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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    Ugh, I don't like this but I laughed. Most Pakistani's I've met are great people, maybe the quality increases with distance from Pakistan, what do I know? Corruption when left unchecked and treated with impunity will metastasize; irrespective of the ethnic background of the "corruptees". It's my new word for the day, which I've invented.
    Very nice indeed

    Only nineteen percent of Pakistanis have a negative view of Al Qaeda and by default the Taliban, whilst seventy-five percent wish to see Sharia law implemented. British-born Muslims make an estimated four hundred thousand trips a year to Pakistan, where as many as thirty threats against Britain are being monitored at any given time.
    Thirty-three percent of Muslim students in Britain think killing in the name of Islam is permissible. Only thirty-seven percent oppose the introduction of Sharia law and only twenty-five percent oppose the creation of a worldwide Muslim caliphate.
    MI5 believe there are up to four thousand potential terrorists and thirteen thousand Al Qaeda sympathisers living in Britain. The CIA devotes an astonishing forty percent of their anti-terrorist homeland security operations against suspects not in Afghanistan or Waziristan, but in Britain itself — a country described by one CIA operative as “a swamp of Jihadis.”
    Barack Obama’s counter-terrorist advisor Bruce Riedel recently stated: “The British Pakistani community is recognised as probably Al Qaeda’s best mechanism for launching an attack against North America.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    twenty-five percent oppose the creation of a worldwide Muslim caliphate.
    Meh, this bit's abit less impactful, I'm sure you would find the same statistics if you asked any group if they oppose the idea of thier religion or country taking over the world. I dont dispute the rest though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Meh, this bit's abit less impactful, I'm sure you would find the same statistics if you asked any group if they oppose the idea of thier religion or country taking over the world. I dont dispute the rest though.
    The rest is more than enough imho, islam is a cancer.

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    The rest is more than enough imho, islam is a cancer.
    Than cut it out: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012...tal-war-islam/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Only nineteen percent of Pakistanis have a negative view of Al Qaeda and by default the Taliban, whilst seventy-five percent wish to see Sharia law implemented. British-born Muslims make an estimated four hundred thousand trips a year to Pakistan, where as many as thirty threats against Britain are being monitored at any given time.
    Thirty-three percent of Muslim students in Britain think killing in the name of Islam is permissible. Only thirty-seven percent oppose the introduction of Sharia law and only twenty-five percent oppose the creation of a worldwide Muslim caliphate.
    When I googled that statement, I found some "British nationalists" site and some site called "angry white dude". But no source for those figures. What is the original source of those statistics, please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    When I googled that statement, I found some "British nationalists" site and some site called "angry white dude". But no source for those figures. What is the original source of those statistics, please?
    Daily Telegraph that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Daily Telegraph that one
    ...The daily Telegraph has a reputation of being biased against damn near everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    ...The daily Telegraph has a reputation of being biased against damn near everyone.
    That means they're the only ones you can trust.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    ...The daily Telegraph has a reputation of being biased against damn near everyone.
    Good company than, but these figures come from you own governement. Yes it's that bad.

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    Unfortunately the sexual exploitation of young poor women and girls is common place around the world. In some cities in England it seems to be a group of men of Pakistani origin who are doing this. In other parts of the country, and the world, other groups exploit young women similarly. Albanian sex traffickers are a major problem in much of Europe. I dare say that if you were to examine the sex trade in South East Asia, you would see a majority of 40-60 year old European, American and Australian men paying for the sexual services of young girls.

    Of course it's important to target the groups who do this in each context. However I think there are several elephants in several rooms.
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    Unfortunately the sexual exploitation of young poor women and girls is common place around the world. In some cities in England it seems to be a group of men of Pakistani origin who are doing this. In other parts of the country, and the world, other groups exploit young women similarly. Albanian sex traffickers are a major problem in much of Europe. I dare say that if you were to examine the sex trade in South East Asia, you would see a majority of 40-60 year old European, American and Australian men paying for the sexual services of young girls.

    Of course it's important to target the groups who do this in each context. However I think there are several elephants in several rooms.
    Well at least we agree on it being men of Pakistani origin..... Well let's skip that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    ...The daily Telegraph has a reputation of being biased against damn near everyone.
    Did they just make those figures up then?
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