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Diamondeye

10-26-2010, 22:48

I find it hilarious that Beskar is going to return from Israel on Friday, open his SW:FotO Role PM and jump right into the thread... only to find out he's been vigged on Night One; expect a strong metagaming argument when he does, unless he's too enraptured with Fable 3 to care. xD

Nonetheless, credit where it's due... good job, Sasaki.

I was about to ask you if you had talked with him about the game. Now that we're in the "meta".mood. But he's been away? convenient.

Also; is Fable III any good?

Renata

10-26-2010, 22:49

vote: Diamondeye

Double A

10-26-2010, 22:51

vote: Diamondeye

Renata's not a very big Moleneux fan, I see.

Diamondeye

10-26-2010, 22:51

vote: Diamondeye

Care to enlighten me why you want to waste today's lynch? I'm going to bed now and if there's a runaway bandwagon when I wake up tomorrow, I'm going to be disappointed in this here Jedi council.

Renata

10-26-2010, 22:53

Basically, every single post you've made is scummier than the last. There's really nothing more to it than that.

Secura

10-26-2010, 22:57

I was about to ask you if you had talked with him about the game. Now that we're in the "meta".mood. But he's been away? convenient.

Beskar's been on holiday since Sunday 17th, I managed to see him for a bit on the Saturday; he has gone to Israel with family, to visit various locations of architectural, historical and religious importance. Anyone who knows him and/or has him as an MSN contact can easily verify that fact if you deem it 'convenient', Diamondeye.

Bear in mind that this game did start early; both Flax and Beskar intended to return to play it, both are currently on holiday.

Also; is Fable III any good?

I have no idea; I'm British, I won't be able to play it until it's European launch on Friday.

Askthepizzaguy

10-26-2010, 22:58

Pizza, both "they" and "it" are gender neutral.

Or you could use "he and/or she."

I do use "it" sometimes, but in other cases the pronoun "he" is more readable. "It" is slightly disrespectful in my view. "He and/or she" is cumbersome to type and read. "They" doesn't make sense in most sentences.

The writeup is more enjoyable this way. Sorry ladies, I use the pronoun "he" as a default neutral pronoun because guys seem to be more sensitive about being called "she".

Double A

10-26-2010, 23:01

I do use "it" sometimes, but in other cases the pronoun "he" is more readable. "It" is slightly disrespectful in my view. "He and/or she" is cumbersome to type and read. "They" doesn't make sense in most sentences.

The writeup is more enjoyable this way. Sorry ladies, I use the pronoun "he" as a default neutral pronoun because guys seem to be more sensitive about being called "she".

Copy/paste :tongue:

Seon

10-26-2010, 23:04

Vote: Major Robert Dump

Silence breeds uncertainty, uncertainty brings darkness, darkness brings doubt, all of these things are the path to the dark side.

soup567

10-26-2010, 23:16

Wow LONG update. I lmao at the muffin man part.

And from the update it looks like the sith can get MOAR than one kill a night. That's not good.

Double A

10-26-2010, 23:19

Wow LONG update. I lmao at the muffin man part.

And from the update it looks like the sith can get MOAR than one kill a night. That's not good.

It also seems like the Sith don't know who the other Sith are.

soup567

10-26-2010, 23:21

It also seems like the Sith don't know who the other Sith are.

That doesn't make much sense though. I've never heard of the mafia not knowing who the other mafia are in a game.

Also... it is hard to take ATPG seriously in his updates. They start out serious and well written but then they might turn completely around and be funny. It's good writing though. Keep it up! :D
Also the "Are you threatening me Master Jedi?" part was funny too since that was from the movies.

Double A

10-26-2010, 23:23

That doesn't make much sense though. I've never heard of the mafia not knowing who the other mafia are in a game.

Also... it is hard to take ATPG seriously in his updates. They start out serious and well written but then they might turn completely around and be funny. It's good writing though. Keep it up! :D
Also the "Are you threatening me Master Jedi?" part was funny too since that was from the movies.

Yeah, well... I HAVE been in a game where the mafia didn't know who the other mafia were. So... :tongue:

TheFlax

10-26-2010, 23:27

It also seems like the Sith don't know who the other Sith are.

Why?

I'm on a portable device right now and reading the update was too painful. As Secura pointed out I'm on vacation, so no computer for me.

soup567

10-26-2010, 23:27

Yeah, well... I HAVE been in a game where the mafia didn't know who the other mafia were. So... :tongue:

Oh... Well I guess you have played MOAR games then me so I wouldn't know. My bad. I apologize.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-26-2010, 23:27

It also seems like the Sith don't know who the other Sith are.

Why do you think that?

robbiecon

10-26-2010, 23:37

Impressive update ATPG. Never been in one of your hosted games. Twas a busy night. Congrats Sasaki on taking down a Sith.

Askthepizzaguy

10-26-2010, 23:40

Impressive update ATPG. Never been in one of your hosted games. Twas a busy night. Congrats Sasaki on taking down a Sith.

:bow: Thank you robbiecon.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88

10-26-2010, 23:49

You can congratulate me for killing beskar.

PWNT. Congrats.

Vote: Pevergreen

Thy seem happy thy King did not vote, so Thy King votes for you. :balloon2:

Good write up ATPG!!

Seon

10-26-2010, 23:50

Oh dear.

Csargo

10-26-2010, 23:51

Vote:Double A

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 00:08

It also seems like the Sith don't know who the other Sith are.

yea... I'd kinda like to know how you know that too...

and did that last bit about the betrayal mean Pizza is leaving us?

Askthepizzaguy

10-27-2010, 00:09

ANNOUNCEMENT:

Yes, I am still working on Role PMs. This takes about 10 times as long as doing the writeup. There is way more behind the scenes stuff going on than you may realize.

I will announce when I am done. If, at that point, you did not get a result, you will not get a result.

The results won't be instantaneous. Strong am I with the Force, but not that strong.

God Emperor

10-27-2010, 01:07

Vote: Double A for now

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 01:16

vote:csargo for now

Double a better answer though :fishing:

Askthepizzaguy

10-27-2010, 01:39

ANNOUNCEMENT:

All night results are finished. If you feel there has been an oversight or error, contact me privately.

Csargo

10-27-2010, 01:40

vote:csargo for now

Double a better answer though :fishing:

Hey, hey no need for such things. Why vote me? I've always thought I was a pretty nice guy.

Zack

10-27-2010, 01:47

ANNOUNCEMENT:

All night results are finished. If you feel there has been an oversight or error, contact me privately.

So I shouldn't ask you in public how in the world I managed to fight off seven Sith Lords while eating pizza and reading the newspaper, then?

Sprig

10-27-2010, 02:00

So I shouldn't ask you in public how in the world I managed to fight off seven Sith Lords while eating pizza and reading the newspaper, then?

It was 6, I wasn't really attacking, more of an observer. I may have shot Force lighting at you a couple of times but that was just by accident.

Chaotix

10-27-2010, 02:31

Vote: Soup

Most posts he's made have been fluff without a whole lot of substance, restating the obvious, etc.

Not exactly a strong case, but better than a random vote right now.

Double A

10-27-2010, 02:45

pevergreen

10-27-2010, 02:50

I agree with Chaotix about soup, however something was posted which I just can't ignore.

Vote: Warman

Double A

10-27-2010, 02:51

Hey, hey no need for such things. Why vote me? I've always thought I was a pretty nice guy.

Well, you did vote for me without stating a reason.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 02:57

unvote, vote:double A

pevergreen

10-27-2010, 02:58

Also, which smart cookie decided to attack me.

Choxorn

10-27-2010, 02:58

Oh. Crap. I just saw this...

"What? More pathetic sheep to be slaughtered? Outstanding! My master will be so pleased."

... meaning my guess was wrong. Dang. I thought they wouldn't know each other because of the Assassin's attitude, but I really don't know much about him to even place him on a side.

Unless, of course, for some reason he didn't know who his master was disguised as. But that's like trying to predict the weather without any equipment whatsoever. It doesn't do any good just to guess about something.

The Assassin might be seperate from the Sith- he might be an insane serial killer of doom, or something.

Congratulations, Sasaki. With that said, why tell everyone you did that, and make yourself a big target for the Sith?

Also, I like the new "Win the Game" ability you gave me, Pizza. Can I use it now?

Askthepizzaguy

10-27-2010, 03:02

I dare someone to use their win the game ability now. Who are the Sith?

pevergreen

10-27-2010, 03:04

I dare someone to use their win the game ability now. Who are the Sith?

I a....wait a minute

Oh you. :laugh4:

Chaotix

10-27-2010, 03:12

The Assassin might be seperate from the Sith- he might be an insane serial killer of doom, or something.

Congratulations, Sasaki. With that said, why tell everyone you did that, and make yourself a big target for the Sith?

Also, I like the new "Win the Game" ability you gave me, Pizza. Can I use it now?

I think it's entirely possible our crazy assassin is not anti-town at all. The "cute little creature" part is almost certainly a reference to Andres' post yesterday, but I doubt his identity would be made that obvious.

If we go by exactly what happened, the crazy guy occupied the 'victim''s time and revealed his name to us. Could be some sort of combination of public investigator and roleblocker. Could also be exactly what it looks like, a deranged but ineffective killer. Too difficult to say at this point, but if we see more of him we'll probably learn a little more about his alignment.

Csargo

10-27-2010, 03:13

Well, you did vote for me without stating a reason.

My vote was because of what you said mostly. See, all you had to do was ask.

autolycus

10-27-2010, 03:17

Vote:Beefy187
Pure Instinct.

Frozen In Ice

10-27-2010, 03:27

Seon

10-27-2010, 03:44

I am not so certain, Frozen, what if there's some kind of conversion mechanic in place in this game?

seireikhaan

10-27-2010, 03:44

Vote: Frozen in Ice

Because you were the last person to post before I decided I should vote before going to sleep. Also, you might be mildly suspicious.

Renata

10-27-2010, 03:47

Ignoramus

10-27-2010, 07:23

I'm not sure if I believe Sasaki killed Revus. It's a big risk to out yourself after knocking off a powerful figure so early. I'm undecided at the moment.

pevergreen

10-27-2010, 07:56

One word: recruitment. Or at least there was in the last game. Nobody should be spilling their guts to anyone. Well, not for strategic reasons anyway. If you want to do it for giggles, be my guest.

Also, while I'd lay decent odds that Sasaki either is the vig in question or knows who the vig is, it's not completely impossible that the real vig is sitting back right now with his finger on the metaphorical trigger, sighting in Sasaki Kojiro down the scope. ;)

I'd also lay odds he claimed because he wants someone to protect him.

Either that or he's Sith and killed his teammate using some fake protown power just so he could enjoy Beskar swearing at him when he gets home. You know, rule #1 and all. But it's probably the protection thing.

It's past my bedtime.

I'm worried about the recruitment.

I'm not sure if I believe Sasaki killed Revus. It's a big risk to out yourself after knocking off a powerful figure so early. I'm undecided at the moment.

Sasaki would do that.

It was only a sith apprentice. Theres at least 2 other more powerful sith, yeah?

The question still is, who came after me.

naut

10-27-2010, 07:58

Vote: autolycus
Pure guesswork.

Csargo

10-27-2010, 08:12

I'm not sure if I believe Sasaki killed Revus. It's a big risk to out yourself after knocking off a powerful figure so early. I'm undecided at the moment.

I don't believe it.

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 08:13

I'm worried about the recruitment.

My guess is that since we just got an apprentice that the remaining Sith Lord might be able to corrupt another one (an initiate?)

It was only a sith apprentice. Theres at least 2 other more powerful sith, yeah?

If i'm remembering my Star Wars correctly, there are only ever two sith, a master and an apprentice. And didn't the opening writeup say that there was a master and apprentice? (as in not plural)

I bet the apprentice could make one kill a night (killing another Jedi tonight won't exactly be a stain on my conscience....) I'm thinking that ATPG would have said "yet another" or something similar to mean he had killed more than one and I have another reason I'll get to in a sec

The master would be able to make 2 kills a night (and/or possibly recruit a new apprentice if the old one was killed)

The other reason was that assuming that there are only two sith (which I find most likely) and the three kills performed by Sith it would make sense that the master would recieve 2 kills and the apprentice only one, especially if the apprentice was a recruitable role. There would be one quite powerful role (the master) possibly immune to everything but a lynch (although I'm sure if he was attacked we would at least discover his identity) and then a healthy supply of initiates to recruit if the previous one met an untimely end... Just my 2 cents...

The question still is, who came after me.

A vigalante who was unsure as to your allignment after the duel or perhaps a friend of Raskolnikov who wanted revenge?

Andres

10-27-2010, 08:25

Why are you all congratulating Sasaki :inquisitive: Besides, maybe the vig is a serial killer who accidentally killed a Sith night 1.

And thnx ATPG for confirming my innocence in your hilarious write-up :laugh4: :bow:

Vote : Csargo

You lied about the muffin man :brood:

Ignoramus

10-27-2010, 08:26

Has anyone done a lurker check yet?

pevergreen

10-27-2010, 08:58

The rule of two may not be in effect.

We don't know how this game is set up.

Cute Wolf

10-27-2010, 09:04

vote: double A

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 09:11

The rule of two may not be in effect.

We don't know how this game is set up.

Somehow, somewhere in the galaxy, there still must have been at least one Sith still standing. But we know from the security recordings that there are at least two now, a Master and an Apprentice.

I'm pretty sure it means start with 2, room for recruitment

Diamondeye

10-27-2010, 09:37

It was only a sith apprentice. Theres at least 2 other more powerful sith, yeah?

The question still is, who came after me.

I'd think there was only one other sith left; What reason do you have to believe otherwise?

Also, to me it didn't look like the action against you was dangerous. They guy threatened you with a lavalamp or somesuch and inquired about a completely irrelevant thing. He's some lunatic who wanted to test his ability on someone whose playername/alias combination was known. That's what I think, at least.

My guess is that since we just got an apprentice that the remaining Sith Lord might be able to corrupt another one (an initiate?)

If i'm remembering my Star Wars correctly, there are only ever two sith, a master and an apprentice. And didn't the opening writeup say that there was a master and apprentice? (as in not plural)

I bet the apprentice could make one kill a night (killing another Jedi tonight won't exactly be a stain on my conscience....) I'm thinking that ATPG would have said "yet another" or something similar to mean he had killed more than one and I have another reason I'll get to in a sec

The master would be able to make 2 kills a night (and/or possibly recruit a new apprentice if the old one was killed)

The other reason was that assuming that there are only two sith (which I find most likely) and the three kills performed by Sith it would make sense that the master would recieve 2 kills and the apprentice only one, especially if the apprentice was a recruitable role. There would be one quite powerful role (the master) possibly immune to everything but a lynch (although I'm sure if he was attacked we would at least discover his identity) and then a healthy supply of initiates to recruit if the previous one met an untimely end... Just my 2 cents...

... Correct me if I am mistaken; there were only 2 sith kills. Is there any compelling reason to believe that the setup isn't simply master-apprentice, with one kill each? If there is, what reason is that?
I'd think that means that the sith have recruitment - but I'd be baffled if it works exactly like in Sigurd's game. In fact, in the light of your "sith master has two actions"; people need to stop assuming that this game is exactly like Sigurd's. It isn't, I can say that already, just from the night 1 writeup.

Has anyone done a lurker check yet?

vote: double A

Snap, CW. Got anything constructive to say, apart from the cheap bandwagon vote?
unvote; vote: Cute Wolf

I'm pretty sure it means start with 2, room for recruitment

I think this is a correct assesment.

classical_hero

10-27-2010, 09:40

This thread moves fast. So far ther e is not much conclusive proof of anyone's guilt or innocence, but I think that vote:Double A has some explaining to do.

Diamondeye

10-27-2010, 09:42

Double-post in order to not edit a post with a vote:
@Secura: You can't blame me for being suspicious of everyone at this point of the game. I'm just prompting you for reactions.
@Renata: I'm sorry you think so. Personally, I can't imagine why a sith would act like I am doing. I think the sith are going to keep relatively quiet and certainly not be putting themselves at great lynch risk this early.

Also; I'll take a close look at the writeup later today and post my impressions and (what few there may be) deductions.

Andres

10-27-2010, 09:51

Ah, DiamondEye.

Unvote : Csargo; Vote : DiamondEye

Ever seen the eyes of a Sith? Don't they look like red diamonds? Ergo, DiamondEye is guilty. Unless somebody comes up with a better case, he should be our lynch of the day.

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 10:00

... Correct me if I am mistaken; there were only 2 sith kills. Is there any compelling reason to believe that the setup isn't simply master-apprentice, with one kill each? If there is, what reason is that?

wow... I totally thought there were 3 kills (or attempts) I must have been counting Sasaki's pwnage :laugh4:

Nope, I can't think of any... man.. I coulda sworn there were three sith attacks... but anyways...

So we're after the remaining sith lord with a kill a night and possibly an ability to recruit
as well as (or instead of) the kill

I'd say we're off to a good start

pevergreen

10-27-2010, 10:08

@DE: I dont remember the write-up. I could go back and check, but - effort.

I'm with Andres. Unvote, Vote: DE

ArpeggiateTHIS

10-27-2010, 10:10

Why are you all congratulating Sasaki :inquisitive:

This puzzled me, and I'm sure that last time I congratulated Sasaki (in ATPG's Wager Mafia) my head nearly rolled. Because congratulating town is scummy (I actually was scum, I'll have you know).

Renata? Seon? Diamondeye?

Vote: Diamondeye

Beefy187

10-27-2010, 10:42

Vote: Autolycus

OMGUS vote :bow:

naut

10-27-2010, 10:45

classical_hero. classical apprehensive townie post.

Diamondeye

10-27-2010, 11:12

Go team Force Breath :thumbsup:

Edit: Summary of my analysis of night 1 events:

Kerrin Kae was killed by a sith - the battle was one-sided, but not clearly.
The sith used a red lightsaber in form 1 pose.
The sith used force speed, force pull, force push, and "force dark energy" power.
It should be noted that Kerrin Kae was returning from training with Nomi.

Si-At Unegh was killed by a sith - completely trampled, in fact. He didn't stand a chance.
Unegh only had a "force stun" ability to defend himself, and it proved utterly ineffective.
The attacking sith used a red lightsaber, in form 3 pose. He didn't need to use force powers.

Jax Revus - who showed up sith upon death - was attacked and killed by an unknown attacker. The battle was very close.
Revus himself used two lightsabers; yellow and red. He used those in a form 1 pose.
Furthermore, he used a force push ability. He was a sith apprentice, and admits that he had been killing a jedi earlier that night
The unknown attacker used purple lightsaber, in form 3 pose.
He also used a "force distraction" power, to great effect (it won him the battle, the way I read it).
It should be noted that the unknown figure was referred to as a "Master", and that he seems to be out of a common race - human, perhaps? In all cases, a different race than Jax Revus.

Jacin Sky was attacked by an unknown attacker, but escaped. The match was extremely even.
Sky himself used a lightsaber - its colour is not mentioned, but we know he carries a green one from his duel - his pose is not mentioned, but we know he knows the form 3 defensive pose.
Furthermore, he seems to have used a "force speed" or "force leap" to escape - we know he possesses the latter ability.
The assailant used a blue lightsaber, in a form 2 pose.

Carnus Daye was threatened and "pseudo-interrogated" by a crazy lunatic. The writeup seems to indicate that the ambusher bluffed his possession of a red lightsaber through the use of a lamp of some sort.

... From this, I conclude:

Beskar - Jax Revus, the sith apprentice - was the one who killed Kerrin Kae. He uses the same lightsaber form and one of the same force powers as Kae's assassin. Furthermore, it looks as if Kerrin's fight was much closer than Si-At Unegh's - fitting for a sith apprentice, in comparison to his master.

... It should also be considered:

- Are both of the attackers who are not sith aligned with the town, or are we dealing with third parties? In my opinion, it is not clear from the writeup if either of the attackers are clearly pro-town, although Beskar's killer did slay a sith, he struck me as a bit neutral-looking; he's not very Jedi-esque in his manners, and he attacks a silent player on night 1; vigilante or serial killer? Very little is told about the other attacker.

TinCow

10-27-2010, 12:08

Anyway because no one is counter claiming Sasaki's claim of Sith killing awesomeness everyone should go spill their guts to him so we can rap this up by day 3. Who knows, maybe he'll even discover which one of us is the muffin man.

:stare: Sasaki is not to be trusted, he is only to be enjoyed.

I'm not feeling the DE bandwagon.

Death is yonder

10-27-2010, 12:08

You'd better hope it works very well then :thumbsup:

Vote: Diamondeye

Also if the write up is any indication at all, from my quick-read I doubt that Sasaki would be so willing to reveal himself as Beskar's killer considering how the write-up alludes to somebody possibly rolling down the slippery slope of the dark-side, but then again the details or at least some inkling of the conversion mechanic isn't public yet so the point is moot :thinking:

Extra Note After Previewing and Seeing DE's post:

Yeah, but the point is largely unclear on the identity/leanings of the attacker especially that of Beskar's killer.

Depends if those details are fluff or genuine allusions.

TinCow

10-27-2010, 12:17

Ignore this, error on my part. Too little caffeine to read properly.

God Emperor

10-27-2010, 12:28

What exactly is the reason behind the Diamondeye bandwagon? Why are you voting for him DiY?

Seon

10-27-2010, 12:30

AtPG said himself that detective deduction using colour of the sabre ie INEFFECTIVE.

Also from what clue in the writeup do you know that the Assassin wielded a lavalamp instead of an oversized blowtorch?

Joooray

10-27-2010, 12:37

dcmort93

10-27-2010, 12:47

So I've kinda been following the thread and I would like to know what the case on DE is before I vote for him

Andres

10-27-2010, 12:52

Awesome write up, pizza.

So, can someone explain the case on DE, and why is Force Breath such a scummy force power?

Until then, I'll Vote: Andres, he claimed to be the Muffin Man loony, right?" I'd might be a role block, but the way I see it we can't have a crazy person like this running around without putting some scrutiny on him. And why so openly claim it?

Because I'm a crazy lunatic, of course. But a harmless one. If I would be able to kill, I would have used a lightsaber instead of Csar's lamp.

And there is no case on DE, that's why we're lynching him. Don't underestimate the powers of chaos and randomness. Don't ruin it by building a real case, or the crazy lunatic will visit you tonight :stare:

Raskolnikov

10-27-2010, 12:55

or perhaps a friend of Raskolnikov who wanted revenge?

Indeed, though it appears my killer partners suck at least as much as me in this business... :laugh4:

edit: great job ATPG with the write up. really impressive!

Renata

10-27-2010, 13:01

Joooray

10-27-2010, 13:13

Because I'm a crazy lunatic, of course. But a harmless one. If I would be able to kill, I would have used a lightsaber instead of Csar's lamp.

So what except of entertaining do you do?

Why would an initiate have Force Breath? That's that part of the issue. And why claim to have it at all at the time he did? What effect, other than to dissuade the town from actually lynching him? As for anything else there may or may not be on Diamondeye -- do the work yourselves.

So it seems the case is not as random as Andres suggests. I know it has been said somewhere before, but could someone again explain what Force Breath does, thanks.
Also, Atpg said that most initiates would have some kind of ability above their level, what makes you think this excludes Force Breath?

Andres

10-27-2010, 13:18

So what except of entertaining do you do?

Nothing. Entertaining is serious business, btw.

So it seems the case is not as random as Andres suggests. I know it has been said somewhere before, but could someone again explain what Force Breath does, thanks.
Also, Atpg said that most initiates would have some kind of ability above their level, what makes you think this excludes Force Breath?

Well, in the previous game, those with Force Breath proved to be unlynchable.

It's a pretty boring ability compared to my awesome powers.

Renata

10-27-2010, 13:23

Where did ATPG say that, Joooray?

TinCow

10-27-2010, 13:37

Until then, I'll Vote: Andres, he claimed to be the Muffin Man loony, right?" I'd might be a role block, but the way I see it we can't have a crazy person like this running around without putting some scrutiny on him. And why so openly claim it?

You're voting for Andres because you think he didn't kill someone last night? That makes no sense at all.

Vote: Joooray

naut

10-27-2010, 13:38

Sasaki [...] is only to be enjoyed
I find he goes best with some sharp jarlsberg, crackers and some fortified port.

Secura

10-27-2010, 13:39

Why would an initiate have Force Breath?

Force Breath was an Initiate-level ability in Sigurd's game, I believe.

could someone again explain what Force Breath does, thanks.

When there is a majority for a lynch, the victim is flushed out into the vast expanses of space; Force Breath allows them to survive this ordeal and return to the ship on one occasion. If there is a tie-vote then things progress to a duel instead.

I like Cute Wolf as a lynch option, I'd at least like to get him to come out of the woodwork and explain his cheap bandwagon vote with no explaination. So, vote:Cute Wolf

Andres

10-27-2010, 13:44

I find he goes best with some sharp jarlsberg, crackers and some fortified port.

:laugh4:

Rebel Jeb

10-27-2010, 14:04

Vote: Joooray

Joooray

10-27-2010, 14:04

Where did ATPG say that, Joooray?

In the FAQ:
Active abilities are mostly your standard mafia-type powers like investigation, kill, protect, and so forth. Those are usually reserved for higher-ranked Jedi only, although there are a few low-level abilities given to certain lucky padawans and initiates.

Sometimes a Padawan or Initiate has innate abilities that go beyond their level, in fact most of them begin with an ability that is "ahead of their class" as a bonus. It softens the blow of being an Initiate or Padawan; getting one slightly more advanced power than they should otherwise have.

You're voting for Andres because you think he didn't kill someone last night? That makes no sense at all.

No, I said that I found it strange he'd be so open about being that loony and that I wanted to discuss if other were also thinking that is loonyness could translate into something dangerous when the game moves on.

When there is a majority for a lynch, the victim is flushed out into the vast expanses of space; Force Breath allows them to survive this ordeal and return to the ship on one occasion. If there is a tie-vote then things progress to a duel instead.

Okay, I see and was it often a Sith power?

So is this bandwagon on DE directed at testing the ability or because it is associated with Sith? If the former, why not aim for a tie to have a least a chance of killing DE?
Were the ones that survived the lynch executed some other way or was it necessary to kill them during the night?

Vote: Joooray

Twice on the same day, you really don't like me, do you?! :laugh4:

Death is yonder

10-27-2010, 14:10

What exactly is the reason behind the Diamondeye bandwagon? Why are you voting for him DiY?

Not much reason really, the reality is simply that most if not all lynches at this point are going to be pretty much senseless unless someone really does something silly, and IMO I'd prefer a conclusive voting rather than to just leave it all up to ties and dueling.

I would surmise that we would feel very silly in retrospect if on a hypothetical occasion where the sith was tied with someone during voting and by chance managed to escape alive, conclusive voting is really what matters for me in this early game stage since there is essentially nothing concrete to go on, just suppositions.

Basically I just want a conclusive lynch, not ties which open the possibilities to sith in contention being saved inadvertently or purposefully, and it just so happens that Diamondeye is in the lead, and claiming a lynch survival ability which I'm not sure if it tallies with his claimed rank of Initiate (didn't play Sigurd's game). Moreover, if Diamondeye is telling the truth, then we have nothing to fear if he's a jedi because then he would survive, and we would obtain this particular piece of information, whatever the proceedings reveal.

In any case, the current scenario provides an opportunity for information gathering which IIRC was used pretty successfully to cross-reference facts in the previous Star Wars Game (Sigurd's)

No, I said that I found it strange he'd be so open about being that loony and that I wanted to discuss if other were also thinking that is loonyness could translate into something dangerous when the game moves on.

I think he's just having fun Joooray :tongue:

Besides, its highly entertaining :laugh4:

Renata

10-27-2010, 14:17

Force Breath was an Initiate-level ability in Sigurd's game, I believe.

Padawan actually, not that that is particularly relevant to this game. But I note Joooray's quoting of the rules, and it does seem entirely consistent with DE's behavior that he could be one of those lucky players.

That means I should actually put the rest of his posts together to see if they're worth a vote without that data point; I'll do that in a bit.

unvote while this is pending.

Renata

10-27-2010, 14:20

Okay, I see and was it often a Sith power?

Anyone could get it; I don't remember if the Sith had a greater likelihood or not. They got more powers (more often) in general, of course. It became a bit of a pain toward the end, so I hope it's been limited in this game.

Yaropolk

10-27-2010, 14:23

FOS @ D_E - for an initiate he sure knows a lot of force powers

Vote: Rebel Jeb his only post so far is a BW on Jooray.

Joooray

10-27-2010, 14:23

I think he's just having fun Joooray :tongue:

Besides, its highly entertaining :laugh4:

I know he is having fun, and I find it also highly entertaining. I'm just wondering what kind of role would show up in the write up for mere entertaining purpose, that sounds a bit strange to me.

TinCow

10-27-2010, 14:26

No, I said that I found it strange he'd be so open about being that loony and that I wanted to discuss if other were also thinking that is loonyness could translate into something dangerous when the game moves on.

The fact remains, Andres is claiming a role that is shown in the write-up not killing someone on a night when two other people were killed. Seems like a poor choice for a townie vote, and would serve only to get rid of a higher-priority target for the Sith. Besides, if you're that concerned about someone going anti-town later in the game based on their actions last night, Sasaki should be your vote, not Andres.

Joooray

10-27-2010, 14:27

Anyone could get it; I don't remember if the Sith had a greater likelihood or not. They got more powers (more often) in general, of course. It became a bit of a pain toward the end, so I hope it's been limited in this game.

I see, I'm just curious because it was said elsewhere that everybody that had (claimed?) that ability, was lynched, so I thought it implied some kind of guilt. Or was there another reasoning for that?

Andres

10-27-2010, 14:31

I know he is having fun, and I find it also highly entertaining. I'm just wondering what kind of role would show up in the write up for mere entertaining purpose, that sounds a bit strange to me.

I am Jedi Entertainer Muff'inm 'an slayer.

My abilities are not being able to kill, not having active or passive force powers, not having a lightsaber; but I do appear in the write-ups if I decide to do something.

Allthough the host refused to use my weapon of choice in the write-up: a green banana :bigcry: And he forgot the gigantic golden frie and the flying oiled submarine :brood:

Anyway, give me 5 good reasons for not lynching Diamondeye.

Joooray

10-27-2010, 14:46

The fact remains, Andres is claiming a role that is shown in the write-up not killing someone on a night when two other people were killed. Seems like a poor choice for a townie vote, and would serve only to get rid of a higher-priority target for the Sith. Besides, if you're that concerned about someone going anti-town later in the game based on their actions last night, Sasaki should be your vote, not Andres.

Alright, I give you that he wouldn't be a very good lynch, but my vote was merely to get a discussion about this started. Sure I could have just stated my thoughts, but it seems underlying it with a vote puts more emphasis on it and gets more people to respond. As is proven this time again.

But I guess I achieved what I wanted. So Unvote; Vote:dcmort. I'm sorry buddy, but you were the 3rd on the bandwagon yesterday, blaming random.org doesn't convince me as you stayed with it even after it came apparent that Ras would be a front runner for the lynch.

Anyway, give me 5 good reasons for not lynching Diamondeye.

I don't find the case against him particularly convincing, that's enough reason for me.
Also it seems there are already enough people in favour of this and so I might as well be the person thinking about different targets this time around.

pevergreen

10-27-2010, 14:50

Man, I'm almost ready to follow Andres to the end of the...ship?

Andres

10-27-2010, 14:53

I don't find the case against him particularly convincing, that's enough reason for me.
Also it seems there are already enough people in favour of this and so I might as well be the person thinking about different targets this time around.

That's only 2 reasons and the second one doesn't count, because you said the first was enough for you.

EDIT: ok, ok, enough of this silly nonsense. I can't expect you guys to blindly follow me.

The case against DiamondEye consists of several elements: thread behaviour, investigation results and gut feelings.

I hereby present you the case against DiamondEye:

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/vliegendevarkens.jpg

Ehm, sorry about that.

Here it is:

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Case.jpg

Joooray

10-27-2010, 15:00

Okay, if you give me more flying piggies I might reconsider!

Diamondeye

10-27-2010, 15:13

Why would an initiate have Force Breath? That's that part of the issue. And why claim to have it at all at the time he did? What effect, other than to dissuade the town from actually lynching him? As for anything else there may or may not be on Diamondeye -- do the work yourselves.

Because it is an initiate ability, I think?

I like Cute Wolf as a lynch option, I'd at least like to get him to come out of the woodwork and explain his cheap bandwagon vote with no explaination. So, vote:Cute Wolf

:bow:

Not much reason really, the reality is simply that most if not all lynches at this point are going to be pretty much senseless unless someone really does something silly, and IMO I'd prefer a conclusive voting rather than to just leave it all up to ties and dueling.

I would surmise that we would feel very silly in retrospect if on a hypothetical occasion where the sith was tied with someone during voting and by chance managed to escape alive, conclusive voting is really what matters for me in this early game stage since there is essentially nothing concrete to go on, just suppositions.

Basically I just want a conclusive lynch, not ties which open the possibilities to sith in contention being saved inadvertently or purposefully, and it just so happens that Diamondeye is in the lead, and claiming a lynch survival ability which I'm not sure if it tallies with his claimed rank of Initiate (didn't play Sigurd's game). Moreover, if Diamondeye is telling the truth, then we have nothing to fear if he's a jedi because then he would survive, and we would obtain this particular piece of information, whatever the proceedings reveal.

In any case, the current scenario provides an opportunity for information gathering which IIRC was used pretty successfully to cross-reference facts in the previous Star Wars Game (Sigurd's)

I can buy the information gathering, but if you want a conclusive lynch, why not vote for someone who won't survive it?

Anyone could get it; I don't remember if the Sith had a greater likelihood or not. They got more powers (more often) in general, of course. It became a bit of a pain toward the end, so I hope it's been limited in this game.

It was even likelihood for all, if I recall correctly.

The fact remains, Andres is claiming a role that is shown in the write-up not killing someone on a night when two other people were killed. Seems like a poor choice for a townie vote, and would serve only to get rid of a higher-priority target for the Sith. Besides, if you're that concerned about someone going anti-town later in the game based on their actions last night, Sasaki should be your vote, not Andres.

Good points, Tincow. Keep up the good work :bow: you're among the sharpest players here - it's good to see you haven't descended to brainless bandwagoning.

pevergreen

10-27-2010, 15:30

Yah, last game basically all the sith had force breath, but quite a few innocents as well. Still, there is a big case against you.

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 15:35

Indeed, though it appears my killer partners suck at least as much as me in this business... :laugh4:

Oh, I didn't mean scummy friends, just some special role who didn't really like our inhospitable lynch of you

Askthepizzaguy

10-27-2010, 15:36

Announcement:

I will be out for the remainder of the day. Round ends at 11:59:59 PM tonight Eastern time whether I am here to stop the round or not.

Also, past the deadline hour, kindly refrain from posting. If there's a mod around, lock it.

If you want a quick pace for this game, don't hesitate to send in your night actions early. I can't advance the game early unless every active ability sends in their orders, it's as important as the murders themselves.

Rebel Jeb

10-27-2010, 15:39

FOS @ D_E - for an initiate he sure knows a lot of force powers

Vote: Rebel Jeb his only post so far is a BW on Jooray.

Two votes is a BW? I thought a BW was like 4 or 5 at least...

And I posted before that, just not on this day. Go look through the pages again. :P

pevergreen

10-27-2010, 15:39

Just don't extend it if they dont send in orders.

Askthepizzaguy

10-27-2010, 15:40

Just don't extend it if they dont send in orders.

No extensions, under any circumstances, period.

But they do have 48 legal hours, plus this whole day, to send it in. There's really no excuse for not sending it in, in advance even. But everyone gets their full two days unless I have all orders and I can end it early.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 15:46

aarrrg, what's with the terrible bandwagon on DE? HE CAN'T BE LYNCHED TODAY

Now we need a bandwagon on someone else, cause DE got like 8 votes.

This thread moves fast. So far ther e is not much conclusive proof of anyone's guilt or innocence, but I think that vote:Double A has some explaining to do.

unvote, vote:classical hero

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 15:46

wow... I totally thought there were 3 kills (or attempts) I must have been counting Sasaki's pwnage :laugh4:

Nope, I can't think of any... man.. I coulda sworn there were three sith attacks... but anyways...

So we're after the remaining sith lord with a kill a night and possibly an ability to recruit
as well as (or instead of) the kill

I'd say we're off to a good start

Also fos:ByzKnight if it turns out there were 3 sith

pevergreen

10-27-2010, 16:02

fos: sasaki being mean

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 16:12

Also fos:ByzKnight if it turns out there were 3 sith

wait.. now there's 3 sith? how?

EDIT: I never said there were 3 sith, only 3 sith attacks :P read the post again

oh... I just caught the 'IF it turns out there were 3 sith' nevermind, please carry on

Death is yonder

10-27-2010, 16:28

I can buy the information gathering, but if you want a conclusive lynch, why not vote for someone who won't survive it?

By conclusive I mean having a clear person in the lead for voting in the day phase :bow:

Renata

10-27-2010, 16:42

Wow LONG update. I lmao at the muffin man part.

And from the update it looks like the sith can get MOAR than one kill a night. That's not good.

But typical.

Unnecessary statement of woe -- I have my eyes on you, soup.

Talking to DE, I'm not going to vote him today and my suspicions have lessened substantially. Significantly in his favor, despite the problems, is that he *is* really playing very loose and has been all along -- that's a town sign, even for him.

Not sure who I'll vote for yet instead, still pending.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 16:44

vote classical hero!

Renata

10-27-2010, 16:52

Okay, sir.

vote: Classical Hero

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 16:59

You guys have room for a :drummer:?

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 17:06

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https://i55.tinypic.com/1yu7hj.gif
https://i55.tinypic.com/1yu7hj.gif
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ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 17:09

https://i55.tinypic.com/1yu7hj.gif

Thats the one I was looking for!! I thought it was one of the default ones so I spent 10 minutes looking for it with no luck

But on-topic, I don't really see a strong case against either DE or CH

and is there anyone who does not vote bandwagon here??

Secura

10-27-2010, 17:14

Okay, I see and was it often a Sith power?

In Sigurd's game, Beskar was the first 'recorded case' of having the Force Breath ability (I called him out on it at the time as I didn't believe a townie would have such an ability), and he was Dooku, one of the two Jedi Masters serving under Grand Master Yoda. Suspicious by name perhaps, but town-aligned from start to finish.

Raskolnikov

10-27-2010, 17:14

and is there anyone who does not vote bandwagon here??

Me, make your conclusions... :laugh4:

Skooma Addict

10-27-2010, 17:17

Because I'm a crazy lunatic, of course. But a harmless one. If I would be able to kill, I would have used a lightsaber instead of Csar's lamp.

And there is no case on DE, that's why we're lynching him. Don't underestimate the powers of chaos and randomness. Don't ruin it by building a real case, or the crazy lunatic will visit you tonight :stare:

I will be waiting, with a hookah and a jar of pickle juice.

Vote: Cute Wolfy for trying to suck the life out of Andres, or hopping on Double A bandwagon. Take your pick, but I like the sucking idea better.

a completely inoffensive name

10-27-2010, 17:32

Vote: Sasaki Just because I want to see if I die lololololollolololololololloolooollolololollolololololololololol.

Csargo

10-27-2010, 17:32

Unvote:whoever I voted, Vote: classicalhero

I agree with Sasaki? maybe. I think the bandwagon smiley makes some better points though.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 17:33

Vote: Sasaki Just because I want to see if I die lololololollolololololololloolooollolololollolololololololololol.

:stare:

Csargo

10-27-2010, 17:36

Oh ACIN, you so crazy.

Jarema

10-27-2010, 17:37

Vote: Andres
I do not like your reasoning about bandwagoning...
And I would rather have DE alive - his analysis of writeup was nice to read

Seon

10-27-2010, 17:53

I do not see the argument against classical hero, what has he done that invokes suspicion?

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 18:00

Read his post that I quoted!

This thread moves fast. So far ther e is not much conclusive proof of anyone's guilt or innocence, but I think that vote:Double A has some explaining to do.

Raskolnikov

10-27-2010, 18:02

Quoting Troy at cfc:

"The evidence is clear".

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 18:05

Read his post that I quoted!

Honestly it sounds like he just didn't bother to read the thread and he didn't want to get cut for lurking so he just hopped on the nearest bandwagon
scummy? a little, sith? probably not... if he was a sith he'd at least try and keep up with the thread a bit more

Csargo

10-27-2010, 18:08

Honestly it sounds like he just didn't bother to read the thread and he didn't want to get cut for lurking so he just hopped on the nearest bandwagon
scummy? a little, sith? probably not... if he was a sith he'd at least try and keep up with the thread a bit more

FoS:BK

Diamondeye

10-27-2010, 18:10

Yeah, okay, I'll unvote; vote: Classical Hero

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 18:10

FoS:BK

Am I really interpreting it that badly?

TinCow

10-27-2010, 18:21

And I would rather have DE alive - his analysis of writeup was nice to read

DE is not going to die, regardless of what happens. He claims to have lynch immunity, and he is probably telling the truth.

Csargo

10-27-2010, 18:29

Am I really interpreting it that badly?

Maybe.

Jarema

10-27-2010, 18:51

I have a noobie question

what it means: 'FoS: BK' ?

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 18:57

I have a noobie question

what it means: 'FoS: BK' ?

It means they suspect me of being scummy
as to what FoS stands for, I'm pretty sure it means one of the following:

Fuel Oil Supply
Florida Orthopaedic Society
French Onion Soup
Financial Operations Supervisor
Friend of Sapi
Festival of Speed
or perhaps *cue dramatic music*
Force of Seasick Sailors

Nah.. I think it just means Finger of Suspicion

Jarema

10-27-2010, 19:04

as to what FoS stands for, I'm pretty sure it means one of the following:

Fuel Oil Supply
Florida Orthopaedic Society
French Onion Soup
Financial Operations Supervisor
Friend of Sapi
Festival of Speed
or perhaps *cue dramatic music*

:laugh4:

and thanks for an answer

Yaropolk

10-27-2010, 20:12

Unvote; Vote:Diamondeye Tha bandwagon sir, she doesn't wannnae be stopped!

Seriously though - props to DE for the very helpful analysis of last night's actions. However it's stupid for a pro town to reveal he is lynch immune. If DE is sith, this will remove his immunity. If he's town, let's make an example to discourage reveals that only help the sith. And if he's lying we'll get to see the color of his guts.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 20:20

However it's stupid for a pro town to reveal he is lynch immune.

It is not good to be lynched without revealing it.

If DE is sith, this will remove his immunity.

How likely do you think that is, and would you want to lynch him again the next day?

If he's town, let's make an example to discourage reveals that only help the sith.

How about we make an example of those who are active and playing, as you say:

Seriously though - props to DE for the very helpful analysis of last night's actions.

By not lynching them for a bunch of bizarre, depersonalized "ifs".

Double A

10-27-2010, 20:39

Great write up ATPG, it was entertaining in so many ways. I will vote: Double A for now. I don't know if I believe the "oh, I didn't see this part, my bad!" thing. Seems too convenient.

Anyway because no one is counter claiming Sasaki's claim of Sith killing awesomeness everyone should go spill their guts to him so we can rap this up by day 3. Who knows, maybe he'll even discover which one of us is the muffin man.

Oh right. I'm playing mafia. The game where truths are taken as lies and lies are taken as truths.

I seriously thought that the Sith didn't know each other, but, I thought that it would be better to abandon my bad theory (as opposed to my past experiences, when I didn't, I got lynched) rather than to get lynched for saying something stupid.

I'm going to go ahead and agree with classical hero for saying this thread moves too fast. So until I read a bit more of it, vote: Abstain, just in case I don't read it fast enough.

Double A

10-27-2010, 20:51

vote: double A

fos: CW

Hopping on a bandwagon for no reason. And the fact that it's MY bandwagon doesn't get you any brownie points.

Anyway, I'm going to vote: classical hero. Very scummy post, although he did say something in it, it made it look even more scummy. Also, both CW and CH haven't shown up after their vote, so that isn't doing anything for them. Anything good, anyway.

Sprig

10-27-2010, 20:52

Question: How does one search a thread for post by a specific user? is it possible? my 3 attempts at using the forum search functions seemed to exclude the gameroom.

Edit: nevermind, I have found it. for future reference i clicked on the person name (opening their profile page) and clicked find all posts on the side bar, which has done the trick.

Double A

10-27-2010, 20:56

Yeah, you can also do it with advanced search.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 20:57

I'm going to go ahead and agree with classical hero for saying this thread moves too fast. So until I read a bit more of it, vote: Abstain, just in case I don't read it fast enough.

Anyway, I'm going to vote: classical hero. Very scummy post, although he did say something in it, it made it look even more scummy. Also, both CW and CH haven't shown up after their vote, so that isn't doing anything for them. Anything good, anyway.

Double A is scum. First he like CH's post then after seeing the wagon he decided to act like he thought it was scummy.

unvote, vote:double A

He could easily be bussing but it's better to play the probabilities.

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 20:58

Actually I think of the three leaders, Cute Wolf is the better lynch... One post this whole game and it's just to jump on a bandwagon? Sounds like someone is trying to lurk while avoiding a WoG to me

Edit: Didn't see Double A liking Classical Hero's post... if thats true I say lynch him first, its scummy even if he's trying to avoid getting lynched himself

Renata

10-27-2010, 21:00

I got a message from Winston Hughes that his computer died and he'll be away at least until the weekend as a result and will have to be replaced if he can't find a laptop to borrow. He wants me to let people know in the games he's in.

Sprig

10-27-2010, 21:03

Vote: Ignoramus his posts have rubbed me the wrong way.

You need to rub more gently.

TinCow

10-27-2010, 21:04

Nightbringer

10-27-2010, 21:04

vote:Yaropolk
because i dislike bandwagons and because his logic doesnt make sense. If voting him does indeed remove his lynch immunity it will probably not also reveal his alignment, meaning we will then be lyncing him tomorrow, which is more than needed for an example, or simply making him vulnerable to any sith out there. I agree that this reveal is suspicious, but i dont think it is lynch worthy suspicious.

Unvote; Vote:Diamondeye Tha bandwagon sir, she doesn't wannnae be stopped!

Seriously though - props to DE for the very helpful analysis of last night's actions. However it's stupid for a pro town to reveal he is lynch immune. If DE is sith, this will remove his immunity. If he's town, let's make an example to discourage reveals that only help the sith. And if he's lying we'll get to see the color of his guts.

Renata

10-27-2010, 21:06

Which posts? (@ sprig)

Sasaki if you keep changing your votes I'm going to have a really hard time following your lead. It might even get to the point where it's less hassle to start thinking for myself again.

unvote, vote Double A

Csargo

10-27-2010, 21:07

Ibn-Khaldun

10-27-2010, 21:11

So, I survived First Night? Good. That's more than I expected.

Vote: Double A

Double A

10-27-2010, 21:11

Double A is scum. First he like CH's post then after seeing the wagon he decided to act like he thought it was scummy.

unvote, vote:double A

He could easily be bussing but it's better to play the probabilities.

I don't like to make uninformed votes, Sasaki. Whenever I do that, I either a) end up voting for town or b) get lynched for it. I'm not bandwagoning, this is my opinion.

Also, if I live through this round, I need to say that there is a good chance of me not being here on Friday or Saturday, as I will be in Greensboro, NC, preforming a play with my theater class, and I'm not sure if the hotel will have Internet.

Sprig

10-27-2010, 21:14

Which posts? (@ sprig)

- No reason bandwagon vote on Ras - day 1

- a very early lurker hunt call - day 2

- nonsense post on how he doesn't know if sasaki Killed besker or not. - day 2

Sasaki if you keep changing your votes I'm going to have a really hard time following your lead. It might even get to the point where it's less hassle to start thinking for myself again.

Yeah some of these guys.... they can't stand still for more than 5 seconds.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 21:15

*magically kills double A, classical hero, and yaropolk all at once*

Secura

10-27-2010, 21:16

It might even get to the point where it's less hassle to start thinking for myself again.

You're more useful when you're thinking for yourself anyway.

Double A

10-27-2010, 21:17

*magically kills double A, classical hero, and yaropolk all at once*

*town magically loses for wasting at least one lynch*

Csargo

10-27-2010, 21:22

You're more useful when you're thinking for yourself anyway.

Nothing else to say?

Renata

10-27-2010, 21:26

- No reason bandwagon vote on Ras - day 2

- a very early lurker hunt call - day 2

- nonsense post on how he doesn't know if sasaki Killed besker or not. - day 2

Yeah some of these guys.... they can't stand still for more than 5 seconds.

TYTY. Day two lurker hunt, eh? That's not too shabby actually. Solid vote.

Renata

10-27-2010, 21:28

You're more useful when you're thinking for yourself anyway.

Thank you, you're too kind. It's not very likely to happen this week, though. Today is the only day I have free of visiting relatives until next Monday and my brain, she is not coping well.

Askthepizzaguy

10-27-2010, 21:30

Slysnake replaces Major Robert Dump.

Raskolnikov replaces TheFlax, as per his request.

Stuck in Pi may be replacing Winston Hughes due to the laptop difficulties, but I have to run it by him first.

Secura

10-27-2010, 21:33

Nothing else to say?

For the time being, I think that Diamondeye and Double A should be given the benefit of the doubt as a pair of actively-posting players; I think the votes against them would be better suited against classical_hero or Cute Wolf; both casted blatant bandwagon votes with no real explanation beyond "lulz, voting for double a cos everyone else is", and both aren't posting as much as they could be.

Thank you, you're too kind.

Credit where it's due; hopefully you'll have more time for the game sooner rather than later. :P

Secura

10-27-2010, 21:34

Raskolnikov replaces TheFlax, as per his request.

No! Flaxy told me he was considering this when he managed to get online last night, I had hoped he would change his mind. :<

I'm glad that Raskolnikov has returned to the game though.

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 21:44

Vote: Cute Wolf for reasons stated above and because I don't feel in the mood to jump on the bandwagon...

Double A

10-27-2010, 21:54

Vote: Cute Wolf for reasons stated above and because I don't feel in the mood to jump on the bandwagon...

But... there is a bandwagon on CW.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 21:55

Vote: Cute Wolf for reasons stated above and because I don't feel in the mood to jump on the bandwagon...

:mellow:

johnhughthom

10-27-2010, 21:55

Don't really have time to read everything as it's 24 hours since the last update so I assume the phase is nearly over (host request, could you put in 24 hours from now (or 48, whatever) in the write up as well as a time?).

Vote: Renata.

You're no use to us blindly following others, even Sasaki.

slysnake

10-27-2010, 21:55

Vote: Classical hero

Because I feel like it :)

Belisarius II

10-27-2010, 21:58

Vote: Sasaki

You've boasted to killing Beskar with the expectation for us to just believe you, and you've already tried to start two bandwagons on the same day.

I do believe, however, that Double A is acting scummy, and I'm tilting towards voting him instead.

Csargo

10-27-2010, 22:01

Vote: Classical hero

Because I feel like it :)

I think you should reconsider.

Unvote:, Vote: Yaro

His explanation for his vote on DE bothers me quite a bit.

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 22:04

But... there is a bandwagon on CW.There's like 2 other people voting for Cute Wolf... That could hardly be called a bandwagon, especially when compared to the bandwagon on you...@Sasaki for my reasons posted above

civplayah

10-27-2010, 22:11

I'm so sorry, ATPG! I completely forgot about this!

Can you replace me, I won't be able to give this game the attention it deserves?

ArpeggiateTHIS

10-27-2010, 22:11

Unvote; Vote: Seon

Still going down the whole "congratulating Sasaki" route as a scum-tell, but I think DE's legit for now.

Yaropolk

10-27-2010, 22:21

*magically kills double A, classical hero, and yaropolk all at once*

Forming vig group for Sasaki tonight!

Diamondeye

10-27-2010, 22:21

Vote: Classical hero

Because I feel like it :)

I had the impression you died..? Am I wrong?

unvote; vote: Double A

Also, Sasaki, you're fantastic. You have a way with words to absolutely crush the silly bandwagoners :tongue:

Yaropolk

10-27-2010, 22:23

So, you give DE props and say he's very helpful
then I sprinkle in a dash of logic

then add another vote to the bandwagon on him. Lynching DE is not a good idea imho.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 22:33

then I sprinkle in a dash of logic

logic which you never defended when asked about it.

Choxorn

10-27-2010, 22:41

Vote: Sasaki Just because I want to see if I die lololololollolololololololloolooollolololollolololololololololol.

Is there any real reason for this post, other than to be distracting and annoying?

FOS: ACIN

Vote: Cute Wolf for reasons stated above and because I don't feel in the mood to jump on the bandwagon...

FOS: ByzantineKnight

Also, FoS's to Cute Wolf, Yaropolk, and Double A, although Double A's random behavior is consistent with how he usually acts.

I had the impression you died..? Am I wrong?

He died, then replaced someone else.

Anyway, Vote: classical hero

Double A

10-27-2010, 22:45

There's like 2 other people voting for Cute Wolf... That could hardly be called a bandwagon, especially when compared to the bandwagon on you...@Sasaki for my reasons posted above

Three makes a bandwagon.

I had the impression you died..? Am I wrong?

unvote; vote: Double A

Also, Sasaki, you're fantastic. You have a way with words to absolutely crush the silly bandwagoners :tongue:

S-s-s-scumsplosion!

Voting for me because he's trying to save himself. I didn't want to vote for him without a reason, but he just gave me a great one. Unvote, vote: Dieyes.

Also, FoS's to Cute Wolf, Yaropolk, and Double A, although Double A's random behavior is consistent with how he usually acts.

Finally! I'm glad someone noticed!

Sasaki Kojiro

10-27-2010, 22:48

Voting for me because he's trying to save himself. I didn't want to vote for him without a reason, but he just gave me a great one. Unvote, vote: Dieyes.
:driver:

Double A

10-27-2010, 22:52

:driver:

Couldn't care less if I died, really. Not a required victory condition, and either way I still get to read the write-ups.

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 23:39

Three makes a bandwagon.

Bandwagoning: When you vote for someone purely because they have already received votes. Used by the mafia in Game II, but is now apt to get you executed. from the updated Mafia Glossary

I voted for my own reason which I posted here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053221101&viewfull=1#post2053221101). I did not jump on a bandwagon because I have a reason no one else stated (at least to my knowledge) for voting for Cute Wolf.

I just happen to be voting for someone that two other people are voting for

EDIT: This will be my last post for a while, I'm going to be away from reliable internet until Sunday afternoon however I may be able to get online while I am near school. So I won't be able to watch the thread like I have been (maybe an hour or two every other day)

You can lynch me if you feel I am scummy enough, I'm not an important role or anything and we appear to have a headstart on the mafia since [B]Sasaki's[B] N1 action so it shouldn't set us too far behind wasting a lynch. But I kinda wish you wouldn't kill me (if for no other reason than to improve my win/loss ratio :laugh4:)

Double A

10-27-2010, 23:41

"Third on the bandwagon."

ByzantineKnight

10-27-2010, 23:45

"Third on the bandwagon."

But not a bandwagoning vote, just third vote to be put there

Chaotix

10-27-2010, 23:52

from the updated Mafia Glossary

I voted for my own reason which I posted here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053221101&viewfull=1#post2053221101). I did not jump on a bandwagon because I have a reason no one else stated (at least to my knowledge) for voting for Cute Wolf.

I just happen to be voting for someone that two other people are voting for

EDIT: This will be my last post for a while, I'm going to be away from reliable internet until Sunday afternoon however I may be able to get online while I am near school. So I won't be able to watch the thread like I have been (maybe an hour or two every other day)

You can lynch me if you feel I am scummy enough, I'm not an important role or anything and we appear to have a headstart on the mafia since [B]Sasaki's[B] N1 action so it shouldn't set us too far behind wasting a lynch. But I kinda wish you wouldn't kill me (if for no other reason than to improve my win/loss ratio :laugh4:)

Even if you give a reason when jumping on a bandwagon, it still usually looks pretty contrived. If you're coming up with a reason to vote for someone instead of the other way around, it's still a bandwagon.

I'm content to leave my vote on Soup because I really don't see it affecting the state of this lynch.

Also, further back in the thread there was talk of how many Sith there might be. My best guess is that the Rule of Two is in place, which means the game started with two Sith, a Master and an Apprentice. However, it was not uncommon for the Sith Apprentices to have their own secret apprentices (e.g. Darth Vader), so I wouldn't be surprised if ATPG implemented some sort of system for that.

Sprig

10-28-2010, 00:00

Tally for Host and player reference – please double check for accuracy

8 Votes
Double A - (God Emperor, Frozen in Ice, Cute Wolf, Sasaki Kojiro, Tincow, Renata, Ibn-Khaldun, Diamondeye,)

5 Votes
Diamondeye - (Andres, pevergreen, Death is yonder, Yaropolk, Double A,)

3 Votes
Cute Wolf - (Secura, Skooma Addict, ByzantineKnight)

2 Votes
Yaropolk - (Nightbringer, Csargo,)
Sasaki Kojiro - (a completely inoffensive name, Belisarius II)
classical_hero - (Slysnake, choxorn)
Autolycus - (Psychonaut, Beefy187)

1 Vote
Beefy187 - (Autolycus)
Andres - (Jarema)
dcmort93 - (Joooray)
Frozen in Ice - (Yaseikhaan)
Ignoramus - (Sprig)
Joooray - (Rebel Jeb)
Slysnake - (Seon)
pevergreen - (AntiKingWarmancake)
Renata - (Johnhughthom)
Seon - (ArpeggiateTHIS,)
Soup567 - (Chaotix)

Not Voting
Captain Blackadder
civplayah
Diana Abnoba
Greyblades
Kagemusha
Khazaar
landlubber
Link
Nicte
remake20
Robbiecon
Romanic
Raskolnikov
Winston Hughes
Zack
classical_hero
dcmort93
Ignoramus
Soup567

Not voted twice
Cecil XIX
Cultured Drizzt fan
Ironside
Jolt
Niklas
Sigurd
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Wideyedwanderer
YLC – (computer problems?)

dcmort93

10-28-2010, 00:10

Ok then I shall Vote for the new Raskolnikov

robbiecon

10-28-2010, 00:32

*reads thread, scratches head* "who shall I vote for to be dead?"

Will it be Double A or diamondeye, but what quarrel do I have with these people I sigh.
None as far as I can tell.
With a toss of a coin and a ring of a bell, it's Double A whose life I shall sell.

And for people who decide they want to analyse this post, it's called poetic licence, I was trying to make a rhyming post.

Ignoramus

10-28-2010, 00:39

Seon

10-28-2010, 00:43

My scumdar on Ignoramus is now off the chart, but would scum be so scummy?

Sprig

10-28-2010, 00:47

My scumdar on Ignoramus is now off the chart, but would scum be so scummy?

Could be because they have been pointed out as scummy so tried to act even more scummy in order to throw you off the scent.

Joooray

10-28-2010, 00:48

robbiecon

10-28-2010, 00:52

That's the wrong format to vote. :wink:
Over here people tend to bold any name in their posts, so you'd have to make your vote clear.

Vote:Double A

you're happy now I hope Joooray.

Joooray

10-28-2010, 01:10

Vote:Double A

you're happy now I hope Joooray.

Hey, not trying to be picky here, just making sure your vote counts.

Choxorn

10-28-2010, 01:17

Ok then I shall Vote for the new Raskolnikov

Why, may I ask? And why aren't you putting this in the proper vote format?

Hey, sprig, there's both me and Slysnake as voting for C_H in the tally, but you only have that listed as one vote. ~;)

Seon

10-28-2010, 01:19

Ok then I shall Vote for the new Raskolnikov

He's kind of dead.

Sprig

10-28-2010, 01:32

He's kind of dead.

He is kinda alive again. reincarnated as a new Jedi (or Sith)

Sasaki Kojiro

10-28-2010, 01:34

Hey, not trying to be picky here, just making sure your vote counts.

You want to make sure his vote counts, but you have your lone vote sitting on dcmort and aren't voting any of the top candidates? fos:joooray

Sounds like you are content just to let someone be lynched*

*yah yah, this accusation only works if AA isn't sith...but we don't rely heavily on things like that at this point and that's why it's an fos.

Zack

10-28-2010, 01:50

Agh! Stuck at the bottom of Mount Post without any climbing gear. :(

Vote: robbiecon
Two can play at this game. Vote: Ignoramus

seireikhaan

10-28-2010, 01:50

Sasaki is most wise. unvote: FiI, Vote: Double A

pevergreen

10-28-2010, 02:04

Whole lot of nothing going on, but plently of ammo for later rounds.

Greyblades

10-28-2010, 02:17

Ugh this is what I hate about huge games; a post rate of 2 pages a day. Sprig you should probably check your list, Autolycus is in the 1 vote group even though two people voted for him.

Joooray

10-28-2010, 02:21

You want to make sure his vote counts, but you have your lone vote sitting on dcmort and aren't voting any of the top candidates? fos:joooray

Sounds like you are content just to let someone be lynched*

*yah yah, this accusation only works if AA isn't sith...but we don't rely heavily on things like that at this point and that's why it's an fos.

Well, he clearly intended on voting AA, so that's why I pointed him to it. What I think of the case on AA doesn't have anything to do with it.

Double A

10-28-2010, 02:30

I realize that this will not reduce any of the votes on me, and if anything, gain nought but more, but you guys are lynching a townie, even if I am just an initiate.

So when I die... just remember, I get to say "I told ya so."

pevergreen

10-28-2010, 03:01

Sure Double A. Or should I say Double Sith.

Seon

10-28-2010, 03:02

Maybe he'll reveal that he actually snuck a thermal detonator into the ship...

Nightbringer

10-28-2010, 03:17

Maybe he'll reveal that he actually snuck a thermal detonator into the ship...

Oh no! *runs and hides behind a bulkhead.*
Can someone please post a summery of why AA needs to go. I have to admit I missed a lot of pages of reading and can't find what it is that makes him so scummy.
Thanks
until then, ill stick with my current vote, but maybe you can convince me to switch (bribing may now begin XD)

Seon

10-28-2010, 03:24

Demanding bribe indicates greed in your heart. Greed inside your heart means darkness exists there too. This is a sign of the Dark Side.

So, Mr. Conveniently Named Bringer Of Night, are you Sith?

Sprig

10-28-2010, 03:43

pevergreen

10-28-2010, 03:49

Every townie gets to say 'I told you so' now can you go die quietly like a good townie?

Why are you so eager for him to die?

Sprig

10-28-2010, 04:18

Why are you so eager for him to die?

What makes you think I am eager?

As an aside, what I do know is that Double A is a disruptive player, innocent or guilty. I am not fussed if he is the one to bite the bullet.

Askthepizzaguy

10-28-2010, 06:43

TinCow

10-28-2010, 13:35

the player in question was lynched

Who is the player in question? No one's kept a tally.

Askthepizzaguy

10-28-2010, 14:19

Who is the player in question? No one's kept a tally.

I'll be figuring that out right now. I needed 8 hours rest before tackling this big boy.

Posting in my closed thread, I see. Naughty naughty Tincow. But I forgive you because you're so shiny.

Askthepizzaguy

10-28-2010, 14:54

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Night ends at 11:59:59 PM Friday, October 29th, Eastern Time USA

11 Votes

Double A - (God Emperor, classical_hero, Frozen in Ice, Cute Wolf, Sasaki Kojiro, Tincow, Renata, Ibn-Khaldun, Diamondeye, robbiecon, Yaseikhaan)

5 Votes

Diamondeye - (Andres, pevergreen, Death is yonder, Yaropolk, Double A)

3 Votes

Cute Wolf - (Secura, Skooma Addict, ByzantineKnight)

2 Votes

Yaropolk - (Nightbringer, Csargo,)
Sasaki Kojiro - (a completely inoffensive name, Belisarius II)
classical_hero - (Slysnake, choxorn)
Autolycus - (Psychonaut, Beefy187)
Ignoramus - (Sprig, Zack)

1 Vote

Beefy187 - (Autolycus)
Andres - (Jarema)
dcmort93 - (Joooray)
Joooray - (Rebel Jeb)
Slysnake - (Seon)
pevergreen - (AntiKingWarmancake)
Renata - (Johnhughthom)
Seon - (ArpeggiateTHIS,)
Soup567 - (Chaotix)
Robbiecon (Ignoramus)

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Nomi Sunrider gathered everyone together, back at the hangar bay.

"Have we reached a verdict?" Nomi asked.

The Jedi took a vote, and it turned out that they had reached a conclusion.

"Yes we have, Grandmaster." said the ranking Jedi Master.

"Who did your feelings tell you was guilty?" Nomi said.

"Mun Farlander, your grace."

"Very well. Let the accused have a chance to defend themselves." Nomi said, and motioned for the suspect to plead their case.

Mun Farlander: I am not a Sith, your grace, but I accept the council's decision. This is the only way we can find the Sith, so I will bow to your judgment.

Nomi Sunrider: Do you have anything else to say in your defense?

Mun Farlander: Anything I say could be a Sith lie. My defense is unimportant. You must do what you must.

Nomi motioned for her to go into the hangar bay, and then sealed it off. Mun Farlander began to meditate in the middle of the hangar bay, ready for what was about to come. At the last moment, she turned to Nomi Sunrider and smiled, as if reassuring her that it was okay. Nomi switched off the hangar bay force field, and the hangar decompressed, blowing Mun Farlander out into space. She died very quickly and without a fuss.

Nomi needed to make certain, and so she locked onto Mun's body with a tractor beam and brought her back into the hangar bay. Medical droids examined her and found that she was indeed dead. Nomi felt a tremor in the Light Side of the Force, and was greatly displeased. She returned to her quarters to train more Jedi, and ordered everyone else to begin their night watch shifts, or to get to sleep.

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Double A- Mun Farlander

Double A was a Jedi Initiate!

He was Jedi!

Alive: (62/67)

a completely inoffensive name
Andres
AntiKingWarmancake
ArpeggiateTHIS
Autolycus
Beefy187
Belisarius II
ByzantineKnight
Captain Blackadder
Cecil XIX
Chaotix
choxorn
civplayah
classical_hero
Csargo
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
dcmort93
Death is yonder
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ibn-Khaldun
Ignoramus
Ironside
Jarema
Johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
Kagemusha
Khazaar
landlubber
Link
Major Robert Dump Replaced by Slysnake2
Nictel
Nightbringer
Niklas
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Rebel Jeb
remake20
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Sasaki Kojiro
Secura
Seon
Sigurd
Skooma Addict
Soup567
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Sprig
TheFlax Replaced by Raskolnikov2
Tincow
wideyedwanderer
Winston Hughes
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Zack

Dead: (5/67)

Raskolnikov- Jedi Initiate Mas Amdu Kof (Killed Day One)
Slysnake- Jedi Initiate Kerren Cae (Killed Night One)
Stuck in Pi- Jedi Initiate Si-At Unesh (Killed Night One)
Beskar- Jedi Initiate Jax Revus - Sith Apprentice Darth Fermanagh (Killed Night One)
Double A- Jedi Initiate Mun Farlander (Killed Day Two)

Night phase continues.

TinCow

10-28-2010, 15:00

Posting in my closed thread, I see. Naughty naughty Tincow. But I forgive you because you're so shiny.

Sorry about that, I didn't even notice that it was locked and it never occurred to me to check. The only visible difference for Mods is a little Closed notice in the very bottom left of the thread, which doesn't help when replying via the buttons on individual posts. I will make sure to look before I post in the future. (Yes, I am aware it is still locked, but felt I needed to explain myself under the circumstances.)

Askthepizzaguy

10-28-2010, 15:01

Sorry about that, I didn't even notice that it was locked and it never occurred to me to check. I will make sure to look before I post in the future. (Yes, I am aware it is still locked, but felt I needed to explain myself under the circumstances.)

It's okay, no harm done.

I decided that this game was huge enough and there were enough spam posts as it is. I already have players dropping out because they can't keep up, so from now until further notice night phases will be a breather zone where folks can actually catch up on the thread if they are still behind.

Sigurd

10-28-2010, 15:07

Apologies, night has been very hard on me, and I won't be able to do a lynch writeup right now. Check back in 12 hours.

In the meantime it is night phase and the player in question was lynched; send in night actions now.
ARGH!!! just too late.

No time to play these last two days, but I would have voted Sasaki.
He might claim to have killed the Sith, but I believe he is lying. And before you think you have ferreted out the killer of your partner, Sasaki, you haven't :beam:

Edit: oops.. sorry about posting in da locked thread (see TinCow's reply for reference)

Askthepizzaguy

10-29-2010, 18:42

No chance of this round ending early, for those who are wondering. I don't have all orders and I'll be too busy to knock it out quickly when I do.

Stay tuned though, round ends at midnight regardless.

Askthepizzaguy

10-30-2010, 02:48

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Day ends at 11:59:59 PM Saturday, October 30th, Eastern Time USA

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Yogal Sec-barr relieved a Jedi from his watch post. He had slept for 6 hours, which was plenty for his species. He took up a position overlooking one of the main reactors of the Star Destroyer, deep in the Engineering section. It seemed strangely quiet in there, even with the low hum of the reactor filling the air with white noise. Yogal could almost hear someone approaching, but he looked around and decided it must have been his imagination.

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From the shadows behind him, a figure slowly stepped into the light. The figure raised its hands and they started to glow. Sec-barr heard the sound of soft footfalls behind him, and turned around just in time to see a bright flash of light. The force of the blow knocked his body into the guard railing and caused him to drop his walking stick. The electric current ripped through his body, filling him with terrible, horrible pain. Reacting instinctively, Yogal reached out with the force and shielded his body from the pain, and moved out of the way just in time to avoid a second blast of lightning.

However, the current ran through the metal scaffolding and ricocheted off of the structural supports and bulkheads, blowing out computer consoles and blowing out the overhead lighting. Energy poured through the fingertips of Yogal's attacker, and the lightning began to chain through several conducting objects, and re-direct back into the body of Yogal. The sentient's flesh began to burn and his outer shell began to melt, and he threw himself over the railing to prevent death. His attacker jumped over the railing and landed right next to him, as he lay on the floor gasping for breath. The attacker lifted him up and threw him against the wall, and Yogal got a good look at his attacker.

Yogal: "You.... but why? Why would you do this to me?"

His attacker said nothing, only looked at Yogal with a determined scowl, and began to fire lightning at Yogal again, penetrating the creature's force defenses. Yogal could take no more of this, and screamed in pain, rushing at his attacker, trying to tackle the figure. But the figure just stepped aside and fired another blast, ricocheting it off of the walls, the floor, and even the reactor itself. Yogal's body slammed into the reactor and burst into flames as he let out one final scream for mercy. But none was forthcoming. The body of Yogal lay smoldering next to the reactor, and the automatic fire suppressant system switched on, surrounding Yogal's body with an energy field, and the oxygen inside the field was quickly consumed and the fire went out by itself.

The figure walked away, back toward the darkness.

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Jacin Sky returned from his business elsewhere on the ship, and took up a position guarding the entrance to one of the shuttle bays. He centered himself and reached out with the Force, and could sense danger approaching. He knew he was about to be attacked, so he drew his lightsaber and prepared for battle. He checked left, down one corridor, and checked right, down the other, and down the center corridor. He even looked up, thinking the attack might come from above, then he sensed danger behind him.

The shuttle bay doors slid open, and a figure was standing behind him with both hands raised, and made a motion as if choking Sky from a distance. His senses and his lightsaber were not enough to help him, and he dropped his weapon and staggered forward, unable to even turn around and face his attacker. He struggled to breathe, or even move, and could only crawl down the corridor as his face began to turn blue.

The figure groaned and clenched its hands even tighter together, and Jacin Sky felt as if his entire body was being crushed by a garbage smasher. He could feel the bones in his chest begin to weaken, as his esophagus closed up and his lungs started to collapse. With his last bit of consciousness, Jacin Sky struggled to concentrate and reach out with the Force, to protect his body from the wounds. The figure in the shuttle bay roared with contempt and continued crushing Jacin Sky, teeth clenched, trying desperately to end Jacin's life. With the Force releasing Jacin from the immediate pain, and supporting his chest just enough to allow him to breathe, Jacin Sky grabbed his lightsaber and ran down the hall, to the turbolift, to escape from the powerful attacker.

The figure in the shuttlebay roared with frustration, and motioned with its hands toward the ceiling, and the shuttles in the bay were lifted up as one and crashed against the the top of the bay, crushing them under the stress. Then the figure slammed its hands down to the deck, denting the duranium plating. The shuttles flew towards the front of the shuttlebay, and the entire star destroyer rocked from the resulting chain reaction of explosions, as their engine reactors were crushed. In the nightmarish inferno, the being that attacked Jacin Sky walked slowly toward the opposite turbolift, unharmed and unhindered by the burning atmosphere and swirling wreckage.

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Nomi Sunrider - Grandmaster of the Jedi Order

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Nomi Sunrider called the next meeting of the Jedi Council to order, and recounted the events of the previous night, as recorded in the Security Holograms.

"As you can see, there were more attacks on us last night. We do not know the identities of these two mysterious attackers, but one of our shuttle bays has been utterly destroyed and an entire deck has been flooded with radiation and burning fuel. The ship's safety systems have contained the damage, but it is clear that whatever is on board this ship could destroy us all at any moment, but is choosing to target us individually. It would be rather simple for any reasonably skilled Jedi to simply cause the ship's reactors to explode, and I am sure the Sith have that capability. I had actually been expecting such an attack, and that is why I hold my training sessions near the Engineering section so that I can monitor the integrity of the reactor cores and shield them with my thoughts. But our saboteurs and murderers aboard have not chosen that tactic. Unfortunately I was not able to intervene in the attack on Yogal Sec-barr in time, as the attacker had already left. There's nothing that can be done, his body is burned from the inside. It is beyond my healing abilities.

Last night, as with the night before, Jacin Sky was the target of an attack, and this time he just barely managed to escape with his life. We are glad to have you with us again, Sky."

Jacin Sky nodded at Sunrider. She continued.

"I sense a disturbance in the Force. There is something wrong here, terribly wrong. My powers only allow me to see so much, but I fear that in spite of our progress in removing one of the Sith, the Dark Side is only growing more powerful, much more rapidly than our defenses will be able to compensate for. We must continue our training, and keep our faith in the Light Side of the Force.

I had the same vision as before, clearer than before. There will be an attack on many of our Jedi Initiates, and I will do what I must to stop them from dying. That is why I will not be able to avoid my death, because it is better for me to die than for half of us to die. That is the path I walk, and there are no turns."

The Jedi murmur at this news.

"It is the will of the Force. But know this.... it is not a defeat. It is a triumph of the Light Side of the Force, that the Sith cannot face me directly, and must resort to this kind of attack. It proves that we are still much stronger than they are. When I am dead, more will take my place. You must not lose your faith. You must feel the Force around you.... even on the sterile conditions of this ship, we are many dozen sentient life-forms, possessing a powerful connection to the Force and each other. The planet we are orbiting is filled with many billion sentient life-forms and trillions upon trillions of other life-forms. This is one of the brightest places in the galaxy, teeming with life. For the Dark Side to defeat us here, much more powerful they must become. Cause fear, pain, and anger to flow within us, they must. To turn against each other, that is what they wish for us.

Do not waver. Find the remaining Sith, and bring them before me."

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Zack- Yogal Sec-barr

Zack was a Jedi Initiate!

He was Jedi!

Alive: (61/67)

a completely inoffensive name
Andres
AntiKingWarmancake
ArpeggiateTHIS
Autolycus
Beefy187
Belisarius II
ByzantineKnight
Captain Blackadder
Cecil XIX
Chaotix
choxorn
civplayah
classical_hero
Csargo
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
dcmort93
Death is yonder
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ibn-Khaldun
Ignoramus
Ironside
Jarema
Johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
Kagemusha
Khazaar
landlubber
Link
Major Robert Dump Replaced by Slysnake2
Nictel
Nightbringer
Niklas
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Rebel Jeb
remake20
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Sasaki Kojiro
Secura
Seon
Sigurd
Skooma Addict
Soup567 Replaced by Stuck in Pi2
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Sprig
TheFlax Replaced by Raskolnikov2
Tincow
wideyedwanderer
Winston Hughes
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC

Dead: (6/67)

Raskolnikov- Jedi Initiate Mas Amdu Kof (Killed Day One)
Slysnake- Jedi Initiate Kerren Cae (Killed Night One)
Stuck in Pi- Jedi Initiate Si-At Unesh (Killed Night One)
Beskar- Jedi Initiate Jax Revus - Sith Apprentice Darth Fermanagh (Killed Night One)
Double A- Jedi Initiate Mun Farlander (Killed Day Two)
Zack- Jedi Initiate Yogal Sec-barr (Killed Night Two)

Thread re-opened. Day Phase begins early. Night results will take some time, but I am starting to send them out now. Hopefully will be done by midnight.

Stuck in Pi2 replaces soup567

Day ends at 11:59:59 PM Saturday, October 30th, Eastern Time USA

Beskar

10-30-2010, 03:24

LOL at me being dead before I even opened the thread. :thumbsup:

Thanks for the role anyway Pizza, even though I died before I saw it. :bow:

Zack

10-30-2010, 03:46

I feel honored to be considered important enough to get nightkilled so early. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/images/smilies/misc/ht_bow.gif

Askthepizzaguy

10-30-2010, 03:48

Players are dropping like flies. But very shortly I will have to stop replacing people.

You and Double A may be the last people I consider replacement players, Zack. After Day Three, no more replacements (I hope). I'll try to avoid it at all costs.

Zack

10-30-2010, 03:49

I'd be more than happy to replace someone.

Seon

10-30-2010, 04:01

It is time again...for the Roullette of Doom! *takes out pencil and spins it*

...and the lucky number is...10! Vote: Cecil XIX

All jokes aside, Sigurd, could you explain your suspiscion on Sasaki in clearer detail, please?

Askthepizzaguy

10-30-2010, 04:12

Everyone who used an active ability or visited the Holocron will have gotten quick results by now. I will work on the amendments to your Role PMs, but you now have all relevant information.

If you used an active ability and didn't get a result, contact me privately.

If you didn't get an update to your abilities, that means you didn't visit the Holocron.

Romanic

10-30-2010, 04:14

Hello!! :grin3:

I haven't been active so far in this game, being distracted by other games, but I'm here now and will look back at the thread to figure what happened.

Askthepizzaguy

10-30-2010, 04:22

Hello!! :grin3:

I haven't been active so far in this game, being distracted by other games, but I'm here now and will look back at the thread to figure what happened.

A Sith died, several Jedi died, and I have been standing around with my shiny, silky blond hair rolling down my awesome body as the overhead lighting shimmers off of me.

You know, the usual.

pevergreen

10-30-2010, 04:44

Stop attacking me already, darn sith people.

Can't you see I am powerful enough to resist?

Choxorn

10-30-2010, 05:21

Well, someone wants you dead very badly, that much is clear.

Chaotix

10-30-2010, 05:40

Hrmm... probably a good idea to protect pevergreen, if he's going to keep being attacked.

Vote: Ironside

Has he posted?

I'm going to change this later most likely, but I want to get a vote down early in case I'm busy later.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-30-2010, 05:44

hmm well, tonight I will flip a coin. Heads I self protect again, tails I protect pever.

Choxorn

10-30-2010, 06:03

Nightbringer

10-30-2010, 06:04

well, im going to absically be gone for the next two days so im going to put down a vote now, even though i dont really have any leads. I'm going to put down vote:diana abnoba because she is usually pretty active but seems to have been very quiet this game.

dcmort93

10-30-2010, 06:08

wideyed has no internet

pevergreen

10-30-2010, 06:13

hmm well, tonight I will flip a coin. Heads I self protect again, tails I protect pever.

Vote: sasaki

Better come out in my favour :laugh4:

Csargo

10-30-2010, 06:43

Vote:Yaropolk

Sasaki Kojiro

10-30-2010, 06:50

oh yes.

vote:yaropolk

I forget who the other person was. classical something?

Askthepizzaguy

10-30-2010, 06:58

All updated role PMs are out. Gee, this whole process only took me from 9PM when I began the writeup until 2AM when I finished the role PM updates.

:balloon: :balloon2: :balloon3: CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES, COME ON!!! :balloon: :balloon2: :balloon3:

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naut

10-30-2010, 07:39

Vote: Ironside

Has he posted?
No. But you have.

Vote: Chaotix

Cute Wolf

10-30-2010, 07:46

Vote: Diamondeye

He was the fastest to blame anyone who doing a simple lazy bandwagon. I wonder what is his motivation... :laugh4:

Choxorn

10-30-2010, 08:08

Kagemusha

10-30-2010, 08:14

Vote: Sigurd Can you clarify what was your post concerning Sasaki about?

Romanic

10-30-2010, 08:31

vote: acin

Because of this.

Vote: Raskolnikov Because you voted for me and that is how I roll.
This.

Obviously you didn't read the rules. I can only vote for one person at a time. See I know you are new at this but please pay better attention then this. Also, I love blue milk so yes I would like some. I haven't been to the store recently so I am running low on dairy. Cheese is too damn expensive for a college kid.
This.

That is how you're supposed to respond. I am a funny guy.
And this.

Vote: Sasaki Just because I want to see if I die lololololollolololololololloolooollolololollolololololololololol.

In a nutshell, worse votes and behavior I've seen so far.

pevergreen

10-30-2010, 08:32

In a nutshell, worse votes and behavior I've seen so far.

Clearly you've never played with ACIN. :laugh4:

Choxorn

10-30-2010, 08:34

ULC

10-30-2010, 08:39

Odd - if the Sith really wanted pever dead, why not attack him together? Are they barred from doubling up for a night kill? I am happy pever is alive, but the fact he isn't dead is intriguing.

Going to look at tallies for now to make a more informed vote.

Romanic

10-30-2010, 08:45

Clearly you've never played with ACIN. :laugh4:
Oh, I did. :smug2:

If he insist on being weird and useless, I'll gladly test my theory that he's a Sith, and acting like his normal self to hide his true identity.

pevergreen

10-30-2010, 08:52

Yeah, something is wrong with that. I'm starting to think he's just trying to die.

In any case, he's even worse than the people who are doing nothing by being distracting and intentionally trying to be annoying.

Vote: ACIN

Oh, I did. :smug2:

If he insist on being weird and useless, I'll gladly test my theory that he's a Sith, and acting like his normal self to hide his true identity.
Its his playstyle. :shrug:

Odd - if the Sith really wanted pever dead, why not attack him together? Are they barred from doubling up for a night kill? I am happy pever is alive, but the fact he isn't dead is intriguing.

Going to look at tallies for now to make a more informed vote.

I'm not sure. Maybe they don't know each other. Regardless, they'd be better off targeting someone else from now on.

Sigurd

10-30-2010, 09:00

Vote: Sigurd Can you clarify what was your post concerning Sasaki about?
I don't believe his claims. The fact that he ignores me strengthens this suspicion. Call it a major gut feeling. Sasaki would never claim this early, unless he is guilty as sin.
vote: Sasaki

Romanic

10-30-2010, 09:10

ULC

10-30-2010, 09:14

Is it a good idea to create ties on purpose and let two players battle for the outcome?

On one side I've read that it could be one way to prevent lynching a powerful pro-town role, but on the other side the Sith would probably win such a fight. What does experience from the previous game say about that?

I already gave my opinion on this after the first day - it's ONLY advantageous for the Sith, the town receives no benefit.

As for my vote - Vote: Yaseikhaan. Voted for both those lynched, and late to both.

pevergreen

10-30-2010, 09:24

On one side I've read that it could be one way to prevent lynching a powerful pro-town role, but on the other side the Sith would probably win such a fight. What does experience from the previous game say about that?

I don't remember that from the last game.