Capo di Tutti Capi III [Concluded]

[atheotes]

You were. That does not mean that you have not joined a mafia family since then.

Explain this one to me: You were the only one besides Beskar Diana and I who even knew that CDF was a doctor, and I had just found out the night prior.

Why the sudden, precise hit on the protected doctor, making it look like the protection failed due to Beskar dying? That's too much of a coincidence. Someone knew he was a high profile target, and it was one of us.

It's either you, me, or Diana. If you have a criminal or guilty result right now, that means it was you. If I were to consider it further, there's no reason why you couldn't simply be an informant for the mafia, promised a place in one of the families if you succeed. But let's stick to simple explanations.

The simplest ones are that you did it, I did it, or Diana did it. I was investigated by the dead FBI as having, and I quote, "no mafia ties". You're the next biggest suspect. Then, Diana.

:laugh4:

[gibsonsg91921]

I can say that attacking Proletariat was my idea - she had far underposted in this game compared to Capo II and we were looking for unprotected WOG-bait or scummy lurkers to kill because all of our hits were failing.

We worked with scottishranger on a few hits, knowing full well he was probably up to no good, but we needed a fourth man to kill.

KHAAN DID NOT KILL SCOTTY, this was my error. I forgot that I was in a different group for that one. I decided to get scotty because he wanted to make a new family and I wanted to cut ties with any mafia.

DJGINGIVITIS IS DON CUNNIO. Pre-game, DJGingivitis, GeneralHankerchief, and I planned on working together with the mafia because they were more fun. Unfortunately, when we got our roles this was botched as in the interest of full and fair disclosure, I got townie (incorruptible), DJGingivitis was a Don, and GH claimed to be a wiseguy (obviously GH lied). We decided that instead of just getting each other killed right away, it would be more fun to have a truce until day nine so we could all play some of this awesome game before we all died.

Unvote, Vote: DJGingivitis. Since then, DJGingivitis has been feeding me information regarding ATPG's alleged mafia empire, which is why Khaan and I tried to penetrate it early on, to no avail. Now it is clear that ATPG is pro-town, despite his scumminess earlier on, and I insist we all vote for DJGingivitis because he is Don Cunnio and it's time for him to peace out.

[scottishranger]

excellant... let the hate flow through you

[Askthepizzaguy]

Will I not have a guilty result thanks to the vig group you had me join? You're looking for a scape goat and frankly the case is weak. If the amount of failures your protection groups have experienced its clear as day that they are infiltrated. Who knows who said what and who they said it too.

Then you're accusing the dead Beskar of revealing to the Tataglia that CDF was a doctor.
Or, Diana.
Or me.

You'll never convince me that I did it, because I did not.
You'll never convince me that Beskar did it, because he would have died on the side of the mafia, on purpose, his only hope of winning is if his specific family won the game.
And if you're asking me to trust you over Diana.... :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

Who knows who said what? I can tell you: I didn't tell anyone. Who did you tell?

[GeneralHankerchief]

For the record, I confirm everything that gibsonsg91921 says, and I'm not lying or screwing with you guys this time, either.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote:DJgingivitis

That sounds conclusive to me...gibson said at the beginning that his red text prevented him from going mafia.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

For the record, I confirm everything that gibsonsg91921 says, and I'm not lying or screwing with you guys this time, either.

:stare: :stare:

[DisgruntledGoat]

And how do you know that Beskar would have revealed to the Tataglia family. There are 4 other families and its pretty clear they are working together more than working against each other. Its just a plausible that Beskar revealed to the Corleones or the Cunnio and they relayed that information. All sorts of things could have happened.

The long and the short of it, you had wise guy and you have me. A regular townie who has only performed 1 vig group successfully and the rest been doing protections. So what benefit do I have feeding the mafia info.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh my... the accusations are really flying today. Let's recap:

DJGingivitis is Don Cunnio, according to gibsonsg91921
DisgruntledGoat is probably working for the tataglia, or otherwise a leak, according to me.
Lord Winter and Crazed Rabbit are both mafia, according to Reenk Roink.

Other suspected Dons-

Beefy
Caius
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Ichigo
Pannonian

This really, really calls for double lynching. But I think we agreed, the mades, lucas, and so forth come before the Dons because the Dons shouldn't be able to kill presently.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Oh god NO! CR did this how many times now. In Capo I he pulled the same upset stunt at the end because of what GH did as part of my family, making it seem so unlikely Prole was the Donna

I respect CR too much not to fear him..

Keep the tie, but CR needs to die.

You were part of that family, Reenk. I don't think you have the right perspective. I didn't act angry then, I tried to act, well, crazy. And even three periods after I was killed and revealed as a made, Proletariat wasn't voted on. That's because of the cunning she showed in gaining the trust of the certain influential town members.

And look at what Reenk is doing now. He reveals Lord Winter as a 'confessed' mafioso but insists that I'm the one who has to die. Why in the world is that?



As for my guilty result; it came from a vigilante hit on Jolt. Scottishranger was part of the group (which is why the vig kill itself was so odd, and not a standard four guys with trenchcoats firing tommy guns). He was trying to recruit me and, I confess, I was thinking about joining the mafia. The others in the vig group appeared to be adamant pro-townies, and went their separate ways after the hit on Jolt. Scottish and I stayed in touch. But then he got vig-killed himself. I didn't know any other members of his family, and I suspect they may have thought I gave out scottish's name to the vig killers. I thought I was in danger from both his family and other townie vig groups who may have heard about my communications with scottish.

So I said 'screw it' to my plans for joining the mafia and decided to commit to the townie effort. I tried to join protection crews since then but I've been unsuccessful.

This isn't something that I'm making up or is undocumented; there's a record of this in my communications with certain known pro-town roles. And my proof can be checked easily; just one investigation to confirm I'm still guilty and not a criminal made.

CR

[DisgruntledGoat]

Unvote: Vote: DJGingivitus

Thats pretty conclusive on Gibsons part.

[Askthepizzaguy]

We could easily vig DJGingivitis.

Let's stop the KILLS on the townies and get the mafia scum doing the wetwork, and then deliver Don Cunnio to justice tonight.

[DisgruntledGoat]

How can we easily vig him? Are we sure he has lost his Luca? What is your aversion to lynching dons? THats twice now you have tried to prevent the town from lynching a don.

[Reenk Roink]

You were part of that family, Reenk. I don't think you have the right perspective. I didn't act angry then, I tried to act, well, crazy. And even three periods after I was killed and revealed as a made, Proletariat wasn't voted on. That's because of the cunning she showed in gaining the trust of the certain influential town members.

And look at what Reenk is doing now. He reveals Lord Winter as a 'confessed' mafioso but insists that I'm the one who has to die. Why in the world is that?

I want both of you to die because both of you have confessed to me. The only difference is that about 10 people knew about Lord Winter through BCC's, whereas you only confessed to me. :bow:

On the DJG thing, I confirm that early on, when I wanted to merge two groups containing both gibsons and DJG that gibsons said to worry about DJG (it's somewhere buried in the thread during the pever scandal).

Don't know about the Don thing, but keep focused on who can hurt you the most... Double lynch CR and LW.

[Askthepizzaguy]

How can we easily vig him? Are we sure he has lost his Luca? What is your aversion to lynching dons? THats twice now you have tried to prevent the town from lynching a don.

Right. Nothing to do with 4 dead Lucas.

Listen to Reenk Roink on this one... the townies that I am aware of have convinced me that we need to hit the Don's underlings, and then we hit the dons at night. Simple simple simple.

[DisgruntledGoat]

Right. Nothing to do with 4 dead Lucas.

I'm aware of two confirmed dead luca's GH and Disco. Who are the two others.

[Andres]

This game is getting chaotic.

So, we have the following accusations:

- CR: a Don
- Lord Winter: Made or Luca
- DJGingivitis: Don
- Digruntledgoat: scum (Made, Luca or affiliated Wiseguy)
- Beefy187 (Made, Don, Luca or affiliated Wiseguy)

And GH will probably confirm on his honor as a Luca that all of that is entirely correct :wall:

:dizzy2:

[Crazed Rabbit]

We could easily vig DJGingivitis.

Let's stop the KILLS on the townies and get the mafia scum doing the wetwork, and then deliver Don Cunnio to justice tonight.

Unless the Don has got a new Luca (or never lost one). Or if the Don is lucky. And orphaning dons gives us serial killers.

CR

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm aware of two confirmed dead luca's GH and Disco. Who are the two others.

Ironside is a confessed Luca, and Scottishranger is a known luca from the Seamus writeups.

That's 3 at the very least, 4 most likely.

[DisgruntledGoat]

This game is getting chaotic.

So, we have the following accusations:

- CR: a Don
- Lord Winter: Made or Luca
- DJGingivitis: Don
- Digruntledgoat: scum (Made, Luca or affiliated Wiseguy)
- Beefy187 (Made, Don, Luca or affiliated Wiseguy)

And GH will probably confirm on his honor as a Luca that all of that is entirely correct :wall:

:dizzy2:

I go from a mafia informant to Made, luca or affliated wiseguy. Whats your evidence for this blatant slander.

EDIT: I forgot about Scottish. Very well there are at least three dead Luca's. That doesn't mean a vig kill on DJG is automatically successful.

[Moros]

Unless the Don has got a new Luca (or never lost one). Or if the Don is lucky. And orphaning dons gives us serial killers.

CR

What does it matter if he or is made kills? As long as he is protected a don is less likely to die. it's as simple as that. With some luck perhaps even a don gets killed unkowingly by other mobsters even improving our chances. I think that working our way up is the better and most logical thing to do.

[Andres]

Unless the Don has got a new Luca (or never lost one). Or if the Don is lucky. And orphaning dons gives us serial killers.

CR

How do you explain the guilty result on you N1?

(Sorry if you already posted it in the thread, you'll surely forgive me in this 2.200+ posts monster :sweatdrop:)

[scottishranger]

I go from a mafia informant to Made, luca or affliated wiseguy. Whats your evidence for this blatant slander.

EDIT: I forgot about Scottish. Very well there are at least three dead Luca's. That doesn't mean a vig kill on DJG is automatically successful.

this is true. he could be lucky

[Moros]

I go from a mafia informant to Made, luca or affliated wiseguy. Whats your evidence for this blatant slander.

EDIT: I forgot about Scottish. Very well there are at least three dead Luca's. That doesn't mean a vig kill on DJG is automatically successful.
No but it is likely. Let's say we have 3.5* chances on 5 that if he's don he's not protected, which is 70%. Add in the chance that he is not a don, and the chances are very real that he dies. However that doesn't mean we will kill a don.
But personally I think it could be worth the shot. He can always tell us not to kill him and give reasons or proof of not being mafia.
Let him have his chance to defend himself if not we have a nice shot that we can kill him. And there's always a next lynch next round.

[Crazed Rabbit]

How do you explain the guilty result on you N1?

(Sorry if you already posted it in the thread, you'll surely forgive me in this 2.200+ posts monster :sweatdrop:)

Someone got a guilty result on me on night one? I don't think that's possible...

There were only two people killed on night 1; Quintus.JC by Shinseikhaan's gang, and The Stranger, killed by someone who hasn't killed again (from what I read in the night time write-ups) and definitely wasn't a mafioso.

I wasn't involved with either. So I don't see how the guilty result is possible (on night 1). I did nothing that night.

CR

[Askthepizzaguy]

Gentlemen, if DJG is Don Cunnio, he will have an innocent result and we can lynch him tomorrow easily or vig him tonight. I was the one arguing that we need to lynch the suspected Dons, I was talked out of it by some very good mafia players working on the side of the town, based on the fact that mades and so forth can kill, there is no guarantee that Don Cunnio can kill. In fact there's evidence he still has henchmen, he's not in the floundering families.

Lord Winter is mafia by all accounts, trustworthy ones might I add, from the investigatory result(s) to the actual insider sting operation by Reenk Roink. Crazed Rabbit could be getting a bad rap but I trust Reenk as a source and also CR's guilty result. Both are worthy.

DisgruntledGoat- I said what I have to say about him. I believe he is the traitor.

Beefy- possible Don. :juggle2:

Whatever we do, we have to prioritize and I'd like to see a tied vote in the next 4 hours or so that we have remaining.

[DisgruntledGoat]

ATPG I want you to answer my question. What evidence do you have to support your blatant lie that I am scum. You clearly ramped up the rhetoric regarding me, with nothing to support it what so ever. So why the change to claiming I'm a made, luca or affiliated wise guy and what supporting evidence do you have. Or is it exactly what I know it is, a lie and you are willing to say what ever you have to to get someone you want lynched lynched. You've lost all credibility in my eyes.

[TinCow]

Lynch Lord Winter. Anyone else who comes along for the ride is a bonus.

[GeneralHankerchief]

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

I sit back and can do nothing but giggle right now.

[Andres]

CR was guilty on N1.

The hit on Quintus.JC was by 'khaan, gibson, White_Eyes:D and either Scottishranger, ACIN or Dutch_guy.

'khaan's statement:


Started as a townie.

Reason? Well, to be quite honest, you basically nailed my original reasoning. However, given the preponderance of failed attempts, as well as the town's continued success, I've decided its better to hedge my bets on the town's side.

EDIT: Group always consisted of White_eyes and Gibsonsg91921. There have been a few others that we'd attempted to get as the fourth wheel, including Dutch_guy, A completely inoffensive name, and Scottishranger.

EDIT2: Its not taking too long, you keep sneaking posts in while I'm typing mine up. :stare:

The other kill that night was on The Stranger.




Description:

As he reached the steps of City Hall on his way to the Convention Center, Arach was unlucky enough to be the first to find The Stranger.. L’Etranger, bruised and cut, was obviously dead from the single gunshot wound placed between his open eyes, locked now in a fixed stare. The Stranger had been nailed with railroad spikes to the raised plinth that held Fatlington’s statue of George Washington, his hands folded as if in prayer and the back of his trenchcoat tacked up as though they formed the wings of an angel. Two other bodies were at his feet, spiked to the steps in a position that seemed as though their corpses were bowing to that of The Stranger’s. Brownish crimson tendrils of blood connected the ghastly tableau into one coordinated scene. It took Arach a deal of effort to control his stomach.

As he fought down the urge to vomit, Arach noted a small diary sitting on the steps just below the corpses. He read the words carefully written inside in a small, neat hand.

<Part 1

I waited calmly as The Stranger went to his door, fiddling with his keys. Brightly they shone in the darkness, how lusterless in comparison where The Stranger’s thoughts as he mumbled to himself. Calmly, I took to my feet and laid him low, rendering the fool unconscious, and tied him up, and dragged him from his home, to the place in which he, and others, would await their judgment.

Part 2

Go forth I did again that night, to find Charlie Frick, busy ordering a burger and fries, and I entered the dinner and sat down across from him. At first, he was perplexed, and began to ask many questions, but I assuaged his fears and soon we began to speak quite plainly to one another. For an hour and so did we talk, until I invited him to follow me home, and so he did with much a glint in his eye and a smile upon his face.

As we walked arm in arm to my car, I paused but a moment to remove a scrap of cloth from my handbag and proceeded to cover Charlie’s face with it. But for a moment he struggled, finally succumbing to the vapors of the cloth, and I did drag his body to the car with some effort, so heavy was he.

And off I drove again to the appointed place, whence his judgment would begin.

Part 3

And so the final piece was to be collected, and it was from his slumber that Helmut Frack awakened to see me at the foot of his bed. Fear welled in him as he gazed upon my masked visage, and so did he scream and begin to put up a fight, but only become entangled in his own sheets. Falling to the floor, Helmut let cowardice overcome him and he began to cry for mercy and god.

In that moment, I was overcome with pity, and nearly left him there. But my duty overcame my pity, and it was so that I grabbed him by the scruff of the neck and dragged him off, out into his hallway, through his parlor, and out his front door. Try as he might, he could not wrest himself from me and run to the safety of his home.

"Please, I beg of you! For the love of God, do not kill me! I beg forgiveness!"

At his words I could do naught but box him across the ears to silence him as I threw him into the back of my car, to drive him to the appointed place. His sobbing was the only sound to be heard as I drove into the night.

Part 4

I set about readying my captive’s judgment, waking them from their slumber. They were surprised to see each other, and remarked to one another that I, their captor was the last person they had seen. Before they could explore their captivity more, I made myself known to them from on high.

"Stranger, you promised death, chaos, and destruction, you spoke of harming the town as if it was a game. These minions of yours always cheered your words in the coffee house, deeming them “poetic” instead of blasphemous. You wished to set about events so that none could trust each other, and satiate their fears each day with spectacle. You all claim that which you shall not deliver, except unto yourselves. Before you are weapons of war, forged by man - it is with your own hand that you must now select one of those weapons, and kill those among you for the safety of the flock."

"He who has purged the others of life, shall be set free to live again, having earned their redemption. I shall watch from here, to insure that all goes as planned."

And so after a tense moment, those in the pit picked up the knives left for their use in the cargo hold, and attacked each other with much fervor. The fight lasted but for a few moments, until the screams of two men had died down, and the victor came into the light, awash with blood and eyes filled with shock and emptiness.

"And so you have won your redemption," I did say, "And so you will now understand what it means to be redeemed, and how lucky thou art - but many who are first now will be last, and many who are last now will be first."

A thunderous crack more, and my Mosin-Nagant M1930 settled as The Stranger fell to the deck, and then did I go and collect them from the interior of the ship.>

Fermanagh’s officers were able to quickly confirm the identities of the two victims who’d died, apparently at The Stranger’s own soon-to-be-dead hands. Both men were Fatlings of long tenure, though not members of the Committee, and were known associates of The Stranger in better times.



That sounds like a serial killer to me :inquisitive:

Unvote ; Vote : Crazed Rabbit

What is interesting is how would a serial killer be connected to a mafioso, namely Lord Winter?

There needs to be some explanation.

[Askthepizzaguy]

ATPG I want you to answer my question. What evidence do you have to support your blatant lie that I am scum. You clearly ramped up the rhetoric regarding me, with nothing to support it what so ever. So why the change to claiming I'm a made, luca or affiliated wise guy and what supporting evidence do you have. Or is it exactly what I know it is, a lie and you are willing to say what ever you have to to get someone you want lynched lynched. You've lost all credibility in my eyes.

I didn't charge you with being a Luca, that's Andres.

I don't care about having your credibility anymore. I don't believe Diana or Beskar betrayed CDF to the Tataglia, not for one moment.

The evidence is simple. Diana and Beskar both got the "protection insufficient" message from Seamus Fermanagh. One of you betrayed me. Beskar's dead, and between you and Diana.... You.

Just sit tight, I'm more interested in lord winter and Crazed Rabbit right now.

[atheotes]

this game is awesome :2thumbsup:

:furious3::furious3::furious3: @ Disco for getting my lynched...

[Crazed Rabbit]

Wait, I go from being a mafioso to a Don to a serial killer who's only killed once?

Come on, Andres. You better ask your source again about the n1 guilty result because they're wrong.

Your explanation is that you're wrong. This whole serial killer thing is complete BS! :wall:

What is with the town and leveling unending wild accusations against me. First Reenk says I 'confess' to be a mafioso, then Andres pops in and proclaims me a serial killer?

The explanation is simple Andres; I'm not a serial killer!

CR

[Askthepizzaguy]

TALLY
Lynch:

Crazed Rabbit: 5 (Reenk Roink, Diana Abnoba, Shinseikhaan, Andres, Crazed Rabbit)
DJGingivitis: 3 (gibsonsg91921, Sasaki Kojiro, DisgruntledGoat
Lord Winter: 3 (Moros, Tratorix, Tincow,
Shinseikhaan: 3 (woad&fangs, Ricera10, Lord Winter)
Sigurd: 1 (Kukrikhan)

abstain: DJGingivitis, Twilightblade




DIRECTOR:

Askthepizzaguy: 12 (Askthepizzaguy, spl1tpersonality, gibsonsg91921, Xehh II, Diana Abnoba, White_Eyes, slashandburn, El Diablo, Andres, Sigurd, Kukrikhan, Shinseikhaan)

Slashandburn: 9 (LittleGrizzly, Reenk Roink, woad&fangs, beefy187, twilightblade, Crazed Rabbit, Lord Winter, Moros, DisgruntledGoat

abstain: Ricera10Badly needs a full re-check.



CRAZED RABBIT IS NOT THE SERIAL KILLER WHO KILLED THESTRANGER. The "serial killer" in that instance is a pro-town vigilante who dropped from the game. I have a chatlog confession from him, but he's neither here nor there.

Crazed Rabbit is probably mafia though.

[Moros]

Common people lets get te the tie between CR & LW!

[Crazed Rabbit]

CRAZED RABBIT IS NOT THE SERIAL KILLER WHO KILLED THESTRANGER. The "serial killer" in that instance is a pro-town vigilante who dropped from the game. I have a chatlog confession from him, but he's neither here nor there.

Crazed Rabbit is probably mafia though.

Well then that makes the question of where Andres got his 'guilty result' on me for night one interesting, doesn't it?

CR

[woad&fangs]

I don't know who to believe:dizzy2:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Believe me.

atheotes was a Don.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@CR-

Is he sure it was from night one? I don't know.

I do know you have a guilty from just the other night. :shrug: that plus Reenk is all over you and Lord Winter... and I am doubly sure Lord Winter is mafia. Then we have you voting for yourself, presumably to ensure there will be no tied vote.

[Lord Winter]

Reenk I love how you left out the part where you betrayed a FBI detective to a supposed mafia member. If you were so sure that I'm scum why tell me that SlashandBurn is FBI and also give me his PM. Furthermore his PM shows a strong anti communist objective. I wonder why you could want an anti communist dead? More then that isn't adding up Reenk. Why would you make a false claim to another that you a claimed townie killed with me? That isn't even possible with your role. Also I would like to dirict you attention to the victory conditions for the FBI, if they barely need a town win for a victory. Now think about the CIA role that Pizza is claiming. We all know the reputation of the CIA with legality and civilian harm. If the FBI can still achive a clear victory with a town lose how much do you think the CIA cares about civillians?



Your Cover Role is:

Townie (incorruptible)

Victory Conditions

You achieve victory by voting to lynch suspicious individuals and/or participate personally in their removal until such time as: a) all of the Mafia Dons, original and created, have been killed and the remaining townies and unaligned Wiseguys outnumber the remaining Mafiosi OR until your character has died. Your personal survival, though it will add to the level of your victory, is secondary to the overall success of the town.

Town win with 41+% of original townie roles surviving = decisive victory.
Town win with 21-40% of original townie roles surviving = clear victory.
Town win with fewer than 20% of the original townie roles surviving = close victory.
Neither side wins = draw.
Town defeat with fewer than 10% of the orginal mafiosi or wiseguys surviving = close defeat.
Town defeat 11-25% of orginal mafiosi or wiseguys roles surviving = clear defeat.
Town defeat 26+% of orginal mafiosi or wiseguys roles surviving = decisive defeat.
-- Your personal survival moves you one category up on this scale.

Powers & Responsibilities

A. General:

1. Townies have no special role-related qualities at the outset of the game – you are the “salt of the earth” of Fatlington.

2.Red info.

3. Red info.

B. Day Actions:

1. You can select/vote as can all players.

C. Night Actions:

1. In combination with 3 other townies, you can form a vigilante group (4 required) and attempt to kill one other player. More than 4 townies can work in the same group, though this does not provide any other benefit aside from participation credit. If only 2 or 3 townies participate in a kill effort, that effort automatically fails. If only 1 townie attempts a kill, that effort fails and the townie has a 1 in 3 chance of dying in making the failed attempt.

2. After two such successful kills, you may elect to continue the game as a Wiseguy, or you may remain a Townie. You will be given this role-change opportunity only once. It is possible for a Wiseguy to progress to Rogue Detective status.

3. In combination with 2 other townies, you can form a protection group (3 required) and attempt to protect one other player. If no attack occurs, nothing happens. If the target is attacked your group will save her/him and receive credit for the save. More than 3 townies can work in the same group, though this does not provide any other benefit aside from participation credit. If only 2 townies participate in a save effort and the target is attacked, that effort automatically fails. If only 1 townie attempts a save and the target is attacked, that effort fails and the townie has a 1 in 3 chance of dying in making the failed attempt.

4. After two such successful saves, one of your group may be selected (randomly) to continue the game as a Doctor. If refused, the opportunity will be passed to another member of that group. You will be given this role-change opportunity only once.

5. If you: a) choose to continue in a protection group without becoming a doctor, b) have never participated in a killing, and c) you participate in a two additional saves, you will be offered the opportunity to become a Detective for the remainder of the Game. You will be given this role-change opportunity only once.

D. Investigations

1. If investigated by a Detective or a Made Gangster, it is most probable that you will be discovered as “innocent.”

2. Remember, however, that a significant minority (25%) of townspeople will register as “unclear” rather than innocent.

3. You will only register as “guilty” if you have participated in a killing, but will do so from that point forward until you have changed roles.


Role Changing

As noted above under night actions, it is possible for you to change roles. Once you change roles from Townie to Wiseguy, Doctor or Detective, however, you may not reverse the decision – you have made a permanent change. You may progress into other roles from there as appropriate to your new role. Victory conditions will be as for that new role.



Your Real Role is:

Counter-intelligence Agent, Federal Bureau of Investigations

Victory Conditions

You can achieve victory by voting to lynch suspicious individuals and/or participate personally in their removal until such time as: a) all of the Mafia Dons, original and created, have been killed and b) the remaining townies and unaligned Wiseguys outnumber the remaining Mafiosi. However, the real key to your success is to find and eliminate the three-person Communist infiltration team that is trying to conquer Fatlington from within as a springboard to a Communist takeover. Your personal survival is unimportant and the success of the townie side is secondary to this mission. See below:

Town win with 41+% of original townie roles surviving = close victory.
Town win with 21-40% of original townie roles surviving = close victory.
Town win with fewer than 20% of the original townie roles surviving = draw.
Neither side wins = draw.
Town defeat with fewer than 10% of the orginal mafiosi or wiseguys surviving = draw.
Town defeat 11-25% of orginal mafiosi or wiseguys roles surviving = close defeat.
Town defeat 26+% of orginal mafiosi or wiseguys roles surviving = clear defeat.
-Wiping out the Communist threat to Fatlington increases your victory results two places.
-Removing two of the three Communists increases your victory result one place.
-Removing only one Communist decreases your results by one place.
-If all of the Communists survive, your results are decreased by two places.
-If the Communists end up in control of Fatlington, a new category will be developed to describe the horrific nature of your defeat.

Powers & Responsibilities

A. General:

1. Your identity is hidden for your safety, as are the identities of the other detectives. Only your partner is aware of you, with both of you sharing a Townie (Incorruptible) cover. Incorruptibles start the game knowing the name of a similarly incorruptible partner. Your Red Text info is listed in your cover role.

2. You are also aware that the CIA may be putting an agent into Fatlington, probably masquerading as a communist. Director Hoover would strongly prefer that this CIA type NOT get the credit for stopping any of the communists. You are NOT authorized to work with this agent, who is operating illegally by operating within the USA while not under the aegis of the FBI.

3. You can liase with the FBI Special Agent for Fatlington if you wish, but they are hidden and do not know who you are. You’ll have to put a “recognition” word into the thread and hope he/she picks up on it. Your recognition word is Remus.

B. Day Actions:

1. You can select/vote as can all players.

C. Night Actions:

1. You have the capabilities noted for an incorruptible townie in your cover sheet.

2. If you choose NOT to work with a protection or vigilante group or exercise any “cover” role abilities, you may conduct a counter-intelligence investigation of two players instead.

3. Once a target has been identified as a “communist,” you and one other FBI agent can combine efforts to kidnap that person. If successful, they are removed from the game and taken to an FBI debriefing facility. Three days after they arrive at such a facility, you will have a small chance of learning the names of other cell members as a result of their interrogation. These results will be added to any other results you have generated.

D. Counter-intelligence Investigations:

1. If you are investigated, either by another detective or a made gangster, you will be found to be “innocent.”

2. When you are investigating someone, you will learn that they are: loyal or questionable.

3. Subsequent investigations may reveal whether a questionable person is an active communist.

4. Your initial investigations have a small chance of learning that player’s starting role as well as the basic information above. Subsequent investigations of the same person have a progressively greater and greater chance to reveal that player’s starting role, or eventually their current role.

5. FBI investigation results are more accurate, but slower, arriving on the 2nd morning following your investigation efforts.

Role Changing

As noted above under townie (incorruptible) night actions, it is possible for your cover role to change. Your real role cannot change, and your cover may not accept promotion to wiseguy status.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Also I would like to dirict you attention to the victory conditions for the FBI, if they barely need a town win for a victory. Now think about the CIA role that Pizza is claiming. We all know the reputation of the CIA with legality and civilian harm. If the FBI can still achive a clear victory with a town lose how much do you think the CIA cares about civillians?

Enough to take down every last one of you mafia and bring you to justice. :smoking:

That, while voluntarily forsaking my mission to take down the communists. I can't even touch them while I'm the Director. That's how much I hate the mafia.

[Crazed Rabbit]

@CR-

Is he sure it was from night one? I don't know.

Oh he seems quite sure it was:

How do you explain the guilty result on you N1?

CR was guilty on N1.

Now how would he get that 'info'?


I do know you have a guilty from just the other night. :shrug: that plus Reenk is all over you and Lord Winter... and I am doubly sure Lord Winter is mafia. Then we have you voting for yourself, presumably to ensure there will be no tied vote.


It's quite simply, as I've said multiple times :wall: , to see if I'm a mafioso. Simply do one investigation on me and you'll see I'm still guilty, not a criminal made. That should be easy enough for the town to accomplish and avoid lynching a pro-town crazed rabbit again in capo.

CR

[ricera10]

Unvote: ; Vote: DJGingivitis

Things are heating up... :smash:

[Beefy187]

vote: Lord Winter

[Lord Winter]

Enough to take down every last one of you mafia and bring you to justice. :smoking:

That, while voluntarily forsaking my mission to take down the communists. I can't even touch them while I'm the Director. That's how much I hate the mafia.

The point is Reenk's story is not adding up and should not be trusted blindly. Yes I played along, I was trying to get the name of bis wiseguy before I went to the town. Do you think there was reason I didn't ask him to kill with me?

[Lord Winter]

vote: Lord Winter

Says a suspected Don.

https://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9441/bandwaggon.gif

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hmm, I don't agree with the strategy of lynching wise guys/mades. Once we get the dons it's game over. That saves more lives in the long run.

[Sigurd]

I say we lynch on what has become obvious.

vote: Lord Winter

[gibsonsg91921]

Yeah, lynch Dons because it's the only sure way.

[pevergreen]

Kill all the people on the suspect list.

But make sure you get ATPG. Hes too high up. No one person should wield the entire vote of the town in CDTC. Proof is after death, not before it.

[naut]

And the scum come crawling out the woodwork.

[slashandburn]

Vote:Crazed Rabbitfor the tie.
Unselect;Select: slashandburnAttentionI will if elected director allow people to send in write-ups then decide among them and use that one. That way we can have funny write-ups and a director who's identity is already confirmed pro-town.

[Centurion1]

select: slashandburn

Spread the power brother (no offense to atpg of course, he has been obviously pro-town)

Vote: Reenk Roink, he still has nothing but his word to back him up.

[TinCow]

Ah, almost forgot about that.

Select: slashandburn

For those that question whether the anti-communist FBI agents are pro-town, please do note that at least 2 of the 3 communists appear to have been killed early in the game. That's already a minor victory for them, which means the only way they can lose is if they mafia win. The FBI will work towards a town victory because it's the best way to ensure their own victory.

[Proletariat]

I won't be on enough to really get caught up, but I'll get my vote in now. Take the sure bet scum, Vote: Lord Winter

Select: slashandburn the only 100% protownie I know of still alive.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Lynch:


Crazed Rabbit: 6 (Reenk Roink, Diana Abnoba, Shinseikhaan, Andres, Crazed Rabbit, slashandburn
Lord Winter: 6 (Moros, Tratorix, Tincow, Beefy187, Sigurd, Proletariat)
DJGingivitis: 4 (gibsonsg91921, Sasaki Kojiro, DisgruntledGoat, Ricera10
Shinseikhaan: 2 (woad&fangs, , Lord Winter)
Sigurd: 1 (Kukrikhan)

abstain: DJGingivitis, Twilightblade




DIRECTOR:

Slashandburn: 13 (LittleGrizzly, Reenk Roink, woad&fangs, beefy187, twilightblade, Crazed Rabbit, Lord Winter, Moros, DisgruntledGoat, slashandburn, Centurion1, TinCow, Proletariat

Askthepizzaguy: 11 (Askthepizzaguy, spl1tpersonality, gibsonsg91921, Xehh II, Diana Abnoba, White_Eyes, El Diablo, Andres, Sigurd, Kukrikhan, Shinseikhaan)


abstain: Ricera10

[Proletariat]

Ah, almost forgot about that.

Select: slashandburn

For those that question whether the anti-communist FBI agents are pro-town, please do note that at least 2 of the 3 communists appear to have been killed early in the game. That's already a minor victory for them, which means the only way they can lose is if they mafia win. The FBI will work towards a town victory because it's the best way to ensure their own victory.

Also whether we get rid of the commies or not just modifies the win/loss result. If the town loses but the commies are gotten rid of, the FBI agents still lose. The people who keep saying 'and don't trust the fbi lolol, they just need to kill commies and will take the town down to do it!!' are likely scum

[Moros]

People let's watch out with CR's vote on himself he might change it on the last instance and get away.

When is the deadline?

[Askthepizzaguy]

2 hours.

[a completely inoffensive name]

**** it, first day of school and I come back to see all hell has broken loose without me.
Select: ACIN
Vote: Moros

[scotchedpommes]

Select: slashandburn

[Joooray]

Man, a lot of things bouncing around. Well as much as love double lynching I will have to go with Vote : Lord Winter because I find the case against him a lot more compelling the against CR.

Also Select : ATPG, let'sgo for a tie there. :laugh4:

[ricera10]

Because I was asked really nicely, Deselect: , Select: ATPG

[Myrddraal]

Jooray has broken the tie. If you want CR to be lynched someone needs to vote for him.

Reenk seems to be a communist to me.

Didn't Moros get a criminal investigation result early on or is my memory failing me?

[Tratorix]

Unvote: Lord Winter Tie restored. Also, Select: ATPG

[a completely inoffensive name]

Jooray has broken the tie. If you want CR to be lynched someone needs to vote for him.

Reenk seems to be a communist to me.

Didn't Moros get a criminal investigation result early on or is my memory failing me?

Yes, Moros did get a criminal investigation.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Reenk seems to be a communist to me.


Hmm I could buy that. What did reenk say about "following his role to the letter unwillingly"? Townies don't have to betray the mafia which he said he didn't enjoy. Do communists have to?

[Myrddraal]

Also I was intrigued by the mentions of 'Iron Felix'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Dzerzhinsky#Iron_Felix

[Askthepizzaguy]

Lynch:

Lord Winter: 6 (Moros, Tincow, Beefy187, Sigurd, Proletariat, Joooray)

Crazed Rabbit: 6 (Reenk Roink, Diana Abnoba, Shinseikhaan, Andres, Crazed Rabbit, slashandburn)

DJGingivitis: 4 (gibsonsg91921, Sasaki Kojiro, DisgruntledGoat, Ricera10
Shinseikhaan: 2 (woad&fangs, Lord Winter)
Sigurd: 1 (Kukrikhan)
Moros: (ACIN)

abstain: DJGingivitis, Twilightblade, Tratorix


DIRECTOR:

Slashandburn: 14 (LittleGrizzly, Reenk Roink, woad&fangs, beefy187, twilightblade, Crazed Rabbit, Lord Winter, Moros, DisgruntledGoat, slashandburn, Centurion1, TinCow, proletariat, SSNeoperestroika)

Askthepizzaguy: 14 (Askthepizzaguy, spl1tpersonality, gibsonsg91921, Xehh II, Diana Abnoba, White_Eyes, El Diablo, Andres, Sigurd, Kukrikhan, Shinseikhaan, Joooray, Ricera10, Tratorix)

ACIN: ACIN





This tally is based on a previous tally, based on a previous tally, etc... basically all of them were mine. I would love a tally re-check from the top... which is several pages back. :sweatdrop:

[Crazed Rabbit]

Jooray has broken the tie. If you want CR to be lynched someone needs to vote for him.

Reenk seems to be a communist to me.

Didn't Moros get a criminal investigation result early on or is my memory failing me?

All I ask for is ONE MEASLY NIGHT and you can prove I'm not with a family, and avoid lynching a pro-town person.

Is it really that much to ask? That we don't rush off on a (*@&*($@ bandwagon instigated by some 'pro-town' person? It's...not...that...hard... :wall:

With just a tiny bit of actual thinking, the town can avoid lynching me, a pro-town supporter AGAIN.

:wall: :wall: :wall:

CR

[Chaotix]

Wow, this is really getting insane. The thread put on another page while I was catching up with the last 10 pages! I guess this is the real Capo.

Select: Slashandburn

I trust ATPG, but not enough to make him invincible again. Sorry.

Vote: DJGingivitis

For the... triple tie? If that tally up there is right, than voting for either CR or LW will be detrimental, so I'll avoid that.

[Myrddraal]

I didn't say I wanted you lynched. I was just keeping the town informed of the tally. :wink2:

[Crazed Rabbit]

I didn't say I wanted you lynched. I was just keeping the town informed of the tally. :wink2:

Could you perhaps tell them that double lynching everyone and anyone who's a target may not be the best idea?
:sweatdrop:
CR

[woad&fangs]

Unvote: Shinseikhaan; Vote: DJGinivitus

CR has a vote on himself so he can wiggle his way out of the lynch. Plus, if he is in fact working with Lord Winter, he can't kill without his partner. I'd rather see Lord Winter and DJG as double lynch targets.

[Moros]

he can't kill without his partner.
:inquisitive: why's that? :book:

[Beskar]

If you really want to examine Beskar and his "knowledge" look at how he changed his mind as soon as I put up the thing about Lord Winter working with me to infiltrate.

I changed my mind? I said I had sources of him working with the Mafia and you confirmed it. Also, "trolling" different people is just stupid. As post-game, you will see I am correct.

I like how you even admitted to bumping me off over PM and you been threatening me all game.

:shrug:

Who to believe? Some-one working for the town, protecting top-priority pro-towns, who been saying who Mafia and other scum (such as Communist and SK's) and been right on the mark, or some one who has Mafia links, suspected communist, who actively worked against the town behind the scenes and tried to discredit the information I been providing.

[Craterus]

Did my autopsy come back yet?

[woad&fangs]

:inquisitive: why's that? :book:

Mafiosi attack in groups of two. Considering how hard the families have been getting hammered, I doubt they have a replacement wiseguy lined up to take over.

[White_eyes:D]

Vote:DJGingivitis To quote TinCow..."Too much scum, not enough lynchs:thumbsdown:"

[Tratorix]

Vote: Lord Winter to preseve the tie.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Time crunch on my end(more about that later).

Please, two separate folks make tallies so that we can have two points of comparison, it will be much slowed if we have to wait for me to tally from the start.

Thanks.

[White_eyes:D]

Unvote:DJGingivitis miss one vote...and it comes crashing down:wall:

[KukriKhan]

Ok, I got confirmation in private and a post from ATPG in public.

Unvote : Sigurd; Vote : Beefy187

And AggonyDuck needs to talk.

Ugh, great timing.

unvote: Sigurd

vote: Beefy187

[KukriKhan]

Now to catch up on 10 pages.

[Tratorix]

Unvote: Lord Winter

[Lord Winter]

Unvote: 'Khan
Vote: DJGingvitis

[Crazed Rabbit]

unvote:, Vote: DJGinivitus

I'm not going to die because the town listened to allegations from a mafioso secondhand from a possible communist and someone thinks I'm a serial killer, which even ATPG quickly debunked. Much better for the town if a don is lynched than me. (Funny thing; Reenk first started trying to get me lynched after I PM'd him about fighting the communists in Fatlingon)

All I ask is a simple investigation, which will confirm I'm not a member of any family and, as I've been saying all along, am actually protown. That simple action will save you the time of foolishly lynching me or vigilante killing me.

I am trying to help the town here. There's an easy way to ascertain that I'm not working with any family. It's so much smarter than wasting time and resources to kill a pro town player.

CR

[White_eyes:D]

Vote:Lord Winter Looks like double lynch is the best we can go for here:wall:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Lynch:

DJGingivitis: 8 (gibsonsg91921, Sasaki Kojiro, DisgruntledGoat, Ricera10, Chaotix, woad&fangs, Lord Winter, Crazed Rabbit)

Lord Winter: 7 (Moros, Tincow, Beefy187, Sigurd, Proletariat, Joooray, white_Eyes)

Crazed Rabbit: 5 (Reenk Roink, Diana Abnoba, Shinseikhaan, Andres, slashandburn)


Beefy187- 1 (Kukrikhan)

Moros: 1 (ACIN)

abstain: DJGingivitis, Twilightblade


DIRECTOR:

Slashandburn: 15 (LittleGrizzly, Reenk Roink, woad&fangs, beefy187, twilightblade, Crazed Rabbit, Lord Winter, Moros, DisgruntledGoat, slashandburn, Centurion1, TinCow, proletariat, SSNeoperestroika, Chaotix

Askthepizzaguy: 14 (Askthepizzaguy, spl1tpersonality, gibsonsg91921, Xehh II, Diana Abnoba, White_Eyes, El Diablo, Andres, Sigurd, Kukrikhan, Shinseikhaan, Joooray, Ricera10, Tratorix)

ACIN: ACIN

[Splitpersonality]

Vote: Lord Winter

[scotchedpommes]

Deadline's passed, has it not? Last vote cast in time was Lord Winter's. [#2336]

[White_eyes:D]

Up to Seamus....but last time GH tried the same thing and it was up to Reenk:bounce:

[Reenk Roink]

Up to Seamus....but last time GH tried the same thing and it was up to Reenk:bounce:

No, there was no vote switching then. Both LW and CR have escaped... :help: Who's bright idea was it to have DJG be a close third again? :wall: At least if it was a two man race we'd have gotten one of them.

This also lends less credence to DJG being guilty, as given the Mafia are working together it is unlikely that a Don would go like this. However, that being said maybe he was a sacrifice.

The only loophole we might have is people who voted for DJG editing their votes to hopefully not get them to count.

Right now the official tally is:

DJGingivitis: 7 (gibsonsg91921, Sasaki Kojiro, DisgruntledGoat, Ricera10, Chaotix, woad&fangs, Lord Winter)
Lord Winter: 6 (Moros, Tincow, Beefy187, Sigurd, Proletariat, Joooray)
Crazed Rabbit: 6 (Reenk Roink, Diana Abnoba, Shinseikhaan, Andres, slashandburn, Crazed Rabbit)

The good thing to come out of this is that both LW and CR basically have another strike against them (as if getting caught with their pants down wasn't enough)

Also Tratorix unvoted Lord Winter with less than 4 minutes... :laugh4: This will be a splendid day for my first vig kill! :2thumbsup:

[Moros]

blast, you gotta be kidding!

[Myrddraal]

"Oh blast!" exclaimed the criminal Moros wearing an inner grin.

[Moros]

Tratorix, why: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2323609&postcount=2335?

saving a partner?

[Moros]

"Oh blast!" exclaimed the criminal Moros wearing an inner grin.
Sure I'm a mobster protecting people every night. :laugh4:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

"Oh blast!" exclaimed the criminal Moros wearing an inner grin.

Ahahahha, my favorite quote so far :laugh4:

[Myrddraal]

Sure I'm a mobster protecting people every night. :laugh4:

Have you? Too much evidence to keep track of... :sweatdrop: I assume you have a pizza voucher.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sure I'm a mobster protecting people every night. :laugh4:

That's not really very far fetched.

[pevergreen]

Sure I'm a mobster protecting people every night. :laugh4:

Hello Luca. ~:wave:

[DisgruntledGoat]

Have you? Too much evidence to keep track of... :sweatdrop: I assume you have a pizza voucher.




Greetings, gentlemen. I now have four for the group, with ironside's inclusion. I don't have an immediate target for tonight, but I'd accept suggestions. I was considering Moros, due to his criminal result. However, there are other criminals and guilty players we can consider. I'll have the final choice back to you fellows soon, but in the meantime please feel free to suggest.

He doesn't

[Moros]

Have you? Too much evidence to keep track of... :sweatdrop: I assume you have a pizza voucher.

I have many vouchers, of which one is pizza.

[Askthepizzaguy]

As of right now, nobody has vouchers... :furious3:

[Moros]

He doesn't

that's a nice choice for a quote, one from a very outdated post. Not that I care, as I bet pizza will vouch for me again. :yes:

[DisgruntledGoat]

that's a nice choice for a quote, one from a very outdated post. Not that I care, as I bet pizza will vouch for me again. :yes:

Its the most recent info I have on you. So, by all means prove it wrong.

[Moros]

Its the most recent info I have on you. So, by all means prove it wrong.
:book:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2321271&postcount=1842

[Tratorix]

Tratorix, why: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2323609&postcount=2335?

saving a partner?

Screwed up the vote totals. :shame: I'm honestly amazed this is the first round this has happened.

[White_eyes:D]

I think the blame falls on CR and Lord Winter for this....:inquisitive:

Triple Lynchs are bad, period..:no:

*Ducks to avoid the blame for it*:hide:

[Lord Winter]

The good thing to come out of this is that both LW and CR basically have another strike against them (as if getting caught with their pants down wasn't enough)

Also Tratorix unvoted Lord Winter with less than 4 minutes... :laugh4: This will be a splendid day for my first vig kill! :2thumbsup:

A townie has a duty to the town to make sure he doesn't get lynched using any methods possible. There's also the fact that DJG is a don, but don't let that get in the way of a good accusation. :smash:.

[a completely inoffensive name]

In order for the town to survive we need this quadruple lynch guys.

[KukriKhan]

ReenkRoink defends Lord Winter (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2321846&postcount=1981) in his 1981 post, and further on pages 68 & 69. Somehow, NOW Lord Winter is guilty as hell, and RR is to be trusted, cuz, heck... he said so.

LOLWUT?

More "trust me" and shouting. Great.

From a guy who had to bow out from the game as Director for scheduling reasons. Who now posts more often. Strangely.

I'm old, so my nose isn't as accurate as in the old days, but I smell a rat, folks.

I only hope it's not too late for the town to caution: take RR's input with a kiloton of salt.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

"The Kilkenny Cats"

There were once two cats of Kilkenny.
Each thought there was one cat too many;
So they fought and they fit,
And they scratched and they bit,
Till, excepting their nails,
And the tips of their tails,
Instead of two cats, there weren't any.

-- traditional


Evening Meeting, Day Nine


The committee of vigilance was full of bickering and accusation, but in the end, the democratic process yielded the name of another criminal that needed to be put to justice. DJGingivitis was not even there to hear his name being called out, for he had bolted from the scene long before the final tally was announced. The people of Fatlington searched high and low for the missing suspect, but to no avail. Indeed, was busy sipping coffee and reading a newspaper on a rooftop cafe in downtown Fatlington, far away from the prying eyes of the crowd. DJGingivitis was far too clever to simply go down like a sucker, and if he was going to live his life as a fugitive, he might as well do it in style. He checked his wristwatch and noted that this was about the time he would be killed, if he hadn't had the presence of mind to take cover. He chuckled to himself, but it was merely for show. In reality, the supposed time of his own death made a cold shiver run down his back, and his hands became clammy. As long as he could avoid the Director, he should be fine...

But then he saw her... a creature of such beauty he could scarcely imagine. A woman of impeccable style and taste, and a look of danger about her face which made DJGingivitis's heart flutter. If he was nervous before, he was now simply in awe. She wore a black hem dress, a modified bandolier around her left leg with several 7.62x25mm Tokarev magazines, and a leg holster with what appeared to be a C-96 Bolo. She wore a black headband, black shades, and her lips were blood red. She had a look of cold, calculating murder... and seductive charm that would drive any man crazy for her affection. She could probably make a man do just about anything for her. She walked over to DJGingivitis, took a drag on her cigarrette, and asked if she might join him, as all the other seats in the cafe were taken. DJGingivitis sputtered out something along the lines of "sure... the seat is welcome. Uh, I mean, you're welcome. I mean, please, go right ahead". And so the woman in the black hem dress slid herself down into the chair and crossed her legs. She spoke in a delightful eastern european accent that DJGingivitis couldn't quite place.

Dark-haired woman: "I understand you have big problem. It seems the Director is after you. What are you going to do about him?"

DJGingivitis: "Askthepizzaguy is a nobody with an overinflated sense of self-importance. He's being set up for a big fall... mark my words, someone is going down in flames very shortly."

The woman in black laughed at this, and replied; "Ah, such confidence. I like that. But maybe you don't understand... he is already on his way here. I would offer you my services as protection... but I don't think you could afford me."

DJGingivitis: I'll take my chances... but thanks for the offer. Say, perhaps after we finish with these coffees you'd like to come back to my place... I happen to be a gentleman who knows how to treat a lady.

She shook her head and laughed again. "Something around here is certainly overinflated." Then she walked away.

DJGingivitis was disappointed to see her go, and found that he had too much on his mind to go back to reading the news; his hands were now shaking. It must have been all the caffeine. But then he noticed several people looking up into the sky, and heard commotion all around him. Many of the patrons were picking up their items and leaving quickly. DJGingivitis was filled with dread, and couldn't resist the urge to look up and behind him, especially as the shadow creeped across his table. Something was hurtling off of the rooftop several floors above DJGingivitis, and it was heading straight toward him. DJGingivitis quickly stood up and fumbled for his weapon, only to feel the blunt force of a heel smashing him in the face, knocking him across the table and causing him to drop the gun. The Director had arrived, swinging down from the above rooftop, and released himself from his rappelling gear. For some reason, he was also wearing thick black gloves. DJGingivitis scrambled for his weapon, aimed it at the Director, and fired.

The Director opened his umbrella like a shield, and the bullets were easily deflected. This one was obviously meant for keeping more than just raindrops off of one's body. Frustrated, DJGingivitis dropped his gun went for the next best thing... a long combat knife that he kept strapped around his leg for just such an occasion. Pizzaguy smiled and closed the umbrella, and then pushed another button, releasing a sword from the umbrella tip. DJGingivitis's menacing grin turned into an annoyed grimace. <<Well that's just perfect>> he thought, but he advanced on Pizzaguy just the same.

Pizzaguy kicked a table out of his way and swung the sword, but DJGingivitis grabbed one of the deck chairs and used it to deflect the blow. The chair shattered, and DJGingivitis decided that it was time for plan B. He started moving backward, knocking the tables and chairs out of his way, and moved over near the edge of the rooftop, where there were several nearby power cables just within reach, connected to a transformer. He daringly hopped up onto the edge of the building, and invited the Director to follow. Askthepizzaguy soon joined him, and as they teetered on the edge, they tested one another's skill with a blade, each attempting to kill the other or knock him to his death. DJGingivitis moved closer and closer to the power cables, and just as a lethal swing of the 'brella sword was aimed at his head, DJGingivitis rolled out of the way and jumped across several cafe tables to safety.

The Director's blade sliced right through the suspended power line, and the exposed metal cable dropped dangerously onto the cafe patio. DJGingivitis expected the Director to be dead, but as he turned, he saw that only the umbrella itself had caught fire, and the Director was unharmed. This might have been due to the gloves. He dropped the flaming umbrella before it melted them, and jumped down off of the ledge. DJGingivitis saw his chance. The director had no weapon... no pistol, no amazingly unfair umbrella which could apparently do everything, and even better... it did not appear as though he was wearing any body armor. Perhaps he could finish him off once and for all. DJGingivitis wielded his combat knife and charged the Director at full speed.

Askthepizzaguy grabbed the exposed power cable with both hands, and swung it at the metal blade of his opponent. The resulting shock blasted the knife right out of his hands, and knocked DJGingivitis forward toward the edge of the roof, stunned. As he turned around to face his opponent, Askthepizzaguy stabbed him clean through the chest with the sharp, exposed metal cable.

"POWER!!!!!!" The insane director roared with glee. Electricity crackled, pulsing through DJGingivitis like a continuous bolt of lightning. He convulsed in the throes of death; his hair caught fire and his skin began to burn. This only caused the Director to laugh hysterically. "...UNLIMITED POWERRRR!!!!!!"

After several long moments of watching his victim writhe in pain, the Director withdraw the metal cable from DJGingivitis's chest and delivered a swift kick to the side of his head, sending the flaming corpse down to the street far below. The street cleaners would be none too happy when they saw the resulting mess, but those are the breaks. At least while Askthepizzaguy was handling the lynches, they would have job security!

Fatlington was indeed a magical land of peace and love.



OOC

Due to a visit to my mother's in Florida (and the concomittant family commitments and internet limitations), Capo will be on a break. After 3 weeks of hard play, please use this time to clear your heads a bit....and do a little scheming. Thanks for your patience with me.

Night Orders will be due for Night 9 at 2100 Eastern, 9/4/9.



Lynch:

1st DJGingivitis: 8 (gibsonsg91921, Sasaki Kojiro, DisgruntledGoat, Ricera10, Chaotix, woad&fangs, Lord Winter, Crazed Rabbit)

2nd Lord Winter: 6 (Moros, Tincow, Beefy187, Sigurd, Proletariat, Joooray)

3rd Crazed Rabbit: 5 (Reenk Roink, Diana Abnoba, Shinseikhaan, Andres, slashandburn)

4th/5th Beefy187: 1 (Kukrikhan)

4th/5th Moros: 1 (a completely inoffensive name)


Selection:

Slashandburn: 15 (LittleGrizzly, Reenk Roink, woad&fangs, beefy187, twilightblade, Crazed Rabbit, Lord Winter, Moros, DisgruntledGoat, slashandburn, Centurion1, TinCow, proletariat, SSNeoperestroika, Chaotix

Askthepizzaguy: 14 (Askthepizzaguy, spl1tpersonality, gibsonsg91921, Xehh II, Diana Abnoba, White_Eyes, El Diablo, Andres, Sigurd, Kukrikhan, Shinseikhaan, Joooray, Ricera10, Tratorix)

a completely inoffensive name: 1 (a completely inoffensive name)

[Reenk Roink]

ReenkRoink defends Lord Winter (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2321846&postcount=1981) in his 1981 post, and further on pages 68 & 69. Somehow, NOW Lord Winter is guilty as hell, and RR is to be trusted, cuz, heck... he said so.

LOLWUT?

More "trust me" and shouting. Great.

From a guy who had to bow out from the game as Director for scheduling reasons. Who now posts more often. Strangely.

I'm old, so my nose isn't as accurate as in the old days, but I smell a rat, folks.

I only hope it's not too late for the town to caution: take RR's input with a kiloton of salt.

Oh come on Kukri... I don't even need to explain myself for the LW thing. It's obvious I was trying to gain his trust. Ask well, anyone I BCC'd about LW if you don't believe me.

And FYI I was gone over much of last weekend which corresponded to a Director selection. :oops: Checks out there too. I was never "bowing out of the game" just bowing out of the spot to take a little trip without leaving Seamus hanging on writeups.

[Splitpersonality]

I love you ATPG <3

[a completely inoffensive name]

Seamus! How am I supposed to waste time after school if there is no Capo di Tutti Capi going on?

Abbreviations of the f-bomb is a no no around these parts - Sigurd

[White_eyes:D]

I enjoyed that...:bounce:

Next Friday is going to be awhile...:juggle2:

But a break is good for now....:clown:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I love you ATPG <3

The force is strong with you... a powerful Split you will become.

[KukriKhan]

Oh come on Kukri... I don't even need to explain myself for the LW thing. It's obvious I was trying to gain his trust. Ask well, anyone I BCC'd about LW if you don't believe me.

And FYI I was gone over much of last weekend which corresponded to a Director selection. :oops: Checks out there too. I was never "bowing out of the game" just bowing out of the spot to take a little trip without leaving Seamus hanging on writeups.

'Course. No prob. I apologize AGAIN.

silly me.

Somebody wake me when it's time to play again.

[Lord Winter]

Now I'm going to have to read 10 pages a day with school. :sweatdrop:

Take all the time you need Seamus. You're a great host.

[Diana Abnoba]

I think that we all could use a break. Seamus have fun with the family. Til next friday then. :bow:

BTW great write up pizza. :2thumbsup:

[Askthepizzaguy]

:balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: Intermission. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHOBw6XwqRo) :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2:


See you folks in a week! Be nice, be good, be safe, don't touch any of the umbrellas while I'm gone. And word to the wise, don't push any of the buttons on the dash of my jaguar. Bad things happen.

[Twilightblade]

Excellent, a whole week to plan for my next show

on the other hand I might forget to send it in:sweatdrop:

see ya all in a week:2thumbsup:

[TinCow]

I hate to do this, but the new time limit means that regretfully my role in Capo 3 has come to an end. As I noted prior to this game starting (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2307502&postcount=155), I am leaving the country on September 3rd and will not be back until September 18th. I may have internet access while I am gone, but it will be sporatic and brief at best, certainly not enough to keep up with a game of this size.

Hopefully Seamus will be able to find a replacement player for me.
:bow:

[Andres]

Enjoy your well deserved vacation, TinCow :2thumbsup:

[Beskar]

Pizza lied to me with false promises. He was supposed to put me in the Write-up as well. :sad:

[Askthepizzaguy]

*nudge/bump*

I know we're on break but let's do a little planning, those of you who are townies. I don't want to let the time go to waste. Those of you who are available for night actions, find your partners. If you're working with me, send me a message please so I don't have to hunt you down.

[Centurion1]

No changes to my orders, correct?

[Double A]

Well just to let you all know (as I'm sure you're all wondering "Why isn't Double A spamming the thread?") I've had school since Tuesday, and only about an hour to do what I wanted to.

And I wanted to play Prince of Persia.

So yeah... well hopefully next week I'll know what's going on and I'll actually do my Capo duties. Or whatever you want to call them.

[Beskar]

To TinCow/Seamus - I can replace TinCow, if you don't mind a dead player joining back in again for the time he is away and TinCow can leave me a bunch of instructions/rules which I will follow. I can play "myself" differently within a game, for example, in Cold War Crisis, I swapped to another role who wasn't allies with my former allies, and I didn't metagame in the sense in seeking alliances with them, but instead, played my new role as a new role.

[Crazed Rabbit]

:inquisitive:

I don't think that would quite work out.

CR

[Captain Blackadder]

Is it too late to put my name down for subbing. My internet was down when the sign ups were on so I missed out on signing up.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh my, you have impeccable timing, Captain Blackadder. We do indeed need a player to replace TinCow. And having standbys of course is lovely under any circumstances.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Just a reminder that the game starts up again the 4th in case people forgot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7V-H6ISJ0

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

To TinCow/Seamus - I can replace TinCow, if you don't mind a dead player joining back in again for the time he is away and TinCow can leave me a bunch of instructions/rules which I will follow. I can play "myself" differently within a game, for example, in Cold War Crisis, I swapped to another role who wasn't allies with my former allies, and I didn't metagame in the sense in seeking alliances with them, but instead, played my new role as a new role.

Yes.........:inquisitive: You did that quite well. Although I am not so sure you perhaps did not use former info against us. Ahh well, we are on the same side once again I guess.


If beskar might get back in then put me down to, I feel like I did not get much of a chance in this game :tongue: :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

[Beskar]

Just a reminder that the game starts up again the 4th in case people forgot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7V-H6ISJ0

Sounds like they adopted German accents and signing in Arabic.

[ULC]

Bit of a bump, but, had a nice...err...vacation, for the past week. Either way, I am not caught up, and am now convinced Reenk Roink is some form of a Don due to night 4, and his most recent behavior.

Post Thumbs-Up-:Reenk Roink, if you agree with me so we can get the bandwagon going strong tomorrow.

[pevergreen]

Thumbs-up-:YLC

[ULC]

Thumbs-up-:YLC

Glad you agree with me, BUT....

Your doing it wrong

[pevergreen]

Glad you agree with me, BUT....

Your doing it wrong

http://skrie.danoli3.com/no_U.jpg

Reenk for President!

[ULC]

http://skrie.danoli3.com/no_U.jpg

Reenk for President!

NO THOU!

https://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n133/Virado/hahaThouPWNED.jpg

[Beskar]

Reenk Roink is actually a communist, not a Don. So yes, ultimately he wants everyone dead, but that's another matter. However, he had deluded townies and a couple of deluded Mafia working for him, which keep protecting him/voting him as director, etc.

[ULC]

Reenk Roink is actually a communist, not a Don. So yes, ultimately he wants everyone dead, but that's another matter. However, he had deluded townies and a couple of deluded Mafia working for him, which keep protecting him/voting him as director, etc.

Nyet! I'm actually betting he is a Don of "sorts" - and thus the head of the Communist Brigade. His actions and behavior match up with this, and it appears that the Night 4 write up indicates that he was protected by more then the Director's bodyguard.

[Beskar]

I can agree with that, my friend.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Gosh, dang it!

Now I do have some time to play. But I am already privy to A****s' cunning plan to take over Fatlington so I can't fill in.

[scotchedpommes]

Zounds.

I feel it would be my duty to implore you to do so, regardless.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Everyone is already aware of Andres' cunning plan to take over Fatlington. Come join us anyway.

[pevergreen]

Poor misunderstood Reenk.

He is telling the truth. :yes:

[Double A]

Whooo one more day!

[Tratorix]

Everyone is already aware of Andres' cunning plan to take over Fatlington. Come join us anyway.

Can his plan truly be all that cunning if everyone already knows about it? :inquisitive:

[ULC]

Can his plan truly be all that cunning if everyone already knows about it? :inquisitive:

That's why it is so cunning, since it's deceptive as well. We know of it, but because we know of it, we think we are prepared for it.

:yes::yes:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Can his plan truly be all that cunning if everyone already knows about it? :inquisitive:

That's the most cunning part of his plan. By making everyone aware of it, he believes that it has a higher chance of success. Take Sasaki for example. Everyone knows he wanted to go mafia earlier in the game. He probably still has that goal. But the genius of the plan is that it is old news, and no one cares.

Just let the town know what you're doing, and they might allow it to happen, I guess. :laugh4:



EDIT: Dang you YLC, get out of my brain.

[a completely inoffensive name]

After a short break and school in full swing I just want this game to move quicker.

[Sigurd]

Can his plan truly be all that cunning if everyone already knows about it? :inquisitive:
Andres is not Cunning anymore.

[pevergreen]

Wasn't it you that got rid of that title?

AndresTheCunningakaAndrestheNOTSOCunning anymore?

[Andres]

Can his plan truly be all that cunning if everyone already knows about it? :inquisitive:

Ah, but the cunning part of the plan is that you all think that you know about the cunning plan, but in fact, there is no plan!

The cunningness of the plan lies in its' non-existence!


Did that make sense?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Is it possible your plan is SO cunning that you're the only one who is not aware of it? :sweatdrop:

[Andres]

Is it possible your plan is SO cunning that you're the only one who is not aware of it? :sweatdrop:

Hmmm...

Apparently, I'm cunning and senile :shame:

Who are you btw? Why am I posting here? What's the meaning of life?

[scottishranger]

Who is John Galt?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Sicker than a dog, what a way to fly. I'll take night nine orders through 8AM tomorrow, then write it up sometime thereafter. Thanks for all the patience.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Summary of Events, Night Nine


Andres had just exited the bar at the Hotel Abbatoir when he noticed a blast of flame a few stories up on a building in the distance….just about exactly from the location of his new and hastily-rented apartment. He paused for a moment, and then a black glossy-leather clad arm stretched around him and gently steered him to a new path into Seaside Park. As he could plainly see the glint of a throwing knife in the figure’s other hand and the haft of a pole-sword angling forward over the man’s shoulder, he did not make any sudden moves and went quietly, at least for now.

“Andres, Andres, Andres, do you not see? Can you not follow the pattern?
Ah well, no matter the reason…you are to be my audience this night.”

They walked briskly through Seaside Park, then quietly covered the mile from the park to the wharf district in a little over 20 minutes. Andres glanced around, looking for opportunities to escape, but saw none that wouldn’t have earned him a blade before he could get far enough to make a difference.

They entered a disused warehouse half a block off the canal. Gently prodded by the ashanderei, Andres found himself in the middle of the warehouse floor, its old wooden beams and boards thoroughly soaked and standing puddles everywhere. The dim light coming through the skylights above was enough to reveal 5 huge glass containers hanging from the beams above the wet floor. Andres couldn’t see what was inside in the dim light, but had a suspicion that they would be gold in color.

"If you look carefully, you will see the path to the door…"

The black-clad stranger then stepped through the doorway himself and in an almost impossibly fast whirl of steel, sent five kunai spinning into the darkened warehouse as Andres ducked low. Each blade severed the rope suspending one of the glass bottles which fell and shattered, scattering their powder on the wet floor. The resultant flame blast from the mixture was just as intense as Andres had remembered…but there was some sort of a path. Andres didn’t hesitate, but pushed himself through the opening in the swirling flame, following the path as it wound to the large loading door street-side. Though debris fell on him and the flames seared his exposed skin, Andres suffered nothing harsher than a sunburn while wending his way through the flames to the street.

Arriving at the door, Andres beheld a line of cars – all covered in what appeared to be a powdery gold paint – and wanted no part of it. He stepped to the side, intending to avoid the cars and head along the side of the burning warehouse to the cross street. Three flashes of silver whipped in front of his eyes, the kunai sparking off the pavement in front of him in a perfect line with the path he had intended to take. Gulping, Andres reversed himself and hopped off the loading platform, beginning his walk between the cars.

As he came near each car, the dark stranger flung bottles of water onto the vehicle, each vehicle flaming in succession as the water sprayed onto the golden powder in the “paint” that had been applied. Andres walk became a run, then a sprint as he strove to get away from the heat blasts, each one painful to his lightly singed skin. He went full-bore for more than a quarter mile before stopping – in a well-lit and busy area.
Andres made his way home reasonably quickly from there. As he’d suspected, it HAD been his apartment that had been roasted. The engine crew that had arrived to put out the flames were finishing their task as Andres stood there, looking up at the burnt windows of his rooms. A motorcycle idled into the street a few feet behind him.

"Well Andres tonight's show is over, but there is always tomorrow if you like."

With a laugh, the black-clad stranger goosed the throttle of his Triumph and quickly zipped away into the night. Andres headed back to the bar.


It had been decided that Pannonian would commit suicide by “jumping” from the roof of Mercy Hospital – one of only two structures in all of Fatlington, that exceeded 20 stories in height.

The plan had started well enough. One man stepped out in front of Pannonian with a leveled shotgun and Pannonian had leapt to the side only to run into the tip of his second assailant’s strategically placed – and drug laced – umbrella. Pannonian had collapsed and the rest had been a simple matter of transport.

Using a hospital gurney, the two assailants – conveniently masked – had rolled him into the elevator and up to the 28th floor. From there, they’d had to carry him to the roof. Nobody was quite sure why the top two floors of Mercy hadn’t been completed, just that you had to wander around a silly maze of half-constructed walls, up one stairwell, and up one ladder to access the roof. Nevertheless, Pannonian made the trip. He was then given the opportunity to prove he could fly while not possessing either wings or consciousness.

Then the laws of chance intervened. The collar of his trench coat caught on a protruding metal corner and, rather than simply tearing away as he fell, tore in a long rolling strip that ended up functioned as some kind of rope bringing Pannonian almost to a stop at around 3 floors down. The wind whipped him sideways, tearing the “rope” and renewing his fall, but had carried him far enough sideways to land on and collapse an awning over one of the patient “viewing” balconies on the 20th floor. The collapse of the awning absorbed almost all of the momentum he’d picked up after falling the 60-odd feet to the awning. Orderlies quickly rushed to Pannonian’s aid while two men quietly made their way off the roof of the hospital.


Diana Abnoba wasn’t going to trust to luck anymore – she’d assumed that she’d used hers up a few nights back. Trips to and from the committee meetings – and anywhere else for that matter, were accomplished in her new, and pretty well armored, Ford. This time, however, she’d been stopped by a police officer.

“But I WASN”T speeding,” [I]said Diana. “It’s posted 35 and I was doing 30!”

And she had been. This was not sufficient enough, however, to prevent her being stopped by a cop who’d been paid $50 to stop her as a joke.

“Ma’am, again, license and registration plea….”

The officer stopped mid-word, his eye’s bulging and opened wide with shock. He fell forward onto Diana’s lap – she’d had to open the door as the armored windows did not roll down – causing her to yelp in surprise. She looked up just in time to take the second pair of .28 Beretta slugs through her left eye, dying even more quickly than the cop who’d taken the first pair of slugs to his medulla – conveniently exposed as he bent to talk to Diana – a second before.

The killer let the gun fall to the ground, removed a violin bow from his pocket and placed the bow on Diana’s body, and then walked away from the scene.


DisgruntledGoat had been working on his paranoia steadily as events unfolded in Fatlington. He now wore armor – quite a lot of it – and was always armed. He ate his meal in a private room at the restaurant, with his gun ready to “greet” anyone but the proprietor who entered. He’d even hired a couple of private security types to go first through doorways and to start his car for him.

What got him was simple volume of fire. As he left the restaurant, one guard leading the way while the other started the car, 5 different shooters opened up with their Thompsons from varying ranges. While the shooters weren’t strictly “religious” types – their aim was pretty solid – they certainly did not believe in 3-4 shot bursts. All 5 drum magazines were unloaded in seconds with shots hammering the guard to the ground and shattering both his legs, shots hammering the doors and windows of the bistro, and shots slamming into Goat’s armor and pinning him to the door frame. The closest shooter had slammed at least half of his rounds into Goat’s armor from less than 15 feet.

The armor had worked, but no armor made could have warded off that many repeated impacts that close together. Bleeding from several wounds in the arms and legs, as well as from numerous internal injuries caused by the repeated impact of so many rounds, DisgruntledGoat bled to death before help could arrive.


Sasaki Kojiro was at a bit of a loss. Somehow a stop at the Abbatoir bar didn’t feel right anymore, and the death of the counterman at his favorite coffee shop had closed that establishment too. He decided to head to his apartment and have a nightcap there.

He had less than a block to go when the man turned the corner. Hat pulled low over his eyes and collar up, it would have been tough to identify him under any circumstances. It was even harder to try to identify him as he was also firing a .45 ACP from each hand as he ran at Sasaki. Sasaki jumped to the side, putting a car between himself and the heavy pistol rounds. Both pistols clicked onto empty chambers.

“This is only the first wave!” Screamed the shooter as he kept running past Sasaki and went around the corner into the darkness. “The FIRST!”

Sasaki sat there only for a moment. He then stood up from between the two bullet-battered cars and walked carefully towards his apartment building door. He was particularly wary. One thing was for certain in the mind of any resident of any seaside town. Waves just keep coming.


Sigurd was ready for an attack, but like so many before him he wasn’t expecting it to come in the form of a 6’ tall rabbit wielding a double-barreled shotgun. The bunny had leveled and fired on him before he though to take any evasive action.

Others, however, HAD reacted in time. Between Sigurd and the rabbit, a pair of large steel cellar doors had opened up, revealing the access to the storeroom below….and intercepting both of the shotgun’s heavy slugs. Firepower coming out of the nearby windows quickly convinced the rabbit to make his escape.

Sigurd’s second would-be assassin had been frustrated by a trio of vans pulling up between him and Sigurd. The second shooter’s first blast had been intercepted by the armored side of the van and ricochets had nearly come right back at their firer. This second gunman also faded into the darkness.


Later that night, Moros sat drinking a last whiskey before heading home. It tasted sour.

“That was awful, Hank,” said Moros, making a face. “What did you put in there?”

“Nothing,” said Hank, “Just the first of a new bottle.”

Hank sniffed the bottle, surprised at the slightly sour aroma.

“Something IS bad with this one,” he said. “I’ll pitch this one out and tomorrow’s is on me.”

Moros smiled back, nodded, and then left the bar for home.

Meanwhile, the man dressed as a Fatlington Police Officer, badge #5, who had been sitting in the far corner of the taproom, pulled his hat even lower over his eyes and then made his way out of the bar as well. The odds of a person being immune to that powerful soporific were about 1 in every 50 million people. Some people are just a bit luckier than others. The fake officer shook his head, frustrated, as he made his way out into the darkness.


Morning Session, Day Ten


“…So that’s how things went last night,” finished Fermanagh.

“We’ve got two more post-mortem deep searches to report: Rhyfelwyr and Warmaster Horus.”

“Horus was just an innocent townie caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. Rhyfelwyr is a lot harder to figure. He did, apparently, have a criminal background and was probably a wiseguy. However, our sources indicate he was working to protect some of the other members on the committee.”

“I’d say we’d obviously done the wrong thing here if I hadn’t come across some other unusual evidence. Rhyfelwyr was found to be in possession of 8 different false passports, a microfilm camera, union organizing materials for 6 different trade unions and a rather cryptic thank you note, laminated, which had been signed by someone named ‘Lavrenti.’ Obviously, we’re looking into that further.”

“Good luck with your deliberations.”

As Commissioner Fermanagh left the room, the new Director began discussing procedures for the upcoming lynch vote. Another day had dawned.



OOC

Voting will conclude at 1400 Monday 7 September Eastern (1800 GMT). Sorry for the slow turn around, but I am still sicker than a puppy and need my sleep.



The Cost of Life in Fatlington:

Attacked: Beefy187 (n1, n6), DJGingivtis (n2), GSC (n2), Beskar (n3), Double A (n3), Lord Winter (n3, n5), Andres (n4, n9), Diana Abnoba (n4), Reenk Roink (n4), Iskander3.1 (n5), Proletariat (n5, n5, n7, n7), TinCow (n6), Shinseikhaan (n7), Centurion1 (n8), Sasaki Kojiro (n8, n9), Moros (n9), Pannonian (n9), Sigurd (n9)

Killed: Quintus.JC (n1), The Stranger (n1), Death is Yonder (n2), pevergreen (n2), Yaropolk (n2), Myrddraal (n3), Jolt (n4), Craterus (n5), johnhughthom (n5), Leet Erickson (n5), Psychonaut (n5), Iskander3.1 (n6), Khazaar (n6), Kommodus (n6), scottishranger (n6), Aggonyduck (n8), Beskar (n8), Cultured Drizzt Fan (n8), glyphz (n8), shlin28 (n8), Diana Abnoba (n9), DisgruntledGoat (n9)

Lynched: Factionheir (d2), CountArach (d3), GeneralHankerchief (d3), discovery1 (d4), atheotes (d5), A Very Super Market (d6), Kagemusha (d6), Rhyfelwher (d7), Ironside (d8), DJGingivtis (d9),

Wogged: Nole4694 (n5), Truepraetorian (n5), Dutch_guy (n6), Warmaster Horus (n7)

[TinCow]

I am unsure whether I have been replaced as a player. If I have not, I do currently have internet access but do not have time to read the whole thread. I have asked someone I trust to provide me with advice on who I should vote for during the day and what actions I should do at night. If I have not been replaced, I will log a vote sometime tomorrow based on whatever that person advises me.

[Myrddraal]

That looks like two kills (which would have been successful if not for luck) performed by single individuals. One was definitely a mafia kill (signature), one was unclear.

Perhaps we have a lone don killing?

[Askthepizzaguy]

FoS: Greyblades

He's active on these forums and I've nudged him twice to play the game, all I get are excuses. He should have been WOGGED a looooong time ago.

Veronica Trouble Toluso and Cowhead418....

Veronica is a new member and is under invisible mode. Highly unusual for someone with two posts. It seems to me this player may have been advised to go invisible and say nothing. Cowhead on the other hand is not invisible, and hasn't been active since the 18th of August. :inquisitive: I understand he's played mafia before and therefore I don't put it past him to be contacting his partners via quicktopic or email, avoiding the site entirely. There may be roles which Seamus designed to be immune to the WOG... :shrug:

That being said, I find it unlikely that Seamus would give special, preferential treatment to any given role. I'm just puzzled beyond belief why these players are still listed as "alive" and we haven't had a WOG since the 7th round. Pizza no like; bad medicine. If these players are mafia and win the game with a total lurker strategy, and are immune to the WOG... Ugh. Just Ugh. I register my extreme disapproval now.


______________

That depressing business aside, I know which player claimed to do one of those lone night kills. I believe with almost total certainty that they are not mafia. Note the lack of a calling card. That player is one of ours.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

:hide:

Looks like we have till monday. Should avoid a large bandwagon.

:hide:

[a completely inoffensive name]

Sucks about your gf pizzaguy.

[Moros]

Gah, spoiling whiskey, how dare they!

Also apparantly someone really wants Sasaki dead. How come?
edit: anyone has a list with all the living players?

[Twilightblade]

I don't have long so

Vote:abstain

oh and to whoever spoilt that wiskey, shame on you

[Myrddraal]

The Sasaki hit makes me think of another one man show. This is the first wave, and someone seems to be planning to attack Sasaki over and over.

If it is a townie/lone wise guy playing these games, I would urge them not to. If your target is known the mafia can use support your attempt and get an easy kill.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd prefer if they stepped forward immediately so we don't waste precious time and thought attempting to solve the mystery. Privately if necessary, I don't care... someone needs to know who they are and what they are doing and why.

If the nature of this is not known, I will assume it is malignant, not benign, and I'll recommend the tumor is removed.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

:hide:

Vote:Beefy

Don by virtue of elimination? shlin dead and andres cleared by investigation?

edit: do we know that shlin wasn't a don?

:hide:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Shlin probably wasn't a Don, because I am not so lucky that I could convince a Don to attack all by himself and die in the process. It's a nice thought, but... I doubt it. Beefy's status should be clarified today.

[Diana Abnoba]

Man, wait all week to find out I'm dead. That sucks! You mafia :daisy: .

[Reenk Roink]

I attacked Sasaki because I had nothing to do and he is 95% either already mafia or trying to be.

Vote: Lord Winter - self explanatory :yes:

Once Lord Winter, Crazed Rabbit, and Sasaki Kojiro are lynched, I will make public more information about others who might be Mafia. Right now I don't want to dilute the waters when we have 2 confessed and one nearly confessed. :bow:

[Beefy187]

I'm quite happy to support Reenk

Vote: Lord Winter

[DisgruntledGoat]

I'm quite happy to support Reenk

Vote: Lord Winter

You're quite happy to support a communist to cover up the fact that you're a Don eh?

Nice going ATPG, off a townie without even giving him a chance to prove his innocence but leave a much more suspected mafia member (Lord Winter) alive. I see where you are taking this town and it ain't pretty.

[Double A]

Didn't Reenk say last round that LW was a hero and shouldn't be lynched?

[Chaotix]

No, LW was one of those in the mafia family that got exposed by Reenk. Along with CR.

Vote: Crazed Rabbit

For the tie.

[Centurion1]

I am tired of these stupid ties. We all kill ourselves trying to get a tie and we end up losing like a townie because someone has some scrap of evidence.


Vote: Reenk Roink

[Crazed Rabbit]

I attacked Sasaki because I had nothing to do and he is 95% either already mafia or trying to be.

Vote: Lord Winter - self explanatory :yes:

Once Lord Winter, Crazed Rabbit, and Sasaki Kojiro are lynched, I will make public more information about others who might be Mafia. Right now I don't want to dilute the waters when we have 2 confessed and one nearly confessed. :bow:

You know, I don't think it's a coincidence that you started trying to get me lynched after I PM'd you looking for information to hunt down communists.

That's right, many rounds ago Reenk voted for me and tried to get me lynched because I sent him a PM sharing some of my thoughts on hunting communists. That PM was very similar to a PM I sent to an FBI Detective, but you don't see them saying I need to be lynched.

So I think it's pretty likely Reenk is a communist.

vote:Reenk Roink

CR

[Jolt]

Thus it appears Reenk Roink is not as innocent, as I had rightfully claimed. Still thinking your the great 'paragon of innocence'?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Small request- please keep the votes on any given candidate limited until we get investigation results back.

[TinCow]

Vote: Lord Winter

Based on the recommendation of my chosen advisor. Since he's also pretty much an admitted mafioso, I can't see how this could be a bad choice.

[Lord Winter]

With all the evidence against Reenk how can we trust him about anything?

[Tratorix]

With all the evidence against Reenk how can we trust him about anything?

Would you mind repeating some of that evidence? It's been a week and I have the memory of a goldfish.

[Centurion1]

Well Reenk is a suspected communist. And for some reason people just implicitly turst him. What i would like to know is, WHY???? What has he really done for the town besides throwing people to the jaws of justice. Perhpas he is playing us all?

[Beefy187]

You're quite happy to support a communist to cover up the fact that you're a Don eh?

Nice going ATPG, off a townie without even giving him a chance to prove his innocence but leave a much more suspected mafia member (Lord Winter) alive. I see where you are taking this town and it ain't pretty.

I should get cleared tonight.

And I'm quite happy to support a communist as long as we are lynching an mafia.
What I worry more is that there's a townie who just keeps abstaining in this late stage of the game.

[Myrddraal]

Maybe there is no CIA. Maybe there's two groups of communists killing each other; the dissenters and the KGB. Maybe neither group is pro-town or pro-mafia.

We should focus on the mafia.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Can I ask where the accusation that Reenk is a communist is coming from? I obviously have a keen interest in that. :laugh4: In the meanwhile, the communists are NOT a priority for the town, the mafia is. I'll deal with the commies.

And Myrddraal- nyope! I know for certain there is a CIA. :beam:

[Centurion1]

I just don;t like how Reenk is throwing around accusations. why should I believe him, where is his proof. Should i just trust that he is doing the right thing, i think not....

[Double A]

Maybe there is no CIA. Maybe there's two groups of communists killing each other; the dissenters and the KGB. Maybe neither group is pro-town or pro-mafia.

We should focus on the mafia.

Seamus said after the 3 night period a G-man died a few nights ago.

[johnhughthom]

Reenk seems to have been accused of being CIA a few times, haven't seen any evidence myself. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

[Double A]

I don't think he has any investigation roles though, and the commies seem to function as townies, but the CIA are like the FBI

[johnhughthom]

Reenk seems to have been accused of being CIA a few times, haven't seen any evidence myself. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I meant communist by the way, I know who's CIA.

[Lord Winter]

Would you mind repeating some of that evidence? It's been a week and I have the memory of a goldfish.

Handing over an FBI agent to someone who he believed was scum (even though it was false). Along with general contradictions in his story.

[Chaotix]

Then again, are we supposed to lynch a 'suspected' (by you) communist, or an admitted mafia, Lord Winter?

:juggle2:

[a completely inoffensive name]

Vote: Moros

[Lord Winter]

Then again, are we supposed to lynch a 'suspected' (by you) communist, or an admitted mafia, Lord Winter?

:juggle2:

Don't see the admitted part anywhere.

[Chaotix]

:inquisitive:

Reenk's quoted PMs beg to differ, unless you were implying they were fake.

[Andres]

Vote : Lord Winter

[DisgruntledGoat]

:inquisitive:

Reenk's quoted PMs beg to differ, unless you were implying they were fake.

I haven't seen a single Pm from Reenk that shows Lord Winter is scum. But you guys are so quick to jump on the lynch train Reenk has you believing anything at this point.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Say, the round is almost over and I've seen no results back.

Please mister Seamus, have mercy on us who rely on investigation results, and extend the round for at least 24 hours after we get the results, please.

[Lord Winter]

Vote: Reenk

[scotchedpommes]

Vote: Lord Winter

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I will give the extension. Just now starting to feel human again and did not get results out. Will do so over the next few hours.

Day Session will now conclude at 1500 Eastern, Tuesday 9/8/9 (1900 gmt).

[Askthepizzaguy]

Investigations by different sources reveal that Crazed Rabbit had a guilty result, and then later had a criminal result. That means he wasn't a wiseguy who got a kill, turned guilty. That means he's probably a made gangster or better, and just wasn't killing last night, which makes sense given the lack of double eagle kills.

Vote: Crazed Rabbit

He's not a harmless little bunny, he's a killer.

[White_eyes:D]

Vote:CR Let's make sure he doesn't bounce his way out of this one:smash:

[Moros]

He was possibly part of ptgroup tonight so that could explain why he wasn't killing and thus registered as criminal this night.

Well I guess I'll just trust pizza his record talks for himself at the moment. Hope it continues to.

Vote: Crazed Rabbit

[Askthepizzaguy]

Now, correct me if I am wrong: If you're an unaffiliated wise who registers as criminal to start with, and then you do a vigilante kill for the town's sake, you could have a guilty result. That result should never go away.

If you're a wiseguy or better, became a full fledged mafia, and you killed someone, that night you would register as guilty. But any night you were not killing, you'd register as "criminal", not guilty. Thus, your guilty result is only valid on the night of your kill. Your "guilty" result goes away.

That's the inconsistency, the telltale sign, is it not? Please, correct me if I have been misinformed and I will withdraw my vote.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Also, a clarification y'all might find interesting:

seems you can avoid being WOGged if you're not completely inactive. Hint hint night actions, probably. That being said, we probably have some woggers coming up. Whoever survives is on the very top of my scum list.

:mellow:

[Double A]

vote: CR

Evidence stands

[Splitpersonality]

Vote: CR

Because the glorious pizza leader makes a compelling case.

[Tratorix]

Vote:CR.

[ULC]

Aren't we in heaven Tratorix? :laugh4:

Vote: CR

Shush, we hunting wabbits.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Investigations by different sources reveal that Crazed Rabbit had a guilty result, and then later had a criminal result. That means he wasn't a wiseguy who got a kill, turned guilty. That means he's probably a made gangster or better, and just wasn't killing last night, which makes sense given the lack of double eagle kills.


Whoa whoa whoa. Let's hold off bandwagoning me for a bit here, huh? There's already enough votes to lynch me.

Now something must be wrong with that result. I PM'd Seamus, and I'd appreciate it if you could hold off piling on the bandwagon further until I got a reply.

CR

[Double A]

:shame:

unvote

[ULC]

Whoa whoa whoa. Let's hold off bandwagoning me for a bit here, huh? There's already enough votes to lynch me.

Now something must be wrong with that result. I PM'd Seamus, and I'd appreciate it if you could hold off piling on the bandwagon further until I got a reply.

CR

*snickers*

Why on earth should we? Any real wiseguy would happy to die, to become incorruptible. The town should be happy that a wiseguy dies, because then they will throw themselves at helping the town as much as possible - can't win any otherway.

[Crazed Rabbit]

*snickers*

Why on earth should we? Any real wiseguy would happy to die, to become incorruptible. The town should be happy that a wiseguy dies, because then they will throw themselves at helping the town as much as possible - can't win any otherway.

:inquisitive:
The what now? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTFwAxfHgSA)

~;p

CR

[Askthepizzaguy]

Now something must be wrong with that result. I PM'd Seamus

:inquisitive:

Error in the results from two sources on the same night? I don't think so... :no:

But sure, if Seamus sends "more accurate" results to both of my sources, and then they inform me of the change, then yeah, I'll buy it. Until then, there's no reason anyone should be unvoting you.

[Lord Winter]

I'd suggest a duel lynch of CR and Reenk.

[Crazed Rabbit]

But sure, if Seamus sends "more accurate" results to both of my sources, and then they inform me of the change, then yeah, I'll buy it. Until then, there's no reason anyone should be unvoting you.

Well that is the hope. And you had two people investigate me? :inquisitive:

CR

[Reenk Roink]

I too am perplexed at why two investigations were needed on CR. :huh: If this is any indication of the efficiency of the government than my attitude towards the Gmen was well justified...

Furthermore, the investigation results are well, unclear. I used to think the same scenario that Atpg gave out wasn't the case for actual Mafia, but I'm not exactly sure on that.

My hunch should have been good enough in the first place. :joker: But still, I gave out PM's with CR confessing to being a Mafia as well as confirming some kind of meta-Mafia alliance. Furthermore, I bothered to give out details of how exactly I was in contact with both players and what I was doing.

The Gmen would have been much better off investigating anyone other than LW or CR, both of who's guilt was established basically 100% over a week ago...

Ah well, at least it got the members of the group to go out and vote. What should happen is an attempt at a double lynch of LW and CR. I doubt it succeeds, but it cant hurt to try. We also must ensure that some 3rd party isn't able to save both like last time, so I suggest a minimum of 8 votes on both to stop any attempt of dogpiling a third.

Finally the Gmen should investigate Centurion1 whose name I will also now make public as a likely Mafia.

To my communist friends I will certainly try and appease you as well, I'll get back to you tomorrow after the lynch when things are less hectic (can't do the PM sending thing now).

edit: For all the Reenk = communist and communist = bad: I have direct lines to both the CIA and FBI as well. Think about that. :wink:

[Askthepizzaguy]

And you had two people investigate me? :inquisitive:

CR

Someone definitely dropped the ball on that, and looking through my PMs it was probably me. But yeah, what a coincidence they would both finger you as criminal after your previous guilty result. There must be some mistake.

:inquisitive:

As it appears there's something strange about Rhyfelwyr, and DJGingivitis was accused of being a Don and all but admitted as much, if you're innocent (somehow...) you would be the first totally innocent person lynched by this town the entire game. I don't believe for a moment both detectives would be so wrong about you, but I'm willing to wait. If we don't hear back before the lynch time tomorrow, I would prefer we move more votes on you to ensure you don't wiggle out of the lynch a second time.

Those last minute shenanigans from the previous day phase look pretty damaging to me, especially considering who ended up voting for whom.


1st DJGingivitis: 8 (gibsonsg91921, Sasaki Kojiro, DisgruntledGoat, Ricera10, Chaotix, woad&fangs, Lord Winter, Crazed Rabbit)

2nd Lord Winter: 6 (Moros, Tincow, Beefy187, Sigurd, Proletariat, Joooray)

3rd Crazed Rabbit: 5 (Reenk Roink, Diana Abnoba, Shinseikhaan, Andres, slashandburn)


We have some pretty shifty characters all voting for DJG, (bolded) and then we have someone who failed utterly in sending in protection orders as well. That accounts for half of the votes on DJG... and seemingly, all for the purpose of sparing both Crazed Rabbit and Lord Winter. Even if DJG was a Don, apparently his family was in shambles or nonexistent. I believe this is all a ploy from the largest family to spare their loyal henchmen, and get rid of a potential rival in the process.

I am very anxious to find out what is really going on here. But whatever we decide, let us make sure there are no more last-minute revelations, bogus or not, to spare some baddies from the block.

[slashandburn]

I strongly suggest that we lynch CR. :yes:

[Crazed Rabbit]

To my communist friends I will certainly try and appease you as well, I'll get back to you tomorrow after the lynch when things are less hectic (can't do the PM sending thing now).

Your communist friends? :inquisitive:


I don't believe for a moment both detectives would be so wrong about you, but I'm willing to wait.

I think Seamus must have been mistaken about my status and simply sent the same thing to both investigators. I don't think it's to much to ask that I not be bandwagoned right now, so that when Seamus sends out the corrected results I'm not lynched anyway.


and DJGingivitis was accused of being a Don and all but admitted as much
...
Even if DJG was a Don, apparently his family was in shambles or nonexistent

Rather contradictory isn't that? If I was a mafia I wouldn't vote to lynch any don, even if it meant I died, since even Don one all by himself becomes a serial killer, which helps all the mafia. And it seems the serial killer who cuts people into five pieces didn't appear last night, so it seems likely DJG was a don.

CR

[a completely inoffensive name]

It is obvious that CR and Reenk are communists working for the FBI as part of a vigilante group that they have infiltrated in an attempt at taking control of the mafia so they can destroy the town together.

[seireikhaan]

Why on earth was another investigation wasted on someone who had a guilty result? :whip:

I will Vote: Reenk Roink

An admitted communist, and thereby a threat to american freedom. I think CR can be taken down at night easier, if the town would get their act together. :stare: There's certainly no way that Reenk is going to allow himself to be unprotected.

[ULC]

I find it ironic that in this game, the word "innocence" is pretty much taboo :laugh4:

[DisgruntledGoat]

I love how ATPG insists I failed to send it my orders still. He has absolutely ZERO proof. Its absolute hog wash and he knows it. Thats why he had me killed in a vig hit instead of lynching me and continues to tell the lie so people just assume its true. ATPG will kill anyone anytime, it doesn't matter to him. I wouldn't be surprised if half the "investigation" results he posts are utter fabrications just so he can get his preferred target killed.

I'll just quote ATPG here to show you his mind set:



But you know me, always up for a challenge, taking the hard route, putting too much on myself, telling huge lies that people eat right up...

Ya definitely the guy that should be running the show. So far the town has let a communist be director and a self serving CIA man do it as well, all the while pushing his own agenda and getting honest townies killed. Townies that did his bidding until he didn't need them and discarded them let like a used condom.

[ULC]

Disgruntled Goat is Disgruntled, no?

[DisgruntledGoat]

You serve dutifully in protection groups and vig groups only to be killed by the guy that you were helping just because he needed a scape goat. It's racial profiling I tells ya!

Plus I am always disgruntled.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I love how ATPG insists I failed to send it my orders still. He has absolutely ZERO proof. Its absolute hog wash and he knows it. Thats why he had me killed in a vig hit instead of lynching me and continues to tell the lie so people just assume its true. ATPG will kill anyone anytime, it doesn't matter to him. I wouldn't be surprised if half the "investigation" results he posts are utter fabrications just so he can get his preferred target killed.

Ya definitely the guy that should be running the show. So far the town has let a communist be director and a self serving CIA man do it as well, all the while pushing his own agenda and getting honest townies killed. Townies that did his bidding until he didn't need them and discarded them let like a used condom.

Mmmm.... so yeah, it was Beskar or Diana who failed to protect our doctor. Right.

Don't think so. Beskar and Diana were killed by the mafia. And it did not matter if Beskar died, if everyone had sent their orders in, CDF would still be alive.

You were the only one I told, besides the investigator, that CDF was even a doctor. And that was right before he died. He joined the game, we checked his story, he turned up innocent, we put him to work, and he ends up dead right away, right after I told you he was a doctor, and I only told you that because you were all "I don't want to keep working for you unless you tell me why I'm protecting people". I should have booted you right then, but I trusted you. Now you won't harm us anymore. You got what you wanted, my top protection group taken down, and a doctor dead. But I will burn before I let you twist the facts about the situation. You're the only one who could have done it. You keep blaming me, but I wasn't the one sending in the protection orders! Even if I were somehow a scum, the protection would have worked if all three of you did your jobs. It was never in my hands, it was in yours.

Nay nay. I won't hear any more until I see the autopsy.

And reading your posts, they read just like classic dead mafia accusations. They even seem half-hearted, to be honest. There's an aura of being caught red-handed all over them.

[Beskar]

I sent in my orders.

[Chaotix]

You serve dutifully in protection groups and vig groups only to be killed by the guy that you were helping just because he needed a scape goat. It's racial profiling I tells ya!

Plus I am always disgruntled.

Wait... does that make you a DisgruntledScapeGoat?

[Diana Abnoba]

I sent my orders in also (as I did every night). I also was the one who PM'd Seamus to find out if there was any chance that the protection group failed due to Beskar's death. He told me that all night actions happen at the same time, so even if someone dies in that protection group, it still works. I posted Seamus' quoted PM in thread.

[Myrddraal]

I wonder if CR is the crazed rabbit killer. I would laugh.

[KukriKhan]

Gotta get a vote in now, as will be afk when the extended deadline pops. It looks like

Crazed Rabbit &
Reenk Roink

are the leading candidates. RR stinks of commie, but I don't know how big a threat they (commies) are to the town. A 75% convincing case is made for CR being mafia, and significant mafia at that, so:

vote: Crazed Rabbit

[Crazed Rabbit]

2 points: I'm already first in line to be lynched, Kukri, and having a bunch of people who have voted me will make it more difficult to change when Seamus finally reads my PM (which I sent 17 hours ago and he still, very unfortunately, has not read). I know ATPG has more people lined up to vote me, so if I'm the most suspicious there's no need to vote for me.

Second, AskthePizzaGuy is a lying killer. That is, he's lied to the town and pro-town players, and he's killing people without any regard to whether they are guilty or innocent.

Before he killed Yaropolk, who turned out to be completely innocent. He also said that his killing of Yaro was a one-time event, that his targets had to be found guilty before he could even target them.

And now it's clear that he's attacked Pannonian and would have killed him but Pannonian got lucky.

So tell me, ATPG, where's the guilty result on Pannonian? It's clear you had enough investigators to check me twice. But somehow I don't think there was any guilty result on Pannonian, just like there wasn't any on Yaropolk. He was simply another person you felt compelled to kill without consulting the town.

Is the town going to tolerate the deceptions and killings?

CR

[Centurion1]

Reenk i would like your proof. i have discussed my results with ATPG and we have come to an understanding. How about you stop making up stuff against anyone who disagrees with you, COMMUNIST.

Vote: reenk roink

[Askthepizzaguy]

2 points: I'm already first in line to be lynched, Kukri, and having a bunch of people who have voted me will make it more difficult to change when Seamus finally reads my PM (which I sent 17 hours ago and he still, very unfortunately, has not read). I know ATPG has more people lined up to vote me, so if I'm the most suspicious there's no need to vote for me.

Second, AskthePizzaGuy is a lying killer. That is, he's lied to the town and pro-town players, and he's killing people without any regard to whether they are guilty or innocent.

Before he killed Yaropolk, who turned out to be completely innocent. He also said that his killing of Yaro was a one-time event, that his targets had to be found guilty before he could even target them.

And now it's clear that he's attacked Pannonian and would have killed him but Pannonian got lucky.

So tell me, ATPG, where's the guilty result on Pannonian? It's clear you had enough investigators to check me twice. But somehow I don't think there was any guilty result on Pannonian, just like there wasn't any on Yaropolk. He was simply another person you felt compelled to kill without consulting the town.

Is the town going to tolerate the deceptions and killings?

CR

Wait... are you Crazed Rabbit or DisgruntledGoat? I can't tell, you're basically saying the same thing. I feel like I'm in a Chinese restaurant, reading the place mats. Let's see... I was born in 1983, and that makes me a boar (heh, how about "bore"?) so I'm supposed to marry a rabbit. :sweatdrop:

All right, just a few strokes of the pen.... now it says I'm supposed to marry lynch a rabbit. Apparently it will bring us good fortune.

As for Yaropolk, yeah, you caught me... questionable results don't always lead to communists. Sorry.... just like guilty results don't always lead to mafia. It's just the nature of the game. And having the ability to attack people is a stunning revelation, since I've openly admitted to having such an ability since when... round three?


Is the town going to tolerate the deceptions and killings?

Not from the mafia, we're not. :laugh4: You're not going to get the town to do your dirty work for you. If you want me dead, come and get me yourselves.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Wait... are you Crazed Rabbit or DisgruntledGoat? I can't tell, you're basically saying the same thing. I feel like I'm in a Chinese restaurant, reading the place mats. Let's see... I was born in 1983, and that makes me a boar (heh, how about "bore"?) so I'm supposed to marry a rabbit. :sweatdrop:

DisgruntledGoat very likely failed to send a protection and is rambling on with general accusations. I am doing none of that. I sent in my group protection orders last night, and I am making specific, important, points.

So don't try to associate me with him.


As for Yaropolk, yeah, you caught me... questionable results don't always lead to communists. Sorry.... just like guilty results don't always lead to mafia. It's just the nature of the game. And having the ability to attack people is a stunning revelation, since I've openly admitted to having such an ability since when... round three?

Ah, more distortion. Pretending to be open and honest while really not answering anything. I did not say your ability to kill was a revelation.

First, you are dodging the most important point completely: that you attempted to kill Pannonian. Why don't you admit it? It's obvious from the kill attempt description.

So, I have to ask myself why a very involved person such as yourself would ignore that completely. And it seems to me you are hiding something. If you weren't, wouldn't you be honest about your activities?

You say now you had a 'questionable' result from Yaropolk. But you are strangely silent about Pannonian's "guilt". Judging from your evasive attitude, I think it's likely that you don't have any guilty result from him.

You also completely ignore the allegation that you lied about how your killing ability was a "one-shot" deal.


Not from the mafia, we're not. :laugh4: You're not going to get the town to do your dirty work for you. If you want me dead, come and get me yourselves.

That's funny, because you haven't denied that you've lied to the town and attempted to kill another person after killing the innocent Yaropolk.

CR

[Askthepizzaguy]

DisgruntledGoat very likely failed to send a protection and is rambling on with general accusations. I am doing none of that. I sent in my group protection orders last night, and I am making specific, important, points.

So don't try to associate me with him.

Very well, I'll keep my criticism pointed and direct. You went from being guilty to criminal, and it's been many hours since you protested those results were in error, and nothing has come to me or the investigators overturning those results. We've lynched people on a lot less than that, even rumor and speculation.

The fact that you sent in protection orders does not make you innocent. In fact, it's perhaps the most incriminating piece of evidence against you... no kill last night would give you your criminal result back if you were an affiliated mobster.


Ah, more distortion. Pretending to be open and honest while really not answering anything. I did not say your ability to kill was a revelation.

Ah, so it is old news! :shrug: then we can move on.


First, you are dodging the most important point completely: that you attempted to kill Pannonian. Why don't you admit it? It's obvious from the kill attempt description.

Sure. Pannonian is on the suspected Dons list. He's been mostly inactive, has given excuse posts and otherwise not contributed to the town's effort, and we cannot account for his whereabouts at night. He also has questionable results. If town didn't want me to continue hunting commies, they should have kept me as Director. It's my function, and since the commies are definitely not pro-town roles, no one is really protesting that action.

I can do that and help hunt mafia at the same time. In fact, Pannonian is an example where he was two suspects in one. He could have been anti-town in two different ways.


So, I have to ask myself why a very involved person such as yourself would ignore that completely. And it seems to me you are hiding something. If you weren't, wouldn't you be honest about your activities?

No, that does not necessarily follow. Ask DisgruntledGoat about my "honesty" when I'm working on the side of the town. He just hosted a game where I lied right from day one about what I was, and what my abilities were. It completely fooled the mafia and I was vital in taking down not one, but two of them, in a smallish game, before I died. Anyone who feels that being totally honest in a game of mafia is a good idea, is fooling themselves. Ask Taka about my honesty when I'm on the town's side.

However, there's no reason to be dishonest here. Pannonian is a suspected traitor and suspected Don, and he's certainly not vital to our efforts either way, since he can't be bothered to show up and vote. By my count, he's also not likely a pro-town role.


You say now you had a 'questionable' result from Yaropolk. But you are strangely silent about Pannonian's "guilt". Judging from your evasive attitude, I think it's likely that you don't have any guilty result from him.

If I had a good lead on a communist or a Don, and I announced it to the world, don't you think a protection group might have been organized? Would have tipped off his Luca, if he has one, or at least got a bunch of henchmen to protect him. Maybe even some townies who aren't a fan of my methods, would have wasted my time and theirs, accomplishing nothing.

It's also entirely beside the point for today, which is who we should be lynching. Investigative results say you, other people are suggesting Lord Winter. Reenk is also calling for Centurion1's head. And some very shady people are suggesting Reenk Roink is a communist, with little or no evidence thereof, besides his admission that he knows some and is working with them, just like he knows CIA and FBI as well.... hardly conclusive stuff, but feel free to point out a detective result or private message which proves his guilt. I'd be quite interested to know, as you might imagine.

I find it interesting Reenk is being so openly declared a communist by people who are under suspicion. It smells to me like you're trying to get my attention and get me to knee-jerk vote for him on suspicion of being a commie, because you know I'm not a fan of commies. I'm not that single-minded, you'll have to do better than that.


You also completely ignore the allegation that you lied about how your killing ability was a "one-shot" deal.

Yes, and I wasn't honest when I originally said I was a wiseguy, to some very innocent townies like TheStranger. I'm just chock full of misdirection. :laugh4: How's Skooma Addict, by the way? Still vital to my organization, or have we cleared that up yet? :wink:


That's funny, because you haven't denied that you've lied to the town and attempted to kill another person after killing the innocent Yaropolk.

CR

I wouldn't deny it, because those are the kinds of lies I hope I don't tell; the stupid kind.

I enjoy a good debate, but this is not earth-shattering stuff, and I believe the town is content to let the commies and the FBI/CIA attempt to destroy each other, and the communists help destroy the mafia. The town is focused on the mafia, so all this accusation of communism is stuff only mafia and g-men are concerned with. I wonder why it piques your interest so much, as you're not claiming to be a g-man. That would leave a very interesting option for what you could be, something Reenk's been screaming about for a while, and something even the investigators have concluded.

Who are you trying to convince? I don't think the town is buying it. To me, this seems like a reasonable cover argument to get a bunch of mafia to save you from the lynch, again. People can claim to be swayed by your argument and less obviously spare another mafioso from justice.

We were going to lynch you last round, and we didn't have the conclusive results we have today. Stop squirming and accept your punishment.

:smash:

[Chaotix]

ATPG's questionable nature doesn't change your guilt, CR.

It was Reenk that exposed you, anyway, not him. But either way, Reenk got you to admit you were mafia and ATPG has guilty as well as criminal investigation results on you. All signs point to you being guilty.

:shrug:

Do I necessarily trust ATPG or Reenk? No. Are they exposing mafia with good backup evidence and a good record so far? Yes.

And besides, if Reenk is really a Communist like you claim he is, than that makes the two of them mortal enemies. With any luck, they might just kill each other off. I'd say even if your claims are true, things are still going to work out for the town.

[DisgruntledGoat]

ATPG's questionable nature doesn't change your guilt, CR.

It was Reenk that exposed you, anyway, not him. But either way, Reenk got you to admit you were mafia and ATPG has guilty as well as criminal investigation results on you. All signs point to you being guilty.

:shrug:

Do I necessarily trust ATPG or Reenk? No. Are they exposing mafia with good backup evidence and a good record so far? Yes.

And besides, if Reenk is really a Communist like you claim he is, than that makes the two of them mortal enemies. With any luck, they might just kill each other off. I'd say even if your claims are true, things are still going to work out for the town.

Reenk is a communist.



edit: For all the Reenk = communist and communist = bad: I have direct lines to both the CIA and FBI as well. Think about that. :wink:

Doesn't exactly say he isn't does he.

Not only that, but apparently he attempted to feed slashandburn (an FBI agent) to someone he thought was mafia. Why on earth would Reenk do that while publicly supporting Slashandburn?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Very well, I'll keep my criticism pointed and direct. You went from being guilty to criminal, and it's been many hours since you protested those results were in error, and nothing has come to me or the investigators overturning those results. We've lynched people on a lot less than that, even rumor and speculation.

That's because Seamus hasn't returned and still has not read my PM. :wall: So of course he can't have sent anything to the detectives.


The fact that you sent in protection orders does not make you innocent. In fact, it's perhaps the most incriminating piece of evidence against you... no kill last night would give you your criminal result back if you were an affiliated mobster.

Seamus made a mistake. Clearly, I wouldn't have based my entire defense on something that would prove me guilty.


Sure. Pannonian is on the suspected Dons list. He's been mostly inactive, has given excuse posts and otherwise not contributed to the town's effort, and we cannot account for his whereabouts at night. He also has questionable results. If town didn't want me to continue hunting commies, they should have kept me as Director. It's my function, and since the commies are definitely not pro-town roles, no one is really protesting that action.

I can do that and help hunt mafia at the same time. In fact, Pannonian is an example where he was two suspects in one. He could have been anti-town in two different ways.

Did you investigate him? Surely you could spare someone.



No, that does not necessarily follow. Ask DisgruntledGoat about my "honesty" when I'm working on the side of the town. He just hosted a game where I lied right from day one about what I was, and what my abilities were. It completely fooled the mafia and I was vital in taking down not one, but two of them, in a smallish game, before I died. Anyone who feels that being totally honest in a game of mafia is a good idea, is fooling themselves. Ask Taka about my honesty when I'm on the town's side.

Did you discuss this with any townies you trust? Anybody? Or is this another kill you hoped to slip under the radar?



If I had a good lead on a communist or a Don, and I announced it to the world, don't you think a protection group might have been organized? Would have tipped off his Luca, if he has one, or at least got a bunch of henchmen to protect him. Maybe even some townies who aren't a fan of my methods, would have wasted my time and theirs, accomplishing nothing.

Does it look like any mafia has the numbers to organize protections? And lucas automatically protect anyway. I didn't say you should announce it to the town, but discuss it with people.



I find it interesting Reenk is being so openly declared a communist by people who are under suspicion.

Like Beskar? Hmm, guess you're wrong there.


I enjoy a good debate, but this is not earth-shattering stuff, and I believe the town is content to let the commies and the FBI/CIA attempt to destroy each other, and the communists help destroy the mafia. The town is focused on the mafia, so all this accusation of communism is stuff only mafia and g-men are concerned with. I wonder why it piques your interest so much, as you're not claiming to be a g-man. That would leave a very interesting option for what you could be, something Reenk's been screaming about for a while, and something even the investigators have concluded.

I've been hunting communists since the beginning, as a favor to a commie hunter I know.

CR

[TinCow]

Managed to read the thread this time. Though there is no current tally, the current trend seems to be between CR and RR. I understand the moves against a communist from a few people who have that as their own goal, and it is to be expected. However, as I understand it, that's a side goal even for the anti-communist roles and eliminating the mafia is far more important. Thus, I cannot possibly see how RR could be a better lynch than either CR or LW, both of whom have very strong evidence indicating that they are Made/Luca.

Unvote; Vote: CR

I suspect we'll see large numbers of mafioso in the RR voting list. FOS to all of them.

[Reenk Roink]

The thing is CR, your criticisms of Atpg are valid. I shared them and still do. The only thing is Atpg is really in no position to pull a fast one on the town anymore. He is too well in the spotlight. Obviously, nearly every faction knows about his movements. He would be easily lynched should he do something really bad anymore.

This openness to the town paralyzes him from doing bad for the town in many ways. :yes:

I don't even very much accept his case against you, because it is unclear whether a normal wiseguy would also have that. Besides, as far as I'm concerned there isn't more that can be done about your guilt, not only did you confess to me, but you confessed in a very specific circumstance that makes the confession nearly certainly genuine. Not to mention that the Gmen have been wrong in their investigations before (if the Atpg version of the story is to be believed about Yaropolk).

I really do feel bad about ratting you guys out, especially you. What the Mafia has done in this game is so reminiscent about what our family did in Capo I where you went ahead and got Pindar, Alex, Xiahou, and others and we were a machine.

Don't think for a second that I didn't want to be a part of that. First of all, I always like Mafia 1000000x more than town. Secondly, so many familiar and friendly faces were in the Mafia, while the town had many skeptical, ungrateful, and slanderous people.

The only problem was, I was also paralyzed. First of all, I'm a townie. Second, I was paralyzed as director for 6 rounds. How could I ever work my way up? Not to mention I was in the same position as Atpg was. People knew what I was doing.

So I leaked what I knew and grudgingly accepted my crappy role fate had given me. I still think you guys are plenty strong, even with the four of you recently exposed. so good luck. :bow:

As soon as I die, I might even be rooting for you good guys. :bow:

[Crazed Rabbit]

ATPG has been killing innocents in the spotlight and his followers don't seem to mind. I don't mind being lynched when I'm guilty, it's getting lynched again in Capo as a pro-town role that bothers me.

And you, Reenk, have been after me ever since you knew I was looking for commies. Even now I've become you're primary target, after you declaring Lord Winter was mafia yesterday. I'm amazed anyone could believe your story about how you want to become mafia but couldn't because you were director. Like a mafia family would reject the director of the town, or like you couldn't greatly assist the mafia. Or that you 'became trapped' in a townie role because you started as a townie. Either your lying about not being mafia or you're covering for some other role.

CR

[Beskar]

Reenk Roink isn't a communist, that was part of my disinformation campaign which I supplied to the Mafia. :laugh4: :2thumbsup:

[Reenk Roink]

Unvote: Lord Winter
Vote: Crazed Rabbit

Beskar please try and keep up with the game. Everyone except for a few townies know I'm not a communist. :rolleyes: Do you really believe CR, LW, Goat, Centurion, Sasaki believe it at all?