3 large meals a day. I haven't been able to mainten the routine though. When I ran 6-10 miles a day, I didn't eat as much as I should have. I think that's why I got so thin. I plan to trail-run soon in a state park, will definately eat more then! (While maintaining suitable time with the weights)

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I believe it is Paul Mc Kenna who came up with that.

He also recommends eating slowly, which gives your body time to tell you "you are full", also recommends drinking lots of water, because some people confuse the feeling of thirst for hunger. By eating little and often, it trains the body that there always will be food, so it stops trying to store fats, compared to hardly eating, thus the body storing fats when it can.

This is obviously for weight loss, not for those who intentionally work-out. For people like Centurion1 who actively work-out, they eat hyper-calorie protein chocolate bars, etc. For someone losing weight, it is probably equivant of stuffing your face with 10 normal chocoate bars with a large steak ontop, in otherwords, a very bad idea.

I understand, nice observation. I was enlightened to that 'eating guide' if you will in an article on a bodybuilding webpage. It also went into such convolutions of anabolicnesses, blood sugar levels and other such things I didn't understand. I'm not saying what I read was worthless, just perhaps geared toward those who can benefit from eating that way. By the way those protien 'candy bars' are great if you have a sweets craving and don't want to eat a hershy bar!

i like food. i just turn it into muscle instead of fat.

win win

Food fuels an active lifestyle. Yeilding both improved appearance and mental state.

question: is it better to bike intensely for a half hour or to jog for a half hour?

I'd say bike, but I'm adding a disclaimer here so one of our many nutriution gurus won't rip me a new one ;).

High intensity is what you want to be looking for.

I used to bike extensively, one time this guy at the gym said biking didn't work the hamstrings well, though I disagreed at the time. It's good exercise, your stamina will allow for further distances to be travelled and it's easeir to take in the scenery. Jogging is more exertive and I think will burn calories faster, but, I also think there are more gains to be made in burning calories more slowly. The only problem being is that I used to jog year round, I was only able to bike during the warmer months.

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question: is it better to bike intensely for a half hour or to jog for a half hour?

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Overall biking is better

What does your diet look like?

Are you counting calories? Carbs? Protiens?

is it really intensive bike work or are you like gliding for half of it.

We get around on them https://www.youtube.com/xl

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question: is it better to bike intensely for a half hour or to jog for a half hour?

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Jogging can be bad for your spine, funnily enough. Same as treadmills, especially as you don't do it properly. (Yes, there are actual ways you are meant to walk, run, job, sit in a chair, etc)

I use a bike myself, as you are exercising the same muscles, and arguably even more.

The intoxicating degree of exertion and the eventual runners high, not to mention the euphoric feeling one receives when finished (jogging), I feel, far outweighs any physical pleasures of bicycling. Though bicycling has its charm. I'll worry about physcial ills when I'm old and crotchety.

Biking is better for your knees, but worse for your testicles. :sweatdrop: