The Shadow Fort [Concluded]

[Beefy187]

Also I figure we should choose a leader, and that leader should be me. I won't be a harsh one, I only require three things:
1. Complete obedience. (not that hard, people have done that many times throughout history)
2. All your money. (Im doing good in my AP Econ class so I think I can safely say I would be better at money management then at least 50% of cults out there)
3. At least one internet meme in everyones post. (For every time you quote or reference Pulp Fiction, Fight Club or Die Hard you are granted one post that doesn't need an internet meme in it.)

I don't think this is so hard, only one person has ever died following these rules:
His name is Robert Paulson.

As long as you can handle the flood of information.

[a completely inoffensive name]

As long as you can handle the flood of information.

If by handle you mean skim through and wing it, then I'm your man.

[Csargo]

That's basically how I live my life.

AppointGodGeneralSirMan:ACIN

[Renata]

(PM box now clear.)

[Crazed Rabbit]

First Day Phase Closed.

Tallying votes.

CR

[Crazed Rabbit]

Gerard, sitting in a large oaken chair behind a larger table, counted the votes, or rather the voters, who lined up to express their views.

It was late in the evening now. The inner court glowed warm from the fire and candles. The doors were opened and the night sky loomed like a black maw.

Gerard shuddered and glanced back down at the tally he had made. Again he felt a pang of doubt. Was this the best way? To have a mob of scared people decide to kill people?

Perhaps he should take back control, and decide who to execute himself...he put his pen down and gazed at the ceiling.

"You know you can't do that," said Hans, standing behind him.

"You don't know what I mean to do," Gerard shot back. Hans just smiled.

After double checking his tally twice, then twice again, Gerard stood up. The crowd was nervous, and silent. A few faces glanced from Gerard to the space behind him, where armed men stood ready.

"Men - soldiers...and travelers. The tally has been made, and a decision reached. There will be no lynch this night.
"I suppose that," Gerard hesitated, "that this is for the best tonight. We have little information right now. It will be up to you to find the spies and get them lynched.
"One more thing, before you go - I see some people decided not to participate and 'voted' to simply ignore these proceedings," his voice gained a sharp edge, "This will not be tolerated! If you are in this fort, you will help, or you will be thrown out!"

Gerard turned and strode back to his chambers. The crowd murmured and people began talking between themselves.

Tally:
No Lynch; 7 (Seamus, Jolt, Tincow, TheFlax, Scienter, Centurion1, Seon)
Ibn-Khaldun; 3 (Khaan, Kagemusha, Beskar)
Subotan; 3 (ACIN, CDF, AVSM)
Methos; 3 (ATPG, White Eyes, Reenk Roink)
Abstain; 2 (split, Subotan)
Others; (Everyone else but Sigurd)

The Night Phase has begun. Please send in your orders by 11 pm PST March 11th (or 22.5 hours or so from now).

In the next day phase, no abstaining will be allowed. Voting not to lynch will be frowned on (unlike this day phase).

Please refer to the rules to make sure you send in orders correctly. Feel free to ask questions if you need to.

CR

[Beskar]

No lynch in a Large game where people can be converted? You got to be kidding me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

No lynch in a Large game where people can be converted? You got to be kidding me.

Then you should have followed my lead, and shown the Randomgods their proper respect, and destroyed the unbeliever known as Methos.

[Beskar]

Then you should have followed my lead, and shown the Randomgods their proper respect, and destroyed the unbeliever known as Methos.

The Beefy God is higher in the food chain, it was obvious Ibn-Khaldun was the droid we was looking for.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If you're so sure, do something about it, or quiet your tongue, knave! http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/backstab.gif

[Beefy187]

When two cults meet each other.... There will be blood.
Do you bite your thumb at us sir?

[Beskar]

If you're so sure, do something about it, or quiet your tongue, knave! http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/backstab.gif

Death to the infidel!

[Diamondeye]

Also I figure we should choose a leader, and that leader should be me. I won't be a harsh one, I only require three things:
1. Complete obedience. (not that hard, people have done that many times throughout history)
2. All your money. (Im doing good in my AP Econ class so I think I can safely say I would be better at money management then at least 50% of cults out there)
3. At least one internet meme in everyones post. (For every time you quote or reference Pulp Fiction, Fight Club or Die Hard you are granted one post that doesn't need an internet meme in it.)

I don't think this is so hard, only one person has ever died following these rules:
His name is Robert Paulson.

This makes so much sense. I'm voting ACIN for leader. He is an hero.

[Thermal]

So why do you think there will be one less kill? Does it say that in your spy role pm? :beam:

If the rules specify that mafia work in groups (which I also addressed, so I was a tad hypocritical, unintentionally though) then why would it say that in a spy role pm?

One word

Paranoia

And apart from that, jumping on my bandwagon for no apparent reason, you are quite the interesting player. :smiley:

:grin:

[Secura]

Beskar has headed back home for his birthday, and his family is in the process of redecorating their living room. They've unplugged his modem and wireless router and he's unable to find the former under the masses of wallpaper and such, so he won't have internet access for the next few days.

He sends his apologies to anyone relying on him for the night phase. :3

[Sasaki Kojiro]

If the rules specify that mafia work in groups (which I also addressed, so I was a tad hypocritical, unintentionally though) then why would it say that in a spy role pm?

One word

Paranoia

And apart from that, jumping on my bandwagon for no apparent reason, you are quite the interesting player. :smiley:

:grin:

I don't understand how that first part answers my question.

Do you mind telling me what it says in the spy role pm? Do you have one or not?

Why do you think I'm paranoid?

What do you mean by interesting?

[Centurion1]

i hate this dam ink

[Subotan]

I don't understand how that first part answers my question.

Do you mind telling me what it says in the spy role pm? Do you have one or not?

Why do you think I'm paranoid?

What do you mean by interesting?
https://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll286/Phalanxia/Tin.jpg?t=1268347680

[Thermal]

I don't understand how that first part answers my question.

Do you mind telling me what it says in the spy role pm? Do you have one or not?

Why do you think I'm paranoid?

What do you mean by interesting?

Uhh, I'll re-alliterate.

I was initially assuming one mafia could produce one kill individually, but the Starting thread leans towards the idea that mafia need to work in groups to kill people, meaning there probably isn't one kill per mafia. If anything though, that just supports the choice of no lynch first round (as less people would die in the night...). This relates to your question because you asked why I thought there might be one less kill if one mafia died.

Seeing as your fond of asking questions I'll ask one. What makes you think I'm a spy, by the way? :beam:

No I don't have a spy role pm, did I say I did?

I said you were paranoid because I get the impression your deducing that I'm a spy because I got one statistic wrong from the OP, though your probably just being playful. :whip:

Interesting was another way of saying I don't understand why you are doing some of the things you are doing, such as the line above and jumping on my tail straight after GH, like literally 2 minutes after, why would you not initiate the vote on me, why wait for one vote against me? Its like you really want me dead. :sweatdrop:

If you are an investigator, make sure you consider me. :grin:

[Askthepizzaguy]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reiterate
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alliteration

Not to be picky, but to be helpful.

[TinCow]

A person who isn't paranoid in a mafia game is a person who's about to lose a mafia game.

[Thermal]

A person who isn't paranoid in a mafia game is a person who's about to lose a mafia game.

I wasn't saying it was a bad thing, I was explaining why I thought he was...

@ATPG
I understand I spelt reiterate as re-alliterate ATPG, but how does alliteration come into this?

[Centurion1]

I wasn't saying it was a bad thing, I was explaining why I thought he was

@ATPG
I understand I spelt reiterate as re-alliterate ATPG, but how does alliteration come into this?

A Awesome Amazing Astounding Account I Assume

[Thermal]

A Awesome Amazing Astounding Account I Assume

http://wordcentral.com/cgi-bin/student?book=Student&va=an

Hehe :tongue:

[Centurion1]

dont be that guy.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I wasn't saying it was a bad thing, I was explaining why I thought he was...

@ATPG
I understand I spelt reiterate as re-alliterate ATPG, but how does alliteration come into this?

To be plain, it doesn't.

al·lit·er·ate (-lt-rt)
v. al·lit·er·at·ed, al·lit·er·at·ing, al·lit·er·ates
v.intr.
1. To use alliteration in speech or writing.
2. To have or contain alliteration.

The point was, there's no meaning for "re-alliterate" which means anything remotely similar to what you used it as, which should have been "reiterate", a completely different word. Alliteration does not mean iteration.

[Thermal]

To be plain, it doesn't.

al·lit·er·ate (-lt-rt)
v. al·lit·er·at·ed, al·lit·er·at·ing, al·lit·er·ates
v.intr.
1. To use alliteration in speech or writing.
2. To have or contain alliteration.

The point was, there's no meaning for "re-alliterate" which means anything remotely similar to what you used it as, which should have been "reiterate", a completely different word. Alliteration does not mean iteration.

I see, thanks.

:speechless:

@ Centurion, I was only messing about.

[Centurion1]

@ Centurion, I was only messing about.

:wink:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I was initially assuming one mafia could produce one kill individually, but the Starting thread leans towards the idea that mafia need to work in groups to kill people, meaning there probably isn't one kill per mafia. If anything though, that just supports the choice of no lynch first round (as less people would die in the night...). This relates to your question because you asked why I thought there might be one less kill if one mafia died.

Seeing as your fond of asking questions I'll ask one. What makes you think I'm a spy, by the way?

No I don't have a spy role pm, did I say I did?

It's the initial assumption that is odd to me. As you say, it is not in the OP. So where did it come from? I posit that it came from your spy role pm. This would explain why you assumed it.

[Thermal]

It's the initial assumption that is odd to me. As you say, it is not in the OP. So where did it come from? I posit that it came from your spy role pm. This would explain why you assumed it.

I was using one kill per mafia as a default, many games have that policy, so I applied it to this for arguments sake, when talking to Subotan about the odds of killing mafia or townie in day 1 etc.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I was using one kill per mafia as a default, many games have that policy, so I applied it to this for arguments sake, when talking to Subotan about the odds of killing mafia or townie in day 1 etc.

The godfather series is the only one I know where killing a mafioso drops their kills. It's part of the special mechanic.

[slashandburn]

Haven't seen you for a while salt & barnacles, thought you'd left us.

Nope merely took a break to handle real life issues.

[Thermal]

The godfather series is the only one I know where killing a mafioso drops their kills. It's part of the special mechanic.

If that is the case, how come the kill rate in many games (at least ones I play) decreases towards the end? I always thought the amount of mafia deduced there amount of kills, a lot of games probably don't, but ones I'm familiar with do, I think.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

To be plain, it doesn't.

al·lit·er·ate (-lt-rt)
v. al·lit·er·at·ed, al·lit·er·at·ing, al·lit·er·ates
v.intr.
1. To use alliteration in speech or writing.
2. To have or contain alliteration.

The point was, there's no meaning for "re-alliterate" which means anything remotely similar to what you used it as, which should have been "reiterate", a completely different word. Alliteration does not mean iteration.

Huh.. Am I back in school and learning English? :inquisitive:

[Thermal]

Huh.. Am I back in school and learning English? :inquisitive:

I'm still in school and learning English :brood:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm just trying to be helpful. People take your posts more seriously when they don't have distracting errors in them. I don't comment when someone messes up there, their, they're, but when their stumbling over they're words critical to there point, it helps to type them correctly.


...Waits patiently.

[slashandburn]

*tries to wait patiently but gives up and goes and plays left 4 dead.*

[Chaotix]

I'm just trying to be helpful. People take your posts more seriously when they don't have distracting errors in them. I don't comment when someone messes up there, their, they're, but when their stumbling over they're words critical to there point, it helps to type them correctly.


...Waits patiently.


:grin:

I c wat u did their...

[Beskar]

Haven't found the plug to the laptop, so only here till the battery life goes. Though what I am finding weird is that some drama occured when I haven't been online. Not be online for a night, and hell breaks lose. :tongue:

[a completely inoffensive name]

Huh.. Am I back in school and learning English? :inquisitive:


I'm still in school and learning English :brood:


I'm just trying to be helpful. People take your posts more seriously when they don't have distracting errors in them. I don't comment when someone messes up there, their, they're, but when their stumbling over they're words critical to there point, it helps to type them correctly.


...Waits patiently.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[Csargo]

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

I did once, but it's best to leave that incident in the past. Not very proud of that moment. :shame:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think that that that that that guy above me used was grammatically incorrect.

[Double A]

Thermal Pizzaguy, why are you typing in Christmas colors?


A Awesome Amazing Astounding Account I Assume

STOP TRYING TO STEAL MY THUNDER!

[Csargo]

At least he's not using this color

[Double A]

I had to invert the colors to even read that... go away.

[seireikhaan]

:whip:

Less spam, please.

[a completely inoffensive name]

:whip:

Less spam, please.

But I'm not full yet.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

When will the night phase end?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Okay, apparently there's a lot of confusion, or at least some confusion, about certain things.

So,
On sending in orders:
You must specify what action you are taking - ie, protecting someone, attacking someone, investigating someone, etc.

You must specify who the target is - you must name the person you will be performing the action on.

You must specify who you are going to perform actions with. If a group of people is performing an action, they need to list all the group members they are performing an action with.

Every member of the group must send in the same orders, targeting the same person with the same action, and listing all the other group members.

Example:

Tonight I (CR) will attack Seamus with Sasaki Kojiro, General Hankerchief, and Tincow.

Sasaki, GH, and Tincow would need to send in similar orders.

Group sizes:
You need four people for a successful traveler group, and three people for a successful soldier group.

EXTENSION:
This round will be extended seven hours.

CR

[Diamondeye]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reiterate
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alliteration

Not to be picky, but to be helpful.

Beaten to it. You just rose another rank in my personal appreciation list. I'm the kind of person who thinks Lynne Truss is an example to pursue (and who've read her sticklerish punctuation guide three times already). Despite not being 20 yet and not having English as my primary language.

The thing you did with "they're" and "their" made me giggle.


At least he's not using this color

Arrhg my brain stop it STOP it.

[Myrddraal]

I'm the kind of person who thinks ... and who've read ...
Just to be picky, you should have written 'who has' rather than 'who have'. :grin:

[Joooray]

Man, this game has turned into an English-Grammar-Slugfest. :no:

[Beskar]

All of your Shadow Fort are belong to us.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Orders closed.

People who didn't send their orders in correctly won't have their orders carried out. I will explain again during the day phase.

CR

[Kagemusha]

Orders closed.

People who didn't send their orders in correctly won't have their orders carried out. I will explain again during the day phase.

CR

Sorry for bothering, but when can we expect the events of first night to be revealed?

[Crazed Rabbit]

The Shadow Fort, day 2:

Another storm dumped snow on the fort. The people trapped inside would have to wait longer before it melted.

Anyone looking out during the night might have seen one of many figures moving through the shadows, some more stealthily than others. In the evening some noticed the delicious aroma of a well prepared dinner, with a hint of garlic.

But none of these figures attacked anyone, and everyone who went to sleep woke up alive.

Gerard was somewhat puzzled about this. Still, he insisted that no-lynch and abstain votes were not allowed in voting today.

The day phase has begun.

24 hours for voting! Or until 7:30 am PST March 13!


Some people's orders didn't go in, because the orders were done wrongly or to late. I won't be here to answer questions, as I am going skiing.

CR

[autolycus]

vote:Subotan because abstaining is a cop-out

[Methos]

I'm going to be offline until Sunday with no internet access. My caving grotto (group) was invited back down to Riverbluff Cave (http://www.riverbluffcave.com/) for some archaeological digging and exploring of the cave system. I should be back late Sunday.

[Subotan]

vote:Subotan because abstaining is a cop-out
That's ironic, seeing as how I was the one arguing for a lynch. However, the no-lynch faction won out, so I voted abstain as I was going to bed, and I couldn't see an obvious target for a lynch that would clearly fail.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Man, this game has turned into an English-Grammar-Slugfest. :no:

Then I am teh winna.


Beaten to it. You just rose another rank in my personal appreciation list. I'm the kind of person who thinks Lynne Truss is an example to pursue (and who've read her sticklerish punctuation guide three times already)

"who've" (who have) is not as correct as "who's" (who has).

Nobody died last night. I shall go with my randomly chosen victim, Methos, once again.

vote: Methos

[Joooray]

Of course you are, Atpg, of course you are.
--
I know that this could be an elaborate plan by the mafia, but with nobody dieing why not vote for somebody that stayed quiet so far. Looking at the 4 people that only have one post (strangely enough all of them well known mafia players), random.org gave me Pyschonaut as a target again.
So I won't question the wisdom of random.org and Vote: Psychonaut.

[Kagemusha]

Im going to Vote: ATGP. Voting a guy who just announced hes going on a trip. That will really spring up some conversation eh?

[White_eyes:D]

So this might not be a ploy and people have stopped lying in mafia games? *Cough*Chicago Sorrie*Cough*
Vote:Kagemusha

[TinCow]

I know that this could be an elaborate plan by the mafia, but with nobody dieing why not vote for somebody that stayed quiet so far. Looking at the 4 people that only have one post (strangely enough all of them well known mafia players), random.org gave me Pyschonaut as a target again.
So I won't question the wisdom of random.org and Vote: Psychonaut.

It's not an elaborate plan. The OP says the mafia can investigate to find recruits. That is certainly what they were doing last night.

I will support your pressure vote for now.

Vote: Psychonaut

Talk. :whip:

[Joooray]

It's not an elaborate plan. The OP says the mafia can investigate to find recruits. That is certainly what they were doing last night.


True, I thought of that too, after I posted. That would mean that the mafia is only able to either investigate, recruit or kill, right?
But let's keep the pressure up.

Do we know already if we will be informed of any recruitment by the mafia?

[atheotes]

Spies; the mafia. They can kill together and also investigate townspeople to find roles and susceptibility to conversion.
I am not sure how much importance we should give the "and".

I think we did not see any kills because the mafia could not co-ordinate their orders...perhaps someone was missing.

Vote: Sigurd - i think he was the only one who did not vote last phase

[Joooray]

I am not sure how much importance we should give the "and".

I think we did not see any kills because the mafia could not co-ordinate their orders...perhaps someone was missing.

Vote: Sigurd - i think he was the only one who did not vote last phase

Looking at the number of post so far there are four persons with only one post, their join-post: Sigurd, Louis VI, Psychonaut and CCRunner.

[atheotes]

i went off the tally, thought Sigurd was the only one who had not voted. Anyways there are a couple of votes on Psychonaut already, so Sigurd is not a bad choice considering the way he played in Netherworld.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Yes. I support a Sigurd lynch. Your lurking ways have come back to bite you, my friend.

Vote:Sigurd

[Centurion1]

vote: sigurd.

whats the tally now?

[Diamondeye]

Im going to Vote: ATGP. Voting a guy who just announced hes going on a trip. That will really spring up some conversation eh?

Who is this ATGP of whom you speak?


Looking at the number of post so far there are four persons with only one post, their join-post: Sigurd, Louis VI, Psychonaut and CCRunner.

In that case I'll put a vote of pressure on vote:CCRunner. Hey CCR :)

[Beskar]

I am not sure how much importance we should give the "and".

I think we did not see any kills because the mafia could not co-ordinate their orders...perhaps someone was missing.

Vote: Sigurd - i think he was the only one who did not vote last phase

Vote: Atheotes

He told me he was scum in a private message and survived a town vig attempt.

[Yaropolk]

Im going to Vote: ATGP. Voting a guy who just announced hes going on a trip. That will really spring up some conversation eh?

Methos posted that he's leaving for the weekend in every game he's playing (Then there were none, Swords & D20's, and here) so I don't think it's an evil ploy. I suggest ATPG should take his vote off Methos....since Sigurd and Psychonaut have a few votes on them I'll vote Louis IV - come out of the woodwork lurkers and speak up!

[Kagemusha]

Who is this ATGP of whom you speak?

Askthepizzaguy

And to Yaropolk. I havent played a game of mafia in a year or so, so i apologise for being bit out of touch of the latest intrigues. Thanks for the information, thus unvote and vote: Atheotes. Please share your thoughts on the accusation of Beskar?

[atheotes]

Beskar is just joking ~:pat:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hmm Kage.

He voted pizza for voting a guy who just went on a trip. As in, pizza is bad for doing that.
white eyes voted him
Diamondeye asked him a question
Yaropolk said that methos really was on a trip

So why did Kage unvote pizza saying "thanks for the information, thus unvote" to Yaropolk? His initial vote assumed that Methos was on a trip.

[Winston Hughes]

In that case I'll put a vote of pressure on vote:CCRunner. Hey CCR :)

Pressure? Nah, let's just lynch him and be done with it. :devilish:

vote: CCRunner

[Csargo]

Methos posted that he's leaving for the weekend in every game he's playing (Then there were none, Swords & D20's, and here) so I don't think it's an evil ploy. I suggest ATPG should take his vote off Methos....since Sigurd and Psychonaut have a few votes on them I'll vote Louis IV - come out of the woodwork lurkers and speak up!

That might be useful if he were even playing. :tongue:

[atheotes]

That might be useful if he were even playing. :tongue:

CCRunner is a reserve player and he is not playing (yet) :laugh4:

Looks like everyone went off Jooray's post

[Csargo]

CCRunner is a reserve player and he is not playing (yet) :laugh4:

Looks like everyone went off Jooray's post

I was talking about Louis.

[Subotan]

Vote: Atheotes

He told me he was scum in a private message and survived a town vig attempt.
Is that so? Why would he tell you he was scum?

[Winston Hughes]

CCRunner is a reserve player and he is not playing (yet)

That's what he wants us to think...

vote: atheotes for helping CCRunner maintain the illusion of not actually being a player in this game.

[Thermal]

vote: psychonaut

Both Sigurd & Psychonaut have been active all over the forum (not sure about Louis & CCRunner) Putting them both on level pegging seems like a plan to me, to make both feel the need to appear. Psychonaut also lurks when hes mafia (or at least I've seen him do this once) so they aren't so different from each other.

Also Interesting that there were no kills, so much for mafia getting to murder us at night :juggle2: .

[Sasaki Kojiro]

That's what he wants us to think...

vote: atheotes for helping CCRunner maintain the illusion of not actually being a player in this game.

fos:winston

CCRunner isn't playing, and there is a bit of a wagon on atheotes. So winston is joke voting but actually joining a serious wagon.

[Beskar]

Beskar is just joking ~:pat:

You mean to deny that this PM does not exist?





:laugh4: "atheotes is always the mafia", want to build a case against me?

Sorry, too busy murdering you tonight.

you dont want to keep me alive to vote against? i am disappointed. :no:

Scummy.

if you say it doesn't, then you are lying, mafeotes

[Subotan]

And what makes "Sorry, too busy murdering you tonight." any less scummy than "you dont want to keep me alive to vote against? i am disappointed."?

[Yaropolk]

That might be useful if (Louis IV) were even playing. :tongue:

I was going off Jooray's post. I'll unvote Louis


Hmm Kage.

He voted pizza for voting a guy who just went on a trip. As in, pizza is bad for doing that.
white eyes voted him
Diamondeye asked him a question
Yaropolk said that methos really was on a trip

So why did Kage unvote pizza saying "thanks for the information, thus unvote" to Yaropolk? His initial vote assumed that Methos was on a trip.

Vote: Kagemusha - my argument was with kagemusha, not against him, but he seemed to used that opportunity to jump his vote on the Atheotes bandwagon

[a completely inoffensive name]

Son, i am disappoint.

[Myrddraal]

So why did Kage unvote pizza saying "thanks for the information, thus unvote" to Yaropolk? His initial vote assumed that Methos was on a trip.

Yaropolk was suggesting that claiming to be away doesn't mean that you are away, and putting a bit of pressure on those who are claiming to go away isn't a bad thing.

[Beskar]

And what makes "Sorry, too busy murdering you tonight." any less scummy than "you dont want to keep me alive to vote against? i am disappointed."?

Because he called himself mafia. He probably told me as no one will believe it if I said. You are playing into atheotes' game. :no:

[Subotan]

Where does he say that? Sorry if I'm being incredibly obtuse, but it looks like you are acting more dangerous than him.

[johnhughthom]

Subo, ignore Beskar anytime he is accusing atheotes.





Actually simply ignore Beskar.

[Beskar]

Where does he say that? Sorry if I'm being incredibly obtuse, but it looks like you are acting more dangerous than him.

In the first quote. :rolleyes: Why would if I was a mafia, post this? I would just lurk opposed to draw attention.

Also, fos: johnhughthom for defending his scum partner.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Because he called himself mafia. He probably told me as no one will believe it if I said. You are playing into atheotes' game. :no:

But "atheotes is always mafia" is one of the mafia rules.


Yaropolk was suggesting that claiming to be away doesn't mean that you are away, and putting a bit of pressure on those who are claiming to go away isn't a bad thing.

Methos posted that he's leaving for the weekend in every game he's playing (Then there were none, Swords & D20's, and here) so I don't think it's an evil ploy.

Hmm? :inquisitive:

And even if Yaro was suggesting that putting pressure on them was a good thing, why did Kage unvote?

[Kagemusha]

I was going off Jooray's post. I'll unvote Louis



Vote: Kagemusha - my argument was with kagemusha, not against him, but he seemed to used that opportunity to jump his vote on the Atheotes bandwagon

Sure, what i did was that i misunderstood your post as if Miotas would have been using "absence" as tactics, thus making ATGP´s vote to him valid. My mistake. But i didnt jump any bandwagons. How am i supposed to now when Atheotes and Beskar are jokingly accusing each other or if the accusation is for real, if the original accuser doesnt give anything solid to back his claims.:dizzy2:

[Beskar]

But "atheotes is always mafia" is one of the mafia rules.

Indeed, I made it.

But why would atheotes say "atheotes is always the mafia" out of the blue to me. Then requesting I build a case against him?

It is part of his plot, to make him not look like the mafia when he actually is, and johnhughthom, etc are his scumbuddies trying to make it that atheotes is not indeed the mafia.

Mafiatheotes conspiracy.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sure, what i did was that i misunderstood your post as if Miotas would have been using "absence" as tactics, thus making ATGP´s vote to him valid.


Then why the heck did you unvote?

Neither the unvote nor your explanation makes sense = ++chance of mafia covering his tracks

unvote, vote:Kagemusha


But why would atheotes say "atheotes is always the mafia" out of the blue to me. Then requesting I build a case against him?

It is part of his plot, to make him not look like the mafia when he actually is,

He certainly didn't "confess to being mafia" as you suggested. It doesn't seem like a mafia ploy to me either.

[Beskar]

He certainly didn't "confess to being mafia" as you suggested. It doesn't seem like a mafia ploy to me either.

So if Csargo actually got a pm from you when you was mafia, saying you was mafia, no one would believe it, thus no one would think you was a mafia. Thus the mafia ploy is obvious.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So if Csargo actually got a pm from you when you was mafia, saying you was mafia, no one would believe it, thus no one would think you was a mafia. Thus the mafia ploy is obvious.

What's the ploy? Convince one person you are guilty?

[Kagemusha]

Then why the heck did you unvote?

Neither the unvote nor your explanation makes sense = ++chance of mafia covering his tracks

unvote, vote:Kagemusha





He certainly didn't "confess to being mafia" as you suggested. It doesn't seem like a mafia ploy to me either.

What ever. I am terrible sorry if im not at my brightest at midnight after a work week. Go ahead and lynch me for not understanding right what Yaropolk said. Good night.

[TheFlax]

He certainly didn't "confess to being mafia" as you suggested. It doesn't seem like a mafia ploy to me either.

It seems more like usual Beskar wonkiness. :clown:

[Beskar]

What's the ploy? Convince one person you are guilty?

No, you get that person to reveal it, then you attempt to discredit that person, thus makes you look innocent. Pretty obvious.

Also see? It is working. You , flax, jht, etc are falling for atheotes' trap. That is how successful it is.

[atheotes]

CCRunner is a reserve player and he is not playing (yet) :laugh4:

Looks like everyone went off Jooray's post


I was talking about Louis.

the first post was meant to add on to your post about Louis... not refute it. unintentional confusion :bow:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

What ever. I am terrible sorry if im not at my brightest at midnight after a work week. Go ahead and lynch me for not understanding right what Yaropolk said. Good night.

OK.

[Winston Hughes]

CCRunner isn't playing, and there is a bit of a wagon on atheotes. So winston is joke voting but actually joining a serious wagon.

The explanation may be flippant, but the vote is quite serious.

[atheotes]

You mean to deny that this PM does not exist?




:laugh4: "atheotes is always the mafia", want to build a case against me?

Sorry, too busy murdering you tonight.

you dont want to keep me alive to vote against? i am disappointed. :no:

Scummy.



if you say it doesn't, then you are lying, mafeotes

sneaky!
I am not denying the existence of that PM. But i did not write everything that is quoted against me. :tongue3:
what i dont understand is what you are trying to achieve. I asked if you were willing to join a protection group (you were not the only one to receive it), you responded you were too busy murdering me and replace my qn with your words. I thought you were being yourself. Apparently not. :inquisitive:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The explanation may be flippant, but the vote is quite serious.

So you seriously believe in the atheotes confession = mafia theory? Or something else.

[Beskar]

I am not denying the existence of that PM.

See? It is true.

[TinCow]

See? It is true.

Is atheotes telling the truth that he contacted you to organize a protection group?

[Subotan]

I can vouch for Atheote's attempts to build a protection group. Beskar's continued insistence that Atheotes is mafia for the wrong reasons is troubling.

Vote:Beskar

[johnhughthom]

Is atheotes telling the truth that he contacted you to organize a protection group?

He contacted me for that reason.

[Winston Hughes]

So you seriously believe in the atheotes confession = mafia theory? Or something else.

I don't seriously believe it, but it's not something else either.

[Beskar]

Because when I pm sweet nothings into Pizza's inbox, I also send it to Sasaki. :rolleyes:

[Joooray]

Sorry guys, I promise I'll check the list of the people actually playing next time around. :laugh3:

That just leaves Pycho and Sigurd then. My vote stays on Pyscho for now.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sorry guys, I promise I'll check the list of the people actually playing next time around. :laugh3:

That just leaves Pycho and Sigurd then. My vote stays on Pyscho for now.

Why are you only interested in lurkers?

[White_eyes:D]

Why are you only interested in lurkers?
Only two reasons....
1.He is scum looking for a scapegoat:smoking:
2.He is a townie who doesn't want to go though the great walls of text:dizzy:

But I am sure it all ran though your mind in a couple of seconds:laugh4:

[Scienter]

Vote: Atheotes

He told me he was scum in a private message and survived a town vig attempt.

Why would he do this? :inquisitive:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Im going to Vote: ATGP. Voting a guy who just announced hes going on a trip. That will really spring up some conversation eh?

Sorry, I got bitten really hard on the buttocks the last several times people pulled that kind of carp.

I am not buying it anymore. Don't give excuses. Don't even mention you're leaving. It's like a nervous habit of half the lurker mafia I've ever seen.

That said, Sigurd lurking means he duly deserves death. I'm good with either. Or Kagemusha, for defending the excuse-giver and attacking me, of all people. HERETIC!!!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

In the last mafia game I played GH was quite active but in this one he have only few posts.
Perhaps you could come here and help the town/castle/fort? Unless you are mafia of course..
Also, and this is my personal view on things, I doubt that neither Thermal or Sasaki are guilty.
However, I would also like to put pressure on Sigurd and Psychonaut who, as I have heard, are experienced mafia players and lurking doesn't quite fit for them.
So, I Vote: Psychonaut.

[Diamondeye]

In the first quote. :rolleyes: Why would if I was a mafia, post this? I would just lurk opposed to draw attention.

Also, fos: johnhughthom for defending his scum partner.

:beam: Good ol' Beskar. Throwing WIFOM and FoS'es from day 2? Heh...


What ever. I am terrible sorry if im not at my brightest at midnight after a work week. Go ahead and lynch me for not understanding right what Yaropolk said. Good night.

Getting nerveous? unvote: CCRunner, vote: Kagemusha for pressure.


I can vouch for Atheote's attempts to build a protection group. Beskar's continued insistence that Atheotes is mafia for the wrong reasons is troubling.

He contacted me for that reason.

He also PM'ed me about this, so I'd say he's not lying about that. Then again, Atheotes is always the mafia... Hmm...

[Reenk Roink]

Voting for lurkers is a terrible idea. A lot of them are more likely disinterested or busy players and the disinterest is probably caused by the fact they got shafted and were townies. :shame: A lot of them will probably be WoG'd anyway, and you can always just have the others investigated as investigations on lurkers are more prudent in general than investigations on active players as with active players you can engage in many types of analysis (some good, most not so good but still something).

Voting for abstainers is worse. Especially in a game that will punish repeat abstainers... :rolleyes:

Vote: autolycus (noble retaliation + slanderer of abstention)

I still have misgivings about the motives of Methos and am absolutely convinced his simplsitic reasoning on cliches should be barred

FoS:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

At the moment you even can't vote abstain. Not today.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sorry, I got bitten really hard on the buttocks the last several times people pulled that kind of carp.

I am not buying it anymore. Don't give excuses. Don't even mention you're leaving. It's like a nervous habit of half the lurker mafia I've ever seen.

He was telling the truth in dethy mini, and even posted pictures.

[seireikhaan]

Voting for lurkers is a terrible idea. A lot of them are more likely disinterested or busy players and the disinterest is probably caused by the fact they got shafted and were townies. :shame: A lot of them will probably be WoG'd anyway, and you can always just have the others investigated as investigations on lurkers are more prudent in general than investigations on active players as with active players you can engage in many types of analysis (some good, most not so good but still something).

Voting for abstainers is worse. Especially in a game that will punish repeat abstainers... :rolleyes:

Vote: autolycus (noble retaliation + slanderer of abstention)

I still have misgivings about the motives of Methos and am absolutely convinced his simplsitic reasoning on cliches should be barred

FoS:
So gallant! I would follow this man to the end of the universe, I would!

Vote: autolycus

[Chaotix]

I'm gonna side with Beskar on this one. With his luck, atheotes probably is mafia, whether his joke claim was intended to cause mischief or not.

Vote: atheotes.

[Askthepizzaguy]

He was telling the truth in dethy mini, and even posted pictures.

That also has no impact on whether he's guilty or not. Ultimately, randomness is my god, and I will follow that god until death comes to either myself or the infidel. Fortune has frowned upon Methos, and it is upon Methos I wage the holy war.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Kagemusha.

I voted for him last phase as he seemed suspicious to me, I have seen nothing to change my mind.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm gonna side with Beskar on this one. With his luck, atheotes probably is mafia, whether his joke claim was intended to cause mischief or not.

Vote: atheotes.

fos:chaotix

bandwagoner

[Ibn-Khaldun]

What is the current correct tally? Anyone?
If I counted the votes right then Kage have 5 and Psycho 4.

[johnhughthom]

Tally:

Kagemusha: 5 (W.Eyes, Yaro, Sasaki, Diamondeye, jht)
Mafiotes: 4 (Naughty Beskie, Winston Rules, Kage, Chaotix)
Mr Arsenal: 4 (Jooooooooooray, TC, TM, I-K)
Sigurd: 2 (atheotes, Cent)
Autolycus: 2 (RR, Khaan)
atheotes evil stalker: 1 (Subo)
Subo: 1 (Auto)
Methos: 1 (Atpg)

[Secura]

Because he called himself mafia. He probably told me as no one will believe it if I said. You are playing into atheotes' game. :no:

Or we're playing directly into your game, Beskie! This could be a scum ploy to try and have a townie lynched, and I'm not buying into it I'm afraid. Why would he reveal himself as mafia to you, who would clearly relish the opportunity to set him up for a lynch, when he could just as easily send it to someone else?

Seems a bit foolish, really.


you responded you were too busy murdering me and replace my qn with your words. I thought you were being yourself. Apparently not. :inquisitive:

Exactly. You've got atheotes on the one hand, making a silly claim for whatever reason, and then you've got Beskie replying with threats of a night-kill. In addition, we cannot be certain if that is the full PM conversation as-is, or a heavily doctored one from Beskie.

This whole play seems more than a little suspicious, so I vote: Beskar.


I'm gonna side with Beskar on this one. With his luck, atheotes probably is mafia, whether his joke claim was intended to cause mischief or not.

This is a weak reason for voting, Chaotix; it has a scent of "I'm jumping on a bandwagon but don't have a solid reason to do so". Coupled with the PM that I (and I suppose others may have) recieved from you at the beginning of the night phase, you are starting to look quite suspicious.

FoS: Chaotix

[johnhughthom]

Are people actually taking this Beskar/atheotes thing seriously? I assumed it's a joke that's gone on a bit too long...:shrug:

[Beskar]

Or we're playing directly into your game, Beskie! This could be a scum ploy to try and have a townie lynched, and I'm not buying into it I'm afraid. Why would he reveal himself as mafia to you, who would clearly relish the opportunity to set him up for a lynch, when he could just as easily send it to someone else?

You got me Secura, I mean, as a Mafia, I would expose myself, and get a townie lynched randomly for no reason at all, exposing myself on his death due to him being a townie. You twarted my cunning plan evil plan as a mafia.

[atheotes]

Beskar, are you denying the fact that you replaced my original PM about protection group with your own words?

[Subotan]

You'll have to do better than that if you want to live Beskar. I've got warning lights going off all over the place with you, the dashboard's lighting up.

[Secura]

You got me Secura, I mean, as a Mafia, I would expose myself, and get a townie lynched randomly for no reason at all, exposing myself on his death due to him being a townie. You twarted my cunning plan evil plan as a mafia.

Mmmmhmmm, real funny, treacle. You do see how stupid this looks, right? This 'logic', if I can even call your sarcasm that, would and should extend to atheotes too.

Why would he make these claims to you via PM if it's so freakin' obvious that you'd then pop up in the thread and start voting for him and encouraging others to do so?

I don't know atheotes well, because I haven't been here long and don't recall playing any games alongside him where he's been outspoken or anything... but he doesn't seem completely inept at playing these games that he would reveal himself to you, Mr atheotes-is-always-mafia, to simply be called out in-thread.

I'll concede that his claims are completely bizarre, but are we certain he's scum just from what appears to be simple camaraderie?

Also, please sort the house out so I can come over and give you your birthday card? It's Saturday now, two days late. :<

[Beefy187]

Vote: Beskar

Confusing the town with lies.
We should really appoint someone to organize town efforts like in the Rubicon.

[Winston Hughes]

vote: atheotes for helping CCRunner maintain the illusion of not actually being a player in this game.

Hmm...

Did I need to unvote: CCRunner, despite his not existing?

And does that mean that saying vote: Diamondeye would now leave me voting for DE or atheotes?:inquisitive:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote: Beskar

Confusing the town with lies.
We should really appoint someone to organize town efforts like in the Rubicon.

The "randomness" feature actually demolishes that organized strategy quite nicely.

What is the case on beskar? The mafia motivation.

[Beefy187]

Beskar manipulated pms to make atheotes seem scummy. Beskar also has personal vendetta against atheotes and his voting him every game.
Also certain Intel tells me, he was organizing vig group last night.

Finally, to keep atheotes alive, as his part of my protection group.

[Secura]

What is the case on beskar? The mafia motivation.

I concede that there isn't a notably strong case against Beskie, but is there really one against atheotes either? I don't think so.

Why the need to doctor the PMs other than to make atheotes appear to be scummy?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Beskar manipulated pms to make atheotes seem scummy. Beskar also has personal vendetta against atheotes and his voting him every game.
Also certain Intel tells me, he was organizing vig group last night.

Finally, to keep atheotes alive, as his part of my protection group.

He has a personal vendetta against him, including in games where he's townie?

It doesn't work well to just defend people from your group. At least you stated that as a reason. Otherwise it looks like you are defending him because he's your scumpartner.


I concede that there isn't a notably strong case against Beskie, but is there really one against atheotes either? I don't think so.

Why the need to doctor the PMs other than to make atheotes appear to be scummy?

They could both be town then. Why the need? That's the part where we figure out why mafia would do it. Not knowing isn't a reason.

[Thermal]

Beskar, you seem to be transfixed on Atheotes every game and don't hold what you say in high regard, considering how outrageous you sound. Your also very biased, Post 358# for instance picks out one part of Atheotes' speech making it look scummy, when really he explained fully that you altered the PM (that may not be the case, but you certainly weren't responding in any sort of co-operative way). You still haven't fully confirmed that Atheotes' claim is fake, which adds more suspicion your way.

However, because (as far as you two are concerned) you always dispute over things, I don't see it as being unusual or scummy behavior, though Beskar is using anti-town behavior at the moment unless hes telling the truth, but what he says doesn't add up anyway.


@ Reenk Roink


'Voting for lurkers is a terrible idea. A lot of them are more likely disinterested or busy players and the disinterest is probably caused by the fact they got shafted and were townies.'

We are talking about seasoned players that have often won by lurking here, not just some first time player who has been inactive for 6 days. :beam: I wouldn't expect Psychonaut or Sigurd (baring in mind he moderates the gameroom...) to be disinterested with this game, I don't know why they are lurking this thread as they are constantly active elsewhere, genuinely puzzled.

[naut]

Tally:

Kagemusha: 5 (W.Eyes, Yaro, Sasaki, Diamondeye, jht)
Mafiotes: 4 (Naughty Beskie, Winston Rules, Kage, Chaotix)
Mr Arsenal: 4 (Jooooooooooray, TC, TM, I-K)
Sigurd: 2 (atheotes, Cent)
Autolycus: 2 (RR, Khaan)
atheotes evil stalker: 1 (Subo)
Subo: 1 (Auto)
Methos: 1 (Atpg)
:laugh4:


Sigurd and Psychonaut who, as I have heard, are experienced mafia players and lurking doesn't quite fit for them.
Oh, hi. Adding absolutely nothing that hasn't already been said, yet trying to act agreeable. FoS


Both Sigurd & Psychonaut have been active all over the forum (not sure about Louis & CCRunner) Putting them both on level pegging seems like a plan to me, to make both feel the need to appear. Psychonaut also lurks when hes mafia the game starts because for some reason games always start at inconvenient times for me, like in the middle of intense project work or exams or intense party-weeks, seriously what is with this uncanny overlap! For once can a game start when I have a clear schedule so they aren't so different from each other.
Fixed.


It's not an elaborate plan. The OP says the mafia can investigate to find recruits. That is certainly what they were doing last night.
Almost certainly. I'd be wary of any potential detectives then, for obvious reasons.


So I won't question the wisdom of random.org
Best reason to base a vote.

My gut is saying Sigurd for some reason, but that is probably because I've read his name so often over the last couple of pages. :wink2:

I understand the votes on Kage, he's an excellent player, but I'm not so sure.

Vote: Ibn-Khaldun

[Secura]

unvote: Beskar
FoS: Beskar

On the basis that this behaviour is apparantly typical of both atheotes and Beskie; there's not enough reason to lynch either of them really, but there's still the small matter of editing those PMs to paint atheotes as suspicious.

[Yaropolk]

Tally:

Kagemusha: 5 (W.Eyes, Yaro, Sasaki, Diamondeye, jht)
Mafiotes: 4 (Naughty Beskie, Winston Rules, Kage, Chaotix)
Mr Arsenal: 4 (Jooooooooooray, TC, TM, I-K)
Sigurd: 2 (atheotes, Cent)
Autolycus: 2 (RR, Khaan)
atheotes evil stalker: 1 (Subo)
Subo: 1 (Auto)
Methos: 1 (Atpg)

Who's Mr Arsenal?

[Thermal]

That may be the case, Psychonaut, but I was basing my logic from when I selected you as mafia in a game I hosted and you were fairly lurkish on that :wink: . Although half of that was down to your location, Australia is a tricky one I guess.

[Secura]

Who's Mr Arsenal?

It's Psychonaut... he loves them Gooners! :P

[johnhughthom]

Who's Mr Arsenal?

Psychonaut.

edit: gah, beaten by a glory hunter.





:clown:

[Secura]

gah, beaten by a glory hunter

And the Reds go marching on, on, on! :P

[Beefy187]

My gut is saying Sigurd for some reason, but that is probably because I've read his name so often over the last couple of pages. :wink2:

I understand the votes on Kage, he's an excellent player, but I'm not so sure.

Vote: Ibn-Khaldun

So why aren't you voting for Sigurd?
Why are you voting for Ibn Khaldun?
That votes make no sense.

And I'm a bitter bitter Liverpool fan.

unvote, vote: Psychonaut

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So why aren't you voting for Sigurd?
Why are you voting for Ibn Khaldun?
That votes make no sense.

And I'm a bitter bitter Liverpool fan.

unvote, vote: Psychonaut

Hmm, interesting. This post tied psychonaut for the lead for future reference.

[Centurion1]

unvote ; vote: thermal mercury

i hate that dam ink.

[Secura]

And I'm a bitter bitter Liverpool fan.

Awwww... poor Beefy-chan.

Please direct yourself to this thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?68386-LEN-Teh-Footy-God-s-Footballodium/page126), whereby the rest of us will be able to giggle at your team's shortcomings this season. :P

[Secura]

unvote ; vote: thermal mercury

i hate that dam ink.

What's the real reason for this vote, Cent?

[naut]

So why aren't you voting for Sigurd?
Why are you voting for Ibn Khaldun?
That votes make no sense.
Hah. Actually if you look at the post, I FoS Ibn Khaldun for:


Oh, hi. Adding absolutely nothing that hasn't already been said, yet trying to act agreeable.
He's going for the easy target. His tone is just, well, too premeditated.

[Centurion1]

What's the real reason for this vote, Cent?

Well my dear i could go into a long ramble about why but ill narrow it down.

A. I really do find that ink annoying when im not wearing my contacts (yes astigmatism my one genetic flaw)
B. Im lazy and skim read
C. Im sometimes a lurker in large games and sympathize with them
D. I can see no real reason to lynch any of these lads. Once you give me evidence.......


Reason: FoS was a bit harsh.

not really i honestly place no empathis on those. usually i mentally FOS beskie every game because hes so naturally scummy when he plays :wink:

[Seon]

Wow. 3 pages while I wasn't looking. People here are lot more active than the people back in CFC... (well more so than the people in NotW anyways. ) Lots of materials to read up on...sigh

[Seon]

Alrighty. Materials have been read up on, and Beskar's arguements have convinced me. Therefore I shall lead the charge against one I think most suspiscious....

Edit: Hmm... spoiler tags inside spoiler tags does not work in this Forum? Bah, what the heck.

Vote: Beskar

Double Edit: Spoilers does not work at all in this forum! :@
Yes they do - Sigurd

[Crazed Rabbit]

Hey everyone!

Given the difficulties of planning night actions across timezones, I'm thinking I will increase the night phase to 36 hours. This may not be necessary, since people will get more experience organizing at night.

Important:
On replying to orders sent to me and CC'd to you; if you hit reply, be sure to type in my name on the 'send to' list. Otherwise, if you just reply to it, the PM will only go to your teammate/co-conspirator/etc. who sent the original PM, and not to me!

Remember everyone, just because someone posts in the thread doesn't mean they're playing! ~;p

Finally, sorry for the rather brief replies to night orders and write up. I was rather rushed this morning to get skiing.

Edit: Seon, use [SPOIL], not [SPOILER] for hiding stuff.

CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Alrighty. Materials have been read up on, and Beskar's arguements have convinced me. Therefore I shall lead the charge against one I think most suspiscious....

Edit: Hmm... spoiler tags inside spoiler tags does not work in this Forum? Bah, what the heck.

Vote: Beskar

Double Edit: Spoilers does not work at all in this forum! :@


Beskar's arguments have convinced you, therefore you are voting beskar :/

[Myrddraal]

Umm. I've read the last few pages, but I feel none the wiser.


Oh, hi. Adding absolutely nothing that hasn't already been said, yet trying to act agreeable. FoS

This seems like a reasonable thought, therefore:
Vote: Ibn Khaldun

PS, @ Seon votes in edited posts usually don't count.

[Renata]

I'm too tired for the Beskar/atheotes argument. I think I'm with Sasaki: what's the mafia motivation for Beskar faking PMs? But bandwagoning Atheotes on such a weird "accusation" is arguably even less sensible, and Chaotix looked like he was just piling on.

vote: Chaotix

[Seon]

Beskar's arguments have convinced you, therefore you are voting beskar :/

Yup. His arguements convinced me that he's just messing with my head(s)

[naut]

Seon. The spoiler tags are [SPOIL] here. ~;p

[Seon]

Ah well.

Vote: Beskar

Well, my point is that a townie trying to mess with other townie's head and interfere with the town's goal of trying to eliminate all mafiosoes are better off silenced. Mostly because they mess with my head and I just took a shower.

Of course, better lynch target is always appreciated.

[TinCow]

Many thanks for speaking, Psychonaut. :bow:

Unvote; Vote: Sigurd

Next... :whip:

[Scienter]

I don't know everyone's playing histories well enough to vote based on that. Apparently, Sasaki and atheotes are always scum? How am I supposed to know. The thing that looked weirdest to me so far is the Beskar/atheotes PM thing. Vote:Beskar

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I agree with Science-dude above. A loud public "feud" is a good distraction for doing other things -- always a few votes on you, always active, never analyzing other potential mafiosi.

Vote: Beskar


Note: overnight trip without kids coming up, will not be on until later Sun/early Mon Eastern.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Beskar wagon is not a great one imo.

Kage and chaotix are better choices. Maybe beefy.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Beskie and Athe thing is just stupid and from what I hear, a running gag. Those harping on it I'm pointing the FoS at because I think they are trying to spin this up to distract the town.
Vote: TinCow
Why TinCow you ask? Well I just driving my car the other day and I saw a metal cow made of tin as a decoration on someone's front lawn. When I parked my car and went over to touch it the **** thing was over 9000 degrees and burned my hand. Thanks a lot TinCow. Friggen mafia.

[Csargo]

Vote:atheotes

[GeneralHankerchief]

I heard there was a bandwagon on Beskar. I lodge this vote knowing full well that he will be whining to me on Steam for days about this.

Vote: Beskar

[Sigurd]

Many thanks for speaking, Psychonaut. :bow:

Unvote; Vote: Sigurd

Next... :whip:

And here I was planning to take it easy until something more interesting came up.
There has been no murders yet. No-one is acting too suspicious, all though Thermal's red text is odd. What is he trying to tell us about that?

Going by the info from CR, we are dealing with a bunch of armatures... :beam: well unless it is a smoke of deceit.

The current candidates are picked from gut-feelings, how the tea grit looks like at the bottom of a cup, how a owl hoots two times and not three times on an odd number day.
This superstitious drivel needs to stop. Let's not work ourselves up over witchcraft and soothsaying.
The next thing would be someone claiming they saw me with horns...

I'll rather not join the bandwagons and vote: Blackadder
Now leave me be and let me sit here quietly drinking my watered out ale. *grumble* snow will be the end of us *grumble*

[Sigurd]

I just edited my vote post...
vote: Captain Blackadder

[Beskar]

I will give you a tip, people who voted for me were Mafia. Because it is pretty obvious I am not a mafia, thus, they are mafia trying to go for an easy lynch.



Well, my point is that a townie trying to mess with other townie's head and interfere with the town's goal of trying to eliminate all mafiosoes are better off silenced. Mostly because they mess with my head and I just took a shower.

Better lynch you then for not voting against a mafia and willingly voting against a townie.

Also, let me get this straight, no one can vote for atheotes, even though he openly admitted to being mafia wiith me, because apparently it is part of some imaginary "feud" ? You guys are so presumptuous. The first rule of mafia is never to presume.

So instead of getting rid of a mafia, who you are argubly unsure about, you are going to lynch a known townie instead? With deductive reasoning like that, even Pirot cannot hold a candle to you.

I am going to drop the atheotes thing, I am just going to sit back and laugh at you all when he wins the game, and you start whining and crying about how you never worked it out it was atheotes, while I said it was him, here and now.


[Also, GeneralSpanky, no I won't.]

[Beskar]

-delete me plz-

[Beskar]

-clone post-

[Subotan]

I will give you a tip, people who voted for me were Mafia. Because it is pretty obvious I am not a mafia, thus, they are mafia trying to go for an easy lynch.
Or, because you were making such ridiculous claims that you were looking like the scummiest guy here. It is oh so very easy to dismiss the allegations you made against Atheotes by saying "Oh it was all a ploy, I'm a townie really", but from our point of view you tried to confuse and disorientate us. Regardless of which of your claims is the truth, you lied consistently at one point for no obvious reason, so my vote stays.

[Beskar]

Or, because you were making such ridiculous claims that you were looking like the scummiest guy here. It is oh so very easy to dismiss the allegations you made against Atheotes by saying "Oh it was all a ploy, I'm a townie really", but from our point of view you tried to confuse and disorientate us. Regardless of which of your claims is the truth, you lied consistently at one point for no obvious reason, so my vote stays.

I never lied, and it looking "scummy" is stupid, like Sasaki says. On another note, I think Sasaki is very good player at reasoning, and he knows better than to vote for me. On the otherhand, you are not Sasaki. :no: especially with your claims that apparently I am a mafia that lights up your dashboard is so far removed from reality, I doubt I would ever trust any mafia opinion you give. :laugh4:

[Subotan]

I never lied (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh163n1lJ4M)
Rubbish. You may not have said anything that was a total fantasy, but it had both the same effects of lying, in that it both confused the town and almost got someone else lynched. You misrepresented your conversation with Atheotes deliberately. That counts as lying.

You have shown me nothing to indicate that you are not mafia other than "Trust me, this how I roll". Yes, the lurkers are good targets, but I'm willing to wait one more phase before lynching lurkers. You, on the other hand, have confused the town, and drawn discussion away from which lurker to lynch into a totally fruitless mafia baiting exercise. Although later on in the game that might be excusable, as there would be better targets and more evidence, at this stage in the game it's gonna get you lynched.

EDIT:Anyway, I won't be able to answer any more rebuttals, as I'm going to a concert right now (To play my Tuba). So don't think that I'm ignoring you if I don't answer.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Vote: Kagemusha



I have a good feeling about sasaki this game :yes: Think I will go with him


...... Maybe that means I should be deathly afraid of him.

[Myrddraal]

Kage and chaotix are better choices. Maybe beefy.

Why Chaotix?

[TinCow]

Now leave me be and let me sit here quietly drinking my watered out ale. *grumble* snow will be the end of us *grumble*

After Netherworld II, you owe me a bit of conversation for a game or two. :deal2:

Unvote; Vote: ACIN

I was just standing around in my front yard minding my own business, and he came up and started groping me. That's not cool at all...

[Captain Blackadder]

vote beefy

.Sorry slightly out of it right now will be back next round for more analysis

[atheotes]

Beskar, are you denying the fact that you replaced my original PM about protection group with your own words?


any reason why you have not answered this qn. Beskar?

[Diamondeye]

Why Chaotix?

Bandwagoning on poor reasoning, I think.

I am most disappointed with the Beskar bandwagon - if he's mafia, he's gotten himself enough attention to be scanned/suspected. But odds say he's town, from the way I read it at least.

Chaotix on the other hand seems scummy. So does Seon, Kage and CDf, imho, but I'm not FoSing yet.

I'm keeping my vote on Kage because (from what I can tell) he's the lead candidate against Beskar, whom I believe to be innocent.

[Beskar]

any reason why you have not answered this qn. Beskar?

Because I didn't.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I agree that there is probably mafia on the Beskar wagon.



The current candidates are picked from gut-feelings, how the tea grit looks like at the bottom of a cup, how a owl hoots two times and not three times on an odd number day.
This superstitious drivel needs to stop. Let's not work ourselves up over witchcraft and soothsaying.
The next thing would be someone claiming they saw me with horns...

I'll rather not join the bandwagons and vote: Blackadder
Now leave me be and let me sit here quietly drinking my watered out ale. *grumble* snow will be the end of us *grumble*

"Let's not vote based on gut feelings, let's vote randomly" ? :inquisitive:


Why Chaotix?

This post:


I'm gonna side with Beskar on this one. With his luck, atheotes probably is mafia, whether his joke claim was intended to cause mischief or not.

Vote: atheotes.

Very much a mafia style "give a plausible reason + bandwagon vote" post.

[Yaropolk]

Quick tally (should double check for official score):

beskar 6: (subotan, beefy, seon, scienter, seamus, gh)
kage 6 (w_e, yaro, sasaki, diamondeeye, johnhugthomh, cdf)
atheotes 4 (beskar, kage, chaotix, csargo)
psycho 3 (jooray, thermal,ibn k, beskar)

everyone else < 3

[Secura]

vote: Kagemusha

I don't believe Beskar's genuinely guilty, and would prefer not to leave his fate to random.org.

[Beskar]

I got two votes, Yaropolk?

[atheotes]

Because I didn't.

:laugh4: Dont know what else i was expecting from you...what i cant figure is why you did this. I thought Kage had gotten himself in trouble and you did this to help him. I reread and that is not the case. Sigurd and Psychonaut were the only ones to be under any pressure with 3 and 2 votes respectively. Maybe you just wanted to get a lot of attention and that would stop anyone from recruiting you. or Maybe it was just a joke taken too far.

[Yaropolk]

I got two votes, Yaropolk?

You want 3? Who did you vote for I'll edit the tally.

[Joooray]

Considering that Psycho finally spoke there is no sense in still voting him for now, so Unvote: Psychonaut.

I'm bit lost at who to vote for. I support what Diamondeye says though, Beskar has to be investigated, but I don't think he is mafia. Kage on the other hand seems more suspicious.
So, I'll bandwagon on Kage: Vote: Kagemusha.

[Beskar]

:laugh4: Dont know what else i was expecting from you...what i cant figure is why you did this. I thought Kage had gotten himself in trouble and you did this to help him. I reread and that is not the case. Sigurd and Psychonaut were the only ones to be under any pressure with 3 and 2 votes respectively. Maybe you just wanted to get a lot of attention and that would stop anyone from recruiting you. or Maybe it was just a joke taken too far.

I am Beskar, I don't need an excuse or a reason.

Just 'Cause.

[Myrddraal]

Thing is, I don't think either Kage or Beskar are guilty... As far as I can tell, Kage got confused by a series of posts which are still confusing me. That's hardly very scummy. Beskar is wasting everyone's time. He's probably not guilty, but he's not exactly the model townie either.

Bandwagoning at this early stage of the game isn't so bad in itself, since there's little evidence to go by, you need to go for someone... but usually those who do bandwagon innocently either have thought it through completely, or not at all. Chaotix's post does look like an attempt to post a thought through reason, but it's a pretty poor one...

Vote: Chaotix

[Secura]

Beskar is wasting everyone's time. He's probably not guilty, but he's not exactly the model townie either.

You should read between the lines a little.

Think of a reason as to why Beskie would post that if he was a townie. I'm sure Admiral Ackbar would know. :3

[Seon]

I am most disappointed with the Beskar bandwagon - if he's mafia, he's gotten himself enough attention to be scanned/suspected. But odds say he's town, from the way I read it at least.

This is true. Besker is most likely to be innocent. But the reason why (or atleast, I think) we are voting for him is because he is a disruptive element, distracting us from the real goal of killing all spies. While it is probably fine in early game, this kind of disruption cannot happen in the late game, (unless Beskar is telling the grub about atheothes. In that case I am going to lynch myself) which is why I voted to eliminate him. Just to scare him a little against doing that in the future. :Tongue:

By the way what did Kage guy do?

[Beskar]

Seon is trying to lynch me because he wants an easy lynch of a townie because he is scum.

[johnhughthom]

By the way what did Kage guy do?

I voted for him last round based on this post:
Throwing suspicion towards Beefy and then launching a seemingly harmless Sasaki bandwagon. Your action seems t me like a standard mafia behaviour, so Vote: Ibn-Khaldun

and see no reason to vote somebody else this round. Not sure what the bandwagom is actually based on though.


Unvote; Vote: ACIN

I was just standing around in my front yard minding my own business, and he came up and started groping me. That's not cool at all...

Weren't you even a little curious?

[Myrddraal]

@ Secura and Beskar

From what I've heard, it's much much more likely that Beskar was playing with a fun grudge than being the mastermind behind some baiting plan... :shrug:

But I'll grant that it hasn't been a total waste of time :bow:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

This is true. Besker is most likely to be innocent. But the reason why (or atleast, I think) we are voting for him is because he is a disruptive element, distracting us from the real goal of killing all spies. While it is probably fine in early game, this kind of disruption cannot happen in the late game, (unless Beskar is telling the grub about atheothes. In that case I am going to lynch myself) which is why I voted to eliminate him. Just to scare him a little against doing that in the future. :Tongue:



So he's most likely innocent, but you want to lynch him because he might distract us from our goal of...lynching...guilty...people...

[Beskar]

So he's most likely innocent, but you want to lynch him because he might distract us from our goal of...lynching...guilty...people...

Indeed, that is what I said too a couple of posts up.

[Secura]

the mastermind behind some baiting plan

I think we have a winner! :P

[Sasaki Kojiro]

:laugh4:

[Myrddraal]

:shame:

[Centurion1]

why the votes on beskar he acts scummy no matter who he is.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I just got information from my operative Agent Michael Scarn that Beskar is a townie and that we should not kill him.
@TinCow: I had never felt an udder before, I'm sorry if I made you uncomfortable.

[Seon]

Alrighty then.

unvote. Vote: Abstain

[seireikhaan]

By the way what did Kage guy do?
Win the town Mafia VIII. :embarassed:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Win the town Mafia VIII. :embarassed:

Speaking of which...

*points to signature*

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Alrighty then.

unvote. Vote: Abstain

CR said that abstain votes were not allowed this time.

[CCRunner]

If find it humorous that I got some votes without even playing the game :tongue:

I love you guys too :love:

[Crazed Rabbit]

Voting was closed a while (3 hours) ago. Sorry, I wasn't up early enough to post it as it happened.

Votes will now be counted.

CR

[Thermal]

Seeing as at least two people have found the red writing to be a problem, I will type in normal ink, happy now? :tongue:


Many thanks for speaking, Psychonaut. :bow:

Unvote; Vote: Sigurd

Next... :whip:

Persistently voting for lurkers might seem like a noble thing to do but it isn't likely to find your culprit, Psychonaut sees lots of votes on his name, appears once and you let him off the hook, I'm not saying he is mafia, but if he is he didn't have to try hard to convince you otherwise. :inquisitive:



And here I was planning to take it easy until something more interesting came up.
There has been no murders yet. No-one is acting too suspicious, all though Thermal's red text is odd. What is he trying to tell us about that?

I did post in green to show I didn't write red as an indication of my alignment, I've scrapped that because it confused everyone.



I will give you a tip, people who voted for me were Mafia. Because it is pretty obvious I am not a mafia, thus, they are mafia trying to go for an easy lynch.


People were voting for you because your actions are so anti-productive, I don't care if your town, mafia or a cannibalistic sheep, to be frank your constant Atheotes obsession should be left in the bedroom, not in public. :wink: For what its worth, I don't think you are mafia, though. :shrug:



'I'm gonna side with Beskar on this one. With his luck, atheotes probably is mafia, whether his joke claim was intended to cause mischief or not.

Vote: atheotes.' < (Choatix)

Very much a mafia style "give a plausible reason + bandwagon vote" post.

Except it wasn't even a plausible reason from Choatix, he usually analyzes a game better than he has been, suspicious vibes. :whip: I'll still stick to Psychonaut as hes acting identically to how he did when he was mafia in a game I hosted (more or less :tongue: ), if CR came on a bit later I would have changed to Choatix though...


Considering that Psycho finally spoke there is no sense in still voting him for now, so Unvote: Psychonaut.



:inquisitive: What kind of a theory is that, do you believe mafia aren't aloud to talk or something...I think your changing your vote just because you can, not because you have a better lead. :juggle2:


Thing is, I don't think either Kage or Beskar are guilty... As far as I can tell, Kage got confused by a series of posts which are still confusing me. That's hardly very scummy. Beskar is wasting everyone's time. He's probably not guilty, but he's not exactly the model townie either.

Bandwagoning at this early stage of the game isn't so bad in itself, since there's little evidence to go by, you need to go for someone... but usually those who do bandwagon innocently either have thought it through completely, or not at all. Chaotix's post does look like an attempt to post a thought through reason, but it's a pretty poor one...

Vote: Chaotix

If anyone wonders what I think at the moment, I agree wholeheartedly with the above. :balloon2:

Too late to change my vote though

[Kagemusha]

Alright im back after 13 hour workday. I really must confess that some of you people crack me up.I am not sure that did you lynch me today or not as i havent had time to count the votes. I think people should actually read the thread and not just blindly follow the ones who are loudly barking over others. Im not going to start a big speech here. Just would like to point out couple things from yesterday and today that anyone can make their own conclusions about:

In my first post i vote ATGP, because he is seemingly voting a player that has announced he would be gone. The first reaction is that White_eyes:D instantly votes me with the following reasoning:

"So this might not be a ploy and people have stopped lying in mafia games? *Cough*Chicago Sorrie*Cough* "

Now i dont know what Chicago Sorrie is, maybe a reacent mafia game? Cant really tell. But how i understand it is that he criticizes me from being naive and votes me based on that. I really dont know, maybe someone oughta ask him.

Next Yaropolk posts followong:

"Methos posted that he's leaving for the weekend in every game he's playing (Then there were none, Swords & D20's, and here) so I don't think it's an evil ploy. I suggest ATPG should take his vote off Methos....since Sigurd and Psychonaut have a few votes on them I'll vote Louis IV - come out of the woodwork lurkers and speak up! "

I understand the post so that Method has been using weekend trips as stratagem, thus atgp´s vote seems logical. So i turn my vote to Atheotes, whom have been accused by Beskar of being mafia at that point. Because of that im accused of jumping a bandwagon against Atheotes whom have been voted by several other players, whom have not been accused of such thing. Yaropolk chances his vote to me, next Sasaki jumps in the bandwagon and rest is history.

To put it short id think twice whom here was crreating a bandwagon and whm was the target. Just for your observation in future games if im dead already.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Gerard counted the votes.

At least this day no one had voted to abstain. Several more had not voted at all. He wondered which was better.

At least today had a vote leader and no tie. Hans had actually remembered some obscure book of laws for Hapsburg officials in regards to settling ties when mobs of people where voting for someone to be executed. He couldn't imagine who would have thought to write official rules on that.

But no tie today, which meant no explaining the rules.

He stood up, "Soldiers and travelers, I have twice counted the votes and Kagemusha is to be lynched today." - the crowd murmured and distanced themselves from Kagemusha - "I've had a couple of my soldiers..."

"Are you sure?" asked Kagemusha, staring straight at Gerard.

"What? Of course I am. Now, the soldiers..."

"You should check again." stated Kagemusha.

"Who do you think...alright, I'll check," agreed Gerard. Hans stood silently as Gerard went back to the tally.

"See, I've got you marked as voting for...oh, wait. It appears you voted for Beskar. I guess that means we're tied right now."

"And you know what that means!" said Hans, overly helpful.

Gerard sighed, "This means we will have an instant runoff. Everyone who voted for Beskar or Kagemusha will have their votes remain. Whichever one of them gets one more vote will be chosen to be lynched. The first person to change their vote from one of them to the other, or the first person who voted for someone else and then votes for Beskar or Kagemusha, will decide who will be lynched.
"I suppose,"he sighed again, "A few minutes more of discussion couldn't hurt, so this will continue until one of them is lynched."

We are now in the Instant Runoff Phase! Beskar and Kagemusha are tied for votes. Whichever one gets one more vote will be lynched. People who already voted for one cannot vote for the same person again. They can switch their vote. Everyone who voted for somebody else can also vote.

Beskar: 6 (Kage, Seamus, GH, Subotan, Scienter, Seon)
Kagemusha: 6 (Diamondeye, Sasaki, White Eyes, Yaropolk, Cultured Drizzt Fan, Johnhughtom)

[Kagemusha]

Vote: Beskar id rather lynch a liar then myself.

[Secura]

It appears my vote wasn't counted, so I reiterate; Beskar is more than likely town.

vote: Kagemusha

[Beskar]

unvote; vote: Kagemusha

I am not mafia, so pointless for me to commit suicide.

[Kagemusha]

unvote; vote: Kagemusha

I am not mafia, so pointless for me to commit suicide.

The thing is that that you have been lying and being unconstructive, while my sin is that i were bandwagoned. Pretty simple decesion according mafia "rules"(Though in the end i doubt either of us is actually guilty.)

[Centurion1]

unvote; vote: beskar

you sah are always a threat.

[Secura]

The thing is that that you have been lying and being unconstructive, while my sin is that i were bandwagoned. Pretty simple decesion according mafia "rules"(Though in the end i doubt either of us is actually guilty.)

But you have to ask yourself, why the fudge would mafia do what Beskie did, to draw all that attention to himself?

And then ask yourself the very same question, but if Beskie was town instead; it was a ruse in order to lure out scummy elements who would seize the opportunity to vote Beskar or atheotes, playing on a feud of theirs that's existed for a while, apparantly.

[johnhughthom]

We are now in the Instant Runoff Phase! Beskar and Kagemusha are tied for votes. Whichever one gets one more vote will be lynched.

So Secura's vote is the only one which counts?

[Secura]

So Secura's vote is the only one which counts?

Yes; it appears my original vote for Kagemusha did not count, so I simply revoted as I did before. :3

[Centurion1]

But you have to ask yourself, why the fudge would mafia do what Beskie did, to draw all that attention to himself?

And then ask yourself the very same question, but if Beskie was town instead; it was a ruse in order to lure out scummy elements who would seize the opportunity to vote Beskar or atheotes, playing on a feud of theirs that's existed for a while, apparantly.

im sorry but i cant take this seriously....... i mean beskie HA!

john its basically an extension.

[Crazed Rabbit]

It appears my vote wasn't counted, so I reiterate; Beskar is more than likely town.

vote: Kagemusha

Alas, you were 4 minutes past the deadline.

Anyways, now Kage will be lynched. Write up in a bit.

Begin planning your night time shenanigans, everyone. Night phase will officially start after I post the write up.


So Secura's vote is the only one which counts?

Yes.

CR

[Beskar]

The thing is that that you have been lying and being unconstructive, while my sin is that i were bandwagoned. Pretty simple decesion according mafia "rules"(Though in the end i doubt either of us is actually guilty.)

No I haven't. It is funny that people saw through what I was up to, like Sasaki, Pizza, etc. Seperates the wheat from the chaff.

[Seon]

Vote: Kagemusha. Kagemusha is an unknown where Beskar is probably just a townie messing up my head.

[Kagemusha]

But you have to ask yourself, why the fudge would mafia do what Beskie did, to draw all that attention to himself?

And then ask yourself the very same question, but if Beskie was town instead; it was a ruse in order to lure out scummy elements who would seize the opportunity to vote Beskar or atheotes, playing on a feud of theirs that's existed for a while, apparantly.

Maybe then you should actually ask that from the players that actually started to vote Atheotes. Persoanlly i dont think Beskars stunt wasnt any kind of ruse. He was just being himself in another words bit "chaotic".

EDIT: Well thank you very much for the game. If you would like to look for real scum I would start by checking more into the crowd that bandwagoned me. In other words people take your head from the brush and start to think with your own brains.

[Secura]

Maybe then you should actually ask that from the players that actually started to vote Atheotes. Persoanlly i dont think Beskars stunt wasnt any kind of ruse. He was just being himself in another words bit "chaotic".

It doesn't matter whether someone voted for Beskar or atheotes, they would have fallen into his trap. Anyone who voted as such and kept their vote on either of the two is probably on Beskie's FoS list.

[Centurion1]

^ once again lol.

im sorry but its just too funny.

yeah john i lied to you.

[Kagemusha]

It doesn't matter whether someone voted for Beskar or atheotes, they would have fallen into his trap. Anyone who voted as such and kept their vote on either of the two is probably on Beskie's FoS list.

So people get on Beskars FOS list while i get bandawgoned to death. Well like i just said thanks for the game.

[johnhughthom]

yeah john i lied to you.

np, I never pay much attention to you anyway.




:clown:

[Beskar]

Also, I am fully aware atheotes' private message was most likely a joke, I just couldn't resist taking up his offer of putting together a flawed case.

[Kagemusha]

Also, I am fully aware atheotes' private message was most likely a joke, I just couldn't resist taking up his offer of putting together a flawed case.

But ofcourse. Well to be quite honest i truly hope the hopeless sheep of this fort will follow your "grand strategy" to the end, hopefully particularly bloody one. As there is little suspect that it will only make their end in the hands of Turks come rather sooner then later.:evilgrin:

[Thermal]

Also, I am fully aware atheotes' private message was most likely a joke, I just couldn't resist taking up his offer of putting together a flawed case.

If that is the case, then why were you so forceful with it? Why didn't you just show the PM and leave it to our judgment, instead of filling the forum with Atheotes aggro?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Gerard motioned the soldiers to Kagemusha.

Kagemusha was appalled at this turn of events, and turned to stare at Beskar.

"I am to be hung because this pathetic sack of flesh and bones wanted to play some trivial game? I have traveled Europe only to be done in because of some insect's tricks?" Kage started to advance to Beskar.

"I will not allow this shallow brained creature to continue breathing!" he roared and leaped at Beskar.

One of the soldiers took hold of Kage's arm, but he was thrown off. More soldiers grabbed Kage and bore him to the ground, then to the gallows.

"You pathetic fools!" Kage screamed as he struggled, and continued to scream and yell as he was dragged up the gallow stairs.

"Hang him already," said Gerard.

As the soldiers bound Kage's hands behind him, he stopped cursing at the crowd. As the noose was placed over his head, he became calm.

With an iron gaze, he seemed to stare at each person in the crowd.

"I will see you all in hell!" Such was his tone and intensity that some men decided to give up on sin altogether right then and there.

And then the door swung open and Kage dropped down. His face strained, but he didn't scream or babble. Soon, his face relaxed and his eyes went dead, and some time after that he was cut down.

The body was placed next to the outer wall, where the cold would keep it from decomposing until it could be buried outside.

The night phase has begun! The night phase will last 36 hours, until 12:30 AM PST Monday, March 15.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If you would like to look for real scum I would start by checking more into the crowd that bandwagoned me. In other words people take your head from the brush and start to think with your own brains.

Speaking as someone who didn't bandwagon Kage, and that's a lot of people, I can say that if I were mafia, I wouldn't have had to do anything this round except what I did, which was basically nothing. One vote on Methos, and that's all I had to do to survive the round with basically no suspicion. There's dozens of others just like that. I'd start there.

I personally consider this wagon to be more indicative of silly uneducated peasantry... the miserable fools who have lost faith in the random lord, and can't read even to spare their own lives.

[Secura]

I personally consider this wagon to be more indicative of silly uneducated peasantry... the miserable fools who have lost faith in the random lord, and can't read even to spare their own lives.

We love you too, Pizza-chan. :P

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Kage is sounding too bitter at the town to have been guilty.

[Beskar]

Kage's write-up did look scummy though.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Kage's write-up did look scummy though.

So does your face.

[Kagemusha]

Kage is sounding too bitter at the town to have been guilty.

Well you get bit upset when a lynched as innocent. By the way didnt you appear to post in the thread in timely fashion. Maybe now that there is one townie less my reasonings to do what i did before i got lynched sound more convincing. I think congratulations for creating a successfull bandwagon are in order.

[Secura]

So does your face.

This makes me laugh because his actual face looks like that of someone who wouldn't hurt a fly.

Then again, you know what they say about the silent ones... :P

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Well you get bit upset when a lynched as innocent. By the way didnt you appear to post in the thread in timely fashion. Maybe now that there is one townie less my reasonings to do what i did before i got lynched sound more convincing. I think congratulations for creating a successfull bandwagon are in order.

Yeah, but you got upset at a few votes tossed your way and suggested we lynch you. That sounded more like mafia. Like you had a particular reason not to want to die, unlike just being a townie.

The "traveled Europe" bit from the lynch scene is odd, but CR said he wasn't revealing role until a couple days later.

[Yaropolk]

The "traveled Europe" bit from the lynch scene is odd, but CR said he wasn't revealing role until a couple days later.

I cant find the post explaining most-mortem role reveals -can you link it?

[Csargo]

Sorry Kage for inviting you to be the first lynch of the game.:shame:

I so would have voted Beskar.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I cant find the post explaining most-mortem role reveals -can you link it?

OP--"adding some Irish moss"


Most aspects of roles will be revealed on the third morning after a character's death, though certain characters will remain mysterious and actions will not be revealed until after the game is complete. (From Seamus' capo rules)