13er summer game thread

**insomnia** · 08-03-2023, 13:19

Winston, your worldview is a bit shaky for me atm. It’s tough to follow it

Can you point out a PoE or something? And where are you at on katze?

**Winston Hughes** · 08-03-2023, 13:26

Originally Posted by insomnia

Winston, your worldview is a bit shaky for me atm. It’s tough to follow it

It's pretty shaky for me too. I've only reached d2 as town twice in the last four years iirc, and both previous times were utter disasters, so I'm not exactly overflowing with confidence here.

Originally Posted by insomnia

Can you point out a PoE or something? And where are you at on katze?

I think katze and visor are most likely scum.

I think cuth is most likely town.

Beyond that, everything is up in the air.

**Achro** · 08-03-2023, 13:27

unvote: katze

Executive decision in my brain to leave katze for last in my thinking. I have devoted too much time to my second favorite MU champs winner, I will come back to them at the close of the show c

**Visor** · 08-03-2023, 13:28

Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

It's pretty shaky for me too. I've only reached d2 as town twice in the last four years iirc, and both previous times were utter disasters, so I'm not exactly overflowing with confidence here.

I think katze and visor are most likely scum.

I think cuth is most likely town.

Beyond that, everything is up in the air.

woah thats like the opposite world view i have

talk to me about katze and cuth

**Winston Hughes** · 08-03-2023, 13:35

Originally Posted by Visor

woah thats like the opposite world view i have

talk to me about katze and cuth

no time for a full unpacking now, but katze is like the inverse of ladd: the latter vibed totally different from when he was scum in my last org game, whereas the former vibes exactly the same; i'm seeing the same tricks used for what appear to be the same purposes

cuth i thought scummy early on because he seemed more knowing, but as the day went on the usual cuthy vibes reappeared and i recognised that what i'd seen as knowing was more likely just greater maturity (bearing in mind that most of my meta for cuth is very old indeed)

**dyachei** · 08-03-2023, 13:41

relly feeling like visor is a wolf, particularly after the vote on me

he should know me well enough to have me as a villager at this point but it doesnt feel like he's actually trying to parse my alignment at all

Like he's asking people about me then ignoring it. He's not talked about what makes my posts here wolfy

I think sk looks worse than visor, but I wouldn't mind voting either one

**Visor** · 08-03-2023, 13:47

Originally Posted by dyachei

relly feeling like visor is a wolf, particularly after the vote on me

he should know me well enough to have me as a villager at this point but it doesnt feel like he's actually trying to parse my alignment at all

Like he's asking people about me then ignoring it. He's not talked about what makes my posts here wolfy

I think sk looks worse than visor, but I wouldn't mind voting either one

i'm just feeling things out smh

walk me through sk (and his potential non me partners)

**dyachei** · 08-03-2023, 13:50

Originally Posted by Visor

i'm just feeling things out smh

walk me through sk (and his potential non me partners)

look, the guy posted early d1 and made absolutely no waves with any of his posting. Then he didn't post cap but waited until EOD post cap lifts to come back and play. it was a 48 phase and he wasn't interested in trying to solve until the last hour. I don't think his solving was very enlightened at that time either. Just read his EOD.

I wasn't feeling cape because tbh, cape came back and was like super aggressive about being a wolf read - he wasn't angry per him but he was accusing everyone else. SK fit the picture better but we ended up elimming cape instead. I couldnt be around at EOD to make this more clear becauase that's when we get AMy ready for bed

He could be partners with literally anyone

**Totally not Taffy** · 08-03-2023, 13:55

Originally Posted by dyachei

I think sk looks worse than visor, but I wouldn't mind voting either one

See... I do agree that both of those are playing in a way that's objectively wolfy, but both of them also can do better, so why aren't they? I'm not eager to vote any of them, but in way it would surprise me less if there were a wolf in (Katze/Benneh) because they're being so ultra-towny than if there were one in (Visor/SK) because they're so very not.

This can be my dumb read of the day.

**Visor** · 08-03-2023, 13:56

Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

See... I do agree that both of those are playing in a way that's objectively wolfy, but both of them also can do better, so why aren't they? I'm not eager to vote any of them, but in way it would surprise me less if there were a wolf in (Katze/Benneh) because they're being so ultra-towny than if there were one in (Visor/SK) because they're so very not.

This can be my dumb read of the day.

damn villagery post bronana, whyd you have to do that

i think people are just failing to adjust to the fact i am never tryharding a ww game ever again

**Achro** · 08-03-2023, 18:56

@katze hello ask me anything solving friend.

Several hours of amime and Broadway music have given me renewed resolve and I am at peace.

Why is katze town? Well I haven't ever faced pack wolf katze but I was considering something that I said yesterday about me and katze were the ones churning butter and I stopped to consider that I think that might be contrary to what the wolves motives were yesterday with how much momentum cape had. Katze also has chosen in a chill game to go after the other top poster which as scum seems not needed to have good thread position and you know be chill. Certainly not to the extent that they have so far. It makes much more intuitive sense that katze sees me as an unknown threat and is treading through tough sledding because they think if they don't wolf achromatic can win. So that's where I get town.

Atm I am at sk/insomnia/? Because sk's vote on insomnia reminded me strongly of suspicion I placed on boq last time I was here. Boq got close to dying as my wolf partner but I read the threadstate correctly and understood he was never in actual danger. I think wolf sk would be looking for that same consideration here to distance. Plus sk has had minimal thread presence, I don't think he was looking to deep wolf at eod and going against the momentum of a cape chop to try to Jill another town feels like an unneeded risk. So I think this was a distancing move and that's why it didn't add up very well. It was meant to be a sloppy attack and for wolves to kind of concede sk today but be set up by that.

I have to back read day 1 still but I saw you said you would be busy tomorrow so I thought I would share some thoughts there.

**SilverKeith** · 08-04-2023, 03:42

Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

See... I do agree that both of those are playing in a way that's objectively wolfy, but both of them also can do better, so why aren't they? I'm not eager to vote any of them, but in way it would surprise me less if there were a wolf in (Katze/Benneh) because they're being so ultra-towny than if there were one in (Visor/SK) because they're so very not.

This can be my dumb read of the day.

I like this post but it also talks like it knows me but I don't think I know them unless they're an alt.