Last edited by Beskar; 05-06-2011 at 12:31.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
How about no, scummy?
Since it seems none of my plans for last night worked,
bet 5: visorslash
Cases against you and mythmonster incoming as time permits.
And I still deserve that gag.
Gag to Renata
Shlin should get his tanooki suit back.
Tanooki suit to Shlin
Otherwise I believe Backwards Logic should in fact get some of the items; I'll start with
Santa's Vodka and the Omega virus sample to Backwards Logic (glad you're back, buddy; hope you have fun)
There's also a player I think is very likely innocent whose name hasn't really come up as such in public yet (and I'd like to keep it that way). Shlin knows who it is. I'd like to get a bulletproof item and transfer it to him.
Lucky Badge
Security Forcefield to Believer since he's been so sweet.
And Jedi Holocron to Diamondeye.
I think that's everything but the vig items.
Whoops,
Lucky Badge to Renata
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Vote: Jedi Holocron to Diamondeye
#Hillary4prism
BD:TW
Some piously affirm: "The truth is such and such. I know! I see!"
And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra
Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts
Lynch Renata already will you.
Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.
Believer says (11:06):
Can I have the 3 last replies as a signature?
ATPG says (11:06):
No.
Believer says (11:06):
Why?
ATPG says (11:06):
not org-appropriate
Believer says (11:07):
Nothing we say is org-appropriate
And you'll be down another if you lynch me.
What's your case Renata, if this is anything like the Chamber, I'll be lynched anyway.
i'M b@Ck!
...
Seriously though, awesome. It's good to be alive again.
Since I have no time right now (work and all...), I'll do a quick post now where I vote a bunch of things to myself, namely all of the bulletproof items (Santa's Vodka, Tanooki Suit, Lucky Badge, and Security Forcefield all to me (Backwards Logic)). It'd be silly to spend a ton of credits on reviving me, then leaving me utterly defenseless for the following night. I'm flexible on the other items, so if someone can convince me they'd be a good choice for the retaliatory items and/or vig items I'll send my votes that way. I'll be back on later, probably 13-14 hours from now.
Here are all of Visorslash’s posts of substance, minus a couple of jokes and stuff. Note he missed the first couple of days of the game.
Why the need to reassure people that you will be around to do the other votes later? The first post is excusable under the circumstances, the second looks, as God Emperor noted, like you’re just trying to show you’re acting like a proper townie.
Posting from phone = scum.
More seriously, this comes right after Romanic’s long accusation post (like five posts later). You can’t find a single word to say about that, but you *can* spend time to explain why you’re not making any other item votes?
The promised response to God Emperor.
Response to my suggestion that people try finding out if resurrection is their hidden power. My don’t you sound enthusiastic. And what’s to organize?
Well that’s a bit of an abrupt switch, but OK.
What the heck was the point of all this? Chaotics have cover roles. His claiming his role would prove nothing one way or another. (Claiming his *actions* might be useful, but that’s not what you’re asking.) You’re just flogging something that doesn’t matter, over and over. Why? Just to make Earthling look bad if he doesn’t answer fast enough?
This is the post that elevated Visorslash from person of interest to major suspect to me. It’s the last sentence, which seems to have been added in an edit. With that sentence, Visor seems to be trying to deflect any idea that he might already KNOW that Earthling is telling the truth with his role claim, which would be the case for chaotics (more or less, barring any further serial killers or whatever) but not for regular evils.
Thing is – why should it even occur to you that you would need to make such a disclaimer? Clearly you wrote that first part, then had a moment of “ohI just said something I shouldn’t have”, but how many townies would it even occur to that they’d said something suspicious? My guess is not a whole heck of a lot.
And then this, 15 minutes later, a further disclaimer that oh no you didn’t mean you would *kill* Earthling, of course you’re just talking about the lynch, haha.
And I’ll stop here. Any particular reason you’re so interested in bulletproof items, Visor? More to the point, any reason you didn’t *say* why you’re so interested in bulletproof items? You’d think someone who’d been attacked would be trumpeting it from the heavens. I assume the vig(s) did follow through, but failed.
Save Logic!
We need it to make right decisions!
......................
Oh.....its Backwards Logic?
Why we need that?
......................
He's evil?
Good enough.
Vote: Santa's Vodka, Tannooki Suit, Lucky Badge to Backward logic
"They're just overloaded from the spamgasm."-Askthepizzaguy
"... Either your as destructive as the most depraved 4 channer or so devious that you can cause the most trouble while acting utterly oblivious as to make us think your too dumb to be doing this intentionally... and the scary thing is I cant help but think the latter."-Greyblades
"Thefluffyone is the greatest thing to happen to the .org since Beefy187."-Askthepizzaguy
"TheFluffyOne makes me feel moist."-Askthepizzaguy
If it turns out that fluffy and backwards logic are scumbuddies or at least on the same team, I'd like to say I called it.
"They're just overloaded from the spamgasm."-Askthepizzaguy
"... Either your as destructive as the most depraved 4 channer or so devious that you can cause the most trouble while acting utterly oblivious as to make us think your too dumb to be doing this intentionally... and the scary thing is I cant help but think the latter."-Greyblades
"Thefluffyone is the greatest thing to happen to the .org since Beefy187."-Askthepizzaguy
"TheFluffyOne makes me feel moist."-Askthepizzaguy
Mythmonster2, minus fluff:
So mythmonster is one of the people who contributed to the lynch-Earthling fund on day one, when Seon was in trouble. What I find interesting about him in particular is that
1. He changed his vote to do so; and
2. He disclaimed confidence in his new vote.
Both of these are what you might expect from a Mafioso trying to sneak in a teammate-helping vote without drawing too much notice. “It’s as good a reason as any!” = FAKE.
(Note also that I don’t think mythmonster has said boo in this thread since I first pointed out the possible Seon connections of him and a few other people, which reminds me of Husar in VotA.)
Byzantine had had a bet of a couple of credits or so on mythmonster at some point day one, before moving it. And mythmonster needs to reassure Byzantine that *he* doesn’t have any hard feelings from it? That’s what you call snuggling in the mafia trade, and it is extremely scummy.
The last bit just looks self-conscious.
Being helpful to a bow-wow-wow question about why ever bet more than 1 credit. The first part is wrong, but half the game seemed to have that impression for a while there. “If I have this down correctly”? Of course you do have it down correctly, MM, you just made a comment about Captain Blackadder’s lynch that presupposes that being the case. FAKE.
Oh, you’re confused.
This is the day before the big bandwagon on ACIN; it’s only day two.
Fluffy gives him a “ur doin it wrong” macro for the content-free vote and in return we get mega-flinch:
“I knew I was going to be in trouble” (really? People make content-free votes all the time and never get called on it, why so self-conscious?)
apology when it’s not needed
excuses when they are not needed
vote change when *it* is not needed
Stirring the pot against B-ray once YLC turns up evil, but never follows up.
Oh, he’s confused again. More to the point, it’s awfully easy for a mafioso to call innocents innocent, isn’t it? Just to keep his own hands conspicuously squeaky clean while the town destroys itself?
(I do think Earthling is innocent.)
As I complained at the time, this is a horrible vote – nobody should look at Romanic’s vote there and think there’s any way it could have been intended to save *Subotan*. ACIN, maybe, but not Subotan. (Jolt, wasn’t it you who did this too? Neutral Jolt? LOL) I think mythmonster just seized on this as a reason to add some credits to what was otherwise a rather cruddy bandwagon.
As an aside, it’s interesting this is in fact his very first item vote all game long. It’s hardly a strong scum tell in itself, but I *have* noticed that sort of behavior before in scum in the item-heavy NOTW games. Item votes are difficult for scummers. You have no interest in giving stuff to townies, and your instincts are going to be backwards even if you try (you’ll be wanting to give them to the worst possible recipients, not the best). You don’t want to vote stuff to your teammates, because you don’t want to draw more connections between you. So you just don’t vote for items at all; you rely on the regular lynch votes as an indicator of your participation.
Last comment: “you townies sure suck” (for the civplayah lynch). Hell of a comment form someone who hadn’t even had a stake in what was happening all day.
Vote: Santa's Vodka, Tannooki Suit, Lucky Badge to Backward logic
Not sure yet who to bet on, will do that later.
My game on Civfanatics could use a few more!: MNOTW XVII: The Cursed Blade!
fold, bet 40: mythmonster
Writing it all out like this I'm significantly more suspicious of mythmonster than of visorslash. Visor has a general suspicious look due to self-consciousness and one OMG did you just say that post; almost every single one of mythmonster's posts is scummy in one way or another, plus there's a potential link to Seon.
I'm also curious if his butt got singed last night, metaphorically speaking.
I'd like some bets on him.
Eh it was more a jab at how he was giving him items I myself wanted than actual suspicion. Anyway he might not be a townie, remember the town is evil; glorious light doesnt sound very evil, he could have been revived and recruited from a good aligned faction.
Vote:
30% bulletproof chance. Rudolph's (TANOOKI SUIT)
10% bulletproof chance. Psycho Andy's (LUCKY BADGE)
10% retaliatory kill chance. Psycho Andy's (OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE)
10% bulletproof chance. Rudolph's (SANTA'S VODKA)
10% bulletproof chance. Bane Anded's (SECURITY FORCEFIELD)
To backwardlogic
10% vigilante kill chance. Claire Raval's (CUSTOM BERETTA)
To DiY
Custom Beretta would be nice
Giving him the passive item stuff seems to be the best, because ultimately he has a maximum action number per night, so for example giving to him a bus driver item, role block item, vig item all in one go wouldn't work out. At the same time however, stocking him up with so many items will likely just end up with him being a prime steal target, but anyway, a 60% bulletproof chance with a 10% retaliatory should be enough discouragement for murder.Speaking of which, why isn't he getting all or near all item votes???
Bet 3 Credits: Mythmonster
Interesting case laid out, worth pursuing.
You cannot add days to life but you can add life to days.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Vote:
10% bulletproof chance. Rudolph's (SANTA'S VODKA)
30% bulletproof chance. Rudolph's (TANOOKI SUIT)
10% bulletproof chance. Psycho Andy's (LUCKY BADGE)
10% bulletproof chance. Bane Anded's (SECURITY FORCEFIELD)
10% retaliatory kill chance. Psycho Andy's (OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE)
10% investigatory chance + FACTION SCANNING ITEM. Bane Anded's (JEDI HOLOCRON)
To Backwards Logic
I think an investigation item would be much more useful for him than vig items, since we got plenty of people with vig items already. I am not sure about the evidence on Mythmonster, will have to read more it and vote later as always
Bet: 10 credits on Mythmonster
Believer says (11:06):
Can I have the 3 last replies as a signature?
ATPG says (11:06):
No.
Believer says (11:06):
Why?
ATPG says (11:06):
not org-appropriate
Believer says (11:07):
Nothing we say is org-appropriate
Oh, I have a surprise for town that I found:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/wir45gHgQPKk9
Should be pretty easy to win from this point on.
BLARGH!
Hover over link, and what do we find. You can't catch me, I'm the pizzaguy man.
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
After speaking a bit with Renata, I will cast another 10 in the mythmonster, pool.
Bet: 10 on Mythmonster
In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces.
I have got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel
INTP
Town deserves to lose, not going to bother anymore.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
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