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Montmorency
04-18-2021, 00:57
RAMPAGE OUT OF SPACE
https://i.imgur.com/vTORgs4.jpg
Since 2101 the Unified Marines of the Earth Nations have governed human territory with justice and peaciousity. By promoting brotherhood among the Marine fighting forces of the human factions - the toughest of the tough, the best of the best, the pick of the crop, the creme de la creme, the ne plus ultras, the nonpareils par excellence, e pluribus unum - all former social divisions within the species were quickly overcome for the sake of stanning all Marines.
However, other problems remain. A shadowy cabal of bionically-augmented supermutants strive to smash the new world order because they're bad. Unfortunately, their biochem corpus is far in advance of UMEN's, such that a single bionic soldier is worth ten Marines in battle. In 7 years of hard fighting since the bionics made themselves known, millions have died and 3% of the Earth's landmass has been devastated.
Now, the Unified Marines of the Earth Nations have assembled a task force, the Strike Envelope Sortie (UMENSES) of the very most elite Marines, the baddest dudes around, to engage the deepest organs of the bionic front in a daring insertion operation.
Game Setup
Closed setup: 13 town, 3 mafia, 1 third party. No conversion mechanics. Town wins when all threats to Town have been eliminated. Other factional victory conditions unknown.
Rounds are 48-24 hour phases set around 8:00 PM ET. Day length will be reduced to 24 hours if F5 (Final 5) or lower is reached, and possibly sooner at host discretion. Standard plurality ouster (no hammer). Full reveal on death.
Ties are resolved by Rock-Paper-Scissors. Tied players have 15 minutes to submit 3 RPS moves to the host. Ties will be resolved according to these submissions, whereby all tied players will play three rounds against all other tied players. The player with the fewest cumulative wins will be ousted. Persistent ties following RPS will be decided by RNG. Missing orders will count as all rock for the tiebreaker.
IMPORTANT: There is a hard 125 post cap D1-3, including during EOD. You're strong and silent types, you can manage. However, EOD posts containing only votes do not count against the cap. If you exceed the post cap you may earn a Deathpoint, which will act as a fixed vote against you on the tally the following day. There are no caps after D3.
Twilight is uncapped. Twilight is a 1-hour discussion period following the Day. For convenience, the clock will run from the time the host posts the writeup and reveal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOkto4ZazZ4
Rules
This is an experimental 17er, intended to be anxiety-driven and slightly bastard, in that some role information may be revealed to non-vanilla players over time or on conditional triggers.
DAY RULES
1. Vote to oust a player each day, e.g. Vote: Visorslash. Not allowed are Vote: No Lim (aka Sleep) and Vote: Abstain, since you're all a decisive, rough and ready sort of folk by flavor. Unvoting (Unvote:) is noted, but not required to place a new vote. Stick to this format. Misspellings and nicknames are acceptable as long as they are not obscure.
2. On this forum the players must self-regulate. Do not exceed post caps or you may be penalized. Do not post while day elimination is being resolved - :00 good, :01 bad. Do not post after Twilight is finished.
3. Host will post tallies throughout the day, but players are encouraged to maintain and share their own as well. There will be host messages signalling milestones, such as beginning of EOD or Twilight.
4. Going a day-phase without participating (speaking or voting) puts one at risk of replacement. PM the host if you cannot continue to participate. Do not discuss the nature of substitutions.
5. For the purpose of resolving ties, players may submit/reserve RPS orders ahead of time, especially if they feel they cannot be present for EOD.
COMMUNICATIONS RULES
1. Do not discuss the game publicly outside the game thread.
2. Do not ask the host mechanical questions in the thread.
3. Night begins when Twilight ends. Do not post in thread during Night.
4. Don't reference role PMs or the wording of their flavor in the thread.
5. Living players may not communicate privately or outside the thread, unless they have a good reason. If you are unsure whether you have a good reason, PM the host. Host must be CCed on or have access to all player communications.
6. You may not post screenshots of or directly quote your role PM or mod communications.
7. You may not delete posts in the game thread for any reason at any time. You may make modest edits within 2 minutes of posting. The primary aim is to avoid votes or EOD posts (-1 hour) being modified, so for any edited post with a vote the vote is considered invalid. Keep that in mind.
8. If you die, you may no longer post in the thread. You may continue to Thank posts IF you are only Vanilla Town, or more plainly if you possess no hidden information.
NIGHT RULES
1. If you have actions to submit, the deadline is an hour before Start of Day (SoD-1).
2. Do not post in the thread at Night.
GENERAL RULES
Take a look at this guide (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/152962-Guide-for-players-coming-from-offsite) for players unfamiliar with mafia on the Org. It's earthy, solid, unagenda'd, generally helpful, and answers some common questions. - Zack
1. You are expected to behave civilly. Follow Gameroom and Org rules.
2. Host can act in ad hoc fashion to preserve game integrity if necessary, up to and including Wrath of God (modkill).
Signups:
1. c4e5g3d5 (c4)
2. hollowkatt (hollow/HK)
3. Raskolnikov (Rask)
4. Dolby (Dolbster/Dolb)
5. Winston Hughes (Winston/WH/McGinty)
6. Timsup2nothin (Tim/Tims)
7. Garden Gnome (Gnome/GG)
8. Ibn-Khaldun (Ibn/ IK)
9. Lewwyn (Lew)
10. BorgPicard (Borg/Picard/LA/Argon)
11. Nanook (Nook)
12. Csargo (Csar)
13. Laurentus (Laur)
14. El-Ahrairah (El/El-A)
15. Vroendal (Vro)
16. pzelda (Zelda/Capage/Cap)
17. CutePanda (Panda/CP)
Replacements/Substitutes:
0. LegacyofSmiles (Legacy/Smiles/LoS/Wiml)
--
1. Logic (Yako)
2. Nagisa (Nagi/Ignoramus/Igno)
3. Ampharos (Amp/Amy)
4. Cute Turtle (CT/Turtle)
Montmorency
04-18-2021, 00:57
GAME MILESTONES
D1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053820525&viewfull=1#post2053820525) — Raskolnikov was ousted
N1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053820609&viewfull=1#post2053820609) — c4e5g3d5 and Timsup2nothin were killed
D2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053821368&viewfull=1#post2053821368) — El-Ahrairah was ousted
N2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053821420&viewfull=1#post2053821420) —
D3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053821816&viewfull=1#post2053821816) — Garden Gnome was ousted
N3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053821912&viewfull=1#post2053821912) — Lewwyn, CutePanda, and NANOOK have died
D4 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053822376&viewfull=1#post2053822376) — Ibn-Khaldun was ousted
N4 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053822441&viewfull=1#post2053822441) — pzelda was killed
D5 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053823134&viewfull=1#post2053823134) — BorgPicard was ousted; Vroendal was killed.
N5 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053823167&viewfull=1#post2053823167) — Laurentus was killed
D6 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053823288&viewfull=1#post2053823288) — hollowkatt was ousted
Postmortem (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053823289&viewfull=1#post2053823289)
Game Information (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053823290&viewfull=1#post2053823290)
Host Diary (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053823291&viewfull=1#post2053823291)
Mechanical Discussion (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053823292&viewfull=1#post2053823292)
Inspirations (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053823293&viewfull=1#post2053823293)
Spoilers/reveals
D1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053820525&viewfull=1#post2053820525) — Raskolnikov (VT) was ousted
N1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053820609&viewfull=1#post2053820609) — c4e5g3d5 (VT) and Timsup2nothin (Goon) were killed
D2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053821368&viewfull=1#post2053821368) — El-Ahrairah (VT) was ousted
N2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053821420&viewfull=1#post2053821420) —
D3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053821816&viewfull=1#post2053821816) — Garden Gnome (VT) was ousted
N3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053821912&viewfull=1#post2053821912) — Lewwyn (Technician), CutePanda (VT), and NANOOK (VT)have died
D4 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053822376&viewfull=1#post2053822376) — Ibn-Khaldun (VT) was ousted
N4 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053822441&viewfull=1#post2053822441) — pzelda (Detective) was killed
D5 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053823134&viewfull=1#post2053823134) — BorgPicard (Alien Werewolf/BAKEMONO/Serial Killer) was ousted; Vroendal (Supralatus/Godfather) was killed
N5 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053823167&viewfull=1#post2053823167) — Laurentus (VT) was killed
D6 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154450-Rampage-Out-of-Space?p=2053823288&viewfull=1#post2053823288) — hollowkatt (VT) was ousted
Montmorency
04-18-2021, 00:57
DO NOT POST YET
h y p e
GAME START
Montmorency
04-20-2021, 00:48
The Rampage Begins
https://i.imgur.com/lcGgc4H.png
---Bionic command center---
---Nameless exurb---
---Libertanian continent---
Major Montmorency strolled through the wreckage of smoking corpses to the checkpoint. Established by the last remnants of the last surviving company of the UMEN strike envelope, it monitored the premises of a Ducky Sleaze Shameless Pizza. There were few enough that the Major could communicate by naked voice.
This is it, Marines. Every Bionic in the zone is thought to be neutralized, but a rearguard element fought their way through the underground facility - here he gestured toward the derelict entertainment center - and wiped out the 'ported Marines who previously secured the place. Our intelligence indicates no exits or entrances other than this one, so we figure the Borgs are on a suicide mission to scrap their projects and prevent what all data and technology on site from falling into UMEN's possession. We've got to move in immediately and finish the job so our forensic cordon can move in and seize the invaluable assets surely contained here and throughout the sector.
Here Sergeant Visorslash interrupted to question the wisdom of proceeding without reinforcements amid such great slaughter, no longer having the advantage of surprise either.
Our orders are to suck it up and finish the mission, slacker. Reinforcements have been diverted to resist diversionary Bionic counterattacks worldwide. We don't have the option of withdrawing, and if we sit tight then at a minimum it is likely that the Bionic survivors will fully sabotage the facility and sneak out alive under our noses. Or they'll deploy some sort of superweapon. Or the borg themselves will receive reinforcement, in which case we have better prospects taking a defensive posture within the inner sanctum than around this parking lot. The point is, it's improvise, adapt, or die. Any further complaints?
Yut yut yut yut yut yut yut, came the glum chorus...
The cadre carefully sifted through the outer shell above the facility, the pizza place that had stood abandoned for at least a generation since the evacuation of the sub-urban hinterlands. They combed without incident through the subterranean cargo load, the polished (now with blood and char) waiting area, and the concerningly-superfluous office block. The troops were unnerved by the quiet, and by the constant presence of bodies, both friend and foe, littered about. Though the plan was doubly-risky, spreading fireteams for the tele-sertion throughout the entire complex, rather than in a single area, or on the surface (for a classic envelopment and assault inward), proved to maximize the toll to Bionic operators. It also, of course, assured the deaths of the entire initial bridgehead. Still, the autonomous defense system remained mercifully deactivated, and in relative terms the kill ratio had never been better.
The handful of surviving Bionics would certainly be present in the most valuable sections of the facility now, the laboratories, the armories, and the command room itself.
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After a full day of agonized alert and cavalcade of unnameable horrors witnessed, the Marines made a base in the cafeteria. They had traversed half the known area of the facility, yet no resistance or hint of life had been encountered. The atmosphere had gone from tense and sensitive to eerily oppressive.
Sergeant Visorslash again offered his insight: perhaps, relying on their stealth technology, the Bionics had simply avoided the Marines and snuck out already.
Major Montmorency was dismissive. No chance, sucker. They fought their way in here, so there's something they want to accomplish. Have they already? Why would we believe it? No, they're still here, make no mistake. But your protests about stealth give me a notion...
The Major drew on the Sarge. Troops, attention! We've got intruders, and Mr. Abstain here has to be one of them. The whole plan must have been to embed in our group as we came to secure the facility, picking us off along the way without confronting our strength head on! Men, the real Visorslash must have died bravely many hours ago. Blast that impostor immediately!
While the rest milled in stunned inaction, Visor meekly suggested that the whole group clear itself through cogent discussion and collectively establish who the true Marines are, and who the malign interlopers.
There is general agreement. Maybe ol' Visor will live the mission out yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61NNvNnbQ8U
DAY ONE BEGINS
https://i.imgur.com/jH3X3AA.gif
Phase ends
EOD 1
Living Players (17)
c4e5g3d5 (c4)
hollowkatt (hollow/HK)
Raskolnikov (Raskol/Rask)
Dolby (Dolbster/Dolb)
Winston Hughes (Winston/WH/McGinty)
Timsup2nothin (Tim/Tims)
Garden Gnome (Gnome/GG)
Ibn-Khaldun (Ibn/IK)
Lewwyn (Lew)
BorgPicard (Borg/Picard/LA/Argon)
NANOOK (Nook)
Csargo (Csar)
Laurentus (Laur)
El-ahrairah (El/El-A)
Vroendal (Vro)
pzelda (Zelda/Capage/Cap)
CutePanda (Panda/CP)
Dead Players (0)
Montmorency
04-20-2021, 00:49
HOST NOTICE: RULES UPDATE
One new rule has been added to the OP, and another has been specified better. In short, do not reference or discuss the flavor of your PMs, and do not post in the thread during Night (after Twilight). Also, you may submit RPS orders in advance if you like; I will take them into account if you are part of a tie (useful for people who aren't around at EOD). Don't everyone do this though, or my inbox will be flooded.
These additions can be found colored green in the Rules spoiler in the OP.
Reminder: 125 post cap in effect. You can see your post count in the thread by moving a level up into the Gameroom subforum and clicking on the number of Replies to the thread, on the right side of the screen.
BorgPicard
04-20-2021, 01:01
Hello everyone. I am new to the site and have some questions? What is a Mason? Also what is a role cop and why am I one?
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 01:02
Eighth
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 01:04
Vote: BorgPicard
Hello everyone. I am new to the site and have some questions? What is a Mason? Also what is a role cop and why am I one?
https://media.giphy.com/media/TILnAgzzqYylvNSF8x/giphy.gif
Sergeant Visorslash again offered his insight: perhaps, relying on their stealth technology, the Bionics had simply avoided the Marines and snuck out already.
Major Montmorency was dismissive. No chance, sucker. They fought their way in here, so there's something they want to accomplish. Have they already? Why would we believe it? No, they're still here, make no mistake. But your protests about stealth give me a notion...
https://media.giphy.com/media/U5IXAxSQYXWfEu9ZDY/giphy.gif
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 01:14
Anyone here
BorgPicard
04-20-2021, 01:14
vote: c4
Why would you vote for a law enforcement officer? Unless you were an evil criminal.
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 01:18
Hello friendos!
BorgPicard is a paragon of towniness
BorgPicard
04-20-2021, 01:20
Hello Task I have a night zero read as a cop. Isn't that pretty cool?
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 01:23
I have travelled across the galaxy to vote my friends hollowkatt, but sadly Csargo randed woof.
vote: Csargo :bounce:
BorgPicard
04-20-2021, 01:23
Oops I meant Rask. Thank you Dolby for having the common sense to town read a role cop.
Eighth
https://media.giphy.com/media/h7LtkbDlcqahvLkWV0/giphy.gif
BorgPicard
04-20-2021, 01:24
If you want I can check to see if they are evil like I did Tim.
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 01:24
Hello Task I have a night zero read as a cop. Isn't that pretty cool?
It definatly is :policeman: (but not as much as the org smiley base)
Who's boxed in?
I have travelled across the galaxy to vote my friends hollowkatt, but sadly Csargo randed woof.
vote: Csargo :bounce:
https://media.giphy.com/media/Ni4cpi0uUkd6U/giphy.gif
Vote:Rask
:stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare:
It definatly is :policeman: (but not as much as the org smiley base)
Who's boxed in?
:boxedin:
Just for you
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 01:30
My sarcasm radar is broken.
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 01:30
https://media.giphy.com/media/Ni4cpi0uUkd6U/giphy.gif
Vote:Rask
:stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare::stare:
https://i.imgur.com/e2bsF55.gif
https://i.imgur.com/e2bsF55.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/LMWFwHjPlWxcdSyxmE/giphy.gif
XD
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 01:36
Are most org games like this
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 01:41
https://media.giphy.com/media/LMWFwHjPlWxcdSyxmE/giphy.gif
XD
https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m90j3vXy0x1r8s9oho3_250.gifv
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 01:42
Are most org games like this
Prolly not. But that's what you get joining a game with the CFC gang. What's up?
https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m90j3vXy0x1r8s9oho3_250.gifv
violence, clearly a woof move.
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 01:43
Prolly not. But that's what you get joining a game with the CFC gang. What's up?
Town rands are relieving. You?
Are most org games like this
ngl want to townread this
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 01:45
vote: Raskol for existing and also having more posts than he should by now.
Are most org games like this
There's not many org games, so :shrug:
Is this not to your liking?
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 01:46
24707
this thread right now
ngl want to townread this
why?
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 01:48
There's not many org games, so :shrug:
Is this not to your liking?
Uh... the gifs have their limit for me.
why?
I think it's clear.
he's frustrated at the lack of development in thread. Yeah it can come from mafia, yeah it can be faked by mafia, but I just like it. ~;p
Uh... the gifs have their limit for me.
That didn't take long.
I think it's clear.
he's frustrated at the lack of development in thread. Yeah it can come from mafia, yeah it can be faked by mafia, but I just like it. ~;p
okay, sort of meh but I'll buy it.
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 01:59
Dolby mildly town for doing a thing
Csar town for not doing a thing but sticking to his guns
Will probably forget both of these reads on the first slightly AI post
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 02:06
Dolby mildly town for doing a thing
Csar town for not doing a thing but sticking to his guns
Will probably forget both of these reads on the first slightly AI post
kinda wanna wolf read you for this
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 02:08
kinda wanna wolf read you for this
When the most the thread can do is threaten to do something interesting
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 02:10
When the most the thread can do is threaten to do something interesting
I'm voting Raskol, what do you think of that?
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 02:11
hk where's your SoD1 instant copypasta I miss those
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 02:11
I'm voting Raskol, what do you think of that?
I think absolutely nothing of that
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 02:13
Town rands are relieving. You?
nothing really. tiddy bit disappointed by my rand tbh :bow:
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 02:14
hk where's your SoD1 instant copypasta I miss those
The last time I tried that I got banned
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 02:15
The last time I tried that I got banned
I think we both know there's a little more to that story
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 02:15
nothing really. tiddy bit disappointed by my rand tbh :bow:
says the wolf...
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 02:15
I think we both know there's a little more to that story
I'm just saying there's a distinct correlation between HK SOD1 pasta and HK being banned
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 02:16
vote: Raskol for existing and also having more posts than he should by now.
Both are true. prolly heading off to bed now. :Zzzz:
wolfy poppin HK, grats
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 02:17
says the wolf...
https://media3.giphy.com/media/XuApq8Jm12KIw/giphy.gif
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 02:18
I'm just saying there's a distinct correlation between HK SOD1 pasta and HK being banned
There's a distinct correlation between hk breathing and hk being banned.
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 02:26
There's a distinct correlation between hk breathing and hk being banned.
This made me laugh smh...
Jokes aside, I middly concerned by Dolby read on c4... pocket or ww or NAI? Gonna sleep on it
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 02:27
Guys slow down you're getting way ahead of me
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 02:34
There's a distinct correlation between hk breathing and hk being banned.
ok, that's not entirely fair. I have many sites where I'm not banned and yet have made a post in 2021!
This made me laugh smh...
Jokes aside, I middly concerned by Dolby read on c4... pocket or ww or NAI? Gonna sleep on it
Remind me to ask you about this when you're awake again.
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 02:37
Hey hk I have an alignment
Timsup2nothin
04-20-2021, 02:46
First
How much of the OP can I skip without being hopelessly lost
Is it more or less than the amount of the thread I'm going to skip?
Timsup2nothin
04-20-2021, 03:02
How much of the OP can I skip without being hopelessly lost
Is it more or less than the amount of the thread I'm going to skip?
probably equal
I'm a little puzzled by the OP
the thread is simple; we just chop Raskol, Chessguy, and HK, and if the wolves haven't slaughtered Argon for claiming cop we circle back and chop him
BorgPicard
04-20-2021, 03:09
I think the wolves will kill you first for me claiming to have cop checked you as a Mason.
Timsup2nothin
04-20-2021, 03:13
I think the wolves will kill you first for me claiming to have cop checked you as a Mason.
my partner will protect me...they are a doc/mason
probably equal
I'm a little puzzled by the OP
the thread is simple; we just chop Raskol, Chessguy, and HK, and if the wolves haven't slaughtered Argon for claiming cop we circle back and chop him
We kill tim with fire, I hear you loud and clear
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 04:10
Hey hk I have an alignment
I'll just bet you do
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 04:11
probably equal
I'm a little puzzled by the OP
the thread is simple; we just chop Raskol, Chessguy, and HK, and if the wolves haven't slaughtered Argon for claiming cop we circle back and chop him
interesting
nothing really. tiddy bit disappointed by my rand tbh :bow:
i'm not sure i believe this, given how you've posted.
I think it's clear.
he's frustrated at the lack of development in thread. Yeah it can come from mafia, yeah it can be faked by mafia, but I just like it. ~;p
What do you think now Dolby ?
Timsup2nothin
04-20-2021, 05:01
There's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark out, we're wearing sunglasses, and I'm killing Csargo.
There's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark out, we're wearing sunglasses, and I'm killing Csargo.
:on_yellowcard:
Winston Hughes
04-20-2021, 08:06
Hardclaim: Muller
Hardclaim: Muller
Hmmmm I don't get it, maybe I should mull it over more.
ngl want to townread this
I think it's clear.
he's frustrated at the lack of development in thread. Yeah it can come from mafia, yeah it can be faked by mafia, but I just like it. ~;p
I like Dolby for liking this.
Good morning fellow space citizens!
Page 1 - It looks like there's a wolf in csargo/rask. Dolby feels good. Borg guts town for fake derping.
Page 2 - I guess both wolves and towns posted on the page, but nothing decisive.
Page 3 - Lewwyn's choice of posts to respond to is noteworthy, but too light to be alignment indicative. Csargo being more active than usual is mildly unsettling.
Overall, not much to talk about yet. HK and Csargo could be waffles together, if Rask town, but that's a nasty association I got here. HK's approach to this game feels slightly diferent than the last time, but my alignment was different back then and It was easy to see towniness in his posts.
Rask feels really hyped for this game despite claiming light disappointment about his role. I haven't decided if it's a good look yet.
C4 posted enough for me to notice them, but that's all I can say about their posts with certainty.
Tim not flooding the gates with posts probably should be a villa lean, but it would be a meh meta lean.
Villa leans: Dolby, Borg
Scum potential: Rask, Csargo, HK
Ok, It looks like the thread is dead right now. I'll be back in the evening and as I have a lot of work to do overnight, I probably will be here a lot.
Tim not flooding the gates with posts probably should be a villa lean, but it would be a meh meta lean.
Would scum Tim flood the thread?
BorgPicard
04-20-2021, 12:31
Yes
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 13:11
C4 posted enough for me to notice them, but that's all I can say about their posts with certainty.
Not being able to make a read on me by now is some bs.
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 13:40
Csargo: I am hype to play again around here and with this roster. Still disappointed by the rand though. (and amused people will read into this)
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 13:41
Hardclaim: Muller
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c8/c0/2a/c8c02a28f139d8ed10bff91b6f555df8.gif
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 13:42
I like Dolby for liking this.
What did you like about it? and why?
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 13:44
I think I am gonna TR Tim for wanting Csargo's head. (I am going to ignore the fact he wants them all for the time being, he made a seperate post for Csargo which feels about right)
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 14:05
Whose thread?
Thread's dead baby
https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-27-2017/Vk_F1c.gif
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 14:35
Whose thread?
Thread's dead baby
https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-27-2017/Vk_F1c.gif
where we're going we don't need threads
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 15:08
Rask is town
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 15:31
I think you're wrong
CutePanda
04-20-2021, 16:24
It seems quite abstract from pzelda , he starts reading wolf based on nothing. D1 reads seems quite out of place to me .
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 16:42
Panda towny
Csargo: I am hype to play again around here and with this roster. Still disappointed by the rand though. (and amused people will read into this)
alright, this makes some sense to me then. I didn't get a feeling of disappointment from your posts, more H Y P E, but :shrug:
Not being able to make a read on me by now is some bs.
You're pretty neutral, I don't really have a read on you either. feel like pzelda's take is about right.
Timsup2nothin
04-20-2021, 17:59
So: early reads...these are obviously subject to development, but will be decisive. Nulls are for wimps.
Argon: in first, claims cop, claims ridiculous n0 check on me, uses avatar basically open referencing that he is a wolf...just another day in the life for him...if he is a wolf he has partners and at least some of those partners would be saying "WTF dude?" because they don't know him. No sign of that discomfort; Argon town.
Chessguy: lots of posts, creates image of "let's get started" by picking at gif posters but doesn't say anything really, overeager to be read on this; probs just a wolf.
Csargo: throwing them gif, but a LOT of them, then shifted to words and stayed overbusy for Csargo; probs a wolf.
Raskol: Emphasizing "disappointed by the rand" which is code for "I claim village," doesn't mention me until he finds a way to be agreeable instead of challenging immediately so trying to stay off radar; probs a wolf.
Dolby: meaningless paragoning of Argon, early read of Chessguy that I disagree with, challenged and stuck to it in a good way. Town.
Hollowkatt: comes in swinging to draw attention, early targeting on Raskol so reval as potential w/w there, seems to be worried about me an appropriate amount. Town
Nanook: enters by establishing slanker cred, immediately threatens to kill the person that helps him. Town
Winston: entry by Hardclaim, no additional posts. lean town
Lewynn: entry is softballed off previous post, but second post indicates reading of full thread, then back to softballing off another entry. Probs wolf
Pzelda: opens with a developed reads post which he just got wolf bombed for last time I saw him and he didn't get bombed for it here. May just have done a better job of it, but... Probs just town.
Panda: points out Pzeldas read post as unique, which is accurate, but wolfs it just for that without challenging the reads. Wolf
Many not posted yet. Gnome, Ibn, Laurentus, El, Vro...get your stuff together.
Rask is town
I'm not sure about that. I actually find his later posts wolfy. They're a stretch of four posts, which could be one. It looks like activity for activity's sake. I like HK's reaction to this post of yours and I think Csargo might be just Csargo again. At least that's where I'm at rn.
Vote: Raskolnikov
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 18:31
So: early reads...these are obviously subject to development, but will be decisive. Nulls are for wimps.
Argon: in first, claims cop, claims ridiculous n0 check on me, uses avatar basically open referencing that he is a wolf...just another day in the life for him...if he is a wolf he has partners and at least some of those partners would be saying "WTF dude?" because they don't know him. No sign of that discomfort; Argon town.
Chessguy: lots of posts, creates image of "let's get started" by picking at gif posters but doesn't say anything really, overeager to be read on this; probs just a wolf.
Csargo: throwing them gif, but a LOT of them, then shifted to words and stayed overbusy for Csargo; probs a wolf.
Raskol: Emphasizing "disappointed by the rand" which is code for "I claim village," doesn't mention me until he finds a way to be agreeable instead of challenging immediately so trying to stay off radar; probs a wolf.
Dolby: meaningless paragoning of Argon, early read of Chessguy that I disagree with, challenged and stuck to it in a good way. Town.
Hollowkatt: comes in swinging to draw attention, early targeting on Raskol so reval as potential w/w there, seems to be worried about me an appropriate amount. Town
Nanook: enters by establishing slanker cred, immediately threatens to kill the person that helps him. Town
Winston: entry by Hardclaim, no additional posts. lean town
Lewynn: entry is softballed off previous post, but second post indicates reading of full thread, then back to softballing off another entry. Probs wolf
Pzelda: opens with a developed reads post which he just got wolf bombed for last time I saw him and he didn't get bombed for it here. May just have done a better job of it, but... Probs just town.
Panda: points out Pzeldas read post as unique, which is accurate, but wolfs it just for that without challenging the reads. Wolf
Many not posted yet. Gnome, Ibn, Laurentus, El, Vro...get your stuff together.
you're paying a lot more attention than I am. Are you town? I just wanna sheep
Timsup2nothin
04-20-2021, 18:44
It's five short pages. Don't be such a weakling.
Yes I'm town, but still.
Besides, there's an obvious flaw in my reads since five people haven't posted and I'm already at five wolves.
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 19:06
It's five short pages. Don't be such a weakling.
Yes I'm town, but still.
Besides, there's an obvious flaw in my reads since five people haven't posted and I'm already at five wolves.
I see that as a feature, not a bug
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 19:06
I'm also incredibly lazy
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 19:39
Tim's reads are highly Tim-indicative.
I'm not sure about that. I actually find his later posts wolfy. They're a stretch of four posts, which could be one. It looks like activity for activity's sake. I like HK's reaction to this post of yours and I think Csargo might be just Csargo again. At least that's where I'm at rn.
Vote: Raskolnikov
That's a common posting style what are you talking about
I know you're not new to this mafia thing
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 19:41
Besides, there's an obvious flaw in my reads
There are a couple at least but nevermind that for now.
I'm also incredibly lazy
and wolfy bro.
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 19:42
@c4: what did you find villagery in my posts?
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 19:44
vote: Winston Hughes
:duel:
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 19:46
@c4: what did you find villagery in my posts?
Looked like you were fucking around first and foremost and doing town stuff second. Makes the town stuff look real.
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 19:46
Worth saying at this point that if this is a 10 pages day, wolves will have a blast.
Raskolnikov
04-20-2021, 19:50
Looked like you were fucking around first and foremost and doing town stuff second. Makes the town stuff look real.
I think what u bring up is smh NAI and meta dependant but OK.
Has your read on Dolby evolved since yesterday?
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 19:54
I think what u bring up is smh NAI and meta dependant but OK.
Has your read on Dolby evolved since yesterday?
Nope.
Montmorency
04-20-2021, 20:49
HOST TALLY 1-1
Rask (3): Csargo, Hollow, Zelda
Borg (1): c4
c4 (1): Borg
Winston (1): Rask
Not Voting (11): Dolby, Winston, Tim, Gnome, Ibn, Lewwyn, Nanook, Laurentus, El-A, Vroendal, Panda
Movement
[Rask] Csargo >> Winston
You are all very far from the post cap, so don't feel constrained.
BorgPicard
04-20-2021, 21:04
I really don't have much to go on other than we don't need to worry about Tim. My cop check on him has shown me that he will be mechanically a no factor.
Winston Hughes
04-20-2021, 21:14
spricht keiner von euch deutsch?
oder ist es so, dass meine Lügen mich eingeholt haben und niemand mehr etwas glaubt, was ich "hardclaim"?
Winston Hughes
04-20-2021, 21:16
vote: Winston Hughes
:duel:
vote: Raskolnikov
:charge:
Garden Gnome
04-20-2021, 21:17
you're paying a lot more attention than I am. Are you town? I just wanna sheep
Hi, I'm here. Are you town?
Garden Gnome
04-20-2021, 21:19
This feels like a very shy thread. Anyone could be a scummy scum scum. I read it all and am happily clueless.:help:
Winston Hughes
04-20-2021, 21:21
This feels like a very shy thread. Anyone could be a scummy scum scum. I read it all and am happily clueless.:help:
I also am without the clues, Queen Gnome. Maybe they all are scum?
Garden Gnome
04-20-2021, 21:32
I also am without the clues, Queen Gnome. Maybe they all are scum?
That would be crazy if you and I were the only townies and everyone else was scum!!!
Winston Hughes
04-20-2021, 21:34
That would be crazy if you and I were the only townies and everyone else was scum!!!
It is 'slightly bastard' after all!
Fear not, though, we shall find a way to prevail, I am sure of it.
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 21:44
Hi, I'm here. Are you town?
signs point to yes
Garden Gnome
04-20-2021, 21:46
signs point to yes
Thank you for letting me know.
Who are your scum reads right now?
And who are your town reads?
Garden Gnome
04-20-2021, 21:47
It is 'slightly bastard' after all!
Fear not, though, we shall find a way to prevail, I am sure of it.
Awesome! I have no fear of us being overwhelmed and crushed by the wicked scummy scum scums!!!
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 21:59
Thank you for letting me know.
Who are your scum reads right now?
And who are your town reads?
other than Raskol I don't have any reads
Garden Gnome
04-20-2021, 22:23
other than Raskol I don't have any reads
okay, that's fair.
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 22:38
other than Raskol I don't have any reads
:/
Do I need to AtE selfvote for you to have a read on me?
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 22:38
okay, that's fair.
why?
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 22:40
:/
Do I need to AtE selfvote for you to have a read on me?
sure, but my read would be policy chop ;-)
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 22:42
hk can you put some words on that Rask read?
Ibn-Khaldun
04-20-2021, 22:44
Many not posted yet. Gnome, Ibn, Laurentus, El, Vro...get your stuff together.
I have been keeping my eye on the thread.
Don't know who to vote yet.
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 22:46
Ibn-Khaldun strongest read in either direction gogogo
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 22:47
hk can you put some words on that Rask read?
no, not really. It's a gut thing in the way that he was interacting earlier. If I had words I'd have said them already basically.
Raskol isn't usually incredibly hype about his rand in my experience, unless he's randed with people he likes (as wolf) or he's got a solidly townie role.
He was super hype and had a lot of fun when Tim and I randed wolf with him, so when he says "tiddy bit disappointed with my rand" I'm not sure what to make of that.
I love randing town, VT specifically. I don't have to worry about play or whatever, I can just post, be free, and have fun. Randing wolf makes me nervous and tense, randing town PR has happened so infrequently that I can't really describe how it makes me feel.
Anyways, that's a lot of words to say "no, sorry"
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 22:48
hk is town
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 22:51
hk is town
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Ibn-Khaldun
04-20-2021, 23:07
@Ibn-Khaldun (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=25845) strongest read in either direction gogogo
Don't think Rask is mafia.
Csargo could be one?
Garden Gnome
04-20-2021, 23:15
why?
because of the lack of information in this game.
LA is a paragon, sorry I don't make the rules
okay, sort of meh but I'll buy it.
fine
kinda wanna wolf read you for this
Why?
Both are true. prolly heading off to bed now. :Zzzz:
wolfy poppin HK, grats
Not really?
This made me laugh smh...
Jokes aside, I middly concerned by Dolby read on c4... pocket or ww or NAI? Gonna sleep on it
this is bleh. Like, it feels like you're picking at the post for the reason that it happens to exist and that I gave the first read.
What do you think now Dolby ?
I feel mildly fine with him. Just vibes
I like Dolby for liking this.
I like Lewwyn for Lewwyn liking me for me liking Chessguy :p
Good morning fellow space citizens!
Page 1 - It looks like there's a wolf in csargo/rask. Dolby feels good. Borg guts town for fake derping.
Page 2 - I guess both wolves and towns posted on the page, but nothing decisive.
Page 3 - Lewwyn's choice of posts to respond to is noteworthy, but too light to be alignment indicative. Csargo being more active than usual is mildly unsettling.
Overall, not much to talk about yet. HK and Csargo could be waffles together, if Rask town, but that's a nasty association I got here. HK's approach to this game feels slightly diferent than the last time, but my alignment was different back then and It was easy to see towniness in his posts.
Rask feels really hyped for this game despite claiming light disappointment about his role. I haven't decided if it's a good look yet.
C4 posted enough for me to notice them, but that's all I can say about their posts with certainty.
Tim not flooding the gates with posts probably should be a villa lean, but it would be a meh meta lean.
Villa leans: Dolby, Borg
Scum potential: Rask, Csargo, HK
Felt that I could get something in here but not really. I guess it's a good look that he's probably looking in the right spot for page 1, but as Pzelda says, not much to talk about yet. I guess I don't like that there's more scum potential than villa leans but w/e?
I think I am gonna TR Tim for wanting Csargo's head. (I am going to ignore the fact he wants them all for the time being, he made a seperate post for Csargo which feels about right)
I think that Tims has only really made declarative statements?
It seems quite abstract from pzelda , he starts reading wolf based on nothing. D1 reads seems quite out of place to me .
Talk about these more pls
I think what u bring up is smh NAI and meta dependant but OK.
Has your read on Dolby evolved since yesterday?
Bad
So here's my problem with Rask. It feels like he's mashing his mouthparts together and expecting something substantial to come out, but it's not. We've got his second sussing Csargo, that I was writing off as a joke until I saw this
I think I am gonna TR Tim for wanting Csargo's head. (I am going to ignore the fact he wants them all for the time being, he made a seperate post for Csargo which feels about right)
literally everything Tims made at that point was declarative statements which didn't show any process, just an "ok I think that these three people are bad". He makes a "separate post" about Csargo which is all about him wanting to go full throttle for ??? reasons. I can write off the HK and Winston stuff as rask just doing whatever, but it feels like activity for activities sake
We also have this
I think what u bring up is smh NAI and meta dependant but OK.
Has your read on Dolby evolved since yesterday?
This is just asking a question for it's own sake. Why would c4 change his read on me? I hadn't posted since
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 23:31
because of the lack of information in this game.
ok. I thought your response was a little weird b/c I'm not used to people saying "oh, that's all you've got, ok" and then moving on.
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 23:35
LA is a paragon, sorry I don't make the rules
Dolby mildly town for doing a thing
Csar town for not doing a thing but sticking to his guns
Will probably forget both of these reads on the first slightly AI post
kinda wanna wolf read you for this
Why?
Because it feels like reads that are super easy to toss into the thread that can be moved off of at any time. And also somewhat contradictory thinking.
Both are true. prolly heading off to bed now. :Zzzz:
wolfy poppin HK, grats
Not really?
I think he's talking about my avatar there and nothing more.
hollowkatt
04-20-2021, 23:35
Dolby is town tho until he's not
i didn't think chess squares person was frustrated at the lack of development of the thread, and just didn't like the gif posting, I could be assuming too much though.
that's the way it looked post your read, so I wondered if it changed anything for you Dolby.
i didn't think chess squares person was frustrated at the lack of development of the thread, and just didn't like the gif posting, I could be assuming too much though.
that's the way it looked post your read, so I wondered if it changed anything for you Dolby.
Still got same vibe a bit on page 2 (I'm on 40 ppp)
Still got same vibe a bit on page 2 (I'm on 40 ppp)
i'll go back and read again, that's not really the vibe I got last night.
i'll go back and read again, that's not really the vibe I got last night.
it just felt like bantering with hk
c4e5g3d5
04-20-2021, 23:53
Wolf hk doesn't play to get townread. Wolf hk plays to win.
no, not really. It's a gut thing in the way that he was interacting earlier. If I had words I'd have said them already basically.
Raskol isn't usually incredibly hype about his rand in my experience, unless he's randed with people he likes (as wolf) or he's got a solidly townie role.
He was super hype and had a lot of fun when Tim and I randed wolf with him, so when he says "tiddy bit disappointed with my rand" I'm not sure what to make of that.
I love randing town, VT specifically. I don't have to worry about play or whatever, I can just post, be free, and have fun. Randing wolf makes me nervous and tense, randing town PR has happened so infrequently that I can't really describe how it makes me feel.
Anyways, that's a lot of words to say "no, sorry"
Wolf hk doesn't pass up the chance to keep shading me for being impatient. Wolf hk probably doesn't bother with trying to put on a stream of consciousness. Wolf hk probably doesn't need to hedge on Rask either; he doesn't push subtly. He'd just go for the kill.
Also the stream of consciousness itself is towny. Lines up with hk getting pinged by the thing and having trouble articulating it. Lots of detail in the thoughts that isn't trivial to make up quickly. Shows an honest effort to put something on paper for his read, probably because he sees I'm impatient and doesn't want to antagonize me all game, or something like that. Wolf hk wants to antagonize me all game.
Gonna shield this for a while.
BorgPicard
04-21-2021, 00:08
It is nice being town cop so I can be certain of my reads. So I can assure everyone don't worry about Tim.
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 01:43
Wolf hk doesn't play to get townread. Wolf hk plays to win.
hk can you put some words on that Rask read?
no, not really. It's a gut thing in the way that he was interacting earlier. If I had words I'd have said them already basically.
Raskol isn't usually incredibly hype about his rand in my experience, unless he's randed with people he likes (as wolf) or he's got a solidly townie role.
He was super hype and had a lot of fun when Tim and I randed wolf with him, so when he says "tiddy bit disappointed with my rand" I'm not sure what to make of that.
I love randing town, VT specifically. I don't have to worry about play or whatever, I can just post, be free, and have fun. Randing wolf makes me nervous and tense, randing town PR has happened so infrequently that I can't really describe how it makes me feel.
Anyways, that's a lot of words to say "no, sorry"
Wolf hk doesn't pass up the chance to keep shading me for being impatient. Wolf hk probably doesn't bother with trying to put on a stream of consciousness. Wolf hk probably doesn't need to hedge on Rask either; he doesn't push subtly. He'd just go for the kill.
Also the stream of consciousness itself is towny. Lines up with hk getting pinged by the thing and having trouble articulating it. Lots of detail in the thoughts that isn't trivial to make up quickly. Shows an honest effort to put something on paper for his read, probably because he sees I'm impatient and doesn't want to antagonize me all game, or something like that. Wolf hk wants to antagonize me all game.
Gonna shield this for a while.
While you're at it do you want to psychoanalyze me b/c holy fuck you're good lol
100% in your pocket, I hope it's comfy
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 01:44
It is nice being town cop so I can be certain of my reads. So I can assure everyone don't worry about Tim.
vote: BorgPicard
BorgPicard
04-21-2021, 01:51
Hollowkat confirmed mafia. Why else would he vote for the town cop. Tim can confirm to you in your mafia chat that he is vanilla town and that my n0 peek is 100% legit.
Hollowkat confirmed mafia. Why else would he vote for the town cop. Tim can confirm to you in your mafia chat that he is vanilla town and that my n0 peek is 100% legit.
:dizzy2:
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 02:01
Hollowkat confirmed mafia. Why else would he vote for the town cop. Tim can confirm to you in your mafia chat that he is vanilla town and that my n0 peek is 100% legit.
BorgPicard right now:
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hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 02:02
UGH WHY IS IT TINY
UGH WHY IS IT TINY
It converts it to an attachment, if it's from your pc. if it's a url you have to unclick the check box
Garden Gnome
04-21-2021, 02:11
It is nice being town cop so I can be certain of my reads. So I can assure everyone don't worry about Tim.
there is something impressively fake about this post. How can you be certain of your reads if you're town?
Garden Gnome
04-21-2021, 02:13
Hollowkat confirmed mafia. Why else would he vote for the town cop. Tim can confirm to you in your mafia chat that he is vanilla town and that my n0 peek is 100% legit.
You still seem to have too much confidence. If everyone were to vote you, would that mean that everyone but you is mafia?
c4e5g3d5
04-21-2021, 02:14
And now am I allowed to call this sad?
c4e5g3d5
04-21-2021, 02:17
There's a postcap that's collecting dust.
And now am I allowed to call this sad?
probably so at this point.
BorgPicard
04-21-2021, 02:23
You still seem to have too much confidence. If everyone were to vote you, would that mean that everyone but you is mafia?
I am town cop. Every night I get to choose a target and if they are mafia the message tells me. I trust the great messenger to tell the truth. So I get 100% certainty that my target is good or bad. That is why I am so confident. I get mechanic clearance unlike the the other town members who have to do things like meta reads or vote analysis.
There are a couple at least but nevermind that for now.
and wolfy bro.
I kind of like this from Rask, because HK calling himself lazy indeed is wolfy. Let's wait and see.
Also, despite being fairly active and calling people towns, I can't find any reason to tr C4.
Winston and Gnome feel alright, maybe slightly mason-ish. ~;)
c4e5g3d5
04-21-2021, 02:49
Also, despite being fairly active and calling people towns, I can't find any reason to tr C4.
I am objectively playing the most pro-town of anyone right now.
Did you see the hk read? Agree? Disagree? That's close to a lock for me.
Wolf hk doesn't play to get townread. Wolf hk plays to win.
Wolf hk doesn't pass up the chance to keep shading me for being impatient. Wolf hk probably doesn't bother with trying to put on a stream of consciousness. Wolf hk probably doesn't need to hedge on Rask either; he doesn't push subtly. He'd just go for the kill.
Also the stream of consciousness itself is towny. Lines up with hk getting pinged by the thing and having trouble articulating it. Lots of detail in the thoughts that isn't trivial to make up quickly. Shows an honest effort to put something on paper for his read, probably because he sees I'm impatient and doesn't want to antagonize me all game, or something like that. Wolf hk wants to antagonize me all game.
Gonna shield this for a while.
Feels pretty legit to me both on hk and c4, feel better about both of them.
I kind of like this from Rask, because HK calling himself lazy indeed is wolfy. Let's wait and see.
Also, despite being fairly active and calling people towns, I can't find any reason to tr C4.
Winston and Gnome feel alright, maybe slightly mason-ish. ~;)
What's wrong with c4? Do you have a specific problem with how they're posting?
For D1 I think they're a solid tl so far for me.
I am town cop. Every night I get to choose a target and if they are mafia the message tells me. I trust the great messenger to tell the truth. So I get 100% certainty that my target is good or bad. That is why I am so confident. I get mechanic clearance unlike the the other town members who have to do things like meta reads or vote analysis.
So you got a target before the game started?
Why claim so early?
I kind of like this from Rask, because HK calling himself lazy indeed is wolfy. Let's wait and see.
Also, despite being fairly active and calling people towns, I can't find any reason to tr C4.
Winston and Gnome feel alright, maybe slightly mason-ish. ~;)
Hmmmm, what about Winston makes you think he's tl? The interchange between winston and gnome has not really engendered anything beyond a null tell for me. I might even feel a bit of a woofy vibe.
What did you like about it? and why?
It felt like a pretty honest interaction to me. Dolby reads c4 as being more frustrated by the slower speed of development of the thread, and I think it's a good read.
Since then I think C4 has also leaned more town for me with his HK read, and Dolby has also continued to feel pretty townie, rather open and easy in manner.
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 03:14
You still seem to have too much confidence. If everyone were to vote you, would that mean that everyone but you is mafia?
BorgPicard, also known as LordArgon, is well known for claiming Cop D1 with his very first posts, and then maintaining that claim till he dies. He also plays with a lot of chutzpah and confidence.
Basically this is NAI for him here. Still, kinda wanna do brutal day murder to him
Rask is town
You told Rask he looked village because he fucked around first and then did town stuff after. Do you still hold on that read for him?
BorgPicard, also known as LordArgon, is well known for claiming Cop D1 with his very first posts, and then maintaining that claim till he dies. He also plays with a lot of chutzpah and confidence.
Basically this is NAI for him here. Still, kinda wanna do brutal day murder to him
So does he claim it when he's both town and not cop and when he's scum?
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 03:17
I kind of like this from Rask, because HK calling himself lazy indeed is wolfy. Let's wait and see.
Also, despite being fairly active and calling people towns, I can't find any reason to tr C4.
Winston and Gnome feel alright, maybe slightly mason-ish. ~;)
how is calling myself lazy wolfy? I definitely haven't been playing with any kind of alacrity or presence. I've been responding to things I think are interesting or neat, and ignoring things I don't particularly care about.
C4 is an easy town read to toss off, he's active, solving some people, and generally posting with the flow of things. None of which are townie on their own, but taken as a whole they're indicative of being more townie than not.
If he's a wolf he eventually needs to wolf read town, yeah? When that happens we'll be able to start solving him IF we need to.
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 03:20
So does he claim it when he's both town and not cop and when he's scum?
yeah, yeah he does. There's a game on Mafia Universe, the Mario 2 game in the CFC subforum where he was wolf, claimed cop. I've also seen him be not a cop and claim it as town.
Basically that's his shtick.
He's most likely to be wolf read when he's making pushes that don't make sense or when he's not engaging with and interacting with "real" posts as opposed to fluff. His activity level also tends to die down as wolf as the game goes on.
As town Borg will be more active as the game goes on in terms of real posts/reads/engagement, and he typically does his best posting/solving D2/3 and beyond
So Borg claims cop and to have already targeted Tims. And claimed that Tims is good. I inherently don't believe this.
Why target Tims?
My initial read after the first 12 hours was Tim was a bit scummy, but multiple people corroborate his playing style as highly town Tim. His later longer read post could easily go either way for me. I like a good set of reads to then be able to stick people to, but it's also an easy way for a wolf to get good.
Is Csargo Csargo? I didn't like earlier posts, but more recently have felt it to be more real. Is my reasoning that he fucks around and that that makes his later townie stuff feel more real, IE: C4's reasoning on Rask? Possibly
Rask I'm on the fence about.
I don't really have good vibes about Winston or Gnome yet. I'd place my suspicions in that direction, not sure which of the two yet. Winston how do you feel about Rask?
Is your vote serious hk?
Do you love or hate his vote?
Do you love or hate his vote?
I don't like it, but I've been assuming it's a joke vote this entire time.
Dolby asked about this too:
It seems quite abstract from pzelda , he starts reading wolf based on nothing. D1 reads seems quite out of place to me .
I'm interested too. pzelda is an object of curiosity.
I don't like it, but I've been assuming it's a joke vote this entire time.
You would prefer to wait on Borg and see how he plays down the line? Given that HK also implies that Borg is an easier read on D2/D3 it would make sense for HK to pursue other targets I agree.
I would vote for borg based on today, but actually hk's own words have convinced me not to.
You would prefer to wait on Borg and see how he plays down the line? Given that HK also implies that Borg is an easier read on D2/D3 it would make sense for HK to pursue other targets I agree.
I would vote for borg based on today, but actually hk's own words have convinced me not to.
yeah, hk's analysis of borg is on point, and that leads me to tl him. i don't really see any reservation from borg interacting with people and that's usually a pretty good indicator of their alignment imo.
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 04:48
my goal here is to eat the N1 or dunk on Wolf Tim in F3
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 04:49
Is your vote serious hk?
sure, why not?
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 04:50
So Borg claims cop and to have already targeted Tims. And claimed that Tims is good. I inherently don't believe this.
Why target Tims?
My initial read after the first 12 hours was Tim was a bit scummy, but multiple people corroborate his playing style as highly town Tim. His later longer read post could easily go either way for me. I like a good set of reads to then be able to stick people to, but it's also an easy way for a wolf to get good.
Is Csargo Csargo? I didn't like earlier posts, but more recently have felt it to be more real. Is my reasoning that he fucks around and that that makes his later townie stuff feel more real, IE: C4's reasoning on Rask? Possibly
Rask I'm on the fence about.
I don't really have good vibes about Winston or Gnome yet. I'd place my suspicions in that direction, not sure which of the two yet. Winston how do you feel about Rask?
Wait who's town reading Tim? There's no way anyone should be town reading him currently
HK:
Tim not flooding the gates with posts probably should be a villa lean, but it would be a meh meta lean.
I asked if Scum tim would flood thread, Borg answers yes.
So while it's not a town lean its a meta town lean, of which I'm not sure about based on my unfamiliarity.
Montmorency
04-21-2021, 04:58
HOST TALLY 1-2
Rask (3): Csargo, Zelda, Winston
Borg (2): c4, Hollow
c4 (1): Borg
Winston (1): Rask
Not Voting (10): Dolby, Tim, Gnome, Ibn, Lewwyn, Nanook, Laurentus, El-A, Vroendal, Panda
Movement
[Rask] Csargo >> Winston
[Hollow] Rask >>> Borg
EOD 1
You are all very far from the post cap, so don't feel constrained.
Laurentus
El-ahrairah
Vroendal
Please post/vote at least once per day.
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 05:03
HK:
I asked if Scum tim would flood thread, Borg answers yes.
So while it's not a town lean its a meta town lean, of which I'm not sure about based on my unfamiliarity.
ahh gotcha, ok.
I've found Tim to generally flood regardless of alignment.
When Tim is town generally he will find things he doesn't like about someone and poke at them till they either cough up a wolf pelt OR they are found to be town.
When Tim is a wolf generally he lets the thread take it's own direction and will nudge things along but doesn't "hard push" obvs townies.
Dunno wtf Tim is doing in this game tho. I want to town read him for a couple posts, including his reads list even though he says it's inaccurate and has too many wolves.
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 05:05
:on_dead:
Embrace the Slack
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hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 05:06
Also yes, my vote on Borg is legit
Also yes, my vote on Borg is legit
could you lay out why? i don't see anything wrong with their posts, other than that weird one, which is par for the course for la
Timsup2nothin
04-21-2021, 05:32
Dunno wtf Tim is doing in this game tho. I want to town read him for a couple posts, including his reads list even though he says it's inaccurate and has too many wolves.
Okay this is the only honest thing that has been said about me this game so far. So far I joked about collecting three heads and circling back for Argon. That is a pretty typical joke for me. The Blues Brothers not quite quote about killing Csargo was also I thought pretty obviously mostly a joke.
The reads list, day one, even before everyone has posted? Never done that before EVER. Had MANY day one knock down dragout tilts over refusing to give reads, both as town or wolf. A huge warning sign on Raskol is that he should be deep into WTF is Tim up to now? and he seems totally cool about it.
Argon is flat lying and I'm not sure what to make of that. I am town, but there is no way a n0 cop check on me comes back anything like miller so that part at the very least he made up out of thin air.
Yea, I can, and often will, flood the thread as wolf or town. I am not, and I am not going to be. This is less typical for me, but I have also done this as wolf or town.
Gun to head right now I probably would vote Raskol, but will not actually be voting until either everyone has voted or we are reasonably approaching EoD, whichever comes first.
So WTF are you up to Tim?
Timsup2nothin
04-21-2021, 06:42
So WTF are you up to Tim?
Just playin' some Mafia. I have a very strong anti-meta tilt, so every game I at least play a different style than my last game, and as often as I have the juice I play in some style I have never tried. I guess it is the old school forum software or maybe the nostalgia of being back on TheOrg but I feel like I'm up for a challenge.
For all my scoffing at them I have friends who are committed believers that day one reads made of tiny shadows of nuance and staff really work, so instead of my usual "just get through day one and work off the flips because flips are FACTS" stance I am joining them. Reading posts over and over looking for little cues and such.
Ibn-Khaldun
04-21-2021, 09:00
Vote: Borg
Cause I like to see the tie mechanic..
Vote: Borg
Cause I like to see the tie mechanic..
Do you suspect Borg? If the votes swing another way are you just going to follow an opposing bandwagon? I feel like this is a bad reason 12 hours out.
Ibn-Khaldun
04-21-2021, 10:48
Do you suspect Borg? If the votes swing another way are you just going to follow an opposing bandwagon? I feel like this is a bad reason 12 hours out.
Claiming a role on D1 is not good for the town.
If he is a regular townie and he claims a role like that he might clear mafia from suspicion as the game progresses. Bad for the town.
If he actually is a Cop like he claimed he just made himself a target for the mafia. Bad for the Town.
If he is mafia claiming to be a Cop and the town actually believes him then he could clear another mafia. Bad for the Town again.
I haven't played mafia with him before unlike some of you so perhaps this is what he does usually in games... :shrug:
Claiming a role on D1 is not good for the town.
If he is a regular townie and he claims a role like that he might clear mafia from suspicion as the game progresses. Bad for the town.
If he actually is a Cop like he claimed he just made himself a target for the mafia. Bad for the Town.
If he is mafia claiming to be a Cop and the town actually believes him then he could clear another mafia. Bad for the Town again.
I haven't played mafia with him before unlike some of you so perhaps this is what he does usually in games... :shrug:
Better reasons.
Though one could argue that point 2 is actually a motivator not to vote to lynch him. Let the mafia adjudicate.
BorgPicard
04-21-2021, 11:58
Okay this is the only honest thing that has been said about me this game so far. So far I joked about collecting three heads and circling back for Argon. That is a pretty typical joke for me. The Blues Brothers not quite quote about killing Csargo was also I thought pretty obviously mostly a joke.
The reads list, day one, even before everyone has posted? Never done that before EVER. Had MANY day one knock down dragout tilts over refusing to give reads, both as town or wolf. A huge warning sign on Raskol is that he should be deep into WTF is Tim up to now? and he seems totally cool about it.
Argon is flat lying and I'm not sure what to make of that. I am town, but there is no way a n0 cop check on me comes back anything like miller so that part at the very least he made up out of thin air.
Yea, I can, and often will, flood the thread as wolf or town. I am not, and I am not going to be. This is less typical for me, but I have also done this as wolf or town.
Gun to head right now I probably would vote Raskol, but will not actually be voting until either everyone has voted or we are reasonably approaching EoD, whichever comes first.
I was lying about being a "role" cop. That would just be crazy, but an even night alignment cop? Maybe that is what I am.
BorgPicard
04-21-2021, 12:03
Better reasons.
Though one could argue that point 2 is actually a motivator not to vote to lynch him. Let the mafia adjudicate.
I have set myself a meta so that even now that I am a cop mafia can't tell if I am lying or not. The only way they can tell is if I green check one of them and then I probably will be ignored. I have played with most of the people here so I feel like I can pull this off without disrupting town. Once I get a red check I will share it since getting one of the mafia is probably as good as it will get. Then all my green checks will be cleared when the mafia silences me.
Garden Gnome
04-21-2021, 13:28
I have set myself a meta so that even now that I am a cop mafia can't tell if I am lying or not. The only way they can tell is if I green check one of them and then I probably will be ignored. I have played with most of the people here so I feel like I can pull this off without disrupting town. Once I get a red check I will share it since getting one of the mafia is probably as good as it will get. Then all my green checks will be cleared when the mafia silences me.
Do you think that mafia would actually ignore you? Don't you think that you're not being NKed after getting so many green checks makes you look like scum? Your post comes across as scummy.
What's wrong with c4? Do you have a specific problem with how they're posting?
For D1 I think they're a solid tl so far for me.
Not a specific problem. They just feel too eager to call people towns and I don't exactly see the meta townread of hk as good (I hope that answers your question c4).
how is calling myself lazy wolfy? I definitely haven't been playing with any kind of alacrity or presence. I've been responding to things I think are interesting or neat, and ignoring things I don't particularly care about.
C4 is an easy town read to toss off, he's active, solving some people, and generally posting with the flow of things. None of which are townie on their own, but taken as a whole they're indicative of being more townie than not.
If he's a wolf he eventually needs to wolf read town, yeah? When that happens we'll be able to start solving him IF we need to.
Because I don't remember you being lazy as town ever. That's a stupid meta read, tho. In general excusing your lack of activity by laziness feels self-aware and potentially wolfy too.
Because I don't remember you being lazy as town ever. That's a stupid meta read, tho. In general excusing your lack of activity by laziness feels self-aware and potentially wolfy too.
Has your take changed since that comment?
Do you think that mafia would actually ignore you? Don't you think that you're not being NKed after getting so many green checks makes you look like scum? Your post comes across as scummy.
I assume your second question cuts to the heart of whether Borg would become a distraction and disruption for town...
Would you vote for Borg or not D1?
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 14:57
could you lay out why? i don't see anything wrong with their posts, other than that weird one, which is par for the course for la
cause I think he's lying
Has your take changed since that comment?
Tbh, the whole take is vaguely in null territory. A great comment or action from HK would make it minor a nuisance. Tbh, talking about Largon doing the same thing every game isn't moving game forward and I find it slightly off that HK uses it to push Borg. Also, his meta read on Tim - It's good but it's also deliberately keeping Tim in nulls.
But again, I don't think any of this is substantial enough to call HK scum. The Tim read actually got me slightly paranoid about Tim, who immediately posted about changing his style every game - and that's not a post, which makes man feel safer.
Overall, this feels like an old school d1 with surface interactions and lack of substantial reads.
BorgPicard
04-21-2021, 15:10
Tbh, the whole take is vaguely in null territory. A great comment or action from HK would make it minor a nuisance. Tbh, talking about Largon doing the same thing every game isn't moving game forward and I find it slightly off that HK uses it to push Borg. Also, his meta read on Tim - It's good but it's also deliberately keeping Tim in nulls.
But again, I don't think any of this is substantial enough to call HK scum. The Tim read actually got me slightly paranoid about Tim, who immediately posted about changing his style every game - and that's not a post, which makes man feel safer.
Overall, this feels like an old school d1 with surface interactions and lack of substantial reads.
I feel like with Tim that if he survived n1 and n2 then we should be worried about them, but I don't think that will be the case.
Tbh, the whole take is vaguely in null territory. A great comment or action from HK would make it minor a nuisance. Tbh, talking about Largon doing the same thing every game isn't moving game forward and I find it slightly off that HK uses it to push Borg. Also, his meta read on Tim - It's good but it's also deliberately keeping Tim in nulls.
But again, I don't think any of this is substantial enough to call HK scum. The Tim read actually got me slightly paranoid about Tim, who immediately posted about changing his style every game - and that's not a post, which makes man feel safer.
Overall, this feels like an old school d1 with surface interactions and lack of substantial reads.
Can't say whether it's old school or not. I'm still finding footing myself amid a group I'm mostly unfamiliar with.
I'm not sold on Tim and I do think his reply to what he's up to isn't 100% believable. It's devoid of connection to the game itself and rather a post about his own style. Arguments about that are not as productive as actual reads and substantial commenting. But he did answer my question! I guess Timsup2nothin!? (Honestly this whole day has been Tim trying to get us to say "updog")
All that said, I think I still like HK more than Rask and C4. Town leans on C4 befuddle me in particular. The guy's enforcing them and they feel like a trap to me. Either C4 is scum or a wolf tmi-ed him by giving him a free pass.
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Not a fan of a single hit and run post by Vote: Panda interested to hear more though.
We haven't heard from a couple others either...
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 16:20
Tbh, the whole take is vaguely in null territory. A great comment or action from HK would make it minor a nuisance. Tbh, talking about Largon doing the same thing every game isn't moving game forward and I find it slightly off that HK uses it to push Borg. Also, his meta read on Tim - It's good but it's also deliberately keeping Tim in nulls.
But again, I don't think any of this is substantial enough to call HK scum. The Tim read actually got me slightly paranoid about Tim, who immediately posted about changing his style every game - and that's not a post, which makes man feel safer.
Overall, this feels like an old school d1 with surface interactions and lack of substantial reads.
lord have mercy this post is bad
Vote: pzelda
Timsup2nothin
04-21-2021, 16:28
Do you think that mafia would actually ignore you? Don't you think that you're not being NKed after getting so many green checks makes you look like scum? Your post comes across as scummy.
The mafia would most likely include at least one person who has played with Argon. If he is town he is playing along his standard meta and mafia who have played with him may well be hesitant about getting baited into killing a vanilla townie that seems like a potential mischop. I have seen it go both ways.
Garden Gnome
04-21-2021, 16:30
I assume your second question cuts to the heart of whether Borg would become a distraction and disruption for town...
Would you vote for Borg or not D1?
Maybe, but I'd rather wait until D2.
Timsup2nothin
04-21-2021, 16:31
I feel like with Tim that if he survived n1 and n2 then we should be worried about them, but I don't think that will be the case.
Well, yeah, you marking me as a cop green check probably did not improve my survival odds.
CutePanda
04-21-2021, 16:34
Tim , LA , Laurentus, Vro and above all HK can confirm that J have obvious reasons for single hit and run. I have school and I got to study as well at home , so you won't see much of me on D1 . My activity rises as the game goes forward, and I can gurantee that I will be of some use later on.
Timsup2nothin
04-21-2021, 16:37
Can't say whether it's old school or not. I'm still finding footing myself amid a group I'm mostly unfamiliar with.
I'm not sold on Tim and I do think his reply to what he's up to isn't 100% believable. It's devoid of connection to the game itself and rather a post about his own style. Arguments about that are not as productive as actual reads and substantial commenting. But he did answer my question! I guess Timsup2nothin!? (Honestly this whole day has been Tim trying to get us to say "updog")
I am resisting an OMGUS reaction here.
You ask what I'm up to, I tell you.
Now you complain about how that wasn't as productive as actual reads...to the only person in the game that has given a comprehensive reads list. I'm trying out this "be a cooperative townie" thing instead of my more comfortable "hard nose FPSing pot stirring solo wolf hunter" style, and apparently you aren't seeing it. Is there really something missing on my part, are you just really quick to tunnel, or are you just a wolf?
Timsup2nothin
04-21-2021, 16:43
Not a fan of a single hit and run post by Vote: Panda interested to hear more though.
We haven't heard from a couple others either...
Would you mind giving us a comprehensive list of your takes on the players so far? It's starting to feel like you are just throwing suss in every direction to get a feel for what might stick rather than doing any real solving. Not saying that's a wolf indication since I am not familiar with you and I have definitely played that wild spear wolf hunter type as town myself, but set my mind at ease here please.
BorgPicard
04-21-2021, 16:49
Well, yeah, you marking me as a cop green check probably did not improve my survival odds.
If they attack you now they all but confirm my fake green check on you. That is why I think they will wait. Also you seem like a big doc target so think it will go on someone else as a doc dodge.
CutePanda
04-21-2021, 16:56
hk is town
What's your policy here , make a post saying "This guy is town" after he places some read sort of stuff? Posting D1 reads are wolfy , while I questioned zelda's alignment , I actually contradicted my words over the fact that D1 reads are wolfish.
How did the contradiction escape your eyes?
CutePanda
04-21-2021, 16:58
Tim can certainly confirm , can he not ?
CutePanda
04-21-2021, 17:00
Hollowkat confirmed mafia. Why else would he vote for the town cop. Tim can confirm to you in your mafia chat that he is vanilla town and that my n0 peek is 100% legit.
Forgot to quote this post
Montmorency
04-21-2021, 17:01
HOST TALLY 1-3
Rask (3): Csargo, Zelda, Winston
Borg (2): c4, Ibn-K
c4 (1): Borg
Winston (1): Rask
Panda (1): Lewwyn
Zelda (1): Hollow
Not Voting (8): Dolby, Tim, Gnome, Nanook, Laurentus, El-A, Vroendal, Panda
Movement
[Rask] Csargo >> Winston
[Hollow] Rask >> Borg >> Zelda
EOD 1
It is incredibly unlikely anyone will reach the postcap today.
Laurentus
El-ahrairah
Vroendal
In danger of replacement. If anyone has access to these players, please ping them.
CutePanda
04-21-2021, 17:11
Would you mind giving us a comprehensive list of your takes on the players so far? It's starting to feel like you are just throwing suss in every direction to get a feel for what might stick rather than doing any real solving. Not saying that's a wolf indication since I am not familiar with you and I have definitely played that wild spear wolf hunter type as town myself, but set my mind at ease here please.
I have experienced wolf who hardly gives anything , and asks everyone about everything. Floods the chat with questions , but stays a miser with answers.
CutePanda
04-21-2021, 17:14
vote:c4
Reason: Townreads me for a one liner contradictory post
c4e5g3d5
04-21-2021, 17:32
All that said, I think I still like HK more than Rask and C4. Town leans on C4 befuddle me in particular. The guy's enforcing them and they feel like a trap to me. Either C4 is scum or a wolf tmi-ed him by giving him a free pass.
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Or I'm actually towntelling and you're being obtuse.
c4e5g3d5
04-21-2021, 17:34
What's your policy here , make a post saying "This guy is town" after he places some read sort of stuff? Posting D1 reads are wolfy , while I questioned zelda's alignment , I actually contradicted my words over the fact that D1 reads are wolfish.
How did the contradiction escape your eyes?
What the fuck
c4e5g3d5
04-21-2021, 17:36
vote:c4
Reason: Townreads me for a one liner contradictory post
This whole... "reads don't exist on D1" thing you're doing...
It's dumb. I'm sorry but it's just dumb.
c4e5g3d5
04-21-2021, 17:38
Vote: pzelda
You look perfectly happy with this dead thread, despite being around and having actual thoughts. All the thoughts you do have just look like progress blunting.
Timsup2nothin
04-21-2021, 17:39
Speaking of day one reads... NANOOK why none from you?
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 17:41
Tim , LA , Laurentus, Vro and above all HK can confirm that J have obvious reasons for single hit and run. I have school and I got to study as well at home , so you won't see much of me on D1 . My activity rises as the game goes forward, and I can gurantee that I will be of some use later on.
I do not confirm this
Winston Hughes
04-21-2021, 17:44
unvote
I suppose I ought to start making an effort to read the thread and form opinions about stuff.
Being a civilised creature, however, first I need cocktails, dinner, dancing, and perhaps a little light petting to get me in the mood.
On the other hand, maybe I'll just smash a microwaveable doner kebab and four wicked-strength cheap lagers through my facehole while watching some shit on the telly.
Either way, I'll be back at some point before eod to attempt a degree of actual participation.
p.s. Anyone who reads me as anything other than straight null up to and including this point is either lying or wrong.
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 17:44
What's your policy here , make a post saying "This guy is town" after he places some read sort of stuff? Posting D1 reads are wolfy , while I questioned zelda's alignment , I actually contradicted my words over the fact that D1 reads are wolfish.
How did the contradiction escape your eyes?
Vote: CutePanda
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 17:45
unvote
I suppose I ought to start making an effort to read the thread and form opinions about stuff.
Being a civilised creature, however, first I need cocktails, dinner, dancing, and perhaps a little light petting to get me in the mood.
On the other hand, maybe I'll just smash a microwaveable doner kebab and four wicked-strength cheap lagers through my facehole while watching some shit on the telly.
Either way, I'll be back at some point before eod to attempt a degree of actual participation.
p.s. Anyone who reads me as anything other than straight null up to and including this point is either lying or wrong.
town
Winston Hughes
04-21-2021, 17:46
Vote: hollowkatt
Timsup2nothin
04-21-2021, 17:51
unvote
I suppose I ought to start making an effort to read the thread and form opinions about stuff.
Being a civilised creature, however, first I need cocktails, dinner, dancing, and perhaps a little light petting to get me in the mood.
On the other hand, maybe I'll just smash a microwaveable doner kebab and four wicked-strength cheap lagers through my facehole while watching some shit on the telly.
Either way, I'll be back at some point before eod to attempt a degree of actual participation.
p.s. Anyone who reads me as anything other than straight null up to and including this point is either lying or wrong.
I gave you a "lean town" as kind of a YOLO read because I was committed to providing a read "as best I could off what I had" on everyone. I certainly didn't lie. Are you saying I was wrong? But...that would mean...you're a wolf...
:sweatdrop:
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 17:52
Vote: hollowkatt
ily
Winston Hughes
04-21-2021, 17:54
Is that sweat or tears?
Either way... :barrel:
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 17:54
Is that sweat or tears?
Either way... :barrel:
the animation starts at the top of the head, I think it is sweat
Winston Hughes
04-21-2021, 17:56
ily
:quiet:
I like Lewwyn but that's probs not controversial
I kind of like this from Rask, because HK calling himself lazy indeed is wolfy. Let's wait and see.
Also, despite being fairly active and calling people towns, I can't find any reason to tr C4.
Winston and Gnome feel alright, maybe slightly mason-ish. ~;)
elaborate on the GG read
bolded is ???
Timsup2nothin
04-21-2021, 18:14
I like Lewwyn but that's probs not controversial
It might be a little.
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 18:17
would be perfectly happy chopping panda/pzelda/raskol today, Borg is meh but also I'm kinda eh so..
Claiming a role on D1 is not good for the town.
If he is a regular townie and he claims a role like that he might clear mafia from suspicion as the game progresses. Bad for the town.
If he actually is a Cop like he claimed he just made himself a target for the mafia. Bad for the Town.
If he is mafia claiming to be a Cop and the town actually believes him then he could clear another mafia. Bad for the Town again.
I haven't played mafia with him before unlike some of you so perhaps this is what he does usually in games... :shrug:
This feels pretty bad faith. It's been explained multiple times in thread that LA/Borgpicards role claim is in no way serious, and we just get this
lord have mercy this post is bad
Vote: pzelda
elaborate
vote:c4
Reason: Townreads me for a one liner contradictory post
this can be alright from somebody who I dont think has much maf experience?
I'll plop a dayshield on LA I guess
tbh don't have a real take on him but don't think that maf are in a panic about him having a few votes
Montmorency
04-21-2021, 18:29
HOST TALLY 1-4
Rask (2): Csargo, Zelda
c4 (2): Borg, Panda
Panda (2): Lewwyn, Hollow
Winston (1): Rask
Borg (1): Ibn-K
Zelda (1): c4
Hollow (1): Winston
Not Voting (7): Dolby, Tim, Gnome, Nanook, Laurentus, El-A, Vroendal
Movement
[Rask] Csargo >> Winston
[Hollow] Rask >> Borg >> Panda
[c4] Borg >> Zelda
[Winston] Rask >> Hollow
EOD 1
It is incredibly unlikely anyone will reach the postcap today.
Timsup2nothin
04-21-2021, 18:33
I'll plop a dayshield on LA I guess
tbh don't have a real take on him but don't think that maf are in a panic about him having a few votes
been thinking about how I would play with Argon in the pack...I think if he is wolf with you you just have to trust him to get clear, so I wouldn't be expecting any panic even if he is a wolf
BorgPicard
04-21-2021, 18:34
I'll plop a dayshield on LA I guess
tbh don't have a real take on him but don't think that maf are in a panic about him having a few votes
Since you said that I was a paragon of townieness I will town read you
Okay this is the only honest thing that has been said about me this game so far. So far I joked about collecting three heads and circling back for Argon. That is a pretty typical joke for me. The Blues Brothers not quite quote about killing Csargo was also I thought pretty obviously mostly a joke.
The reads list, day one, even before everyone has posted? Never done that before EVER. Had MANY day one knock down dragout tilts over refusing to give reads, both as town or wolf. A huge warning sign on Raskol is that he should be deep into WTF is Tim up to now? and he seems totally cool about it.
Argon is flat lying and I'm not sure what to make of that. I am town, but there is no way a n0 cop check on me comes back anything like miller so that part at the very least he made up out of thin air.
Yea, I can, and often will, flood the thread as wolf or town. I am not, and I am not going to be. This is less typical for me, but I have also done this as wolf or town.
Gun to head right now I probably would vote Raskol, but will not actually be voting until either everyone has voted or we are reasonably approaching EoD, whichever comes first.
:sweatdrop: I thought it was serious...
thought the reads list was abnormal, but figured hk would have pointed out it that was true.
Not a specific problem. They just feel too eager to call people towns and I don't exactly see the meta townread of hk as good (I hope that answers your question c4).
I don't really get the first part. I can kinda understand the second though, since the first part of that read confused me and I thought it was odd.
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 18:58
Tbh, the whole take is vaguely in null territory. A great comment or action from HK would make it minor a nuisance. Tbh, talking about Largon doing the same thing every game isn't moving game forward and I find it slightly off that HK uses it to push Borg. Also, his meta read on Tim - It's good but it's also deliberately keeping Tim in nulls.
But again, I don't think any of this is substantial enough to call HK scum. The Tim read actually got me slightly paranoid about Tim, who immediately posted about changing his style every game - and that's not a post, which makes man feel safer.
Overall, this feels like an old school d1 with surface interactions and lack of substantial reads.
lord have mercy this post is bad
Vote: pzelda
elaborate
It's all shade, no conclusion, and also wrong
hollowkatt
04-21-2021, 18:59
been thinking about how I would play with Argon in the pack...I think if he is wolf with you you just have to trust him to get clear, so I wouldn't be expecting any panic even if he is a wolf
probably the right thing is let him do whatever he's interested in doing and trust that he isn't going to spew you
Garden Gnome
04-21-2021, 19:01
Vote: hollowkatt
You voted hollowkatt because he called you "town"?
unvote
I suppose I ought to start making an effort to read the thread and form opinions about stuff.
Being a civilised creature, however, first I need cocktails, dinner, dancing, and perhaps a little light petting to get me in the mood.
On the other hand, maybe I'll just smash a microwaveable doner kebab and four wicked-strength cheap lagers through my facehole while watching some shit on the telly.
Either way, I'll be back at some point before eod to attempt a degree of actual participation.
p.s. Anyone who reads me as anything other than straight null up to and including this point is either lying or wrong.
< null cause :martass:
You voted hollowkatt because he called you "town"?
you should read the proceding 3 posts to that again I think
Winston Hughes
04-21-2021, 19:18
You voted hollowkatt because he called you "town"?
It's best to nip that kind of thing in the bud, I find.
Timsup2nothin
04-21-2021, 19:30
:sweatdrop: I thought it was serious...
thought the reads list was abnormal, but figured hk would have pointed out it that was true.
I mean, I'm always willing to lop off someone's head, but it is a quote from the Blues Brothers. I honestly didn't expect it to be taken seriously. You do seem a lot more actively engaged than I expect from town Csargo though.
Timsup2nothin
04-21-2021, 19:42
probably the right thing is let him do whatever he's interested in doing and trust that he isn't going to spew you
Yeah, if I ever rand wolf with Argon I think that would be the only way to play it. That's why I think Dolby's "no sign of wolves panicking, must be town" read is kinda flawed. That plus the whole "few votes on" seems kinda stretchy to begin with. Even if Argon is a wolf and the rest of the pack were inclined towards outing themselves on protective efforts, Argon has been talked about but doesn't seem to have picked up any real pressure. Dunno if this is t!Dolby shielding out of habit or w!Dolby dropping the paragon because he knows that's what we expect from t!Dolby. Seems forced maybe.
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