Pokemon Nuzlocke FireRed Mafia [Concluded]

[SeveringViper]

vote:choxorn

For the vote on Champ?

Vote: Monty

Why?

You're frustrated with GH's push, do you think he's just being dumb?

[Cuthillius]

For the vote on Champ?



Why?

You're frustrated with GH's push, do you think he's just being dumb?

Yes.

[SeveringViper]

Yes.

Ok.

I think I agree. Vote: Choxorn

[Choxorn]

Yes.

What do you not like about my Champ vote?

[novice]

A selection of Csargo's posts:

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It honestly took me a while to understand this...

You can click on the number of posts outside the thread and then selected whoevers # of posts you want to ISO, or at the top of the page there's a search thread -> advanced search -> input the username of whoever in the box and search. Both ways are a pain, and MU's ISO is far easier.

Sooh's fireworks post is the best thing itt so far. I have yet to fully digest everything that has been said by the top three posters so far. I've been binge watching netflix and I'm sick, so my brain is a bit scrambled at the moment. I'll probably get around to actually reading everything fully tonight, and post thoughts then. I've just been skimming the thread tbh.

This is an odd reaction to Sooh's post. Given how you've pursued D1 so far. I'm unsure of what you're trying to accomplish, Sooh was adding content to the thread, even if the question wasn't directed towards her. So why?

How could Sooh's post effect novice's answer? I'm also unsure as to why you thought the question had value in the first place. I honestly don't understand the logic behind it. Feel like the answer would have to be some iteration of what he said, or else he'd look inconsistent. Are you always this antagonistic in games? Your posts give me that vibe, or am I delusional?

So you saw Sooh's post as influential to your question/novice? I disagree, but to each their own. Mostly concerned with the tone of it all after the fact, rather than the question itself anyways.

Also, for my own understanding mostly, what was the purposed of going after Logic? What value did you gain from that interaction/argument?

I was trying to determine what SV was doing, mostly because some of his reactions and arguments seemed scummy to me, because I didn't see what they accomplished. I think I understand what he's doing, I don't know if it has long-term value, but we'll see.

As far as reads go I don't have much. Think Barto seems himself so far, khaan's sort of half in character and half ooc not sure what to make of that. I'm unsure of SV, but want to see what happens going forward. Not sure I've ever played with SV before. I'm not sure what to make of novice yet, I'll probably go through the thread again tonight and see if anything jumps out to me. Actually I'll try to look through it before I have to work, because the day will be over, before I get off work iirc.

I like what I see so far actually. Is sick so doesn't post, but still reads the thread, as evidenced by the first few posts. Then has a back and forth with Viper which reads as genuine investigation. More would be better of course, but so far I like it.

[Champ]

I don't like manasi
Vote: Manasi

[Choxorn]

I don't like manasi
Vote: Manasi

Why not?

Seriously, explain your thoughts a little more. One-liners don't say much of anything. Why don't you like Manasi, and why do you like Khaan?

[Jabbz]

My time is limited atm, could someone point a few post numbers to me that are making the major arguments against Chox? Thanks.

[Champ]

Why not?

Seriously, explain your thoughts a little more. One-liners don't say much of anything. Why don't you like Manasi, and why do you like Khaan?

i feel like she doesnt want to be here and isnt enjoying herself
she loves being town and her lack of engagement is nagl
i dont like khaan i just dont think hes the best lynch

[novice]

Ok.

I think I agree. Vote: Choxorn

I don't like the vote either.

Choxorn, you seem more concerned with delivering a vote with panache than with actually picking a good target:

Does Vote: Novice count as two words?

Okay, I'll talk about you.

Unvote, Vote: Manasi

Good Question.

Unvote, Vote: Champ

More to the point, you're discussing Seireikhaan's scumminess with Champ, and upon noticing that Champ thinks Seireikhaan has no substance (which he uses as an argument for not voting Seireikhaan), you suddenly realize that Champ has no substance and is scummy for it? It makes no sense. What exactly is your thought process here?

[novice]

My time is limited atm, could someone point a few post numbers to me that are making the major arguments against Chox? Thanks.

I don't think anybody has built a big case, he got votes just now for a dodgy vote on Champ, and he's come across as an unhelpful lurker. He seems to be delurking now though.

[SeveringViper]

My time is limited atm, could someone point a few post numbers to me that are making the major arguments against Chox? Thanks.

His posts numbered 344, 351, and 357.

[Choxorn]

I don't like the vote either.

Choxorn, you seem more concerned with delivering a vote with panache than with actually picking a good target:

I admit, my first two votes were kinda jokey-random votes, the sort of early votes I do when I don't have any real feelings about anyone and just want to prod some people.

And I wasn't around for most of this day, for which I apologize- had a lot going on IRL over the weekend.

More to the point, you're discussing Seireikhaan's scumminess with Champ, and upon noticing that Champ thinks Seireikhaan has no substance (which he uses as an argument for not voting Seireikhaan), you suddenly realize that Champ has no substance and is scummy for it? It makes no sense. What exactly is your thought process here?

I wondered why Champ thought the Seireikhaan votes were stupid, as he put it. Honestly, I don't really like the case on khaan much either, but wanted to hear some more detailed thoughts from Champ on why he thought that.

I didn't really like his response, which prompted me to go look back through his posts, and then I noticed that he'd made mostly one-liner fluff posts before showing up to defend khaan, and he struck me as kinda scummy.

[novice]

Champ: Seems like a strong player. May be self-resolving. Not lynching him today at any rate.

[Manasi]

i feel like she doesnt want to be here and isnt enjoying herself
she loves being town and her lack of engagement is nagl
i dont like khaan i just dont think hes the best lynch

You literally made this up on the spot.

You know I'm in 3 games right now.

You took my scum read on you and flipped it to me and that's insanely unrealistic and inaccurate.

[Manasi]

Champ: Seems like a strong player. May be self-resolving. Not lynching him today at any rate.

LOL STRONG PLAYER ded

[novice]

LOL STRONG PLAYER ded

[SeveringViper]

I didn't really like his response, which prompted me to go look back through his posts, and then I noticed that he'd made mostly one-liner fluff posts before showing up to defend khaan, and he struck me as kinda scummy.

But he didn't show up to defend khaan. Nor did he defend khaan, either. Calling votes on someone stupid because that player hasn't posted any real content to vote them by yet ≠ defending the player. Khaan has done nothing of much value yet and in fact declared he won't for the time being, yet the votes are still stupid, based on stupid reasons (if any were given).

[Choxorn]

LOL STRONG PLAYER ded

Yeah, I don't really get that vibe out of him, either.

Like would a strong player post something like this...

bc there are better lynches but dont ask me lul

And not really have any idea who these "better lynches" are?

Because that's really not a good defense of khaan- it's just saying "Don't lynch Khaan, there's better lynches, I don't know who they are but there's better lynches!"

[Manasi]

Hey qt3.14

How ya feelin'?

I've been sleeping all day so been super in and out of the thread.

Whatcha thinkin' besides your reads list up there?

[Choxorn]

But he didn't show up to defend khaan. Nor did he defend khaan, either. Calling votes on someone stupid because that player hasn't posted any real content to vote them by yet ≠ defending the player. Khaan has done nothing of much value yet and in fact declared he won't for the time being, yet the votes are still stupid, based on stupid reasons (if any were given).

It's not a hard, strong defense, but calling out the votes on khaan and arguing against GH's case on him is still a defense.

[SeveringViper]

You literally made this up on the spot.

You know I'm in 3 games right now.

You took my scum read on you and flipped it to me and that's insanely unrealistic and inaccurate.

You have a light scum read on him for being less active than you'd expect while he's hosting a champs game, he scum reads you for seeming less engaged than he'd expect while you're in three games at once...
How about both reads are dumb?

[SeveringViper]

It's not a hard, strong defense, but calling out the votes on khaan and arguing against GH's case on him is still a defense.

Fair enough.

[Choxorn]

Anyone have a vote tally right now? I think it's 4 on Monty, 3 on Khaan, 2 on GH, and 2 on me, but I'm not really sure.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Monty (4) Logic Bsmith Autolycus Seireikhaan
Khaan (3) GeneralHankerchief Novice Csargo
GH (2) El Barto Sooh
Choxorn (2) SeveringViper Cuthillius
Manasi (1) Champ
SeveringViper (1) Jabbz
Champ (1) choxorn
Sooh Raith (1) Kemmler
invalid vote (1) Monty
No vote (1) Manasi

Logic votes Montmorency
Montmorency votes invalid
BSmith votes Montmorency
GeneralHankerchief votes Khaan
El Barto votes GeneralHankerchief
Champ votes Manasi
Jabbz votes SeveringViper
Manasi votes ----
SeveringViper votes Choxorn
Novice votes Khaan
Csargo votes khaan
Autolycus votes Montmorency
choxorn votes Champ
Cuthillius votes Choxorn
Seireikhaan votes Montmorency
Raith Kemmler votes Sooh
Sooh votes GeneralHankerchief

[Manasi]

You have a light scum read on him for being less active than you'd expect while he's hosting a champs game, he scum reads you for seeming less engaged than he'd expect while you're in three games at once...
How about both reads are dumb?

Rude.

Hosting a game only requires action at two points in the day.

He should be tres more active.

[novice]

I made a few adjustments to the Vote Counter (also useful for ISOing) plugin, I think it understands all the various vote and unvote formats now. Be aware that bold red text won't be counted as a vote unless it's also prefixed with Vote:

Unoffical tally as of post 385:

Lynch votes
4 votes: Montmorency (BSmith, seireikhaan, autolycus, Logic)
3 votes: khaan (Csargo, GeneralHankerchief, novice)
2 votes: choxorn (Cuthillius, SeveringViper)
2 votes: GeneralHankerchief (El Barto, Sooh)
1 votes: Manasi (Champ)
1 votes: Sooh (Raith Kemmler)
1 votes: Champ (Choxorn)
1 votes: Severing Viper (Montmorency)

Voting history:

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Sooh

Raith Kemmler

Raith Kemmler

Novice

GeneralHankerchief

seireikhaan

novice

Novice

Montmorency

Manasi

novice

GeneralHandkerchief

GeneralHandkerchief

Unvote

Unvote

Severing Viper

khaan

Monty

khaan

Jabbz

Montmorency

GH

Champ

choxorn

Monty

Choxorn

Manasi

[Askthepizzaguy]

In one hour, one of you will no longer be able to continue on this journey.

[SeveringViper]

@Choxorn;

Novice looks okay, slight town lean on him right now.

Does this still hold?
You have Logic as town for logical posts, do you agree with his case on Montmorency?
Do you have any other reads?

[GeneralHankerchief]

I have no idea what to think about Chox anymore after I utterly and spectacularly misfired on him in his champs game.