Capo di Tutti Capi III [Concluded]

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Yes, though I cannot here go into specifics.

All sorts of groups have been formed in the past, and of varying numbers.

[Sigurd]

Isn't he from Oz? If so, he'd just about be getting to morning tea pretty soon.
Hmmm, you are right. It is about 5:30 in the morning in NSW. BUT ... It has been 18 hours since ATPG's accusation.

:beam:

[Andres]

Yes, though I cannot here go into specifics.

All sorts of groups have been formed in the past, and of varying numbers.

Ok, so either GH or ATPG is a Made gangster.

[ULC]

I have not spoke enough it seems, but in anyway, allow me to clear somethings up.

If we are dealing with Russians of a less favorable sort, we must also remember that Russia is not all communist - some are Bolshevik, Red, some are Menshevik, White. I must also state that the Stranger's kill was obviously not performed with ill intent, as can be seen if one reads it properly, and I thought we established that the kill was done by a single person, not a family or group? There is also the reference to French, and a mosin-nagant, indications of Imperial Russia, which are more White, or pro-monarchist and pro-provisional supporters.

Please, take more thought into consideration.

More information to hgelp those of the committee.

"During World War I, some anti-war mensheviks had formed a group called Menshevik-internationalists (меньшевики-интернационалисты). They opposed war and 'social chauvinism', were active around the newspaper Novaya Zhizn and took part in the Mezhraiontsy formation. After July 1917 events in Russia, they broke with Menshevik majority that supported war. The mensheviks-internationalists became the hub of the Russian Social Democratic Workers' Party (of internationalists) (РСДРП (интернационалистов)). In 1920, right-wing mensheviks-internationalists emigrated, some of them pursued anti-bolshevik activities.[1]

The Democratic Republic of Georgia was a stronghold of the Mensheviks. In parliamentary elections held on February 14, 1919 they won 81.5 percent of the votes, and the Menshevik leader Noe Zhordania became Prime minister."

[Lord Winter]

YLC this is set thirty years latter when Stalin has killed off all the whites. I think it is much more likely that the russian faction is communist due to the time frame in american history.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Host's Tally (through YLC's post)

1st place

CountArach: 18 (askthepizzaguy, Beskar, Craterus, Diana Abnoba, DisgruntledGoat, DJGingivtis, Double A, El Diablo, gibsonsg91921, johnhughthom, Jolt, Jooray, Lord Winter, Proletariat, Psychonaut, Sasaki Kojiro, shlin28, White_eyes:D)

1st place

GeneralHankerchief: 18 (Andres, atheotes, Beefy187, Chaotix, Discovery1, GSC, Ironside, Iskander3.1, Kagemusha, Kommodus, Kukrikhan, Myrddraal, reicer10, Split', Tincow, Tratorix, woad&fangs, YLC)

3rd place

woad&fangs: 4 (LittleGrizzly, scottishranger, shinseikhaan, Sigurd)

4th place

Saskai Kojiro: 2 (GeneralHankerchief, slashandburn)

5th place

Andres: 1 (Moros )

[B]askthepizzaguy: 1 (Joe Monks)

shlin28: 1 (Crazed Rabbit)

abstain: 1 (AVSM)


Please supply a correct one or PM if there are concerns here.


Selection is heavily in favor of Reenk Roink

[ULC]

So, no Russians live elsewhere? No Whites elsewhere? Naivety, and I think we are dealing with more here then anyone knows.

[Moros]

if still possible:
unvote: Andres
Vote: abstain

[atheotes]

Good that there is a tie... lets see how long it lasts...

[glyphz]

Much prefer to wait for what CountArach has to say before placing a vote, but since my participation in the following hours will be restricted,I'll leave with a Vote: abstain for now, especially since it's currently at a tie.

[pevergreen]

Wait.. so you are saying that Reenk Roink orchestrated the vig kill on pevergreen? And then publicly accused The Stranger to muddle it up?
Don't you ever accuse reenk like that again! :laugh4:

So I think it's reasonable to ask that NO ONE LISTEN TO THE STRANGER. We really don't need more of his organizing.

CR
QFT.

Isn't he from Oz? If so, he'd just about be getting to morning tea pretty soon.
Its 8:00am >_>

Much prefer to wait for what CountArach has to say before placing a vote, but since my participation in the following hours will be restricted,I'll leave with a Vote: abstain for now, especially since it's currently at a tie.
CA will be on in a few hours.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Uh, CountArach has been online since my accusation of him.

I have MSN messenger, and so does he. He was online about 7 hours ago when I went to sleep around 11AM my time.

[slashandburn]

have seen arguments and Unvote, Vote CA can change vote at or near deadline to keep tie.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Keep it at a tie.

[pevergreen]

Computer may be on, he may not.

And 1 AM is acceptable for him, he just goes to uni, unlike some of us.

[a completely inoffensive name]

sigh, because slashandburn broke it:
Unvote CA; Vote: GH

[johnhughthom]

That still keeps the tie broken ACIN, just the other way.

[Sigurd]

I wont be here when this is settled. Unvote W&F, vote: CountArach

[atheotes]

its a tie now... i think there is a little more than an hour to go...

[a completely inoffensive name]

That still keeps the tie broken ACIN, just the other way.

Oh shoot. Sorry, just woke up.

[Lord Winter]

I never got the point of keeping it at a tie.

[Tratorix]

I never got the point of keeping it at a tie.

That way they both get lynched.

[Splitpersonality]

We can eliminate 2 suspicios people at the same time.

[atheotes]

we can leave it at a tie and the director can decide to lynch both or choose one :bow:

[Lord Winter]

Even outside of Capo there seems to be a general want to force ties in the more normal games. I always thought that was just the town giving up control that they needed.

[Caius]

To CountArach, and to Seamus,

Is it possible to vote the Director when he was elected? I recall that you couldn't, that is why I did not vote him. Maybe the vote did not count. I don't remember, nor can be bothered to read the rules.

[Myrddraal]

I don't think it is a tie....

My tally, someone please check it:

CountArach 20:
Askthepizzaguy, Beskar, Craterus, Diana Abnoba, DisgruntledGoat, DJGingivitis, Double A, El Diablo, gibsonsg91921, johnhughthom, Jolt, Jooray, Lord Winter, Proletariat, Psychonaut, Sasaki Kojiro, shlin28, Sigurd, slashandburn, White_Eyes:D

GeneralHankerchief 19:
a completely inoffensive name, Andres, atheotes, Beefy187, Chaotix, Discovery1, Gaius Scribonius Curio, Ironside, Kagemusha, Kommodus, Myrddraal, splitpersonality, Tratorix, woad&fangs, YLC

Please someone check this from the offical host tally onwards.

[scottishranger]

From what I have been able to keep up with, we should go for a tie.
Unvote:
Vote: GH

[Myrddraal]

nvmind, posted before I read scottishranger's post

[CountArach]

I go out and get drunk and come back to 10 unread pages where it seems I am going to be lynched?

Isn't a hangover enough?

[atheotes]

i think you have about 20 mins to get your defense... Good luck :bow:

[Jolt]

FoS: Jolt for trying to throw suspicion off him and onto the stranger with little evidence.

I'm sorry, but care to explain how am I throwing suspicion off of me?

EDIT: Plus, its pretty much agreed that pevergreen was killed on TheStranger's orders, so I don't see how TheStranger is "suspicious" if anything. Your entire wording seems to me like your covering him up.

[Lord Winter]

I think it's still a tie.

Seamuses tally: GH: 18 CA: 18
SlashandBurns vote: GH: 18 CA: 19
ACIN's Vote: GH 19 CA: 18
Sigurd's vote: GH 19 CA: 19

Well it was before SR's vote now it's one towards GH

[Tratorix]

I go out and get drunk and come back to 10 unread pages where it seems I am going to be lynched?

Isn't a hangover enough?

Drink too much Vodka last night comrade? :inquisitive:

[Lord Winter]

I'm sorry, but care to explain how am I throwing suspicion off of me?

EDIT: Plus, its pretty much agreed that pevergreen was killed on TheStranger's orders, so I don't see how TheStranger is "suspicious" if anything. Your entire wording seems to me like your covering him up.

Keeping the focus on the stranger and off the case against you, CA and Yarpolk.

[CountArach]

Uh, CountArach has been online since my accusation of him.

I have MSN messenger, and so does he. He was online about 7 hours ago when I went to sleep around 11AM my time.
I was drunk. I barely understand Capo when I'm sober and Facebook seemed more entertaining. pever can back me up by checking my Facebok profile I'm sure.

Still 8 pages of catching up to go, but I will post this PM I received based on something in Red in my role PM.

scottishranger = criminal

[Jolt]

Keeping the focus on the stranger and off the case against you, CA and Yarpolk.

Now this is really starting to annoy me. What the :daisy: else do you want me to explain??? What focus should there be on my case in which I haven't successfully explained?? Care to expand on that matter?? Do you have anything else to add or ask?

You just earned my top-most attention.


Language please - Sigurd

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So we need a vote on countArach or an unvote of GH?

[atheotes]

the vote tally is off...
ACIN said "Unvote CA; Vote: GH" and people adjusted for the tie from there...

but i dont think ACIN's vote was on CA to start with...

Host's tally:


Host's Tally (through YLC's post)

1st place

CountArach: 18 (askthepizzaguy, Beskar, Craterus, Diana Abnoba, DisgruntledGoat, DJGingivtis, Double A, El Diablo, gibsonsg91921, johnhughthom, Jolt, Jooray, Lord Winter, Proletariat, Psychonaut, Sasaki Kojiro, shlin28, White_eyes:D)

1st place

GeneralHankerchief: 18 (Andres, atheotes, Beefy187, Chaotix, Discovery1, GSC, Ironside, Iskander3.1, Kagemusha, Kommodus, Kukrikhan, Myrddraal, reicer10, Split', Tincow, Tratorix, woad&fangs, YLC)

3rd place

woad&fangs: 4 (LittleGrizzly, scottishranger, shinseikhaan, Sigurd)

4th place

Saskai Kojiro: 2 (GeneralHankerchief, slashandburn)

5th place

Andres: 1 (Moros )

[B]askthepizzaguy: 1 (Joe Monks)

shlin28: 1 (Crazed Rabbit)

abstain: 1 (AVSM)


Please supply a correct one or PM if there are concerns here.


Selection is heavily in favor of Reenk Roink

[CountArach]

Vote: GH because such things amuse me.

I also urge all good-hearted Comrades to join with myself via PM.

[seireikhaan]

Unvote: Woad


Vote: Sasaki

:tongue:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: GH because such things amuse me.

I also urge all good-hearted Comrades to join with myself via PM.

An admission of guilt a minute before the deadline?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Unvote: Sasaki
Vote: CountArach

[CountArach]

An admission of guilt a minute before the deadline?
I shall cover this during the night phase... I just need time.

[atheotes]

we need one on GH now for a tie.... i think:sweatdrop:

maybe its too late...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Those were some awesome last minute shenanigans. Showing up right before the deadline, no actual refutation of the accusations given, playing the sympathy (drunk) card, and asking for all comrades to join you privately.

I will be pleased to hear the full story. I have my popcorn ready.

[a completely inoffensive name]

but i dont think ACIN's vote was on CA to start with...
Yes, it was atheotes.

[White_eyes:D]

Unvote:CountArach Vote:abstain

I want to leave this to Reenk's "Club 30 court of law":eyebrows:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Now it's 2 towards GH...

[Splitpersonality]

Unvote:GH

Vote:CA

for the tie.

[Jolt]

FOS: Anyone who unvotes to break the tie

[scottishranger]

Unvote
Vote: CA

to even things up and show what I think of his results.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This is past the deadline is it not? :book:

[CountArach]

Unvote
Vote: CA

to even things up and show what I think of his results.
Guilty written all over it.

[scottishranger]

Ack, nm that.

Unvote:
Vote: GH

[White_eyes:D]

we need one on GH now for a tie.... i think:sweatdrop:

maybe its too late...


Now it's 2 towards GH...
Stop confusing me...:stare:

[Askthepizzaguy]

1. edited votes don't get counted.
2. are there any reasons for these completely bizarre vote shifts?
3. do they even count?
4. I am confused.

[scottishranger]

This is all irrelevant anyways. The deadline was 2000 Eastern Anyways

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh.

Then unvote, vote: Spongebob Squarepants.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Oh.

Then unvote, vote: Spongebob Squarepants.

Spongebob Squarepants is innocent!

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have a detective result on him that says he's moldy.

[Diana Abnoba]

Yes he is innocent, and I can prove it. He was with me in a protection group last night. :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

All your protection groups are moldy! You're one of them! You'll never catch me alive, coppers!

[atheotes]

but i dont think ACIN's vote was on CA to start with...
Yes, it was atheotes.

then the Host's tally was off i guess... because i did not find your vote there :shrug:

[a completely inoffensive name]

then the Host's tally was off i guess... because i did not find your vote there :shrug:

I voted for CA early on then switched it over to GH later not realizing that I wasn't breaking the tie but just making GH ahead of CA.

[glyphz]

Seamus' tally was indeed partly off as noted by Myrddraal

CountArach: 21 - Askthepizzaguy, Beskar, Craterus, Sasaki Kojiro, El Diablo, Diana Abnoba, Double A, Jolt, Psychonaut, DisgruntledGoat, gibsonsg91921, Proletariat, DJGingivitis, shlin28, johnhughthom, Joooray, Lord Winter, slashandburn, Sigurd, GeneralHankerchief, spL1tp3r50naL1ty

GeneralHankerchief: 20 - Kommodus, Tratorix, TinCow, atheotes, Chaotix, ricera10, Gaius Scribonius Curio, YLC, Beefy, Andres, KukriKhan, woad&fangs, Myrddraal, Iskander 3.1, Kagemusha, discovery1, Ironside, completely inoffensive name, CountArach, scottishranger,

woad&fangs: LittleGrizzly
Sasaki Kojiro: Shinseikhaan,
shlin28: Crazed Rabbit
Askthepizzaguy: JoeMonks,

Abstain: AVSM, abstain, glyphzWhite_eyes:D,

need to double-check (so many juggling votes:juggle2:), and when is the deadline anyway?

[scottishranger]

It was at 2000

so like 40 minutes ago.

[slashandburn]

FOS: GH for changing at the last moment.

[Splitpersonality]

Unvote


Vote:Abstain for the tie.

[gibsonsg91921]

I think these votes don't count, dudes.

Vote: Pedro

[White_eyes:D]

Vote:Next guy who posts:laugh4:

[Xehh II]

Hello everyone, sorry for being inactive, I haven't been feeling too well.

[glyphz]

It was at 2000

so like 40 minutes ago.If what you say is true, and GH's vote one minute prior to that is the last legal vote, then it would have been CountArach 21-21 GeneralHankerchief, I believe...

[Iskander 3.1]

FOS: GH for changing at the last moment.

I would have done the same thing in that situation (and yes I'm still voting for him).


Vote:Next guy who posts:laugh4:

FOS: Xehh II Plus back in my undergrad days I couldn't run a proper NMR to save my life, maybe Captain Chloroform was out to get me.

[Joe Monks]

FOS: GH for changing at the last moment.

LOL we are lynching general handkerchief isnt that eneogh of FOS

edit : at least we tried.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Sorry folks, no write up yet. Wanted to post this for a double check. I had missed acin's earlier vote for a CA, so any and all should sing out quickly before Reenk takes over the show.



Host's Tally (GH's vote; last legal one)

1st place

CountArach: 21 (askthepizzaguy, Beskar, Craterus, Diana Abnoba, DisgruntledGoat, DJGingivtis, Double A, El Diablo, GeneralHankerchief, gibsonsg91921, johnhughthom, Jolt, Jooray, Lord Winter, Proletariat, Psychonaut, Sasaki Kojiro, shlin28, Sigurd, slashandburn, White_eyes:D)

1st place

GeneralHankerchief: 21 (A completely..., Andres, atheotes, Beefy187, Chaotix, CountArach, Discovery1, GSC, Ironside, Iskander3.1, Kagemusha, Kommodus, Kukrikhan, Myrddraal, ricera10, scottishranger, Split', Tincow, Tratorix, woad&fangs, YLC)

3rd place

woad&fangs: 1 (LittleGrizzly)
Saskai Kojiro: 1 (shinseikhaan)
askthepizzaguy: 1 (Joe Monks)
shlin28: 1 (Crazed Rabbit)

Others

abstain: 3 (AVSM, glyphz, Moros)


Selection is heavily in favor of Reenk Roink


*EDIT* Just rechecked my count and according to what I have it's accurate. I've sent that to Reenk for his verdict. Anybody notices a missing vote, mistake, or illegal vote should let me know soonest or this one will be resolved.

[slashandburn]

Reenk, lynch them both.

P.S. first tie plan that worked. :2thumbsup: town.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I suppose it's too much to ask for a recount? :laugh4:

[slashandburn]

Yes it is, this is New Jersey, not Florida.

[Reenk Roink]

GH has come and begged for his life for the interests of fun (though it's fun to kill GH the mafia scum plus I kinda remember Capo I :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:) and he has also stated that he will bring down Atpg's empire and maybe more.

Seamus you will have the revised decision in 20 minutes max. :bow:

[a completely inoffensive name]

Since this is my first Mafia game, I have to ask: Is this tie stuff common in these games?

[White_eyes:D]

No, people don't like it.....ATPG can explain the downside of it best...(In a game with this many people...we might need a few of these to weed out the scum):beam:

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Computer virused. Initiating cleanup. If I can get it (and all the records) up and running soon I will do so. If not, I'll log back on the son's computer and postpone so that I can make sure I'm okay to move forward. Sorry for the delay.

[Beskar]

Seamus was browsing naughty websites again.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I hope he at least turned private browsing on.

[LittleGrizzly]

Lynch them both I think...

[Lord Winter]

Since this is my first Mafia game, I have to ask: Is this tie stuff common in these games?

Yep, in the early to mid game people obsess over them.

[Reenk Roink]

Ok, I have judged and I have spared GH. I know this is probably a very unpopular move but hear me out. The rationale for a double lynch is that we get rid of more scum. But if we leave this scum alive he will take shots at other scum, and that could do a lot more damage than a double lynch.

Now then, I suggest Atpg die next round as planned. We let GH have this night and the next to do our work for us, then we kill him.

Also, I wrote up a lynch that really only worked for one person. The dancing in the club one was much better suited to multiple lynches.

Oh god I committed political suicide didn't I... :wall: :skull: :shame:

I'm going to go barney mugging with some floozy I met at Club 30 to get my mind off this.

edit: :laugh4: NOT

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Sunset Day Three

The committee session was eventful this day, with loads of accusations being thrown and evidence being unearthed. Even the normally aloof Director joined the fray, upset that his good friend pevergreen was killed.

However as the day drew to an end, the Director slipped out and the Director's squad brought the discussion to a close with a few good whacks of the gavel.

It took some time to get a count of the votes. Though the suave Director's re-election had been a virtual landslideas, the writing on the lynch ballots bore witness to the many changes in opinion during the day. Finally, the Director's men finished and called out not one but two names: CountArach and GeneralHankerchief. There was a tie!

Both men were handed business cards and ordered to proceed to the mysterious Club 30 immediately, while the Director's men began setting up the closed circuit feed.

GeneralHankerchief arrived promptly and saw the Director waiting outside the door of Club 30, wearing the same cream white suit he had been seen in during last evening's execution. The Director raised his hat to reveal a smirking and winking face. For a moment GeneralHankerchief was faced with many questions considering his sexuality, but he got over himself and dropped on the ground, begging: "I strongly suggest you not lynch me. In the return, you will see the total collapse of Askthepizzaguy's empire and maybe a mafia family or two farther along the line."

He continued, "If this doesn't sway you, as I suspect it won't, I at least request you have me die like a proper gentleman."

The Director tipped his hat back down and said nothing, GeneralHankerchief got the impression that he was waiting for the second condemned man, CountArach, who had not yet shown.

Thirty minutes passed and the Director began pacing around and looking at his watch, shooing off pretty women with a stern "later." Though his face remained hidden due to his tipped hat, his body language betrayed impatience.

Finally, CountArach approached the Director and a silently weeping GeneralHanckerchief with a sloppy gait.

"You're late," remarked the Director annoyedly. "Do you realize how many offers of barney-mugging I had to turn down?"

CountArach shrugged his shoulders. "Sorry, I got distracted by one of them street puppet shows. It was about some stranger who was worried about the Mafia so he hired a hit group to kill him and a posse to protect him."

"Let's go to the bathroom," said the Director, "I don't want to bother the ladies."

Both condemned men walked into the bathroom and the Director followed, locking the door behind him. The Director then reached into his breast pocket and pulled out a small candy wrapped in a gold foil.

GeneralHankerchief's eyes opened wide. "OH MY GOD!"

CountArach blurted out, spitting everywhere, "IS THAT A BUTTERSCOTCH?"

The Director, somewhat taken aback by the enthusiasm, replied "um, yes..." as he began to unwrap the treat. But it was not fast enough for the salivating CountArach who lunged at the Director's hand and made a grab for the candy. The Director, not wanting to be touched by the drooling maniac, jerked his hand away, causing the butterscotch to fly out of the wrapper and plop into the toilet. Wasting no time, CountArach dived head first into the toilet, frantically trying to get the butterscotch into his mouth. The Director looked on with amazement and disgust.

Evaluating the situation, he soon decided against simply waiting for the poison in the laced butterscotch to kill CountArach and took a more direct measure. The Director slammed the toilet seat on CountArach's neck and held it there with one hand, while the other hand started to repeatedly flush the toilet. This failed to deter CountArach from being able to scoop the candy with his tongue into his mouth. It was the best ****** butterscotch ever, well worth dying for.

A few minutes later, CountArach met his swirly demise though it was unclear whether he died of strangulation or drowning.

The Director was so fixated on CountArach that when he got up from the toilet, he turned to a see GeneralHankerchief, laying dead on the floor. Examining him more carefully, the Director saw the gold wrapper of the butterscotch lodged in GeneralHankerchief's throat. Perhaps he had choked, though the Director wondered whether the trace amounts of poison on the foil could have killed so fast.
The Director leaned down and looked at the dead GeneralHankerchief. Feeling a sense of pity, he reached into his breast pocket and pulled out another butterscotch. "You know I had one for you too..."

Getting up, the Director fixed his tie and left the bathroom. Before he left Club 30 he went to the bar and had a couple of drinks...


OOC (and Seamus himself this time)

Computer problems continuing, so lets have this next night phase run to 2200 Eastern on 8/14 (0200 GMT 8/15). Be sure to have things labeled "n3 orders" so I don't get lost.

Tally as noted.
Two lynchees, GH & CA.

Final Tally

1st place

CountArach: 21 (askthepizzaguy, Beskar, Craterus, Diana Abnoba, DisgruntledGoat, DJGingivtis, Double A, El Diablo, GeneralHankerchief, gibsonsg91921, johnhughthom, Jolt, Jooray, Lord Winter, Proletariat, Psychonaut, Sasaki Kojiro, shlin28, Sigurd, slashandburn, White_eyes:D)

1st place

GeneralHankerchief: 21 (A completely..., Andres, atheotes, Beefy187, Chaotix, CountArach, Discovery1, GSC, Ironside, Iskander3.1, Kagemusha, Kommodus, Kukrikhan, Myrddraal, ricera10, scottishranger, Split', Tincow, Tratorix, woad&fangs, YLC)

3rd place

woad&fangs: 1 (LittleGrizzly)
Saskai Kojiro: 1 (shinseikhaan)
askthepizzaguy: 1 (Joe Monks)
shlin28: 1 (Crazed Rabbit)

Others

abstain: 3 (AVSM, glyphz, Moros)


p.s. If one of our dear mods wants to edit the tally in here and then paste into the summary, I would appreciate it. I'm shutting off all extraneous and letting malwarebytes get to work.

[GeneralHankerchief]

:laugh4: :2thumbsup:

On a more serious note, your loss, everyone.

-edit- At work, terrible connection, no mouse. Can't edit in the tally at present.

[KukriKhan]

wow

[a completely inoffensive name]

"he soon decided against simply waiting for the poison in the laced butterscotch to kill CountArach and took a more direct measure"
Poisoned by Chinese candy, completely legal to buy in your local dollar store, this director is ingenious.

[Chaotix]

I lol'd. That is all.

[Splitpersonality]

I lol'd as well.

[naut]

~:eek:

[White_eyes:D]

Club 30 is the best place to die....:bounce:

[CountArach]

I'm not sure whether to be amused or humiliated.

[Beefy187]

And that's why Reenk should be the director. Even if his a mafia :laugh4:

[GeneralHankerchief]

I will note that our Director killed me in a non-gentlemanly way after I specifically requested that he do so. Dishonoring a man's last request is not very gentlemanly and unbecoming of a Director, funny or not. :no:

[FactionHeir]

I think you suicided. :yes:

[Myrddraal]

I can't help but feel a little bit that the Mafia are sitting back quite happy to support and watch that last round. Sure we lynched a special role of some kind as well as a wise guy, but we're not focussing on the real bad guys.

We have AVSM, a confirmed criminal, which makes him at least as wise guy but quite easily a Made or Luca.

We need to start hitting the mafia families. When next round comes around, Lynch the Criminals, Lynch AVSM!

[Joooray]

Very nice write-up, kudos to reenk. :laugh4:
But why did both died in the end, although you initially wanted to spare GH?

And also, am I the only one who found this passage to be quite interesting:



"You're late," remarked the Director annoyedly. "Do you realize how many offers of barney-mugging I had to turn down?"

CountArach shrugged his shoulders. "Sorry, I got distracted by one of them street puppet shows. It was about some stranger who was worried about the Mafia so he hired a hit group to kill him and a posse to protect him."


But then again, maybe everybody else except of me already knew that. :shrug:

[pevergreen]

Very nice write-up, kudos to reenk. :laugh4:
But why did both died in the end, although you initially wanted to spare GH?

And also, am I the only one who found this passage to be quite interesting:



But then again, maybe everybody else except of me already knew that. :shrug:

A person with the username "The Stranger" organised a hit and a protection on me last night, but the protect group had issues and failed, so I died.

He did it because I refused to work with him, as has been stated in thread..about 40000 posts back. :laugh4:

[Joooray]

A person with the username "The Stranger" organised a hit and a protection on me last night, but the protect group had issues and failed, so I died.

He did it because I refused to work with him, as has been stated in thread..about 40000 posts back. :laugh4:
Okay that sound familiar, sorry it's kinda hard to keep track of everything. :laugh4:

Though the write-up suggests that he organized it with himself being the target.

[TinCow]

I found an interesting PM in my inbox this morning. The sender claimed the following detective results are real:
Khazaar - criminal
gibsonsg91921 - guilty

[Moros]

I found an interesting PM in my inbox this morning. The sender claimed the following detective results are real:
Khazaar - criminal
gibsonsg91921 - guilty
Do you have any reason you can trust the person who send you this? It could as well be easy slander.

[naut]

Has Khazaar even voted?

[The Stranger]

A person with the username Pevergreen was just not so smart and refused to even talk to me... :P

when will the detective results confirm my townie role..

[DisgruntledGoat]

Didn't we already know Gibson was guilty? He participated in the vig kill of pever didn't he? Or am I mistaken. I just remember the name coming up during discussions of the pevergreen episode.

[johnhughthom]

A person with the username Pevergreen was just not so smart and refused to even talk to me... :P

when will the detective results confirm my townie role..

A mafia don hoping his "innocent" result will clear him?

[pevergreen]

A person with the username Pevergreen

Whos this Pevergreen bloke?

As for the 100% accurate autopsy, I believe it will be the day 4, so tomrrow is day 3, then morning of day 4.

its in the rules anyway.

edit: @john: Seamus posts autopsies of who died 3 nights or however long it is, previous. These are correct results, which you can take to the bank.

[johnhughthom]

edit: @john: Seamus posts autopsies of who died 3 nights or however long it is, previous. These are correct results, which you can take to the bank.

Ah, thanks for the clarification pevergreen.

[TinCow]

Do you have any reason you can trust the person who send you this? It could as well be easy slander.

No, I have no particular reason to trust the sender. However, neither gibson nor Khazaar have been playing any significant role in leading discussion or organization as far as I can tell. If it is slander, it's a strange choice of targets. If the motive was to cause ruin a reputation or distract the town, a better method would have been to send results on Reenk or ATPG or someone else who had been more vocal.

[Reenk Roink]

I didn't want to say anything earlier, because it was a very uncorroborated account, but early on in the game when I tried to merge two pro town groups together, gibson told me he knew DJGingivitis was guilty somehow but didn't elaborate (or was it vice versa, I don't have the exact PM).

I think it may be some kind of red text role thing, maybe even a rivalry. It wouldn't hurt to put them on the suspect list, but given the size of it, and the much better lynches on it (Atpg).

On the GH thing, I said I would spare GH because I didn't want to ruin the surprise for him. :laugh4:

[Sigurd]

I think it may be some kind of red text role thing, maybe even a rivalry. It wouldn't hurt to put them on the suspect list, but given the size of it, and the much better lynches on it (Atpg).

A much better lynch? This is not at all determined. We need more information about the CIA vs. Communist thing. Apparently the Communists were bad news and CountA and his goons refused to defend themselves.
We also need information on why ATPG decided to kill Yaropolk and not just give him over to the lynch mob?

Right now these issues have not been discussed and I agree with Myrddraal that the town should concentrate on the Mafia families. There are 5 of them and according to Capo III information, there are 4 (not 3 as I mistakenly mentioned earlier) in each family. If they have been successful in recruiting one new member - we are looking at nearly 36% mafia in this game. OR every third player is a Mafioso.
Let the CIA or FBI take care of the communists and let us deal with the Mafiosi.

[gibsonsg91921]

The reason I am guilty and the reason for my suspicions of DJ are the same: I was a pro-town vigilante involved in the attack against him. My group leader supplied the target and I complied; since DJ was town protected it seems more likely than not that he is on the level. But that's the cause of that.

[ricera10]

I have a feeling the climax of this story is going to happen soon. We get rid of a very vocal person, a suspect person, and have plans to eliminate another very vocal person. Who will continue the discussion?

Having 1/3 of the players potentially be part of a Mafia is very alarming.

[Joe Monks]

Sigurd WAIT WHAT?

4 People are mafia per family at the outset?

Joe

[TinCow]

I see nothing in the rules about 4 mafioso at the start. What I am reading indicates that at the start each family has 1 Don, 1 Luca, and 1 Made.

[Centurion1]

I thought the rules said there were only 3 mafia per family in the beginning.

[LittleGrizzly]

Im glad our most esteemed director decided to take both thier lives, he has certainly earned his re-selection!

I agree with Sigurd that we should concentrate on the mafia.... if there all little side groups hopefully they each have thier own direct enemy, communists vs CIA for example....

I might be available for some protection work.... no killing though!

[Double A]

Oh god... I've only read to page 23... and now I'm going to the beach till Monday... There's gonna be more words then than in an ASOIAF novel...

Uh... don't kill me?
Disregard that. It's gonna rain all weekend so I'm not going. Freaking precipitation.

[Chaotix]

I thought the rules said there were only 3 mafia per family in the beginning.

This is correct.

But by the end of Night 3, each mafia family potentially could have recruited a member. So, if you take 5 mafia families X 4, plus Wise Guys who have decided to form their own mafia families (a la Sasaki), plus "CountArach's Communists", plus any additional anti-town or serial killer roles we have, it winds up being about a third of the living players are mafia.

[LittleGrizzly]

How easy is recruitment going to be though ?

Anybody here mafia from previous capo ?

There seem to have been a lot of problems with orders going through perhaps the mafia could havew had similar difficulties that the town has experienced ?

[Double A]

Wow I just finished reading all that :dizzy2:

Right... so why is ATPG guilty?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Because he got an unusually large tip for delivering a single medium sized pizza. We think he is being paid off.

[Double A]

Weird, because every game I've been with him in he gets one of those no matter which side he's on.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Must be a **** good pizza then.

[Beskar]

Askthepizzaguy always gets flagged all the time. People just want to kill him for no reason and on a town point of view, if you want the town to win, and Pizza is on your side. Take him and hug him close as he delivers poison pizza to the Mafia.

[White_eyes:D]

Oh yeah, I forgot...FoS:Beskar
Mafia Rule #667 "Beskar is always suspicious":bounce:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think this really highlights how silly a talkative, accusatory strategy is in a game like this if you're a mafioso. I could just as easily be one of those several dozen players who've barely said a thing and gained no suspicion, instead I've tried to take down certain threats at great risk to myself. That's obviously scummy, of course. If I'm a mafioso I've banked the future of my family on two rounds of play with roughly 65 other players still left alive. That's 24 carat genius right there, and I'm adding it to my list of epic fail maneuvers.

[Lord Winter]

I'm going to be gone for the next day phase so please try not to lynch me. Thanks

[Chaotix]

I think this really highlights how silly a talkative, accusatory strategy is in a game like this if you're a mafioso. I could just as easily be one of those several dozen players who've barely said a thing and gained no suspicion, instead I've tried to take down certain threats at great risk to myself. That's obviously scummy, of course. If I'm a mafioso I've banked the future of my family on two rounds of play with roughly 65 other players still left alive. That's 24 carat genius right there, and I'm adding it to my list of epic fail maneuvers.

I will remember these words and throw them back at you during the next day phase.

:grin:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I will remember these words and throw them back at you during the next day phase.

:grin:

Care to explain that comment now?

[Chaotix]

Care to explain that comment now?

Not really.

[Beskar]

He is going to get you night killed, Pizza.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am making this public, because I don't have anything to hide and I will die soon.

I was responsible for taking down Yaropolk. As such, my results will now read "criminal". I don't care who knows this, town can eliminate me at their convenience.

You wouldn't be referring to this, would you? Or did you miss it? I'm not sure how it is helpful to the town for you to avoid making a pointed accusation. If you have something on me, state it so everyone can hear. Let the whole world know the goods you think you have on me.

Another thing, I'd like to know who is spreading rumors everywhere throughout my protection groups. Nearly a dozen people have contacted me telling me they've heard evil and scary things, and now they aren't sure about me. Thank you very much, because now, maybe people won't send in their protection orders and more people will die.

Is it so much to ask to face my accuser, or at least hear the accusation? Please? At least I do the people I accuse the decency of making a full case in public against them to refute. Please and thank you, or don't bother flinging vague threats at me.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I will have him night killed if he doesn't get here in 30 min like he promised.

[Beskar]

I will state a new rule. Anyone who wants Pizzaguy dead is working against a Town Victory.

As such, making any slanderous pizza comments is the same as declaring "I am a Mafia, lynch me!" and as such, can be used against you in a Court of Lynch.

Good day.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I will state a new rule as well. All of ACIN's rules over ride Beskar's.

My second rule is that any one attempting to silence vocal opposition against another player or attempting to prevent others from making bad pizza jokes and puns should have a permanent finger of suspicion on them.

[White_eyes:D]

Beskar is always suspicious anyway..:shrug:

Pizzaguy....the main reason no one trusts you..is because your more willing to go Mafia then most:juggle2:

I even recall one time you told me "it's boring not to"..:laugh4:

In a game like this...this is how you must be thinking:thinking:https://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x105/john_d_corr/LOLCats%20I%20created/darkside.jpg

[Beskar]

I will state a new rule as well. All of ACIN's rules over ride Beskar's.

My second rule is that any one attempting to silence vocal opposition against another player or attempting to prevent others from making bad pizza jokes and puns should have a permanent finger of suspicion on them.

That is a lie, I am not preventing making bad pizza jokes and puns at all!

[a completely inoffensive name]

That is a lie, I am not preventing making bad pizza jokes and puns at all!


I will state a new rule. Anyone who wants Pizzaguy dead is working against a Town Victory.

As such, making any slanderous pizza comments is the same as declaring "I am a Mafia, lynch me!" and as such, can be used against you in a Court of Lynch.

Good day.

Maybe next time you should think of all possible meanings a person could derive from your statements before you post.

I say good day, sir.

[Sigurd]

I see nothing in the rules about 4 mafioso at the start. What I am reading indicates that at the start each family has 1 Don, 1 Luca, and 1 Made.

Sorry... We can take the alert down a notch. I mistakenly read :


A Made is one of the two initial “Made” gangsters in a crime family.
for there being two mades in each family.
But then I missed this:


A Luca is one of the two initial “Made” gangsters in a crime family.
Which means - the set-up is the same as last game.

But there is still a lot of Mafiosi in this game: 5x3 = 15 + 1 recruit each = 20. 20 players of 68 total is 29% (assuming we haven't lynched any Mafiosi yet and one hasn't been killed).

The result on FactionHeir should be interesting. Shouldn't those autopsies start ticking in soon?

[Askthepizzaguy]

A man in a large trenchcoat and a rather out of place cap, of a type rarely seen in sophisticated circles such as these, steps forward from the crowd. "My name is Arach Dhaugazvili,"


Ugh, I hate Georgians. What are you, Stalin's nephew?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vissarion_Jughashvili

Besarion Jughashvili (Georgian: ბესარიონ ჯუღაშვილი; Russian: Виссарион Иванович Джугашвили;) (born ca. 1850 – August 25, 1909) was Joseph Stalin's father. His surname means son of Juga, and is derived from either the Ossetian Juga (of unknown meaning) or the Georgian for 'herd' djogi.[1]

What name did CountArach claim right at the beginning of the game? Dhaugazvili. What did Yaropolk respond with? Stalin.

Right before he died, CountArach asked for votes from his fellow comrades, and NEVER refuted my case against him. I didn't even notice the Dhaugazvili connection, I only noticed the name Stalin. But come on, people... WHAT ELSE could the name Dhaugazvili possibly mean?

Go ahead and lynch me. I double dog dare you. Lose the game. I don't care.

And all you people slandering my name in private, your days are numbered. Traitors to Fatlington, the entire lot of you. Step up and make your case so the whole world can see. Declare your intentions. Stop hiding like a scumbag.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If you won't step forward and state your allegations, I will state them for you.


ATPG is forming his own mafia with Diana, beskar, double A, and skooma. He admitted to me to be using GH for his own personal needs and planned to get him lynched later when GH was not of use. I have heard other suspicions of this as well. TS said on the first day that Diana planned to go mafia and that beskar was a wiseguy. This being said ATPG is NOT to be trusted and GH was just being used. I do not think GH is at all related to this mafia forming. I had a small chat with him before the game started and he said that his status from last game and just overall would get him targeted early. I do not think that he would risk himself so soon. Please feel free to repost this but I am wary to post it in thread. PLease do not quote my name either if you do. But someone else should know.

Step right up. You want to bring down one of town's best roles, you go darn well right ahead with that. I am not going to sit back and take this.

[Beskar]

If I am honest, I was planning to do 4 protections and become a detective, which is a town role. The so-called Mafia is nothing more than a Townie Information Network.

I will be even more honest, I been approached by two different Mafia's, and they both wanted me to do night orders, killing AskthePizzaGuy as proof of loyalty. Why are the Mafia so obsessed with getting rid of AskthePizzaGuy? The fact is, I know what role he is, and he is a town, so is Diana, and I was going Town myself as I openly stated to him what my role was and my interests.

So as I said, anyone is who speaking against AskthePizzaGuy is a Mafia dog who needs to be slaughtered. Report anyone spreading this to the town, in here and let's get lynching these Mafia dogs.

[Reenk Roink]

The only question that remains is, is anyone going to join Atpg when he visits Club 30 tomorrow? :wink:

[Beskar]

I like you openly state your Mafia affiliation like that, Reenk.

[White_eyes:D]

I like you openly state your Mafia affiliation like that, Reenk.

Yeah, ATPG is good and everyone who is against him is Mafia...that's some good reasoning Beskar...Good job:2thumbsup:...now we just need to lynch everyone who voiced suspicion of him and we win a townie victory:clown:

[Askthepizzaguy]

How about we let the mafia take care of me, Reenk, and actually kill some scums instead? I dunno... crazy idea, right?

I'll get you a scumbag's name every single round. So long as I live, one of them will die. How's that for a campaign slogan? Beats the heck out of funny writeups.

[Beskar]

White_Eyes:D, isn't that your logic. :smash:

But seriously, AskthePizzaGuy is good town role. I don't care if I get killed, after all, at least there is the taint about me, but if you want a town victory, then Pizza is the way to go. He has rooted out a lot of the Mafia as it is, and it is why they are all after him.

Reenk is certain on killing him because he is actually a Mafia. So I would actually suggest on Reenk being lynched next round. He also went through a non-playing player to get me to turn against AskthePizzaGuy and to try to get me night kill him, which would put me on the dark path of being a Mafia, and to get rid of his biggest threat.

[Reenk Roink]

How about we let the mafia take care of me, Reenk, and actually kill some scums instead? I dunno... crazy idea, right?

Not my decision. :laugh4: Rage against the rest of the town you've alienated badly with your scummy playing (whether you are scum or not). :rolleyes:


I'll get you a scumbag's name every single round. So long as I live, one of them will die. How's that for a campaign slogan? Beats the heck out of funny writeups.

Yeah you need to work on your persuasion then. :laugh4: Beauty of Capo ain't it? GH and you would have (and are) obliterated each other, and the town enjoys the victory! :2thumbsup:


He also went through a non-playing player to get me to turn against AskthePizzaGuy and to try to get me night kill him, which would put me on the dark path of being a Mafia, and to get rid of his biggest threat.

And I thought Atpg's recent posts couldn't be beaten... :laugh4:

[Centurion1]

Beskar why is your defense of atpg so ardent.......

That is very suspicious to me.

FOS Beskar ATPG

[Beskar]

Maybe because I am interested in getting rid of the mafia? Then again, with the apparently 33% of the game Mafia, your objection could be Mafia supported. I am so confident about my accusations, get rid of Reenk Roink, and you can take me without an objection from myself.

If I am a Mafia, this would obviously be a blow to them. In other wards, you get rid of one, however, I am not, but I know where one is. The famous saying is "a town/pro-town is worth killing a Mafia for", so honour my request then you can take me out afterwards as payment, so at least in the town eyes, one Mafia is gone.

[johnhughthom]

I'll get you a scumbag's name every single round. So long as I live, one of them will die. How's that for a campaign slogan? Beats the heck out of funny writeups.

So you get to live a bit longer, and weed out the other mafia families while youre at it?:laugh4:

[Double A]

If you won't step forward and state your allegations, I will state them for you.



Step right up. You want to bring down one of town's best roles, you go darn well right ahead with that. I am not going to sit back and take this.

What the :daisy: ? Why would I be involved if that was even true?

Ok so I agree with ATPG and whoever else that we should go after the mafia first, and then the probable KGB/bad Russian club. Let the CIA and/or/maybe Whites handle them.

Remember the no swearing rule in the gameroom guys - Sigurd

[johnhughthom]

Let the CIA and/or/maybe Whites handle them.

Who?

[Double A]

I have not spoke enough it seems, but in anyway, allow me to clear somethings up.

If we are dealing with Russians of a less favorable sort, we must also remember that Russia is not all communist - some are Bolshevik, Red, some are Menshevik, White. I must also state that the Stranger's kill was obviously not performed with ill intent, as can be seen if one reads it properly, and I thought we established that the kill was done by a single person, not a family or group? There is also the reference to French, and a mosin-nagant, indications of Imperial Russia, which are more White, or pro-monarchist and pro-provisional supporters.

Please, take more thought into consideration.

More information to hgelp those of the committee.

"During World War I, some anti-war mensheviks had formed a group called Menshevik-internationalists (меньшевики-интернационалисты). They opposed war and 'social chauvinism', were active around the newspaper Novaya Zhizn and took part in the Mezhraiontsy formation. After July 1917 events in Russia, they broke with Menshevik majority that supported war. The mensheviks-internationalists became the hub of the Russian Social Democratic Workers' Party (of internationalists) (РСДРП (интернационалистов)). In 1920, right-wing mensheviks-internationalists emigrated, some of them pursued anti-bolshevik activities.[1]

The Democratic Republic of Georgia was a stronghold of the Mensheviks. In parliamentary elections held on February 14, 1919 they won 81.5 percent of the votes, and the Menshevik leader Noe Zhordania became Prime minister."

It's somewhere in this post and in the ones near it.

[johnhughthom]

I know who they are/were, you just seem to believe that at least one of the CIA/Whites groups exist. I was curious as to how you knew this, it hasn't been confirmed anywhere, has it?

[Double A]

No, but neither has the KGB but they seam to exist.

[KukriKhan]

No, but neither has the KGB but they seam to exist.

Said the Tailor to the Spy. :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

I wanna thank you fellas for the last 10 pages. Best Capo ever!

Analysis will follow after a few beers.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Just up and running this past 20 minutes or so -- computer problems earlier now fixed, work stuff done, dinner with family etc. concluded.

I'll take night orders up to 11pm Eastern or so as I process stuff. After that, however, I will move on with the writeup.

[KukriKhan]

Thanks for your Herculean effort Seamus. You give us much joy.

[Double A]

Oh goody I'll be up to watch the fireworks.

[Askthepizzaguy]

discovery1 is a Luca, according to someone who claims 100% investigation ability.

Edit/correction: Miscommunication, they didn't say 100%, they just said Luca.

[Double A]

That sorta explains his not posting.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Especially when he was reading the thread. He could have dropped a hello.

edit: previous post has a correction.

[Double A]

Yeah well that really doesn't help his case.

[Chaotix]

It seems the scum has hit the fan... this write-up will be interesting, for sure...

[LittleGrizzly]

I think we should see what pizzas results give us before we start killing people off....

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Orders were closed out at 1100 Eastern. Writeup in progress and out soon, I hope.

[Double A]

It seems the scum has hit the fan... this write-up will be interesting, for sure...

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/popcorn.gif

[Chaotix]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/popcorn.gif

Is that a TWC smiley?? Where are you getting these from?

:laugh4:

[scottishranger]

Definetly a TWC smiley.

One of my favorites.

[Double A]

Is that a TWC smiley?? Where are you getting these from?

:laugh4:

Why I'm getting them of TWC of course. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emot_vhappy.gif

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why I'm getting them of TWC of course. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emot_vhappy.gif

If you reply with quote to his post, you can steal the images for yourself and add them to a document for easy reference.

[KukriKhan]

How nice: TWC has come bearing gifts.

[seireikhaan]

How nice: TWC has come bearing gifts.
Perhaps we should offer some "blankets" in return? :smartass:

[scottishranger]

How nice: TWC has come bearing gifts.

We only desire peace. We swear

[discovery1]

discovery1 is a Luca, according to someone who claims 100% investigation ability.

Edit/correction: Miscommunication, they didn't say 100%, they just said Luca.


Uh huh.

[Double A]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/eekout.gif

[johnhughthom]

We only desire peace. We swear

Yeah right, coming here with your fancy smilies, acting like you own the place. We know all about your mafia games over there, with your sick fixation on cats.

[pevergreen]

And pizza guys.

Euggh. :sick:

[Seamus Fermanagh]

bad chance and circumstance
left the hollow ache
of sweet loneliness
and sour frustration
thanks for everything
thanks for everything
my one regret
the missing layer
of our failed protection
of our missed connections
take up a collection
a new army of salvation
of the leftovers and extras
of that longlost harvest season
of sweet loneliness
and sour frustration
thanks for everything
thanks for everything

-- Dirtminers (R.Worrick) “Sweet Loneliness”


Summary of Events, Night Three


Had things gone according to plan, Myrddraal would have been heading out of town already on a week-long trip. Fatlington’s closure and the return of the Committee had put a stop to all that. He wasn’t happy about it, but was grimly determined to see things through.

As he pulled carefully into traffic, Myrddraal was careful not to get himself into a situation where he could be sandwiched – he and Death is Yonder hadn’t really been close, but Myrddraal was the type of person who tried to learn from mistakes – especially other people’s. When the car in front of him slammed on its brakes, Eyeless had enough space to swerve into the oncoming lanes. One quick bootleg turn later and he was zipping back toward the Convention Center and looking in his rearview at the other car heading off the wrong direction.

He never expected the panel truck he was now following to be the real source of his trouble…until the back doors popped open to reveal a couple of trench-coated Johnny gunners. Long stereophonic bursts stamp paid to Myrddraal’s windshield, radiator, and any hope he had of controlling the vehicle. He was knocked out when the car collided with a telephone pole, bringing it to a complete stop. He never felt the single bullet administered as a coup-de-grace by the first killer, nor could he have seen the single long-stemmed yellow rose tucked gently under the windshield wiper by the second.


When Lord Winter saw the circle on the sidewalk in front of him, he stopped cold. Predicting his route wouldn’t have been a challenge – he stopped at the same coffee shop more nights than not on his way back to his brownstone – but he had no idea what this contraption could be.

A circle of golden sand six feet across lay in the middle of the sidewalk – oddly dry when compared to the puddles and ice scuts that marked most of the rest of the walkway. In the very middle of the circle was a dullish grey metal spike about 3 feet in height. Hanging above it was a weather balloon, distorted in shape as though it were filled with some heavy liquid or with sand.

In Fatlington, when you encountered the unusual, you prayed quickly to whatever God or gods you might still believe in and went for your gun. Winter had barely cleared his weapon when a flash of silver – the swift blade of a kunai – knocked it from his hands.

“No, no guns please.”

Winter stared at the dark figure at the far side of the circle, arm throbbing from the impact of the kunai on his colt, concentrating on not making any sudden moves.

“That was Curio’s, but it somehow didn’t get used in all the hustle and bustle.”

Lord Winter looked carefully at the second kunai held poised in the dark figure’s hand.

“And that’s mine?”

The figure stepped back a couple of steps. As he did so, and left the partial cover of the distended balloon, it was apparent that he was dressed in a long gloss-black leather trenchcoat that gleamed wherever light hit it, collar pulled way up and a black hat pulled low over his face. The only color relieving this was a small splash of reddish purple just above the brim of the fedora. Incongruously, the dark figure wore dark sunglasses that obscured what little of his face wasn’t covered by hat or coat.

“You get a gold star. By the way, why aren’t you wearing sunglasses?”

The man’s hand snapped forward in a blur, releasing the kunai as Winter dropped to one knee and went for his holdout weapon. The kunai went true, neatly severing the cable holding up the balloon and dropping it on the spike. The balloon burst, showering the golden powder which instantly combusted. This in turn ignited the magnesium in the metal spike producing a blinding actinic glare.

Winter had been far enough from the flash of fire to avoid being burned, but the glare of the burning magnesium was too much for his eyes. He never saw the dark figure make his escape as the throbbing after-image of the magnesium spike blotting out his vision. It would be mid-afternoon of the next day before he would see more than the vaguest of shapes.


Double A was heading for his car when the attack came. A quartet of Tommy gunners opened up from behind him and from across the street when he was only 30 feet or so from his car. Just as the gunmen behind him opened up, the thick door of a cab was opened immediately behind him, absorbing the shots that would have hammered into his back.

AA ducked low, using the car behind his as cover from the gunners across the street. His car was armored for protection – this was Fatlington after all – and he’d make it if he could get there. As he reached the side of his car, both of the Tommy gunners chasing him from behind made it around the outstretched – and obviously armored -- door of the now empty cab. Both of them were tackled by a masked figure hurtling out of the alleyway between two of the buildings, knocking their guns under the cab.

It was not enough. The remaining pair of Tommy gunners, unmolested, managed to get around the front and back of Double A’s armored car just before he could get the special lock open. Both yanked on their triggers almost in unison to release a hail of…nothing. Both bolts had jammed at exactly the same instant – defying all the odds in the book. The four assailants and the masked man fled in different directions as Double A pulled the 10-gauge pumper from his passenger seat. It would be hours before his pulse calmed enough for sleep.


Beskar had been varying his routes home since the troubles began. Tonight it was along the boardwalk, past the Hotel Abbatoir, and then a couple quick blocks to his apartment. He moved warily, ready for some threat, so when he saw the glint of metal on the roof of the beach bungalow a block ahead he dropped instantly.

The shot cracked through the air, head-high, where he would have been only a half-second previously. The second shot came from behind and nearly took him out. Beskar managed to turn his drop into a roll and kept going sideways just enough for the second shooter to miss. He kept rolling off the side of the boardwalk, dropping to the sand 7 feet down.

Instead of 7 feet it was 15 feet to the bottom of the watery hole that had been prepared for him. The two gunmen had been nothing more than the distraction. The third shooter could simply walk out from the shadows under the boardwalk and dispose of Beskar as neatly as shooting the proverbial duck swimming in a barrel. Nobody ever came. With police sirens coming closer to investigate the shots, both shooters simply faded into the night.

It took Beskar quite a while to work his way out of the two feet of sand and water at the bottom of the hole, even with the help of some of Fatlington’s finest. He was soaked and thoroughly miserable when the officers dropped him off at his apartment.


Morning Session, Beginning of Day 4

Reenk sat at the head table almost insolently, both feet up on the table and his fedora low over his eyes. Fermanagh wondered if he actually had heard a little light snoring coming from the director as he concluded his briefing.

“…anyway, that’s the best we can reconstruct the events of last night. Now, I also have the results of our first post-mortem investigations.”

“Both Quintus.JC and The Stranger were exactly what you’d have expected, just normal everyday Fatlings. We weren’t able to turn up any rumors of mafia involvement or anything else that seemed out of order. It appears we lost two good citizens that night.”

Fermanagh paused and wiped his brow.

“You’ve got to keep up your efforts folks, or Fatlington is doomed.”

“If you’re quite finished Commissioner?” Asked Reenk.

“Yes, Ree…er…Director. It’s your show now.”

“Of course,” Roink responded, in a tone that Fermanagh had announced something as obvious as that the sun sets in the West. Reenk shook his head ever so slightly. “Well, that’s a relief. I have to get down to Club30 and see to things with the day staff. Ever stop by the club, Fermanagh?”

“Well no. You see the cover charge is a little…”

“Yes, of course,” Reenk paused a moment. “and your wardrobe lacks a certain…pinache.”

Reenk then ignored the sputtering Fermanagh as he turned to the committee to remind them of the procedures for today’s lynch vote.


OOC

I’ve got family commitments tomorrow evening, so we’ll make the vote deadline 1300 Eastern on Sunday (1700 GMT). Remember to follow the procedures and get your vote counted. Lynch only on Day 4.

Investigation results and success/failure notifications will follow as quickly as possible, but not tonight as it’s late and I want to sleep. Selfish of me, but there it is.



The Cost of Life in Fatlington:

Attacked: Beefy187 (n1), DJGingivtis (n2), GSC (n2), Beskar (n3), Double A (n3), Lord Winter (n3),

Killed: Quintus.JC (n1), The Stranger (n1), Death is Yonder (n2), pevergreen (n2), Yaropolk (n2), Myrddraal (n3),

Lynched: Factionheir (d2), CountArach (d3), GeneralHankerchief (d3),

Wogged: None so far, so get active and keep it that way.

[Double A]

Holy :daisy: that was close...

[johnhughthom]

Holy :daisy: that was close...

Language young man.

[Beskar]

Please delete. :embarrassed:

[Double A]

Yeah well why do I feel like you would do the same thing if you were targeted and survived?

There's no way I'm gonna be able to sleep tonight after that.

[johnhughthom]

Vote:Beskar

Can't even post in the correct thread. :rolleyes:

[Beskar]

Vote:Beskar

Can't even post in the correct thread. :rolleyes:

Couldn't finish me off at night, now you want to kill me now, Mafia? :no:

[seireikhaan]

YES, I MOVED THE POST SUCESSFULLY!


*i'll be back to accuse when i'm not smashed...

[Kommodus]

discovery1 is a Luca, according to someone who claims 100% investigation ability.Uh huh.

Well OK then.

Vote: discovery1

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote:Disco

https://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2401/bandwagonk.jpg


Double A needs to be looked at as well, have to wonder why he survived that. High chance of being a Don.

[Beskar]

Vote: discovery1

Also, not sure if this is the selecting round, but if so: Select: AskthePizzaGuy

[Double A]

Look a little closer at the write up. I doubt mafia can do that without killing the attackers and sending their privates to their relatives.

[atheotes]

Double A was heading for his car when the attack came. A quartet of Tommy gunners opened up from behind him and from across the street when he was only 30 feet or so from his car. Just as the gunmen behind him opened up, the thick door of a cab was opened immediately behind him, absorbing the shots that would have hammered into his back.

AA ducked low, using the car behind his as cover from the gunners across the street. His car was armored for protection – this was Fatlington after all – and he’d make it if he could get there. As he reached the side of his car, both of the Tommy gunners chasing him from behind made it around the outstretched – and obviously armored -- door of the now empty cab. Both of them were tackled by a masked figure hurtling out of the alleyway between two of the buildings, knocking their guns under the cab.

It was not enough. The remaining pair of Tommy gunners, unmolested, managed to get around the front and back of Double A’s armored car just before he could get the special lock open. Both yanked on their triggers almost in unison to release a hail of…nothing. Both bolts had jammed at exactly the same instant – defying all the odds in the book. The four assailants and the masked man fled in different directions as Double A pulled the 10-gauge pumper from his passenger seat. It would be hours before his pulse calmed enough for sleep.



Another vigilante group? :wall:

But the more important question might be who saved Double A... :inquisitive:

[Double A]

I think Seamus said this round was only vote.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I know who saved both Double A and Beskar. Many thanks to all my protection volunteers. :bow:

It's not a selection round; Reenk is the Director.

[Double A]

Another vigilante group? :wall:

But the more important question might be who saved Double A... :inquisitive:


Who wouldn't? :beam:

[seireikhaan]

Oh heck with it.

Question, pizza. You seemed awfully insistent that the town not lynch you. Awfully confident that the mafia would kill you. Very, very confident, as a matter of fact.

Almost as confident as you were that the town would lynch you when we talked in private:


Well, you must understand my suspicion of you when you've made posts like this (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2240028&postcount=1963) before:

Yes, I know.

I ended up getting the unaffiliated wiseguy role this game, and I pondered joining a mafia family. After messaging a dozen people, I kept encountering townie after townie and more than a few wiseguys who were considering going the mafia route.

Well that's just perfect, because I know I am an early investigation target, and in a game with what might end up being 10 mafia families, I have zero chance of survival. The only way I could possibly end up on the winning side is to be a dead townie.

I bullied, begged, and prodded all the people on the fence that I could to commit themselves to the townie cause before I exposed them to the town. Too many of them admitted they were thinking about being mafia, so I have a few of them by the groin.

It appears we can even tell who was protecting people successfully, due to Seamus' writeup. That's at least... something. Plus, more people protected means less people dying, and more doctors.



And though I'm flattered by your offer, I believe you know my stance on large 'pro-town' groups. I've got a few people I'm cajoling with to figure out what're doing, but I think the best approach is going to be going back to the thread(assuming people get over this abstain binge).

Oh, and remember- Seamus waits about three turns or so before revealing the alignment of the deceased. Not sure if you'll live long enough to find out FactionHeir's.I know. I made my bed, and now I'm going to be sleeping with the fishes. My hopes now rest on the town's success.

And this, of course:


I assume you have a group protecting yourself, no?

What's the point? Very shortly I'll be a lynch target. Wasted lynch, and of course, wasting people protecting me is wasted protection groups.
Just a few days ago, you were quite willing to accept the consequences of your actions and let the town lynch you. You claimed to not have even have protection despite being a ringleader of a veritable three ring circus, which is, of course, absurd. You claim that you have a vast number of protection rings going, and yet you wouldn't have yourself protected? Sending such information to people at night is of course nothing but obvious bait, and given your insistence that the town would lynch you, you really were trying to make me decide not to kill you in the event got an itchy trigger finger.

And now, you have claimed a non-100% investigation has found disco a luca. Just before the day phase has begun, when you would have had said results for quite some time. You claim you are mafia bait, and that the town should not lynch you, and you even offered a last second alternative. Not long after claiming to a stranger(me) that you are town bait, and baiting me to kill you on top of it. You make these moans about "woe is me, for I will be a persecuted hero", and yet, you have only just come under fire because of GH. You have made facades of anguished acceptance of your fate to different audiences, and yet, when pieced together, show an entirely different picture that you are very much desperate to keep alive.

Time for you to die, scum. Vote: Askthepizzaguy

And, of course, if you don't think there won't be three different mafia gangs all over an enemy's luca, you are quite mistaken.

[atheotes]

I know who saved both Double A and Beskar. Many thanks to all my protection volunteers. :bow:

It's not a selection round; Reenk is the Director.

I thought we can deduce from the write up the type of kill and protection...

Myrddraal death is by mafia with rose as calling card...
Attempt at Beskar seems like.... 3 wiseguys??? :inquisitive:
attempt at Lord Winter - i dont understand what happened...probably need to sleep :dizzy2:

[Double A]

@Khaan and everyone else who is going to try to lynch ATPG: Ok this post isn't defensive no matter how it seems, I'm just using common sense. Ok.

Why would you want ATPG dead? If all 5 or more families want someone dead, isn't that a good thing for the town? ATPG is dangerous to the mafia and they know it. Sending him to Club 30 would be a really bad idea, plus he's trying to become a townie apparently. So what's the point in voting for a non-scum when there are scummier (yet largely unidentified) targets that are still on the loose?

Ok maybe it was defensive, but my point still stands.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hi Shinseikhaan! :bow:

So let me get this straight: You're voting for me because I predicted that the town would be voting for me soon, and that was somehow wrong, so now you're voting for me.

I'm afraid I do not follow your logic.

[Double A]

I thought we can deduce from the write up the type of kill and protection...

Myrddraal death is by mafia with rose as calling card...
Attempt at Beskar seems like.... 3 wiseguys??? :inquisitive:
attempt at Lord Winter - i dont understand what happened...probably need to sleep :dizzy2:

It seems likely that it was the mafia, since they think he'd try to protect ATPG during the night. Which is likely why they would try to kill me since I've done noting big for the town or tried to harm it in any way.

[seireikhaan]

Hi Shinseikhaan! :bow:

So let me get this straight: You're voting for me because I predicted that the town would be voting for me soon, and that was somehow wrong, so now you're voting for me.

I'm afraid I do not follow your logic.
No. I am voting for you for being a two faced person of highly dubious intent, who has been attempting to both keep the "private" fellers from going after you, and the "public" fellers from going after you, by using the same excuse that the other is going to kill you. Which means, of course, you really are quite intent upon staying alive. Plus, you started as a wiseguy and have one recorded kill, at the least.

[discovery1]

https://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2401/bandwagonk.jpg


So close. Anyone still have that bandwagon smilie?

[a completely inoffensive name]

I smell something fishy. Although it's probably the salmon I just ate.

[Askthepizzaguy]

No. I am voting for you for being a slithering, two faced critter, who has been attempting to both keep the "private" fellers from going after you, and the "public" fellers from going after you, by using the same excuse that the other is going to kill you.

Uh.... wow. Khaan.... can I ask you a real serious question?

Are you blaming me for trying to prevent myself from being lynched or murdered? :inquisitive:

Seriously... I don't understand how that's automatically a scummy or incorrect move in a game of mafia.


Which means, of course, you really are quite intent upon staying alive.

What a crime.


Plus, you started as a wiseguy and have one recorded kill, at the least.

Yeah, and the bit about me being a wiseguy was a big fat lie too. I believe this is old news.

Are you offended I didn't blurt out my real role to you right away, especially when YOU don't trust townie information networks? Come on man, it's a page right out of your own playbook.

Lynch me all you want, but your reasoning could stand a little more... reasoning.

By the way, I was investigated by the FBI last night. I'm waiting for them to come forward and decry me as being anti-Fatlington. I'm sure you'll be surprised when it... doesn't happen.


*i'll be back to accuse when i'm not smashed...

Take a breather.

[Beskar]

@Khaan and everyone else who is going to try to lynch ATPG: Ok this post isn't defensive no matter how it seems, I'm just using common sense. Ok.

Why would you want ATPG dead? If all 5 or more families want someone dead, isn't that a good thing for the town? ATPG is dangerous to the mafia and they know it. Sending him to Club 30 would be a really bad idea, plus he's trying to become a townie apparently. So what's the point in voting for a non-scum when there are scummier (yet largely unidentified) targets that are still on the loose?

Ok maybe it was defensive, but my point still stands.

Exactly.

[seireikhaan]

Uh.... wow. Khaan.... can I ask you a real serious question?

Are you blaming me for trying to prevent myself from being lynched or murdered? :inquisitive:

Seriously... I don't understand how that's automatically a scummy or incorrect move in a game of mafia.
No, I blame you for trying so darn hard at it. The pure amount of deception you're attempting to employ is non-sensical for a townspersont o employ. After all, if you were really trying to be a town force, you wouldn't *care* much about the lynch. You can still contribute. Granted, the autopsy wouldn't be kind, what with you killing people, but you could still maintain a reasonable level of trust.


What a crime.
Not a crime, per se, but quite suspicious.

Yeah, and the bit about me being a wiseguy was a big fat lie too. I believe this is old news.

Are you offended I didn't blurt out my real role to you right away, especially when YOU don't trust townie information networks? Come on man, it's a page right out of your own playbook.
Not old news to me, actually, about your role. Its precisely because I don't trust these networks that I didn't know this, I guess. And the fact that you're pulling pages out of my book(?) is quite disturbing.


Lynch me all you want, but your reasoning could stand a little more... reasoning.
Again with this stuff. No, this lynch would not stand if you could do anything to stop it. Feigning this stuff really is quite irritating. You've already admitted you have done anything and everything to avoid being lynched, so please drop this tiresome act.


By the way, I was investigated by the FBI last night. I'm waiting for them to come forward and decry me as being anti-Fatlington. I'm sure you'll be surprised when it... doesn't happen.
Again, you have killed a person. I have sincere doubts about your claim that you will appear innocent.


Take a breather.
That was unnecessarily demeaning.

[Askthepizzaguy]

That was unnecessarily demeaning.

Sorry, Khaan, you're my friend and I don't want to make this personal.

But you did just call me a "slithering, two faced critter"... and that's not necessary. The shot back was well deserved in this case. I apologize, but that's how I feel.

[seireikhaan]

Sorry, Khaan, you're my friend and I don't want to make this personal.

But you did just call me a "slithering, two faced critter"... and that's not necessary. The shot back was well deserved in this case. I apologize, but that's how I feel.
Ah, I suppose you're correct. I'll edit it.

*point stands, however :wink:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm lying in a game of mafia, though... it's most of the point... it's not something one can accuse me of and not have that same finger pointed back at themselves.

And I lied because I do have an important role, and I am obligated to do whatever I can to protect it. If that earns me your vote, that's OK, but it isn't proof of scum.

[Tratorix]

Vote: abstain I'm going to miss most of this day phase due to RL, so I don't really want to commit my vote if I won't be around.

[naut]

Vote: abstain

Pending certain results.

[Double A]

Ah, I suppose you're correct. I'll edit it.

*point stands, however :wink:

So does mine. Snap whose idea was it to make mafia games so complicated anyway?

[seireikhaan]

So does mine. Jez whose idea was it to make mafia games so complicated anyway?
Very well, I'll kindly knock it down.

First, we do not know all the mafia families and their plans. If so, they would be severely boned. By saying "the mafia" wants personA dead, its an inference from some contacts. And since all the mafia families are gunning for each other as well as the town, 4 mafia families would want the fifth don dead, and that certainly would not make him a town force because of that.

And, of course, nearly anyone can potentially become a part of an emergent mafia family, and said family would be problematic for the original families.

Either way, "the mafia" wanting pizza dead is no indicator of his innocence. Plus, this whole thing is a bit moot, since he's never been attacked anyways.

[Double A]

...

Dang.

[seireikhaan]

Sorry for the double post of sorts, but this is important stuff:

Disco, I command thee- BANDWAGON ASKTHEPIZZAGUY!
https://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x246/greaterkhaan/924.gif
Double the bandwagon power:
https://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x246/greaterkhaan/466.gif

[Double A]

Your moving images are no match for me! And that's a bus http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/tongue.gif

vote: Abstain since there's no clear lynch. And stuff.

[ULC]

Vote: Disco

I honestly hope you are right ATPG.

[Xehh II]

Vote: Abstain All this horribly confusing, I'll have to wait for things to clear up before I can vote properly

[Crazed Rabbit]

I know who saved both Double A and Beskar. Many thanks to all my protection volunteers. :bow:

It's not a selection round; Reenk is the Director.

Nobody saved either. If you had a group of three 'protecting' each, it seems only one out of six people showed up;
For Double A;

Both of them were tackled by a masked figure hurtling out of the alleyway between two of the buildings, knocking their guns under the cab.

It was not enough. The remaining pair of Tommy gunners, unmolested, managed to get around the front and back of Double A’s armored car just before he could get the special lock open. Both yanked on their triggers almost in unison to release a hail of…nothing. Both bolts had jammed at exactly the same instant – defying all the odds in the book.
Only one person acted to defend Double A. And Double A still would have died if not for the extraordinary luck he had - both of the shooters' guns jamming at the same time.

As for Beskar, nobody showed up to save him. He survived because the third shooter simply didn't show up.

That means five (5) of your 'volunteers' did not show up.

So I think I'm gonna vote:Askthepizzaguy.

Why don't you let us know who those 'defenders' are?

CR

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why don't you let us know who those 'defenders' are?

CR

I think I'll wait for the night results to come back before I automatically accept your interpretation of the writeup, though it does seem to support your argument. If, at that time, the results do come back saying people weren't doing their jobs, I'll gladly give you their names.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Very well, I guess we'll see soon.

CR

[Chaotix]

Vote: ATPG

From the way he's been talking, about his "importance to the town", I'd say he's probably CIA- the counter to the KGB/Communists faction. Of course, we don't know if the CIA is really beneficial to the town, or is just another anti-town or neutral group. After all, the CIA were not known in the Cold War for being upright and honest- they were rather unscrupulous in their methods. I mean, they're a bunch of spies, come on.

And if ATPG is not CIA... and he's also not a Wise Guy, or a townie... what does that leave? Mafia. Deserves a vote anyway.

Either way, he's been manipulating a whole load of protection groups, keeping the town busy protecting the wrong targets while making himself look innocent, while on the inside him and Diana Abnoba are busy plotting world domination or whatever.

EDIT: and now I am going to sleep. I will respond to your inevitable rebuff whenerver I wake up, ATPG.

[Kagemusha]

Vote: ATGP like i promised already i would do yesterday. You are giving such nonsensical reasons for town not to lynch its getting hilarious. You call yourself a pro town force when all you seem to do is kill people and spread disinformation to all directions.

[naut]

him and Diana Abnoba
When Seamus sends out last night's results we will know if your accusations are true or not.

Until that time. I think you just like the excuse to get the limelight of yourself and your buddies.

[Askthepizzaguy]

vote: Discovery1





Tally:

discovery1: 5 (Kommodus, Sasaki Kojiro, Beskar, YLC, Askthepizzaguy)
Askthepizzaguy: 4 (Shinseikhaan, Crazed Crabbit, Chaotix, Kagemusha)
Beskar: 1 (johnhughthom)

Abstain: Tratorix, Psychonaut, Double A, Xehh,

[Double A]

I just fond a hole in Khaan's theory about ATPG being a Don: Dons don't show up as guilty.

I'm inclined to vote: Discovery1 because of reasons supplied, and I feel like it's the only way to prove ATPG guilty with the FBI and therefore not a don (this is getting really screwy), and why would the CIA be anti-town? At worst they're be a cult of sorts. Made up of detectives.

[Askthepizzaguy]

At worst they're be a cult of sorts. Made up of detectives.

No... I'm not in a cult either... that's only going to make it worse for meeeeeee....... :laugh4: and :bigcry: at the same time.

[naut]

I just fond a hole in Khaan's theory about ATPG being a Don: Dons don't show up as guilty.
Good point. For now:

Vote: disco

Hey. ~:wave:

[Double A]

Hi :laugh4:

[AggonyDuck]

Vote: ATPG

[johnhughthom]

Vote: ATPG

Your second post in the thread, and not exactly informative. Any particular reason for your lack of participation?

Unvote, Vote:discovery1

I am unsure whether he is a luca or not, but I had been informed, from a source I trust, a few rounds ago he is a criminal.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Vote: ATPG

[slashandburn]

Vote: discovery1 I also have a source who has told me the same thing.

[scottishranger]

Vote: Double A

Until I hear otherwise, it definetly sounds like a Don to me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: ATPG

Oh yes, the scums are really coming out of the wood work now.

Did I target your mafia partner, ye players of only one or two posts? INTERESTING HOW IT IS NOW that you decide to show up and vote without a darn good reason.

REST ASSURED you both will be investigated. Have a nice day.


EDIT: Oh goody here they come. Your night action results should be coming back now... sweet!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Jolt- Questionable, but not un-American
atheotes- Loyal
DJGingivitis- Loyal


Those are the results on communist activity that I have so far.

EDIT: Courtesy tally:


discovery1: 9 (Kommodus, Sasaki Kojiro, Beskar, YLC, Askthepizzaguy, Double A, Psychonaut, johnhughthom, slashandburn)
Askthepizzaguy: 6 (Shinseikhaan, Crazed Crabbit, Chaotix, Kagemusha, AggonyDuck, Rhyfelwyr)
Double A: 1 (Scottishranger)

Abstain: Tratorix, Xehh

[Reenk Roink]

disco isn't a bad choice actually. I don't know who Atpg's source is, but I got dirt on disco a long time ago, and he made his way on the suspect list.

I was expecting a runaway landslide for Atpg, but it seems we'll get a disco-Atpg tie or something really close.

To be honest, I'm not sure either of them are the best lynch. Both are marked by other families (I am of the opinion that both are some kind of actual scum affiliated with others). I was hoping we lynch Sasaki today. Who knows how far he's gone in making his family?

[TinCow]

A brief note on the kills: I think we've got 2 families killing. The yellow rose mafia is obvious. The other is the "kunai" mafia. It looks like they tried to kill Lord Winter last night, but failed because only 1 showed up. However, there's an interesting bit in that write-up. In re: to one of the thrown "kunai", the killer said:


“That was Curio’s, but it somehow didn’t get used in all the hustle and bustle.”

This indicates to me that the kunai mafia attacked GSC on Night 2, but Seamus forgot to include the signature. Interestingly, that kill also appeared to fail due to having only 1 attacker. Looks like the kunai mafia is disorganized and are having problems getting their order PMs in.

[Kommodus]

I don't think we should lynch ATPG... yet. We should at least wait for the autopsy results on Yaropolk and possibly CountArach.

I do not know if ATPG truly has a pro-town role but I'm nearly certain that he is not mafia. It is universally acknowledged that he and GH worked together to kill Yaropolk - but Seamus requires the mafia families to leave a "calling card" of some kind at the scene of their kills (i.e. the yellow rose). There was no such calling card at the scene of Yaropolk's death.

On the other hand we have discovery1, an admitted Luca. Exactly why would we not lynch him? Unless, of course, we have an even better suspect?


Vote: Double A

Until I hear otherwise, it definetly sounds like a Don to me.

Can I ask you to explain what you mean by this?

[TinCow]

Also, here's a motley mix of other detective results that were sent to me a little while ago. I trust this source a lot more than the last one. These were all produced on N1 and N2, though I don't know specifically when each result was produced.


Beskar=criminal
Sasaki=innocent
ichigo=questionable
atheotes=loyal
count arach=questionable
discovery1=criminal

Apparently the questionable/loyal results are related to the communism sub-plot. The source does not think that they are any indication of whether the target is mafia or not; for instance, a loyal person could also be a mafioso.

[johnhughthom]

disco isn't a bad choice actually. I don't know who Atpg's source is, but I got dirt on disco a long time ago, and he made his way on the suspect list.


This seems to be a common theme, a lot of people seem to be certain disco is scum, I know I am. Atpg on the other had is far from certain either way, if it wasn't for the scummy recent posting between him, Beskar and Double A I would be inclined to believe pizza has a pro-town role. Right now I would say I am 60-40 he is pro-town (probably CIA).

[Sasaki Kojiro]

On the other hand we have discovery1, an admitted Luca. Exactly why would we not lynch him? Unless, of course, we have an even better suspect?


Technically he didn't admit to it...


Vote: discovery1 I also have a source who has told me the same thing.

fos:slashandburn

Seems unlikely to me.

[DisgruntledGoat]

Also, here's a motley mix of other detective results that were sent to me a little while ago. I trust this source a lot more than the last one. These were all produced on N1 and N2, though I don't know specifically when each result was produced.



Apparently the questionable/loyal results are related to the communism sub-plot. The source does not think that they are any indication of whether the target is mafia or not; for instance, a loyal person could also be a mafioso.

If those are to be are to be believed then why is Besker so ardently defending ATPG?

[scottishranger]

I don't think we should lynch ATPG... yet. We should at least wait for the autopsy results on Yaropolk and possibly CountArach.

I do not know if ATPG truly has a pro-town role but I'm nearly certain that he is not mafia. It is universally acknowledged that he and GH worked together to kill Yaropolk - but Seamus requires the mafia families to leave a "calling card" of some kind at the scene of their kills (i.e. the yellow rose). There was no such calling card at the scene of Yaropolk's death.

On the other hand we have discovery1, an admitted Luca. Exactly why would we not lynch him? Unless, of course, we have an even better suspect?



Can I ask you to explain what you mean by this?

Sure.

Take a look at his survival of the recent hit against him. In it, it appears there is apparently only one savior, and it takes three townies to make a protection group. How could he have survived?(Unless it was a doctor, which Im willing to accept if its true). If it wasnt a doctor, then a Luca had to have saved him.

[Kagemusha]

Well the only problem i have lynching Disco is that the source is ATGP. How do we know that he is not just trying to save his own butt?