Capo di Tutti Capi III [Concluded]

[johnhughthom]

Atpg is not scum, whether he is pro-town or not, now that is a different story.





He probably is though.

[Chaotix]

I think I'm just going to Vote: Abstain for this phase, because there are no real leads besides criminal detective results.

I wish this voting based on detective results didn't stamp out the random accusations on people that tend to find mafia, either. We seem to have lost some of the players who were good at that (GH, Kommo), and now the lynching seems entirely investigation-based.

[Proletariat]

Is gibsong still a good lynch? He was just a round or two ago for his 'attack random players for the good of the townies' brilliance, iirc

[Tratorix]

Select: ACIN Isn't it interesting that Kommodus was killed off the night before we selected a new director. :laugh4: Almost like someone didn't want him to run. Therefore, I'm not trusting anyone who has made a serious run for the directorship.

[a completely inoffensive name]

ATPG is going to help the town crush the mafia anyone saying anything different is wrong, but it's obvious he has his own independent agenda and is not a pro-town role. I don't care though, because when he finally turns on the town to reach his own goal it will be good lulz for me. And we can't change horses mid stream anyway.

EDIT: To everyone voting for me as director: You guys are the best; free drinks on me if I ever see you guys in RL.

[Double A]

It would help to know what country you're in before committing my vote.

[a completely inoffensive name]

It would help to know what country you're in before committing my vote.

I live on Thule Island. But I have a boat so I can travel anywhere.

[scotchedpommes]

Vote: Centurion1
I've not seen that any vigilante killings have been accounted for.

Select: Proletariat
The best way for us to counter multiple hit attempts.

[TinCow]

As we appear to be lacking in new suspect today, let's revisit an old one.

Vote: Sasaki

Tried to join a mafia family early on. Despite having a lot of communications with many people throughout the course of this game, I've never encountered anyone who's been aware of any of your activities. So, what have you been up to?

[White_eyes:D]

Vote: Centurion1 Let's go for the tie:yes:

[scottishranger]

viva la revolution

[Lord Winter]

Sorry for my abstance, last time I ever get behind on capo. :dizzy2:

Vote: Prole

CA's new postmortem changes nothing. There is nothing in the towns victory conditions that includes the death of any communist faction. Prole and Pizzaguy, have however shown that they only care about the town when it's convenient for them. It didn't stop Prole from giving up a detective to the mafia or stop AtPG working with GH to kill an innocent. At best this third faction will kill countless innocents that we can't afford to lose before they stop. At worst they are another anti town faction. Either way it doesn't matter, in mafia if your not with the town, your against it.

Select: Lord Winter

[ULC]

Sorry for my abstance, last time I ever get behind on capo. :dizzy2:

Vote: Prole

CA's new postmortem changes nothing. There is nothing in the towns victory conditions that includes the death of any communist faction. Prole and Pizzaguy, have however shown that they only care about the town when it's convenient for them. It didn't stop Prole from giving up a detective to the mafia or stop AtPG working with GH to kill an innocent. At best this third faction will kill countless innocents that we can't afford to lose before they stop. At worst they are another anti town faction. Either way it doesn't matter, in mafia if your not with the town, your against it.

Select: Lord Winter

And therefore you counter your own statement? By saying that this communist faction is not protown, then you also admit to the fact that it is against town, and anyone against it is therefore, at the very least, an enemy of my enemy who is my friend, if not outright protown.

Your absolutism will get you killed Lord Winter.

Unselect:ATPG, Select: Prole.

Vote: Centurion1

[Lord Winter]

Anyone who is neutral and does not have the same victory conditions as the town is ultimently a danger to the town. This includes both communist and the "CIA" faction. Can you tell me what harm the communists have caused to the town? IIRC they've done nothing. Now the CIA on the other hand have killed too detectives, have worked with the mafia and have killed innocents. They need to be stopped.

I also don't see how I countered my own statement.

[Moros]

Why do I have the feeling I'm the only person who doesn't have a secret agenda?

[Tratorix]

Why do I have the feeling I'm the only person who doesn't have a secret agenda?

Vote: Moros for trying to hide his secret agenda.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Lynch Moros. He clearly has a double-secret agenda.

[Moros]

Vote: Moros for trying to hide his secret agenda.

Okay I admit. I can no longer hide it I guess...

I'm a communist rebel Don who is also an informer and an agent of the CIA! :laugh4:

[Crazed Rabbit]

vote: Rhyfelwyr

Most lurkers have been WoG'd. This apparently criminal one hasn't.

CR

[Lord Winter]

Okay I admit. I can no longer hide it I guess...

I'm a communist rebel Don who is also an informer and an agent of the CIA! :laugh4:

See, See the CIA admits that they want to kill us. On with the lynch https://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9441/bandwaggon.gif

[Moros]

See, See the CIA admits that they want to kill us. On with the lynch https://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9441/bandwaggon.gif
If it wasn't for you youngsters... But how Bulma, how did you see trough my ingenious plot?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I am pm'ing with pizza. If you trust him as much as you do, well follow his judgement. Whatever it'll be. wierd that you do not trust someone as Reenk. Someone who has been great at organising protections and the likes. Who has given proof of being a townie and has never been questioned with a reason, not to be. If ATPG is doing such great work, I'm sure AVSM will be guilty and like I told Pizza before, that is when I will trust him more than just giving the benefit of the doubt.
It's just so wierd but especially dangerous that people are so enthousiast about Pizza. Cause if he's not what he says he is, we'll be in big problems. One of my rules playing mafia is to never really trust anyone. And if you have too, still be a critic and at least select the one least likely to be anti town and dangerous. In this case for example lets assume both candidates are mafia. In this case ATPG would be the bigger threat because of his loyal followers and experience. Also he is a guy able to pull of something like that. Probably that's why I don't like to trust him too much.

Either way act and think what you please. But it might just be the historian in me, taking everything with a pretty large chunk of salt. Or just call me careful.

Trust me, I am not Enthusiastic about Having to trust Atpg..... :shame: But the way I see it for now he has done nothing to play his hand. If he is working against the town then he should eventually make a mistake, and after that we pounce on him. Until then he is extremely useful in organizing things, and his intellect and contacts have led to scum being lynched before. Until I get Info otherwise I think I will help him out, :sweatdrop:. He has information, I don't (I missed the opening stages of the game, when we are all going out and getting contacts. I am pretty much flying blind). :yes:

[slashandburn]

Vote: Centurion1
Select:Slashandburn

[Askthepizzaguy]

Courtesy tally, needs a recheck.

Lynch Tally:

Rhyfelwyr: 8 (Askthepizzaguy, Kukrikhan, woad&fangs, Diana Abnoba, Ricera10, Double A, splitpersonality, Crazed Rabbit
Moros: 2 (Cultured Drizzt Fan, Tratorix)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 (Shinseikhaan)
Centurion1: 5 (Haudegen, SSNeoperestroika, WhiteEyes, YLC, slashandburn)
Sasaki: 1 (TinCow)
Proletariat: 1 (Lord Winter)


Abstain: Moros, DisgruntledGoat, Chaotix



Director Tally:

Askthepizzaguy: 10 (Beskar, White_eyes, Askthepizzaguy, Double A, CDF, gibsonsg91921, Diana Abnoba, DisgruntledGoat, Splitpersonality, Haudegen)
Proletariat: 9 (Proletariat, Kukrikhan, TinCow, Beefy187, shlin28, Joe Monks, Crazed Rabbit, SSNeoperestroika, YLC)
slashandburn: 5 (Sasaki Kojiro, Chaotix, Shinseikhaan, Moros, slashandburn)
ACIN: 3 (ACIN, woad&fangs, tratorix)
Lord Winter: 1 (Lord Winter)

Abstain: Ricera10

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Host's Tallies


For the Lynch:

1st Rhyfelwer: 8 (askthepizzaguy, Crazed Rabbit, Diana Abnoba, Double A, Kukrikhan, Ricera10, spL1tp3r50naL1ty, woad&fangs)

2nd Centurion1: 5 (haudegen, slashandburn, SSNeoperestroika, White_eyes:D, YLC)

3rd Moros: 2 (Cultured Drizzt Fan, Tratorix)

4th/5th/6th
askthepizzaguy: 1 (Shinseikhaan)

Proletariat: 1 (Lord Winter)

Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (TinCow)

Other:

Abstain: 3 (Chaotix, DJGingivtis, Moros)


For Director:

1st askthepizzaguy: 10 (askthepizzaguy, Beskar, Cultured Drizzt Fan, Diana Abnoba, DJGingivtis, Double A, gibsonsg91921, haudegen, spL1tp3r50naL1ty, White_eyes:D)

2nd Proletariat: 9 (Beefy187, Crazed Rabbit, Joe Monks, Kukrikhan, Proletariat, shlin28, SSNeoperestroika, TinCow, YLC)

3rd slashandburn: 5 (Chaotix, Moros, Sasaki Kojiro, slashandburn, Shinseikhaan)

4th a completely inoffensive name: 3 (a completely inoffensive name, Tratorix, woad&fangs)

5th Lord Winter: 1 (Lord Winter)

abstention: 1 (ricera10)

[a completely inoffensive name]

Vote: Moros

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Far off in sunlit places,
Sad are the Scottish faces,
Yearning to feel the kiss of sweet Scottish rain.
Where tropic skies are beaming,
Love sets the heart a-dreaming,
Longing and dreaming for the homeland again.

-- Cliff Hanley


Evening, Day Seven


The meeting had featured its usual discussion, along with the usual acrimony, and had ended, yet again with the early departure of the Director and the tallying of the votes.

Having announced that he was not seeking the Directorship in order to spend a bit more time with an out of town guest, the selection balloting had been fairly heated. When the final tally was made askthepizzaguy had been selected as Director of the Committee for days 8 and 9.

Votes regarding who should be lynched had been far slower in coming. Finally, after several names had been bruited about, Rhyfelwyr had been chosen to face the vengeance of the Committee. Rhyfelwyr was handed the business card with the Club 30 address – re-used, featuring a slightly singed upper right corner – and was then ushered out of the convention hall for the walk across town to Club 30.

Taking advantage of a momentary lapse in the watchfulness of the guards, Rhyfelwyr cut quickly into an alley and made his way to the safety of his mother’s house.

Mom greeted him warmly, fussing over his suit and confirming he had on clean underwear -- Rhyfelwyr now remembered why he hadn’t visited for some time – while ushering him into his old bedroom upstairs. She started sponging off his suit coat.

“You’ll need to look your best for the Director, Rhyfelwyr.”

“I’m going nowhere near that madman, OR his crazy club!”

“But you promised, dear,” said his mother, smoothing his collar and beginning to adjust his necktie to remove and twists and to insure a perfectly centered knot. “You swore to participate in the Committee honorably.”

“This is insane! You can’t be serious?”

“I know dear, I know. It’s just that…”

Rhyfelwyr’s mother suddenly grasped the necktie and spun it behind him using the quickly tightening knot to strangle him. He gasped and sputtered, too surprised to react. He fell to his knees, vision already fading, strength sapped by the lack of oxygen.

“I’m so sorry, dear,” said his mother. “I know this is hard, but it’s for your own good. We can’t have you not keeping your promises.”

Rhyfelwyr’s mother sobbed a bit as she spoke, sad to be the one to bring things to a close. After a few painful minutes, it was all over. Director Reenk Roink entered the room, resplendent in his cream-colored suit, and moved to comfort the quietly crying woman.

“There, there, dear,” said Reenk soothingly, “I know that was hard, but it was all for the best.”

“I know you’re right,” she said, still crying a little.

“Of course I am,” said Reenk, “now let’s go downstairs and you can make us a nice cup of tea.”


OOC

Night Seven now begins. PM’s are due no later than 2200 Eastern on Sunday (0100 Monday GMT).


Vote and Selection Tallies


For the Lynch:

1st Rhyfelwyr: 8 (askthepizzaguy, Crazed Rabbit, Diana Abnoba, Double A, Kukrikhan, Ricera10, spL1tp3r50naL1ty, woad&fangs)

2nd Centurion1: 5 (haudegen, slashandburn, SSNeoperestroika, White_eyes:D, YLC)

3rd Moros: 3 (a completely inoffensive name, Cultured Drizzt Fan, Tratorix)

4th/5th/6th
askthepizzaguy: 1 (Shinseikhaan)

Proletariat: 1 (Lord Winter)

Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (TinCow)

Other:

Abstain: 3 (Chaotix, DJGingivtis, Moros)


For Director:

1st askthepizzaguy: 10 (askthepizzaguy, Beskar, Cultured Drizzt Fan, Diana Abnoba, DJGingivtis, Double A, gibsonsg91921, haudegen, spL1tp3r50naL1ty, White_eyes:D)

2nd Proletariat: 9 (Beefy187, Crazed Rabbit, Joe Monks, Kukrikhan, Proletariat, shlin28, SSNeoperestroika, TinCow, YLC)

3rd slashandburn: 5 (Chaotix, Moros, Sasaki Kojiro, slashandburn, Shinseikhaan)

4th a completely inoffensive name: 3 (a completely inoffensive name, Tratorix, woad&fangs)

5th Lord Winter: 1 (Lord Winter)

abstention: 1 (ricera10)

[a completely inoffensive name]

Darn, I should have selected Prole just for the lulz of a tie.

[scotchedpommes]

Trivial and mildly pedantic point, but if Rhy had to be sacrificed in a wasted lynch, it'd be fitting if we could at least use his name correctly. ~;)

[Rhyfelwyr]

~:mecry:

[Beskar]

It's funny that a Mafia only voted for himself and no one else joined him.

[DisgruntledGoat]

It's funny that a Mafia only voted for himself and no one else joined him.

Who are you talking about.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Trivial and mildly pedantic point, but if Rhy had to be sacrificed in a wasted lynch, it'd be fitting if we could at least use his name correctly. ~;)


My fault. Spelling corrected.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy progress log and estimated status of Fatlington:

76 starting players.

ALIVE: 51

51 living players remaining.

47 active players remaining.
4 inactive players remaining.

DEAD: 25

1 suspected Don
2 Lucas
1 Made Gangster
3 suspected criminals
2 suspected wiseguys
1 confirmed communist
1 suspected communist
6 suspected townies
2 suspected FBI
1 suspected Detective
3 unknown/inactive, presumably townies

Mafia: estimated 15-20 remaining (Askthepizzaguy estimate)

Likely 4 Dons remaining.
Three or fewer Lucas remaining.
4 or fewer starting Mades remaining.
At least a few additional mades remaining.

Other:

2 known loyal (non-communist) remaining
No known (result other than questionable)
At least five suspects (questionable) remaining.


Town-Mafia ratio: 3 townies for every 2 mafia estimated.

Feel free to correct any mistakes or give a better estimate.

[a completely inoffensive name]

3:2? We are so screwed.

[Moros]

You know the 3 townies for every 2 mafia part makes me worry...

[Double A]

Nice knowing you guys...

[Joooray]

About the only chance we have now is the mafia going after each other.

[Caius]

I'm pulling out of the game. I've come down with a flu, and I can't check the org as always.

[LittleGrizzly]

3:2 would indicate your done for unless the mafia go for each other...

Thats if those 3 townies work effectively towards victory... with the unknown element mafia have it would seem unlikely...

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Take nothing for granted in life
Nothing goes as planned but it all works out in the end
Live each day as if it were your last
We think we understand until everything gets out of hand

There comes a time in all our lives when we must choose
It’s always for the best, sometimes we win even when we lose
Only time will tell if it’s too late to clean this slate
It’s just as well, you’ll have to live with the choice you made

-- Matthew Staley


Summary of Events, Night Seven


Proletariat was walking down the middle of the street – more space to react if something happened – when something did happen. She was walking down the last block to Atlantic when she noticed something odd. All of the cars were the same make and model, and each had a large glass bottle atop it. Prole slowed her pace and came to a stop about halfway down the block.

A figure stepped into the middle of the street right where it joined Atlantic avenue. Hat low and collar of his gleaming black leather trench coat turned up to shade his face. “Two for second place,” he said, cryptically as a pair of kunai flashed one from either hand.

The knives went the length of the block, shattering each bottle in turn and cascading the golden powder inside over the cars themselves and into the street. Prole stood still. The gleaming dark figure tipped his hat…and then the rains lashed down.

Instantly there was a maelstrom of flame. All of the cars were covering in fire which sent tendrils of flame into the street near Prole. Windshields shattered from the sudden contrast of heat and cold and further down the block behind her one gas tank exploded, knocking her to her knees. Before the flames could wash over her, a jet of high pressure water shoved the flames backward – intensifying them but pushing them away from Prole. It was all over in a minute, save for the rain and the one burning car behind her. Still a little stunned, Proletariat got up slowly. She took care to avoid the shards of glass littered everywhere and the little guttering flames as hidden pockets of powder flared up, then made her way quietly to her apartment.

It was only later that the police found the body of Warmaster Horus lying on the curb next to the burnt out car. He’d turned the wrong corner at the wrong time.


Shinseikhaan was the last person in the corner taproom aside from the bartender. It was early, but Fatlington didn’t seem as “festive” as it normally would be. ‘khaan was halfway through his last beer when the 6’ rabbit, blood stained legs and all, walked into the tappy. The rabbit pulled back both hammers on the double shotty.

Shinseikhaan leapt off the stool as the rabbit fired. Some of the shot hit him, but he had an armor vest under his coat, so though he spun along the bar and it hurt like bejeebers, he didn’t go down. The rabbit began to reload when ‘khaan got a burst of energy and leapt across the bar heading for the back.

Much to the rabbit’s surprise, there was nobody waiting for him. Shinseikhaan made good his escape. Shortly thereafter, the bunny did too. He didn’t hop.


As she reached the door of her apartment and gently swung it open, Proletariat paused, instantly noting that something was out of place. Placed throughout the apartment were crystal bowls filled with a golden powder. From her spot just outside the door, she could see all the way to the half-bathroom at the end of the short hallway which bisected her large apartment. The water-pipes below the sink were festooned with some kind of putty to which wires had been attached – a veteran would have told her instantly that she was looking at small blocks of composition c. Crystal decanters of water were scattered about the apartment, also wired to explode. Proletariat began to back away toward the top of the stairs.

“Now, now, after all my hard work, you wouldn’t want to miss the show, would you?”

The dark figure in the gleaming black trench coat was almost at the top of the stairs, a kunai in either hand. Proletariat stopped in her tracks. The two kunai whirled past either ear on a converging course into her apartment.

“See, I only used two,” said the man as the blades thudded into their target…perfectly angled to touch together and make a circuit connection. Instead of a series of explosions shattering water pipes and spraying the powder to generate a flameblast, however, the circuit now connected powerful spotlights that flooded the hallway with light, negating any shadows.

“Twilightblade?” Proletariat said, incredulous. She was stunned, but had a clear view of him.

Twilightblade looked almost sheepish, said “I’m not REALLY here,” and pulled a bottle of powder and a bottle of water out of his coat pockets, backing slowly towards the fire escape. Prole hesitated, but then charged after ‘blade. ‘Blade threw both bottles, missing Prole as she leaned forward, but bouncing them off the open door of her apartment and into her front hall. Whoever had re-wired the charges into a new circuit had not had time to neutralize the powder or remove the explosive. The flash from the quick fire as the bottles Twilightblade had thrown shattered was just “fast” enough, in chemical terms, to ignite the closest of the plastic charges. The quick chain reaction gutted Proletariat’s apartment in the blast Twilightblade had hoped for originally.

Twilightblade and Prole were both knocked sprawling. ‘Blade got to his feet just a little bit faster stepping away from Prole and through the gathering smoke to the fire escape window exit at the end of the hall. Turning, he doffed his fedora and made a sweeping bow like some cavalier from a bygone era and then leapt onto the fire escape.

Proletariat stood and ran after him, screaming his name and inhaling entirely too much smoke in the process. She didn’t catch him since he’d jumped on the escape ladder and ridden it down as it deployed. Having to climb down the ladder herself, she just couldn’t keep up with him as he ran into the dark and the continuing rain – though several people watched him as he ran from the scene, attracted by her repeated shouting of his name. A fire engine crew was already pulling up to the curb.

“Here,” said a firefighter who came up to the coughing Proletariat, “take a blast of this oxygen to clear your lungs.”

Proletariat gratefully drew deep breaths from the mask – and then everything went black.

She awoke quickly after the injection. She’d been gagged and strapped to a bed, her arms and legs handcuffed to the Iron bedposts at each corner. Her eyes, framed by blinders so she could only look forward, widened in horror as she beheld the masked man before her, smiling at her with an evil grin as he lifted the heavy kopis blade. Her scream was too muffled to carry.

“I mixed a paralytic in with the stimulant, Prole. I don’t need you thrashing about but I didn’t want you to miss anything. My last guest didn’t provide enough energy.”

The man proceeded to tighten tourniquets that had been pre-placed high up on her arms and legs. Then he lifted the sword.

He never brought it down for the first strike. At the apex of his swing, a heavy bullet crashed into the kopis, knocking it from his hands. A second heavy slug would have killed the masked butcher, but he was already falling from the impact of the first shot taking the blades from his hand.

Prole’s savior pushed through the bathroom window at the back of the motel room, but not in time to prevent the would-be killer from rolling out of the room’s door and into the parking lot. Closed for the Winter, there was no one around to impede his escape.

Without the added “stimulation” the masked man had intended to provide, the paralytic had put Proletariat out. When she awoke, the tourniquets and restraints had been removed and an extra pillow was neatly fluffed and placed under her head. She never saw her guardian angel.


Morning Meeting, opening of Day Eight

"...so anyway, your new Director askthepizzaguy will take over the administration of today’s Lynch vote..."

Fermanagh paused briefly.

"Well, here are the results of the post-mortem investigations on Craterus, johnhughthom, Leet Erickson, Psychonaut, and atheotes.”

“Craterus was a wiseguy, but had no recent run-ins and nothing incriminating regarding connections to our current problems. There were successes for us this time as well. Leet Erickson was a Made gangster and atheotes was a Mafia Don! That was an excellent lynch choice by the committee and Leet will be no loss. Well done gentlemen.”

Fermanagh paused, then continued.

“Psychonaut was an innocent townie with a clear record, we’re sadder for his loss. And johnhughthom was worse – he was our hidden FBI Agent-in-Charge. Director Hoover has been more than clear in expressing his anger.

Fermanagh began to pack up. The new Director looked up, vaguely surprised.

“Isn’t there something more?”

“Mr. Director?”

“Further information about Yaropolk?”

Fermanagh shook his head no, then he filed out. The committee reviewed the rules and procedures, then filed out to their work before returning that afternoon to vote and to select.


OOC

Voting (Lynch only) will conclude at 2200 Eastern Monday (0200 Tuesday GMT).


The Cost of Life in Fatlington:

Attacked: Beefy187 (n1, n6), DJGingivtis (n2), GSC (n2), Beskar (n3), Double A (n3), Lord Winter (n3, n5), Andres (n4), Diana Abnoba (n4), Reenk Roink (n4), Iskander3.1 (n5), Proletariat (n5, n5, n7, n7), TinCow (n6), Shinseikhaan (n7)

Killed: Quintus.JC (n1), The Stranger (n1), Death is Yonder (n2), pevergreen (n2), Yaropolk (n2), Myrddraal (n3), Jolt (n4), Craterus (n5), johnhughthom (n5), Leet Erickson (n5), Psychonaut (n5), Iskander3.1 (n6), Khazaar (n6), Kommodus (n6), scottishranger (n6),

Lynched: Factionheir (d2), CountArach (d3), GeneralHankerchief (d3), discovery1 (d4), atheotes (d5), A Very Super Market (d6), Kagemusha (d6),

Wogged: Nole4694 (n5), Truepraetorian (n5), Dutch_guy (n6), Warmaster Horus (n7)

[Lord Winter]

Vote: Twightlightblade

[Beskar]

ROFL, Atheotes, why are you always the mafia?

[slashandburn]

Vote:Twilightblade Attacking a protown alone and surviving = mafia!

[a completely inoffensive name]

Well:
1. Prole has been attacked 4 times, which no offense to the people trying to kill Prole but at this point you guys just need to get one of those Fat Man (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fat_man) from Fallout 3, because failing 4 times is making Prole seem more like Rasputin in my opinion.
and
2. Great job on killing the friggen FBI Agent-in-charge, honestly how the heck did we such a huge pro town role die?

Language - Sigurd

[Beskar]

I don't think Twilightblade is a threat, he obviously sucks at killing anyone and he doesn't wear a mask. I think he will ambush you with a straw and try to suck on you for his next kill, then you brush him away and kick him as he runs off.

Vote: Twilightblade for now anyway, until we try to tie up another.

[Askthepizzaguy]

3:2? We are so screwed.


You know the 3 townies for every 2 mafia part makes me worry...


Nice knowing you guys...


About the only chance we have now is the mafia going after each other.


3:2 would indicate your done for unless the mafia go for each other...

Thats if those 3 townies work effectively towards victory... with the unknown element mafia have it would seem unlikely...

Now what is all this defeatist rubbish? We might, might, be 3 townies for every 2 mafia combined. But they are all against one another. The town is united. We have intelligence to work off of, we have defenders and detectives and all manner of useful people. We're taking these bleepity bleeps down one by one, or sometimes two at a time. We're defeating them in the day phase, we're trouncing them in the night phase... we have not appeared to have wasted a SINGLE lynch so far. We have suspects to go after and we're in excellent shape.

I won't have it. This is a day of triumph, not worry. And we will prevail. Bring me two of the scummiest among you, and I'll deliver you justice in 30 minutes or less.

[Chaotix]

Vote: Twilightblade.

For pressure, right now. Once he explains what he's really up to, we'll move on to someone else if he sounds genuine enough.

[a completely inoffensive name]

we're trouncing them in the night phase.

Is that why our FBI Agent-in-charge died?

[woad&fangs]

Vote: Twilightblade

[Beskar]

Is that why our FBI Agent-in-charge died?

Reenk's orders, apparently. It's funny he takes this time to "disappear". He was also very against Prole, who was his FBI partner.

Speaks for itself.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Twilightblade attacked Prole solo for fun in Capo II as well. Leave him be, unless you fools want to waste another lynch. :laugh4:

[a completely inoffensive name]

Vote: Moros

[Chaotix]

Twilightblade attacked Prole solo for fun in Capo II as well. Leave him be, unless you fools want to waste another lynch. :laugh4:

Not to be taking advice from a mafioso, but given the fact that Twilightblade hasn't actually killed anyone, I don't think we're going to have to worry about him. In any case, we'll know for sure by the write-up if he starts killing.

My vote on him was for pressure for him to reveal; I strongly suggest no more votes go on him, lest we get ourselves into a runaway bandwagon that cannot be reversed.

[Twilightblade]

To all those who would lynch me I ask this one question

What will happen during the night phases if I'm not around to provide entertainment?

My answer is there will only be grim killings and nothing to 'brighten up the procedings

[Caius]

Which is the situation of Reenk so far? Is he alive?

I won't suicide yet people, not yet.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I'll hold off voting twilightblade for now. He hasn't actually killed anyone, has he?

Also, I don't think we want a huge bandwagon in case another suspect shows up later.

CR

[a completely inoffensive name]

To all those who would lynch me I ask this one question

What will happen during the night phases if I'm not around to provide entertainment?

My answer is there will only be grim killings and nothing to 'brighten up the procedings

I guess my 80 inane posts in this thread mean nothing for you.

[Reenk Roink]

All righty, this will have to be my last substantive post in a while on the game. Will do my best to get in on the votes.

Town is basically done in. This looks like it's going to be between the different G-men/commies, and different Mafia.

I leave and the resulting power vacuum puts in Mr. Askthe "I don't want to be director" guy , with Prole "to :daisy: with Mafia I want commies" the close second... :rolleyes: :wall:

Despite Beskar somehow blaming me for john's death :rolleyes:, it was Atpg's fault, and yet I somewhat have to congratulate him for it as well as bang my head. There is a benefit in keeping these G-men down and fighting each other. :2thumbsup:

Lord Winter is absolutely right about CA's result. Despite Atpg's good speculative interpretation of CA working against the town, the fact is that the G-men are doing so too.

To all town-aligned out there. From what I've gathered this is who you should trust in order:

1) Townies (not doing vig killings) - :cool:




2) FBI - from what I've seen NOT as bad as the CIA. It was the FBI that got the disco = luca result.
3a) CIA
3b) Communists
4) Mafia families

Wiseguys are really hard to place. One the one hand, pevergreen, by far the greatest Fatlingtonian of our day was a wiseguy, but Beskar, by far the worst, is also.

I seriously suggest you at least alternate the directorship every selection period between Prole and slashandburn and Atpg. Unfortunately, I can't run and mop the floor with them anymore.

Lastly, lynch Ironside!

Vote: Ironside

[Twilightblade]

I'll hold off voting twilightblade for now. He hasn't actually killed anyone, has he?

and I wont, I don't play nice with others you see:smash:

[Caius]

Vote:Ironside

More things to discuss later.

[Chaotix]

Why Ironside?

I can account for his actions N6... other than that I am unsure. What evidence do we have against him?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Why Ironside?

I can account for his actions N6... other than that I am unsure. What evidence do we have against him?

A man said to vote for him in large, bold letters.

[Tratorix]

Why Ironside?

I can account for his actions N6... other than that I am unsure. What evidence do we have against him?

The same evidence that there has been against anyone else this game. Someone sent a pm to someone else saying he was guilty. :shrug:

[Chaotix]

A man said to vote for him in large, bold letters.

That's the best reason I've been given all week!

Seriously, though, I'll wait till TB decides to give us a full explanation before I take my vote off him.

[Diana Abnoba]

I'm pulling out of the game. I've come down with a flu, and I can't check the org as always.

Sorry to see you go, hope you are feeling better soon.

[Twilightblade]

That's the best reason I've been given all week!

Seriously, though, I'll wait till TB decides to give us a full explanation before I take my vote off him.

How bout you search the summaries thread and look for the key words of kunai and golden liquid/sand

that should pretty much cover all I've been doing

[Diana Abnoba]

Yes, please TB explain. What is up with your role? You are like a SK that doesn't kill. Will you get stronger each time, and then, it will kill your target. It seems that each time you have an attempted kill the explosion gets bigger, and now you are set up in the victims apartment. What purpose does you role have? :inquisitive:

[White_eyes:D]

Vote:Ironside....Till TwilghtBlades kills someone, I am going with Reenk on this:yes:

[Diana Abnoba]

Reenk, do you know if Ironside has a guilty or criminal result? If not, what is the reason to lynch him?
Please tell us as much as you can in thread (the reasons).

[Askthepizzaguy]

Suggestion: bring me Ironside and one other. Let's try to do a duo for this. Right now I'm not a big fan of the Twilightblade lynch.

[White_eyes:D]

If it's a tie....can you make it a "fight-to-the-death scene"?:2thumbsup:

[pevergreen]

Vote:Twilightblade Attacking a protown alone and surviving = mafia!
See below

Twilightblade attacked Prole solo for fun in Capo II as well. Leave him be, unless you fools want to waste another lynch. :laugh4:
Yup, he attacked prole every night for what...6 nights? Silly, but looking back on it, quite humerous

To all those who would lynch me I ask this one question

What will happen during the night phases if I'm not around to provide entertainment?

My answer is there will only be grim killings and nothing to 'brighten up the procedings
Dang nabbit, TB, you may be right.

On the plus side. It went well with VCG. :smoking:


Suggestion: bring me Ironside and one other. Let's try to do a duo for this. Right now I'm not a big fan of the Twilightblade lynch.

And so you shouldnt be.

[Reenk Roink]

Reenk, do you know if Ironside has a guilty or criminal result? If not, what is the reason to lynch him?
Please tell us as much as you can in thread (the reasons).


This post early day 3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2312689&postcount=452)

The disco lead turned out to be confirmed a luca by FBI. What about the Ironside lead? :wink:

[Twilightblade]

Yes, please TB explain. What is up with your role? You are like a SK that doesn't kill. Will you get stronger each time, and then, it will kill your target. It seems that each time you have an attempted kill the explosion gets bigger, and now you are set up in the victims apartment. What purpose does you role have? :inquisitive:

The explosions get bigger cuz I get more creative with what I send seamus

For some history look at Capo II the person with an ashenderi was me and the same thing happened as is happening now apart from the whole everyone trying to lynch me bit

[Chaotix]

Fine. Good enough.

Unvote, Vote: Ironside

If you kill anyone, though, Twilightblade, I'll vote you till you're dead. Or maybe we'll organize a vig-kill on you because you could be an actor/joker role. Till then, you can have your fun.

[Diana Abnoba]

"Ironside and disco should be watched, they are capable of killing if you know what I mean."

Reenk, is this what you meant, he is mafia? How do you know? Again, do you have investigation results on him?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Lord Winter I am told has been investigated as "criminal".

Hahahahah.... that matches the pattern. Everyone so far with a "loyal" result has been a scumbag. How very interesting...


Investigation results conclude you are loyal to Fatlington (not a communist).

So far, all "loyal" results also indicated mafia ties, so this does not clear you. Would you mind accounting for your whereabouts during the past 7 night phases?

(REDACTED)

grazi. :bow:



I've actually haven't been in any killing/protection groups. Mainly because I havn't took the time to do the necessary PMing to organize one. I am an unaffiliated wiseguy.

That's not fun. That means you have no alibi. If you haven't been doing anything productive for the town, and I've been asking for protection and vigilante volunteers every phase, I have to consider you a possible mafia-aligned player. Right now I'm Don and Luca hunting, so you're not my priority. I would ask that you find yourself a protection group to be a part of; feel free to volunteer for one of mine.

I can't claim it will be glorious and thankful work, but it would get you off of my radar.

Let's see how he reacts. No alibi, loyal/criminal result... smells like a scum to me.
Nothing. He's read the message, doesn't seem to care. No alibi, no volunteering to be part of Fatlington's glorious future. A "criminal" and a "loyal" result, both tending to indicate mafia status, although not 100% positive.

Submitted for your consideration... Lord Winter.

[Lord Winter]

There's still almost 24 hours untill night.

Also of course I have a criminal result I'm a wiseguy. Come back to me when you have an actual case.

[Askthepizzaguy]

There's still almost 24 hours untill night.

Also of course I have a criminal result I'm a wiseguy. Come back to me when you have an actual case.

The case is you have a criminal result, and no one can vouch for your whereabouts. You haven't been helping us at all, and there's no way to prove your loyalty. When offered the chance, you ignored it.

Now that you're a known wiseguy, you may be approached to become full mafia, if you haven't already. If you won't be busy doing pro-town actions, then you are no help to us and a possible threat.

[Lord Winter]

I wouldn't call not answering a PM immediately, ignoring it. I'll talk about protection groups when we get closer to night. Besides you know I don't exactly trust you either.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I wouldn't call not answering a PM immediately, ignoring it. I'll talk about protection groups when we get closer to night. Besides you know I don't exactly trust you either.

Lord Winter, I sent you a twitter almost 56 seconds ago! Why are you ignoring me? What are you hiding?

[Twilightblade]

Vote: abstain

It would be innapropriate for me to do otherwise all things considered

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Wasn't t'blade a basic wise guy or townie last game? And went for solo attacks just for the heck of it?

[pevergreen]

Wasn't t'blade a basic wise guy or townie last game? And went for solo attacks just for the heck of it?

Yup. He didnt go in any groups, just attacked solo until he died from doing it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tally:

Ironside: 4 (Reenk Roink, Caius, White_Eyes, Chaotix)
Twilightblade: 4 (Lord Winter, slashandburn, Beskar, woad&fangs)
Moros: 1 (ACIN)

abstain: Twilightblade

[Twilightblade]

Yup. He didnt go in any groups, just attacked solo until he died from doing it.

Actually I was killed on the last night by the remaining mafia

[pevergreen]

Nice.

Did you see my message to you in a post before though?

:2thumbsup:

[a completely inoffensive name]

I am bored, if someone wanted to message me to discuss something, or share info that would be cool.

[Ironside]

I am obviously curious about this one RR. :inquisitive:

You have anything more than a hinting of that I might have a criminal result? I feel quite insulted of getting lynched by that, particulary considering that probably about 30 of the orginal players should have criminal results. Or is it even worse that you run a wild goose chase on a unclear result?

[a completely inoffensive name]

I am obviously curious about this one RR. :inquisitive:

You have anything more than a hinting of that I might have a criminal result? I feel quite insulted of getting lynched by that, particulary considering that probably about 30 of the orginal players should have criminal results. Or is it even worse that you run a wild goose chase on a unclear result?

If you want me to change my vote for you, you are going to have to type in bigger and bolder letters then he did.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Moros' nighttime whereabouts have been accounted for, with multiple seemingly independent sources.

[a completely inoffensive name]

What are his alibi's?

[Askthepizzaguy]

He is confirmed to be part of a vigilante group one night, and part of protection groups the rest of the nights.

I won't name names, it is enough that several people vouch for him.

[Beefy187]

What are his alibi's?

Multiple protection missions.

I'm tempted to vote for TB, for trying to kill me and almost getting me lynched for it, but I'll abstain for now.

Vote: Abstain

[a completely inoffensive name]

Alright then Unvote; Vote: Abstain for the moment.

[Twilightblade]

I'm tempted to vote for TB, for trying to kill me and almost getting me lynched for it, but I'll abstain for now.

beefy I only attacked you cause I cared:clown:

[AggonyDuck]

Vote: Lord Winter

[a completely inoffensive name]

Unvote; Vote: Lord Winter I forgot he was still in the game.

[TinCow]

Vote: Ironside

What is being said about Twilightblade appears to be correct: likely townie or wiseguy attacking solo (and thus constantly failing) just to be amusing, just like he did last game. In such a situation, he's harmless. The case against Ironside is essentially just Reenk's word, but I'm willing to go with that for the time being as thanks for his great lynches.

[Beefy187]

beefy I only attacked you cause I cared:clown:

What ever :smash:

Vote: Ironside

I trust Reenk.

[Beskar]

Unvote; Vote:Lord Winter

He is a Mafia, remember how I laughed yesterday about him selecting himself but no one joined him?

I was going to vote for him at the very beginning, however, he voted for Twilight and it would have looked like I supported Twilight's actions.

[Andres]

Vote: Lord Winter

Vote : AggonyDuck

[Beskar]

Wiseguys are really hard to place. One the one hand, pevergreen, by far the greatest Fatlingtonian of our day was a wiseguy, but Beskar, by far the worst, is also.



It is funny how you say I am the worst, because I am not your supporter, while your supporter is the best.

[scotchedpommes]

Vote: Centurion1

[Moros]

He is confirmed to be part of a vigilante group one night, and part of protection groups the rest of the nights.

I won't name names, it is enough that several people vouch for him.

I wasn't in the vigilante group btw, they asked me in, but I refused. Was planning to do a protectiongroup sadly the third member left to join in on TS's idiocy.

I'll guess I'll vote Lordwinter, might not be 'real' mafia, but you never know he actually might be already. If not soon. Of course if he can at leas attest some of his night accounts I'll consider to change my vote.

Vote: lordwinter

Also anyone made a list of people who died/were killed and their results?

[pevergreen]

It is funny how you say I am the worst, because I am not your supporter, while your supporter is the best.

pevereenk.

[Joooray]

Don't worry, pizza, I'm not giving up yet. ~;)

With voting, I'll go with Vote : Lord Winter for now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tally

Ironside: 6 (Reenk Roink, Caius, White_Eyes, Chaotix, TinCow, Beefy)
Lord Winter: 5 (AggonyDuck, ACIN, Beskar, Moros, Joooray)
Twilightblade: 3 (Lord Winter, slashandburn, woad&fangs)
AggonyDuck: 1 (Andres)
Centurion1: 1 (SSNeoperestroika)

abstain: Twilightblade, Beefy,

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Ironside

[Moros]

Why do so many just post a vote but not a reasoning. It almost looks as if they try to throw suspicion around or try to avoid a 'team'member getting lynched.


Vote: Ironside
Are we protecting Lord Winter? If you have a better reason to vote Ironside and not Lordwinter, feel free to add it. We can always use some good reasons or evidence to vote for someone specific. Or is my assumption correct perhaps? Also is it me or are you on the edge of lurking this game? How come?
Edit: Gah, checking your amount of posts in this thread, appear to contradict the fact that you were lurking. I guess I just don't remember much of your posting or something, Gah!

[Moros]

Vote : AggonyDuck
Know what's worse? He has done this every time up on til now.
Check this: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/search.php?searchid=230308
Every single post except for the post he said he was in, he voted someone without a single word of explaination. The only thing he adds is his selection of the director.

[Andres]

Know what's worse? He has done this every time up on til now.
Check this: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/search.php?searchid=230308
Every single post except for the post he said he was in, he voted someone without a single word of explaination. The only thing he adds is his selection of the director.

Yep.

Duck needs to talk. His behaviour is starting to freak me out.

[GeneralHankerchief]

:laugh4:

[Moros]

Yep.

Duck needs to talk. His behaviour is starting to freak me out.

Indeed.

Unvote, Vote: AgonyDuck
Lets see if we can make him talk?

[TinCow]

Apparently there is a criminal result on Lord Winter with no one accounting for his night activities. Given Reenk's total lack of desire to present a real case against Ironside, I'd like to keep the vote close between those two.

Unvote; Vote: Lord Winter

[Beskar]

Maybe we should tie it and lynch them both off?

[Moros]

Maybe we should tie it and lynch them both off?
Who is both? Ironside & lordwinter?

[Andres]

:laugh4:

Enjoying the role of dead mafioso, are we?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Maybe it's because now I'm in on the joke. :laugh4:

[Andres]

Sorry GeneralHankerchief is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her.


:mean:

[GeneralHankerchief]

The funny thing is, I think this is the second or third time in this thread that someone has expressed their displeasure about that little fact. :laugh4:

[Beskar]

Andres, give him infractions for spamming. You know you want to.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Can't warn a moderator either. Muahahaha. :evil:

-edit- You know, there is one easy way to stop this. Just surrender now.

[Ironside]

Anyway, if someone is curious about my night activities, I've been working for ATPG since night 4. He can confirm it. I don't think he would approve of me giving out names.

I still feel insulted by this bandwagon without any relevant information. It's quite hard to have a defense against "he's a crook, trust me".

[Askthepizzaguy]

Anyway, if someone is curious about my night activities, I've been working for ATPG since night 4. He can confirm it. I don't think he would approve of me giving out names.

I still feel insulted by this bandwagon without any relevant information. It's quite hard to have a defense against "he's a crook, trust me".

I can confirm he's been part of pt groups and one successful vigilante kill. none of the pt groups have came back with anything better than inconclusive.

[naut]

Hey LittleGrizzly. How's the pasta?

[Moros]

Then I'd say its fair to try to get lordwinter lynched, unless he gives us good counter arguments? Also I suggest putting duck under pressure, lets see what that brings forth.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Vote: Lord Winter

so far he has no Alibi, like Ironside.

[shlin28]

Vote: Lord Winter

so far he has no Alibi, like Ironside.

Ironside does have an alibi...

Vote: AggonyDuck

I think his and Rhy's behaviour are very similar... maybe a connection between them 2? (In terms of role, maybe?)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tally

Ironside: 6 (Reenk Roink, Caius, White_Eyes, Chaotix, Beefy, Shinseikhaan)
Lord Winter: 6 (AggonyDuck, ACIN, Beskar, Joooray TinCow, Cultured Drizzt Fan)
Twilightblade: 3 (Lord Winter, slashandburn, woad&fangs)
AggonyDuck: 3 (Andres, Moros, shlin28)
Centurion1: 1 (SSNeoperestroika)

abstain: Twilightblade

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Yeah that what I meant, He does and lord winter doesn't...... :shame:

[Andres]

Ironside does have an alibi...

Vote: AggonyDuck

I think his and Rhy's behaviour are very similar... maybe a connection between them 2? (In terms of role, maybe?)

Ah, shlin28. That reminds me. In the meanwhile, I've been in a succesful vig attempt with three other townies (4 townies = minimum required number of townies for a succesful vig hit), which means that the innocent result on me at the beginning of the game, means that I started this game as a townie (and I'm still a townie).

So, it's not due to me that the protection on pevergreen failed.

That leaves you and Beefy187, if I'm not mistaken.

Have you been in a succesful townie group which had only the minimum of required townies? Same question to Beefy187? But you are more interesting, because if not+innocent on you early in game can only mean one thing: you're a Don.

Please, tell us.

[Reenk Roink]

Lord Winter is OK, he hung out with me at Club 30 all the time (yes he works with me in another capacity and no you won't get anything else).

Ironside is the best lynch of all the names submitted (and no you won't get anymore information that what has been given because it could jeopardize security of things).

Lynching AggonyDuck would be a mistake akin to lynching Rhyfelwer. If you really want to carry out foolish plans to kill lurkers, do it in vig missions.

Senseikhaan is obviously scum, I don't know why people haven't picked up on it. You don't even need a detective result to tell you, but go ahead and investigate him and see what happens.

edit: Beefy and shlin are great choices for lynches by the way. Beefy I am torn because he worked with me but undeniably I set him up to see if his protections would fail which they did... shlin should go first though, he is evil to the max.

For the "case" against Lord Winter, you don't think an unaffiliated wiseguy wouldn't be great in the hands of a town group seeking out scum?

[Andres]

Senseikhaan is obviously scum, I don't know why people haven't picked up on it. You don't even need a detective result to tell you, but go ahead and investigate him and see what happens.

edit: Beefy and shlin are great choices for lynches by the way. Beefy I am torn because he worked with me but undeniably I set him up to see if his protections would fail which they did... shlin should go first though, he is evil to the max.



Hmmm...

So, why is 'khaan obviously scum? Please, elaborate.

More details on Beefy187 and shlin28 please.

EDIT: 'Because I say so' is not good enough.

[TinCow]

Ironside is the best lynch of all the names submitted (and no you won't get anymore information that what has been given because it could jeopardize security of things)

Don't make me laugh. If the information is that good, you can find some way to get it out through an intermediary or to word it in such a way as to disguise its source. What you're doing now is only undermining your own case and will likely let him avoid the lynch.

[shlin28]

I am "EVIL TO THE MAX"? How so? I've been working protection groups, just like Beefy. Some of them failed, just like beefy. What's the difference between the two of us?

[Moros]

Beefy and shlin are great choices for lynches by the way. Beefy I am torn because he worked with me but undeniably I set him up to see if his protections would fail which they did... shlin should go first though, he is evil to the max.

Beefy has been continuing to protect people together with me. The three or four times we did it together, he always sended his pm's on time. None of them 'failed' because of him. The only thing that happened is that none of them were attacked. The third guy, you know who Reenk, hasn't been much punctual on his pm's though. So if anything shlin looks to be the culprit.

[Reenk Roink]

Beefy has been continuing to protect people together with me. The three or four times we did it together, he always sended his pm's on time. None of them 'failed' because of him. The only thing that happened is that none of them were attacked. The third guy, you know who Reenk, hasn't been much punctual on his pm's though. So if anything shlin looks to be the culprit.

Well, OK, I don't know DIRECTLY what is supposed to happen when a protection mission succeeds and yet the target is not attacked (as I have never been part of any such mission in Capo I or now).

Can someone confirm that in the abovementioned case, you are supposed to get NOTHING from Seamus? If so, there is no case on Beefy and I am very sorry to have suspected him. :oops:

In any case, shlin is the worst. In this round, I suggest Ironside and shlin be lynched with a double.

The dirt on khaan should be concrete by next round (FYI Andres, I strongly think he's scum because of analysis and gut - don't always wait up for detective results, because those are usually vague anyway).

Lastly, I trust Atpg a reasonable amount now. He's a Gman, but he's borne all the scrutiny without being caught in anything really bad. I suggest he be your director (or slashandburn - NOT PROLE!). Working together with him (with some targeted misinformation) I believe both the towns and his factions victory conditions will be met. :yes:

[Lord Winter]

Just because I haven't taken place in night actions with pizza doesn't mean I'm guilty. Either your going to lynch a wiseguy or your missing multiple bigger cases. What happened to Beefy surviving an attack and failing a protection group. What about Sasski trying to form a mafia family in the beginning. Shiln and Glyphx I believe have been in multiple failed protection groups. With these cases why I'm I being lynched off of heresy?

[shlin28]

Well, OK, I don't know DIRECTLY what is supposed to happen when a protection mission succeeds and yet the target is not attacked (as I have never been part of any such mission in Capo I or now).

Can someone confirm that in the abovementioned case, you are supposed to get NOTHING from Seamus? If so, there is no case on Beefy and I am very sorry to have suspected him. :oops:

In any case, shlin is the worst. In this round, I suggest Ironside and shlin be lynched with a double.

The dirt on khaan should be concrete by next round (FYI Andres, I strongly think he's scum because of analysis and gut - don't always wait up for detective results, because those are usually vague anyway).

Lastly, I trust Atpg a reasonable amount now. He's a Gman, but he's borne all the scrutiny without being caught in anything really bad. I suggest he be your director (or slashandburn - NOT PROLE!). Working together with him (with some targeted misinformation) I believe both the towns and his factions victory conditions will be met. :yes:

You get inconclusive if your potection succeeds but target is not attacked.

So just what makes me worse than Beefy?

[TinCow]

So just what makes me worse than Beefy?

The lack of anyone vouching for your activities at night.

[Myrddraal]

Just skim read the entire thread. As Seamus alluded to in the write up I was leaving for a week long trip on the night of my death. I was hoping to get myself replaced but it seems that's unnecessary now.

I will try to contribute but to be honest I'm drowning in new information right now and not able to make much sense of it.

[shlin28]

The lack of anyone vouching for your activities at night.

Ask ATPG, he knows all my actions (prot groups)

[Askthepizzaguy]

I can confirm he's signed up to at least six protection groups with me.

However, I believe some of them had mismatching orders. None have been successful. Then again, very few protection groups have ever spared someone.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just because I haven't taken place in night actions with pizza doesn't mean I'm guilty.

It doesn't mean you're innocent, either. :shrug: Can anyone verify it?

[TinCow]

The easiest solution to this is to lynch one of them. If the autopsy results show a non-mafioso, then lynch the other one. I recommend that shlin be the first to go.

[shlin28]

Unvote: Aggonyduck
Vote: shlin28

Happy now?

[Lord Winter]

The easiest solution to this is to lynch one of them. If the autopsy results show a non-mafioso, then lynch the other one. I recommend that shlin be the first to go.

I think the fact that Beefy survived a nightkill makes him a more important target.

[shlin28]

I think the fact that Beefy survived a nightkill makes him a more important target.

Beefy survived by luck :yes:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wasn't he targeted by the Kunai "killer" hoax?

I have to recheck. I don't think being attacked by Twilightblade means anything at all.

[Lord Winter]

Wasn't he targeted by the Kunai "killer" hoax?

I have to recheck. I don't think being attacked by Twilightblade means anything at all.

I thought it was a different guy on N1. Not sure though.

[ULC]

Vote: Lord Winter

Dodgy little bugger, aren't we? Answer only questions that suit you?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I thought it was a different guy on N1. Not sure though.



Beefy187[I] always enjoyed his evening walks. Following the meeting, he chose to walk along the main street, Atlantic Avenue, to gauge for himself the mood Fermanagh had claimed for the Fatlings. From the murmurs and scowls he saw exchanged as he walked a half-dozen blocks, it grew apparent that Fermanagh had been right – at least about this. Beefy paused for a moment, his eyes resting on the strange pole-sword that transfixed the thin Elm tree just in front of him.

<<Wasn’t that part of the shenanigans from the last time there was a committee? Why hasn’t someone just got rid of it? Silly sort of memento to…>>

Two kuni whirled in rapid succession out of the shadows under the trees of Seaside Park. The first, just missing Beefy’s neck, cut a thin line, like a shaving cut, along his jaw, thunking into the tree just below the ashenderei that Beefy had been admiring. The second, striking as Beefy began to drop prone, neatly snatched Beefy’s fedora from his head and pinned it – improbably enough – to the haft of the pole-sword itself. Beefy rolled as he dropped, but could do no more than catch a glimpse of a black-clad figure retreating quickly from the scene to the far side of Seaside Park. Only then did the Beefy’s legs turn to jelly and the shaking begin. His evening walks would never be quite so refreshing again.He was "targeted" on night one by the kuni/kunai "killer" as well. By my count, this wouldn't even affect his luck, if he had any.

Pointless distraction.

[Crazed Rabbit]

vote: shlin28

Out of the possible candidates, he seems the most scummy. The other choices seem like vague accusations against wiseguys.

CR

[Lord Winter]

Okay I see, nevermind Shiln will work then.

[Lord Winter]

unvote: Twighlightblade
Vote: Shiln

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tally

Lord Winter: 7 (AggonyDuck, ACIN, Beskar, Joooray, TinCow, Cultured Drizzt Fan, YLC)
Ironside: 6 (Reenk Roink, Caius, White_Eyes, Chaotix, Beefy, Shinseikhaan)
shlin28: 3 (shlin28, Crazed Rabbit, Lord Winter)
Twilightblade: 2 (slashandburn, woad&fangs)
AggonyDuck: 2 (Andres, Moros)
Centurion1: 1 (SSNeoperestroika)

abstain: Twilightblade


Please report any mistakes in the tally, if you see any.

[shlin28]

Presumably, only by lynching me will my "innocence" be proved?

Also, who did Andres kill and how many people were in the vig group?

[Andres]

Presumably, only by lynching me will my "innocence" be proved?

Also, who did Andres kill and how many people were in the vig group?

I took out Leet together with Kommodus and two other townies.

[Beskar]

Vote: Lord Winter

Dodgy little bugger, aren't we? Answer only questions that suit you?

I like this post. :beam::beam::beam::beam::beam: :smash: :yes: :laugh4:


:egypt:

[Beskar]

So Shlin28, I ask you now, before the trial of judges, are you innocent, or are you guilty? or have you been a naughty boy and killed someone?

I got a master class in bull:daisy:ology to know if you are lying or not.

[TinCow]

Unvote; Vote: Ironside

Sorry for the flip-flop. Private discussions have me leaning back this direction.

[Askthepizzaguy]

reminder; votes contained within edited posts aren't legal votes in this game, as per the rules.

:wink:

[TinCow]

Serves me right for correcting my punctuation.

Unvote; Vote: Ironside

[Tratorix]

Vote: Ironside Seems to be the only one with an actual case against him, even if it is just Reenk's word.

[Ironside]

Unvote; Vote: Ironside

Sorry for the flip-flop. Private discussions have me leaning back this direction.

Anything you wish to share?

[Double A]

Wow somehow I managed to get out of the flood of words...

uhh... vote: Sasaki. I want to know what he's doing.

[Diana Abnoba]

Vote: Lord Winter for the tie. I think we need another double lynch today. Both these players seem to be scummy to me.
As for Twilightblade, I think he could be trouble in the future, need to keep an eye on him, but for now not as much of a threat to town.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote:Cultured drizzt fan

Wouldn't surprise me if LW, shlin, ironside and half the people accusing them were all mafia...but Cultured is being a tad quiet if you ask me.

[Jolt]

Vote:Cultured drizzt fan

Wouldn't surprise me if LW, shlin, ironside and half the people accusing them were all mafia...but Cultured is being a tad quiet if you ask me.

This is definetly too true. CDF certainly has a role of some sort. After what happened in Rubicon, if he got another power role I doubt he would make the same mistake again, thus why he has been oh so quiet. He would be a priority for investigation.

[Beskar]

Twilight is sort of a threat, as he wastes a protection on some one.

[Double A]

And possibly luck.

[Askthepizzaguy]

We could always just agree that if Twilightblade does another Kunai fake killing, he gets lynched tomorrow (along with another candidate) for being unproductive, distracting, and a possible threat and/or mafia recruit.

:shrug:

That should resolve the Twilightblade issue.

[woad&fangs]

unvote: twilightblade; Vote: Ironsides

I don't get what the case against Lord Winter is. Wouldn't he have a guilty result if he had been killing? If Pizza's analysis is correct, we can't afford to lynch non-killers.

Shinseikhaan is being too quiet for my liking, but it doesn't look like a vote for him would matter this round. Any chance someone with a detective ability could look into him during the night?

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote: twilightblade; Vote: Ironsides

I don't get what the case against Lord Winter is. Wouldn't he have a guilty result if he had been killing?

Criminal results do not necessarily mean Wiseguys never having killed anyone. They could also indicate a made gangster or a luca.


Detective:

May investigate two persons per night phase. The investigation will list the individual as innocent (Townie, Don), criminal (Luca, Made not killing, Wise Guy not having killed at all, and some townies), or guilty (Luca or Made on the night of kill, Wise Guy or Townie who has killed – you either get the current kill or their whole track record as well). Acts as a Townie in other respects. Always reads as “innocent” if investigated.

The Lucas would most likely not have killed last night, for obvious reasons. This was from last night, I believe. A luca or a made not killing would register as criminal for last night. There are very few criminal results and plenty of lucas and mades remaining.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

We could always just agree that if Twilightblade does another Kunai fake killing, he gets lynched tomorrow (along with another candidate) for being unproductive, distracting, and a possible threat and/or mafia recruit.

:shrug:

That should resolve the Twilightblade issue.

I disagree with this completely. I will vote for T'blade if he doesn't do a kunai fake kill.

[DisgruntledGoat]

And some townies....

Personally, a criminal result on its own isn't enough to lynch someone so I don't think Lord Winter warrants lynching at this time. So

Vote: Ironsides

[White_eyes:D]

I disagree with this completely. I will vote for T'blade if he doesn't do a kunai fake kill.

I hate to agree with Sasaki.....but at least we know what he is doing...:shrug:

[Double A]

I disagree with this completely. I will vote for T'blade if he doesn't do a kunai fake kill.

Gotta agree with ya

[TinCow]

I disagree with this completely. I will vote for T'blade if he doesn't do a kunai fake kill.
:yes:

Twilightblade has provided himself with a solid alibi for the entire game. If he continues as he has been doing, he shouldn't be lynched.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Well I was thinking more like "the kill write ups are awesome", but that alibi thing works too I guess.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Huh.

I guess I'm the only one who thought he should be doing something. :shrug:

Very well, carry on... he wasn't my top suspect anyway.

[slashandburn]

Unvote;Vote: IronsidesEveryone else has a verifiable alibi.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Several reasons I have been quiet....

1. I am spending some time with my family, Not much of summer left and we are trying to make it count.

2. I don't have much to say.... Sadly I Don't know anything about what is really going on, So I feel kind of like a useless band-wagoner. I feel like anything I add would be useless and probably a lie.

I will just do what I can in the protection groups and thats about it. :sweatdrop:

:laugh4::laugh4: I just realized that today I have hardly been on the Org at all, Which is weird considering how addicted I am to it. :laugh4: God bless summer!

[Moros]

unvote, vote: lordwinter
(for the tie)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tally


Ironside: 11 (Reenk Roink, Caius, White_Eyes, Chaotix, Beefy, Shinseikhaan, TinCow, Tratorix, woad&fangs, DisgruntledGoat, slashandburn)
Lord Winter: 8 (AggonyDuck, ACIN, Beskar, Joooray, Cultured Drizzt Fan, YLC, Diana abnoba, Moros)
shlin28: 3 (shlin28, Crazed Rabbit, Lord Winter)
AggonyDuck: 1 (Andres)
Centurion1: 1 (SSNeoperestroika)
Cultured Drizzt Fan: 1 (Sasaki)

abstain: Twilightblade

[Beefy187]

Wasn't he targeted by the Kunai "killer" hoax?

I have to recheck. I don't think being attacked by Twilightblade means anything at all.

TB confirmed the attack on me couple page back by saying "Its only because I care" or something along the line.

I'll

Unvote, Vote: Lord Winter

to go for a double lynch.
Also what Moros said is true. Our protection was inconclusive as our target wasn't attacked. And there was one or two occasions that one of the member couldn't send in his orders in time.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Ugh, another ******* double lynch!

[Moros]

Lets update it with every post so that we can easily keep a tie.

Tally:


Ironside: 10 (Reenk Roink, Caius, White_Eyes, Chaotix, Shinseikhaan, TinCow, Tratorix, woad&fangs, DisgruntledGoat, slashandburn)
Lord Winter: 9 (AggonyDuck, ACIN, Beskar, Joooray, Cultured Drizzt Fan, YLC, Diana abnoba, Moros, Beefy)
shlin28: 3 (shlin28, Crazed Rabbit, Lord Winter)
AggonyDuck: 1 (Andres)
Centurion1: 1 (SSNeoperestroika)
Cultured Drizzt Fan: 1 (Sasaki)

abstain: Twilightblade

[Proletariat]

I don't understand the case against Ironsides at all. Because Reenk said so?

Vote: Lord Winter get a tie going, I guess

[Proletariat]

Tally:


Ironside: 10 (Reenk Roink, Caius, White_Eyes, Chaotix, Shinseikhaan, TinCow, Tratorix, woad&fangs, DisgruntledGoat, slashandburn)
Lord Winter: 10 (AggonyDuck, ACIN, Beskar, Joooray, Cultured Drizzt Fan, YLC, Diana abnoba, Moros, Beefy, prole)
shlin28: 3 (shlin28, Crazed Rabbit, Lord Winter)
AggonyDuck: 1 (Andres)
Centurion1: 1 (SSNeoperestroika)
Cultured Drizzt Fan: 1 (Sasaki)

abstain: Twilightblade

[pevergreen]

Huh.

I guess I'm the only one who thought he should be doing something. :shrug:

Very well, carry on... he wasn't my top suspect anyway.

Trust me, compared to his normal playstyle, he is being incredibly helpful to the town.

He was once a contender with Warluster for a special title...that no one wanted.

[Tratorix]

I don't understand the case against Ironsides at all. Because Reenk said so?

Vote: Lord Winter get a tie going, I guess

Yeah, the case against LW, because ATPG said so, is far more compelling. :rolleyes:

[Ironside]

Unvote;Vote: IronsidesEveryone else has a verifiable alibi.

I feel quite insulted of that, the only thing presented is an old hunch from RR. I haven't even really been doing anything mafia like at any point of the game. ATPG even trusted me enough to suggest us together in a protection team this night, if I would survive. I suppose he'll regret that now. :smash: Then again, I've been expecting someone to connect the dots since day 3 and actually giving a really strong case against me. But no, RR couldn't even lie about the data needed for that.

I'm not sure who're luckier, the town or mafia. You see I am mafia, a luca in fact, but have hardly been the most dangerous mafia for the town. That will change...

As I'm been infiltrating ATPG:s groups, I've gotten a few names from there. Not all mind you. With the groups weakened, you can hit the inner circle. Obviously, some of these may be mafia, so hit them carefully.

Skooma Addict, White Eyes, Joooray, KukriKhan, shlin28, glyphz, Tratorix have been members of ATPG:s protector groups.

slashandburn, TinCow, Diana Abnoba have been protected.

The suggested protection for tonight were protecting Shinseikhaan with woad&fangs and slashandburn.

And don't celebrate Reenk Roink just yet. You see, there's namely a courier cobana in play whom I suspect is this Capo's version of the wolf from Capo I. He get's all messages relayed through Seamus.

And RR has been more or less involved in the death of 3 lucas. I doubt you'll need to recap that both me and discovery were proclaimed to have killing powers (notice that he didn't produce any criminal result or any info on why we were scummy). And his lucky detective work has given nothing after that.
ATPG did your source that named discovery as a luca have a connection to RR?
And with the lynching of GH, he was quick to follow up on Kommodus accusation with:


Screw what Kommodus says, lynch GH because he keeps trying to usurp my position. :snobby:

An approval hidden as a joke.

So either he got very lucky, or he has some extra knowledge. He sell me out as a lynch without producing any relevant information and is obviously pushing for it aswell, just out of the blue...

Coincidence? Perhaps. Or we're looking at the Courier Cobana, or someone provided with the luca names. Somehow I doubt that counts as protown.


Finally, I'll provide an excellent recruiting service post mortem.
Any wise guys willing to follow the path of the mafia can contact me and I'll put groups together that can kill under my family. Your indentity will be kept secret except for your fellow partner. Not sure how much Seamus will accept such rule bending (not breaking I checked that). So Seamus, if this is pushing the rules too hard, please remove this part.

Finally:
Vote: Ironside. Withouit the s (where did that come from?)

Time to go out with a bang shouldn't I? I expect a good lynch ATPG.

[Lord Winter]

I think this is the first game I've seen where we've gone 2,000 posts and still haven't written up a case against anyone.

[Caius]

Sorry to see you go, hope you are feeling better soon.
I AM NOT LEAVING, I THINK I CAN HANDLE THIS FOR A FEW DAYS.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Unvote; Vote: Ironside He just admitted he is mafia.

[TinCow]

I feel quite insulted of that, the only thing presented is an old hunch from RR.

...

You see I am mafia, a luca in fact

Kudos on your superb rebuttal of RR's wafer thin case. I shall think twice before voting based on his hunch next time.

[Tratorix]

I'll never understnad why some people decide to reveal themselves as mafia before they're lynched. Gains absolutely nothing and you no longer even have a slight chance of surviving. Unvote: Ironside, Vote: Ironside.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You see I am mafia

You just confessed to being mafia.

[Tratorix]

You just confessed to being mafia.

Yeah, but he also revealed the names of a few people taking part in protection groups. Take that, town!

[Crazed Rabbit]

Unvote: shlin28
vote: Ironside

Should be obvious...

CR

[Beskar]

Remember we are meant to tie it with Lord Winter, to get rid of two mafia..

Just saying.

[LittleGrizzly]

Put my vote to good use...

Vote Ironside

I would have at least tried to make some kind of defence of myself...

[White_eyes:D]

Be helpful if we could get a tally:fishing:

[scotchedpommes]

Well, it would appear Ironside has successfully drawn votes away from Lord Winter.

[Askthepizzaguy]

How about a tied vote? We can vig him if he breaks the tie.

[Beskar]

Hey, you Ironside voters, keep it tied with Lord Winter. We want to lynch two Mafia, not one.

Two > One

[scotchedpommes]

I'd doubt everyone jumping on there honestly needs it explained.

Unvote: Centurion1; Vote: Lord Winter

[Splitpersonality]

Vote:Lord Winter

[Reenk Roink]

FoS on anyone voting Lord Winter. I already told you I vouched for him... :whip:

edit: I will have someone who votes for Lord Winter killed maybe, as there is a good chance to find Mafia there... :stare:

[Diana Abnoba]

Unvote: Lord Winter Vote: Ironside

[KukriKhan]

FoS on anyone voting Lord Winter. I already told you I vouched for him... :whip:

edit: I will have someone who votes for Lord Winter killed maybe, as there is a good chance to find Mafia there... :stare:

vote: Lord Winter

Sad. Mr. Roink has gone from a 10 to a 1 in the Kukri reliability index. Bring on the killers, scum.

[Diana Abnoba]

I AM NOT LEAVING, I THINK I CAN HANDLE THIS FOR A FEW DAYS.

Glad to see that you are feeling better, at least enough to continue playing.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh, by the way Ironside... :mellow:

Way to get the names of people from PT7. :applause: You'll really bring me down now.

I think I'll take a page out of Reenk's playbook, because it's just so appropriate here.

:rolleyes: :laugh4: :rolleyes: :laugh4: :rolleyes: :laugh4: :rolleyes: :laugh4: :rolleyes: :laugh4: :rolleyes: :laugh4:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Oh, by the way Ironside... :mellow:

Way to get the names of people from PT7. :applause: You'll really bring me down now.

I think I'll take a page out of Reenk's playbook, because it's just so appropriate here.

:rolleyes: :laugh4: :rolleyes: :laugh4: :rolleyes: :laugh4: :rolleyes: :laugh4: :rolleyes: :laugh4: :rolleyes: :laugh4:

Don't you think that's an overreaction? Sharing names of protection group members and asking for recruits is a tried and tested capo strategy. It works well.

[Lord Winter]

Can we raise the level of accusations in the future. The towns just asking to be lead astray if we keep relaying on these vague, and possibly forged, detective results. At least add in some in thread analysis?

[glyphz]

Vote: Ironside

Perhaps the one responsible for the failed protection of Diana Abnoba back in N4

[Centurion1]

I won't vote until i see a tally do not want to mess up the tie. (and invoke the towns wrath.....)

[Reenk Roink]

vote: Lord Winter

Sad. Mr. Roink has gone from a 10 to a 1 in the Kukri reliability index. Bring on the killers, scum.

Why? How are you so sure that Lord Winter is guilty Kukri, because it goes against my entire dealings with the guy... :inquisitive:

Now you guys are just setting it up so that Ironside can unvote and bring his buddies to save him. I feel like not even bothering if this is the townie response. :shame:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ironside: 16 (Reenk Roink, Caius, White_Eyes, Chaotix, Shinseikhaan, TinCow, Tratorix, woad&fangs, DisgruntledGoat, slashandburn, Ironside, ACIN, Crazed Rabbit, LittleGrizzly, Diana abnoba, glyphz

Lord Winter: 11 (AggonyDuck, , Beskar, Joooray, Cultured Drizzt Fan, YLC,, Moros, Beefy, prole, SSNeoperestroika, splitpersonality, Kukrikhan)

shlin28: 2 (shlin28, Lord Winter)
AggonyDuck: 1 (Andres)
Cultured Drizzt Fan: 1 (Sasaki)

abstain: Twilightblade

[ULC]

Can we raise the level of accusations in the future. The towns just asking to be lead astray if we keep relaying on these vague, and possibly forged, detective results. At least add in some in thread analysis?

Your actions are unaccounted for, You've never been helpful beyond trying to push cases that no longer have any bearing and never did, you've dodged questions when it has suited you, you've tried to curry favor with a former director, you have a criminal and loyal result on you, indicating most likely mafia or near mafia aligned status, and now, when the town has come to a decision, you and a select few are the only ones to disagree with it while not really staying why except vague reasons that we just shouldn't.

[Centurion1]

Ok vote: Abstain unless a tie becomes more viable.

[Proletariat]

Unvote: Lord Winter, Vote: Ironside

I still think Lord Winter is scummy tho. He's the only one who voted for me last round when I've been verified as an FBI Agent, as johnhugh's autopsy proves. Plus everything YLC just stated.

Ironside: 17 (Reenk Roink, Caius, White_Eyes, Chaotix, Shinseikhaan, TinCow, Tratorix, woad&fangs, DisgruntledGoat, slashandburn, Ironside, ACIN, Crazed Rabbit, LittleGrizzly, Diana abnoba, glyphz, prole

Lord Winter: 10 (AggonyDuck, , Beskar, Joooray, Cultured Drizzt Fan, YLC,, Moros, Beefy, SSNeoperestroika, splitpersonality, Kukrikhan)

shlin28: 2 (shlin28, Lord Winter)
AggonyDuck: 1 (Andres)
Cultured Drizzt Fan: 1 (Sasaki)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Your actions are unaccounted for, You've never been helpful beyond trying to push cases that no longer have any bearing and never did, you've dodged questions when it has suited you, you've tried to curry favor with a former director, you have a criminal and loyal result on you, indicating most likely mafia or near mafia aligned status, and now, when the town has come to a decision, you and a select few are the only ones to disagree with it while not really staying why except vague reasons that we just shouldn't.

What is this, the McCarthy approach to finding mafia?

"your actions unaccounted for"
"never been helpful"
"you and a select few"

:dizzy2:

[ULC]

What is this, the McCarthy approach to finding mafia?

"your actions unaccounted for"
"never been helpful"
"you and a select few"

:dizzy2:

It is the era indeed. And in any case, I am starting to not care - may drop from the game.

[Lord Winter]

Your actions are unaccounted for, You've never been helpful beyond trying to push cases that no longer have any bearing and never did, you've dodged questions when it has suited you, you've tried to curry favor with a former director, you have a criminal and loyal result on you, indicating most likely mafia or near mafia aligned status, and now, when the town has come to a decision, you and a select few are the only ones to disagree with it while not really staying why except vague reasons that we just shouldn't.

Already addressed my actions. Can you point out a specific case that is especially weak? I still stand by the arguments that I made at the time. I've answered all questions which I haven't already answered. If there is one I missed bring it up again. I have addressed my criminal status, and the loyal status means nothing, just that according to AtPG that I'm not a communist. I don't know what disagreement you're referring to.

@Prole how does his result confirm your role?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

The last of england’s spoiled brats
Grand order of the gutter rats
A big fish in a public house
You’re never going to learn to shut your mouth
A silly pseudo lager lout
With nothing much to shout about
Spent hours looking in the mirror
Trying to perfect the perfect pout

Now take the spotlight
And pause for your applause
Well my oh my you’re such a big boy
On a saturday night
You try but there is always something
Something not right inside
There’s always someone
Somebody else to take
The power and the glory
All for themselves

-- Kirsty Maccoll & Mark Nevin "Big Boy on a Saturday Night"



Evening Session, Day Eight


The new Director observed the committee meeting, the first since his predecessor left office. There appeared to be some productive and lively discussion, and he was encouraged by this. As the day faded into night, a sudden revelation made the choice for the lynch clearer for many – despite some calling for another “twofer.”

The votes were counted, and the lynchee was chosen. Director Askthepizzaguy was informed immediately, and he began to suit up. Meanwhile, Ironside was told that he had recieved the most votes, and was given the fateful business card, and was told to proceed to Club 30.

Ironside wondered why he should bother going to Club 30 at all; perhaps he could simply escape. As he tried to leave the meeting in the wrong direction, a group of townspeople noticed and chased after him. Ironside ducked into an alley and tried to climb the chain link fence to the other side, but the path was blocked by a trio of Rottweilers. Seeing a nearby fire escape, Ironside quickly scampered up to the roof and looked for a suitable escape route. From the south, Ironside could already hear the sounds of police sirens, and so he headed in the opposite direction, jumping from rooftop to rooftop.

The townspeople down on the street level attempted to give chase (with all the turmoil anything resembling a riot or mob attack had its appeal), but the path around the buildings was not as direct as simply moving over them. After several minutes of sprinting and death-defying jumps, Ironside was far ahead of the mob. He spotted a flagpole near the edge of the building, and used it as a handy slide back down to the ground level. After checking to see if the coast was clear, Ironside tried to catch his breath and act casually as he walked down the street.

When he turned the corner, he could not believe what he saw. Somehow he had gotten turned completely around and now he was right across the street from Club 30. He turned up the collar on his trench coat and tried to sneak past the Club, which was packed with Fatlings. Most of the people on the street paid him no mind, so he began to relax his guard. Heading to the club was an assortment of Fatlings of all kinds, from the very well-dressed young couple, to an elderly woman with a cane. A number of business men arrived in long black stretch limousines. Across the street, a couple of movers were attempting to hoist a piano into the upper floor of an apartment building. A news stand was closing up for the evening. Ironside noticed that his shoelaces had come untied during the chase, so he bent down to tie them. As he did so, a bullet whizzed past his head. He immediately rolled out of harm's way and began to sprint down the street as fast as he could, glancing back only for a moment to see who might be shooting at him.

The shooter threw off his disguise, and from underneath the old woman's shawl appeared a man in a dashing black suit, black shades, and a red tie. He was wielding a gun that looked exactly like a cane. The Director took aim and fired at a trash can near Ironside's location just as he was running by, and the trash can exploded, knocking Ironside off his feet and into the street. The Director dropped the cane gun and reached for his .38 Colt Special, and approached his target. He took aim, and then fired several rounds. Ironside had brought a bullet proof vest, so it was not surprising that the first several shots didn't kill him. What was strange is that he didn't feel the impact of the bullets at all. Not wasting a moment, Ironside pulled out a large black handgun of his own and pointed it at the Director.

The loud blaring noise of a horn from a furniture truck startled Ironside and he dove out of its path. The truck's tires had been blown out from the Director's .38 and it had nearly killed Ironside as it lost control and swerved toward him. The Director aimed his .38 once more and fired in the general direction of his target. Ironside wondered where he had been hit, but he didn't feel any pain. He looked up and saw that the grand piano, which had been suspended by rope over the sidewalk, was now hurtling toward his head. Ironside tried to jump out of the way, but he had been standing on his untied shoelace and he fell flat on his face, just as the grand piano fell on the rest of him. Askthepizzaguy calmly adjusted his tie, and then cracked his knuckles. He then proceeded to play "Chopsticks" on the shattered piano. The two movers gave the Director a round of polite applause.

He bowed gracefully, and then hopped into his nearby blue Jaguar XK 120 (one of the original 200 with the aluminium body), placed his white fedora on his head, and drove off into the night. The bumper sticker on the rear of the vehicle read 'Don't tread on me' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db1s-eV-Bd0).


OOC

Night Orders for Night 8 will be due no later than 2100 Eastern on Tuesday (0100 Wed. GMT)



Lynch Tally

1st Ironside: 15 (a completely inoffensive name, Caius, Chaotix, Crazed Rabbit, Diana Abnoba, DisgruntledGoat, Ironside, LittleGrizzly, Reenk Roink, Shinseikhaan, slashandburn, TinCow, Tratorix, White_Eyes:D, woad&fangs)

2nd Lord Winter: 11 (AggonyDuck, Beefy187, Beskar, Cultured Drizzt Fan, Joooray, Kukrikhan, Moros, Proletariat, spL1tp3r50naL1ty, SSNeoperestroika, YLC)

3rd shlin28: 2 (shlin28, Lord Winter)

4th/5th AggonyDuck: 1 (Andres)

4th/5th Cultured Drizzt Fan: 1 (Sasaki Kojiro)

Abstain: 1 (Twilightblade)

Votes changed/lodged late by: glyphz and prole for Ironside

[Crazed Rabbit]

Why are we going for a double vote here? Do not let the success of the past deceive you; going for a tie is always tricky.

We've got an admitted ( :dizzy2: ) luca here. Lord Winter appears to be nothing like that, and is vouched for by Reenk, the same person who put suspicion on Ironside. Why are we gambling with Ironside getting away from the lynch?

Am I the only one who remembers the failed attempts at multiple lynchings in previous games? :wall:

EDIT: nevermind.

CR

[Reenk Roink]

To further tell you what Lord Winter has been up to, since it doesn't matter anymore because the suspicion on him has ruined the plan he was doing... :shame: :wall:

Lord Winter was one of my workers as a wiseguy, but I never needed him for a protection and I decided against vig kills so he became kinda useless, until he suggested he try and infiltrate Mafia families. HOW DO YOU THINK I GOT THE INFORMATION ON IRONSIDE?

The guy is a freaking hero and you guys want to crucify him. :shame:

Lastly, shlin is 70% a Don and so you should lynch him next round. GG I am probably dead. :balloon2:

[KukriKhan]

Why? How are you so sure that Lord Winter is guilty Kukri, because it goes against my entire dealings with the guy... :inquisitive:

Now you guys are just setting it up so that Ironside can unvote and bring his buddies to save him. I feel like not even bothering if this is the townie response. :shame:

Honestly, it was the unmitigated arrogance of:


edit: I will have someone who votes for Lord Winter killed maybe, as there is a good chance to find Mafia there...

I may be a mere townie (as you apparently know), with no particular skills and deliberately left in-the-dark by the game mechanic - I can be pursuaded, explained to, convinced - but I will not be: bullied.

How am I so sure? I'm not so sure. No townie can be. But your mysterious vouching ("Trust Me"), couched in enigmatic references to info you will not/cannot share, amplified by a threat to have anyone who fails to comply with your advice killed, prompted my vote; thinking that my subsequent death may prove to incriminate you, who may have hoaxed our dear town all this time.

[Askthepizzaguy]

To further tell you what Lord Winter has been up to, since it doesn't matter anymore because the suspicion on him has ruined the plan he was doing... :shame: :wall:

Lord Winter was one of my workers as a wiseguy, but I never needed him for a protection and I decided against vig kills so he became kinda useless, until he suggested he try and infiltrate Mafia families. HOW DO YOU THINK I GOT THE INFORMATION ON IRONSIDE?

The guy is a freaking hero and you guys want to crucify him. :shame:

Lastly, shlin is 70% a Don and so you should lynch him next round. GG I am probably dead. :balloon2:

Interesting info...

Okay, lord winter is off the hook for now. :bow:

[a completely inoffensive name]

To further tell you what Lord Winter has been up to, since it doesn't matter anymore because the suspicion on him has ruined the plan he was doing... :shame: :wall:

Lord Winter was one of my workers as a wiseguy, but I never needed him for a protection and I decided against vig kills so he became kinda useless, until he suggested he try and infiltrate Mafia families. HOW DO YOU THINK I GOT THE INFORMATION ON IRONSIDE?

The guy is a freaking hero and you guys want to crucify him. :shame:

Lastly, shlin is 70% a Don and so you should lynch him next round. GG I am probably dead. :balloon2:

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!

[Reenk Roink]

Honestly, it was the unmitigated arrogance of:

I may be a mere townie (as you apparently know), with no particular skills and deliberately left in-the-dark by the game mechanic - I can be pursuaded, explained to, convinced - but I will not be: bullied.

How am I so sure? I'm not so sure. No townie can be. But your mysterious vouching ("Trust Me"), couched in enigmatic references to info you will not/cannot share, amplified by a threat to have anyone who fails to comply with your advice killed, prompted my vote; thinking that my subsequent death may prove to incriminate you, who may have hoaxed our dear town all this time.

How does the threat to kill from a group of people that are doing a scummy action make one scummy?

Think about it reasonably Kukri. You have a confessed Mafia, and yet there is a build up for a tie, when that Mafia himself has self voted (meaning the possibility for a huge swing). Given that Mafia have friends in this game, we could easily have had a situation where the Mafia would get free and the one who actually was responsible for flushing him out would take the bullet.

Now then, is it not reasonable to assume that the late voters for Lord Winter were doing so on behest of Ironside, who is a confessed killer, and so were likely in cahoots with him?

Add to the fact that despite me pointing it out many times, nobody payed much heed to my stating that I indeed was vouching for Lord Winter's previous actions.

Perhaps because you weren't aware of the situational irony of Lord Winter potentially being lynched when he was the one who had smoked out Ironside, you cannot feel the frustration and desperation I had when I saw all our work go for naught.

And my subsequent moves to rectify that make me scummy. Ah well. :shrug:

[gibsonsg91921]

Dang, I've been moving into college and stuff. You dudes post too much.

[pevergreen]

You dudes post too much.

Everyones view on CDTC. :yes:

Reenk...settle down my friend. MY PADAWAN.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!
Brick!!!!!
(http://www.entertonement.com/clips/xcblrrwkck--Anchorman-The-Legend-of-Ron-Burgundy-Steve-Carell-Brick-Tamland-Don%27t-Know-What-We%27re-Yelling-About)
:laugh4:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Oh and Vote:Abstain, as I see no one to vote for that is logical atm.

This struck me as suspicious...Ironside was surely a perfectly logical choice?? :dizzy2:

[Askthepizzaguy]

reminder to everyone in my groups:

If you don't forward me the night order I can't vouch for you if there's a problem. Cover your butt, forward the order. At the very least it proves that you claimed to do the action. Anyone who doesn't make that claim will be the first to experience reprisal if the group fails. If everyone makes the claim, and they all survive, that's also how we catch you lying.

Be good, do well. Forward the order. :bow:

[AggonyDuck]

Gah, this is what I get for not bothering to read all the pages.

[KukriKhan]

Think about it reasonably Kukri...

...Perhaps because you weren't aware of the situational irony of Lord Winter potentially being lynched when he was the one who had smoked out Ironside, you cannot feel the frustration and desperation I had when I saw all our work go for naught.

And my subsequent moves to rectify that make me scummy. Ah well. :shrug:

You've explained it well, so if I could, I would change my vote.

And I retract my "scum" remark about you. My apologies. :bow:

[shlin28]

Lastly, shlin is 70% a Don and so you should lynch him next round. GG I am probably dead. :balloon2:

Again... explain, please!

Your reasons for me being a Don:

I have an innocent result
Some of my prot groups failed

In both cases, lots of others are in identical situations as me. I want a proper case if you want to accuse me.

[TinCow]

I want a proper case if you want to accuse me.

The fact remains that either you or Beefy is scum. You, Beefy, and Andres all claim to have submitted proper orders to protect pevergreen. Since pevergreen died, one of you is lying. Andres was investigated as innocent and later participated in a successful vigilante kill. Dons cannot do that, so Andres is therefore a townie and thus cleared of suspicion. That leaves you and Beefy, which results in 50% odds that you are a Don. Since Reenk apparently infiltrated a mafia family with Lord Winter, it doesn't take a lot of imagination to figure out where his extra 20% comes from.

[Andres]

Gah, this is what I get for not bothering to read all the pages.

So, you noticed that you weren't about to get lynched and thus decided that it isn't worth it to reply to the questions?

[Splitpersonality]

This struck me as suspicious...Ironside was surely a perfectly logical choice?? :dizzy2:

I had not caught up on everything at that time, I simply wanted to put a vote down while I caught up.

[Sigurd]

Andres was investigated as innocent and later participated in a successful vigilante kill. Dons cannot do that, so Andres is therefore a townie and thus cleared of suspicion.
That is not true. My Don Corleone PM from Capo II reads:


3. You may participate in Townie Vigilante teams or in Protection teams, however: a) Your Luca cannot protect you during a night you’re so involved, and b) while you function normally as a vigilante (1 of 4 needed) you cannot provide any protection value so any protection team where you are not an “extra” WILL fail.

If you have information to the contrary, you must have read a Capo III Don PM.

edit: Andres will only be redeemed if he is investigated again and is found guilty. A Don will be listed as innocent even if he participates in Vig. killings.

[TinCow]

Interesting, thanks for the information Sigurd.

[Andres]

That is not true. My Don Corleone PM from Capo II reads:

If you have information to the contrary, you must have read a Capo III Don PM.

edit: Andres will only be redeemed if he is investigated again and is found guilty. A Don will be listed as innocent even if he participates in Vig. killings.

Fine by me.

What have you been up to at night time during the course of the game, Sigurd?

[Sigurd]

What have you been up to at night time during the course of the game, Sigurd?
That my friend is on a need to know basis. And since you don't need to know ... :beam:

[Congrats on another 2,000-poster, Seamus! - GH]