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Ignoramus

11-19-2010, 04:35

Hm... a duel? Maybe. I'd prefer just sending Ignoramus out an airlock, though.

My form so far hasn't been that great, so perhaps you'll get your wish(only difference being me in pieces).

Chaotix

11-19-2010, 04:44

A duel... this could be anybody's game.

Both are Masters. Neither will use Alter Damage. Joooray does not have access to his Force Lightning, since it is an active ability, not a defense- unless I am mistaken on the structure of duels.

This is not an entirely bad idea. Either way, though, we are losing a Jedi Master. I hope it's the fallen one that goes.

Cecil XIX

11-19-2010, 04:59

vote: wideyedwanderer. Between the three, he has the worst defense.

wideyedwanderer

11-19-2010, 05:15

Again I'd request a vote count.

Also,

unvote, vote: Wideyedwanderer

I'm not really feeling it on Ignoramus anymore -- if that last post of his was fake, it hit me right in my soft spot. Joooray, I still could be persuaded. There *are* arguments there, and I'm not sure to what extent my knee-jerk defense of the righteousness of vigilantes might be blinding me. It's not enough for me to vote him today, though.

Nightbringer had a very good observation about WEW, that, after apparently ignoring the game completely for a week or more, he turned up not an hour after someone finally voted him, with a comment that indicated he had been paying at least some attention to what was going on (or wanted to appear as if he were doing so). That's scummy. At least as much so, IMO, as killing WOG-bait for possibly dubious reasons.

After WEW, I am also suspicious of Blackadder (that vote rationale was so obviously fake) and Diana Abnoba ahead of Joooray.

Your reasoning here is poor. If I were mafia I'd have been stupid to have ignored the game for so long before turning up out of nowhere. I was unaware that the game began, so I missed the first 2 days. Then, I had an unfortunate habit of missing the day phases, and was unable to post during the night since posting was locked. I have been focusing more on TWC, so I haven't been checking .org too much. I showed up after ATPG posted the most recent writeup, but I didn't know what was going on, hence the reason why I didn't vote immediately. You must be running low on targets right now, Renata, since you usually have stronger reasons for going after someone.

I was not aware a mechanism like this could be included in this game, but have not experienced any effects in that matter. But I do agree that this is something that should be considered in the future. As I said, I will refrain from killing from this point on, and the suggested effect vig kills might have, strengthens me in that decision.

As mentioned before, I also found wideeye's post rather curious and so I'll follow this and Vote: Wideyedwanderer.

You "found it curious" because I voted for you. This is blatantly an OMGUS vote.

vote: wideyedwanderer. Between the three, he has the worst defense.

I'm not sure what you mean by defense? If you're talking about jedi skills, I would surely lose any battle.

You guys can lynch me if you want. It'll make it easier for me, and I can go back to my hideaway at twc. You'll be lynching a somewhat-unuseful padawan, but at least one of your "scummy candidates" will be off the list.

I'll let you know right now, though, that you'll have to lynch me twice, since I do have that ability that lets me escape one lynch. So if you really want to get rid of me you should save your votes and just vig me.

Csargo

11-19-2010, 05:18

Vote:Link

Askthepizzaguy

11-19-2010, 06:01

Askthepizzaguy

11-19-2010, 07:29

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Sol Jade noted that time had expired, and asked for a vote.

"Have we reached a verdict?" Jade asked.

The Jedi took a vote, and it turned out that they were undecided, having narrowed it down to two potential candidates. The Jedi were pretty sure that at least one of the two had to be a Sith, as the two candidates together had managed to grab half of all possible votes.

"No we have not, Grandmaster." said Ronen Durdon.

"Who are the leading candidates?" Jade asked.

"Myself, and Master An-Wan Dyas."

"Very well. Let the accused have a chance to defend themselves." Sol Jade said.

Ronen Durdon: "As you can clearly see from the security holograms, I was busy hunting down the Sith last night. It could not possibly have been me. I can prove I am not a Sith! I resent the fact that I am even being accused..."

An-Wan Dyas: "As you can clearly see from the security holograms, I was defeated in lightsaber combat on the eighth night by my attacker. I could have been killed, and yet, I did not show myself to be a Sith. I had no red lightsaber, and I also did not try to kill the one who defeated me! There's no way that I am a Sith. I do not understand why I am even being accused..."

Ronen Durdon: "The evidence proving my innocence is much stronger. I will not allow myself to be destroyed foolishly. This is pointless!"

An-Wan Dyas: "Your evidence doesn't prove that you're innocent, it proves that YOU killed a Jedi! We should go with what we know, which is that you are a killer among us. I'll defeat you in combat and prove that you're a Sith!"

Ronen Durdon: "I am no Sith, and I do not believe that you are either. This decision to force us into a duel is a mistake. I'm not going to accuse you out of spite, Dyas."

An-Wan Dyas: "You can't play innocent with me, you've already admitted to your crimes. Now face me in battle!"

Ronen Durdon: "For the last time, I was trying to remove the Sith myself, nothing different from what you're about to try to do, An-Wan. Moreover, it's nothing different from what we all have done every single day, which is to try, and fail, to remove a Sith from our midst using what is essentially vigilante justice. You all are accusing me of doing what each and every one of you has done, and it makes no sense! We are beings of reason, conscience, and righteousness.... I cannot believe that you would all allow this hunt to cloud your judgment so. Judge me as evil at your own peril, for I have done nothing different from what you have done yourself."

Sol Jade: "Enough! You've both been judged as suspicious by the Council. You are to face each other in battle to determine which of you dies. May the Force forgive us."

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Lightsaber Battle: Ignoramus versus Joooray

Ronen Durdon entered the hangar bay from one side, and An-Wan Dyas entered from the other. The two combatants bowed to each other, and nodded in the direction of Sol Jade. Ronen Durdon knelt down and began to meditate, while An-Wan Dyas ignited her blue lightsaber and stood in a standard Makashi-style form. She stood at the ready, and began channeling the Force through her body in preparation for the battle.

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Suddenly, Ronen Durdon stood up, his meditation complete, his mind focused. He ignited his blue lightsaber, and stood in a classic Soresu-style pose, and prepared to defend himself. An-Wan Dyas shielded herself with a bubble of the Force, which could easily deflect any possible projectiles. The two combatants advanced on one another.

Their sabers clashed, and they met each other blow for blow. An-Wan's movements were in the style of a true fencing master, with precise, accurate strikes, timely parries, and forceful, flowing slashes. Ronen's movements were short and less flowing, keeping a tight defense around his body, not allowing anything to get through. He was indeed powerful and strong, and he was undeterred by An-Wan's graceful attacks.

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An-Wan stepped up her game, and continued with the Makashi style, utilizing her advanced training to press onward. Ronen, too, reached deep into his most advanced training to deflect all of her attacks. They both gained and gave ground, demonstrating nearly equal mastery of the saber. Ronen, however, seemed to have a slight edge, as he was able to control the course of battle masterfully. Soon it was An-Wan herself who was on the defensive, and began to give ground.

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Ronen pressed the attack, and unleashed a powerful burst of Light in an attempt to weaken An-Wan. This tactic did not even faze An-Wan Dyas, and she used the moment of failure to reach deep into the Force herself, unleashing a greater connection. Her speed doubled, and then tripled, and her movements became nearly impossible to see with the naked eye.

Ronen was forced backwards, deflecting all of the powerful, blinding slashes with his short, quick movements. His deep concentration allowed him to keep up with Dyas, who seemed to be glowing with power, her blue blade shimmering. He was powerful enough to hold back the stronger, faster Dyas, by expending as little energy as possible on unnecessary movements. The two combatants fought with incredible valor, neither relenting, neither weakening.

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Dyas reached even deeper into the Force, and reached down to the last of her training, and began to deliver acrobatic, graceful strikes from unexpected angles, demonstrating great innovation and creativity, trying to break down Ronen's defenses. She used the Makashi style in a less linear manner than she had been trained to do, and began to sidestep, roll, and jump to get around Soresu's tight frontal defense. Ronen had not seen such moves demonstrated with Makashi before, and was also forced to improvise.

Reaching as deeply into the Force as he could, he unleashed a blast of power; a wave of the force that sent An-Wan Dyas flying across the hangar bay. She landed against the far wall, where she had already turned around and braced herself, and used her powerful leg muscles to springboard off of the surface and land on the deck plating below, unharmed.

Ronen Durdon tried the move again, and reached deep into the Force, unleashing another wave which threw An-Wan across the hangar bay at the opposite wall, where she struck hard and was knocked to the floor, where she rolled to her feet, undeterred. He tried again, knocking An-Wan against the ceiling, and back against the floor, and back against the ceiling, trying to knock his opponent out. An-Wan simply reached deeper into the Force and strengthened her protective shield, which caused her to bounce harmlessly off of both surfaces.

Frustrated, Ronen Durdon released Dyas from his hold, and charged toward An-Wan, determined to strike her down. He unleashed a torrent of powerful Soresu strikes, quick and deliberate, trying to break her. But An-Wan's speed and strength caused her to be able to deflect all of these attacks. Ronen continued to advance, pounding An-Wan with a flurry of precise strikes, as An-Wan parried them. She was backed into the wall, which she propelled herself off of and over the head of Durdon, as he tried to cut her down in midair. She gracefully deflected the swing, and landed on her feet, and tried to break Ronen's defenses again. Her counterattack was enough that Durdon also had to become creative with his movements, and roll out of danger, leap to avoid a downward cut, and lean back to avoid a horizontal cut that could have been fatal.

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Ronen unleashed another wave and pushed Dyas out of range, to give himself some space. She rolled to her feet and continued to advance on Durdon. The two combatants clashed sabers again, giving it everything they had, utilizing all of their training and all of their mastery of the saber and the force and of their own minds and bodies. They fought toward the center of the hangar bay, where Durdon managed to swing himself around and deliver a horizontal cut, which Dyas deflected, but he continued the motion and delivered a leg sweep that knocked Dyas to the deck. He stood over her, ready to finish it, but she quickly delivered a swift kick to his knee, and he also fell to the deck plating. As he fell, he grabbed onto Dyas' lightsaber by the hilt, and tried to force her weapon out of the way so he could deliver the finishing blow. He unleashed another blast of Light to try to stun Dyas, again to no effect, and she grabbed his own lightsaber by the hilt and the two combatants grappled, rolling on the deck, each trying to gain some advantage over the other.

Ronen tried to unleash another blast of Force Wave at Dyas, but in such close quarters he found himself surrounded by the protective bubble that encased her body, and the only effect was that both of them went hurtling toward the ceiling, bounced off of it, and collapsed back onto the deck below. They continued rolling on the deck, until Durdon finally had Dyas pinned down, and he began forcing her own lightsaber back at her throat. Dyas, reaching deep, unleashed her speed and strength and reversed Durdon's lightsaber back toward his throat, and held back Durdon's greater strength and leverage, preventing herself from being decapitated. Durdon held back Dyas' counterattack, and forced his own saber forward as well...

Dyas twisted her body around, knocking Durdon off-balance, and then rolled in the opposite direction to avoid the killing blow. She twisted herself free of Durdon's grip, and gracefully did a backflip, avoiding another strike, and deftly dodged sideways to avoid another. She stood toe to toe with Durdon, and they clashed sabers one more time... her connection to the Force weakening, her shield finally began to buckle. Durdon unleashed one last wave of the Force at Dyas. They were standing so close to each other, that the wave blasted both Ronen Durdon and An-Wan Dyas in opposite directions, both of them slamming hard into the duranium on either side of the hangar bay. Durdon was the first to recover and stand up, but he saw that Dyas was also coming to. He disengaged his lightsaber and retreated out the nearby airlock. An-Wan also disengaged her lightsaber, and limped to the opposing airlock. Durdon had been unable to deliver the finishing blow, as Dyas proved to be too elusive. Dyas could not break Durdon's defenses. The contest ended without a death.

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Sol Jade and the other Jedi watched it all happen. When it was over, Sol Jade's brow furrowed slightly. "Hmmm......"

He paused.

"It seems that the contest ended in a draw. This is getting us nowhere. We don't have time for this, we need to prepare for tonight's duties. Everyone proceed to your assigned sections, or get some sleep. You have your orders already."

Alive: (40/68)

a completely inoffensive name
AntiKingWarmancake
Autolycus
Beefy187
Belisarius II
ByzantineKnight
Captain Blackadder
Cecil XIX
Chaotix
choxorn
civplayah Replaced by Skooma Addict2
Csargo
Cultured Drizzt fan Replaced by Sasaki Kojiro2
Cute Wolf Replaced by Yaseikhaan2
Death is yonder
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ignoramus
Ironside
Jarema
Jolt Replaced by Tincow2
Joooray
Kagemusha
Khazaar
Link
Major Robert Dump Replaced by Slysnake2
Nictel
Nightbringer
Niklas Replaced by Yaropolk2
Psychonaut
Renata
Robbiecon
Secura Replaced by Zack2
Seon
TheFlax Replaced by Raskolnikov2
wideyedwanderer
Winston Hughes Replaced by Double A2

Force Ghost: (1/68)

pevergreen- Jedi Master Jacin Sky (Killed Night Four)

Dead: (26/68)

Raskolnikov- Jedi Initiate Mas Amdu Kof (Killed Day One)
Slysnake- Jedi Initiate Kerren Cae (Killed Night One)
Stuck in Pi- Jedi Initiate Si-At Unesh (Killed Night One)
Double A- Jedi Initiate Mun Farlander (Killed Day Two)
Zack- Jedi Initiate Yogal Sec-barr (Killed Night Two)
Yaropolk- Jedi Initiate Yala Edak (Killed Day Three)
Sasaki Kojiro- Jedi Initiate Sec-sar Jor (Killed Night Three)
Skooma Addict- Jedi Initiate Ker-oth Ex (Killed Night Three)
Yaseikhaan- Jedi Initiate Kaz'an Neimoidian (Killed Night Three)
Tincow- Jedi Initiate Lo'son Galeb (Killed Day Four)
ArpeggiateTHIS- Jedi Initiate Azurine Kadu (Killed Night Four)
YLC- Jedi Initiate Drafo Tylum (Killed Day Five)
spL1tp3r50naL1ty- Jedi Initiate Ker'ral Fisid (Killed Night Five)
Sigurd- Jedi Initiate Cah Andwal (Killed Day Six)
Sprig- Jedi Initiate Qui Ul'pat (Killed Night Six)
Andres- Jedi Initiate Stre-don Rett (Killed Night Six)
Rebel Jeb- Jedi Knight Ushan Nihlek (Killed Night Six)
Beskar- Jedi Initiate Jax Revus Sith Apprentice Darth Fermanagh (Killed Night Six)
Askthepizzaguy- Jedi Grandmaster Nomi Sunrider (Killed Night Six)
Ibn-Khaldun- Jedi Padawan Gall Rado (Killed Night Seven)
Classical_hero- Jedi Padawan Mar-ial Nih Pho (Killed Night Seven)
Johnhughthom- Jedi Padawan Taun Jan (Killed Night Seven)
dcmort93- Jedi Knight Mace Wyyrlar (Killed Night Seven)
landlubber- Jedi Knight Jenn Gon Rui (Killed Night Eight)
remake20- Jedi Padawan Rian-ban Fo (Killed Night Eight)
Stuck in Pi2- Jedi Padawan Ana Riya (Killed Night Eight)

Will of the Force: (1/68)

Romanic- Jedi Initiate Pla-den Krul (WOGed Night Three)

Night phase continues.

Askthepizzaguy

11-19-2010, 07:43

Skooma Addict replaces civplayah, who asked to be replaced.
Tincow replaces Jolt, who has failed to vote more than 5 days in a row.

Askthepizzaguy

11-21-2010, 02:04

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Day ends at 11:59:59 PM Sunday, November 21st, Eastern Time USA (If I get 25 people voting)

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Nor Stry-hoth sat in his chair, keeping a watchful eye on the display screen in front of him. His task was to guard one of the many hundred weapons fire control rooms, located near the bow of the ship. Behind him was the large firing chamber itself, a cylindrical device capable of generating a concentrated burst of power so incredible that it could shatter a small moon in a single blast. The room was cramped and didn't leave a lot of room for maneuvering. He heard the sound of footsteps coming down the nearby corridor, and it was not time for him to be relieved of duty yet.

He immediately stood up and prepared to ignite his yellow lightsaber in a basic Form I stance.

Then it appeared. The cloaked figure stepped into view. Nor quickly noted that the being did not have a lightsaber protecting its body, and reached out with the Force to generate the energy he would need.

Nor Stry-hoth: Identify yourself!

Unknown figure: .......

The cloaked figure raised its hands, and Stry-hoth immediately felt as if he was being choked. Reacting quickly, Nor unleashed a beam of concentrated protons at the exposed body of his attacker. Almost immediately, the choking stopped, and the cloaked being roared with a mixture of pain and frustration as the energy tore through its body. Nor Stry-hoth engaged his lightsaber and repeated the command.

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Nor Stry-hoth: Identify yourself!

The cloaked being repeated the attack, only this time with more power behind it. Nor Stry-hoth could feel his ribcage being compressed, and bones began to snap. He couldn't breathe... he couldn't move. He reached out and unleashed another proton beam, which ripped through the body of his attacker. The choking and compression eased slightly, but the cloaked creature continued standing, howling in pain, almost brought to its knees, but it remained focused on the attack. Nor could take no more, and had run out of energy.... the beam discontinued. The cloaked being immediately threw all it had into the attack, finishing Stry-hoth, and Nor's chest collapsed under the pressure. Purple blood shot out of his nose, and all the capillaries in his body burst. Nor's lightsaber clattered to the ground, and disengaged.

The victorious creature slammed Nor's body into the firing chamber, killing him instantly, crushing what remained of his body and incinerating it in the large explosion which followed. Power relays blew out all across the deck, and it took some time for the back-up power generators to activate the fire suppression system.

The cloaked being escaped back into the shadows.

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Datian Guus was returning to his quarters after his shift, heading down one of the many long, barely-illuminated corridors in the bowels of the ship. He turned a corner and noticed a cloaked figure standing at the far end of the hall, and immediately ducked back behind the corner, and began to mask his force presence. That's when he looked back and saw another cloaked figure rounding the corner and heading in his direction from the opposite side. Apparently his mind trick wasn't working.

Sensing that death was yonder, he immediately ignited his purple lightsaber and stood in a Form II stance.

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Datian Guus: Stand back, whoever you are! I'm really not in the mood for this!

First cloaked figure: That's a real shame....

Second cloaked figure: Well, this is unexpected.

The first cloaked figure noticed the second one approaching, but retained its focus on Datian Guus.

First cloaked figure: It's the end for you, Datian.

Mill Kunaay: Not if I have anything to say about it!

The first cloaked figure looked up, and saw that a panel in the ceiling had been removed, and a robed Jedi landed between them, standing in the way, as if protecting Datian Guus. The jedi ignited her lightsaber.

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Second cloaked figure: How amusing. Two for the price of one.

First cloaked figure: Do you really think you can stop me?

Mill Kunaay: I'm willing to die trying.

First cloaked figure: So be it...

The powerful being reached deep into the Force, and tapped its power. It began drawing Force energy from the area where Datian Guus and Mill Kunaay were standing, sapping their connection to the Force and sucking the life out of them. A vortex appeared, swallowing up the energy generated by both Datian Guus and Mill Kunaay.

Mill centered herself, and concentrated hard, shielding her mind from the effects of the attack, and Datian Guus as well. Her mind hardened further, as she had foreseen this attack coming.

Her powerful mind was able to turn back the power of the Dark Side. The first cloaked being seemed utterly in shock that the attack had been repelled by this young woman. The second one began laughing.

Second cloaked figure: Oooh, feisty, I like that.

First cloaked figure: You're going to pay for that, foolish one.

Mill Kunaay tapped deeper into the Force and lifted up the first cloaked being using telekinesis.

First cloaked figure: What?? No, this is impossible!

The first cloaked being was slammed against the wall of the corridor, and then against the other, and then back again. Mill Kunaay tossed its body down the corridor like a rag doll, pummeling it with repeated body slams. As if that weren't enough, she began spinning the cloaked figure around and around, causing the being to lose its concentration.

Datian Guus: Master Kunaay, what about the other one?

Second cloaked figure: *mocking* Yes, Master Kunaay, what about the other one?

Mill tossed the powerful creature down the corridor, where it immediately got to its feet and fled the scene to cut its losses. The two Jedi began advancing on the remaining cloaked figure, lightsabers burning brightly.

Second cloaked figure: I bet you two are just brimming with confidence after your victory.

Datian Guus: You might say that.

Second cloaked figure: Good.... twice the pride, double the fall.

Mill Kunaay's precognition informed her of what was about to happen next.

Mill Kunaay: Oh no.... Datian, get out of here!

Second cloaked figure: Hahahahahahaha!!!

The second cloaked figure reached deep into the Force, and unleashed a powerful sonic wave.... coming from both sides of the corridor. The two Jedi turned quickly to scramble out of the hole in the ceiling tiles, but there just wasn't enough time.

The bodies of both Jedi were crushed from the impact of the double wave of power.... and the remains shattered from the intense vibrations. The entire hallway was destroyed, sending tremors throughout the ship and filling the corridor with gas from the ruptured piping.

The second cloaked figure left the scene, victorious.

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Master Ronen Durdon stood in one of the observation rooms near the command center of the ship. His keen senses told him what was about to happen, and he readied himself for it.

Durdon: I knew you would come for me.

Unknown: I've been watching you.

Durdon: Shadowing my movements?

Unknown: .....

The cloaked figure ignited its purple lightsaber.

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Unknown: Your sword, Master Durdon.

Durdon: If I must.

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Ronen ignited his blue lightsaber, and stood in a classic, defensive, Form III- Soresu stance. His attacker was positioned in a Form V- Djem So stance.

Unknown: Really, Soresu? You've not been keeping up with your lightsaber training, have you Master Durdon?

Durdon: It hasn't failed me yet.

Unknown: There's a first time for everything.

Both of the figures paused momentarily, to center themselves. Then, in an instant, the carnage began. The figure with the purple lightsaber was clearly the aggressor, savaging Master Durdon with powerful attacking blows, attempting to break Durdon's defenses. Djem so was a continuation of the Soresu battle philosophy, except that instead of focusing on defense and waiting for your opponent to make mistakes, Djem so seeks to retain a solid defense while creating opportunities for attack. It isn't called the Way of the Krayt Dragon for nothing.

Durdon, for his part, was able to keep up with the attacker who was so skilled with the blade. More impressive was that he was still weary from his previous battle, and unable to perform many of the same acrobatic tricks as before. The blades met, crashing together repeatedly, the attacker seeking to wear out or break down the defender, and the defender expending as little energy as possible. It was still clear that Soresu was inadequate for the task, because the powerful blows caused by Djem so were beginning to wear down Master Durdon anyway.

Backed into a corner, Master Durdon propelled himself over the head of his attacker, assisted by the Force. But this trick nearly cost him his life, as it was only sheer luck that his attacker failed to capitalize on the exposed body sailing over its head. In the end it did nothing but gain him some more room to retreat.

Durdon: Powerful, you have become....

Unknown: Likewise.

The two beings battled on throughout the night. Durdon was completely unable to gain the advantage, and was running out of options. However, his attacker also began to tire, which gave Durdon the ability to continue fighting. They were too evenly-matched... but something had to give.

Durdon: It seems that this contest cannot be decided by our skill with a lightsaber.

Unknown: Don't try it...

Durdon hesitated for a moment to gather Force energy, and his assailant took the opportunity to deliver a blow which broke Durdon's lightsaber in half. Just as his attacker was about to deliver the final blow, Durdon unleashed a massive blast of power, creating a whirlwind of the Force.

His assailant managed to use a mind trick and the blast was mis-directed, but the assailant still needed to move out of the way. When he looked up, he saw that Master Durdon had fled the scene intact.

Frustration boiled through the cloaked being, but in the end, it said nothing, and disengaged its purple lightsaber, and calmly walked out of the observation room. It seemed that the contest was a draw.

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Nictel- Nor Stry-hoth

Nictel was a Jedi Padawan!

He was Jedi!

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Death is yonder- Datian Guus

Death is yonder was a Jedi Padawan!

He was Jedi!

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Choxorn- Mill Kunaay

Choxorn was a Jedi Knight!

He was Jedi!

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Sol Jade- Grandmaster of the Jedi Order

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Grandmaster Sol Jade gathered everyone together in the morning. They all reviewed the security holograms.

"Mill Kunaay was nearly able to spare the life of Datian Guus, but she could not turn back both attackers. They will both be remembered, and honored for their sacrifice. I note also that Master Ronen Durdon survived his encounter with whoever it was that attacked him. But young Padawan Nor Stry-hoth was not so fortunate.

I am therefore forced to promote All'uan Kraytous to the rank of Jedi Knight. May your service honor the memory of those who have fallen."

The young Jedi nodded, and accepted the promotion.

"Kenth Cogma and Bos Dhi Kao, you have also completed your training. I hereby grant you the rank of Master. We need experienced Jedi like Mill Kunaay to turn back the power of the Dark Side. I know you are both up to the challenge."

Both masters nodded.

"I have had a vision that the Force is coming back into balance. Our numbers may be fewer, but our powers are increasing. We will be able to turn back the Sith, I have foreseen this. But the Dark Side is still present, and it may be clouding my perceptions. Nothing is set in stone.

You must press onward. Today, I ask you to bring me a Sith. You must do this, to honor those who have fallen, and turn back the tide of bloodshed. May the Force be with you."

With that, the Jedi began their discussion.

ANNOUNCEMENT:

There have been promotions in Rank.

Jedi Master Kenth Cogma
Jedi Master Bos Dhi Kao
Jedi Knight All'uan Kraytous

Alive: (37/68)

a completely inoffensive name
AntiKingWarmancake
Autolycus
Beefy187
Belisarius II
ByzantineKnight
Captain Blackadder
Cecil XIX
Chaotix
civplayah Replaced by Skooma Addict2
Csargo
Cultured Drizzt fan Replaced by Sasaki Kojiro2
Cute Wolf Replaced by Yaseikhaan2
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ignoramus
Ironside
Jarema
Jolt Replaced by Tincow2
Joooray
Kagemusha
Khazaar
Link
Major Robert Dump Replaced by Slysnake2
Nightbringer
Niklas Replaced by Yaropolk2
Psychonaut
Renata
Robbiecon
Secura Replaced by Zack2
Seon
TheFlax Replaced by Raskolnikov2
wideyedwanderer
Winston Hughes Replaced by Double A2

Force Ghost: (1/68)

pevergreen- Jedi Master Jacin Sky (Killed Night Four)

Dead: (29/68)

Raskolnikov- Jedi Initiate Mas Amdu Kof (Killed Day One)
Slysnake- Jedi Initiate Kerren Cae (Killed Night One)
Stuck in Pi- Jedi Initiate Si-At Unesh (Killed Night One)
Double A- Jedi Initiate Mun Farlander (Killed Day Two)
Zack- Jedi Initiate Yogal Sec-barr (Killed Night Two)
Yaropolk- Jedi Initiate Yala Edak (Killed Day Three)
Sasaki Kojiro- Jedi Initiate Sec-sar Jor (Killed Night Three)
Skooma Addict- Jedi Initiate Ker-oth Ex (Killed Night Three)
Yaseikhaan- Jedi Initiate Kaz'an Neimoidian (Killed Night Three)
Tincow- Jedi Initiate Lo'son Galeb (Killed Day Four)
ArpeggiateTHIS- Jedi Initiate Azurine Kadu (Killed Night Four)
YLC- Jedi Initiate Drafo Tylum (Killed Day Five)
spL1tp3r50naL1ty- Jedi Initiate Ker'ral Fisid (Killed Night Five)
Sigurd- Jedi Initiate Cah Andwal (Killed Day Six)
Sprig- Jedi Initiate Qui Ul'pat (Killed Night Six)
Andres- Jedi Initiate Stre-don Rett (Killed Night Six)
Rebel Jeb- Jedi Knight Ushan Nihlek (Killed Night Six)
Beskar- Jedi Initiate Jax Revus Sith Apprentice Darth Fermanagh (Killed Night Six)
Askthepizzaguy- Jedi Grandmaster Nomi Sunrider (Killed Night Six)
Ibn-Khaldun- Jedi Padawan Gall Rado (Killed Night Seven)
Classical_hero- Jedi Padawan Mar-ial Nih Pho (Killed Night Seven)
Johnhughthom- Jedi Padawan Taun Jan (Killed Night Seven)
dcmort93- Jedi Knight Mace Wyyrlar (Killed Night Seven)
landlubber- Jedi Knight Jenn Gon Rui (Killed Night Eight)
remake20- Jedi Padawan Rian-ban Fo (Killed Night Eight)
Stuck in Pi2- Jedi Padawan Ana Riya (Killed Night Eight)
Nictel- Jedi Padawan Nor Stry-hoth (Killed Night Nine)
Death is yonder- Jedi Padawan Datian Guus (Killed Night Nine)
Choxorn- Jedi Knight Mill Kunaay (Killed Night Nine)

Will of the Force: (1/68)

Romanic- Jedi Initiate Pla-den Krul (WOGed Night Three)

Night phase ending/thread opening early. You may use the extra time. I need at least 25 people voting to end the round on November 21st at 11:59:59 PM.

I do not have your results done in advance. It could take a couple hours to update everyone, and in fact I cannot even do it right away. I will send out quick results only to people who have performed active abilities, because I have to run. I will update you all ASAP.

Askthepizzaguy

11-21-2010, 02:49

Ok those with active abilities used last night got results.

I have to step away from the computer. The results are still INCOMPLETE, if you didn't get an update that doesn't mean you're not getting one, it just means you didn't use a power on anyone last night.

pevergreen

11-21-2010, 04:08

Vote: Warman

You are the weakest link, goodbye.

seireikhaan

11-21-2010, 04:16

Vote: Robbiecon

I stand by my last phase's vote. For now. Maybe.

Seon

11-21-2010, 04:23

Alright, the double hockeysticks with (and i hope that's not infraction worhy because I just made it up in my head few seconds ago) Ignoramus and Joooray. Let us now take a serious look at Vote: Diana Abnoba. She has been rather uncharacteristic and quiet throughout this whole game and I hope to know why.

Sasaki Kojiro

11-21-2010, 04:29

vote:diana

Death is yonder

11-21-2010, 04:31

mm I'm honored that whoever it was thought I was so powerful to send two folks after me to kill me :laugh4:

IIRC wasn't it the sith in the past night phase who was using the sonic wave scream thing to kill people? If that was the case, then this very write up proves with near certainty that (as others have mentioned/theorized) that the sith are able to mask their lightsaber colors. Which brings about the question: Then what is the drawback of hiding your identity? If there wasn't a draw back, then they would have been using their non-red lightsabers virtually all the time, unless the variations in color is just there for them to be able to cause confusion to mess up discerning kill patterns etc

Vote: Warman

You are the weakest link, goodbye.

I would presume that your information network has finally gotten down to actually being able to utilize that information? :thinking:

Apparently his mind trick wasn't working.

Sensing that death was yonder

You couldn't resist could you pizza? :laugh4: thanks for the good death :bow:

Seon

11-21-2010, 04:35

IIRC wasn't it the sith in the past night phase who was using the sonic wave scream thing to kill people? If that was the case, then this very write up proves with near certainty that (as others have mentioned/theorized) that the sith are able to mask their lightsaber colors. Which brings about the question: Then what is the drawback of hiding your identity? If there wasn't a draw back, then they would have been using their non-red lightsabers virtually all the time, unless the variations in color is just there for them to be able to cause confusion to mess up discerning kill patterns etc

I don't think the sonic boom user ever used a lightsaber before.

Choxorn

11-21-2010, 04:35

Well, I'll have to say, I wasn't really expecting that.

Beefy187

11-21-2010, 05:03

Vote: Chaotix

I stand by my vote too.
I would like to know more on the Warman case.

Askthepizzaguy

11-21-2010, 05:16

You couldn't resist could you pizza? :laugh4:

There will never be a game that goes by where I do not make a pun about your name when you die. It's my thing now.

Whenever you see me say the word "yonder", you didn't survive. Just so you know. :laugh4:

autolycus

11-21-2010, 05:38

The last large game I was in, we didn't kill Diana Abnoba, and I regretted it. She has been awfully quiet. vote:Diana Abnoba.

Choxorn

11-21-2010, 06:38

There will never be a game that goes by where I do not make a pun about your name when you die. It's my thing now.

Whenever you see me say the word "yonder", you didn't survive. Just so you know. :laugh4:

Well, phooey, I would have just skipped ahead to "Death is Yonder and choxorn both died" if I knew that. :laugh4:

pevergreen

11-21-2010, 06:56

There is no case on warman.

Double A

11-21-2010, 07:12

There is no case on warman.

If there is one, it's very brief.

Askthepizzaguy

11-21-2010, 08:33

Goody, goody. Okay, if you were to receive a role PM update, then you've got one. Inform me of any missing data or errors that you see.

If you did not get a PM update at this point, then you did not learn a new force power.

Choxorn

11-21-2010, 09:25

You seem to have missed one, I did not get the PM telling me that I rise from the dead and become a Sith-killing machine of awesomeness.

Askthepizzaguy

11-21-2010, 09:27

You seem to have missed one, I did not get the PM telling me that I rise from the dead and become a Sith-killing machine of awesomeness.

That comes later. Patience young one.

Nightbringer

11-21-2010, 10:26

vote:wideyedwanderer
for reasons stated yesterday

pever, please elaborate a bit

pevergreen

11-21-2010, 11:18

There is no case on warman.

I can't elaborate more than this.

Nightbringer

11-21-2010, 11:52

I can't elaborate more than this.
so why are you voting him? is there some reason you cant reveal? why not vote WeW instead?

Kagemusha

11-21-2010, 12:31

so why are you voting him? is there some reason you cant reveal? why not vote WeW instead?

Is there a case against WeW then? This is getting mighty confusing. Ignoramus and Jooray fight to a standstill, then Jooray is attacked during the night and fights the attacker to a standstill. Did Ignoramus attack Jooray during the night or was it someone else? Last is it or there a case against Warman?

robbiecon

11-21-2010, 13:10

Well, so far pevergreen's information has been as unreliable as a sandwich is a snake pit (whatever that might mean).

As for Seon's point against Diana, many people have been quiet this game, and some have been killed. NONE of them were Sith.

However it's not so much Seon's vote that concerns me, but more so the vote from Sasaki immediately afterwards.

For this reason, I will Vote: Saskai Kojiro 2, a vote immediately after it was suggested, where you couldn't even put her full name down, never mind even say you agree with Seon, and that's why your voting.

Renata

11-21-2010, 13:13

I kinda agree with that vote -- Sasaki has been different since his resurrection. I'd like to believe he wouldn't give himself away like that, but I'm not positive.

However, vote: wideyedwanderer

pevergreen

11-21-2010, 13:32

Sasaki, i'm not sure about.

Unvote: Warman

Ig didn't fight jooray last night, but the fact that joooray stopped Ig is not a good thing.

We know that he is at least on the path away from the light side of the force - where it takes him we aren't 100% sure.

He is currently equal in power to the strongest amongst you.

My info has never been from me, I'm just a conduit. :yes:

And as a conduit, we got another result like the one joooray received.

susceptible, dark side already present. Problem is, what do we do. At this point, I'm leaning towards a second investigation, to see if that gets anything extra.

We also got an interesting result on another person. "The light side is not strong with this one."

I'll be following that up as well.

Something has struck me a bit off about a number of players though.

I wonder why Jooray even bothered scanning dcmort a second time when he seemed so certain that he was scum. It's like he was expecting him to come up innocent and just wanted another point to try to save him. There is still a nagging thought in the back of my mind asking why a Sith would try to do something like this however.

So you agree with Psycho that I am seem neutral? Good, because that means I am controlling my emotions and not letting fear betray my thoughts. It is only through balance that the Jedi will overcome this crisis. I would hardly consider appearing neutral because of trying to consider all angles of thought a bad thing, but if you do than so be it. The only other option than being neutral is bandwagoning as far as I see.

So both Dcmort and classical_hero, two of the most suspected players, were both innocent. I don't know what to say other than that Pever's scanner is going to get it unless a good reason is involved. Either that or we should ignore Pever's suggested lynchs entirely.

Unvote, Vote: Wideeyedwander We've got Jooray's number, it will be hard now for him to do anything without the town knowing. Let's wait and see what happens this next night before we judge Jooray. Wideeyed is a much more unknown factor however.

Wait I was under the impression that you said that lightsaber color, even red, had no bearing on who their user was. Did I imagine that?

Yeah, narh.

Vote: Frozen In Ice

a completely inoffensive name

11-21-2010, 13:56

This is what happens when you all don't listen to my bipartisan plan to reach out to the Sith party.

Ibn-Khaldun

11-21-2010, 14:10

You seem to have missed one, I did not get the PM telling me that I rise from the dead and become a Sith-killing machine of awesomeness.

I want that PM too!!~:mecry:

Kagemusha

11-21-2010, 14:22

Well i am going to Vote: Jooray. I cant underrstand in my right mind that if he could be among the strongest jedi right now and is on his way into turning to darkside. Why on earth we should let him live? If we attack him during night, it will only corrupt more of us, so i think he should be lynched.

God Emperor

11-21-2010, 15:57

Vote: Diana with the reason I gave yesterday

TinCow

11-21-2010, 16:36

Vote: Joooray

Real vigilantes don't kill townies just to prove their innocence.

Frozen In Ice

11-21-2010, 17:00

Well, pever its quite nice that you follow my every word, but it seems like you're just following a hunch. I'll follow my hunch too, so vote: Beefy.

pevergreen

11-21-2010, 17:18

Well, pever its quite nice that you follow my ever word, but it seems like you're just following a hunch. I'll follow my hunch too, so vote: Beefy.

Wrong person to go for.

DELETE_THIS

11-21-2010, 17:26

Sigh I'm dead and I fear the dark side clouds everything.

Sasaki Kojiro

11-21-2010, 18:24

I'm busy atm.

Chaotix

11-21-2010, 18:59

Diamondeye

11-21-2010, 20:13

You couldn't resist could you pizza? :laugh4: thanks for the good death :bow:

I noticed as well and just made a mental note while reading, "one of them is DiY" and read on :laugh4:

vote:Sasaki Kojiro again today.

Jarema

11-21-2010, 20:29

Vote: Diana

Nightbringer

11-21-2010, 20:51

Is there a case against WeW then?

Here are my cases against WeW and khazaar.

Originally Posted by Yaropolk
This is round 9, so anyone who has not posted during round 4 or later is WOG bait
Round 4 closed on 11/03 Here are the most lurky posters

Name, Posts, My Comments
Jolt NOT A SINGLE POST after signup
Link 2, 10/23, 11/13 - more than a 5 round gap in the middle
civplayah 3, last post 10/27
remake20 3, last post after 11/03
wideyedwanderer 3, last post after 11/03
landlubber 4
Cecil XIX 4, cleared by Pever
Greyblades 6,
Khazaar 6, atypically inactive
Belisarius II 7
Captain Blackadder 8
Ironside 8,
Nictel 10, 3 posts until 11/10 then woke up and started posting multiple times a day
AntiKingWarmancake 10

Either ATPG is asleep at the wheel or Jolt, civplayah and Link are doing something at night to keep themselves alive

Vote: Jolt

Post about weW

Originally Posted by Nightbringer
well, it looks like

Jolt is cleared on this by ATPG,

link seems to have just been gone in general,

Civplayah requested replacment,

remake20 is dead,

wideyedwanderer has been active today, but no posts

with this in mind, i am going to vote:wideyedwanderer

He is not usually so quiet, appears to have been watching the game. His posts have also all been simple votes with no explanation. He did express a greater desire for the Big New York game though so he might just be a bit uninterested. However, his recent post less visit suggests to me that he is interested and watching, just not posting.
He is also a relatively inexperienced player (like myself) and may be nervous about giving himself away if he is indeed a sith. This would explain the lack of posts.

I think iggy isnt a bad bet at this point, but i still never have seen a strong case against him.

I have also got a wierd vibe from chaotix, and diana abdona to some degree, but have nothing to back that up with.

Originally Posted by wideyedwanderer (40 minutes after my last post)
Vote: Joooray. His story isn't adding up to me. Kills Innocent players, saying "I was sure he was Sith..." Sort of reminds me of his behavior in Zack's Star Wars: A Regurgitated Hope on TWC.

Originally Posted by wideyedwanderer (a few hours later)
Joooray, let me get this straight. You are a vig, but your scan results are misleading? Something doesn't seem right.

Post 2 about WeW

Originally Posted by Nightbringer
Ok, now I'm sure you are scum. These are your fourth and fifth posts in the entire game, your most substantial posts, and they came 40 minutes and then 6 hours after i voted you for lurking.

Does this strike anyone else as highly suspicious.
He appears to be well aware of what is going on, despite no previous posts in a while.
He only posts now that he has been called out for it.
He posts almost immediately after being called out for it, further showing how much he is watching the game.
Finally, he is just jumping on the now easy Jooray bandwagon and making some vague noncommittal accusations.

I know I don't have proof, and likely don't have time to push this through today, but please please remember this guy tomorrow.
And please scan this guy and send pever your results tonight.

Post about khazaar

Originally Posted by Khazaar
Vote: Ignoramus I presume it´s between him and Jooray. Since the only obvious clue from the writeups is the red lightsaber I think we need to check the people that claimed vig/master/investigator stuff since none of that actually bore any fruit other than dead Jedi. Lynching inactives is close second, but maybe ATPG will wog them anyway so we don´t need to waste a vote...

Originally Posted by Nightbringer
ahh, another inactive jumps in just in time to defend his mafia buddy.

This one is feigning innocence by "presuming" it is between iggy and jooray. This is merely stating the obvious of what had been going on up until this point as well as prodding towards a two party election (lynching, same difference)

However, he too appears to have some degree of knowledge about what is going on in the game, knowledge that goes beyond what his level of activity would suggest.

He has been reading the write-ups and pizza's clarifications enough to know that only a RED light saber is a statement of guilt.
He is also aware of the possibility of lynching inactives, which would not be greatly obvious if he had just come in without paying attention.

He is also likely attempting to protect the person i see as our best bet of scum (WeW) by suggesting voting this way as a "waste" and suggesting they might be woged, when wideyedwanderer has just voting, assuring that will not happen for some time.

I propose that khaazar has been using the same tactic of hiding and staying under the radar as wideyedwanderer, only surfacing now that inactivity is being targeted in order to look active and to subtly protect his sith buddy.

While he has been more active than WeW he has been very uncontroversial with his votes, sticking to voting on the iggy bandwagon when he does vote.

In conclusion, FoS: khazaar

Originally Posted by Khazaar
Since the only obvious clue from the writeups is the red lightsaber I think we need to check the people that claimed vig/master/investigator stuff since none of that actually bore any fruit other than dead Jedi.

ps. can you please clarify this khazaar, this argument simply does not follow for me. i dont see the relation between these two points.

I do agree somewhat about diana being suspicious, but the sudden popularity of this seems very odd to me.

slysnake

11-21-2010, 21:37

Vote: Joooray

Real vigilantes don't kill townies just to prove their innocence.

You knew this was coming... Vote: Joooray

Joooray

11-21-2010, 22:11

Vote: Joooray

Real vigilantes don't kill townies just to prove their innocence.

I tried to explain my reasoning last day. I know now it wasn't a very good idea, but I saw little other chance to differentiate from the Sith actions during the night.

Well i am going to Vote: Jooray. I cant underrstand in my right mind that if he could be among the strongest jedi right now and is on his way into turning to darkside. Why on earth we should let him live? If we attack him during night, it will only corrupt more of us, so i think he should be lynched.

If Andres idea is correct, I'm only in danger of becoming part of the Dark Side if I continue killing people. And as I have promised I did not kill last night, merely investigated and protected. I will send the results to pever after this post. (No sense in exposing a likely innocent)
Also I wonder why I am being put under such scrutiny for attacking two people, when there is another vigilante that attacked far more people than I did. By this logic, he should be the prime suspect.

I will restate my vote from yesterday and Vote: Wideyedwanderer.

Ignoramus

11-21-2010, 22:22

Yaropolk

11-21-2010, 22:27

vote: wideeyedwonderer for no activity and lack of WOG even after the rest of the lurkers have been replaced

Frozen In Ice

11-21-2010, 23:14

Unvote, Vote: Diana Abnoba After what Ignoramus said I want to hear from her.

Chaotix

11-21-2010, 23:31

I strongly urge you to vote for Diana Abnoba. I scanned her tonight and was told she was using an active ability. Given the suspicion that she's already generated, that's good enough for me.

Let's get her to explain herself.

Vote: Diana Abnoba

Ignoramus- not to say that Diana hasn't been acting odd, but an active ability is hardly cause for suspicion. Most players at Knight level or higher have active abilities by now.

If Andres idea is correct, I'm only in danger of becoming part of the Dark Side if I continue killing people. And as I have promised I did not kill last night, merely investigated and protected. I will send the results to pever after this post. (No sense in exposing a likely innocent)
Also I wonder why I am being put under such scrutiny for attacking two people, when there is another vigilante that attacked far more people than I did. By this logic, he should be the prime suspect.

I will restate my vote from yesterday and Vote: Wideyedwanderer.

2 things:
-The other vigilante (I assume you mean the purple lightsaber one, because I think there were more) killed a Sith twice. You have killed more innocents, and you have used Force Lightning, a Dark side power. Clearly you are already Dark Side.
-Your identity is known to the town. The other vigilante's is not, and perhaps he would be under suspicion too if we knew his identity. But again, he's killing Sith and you're not.

And regardless of whether or not you meant to kill innocents in the first place, what you have done has brought you under the influence of the Dark Side. You are no longer working in the best interests of the town.

seireikhaan

11-22-2010, 02:20

Unvote, vote: Chaotix

So assertive. So confident. So.... scummy.

Ironside

11-22-2010, 02:43

Skooma Addict

11-22-2010, 03:14

To be honest, I thought his post was pretty reasonable, but I don't think Joooray should eat up any votes as of right now. He's a wild Jedi on a short leash. He'll behave from now on.

Vote: Wideyedwanderer is more interesting to me, as is Beefy.

fos: Beefy Monster

TinCow

11-22-2010, 03:35

I tried to explain my reasoning last day. I know now it wasn't a very good idea, but I saw little other chance to differentiate from the Sith actions during the night.

I believe your reasoning completely. Killing townies doesn't tend to prove innocence though.

I strongly urge you to vote for Diana Abnoba. I scanned her tonight and was told she was using an active ability. Given the suspicion that she's already generated, that's good enough for me.

Please explain how using an activy ability is scummy.

Chaotix

11-22-2010, 03:39

Vote: Wideyedwanderer

His sudden activity burst did feel odd.

Jooray is at least contained for now, and it does feels doubtful that he have joined mr purple saber after tonight.

Chaotix, could you please point out the case on remake20, mr purple saber's latest dying victim? Ourside from being lurking?
Mr purple saber really feels like a serial killer with a thin excuse of sith hunting.

The double attack on Death is yonder is interesting, since the attackers doesn't seem to cooperate. If that's the case, I'm leaning towards this being evidence for two separate sith factions.

I'm not defending the other vigilante. I'm saying that Joooray is just as bad, or worse.
The purple lightsaber vigilante has killed Sith in addition to innocents, but Joooray has only gone after innocents so far.

Basically, I'm saying Joooray is saying "But he was doing it too!" and then using it as his defense. That kind of reasoning doesn't make Joooray any less guilty, he's just trying to shift blame on someone we don't know and therefore can't lynch even if we want to.

pevergreen

11-22-2010, 03:49

I'm not defending the other vigilante. I'm saying that Joooray is just as bad, or worse.
The purple lightsaber vigilante has killed Sith in addition to innocents, but Joooray has only gone after innocents so far.

Basically, I'm saying Joooray is saying "But he was doing it too!" and then using it as his defense. That kind of reasoning doesn't make Joooray any less guilty, he's just trying to shift blame on someone we don't know and therefore can't lynch even if we want to.

Ignore the purple vigilante, I've got his every move covered.

I think that Joooray is currently not a credible threat. I still believe his victory conditions align with ours.

I say we ignore Ig/Joooray and look at some new people. Frozen, or Diana. Either is good.

Death is yonder

11-22-2010, 03:56

The double attack on Death is yonder is interesting, since the attackers doesn't seem to cooperate. If that's the case, I'm leaning towards this being evidence for two separate sith factions.

As a matter of fact, if pever can confirm that one of my attackers was not a vigilante that he knows about, this is very compelling evidence indeed that there may be two anti-town factions or something similar (not say two sith factions, that may be nonsense cooked up by Beskar)

Datian Guus was returning to his quarters after his shift, heading down one of the many long, barely-illuminated corridors in the bowels of the ship. He turned a corner and noticed a cloaked figure standing at the far end of the hall, and immediately ducked back behind the corner, and began to mask his force presence. That's when he looked back and saw another cloaked figure rounding the corner and heading in his direction from the opposite side.

Here their independence is ambiguous but still plausible, were they coming from two different sides because they were working together and seeking to corner me, or were they from two different sides because they weren't working together? :thinking:

First cloaked figure: That's a real shame....

Second cloaked figure: Well, this is unexpected.

The first cloaked figure noticed the second one approaching, but retained its focus on Datian Guus.

By the phrasing of these three statements, one can tell immediately that the previous quotation was due to their independence, for not only does the word "unexpected" imply that they definitely aren't working together, the addition of a phrase at the end "but retained its focus", as if they would normally be enemies and not friends.

Lastly, should the two have been cooperating, they would have attacked together, rather than the second cloaked figure waiting for the first to flee the scene before unleashing his power. Moreover, their manner of speech, of arrogance and being self assured in their own power highly suggests that they aren't jedi vigging people.

Conclusion: Unless pever can attest to one of my attackers being a vigilante which I highly doubt, my attackers are living proof that we have either two sith factions, or for that matter since we don't really know, two independent mafia factions. [or the off chance that there's a serial killer about or something]

Just some food for thought, don't know if pever's figured this already with the information available to him :bow:

wideyedwanderer

11-22-2010, 04:02

vote: wideeyedwonderer for no activity and lack of WOG even after the rest of the lurkers have been replaced

No activity? Though I have missed a few days, I have voted enough to keep me off of ATPG's WoG list. Less active players have yet to be WoG'd. If you had bothered to check, you would have noticed this. But you didn't, perhaps because you are looking to draw attention away from yourself and your fellow mafia? Either that, it's just a lazy accusation.

Did anyone bother to read my defense? Since it appears to have gone overlooked, I will reiterate. It would be a very bad move by any mafia to increase in activity after having been inactive in the beginning (I was inactive because I was unaware the game had started, and after that, I just missed a few day phases because I tend to be more active on twc atm), thus my activity would be better off considered as a sign of my Innocence.

Nightbringer has been very active against me, but has no reasons except for, "He was inactive, now he is active." It is rather disturbing that the town is this desperate for a target that they are following his lead.

I will repeat: If you want to eliminate me through lynch, you will have to do it twice, since I have the force breath and will survive 1 lynch.

I don't care if I am eliminated, since I'd rather focus on playing in one forum rather than 3, but I must do my part to help the town, and discourage you from wasting 2 days of lynches on me. But if the majority of you are so excited to lynch me, and feel you have no better target atm, I will gladly take one for the team, especially since I am only a padawan, and I have no useful information.

Sasaki Kojiro

11-22-2010, 04:17

unvote, vote:chaotix

Nightbringer

11-22-2010, 04:54

No activity? Though I have missed a few days, I have voted enough to keep me off of ATPG's WoG list. Less active players have yet to be WoG'd. If you had bothered to check, you would have noticed this. But you didn't, perhaps because you are looking to draw attention away from yourself and your fellow mafia? Either that, it's just a lazy accusation.

Did anyone bother to read my defense? Since it appears to have gone overlooked, I will reiterate. It would be a very bad move by any mafia to increase in activity after having been inactive in the beginning (I was inactive because I was unaware the game had started, and after that, I just missed a few day phases because I tend to be more active on twc atm), thus my activity would be better off considered as a sign of my Innocence.

Nightbringer has been very active against me, but has no reasons except for, "He was inactive, now he is active." It is rather disturbing that the town is this desperate for a target that they are following his lead.

I will repeat: If you want to eliminate me through lynch, you will have to do it twice, since I have the force breath and will survive 1 lynch.

I don't care if I am eliminated, since I'd rather focus on playing in one forum rather than 3, but I must do my part to help the town, and discourage you from wasting 2 days of lynches on me. But if the majority of you are so excited to lynch me, and feel you have no better target atm, I will gladly take one for the team, especially since I am only a padawan, and I have no useful information.

I actually agree with you that it is a little odd just how many people are jumping on board with this, and there may be a few of this supposed third faction among them. However, I do not want people to misinterpret my case against you. It is not that you were inactive and then you were, it is that you were inactive until the very hour it was brought up, from which point on you have become quite active.

Your argument for your activity proving your innocence is exactly what you would try to say if you were sith and had messed up, so it cannot be trusted. Your claim of force breath is likewise a simple attempt that a sith would make to deter a vote.

Your claim that you were simply not on this board does not make sense given the fact that you had been on a number of times before my post, and IMMEDIATELY responded to my accusations. All I can say is i might be wrong, but your actions perfectly match those of a sith trying to cover his mistake.

pever, do you have any info on WeW?

Beefy187

11-22-2010, 05:03

Ignoramus- not to say that Diana hasn't been acting odd, but an active ability is hardly cause for suspicion. Most players at Knight level or higher have active abilities by now.

I don't have any active abilities.
Unvote, Vote: Chaotix

Askthepizzaguy

11-22-2010, 05:21

Diana Abnoba: (6) Seon, Autolycus, God Emperor, Jarema, Ignoramus, Frozen in Ice
WEW: (6) Nightbringer, Renata, Joooray, Yaropolk, Ironside, Skooma Addict

Joooray: (4) Kagemusha, Tincow, Chaotix, Slysnake

Chaotix: (3) Beefy187, Yaseikhaan, Sasaki

Sasaki Kojiro2: (2) Robbiecon, Diamondeye

Frozen in Ice: (1) pever,

Not enough voters to end the round yet.

Sasaki Kojiro

11-22-2010, 05:28

naut

11-22-2010, 05:32

Diana? She's often quiet, doesn't mean anything, weak reasoning.

Chaotix

11-22-2010, 05:53

The chaotix wagon is the only wagon without ignoramus, jooray, or chaotix on it which is not on someone awesome or started by pever who I'm going to appeal to the popular sentiment from his claim that sigurd was sith to discredit for the sake of completeness.

So.

And yet, for all that, there is no case. Just saying you want me dead would have sufficed equally, Sasaki.

If I were to drop Joooray, I would go for either Frozen or Beefy, but neither of them have enough votes to warrant me changing my own.

Cecil XIX

11-22-2010, 06:02

Sticking with vote:wideyedwonderer for now.

pevergreen

11-22-2010, 06:11

pever, do you have any info on WeW?
Nope

Conclusion: Unless pever can attest to one of my attackers being a vigilante which I highly doubt, my attackers are living proof that we have either two sith factions, or for that matter since we don't really know, two independent mafia factions. [or the off chance that there's a serial killer about or something]

Just some food for thought, don't know if pever's figured this already with the information available to him :bow:
As I've been saying, I've believed there were two different factions for quite a while. All known jedi with attacking powers were accounted for last night. Even joooray decided to let me know what he was up to. Investigating Ig. :laugh4:

The chaotix wagon is the only wagon without ignoramus, jooray, or chaotix on it which is not on someone awesome or started by pever who I'm going to appeal to the popular sentiment from his claim that sigurd was sith to discredit for the sake of completeness.

So.

Ouch, that hurts. :cry:

wideyedwanderer

11-22-2010, 06:15

I actually agree with you that it is a little odd just how many people are jumping on board with this, and there may be a few of this supposed third faction among them. However, I do not want people to misinterpret my case against you. It is not that you were inactive and then you were, it is that you were inactive until the very hour it was brought up, from which point on you have become quite active.

Your argument for your activity proving your innocence is exactly what you would try to say if you were sith and had messed up, so it cannot be trusted. Your claim of force breath is likewise a simple attempt that a sith would make to deter a vote.

Your claim that you were simply not on this board does not make sense given the fact that you had been on a number of times before my post, and IMMEDIATELY responded to my accusations. All I can say is i might be wrong, but your actions perfectly match those of a sith trying to cover his mistake.

pever, do you have any info on WeW?

If I were Sith, I would not have renewed my activity. Absolutely no one besides you found my lack of activity suspicious at the time. I was not under any pressure. If I hadn't replied, it is likely your accusation would have gotten lost in the Joooray and Ignoramous cases. I chose to reply then and there because I have nothing to hide.

My claim that I wasn't on this board does indeed make sense if you had looked at my log-in times. I logged in right after ATPG's write up, but because I hadn't been paying enough attention to this game, I didn't know who to vote for, thus I decided to wait before casting my vote. Those who have played in games with me and had paid close attention to when I cast my votes would realize that I've done this quite often, regardless of my alignment.

As I said before, I had a nasty habit of missing the day phases and logging in at night when posting was closed. If I were mafia, and I had been following this game all along, I would not have failed to post/vote earlier. I am no longer new to mafia, and have played in and won as mafia before. I would not have made such a drastic mistake. Let's keep in mind that mafia generally don't miss votes, but instead lay low.

Because you are suspicious of my force breath claim, and not wrongfully so, go ahead and lynch me to prove it.

Vote: wideyedwanderer.

Diana Abnoba

11-22-2010, 06:28

Wow, you guys really don't know how to read me do you. So many times when I'm townie, you all want to lynch me. I'm not as active in this game because of RL as I have stated before. And as for the active power I was using last night, I have been using that power since the beginning of the game. It is a protection on one player each night. So it may not be a good idea to lynch me.

Vote: WEW because I get a scum vibe from him, and also to save myself.

Link

11-22-2010, 06:32

Sorry pizza, but I'd like to be replaced if possible.

Askthepizzaguy

11-22-2010, 06:35

Sorry pizza, but I'd like to be replaced if possible.

Very well; here's hoping it is the last of its kind.

wideyedwanderer

11-22-2010, 06:41

naut

11-22-2010, 06:43

Vote: Chaotix

Best lynch candidate there is viable today.

wideyedwanderer

11-22-2010, 06:55

Ignoramus

11-22-2010, 07:14

Captain Blackadder

11-22-2010, 07:51

Vote Chaotix

I believe WEW. I don't believe that is is sith at least not right now. Whilst he may become one latter. I do not think he has been going out killing people.

Nightbringer

11-22-2010, 08:09

If I were Sith, I would not have renewed my activity. Absolutely no one besides you found my lack of activity suspicious at the time. I was not under any pressure. If I hadn't replied, it is likely your accusation would have gotten lost in the Joooray and Ignoramous cases. I chose to reply then and there because I have nothing to hide.

My claim that I wasn't on this board does indeed make sense if you had looked at my log-in times. I logged in right after ATPG's write up, but because I hadn't been paying enough attention to this game, I didn't know who to vote for, thus I decided to wait before casting my vote. Those who have played in games with me and had paid close attention to when I cast my votes would realize that I've done this quite often, regardless of my alignment.

As I said before, I had a nasty habit of missing the day phases and logging in at night when posting was closed. If I were mafia, and I had been following this game all along, I would not have failed to post/vote earlier. I am no longer new to mafia, and have played in and won as mafia before. I would not have made such a drastic mistake. Let's keep in mind that mafia generally don't miss votes, but instead lay low.

Because you are suspicious of my force breath claim, and not wrongfully so, go ahead and lynch me to prove it.

Vote: wideyedwanderer.

I do feel inclined to believe you WeW, but at the same time everything you are saying could be very artfully crafted scum.

The real kicker to me voting you is i really dont believe that either iggy or jooray are sith, the case against diana is the same as the one on you but weaker, and i dont even know what the supposed case on chaotix is. os basically i am voting for you because i have seen a case to be made for you being sith when there is no other candidate in my opinion.

Sasaki Kojiro

11-22-2010, 08:18

And yet, for all that, there is no case. Just saying you want me dead would have sufficed equally, Sasaki.

What a conveniently deficient memory you have. It seems like just yesterday you were acknowledging the worth of my accusation in an attempt to deflect it.

Ouch, that hurts. :cry:

for the sake of completeness!

Beskar

11-22-2010, 09:32

Why are you trying to lynch my Sith partner, Diana?

Choxorn

11-22-2010, 10:17

Because she must have known that you were a Sith, she would have counted on it, so she clearly cannot choose the wine in front of her.

pevergreen

11-22-2010, 10:29

for the sake of completeness!
Not buying it.

Because she must have known that you were a Sith, she would have counted on it, so she clearly cannot choose the wine in front of her.
inconceivable!

I'm happy to change my vote if you reveal to pever and he is satisfied.

She has sent me her name, and single power. Very easily a cover though, no one is cleared by simply revealing.

At this point, neither Diana nor Chaotix should be lynched.

Out of the current choices, WeW is the best, or Frozen. But no one aside from me seems to think he is anything.

wideyedwanderer

11-22-2010, 10:50

I do feel inclined to believe you WeW, but at the same time everything you are saying could be very artfully crafted scum.

The real kicker to me voting you is i really dont believe that either iggy or jooray are sith, the case against diana is the same as the one on you but weaker, and i dont even know what the supposed case on chaotix is. os basically i am voting for you because i have seen a case to be made for you being sith when there is no other candidate in my opinion.

You are voting for me because you have seen a case made for me? You are the one who made it. I find it strange that Diana puts up a much less reasonable defense, and you believe it. All she said was, "You guys don't know how to read me." I, on the other hand, have explained to you all of my actions. It could be true, that I am mafia and I have crafted a lie for myself. But wouldn't it have been much easier and safer to have simply been active and lurked since the beginning? Because that is what your mafia have done, and they are delighted that you are spending time on me. Or is it because you, Nightbringer, are mafia yourself?

I am such a convenient distraction right now, I find it highly likely that there is at least one mafia supporting the case against me.

Not buying it.

inconceivable!

She has sent me her name, and single power. Very easily a cover though, no one is cleared by simply revealing.

At this point, neither Diana nor Chaotix should be lynched.

Out of the current choices, WeW is the best, or Frozen. But no one aside from me seems to think he is anything.

Would you like me to send you my name and abilities?

naut

11-22-2010, 10:55

But no one aside from me seems to think he is anything.
Frozen is a decent choice, he's backed up a bit since I FoSed him a couple pages back, trying to retreat from the spotlight?

Askthepizzaguy

11-22-2010, 11:02

ArpeggiateTHIS2 replaces Link

pevergreen

11-22-2010, 12:18

Would you like me to send you my name and abilities?
Sure

Frozen is a decent choice, he's backed up a bit since I FoSed him a couple pages back, trying to retreat from the spotlight?

Yeah, I think something is off with ihm.

Khazaar

11-22-2010, 12:38

Vote: TinCow, he replaced Jolt who hasn´t voted in five turns in a row. I presume it´s because of the importance of the role, so I´m hoping that it´s a badguy...

ArpeggiateTHIS

11-22-2010, 12:40

Woo, back in!

Vote: Wideeyedwanderer

I'm thinking that WeW needs to reveal to pever, and only if pever is content with the information will I change my vote from him.

Beefy187

11-22-2010, 12:58

Frozen is a decent choice, he's backed up a bit since I FoSed him a couple pages back, trying to retreat from the spotlight?

If not Chaotix, Frozen is good for me as well.

TinCow

11-22-2010, 13:09

Seems the choice is either WEW or Chaotix now. As such, I will

Unvote; Vote: Chaotix

Furthermore, I think Joooray must be destroyed. :ave:

pevergreen

11-22-2010, 13:17

Didn't read my post or ignoring it TC.

Double A

11-22-2010, 13:20

vote: Joooray.

I'm fairly confident he's the "vig" who used Force lightning.

autolycus

11-22-2010, 13:21

Alright, Fearless Dead Leader, unvote, vote:Frozen In Ice

Diamondeye

11-22-2010, 14:18

Out of the current choices, WeW is the best

Hmm, no, you're thinking of Sasaki Kojiro.

Renata

11-22-2010, 14:18

Frozen is a decent choice, he's backed up a bit since I FoSed him a couple pages back, trying to retreat from the spotlight?

Link to that FOS?

Renata

11-22-2010, 14:20

Vote: TinCow, he replaced Jolt who hasn´t voted in five turns in a row. I presume it´s because of the importance of the role, so I´m hoping that it´s a badguy...

You mean as opposed to the half dozen other replacements we've had so far?

TinCow

11-22-2010, 14:48

Didn't read my post or ignoring it TC.

Neither. Your post is one of the reasons he still must die. You make it clear that he claims a faction other than Jedi. Third parties are not to be trusted.

Yaropolk

11-22-2010, 15:12

Would you like me to send you my name and abilities?

That's a good start. Better do it soon so pever can confirm and we can switch votes.

Frozen In Ice

11-22-2010, 16:11

Frozen is a decent choice, he's backed up a bit since I FoSed him a couple pages back, trying to retreat from the spotlight?

I've backed up since I was FOS'd? Is that why I have been posting the same amount and actually had that really long post yesterday? I've just been trying to help the town analyze what we know so far, while many of the people suspicious of me are doing only the reason "he's scummy" without doing any real analysis of their own.

Nightbringer

11-22-2010, 16:13

You are voting for me because you have seen a case made for me? You are the one who made it. I find it strange that Diana puts up a much less reasonable defense, and you believe it. All she said was, "You guys don't know how to read me." I, on the other hand, have explained to you all of my actions. It could be true, that I am mafia and I have crafted a lie for myself. But wouldn't it have been much easier and safer to have simply been active and lurked since the beginning? Because that is what your mafia have done, and they are delighted that you are spending time on me. Or is it because you, Nightbringer, are mafia yourself?

I am such a convenient distraction right now, I find it highly likely that there is at least one mafia supporting the case against me.

I'm sorry if I was unclear, it is not simply because there is a case against you (which I did indeed make, but more because there is no case against anyone else as far as I can see. I see your actions as indicative of being a sith, and no one else has convinced me that there is a more likely candidate, even though my conviction about your sithness is not strong.
It would not have been wiser to be active since the beginning because then there would have been many more rounds during which suspicion could have been drawn to you.
And you are accusing me? Isn't that what every scum starts doing when they are about to go?

How about this WeW, why dont you try to make a good case on someone, if you find something really good i might even switch my vote off of you, but until then all i can see in you is a sith trying to save himself

@everyone else
Even if WeW "role reveals" to pever that proves nothing, he could easily give pever his cover role. while i agree it is a good idea to do for the sake of pevers database it means nothing without scanning and cross checking over the next couple nights.

pevergreen

11-22-2010, 16:14

Nothing from him yet.

TC: Wrong, I'm saying nothing. But I want neither of them to be lynched today.

edit:

I've backed up since I was FOS'd? Is that why I have been posting the same amount and actually had that really long post yesterday? I've just been trying to help the town analyze what we know so far, while many of the people suspicious of me are doing only the reason "he's scummy" without doing any real analysis of their own.

Really? Because Pyscho had his own thing going, then a few days later I come in and say 'hey whatsup with him' and now like one or two people have agreed/blindly followed me.

Over defence. Scum.

TinCow

11-22-2010, 16:39

TC: Wrong, I'm saying nothing. But I want neither of them to be lynched today.

Your TIN has burnt through their blind-faith voting credits. Your group has killed multiple Jedi at night and has made erroneous detective-result accusations which led to lynchings of townies. Your credibility is shot. If you want to convince me that I should change my vote, you're going to have make an actual defense.

Renata

11-22-2010, 17:06

That's ... so distorted as to be highly suspicious, TinCow. It's clear there are deliberately misleading and/or confusing investigation results at play in this game. While not exactly surprising, that was always going to cost a townie or three to sort through. Pever's purple-lightsaber person killed Beskar (twice), no townies, IIRC. Joooray says he killed Stuck in Pi on his own initiative; that's also not pever's issue. So at most you can blame pever for ... dcmort? That's not "your group has killed multiple Jedi at night".

Basically, TinCow, you're completely full of it right here. That's not like you.

unvote, vote TinCow

pevergreen

11-22-2010, 17:31

What he can blame me for is the Sigurd thing, though Sigurd certainly didn't help with that.

I'm doing the best I can with what I'm given. For never knowing 100% what people are saying, many refusing to give me exact wording, just their interpretation etc.

No, TinCow I will not let you infiltrate the network, ala Netherworld...:laugh4:

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88

11-22-2010, 18:04

Vote:TinCow

Die!:laugh4:

naut

11-22-2010, 18:09

I've backed up since I was FOS'd? Is that why I have been posting the same amount and actually had that really long post yesterday? I've just been trying to help the town analyze what we know so far, while many of the people suspicious of me are doing only the reason "he's scummy" without doing any real analysis of their own.
I FoSed you for your post style, not your post length. You've eased the tone back, but there's still a forceful edge to it. And that, that tweaks my gut.

Diamondeye

11-22-2010, 18:11

Your TIN has burnt through their blind-faith voting credits. Your group has killed multiple Jedi at night and has made erroneous detective-result accusations which led to lynchings of townies. Your credibility is shot. If you want to convince me that I should change my vote, you're going to have make an actual defense.

That's ... so distorted as to be highly suspicious, TinCow. It's clear there are deliberately misleading and/or confusing investigation results at play in this game. While not exactly surprising, that was always going to cost a townie or three to sort through. Pever's purple-lightsaber person killed Beskar (twice), no townies, IIRC. Joooray says he killed Stuck in Pi on his own initiative; that's also not pever's issue. So at most you can blame pever for ... dcmort? That's not "your group has killed multiple Jedi at night".

Basically, TinCow, you're completely full of it right here. That's not like you.

unvote, vote TinCow

No, Renata, you're wrong. TinCow is making complete sense.
AoS: Renata

TinCow

11-22-2010, 18:30

That's ... so distorted as to be highly suspicious, TinCow.

...

Basically, TinCow, you're completely full of it right here. That's not like you.

If I stretched the facts at all, it was an expression of annoyance at pever's condescending post.

No, TinCow I will not let you infiltrate the network, ala Netherworld...:laugh4:

You misunderstand the point of my post. You need to stop expecting everyone to obey your orders as if they were gospel, which is what this came off as:

Didn't read my post or ignoring it TC.

You need to give arguments and evidence, not just 'vote for X, don't vote for Y'.

Diamondeye

11-22-2010, 19:40

I agree completely. I gave pever one chance, gave him another. Until now, no good things have come of it.
It'd be healthy if others grew a critical sense when it comes to what pever does and says and starts thinking for themselves.

Frozen In Ice

11-22-2010, 21:03

Nothing from him yet.

TC: Wrong, I'm saying nothing. But I want neither of them to be lynched today.

edit:

Really? Because Pyscho had his own thing going, then a few days later I come in and say 'hey whatsup with him' and now like one or two people have agreed/blindly followed me.

Over defence. Scum.

I'm not over defending, I'm trying to keep myself alive. If it was only lynch by most votes that I needed to worry about then you'd be right. But I also have to convince a certain someone that I'm innocent or else I fear I'll get visited in the night and die with a saber through my chest. Since that someone could be anyone, to me every person matters in my defence, not necesarily just the ones that are currently voting for me. And anyway, you can make any action seem scummy if you distort it enough, which is exactly what you and psychonaut are doing.

Renata

11-22-2010, 22:56

No, Renata, you're wrong. TinCow is making complete sense.
AoS: Renata

He coudl have made sense (about not taking pever as gospel) without distorting the facts. I'm not taking pever as gospel. You're not taking pever as gospel. Very few people *are* taking pever as gospel. TinCow's post wasn't needed as an urgent warning to the town. But he said it anyway, *and* he chose to exaggerate the facts to the point of outright falseness when he did, which can only serve to discredit pever to a greater extent than he deserves. Sooner or later pevergreen *is* going to have an accurate piece of information, and Tincow's making it less likely that information will be heeded.

Renata

11-22-2010, 22:58

What's the vote count?

Sasaki Kojiro

11-22-2010, 23:07

Chaotix: 20
WeW: 6
Jooray: 2
Tincow: 1

I assume he counted correctly of course.

Diamondeye

11-22-2010, 23:14

Chaotix: 20
WeW: 6
Jooray: 2
Tincow: 1

Sasaki: 1

Chaotix

11-22-2010, 23:17

Chaotix: 20
WeW: 6
Jooray: 2
Tincow: 1

Messing with the tally will get you WoG'd, ya know. :clown:

If you're voting for me for something I said or did days ago, Sasaki, I don't really remember what it was; some vote that was supposed to make me look innocent but meant I was guilty?

Someone remind me of why wideyedwanderer is supposed to be guilty again?

Askthepizzaguy

11-22-2010, 23:24

10. DON'T MESS WITH THE TALLY! If I determine ANYONE is intentionally misrepresenting the tally, I WILL wog the offender immediately.

Are you sure that's what the tally is, mister Kojiro? :evil:

Nightbringer

11-23-2010, 00:59

Someone remind me of why wideyedwanderer is supposed to be guilty again?

Because he had been far out of the limelight, hardly posting and only bandwagon voting, but then when i accused him of possibly being scum lruking he jumped in with a defense immediatly and seemed quite aware of the game. he has now become quite active in his own defense, and made the various stereotypical mafia claims to avoid lynch, minor town role, force breath, dont waste time on me, etc... It is not proof by a longshot, but i just get the feeling he had been hiding then got spooked out and is now trying to cover his mistake.

plus i dont see much value in the other cases being made at this point, it all just looks like bandwagon wifom to me.

Chaotix

11-23-2010, 01:04

Because he had been far out of the limelight, hardly posting and only bandwagon voting, but then when i accused him of possibly being scum lruking he jumped in with a defense immediatly and seemed quite aware of the game. he has now become quite active in his own defense, and made the various stereotypical mafia claims to avoid lynch, minor town role, force breath, dont waste time on me, etc... It is not proof by a longshot, but i just get the feeling he had been hiding then got spooked out and is now trying to cover his mistake.

plus i dont see much value in the other cases being made at this point, it all just looks like bandwagon wifom to me.

Well, it seems Joooray is once again a lost cause, so...

Unvote, Vote: wideyedwanderer

I don't like the idea of leaving a Dark Jedi alive, though.

pevergreen

11-23-2010, 03:05

I have not been following the game well before recently, so I don't have any reason to believe you to be Innocent. However, if you are Sith, you don't have much of a reason to kill me, since I am a low priority target, thus I feel fine revealing to you.

Yeah not buying it WEW.

TC no one is really following me without questioning me. I have info and some of it is better not shared with every single player.

a completely inoffensive name

11-23-2010, 03:22

Hey guys I know it's pretty obvious that I am Sith, but I just want to say that you should kill that other guy who seems scummy. You will? Kthxbai.

Nightbringer

11-23-2010, 03:51

Hey guys I know it's pretty obvious that I am Sith, but I just want to say that you should kill that other guy who seems scummy. You will? Kthxbai.

could ACIN perhaps be using a double bluff? maybe we shouldn't just ignore him and get rid of him some time soon. or at least investigate him.

XD

Ignoramus

11-23-2010, 05:20

Unvote: Diana Abnoba
Vote: WEW

Askthepizzaguy

11-23-2010, 05:42

First Place

WEW: (11) Nightbringer, Joooray, Yaropolk, Ironside, Skooma Addict, Cecil XIX, WEW, Diana Abnoba, ArpeggiateTHIS, Chaotix, Ignoramus

Second Place

Chaotix: (6) Beefy187, Yaseikhaan, Sasaki, Psychonaut, Captain Blackadder, Tincow

Third Place

Diana Abnoba: (4) Seon, God Emperor, Jarema, Frozen in Ice

Fourth Place

Joooray: (3) Kagemusha, Slysnake, Double A
Tincow: (3) Khazaar, Renata, Warman

Fifth Place

Sasaki Kojiro2: (2) Robbiecon, Diamondeye
Frozen in Ice: (2) pever, Autolycus

dcmort93

11-23-2010, 05:48

So are we going to just let iggy go under the radar. I remember a few days ago he was tied for the lead. This going under the radar stuff is just what he wants, be him a wrongly suspected innocent or a rightfully suspected mafioso

Askthepizzaguy

11-23-2010, 06:14

Round has ended, standby for results. Posting is now closed; send in your night actions and preferences to me NOW.

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First Place

WEW: (11) Nightbringer, Joooray, Yaropolk, Ironside, Skooma Addict, Cecil XIX, WEW, Diana Abnoba, ArpeggiateTHIS, Chaotix, Ignoramus

Second Place

Chaotix: (6) Beefy187, Yaseikhaan, Sasaki, Psychonaut, Captain Blackadder, Tincow

Third Place

Diana Abnoba: (4) Seon, God Emperor, Jarema, Frozen in Ice

Fourth Place

Joooray: (3) Kagemusha, Slysnake, Double A
Tincow: (3) Khazaar, Renata, Warman

Fifth Place

Sasaki Kojiro2: (2) Robbiecon, Diamondeye
Frozen in Ice: (2) pever, Autolycus

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Sol Jade noted that time had expired, and asked for a vote.

"Have we reached a verdict?" Jade asked.

The votes were counted.

"Yes we have, Grandmaster" said one of the Jedi.

"Who has been found guilty?"

"Ushi Makoth."

"Very well. Let the accused have a chance to defend herself." Sol Jade said.

Ushi Makoth: "This foolish council can do whatever it wants. Sure, go ahead and throw me out into space. Fat lot of good it will do you, too. Though I suppose we should be thankful that we won't be killing one of our own again. Perhaps more of us will live to see Jedi Knight."

Sol Jade: "Ushi, I urge you to take these proceedings seriously."

Ushi Makoth: "How can I? Each death is more absurd than the last. Though frankly I shouldn't be surprised. The only person here who has actually managed to destroy a Sith, that being with the purple lightsaber, would probably be thrown out into space too. There's really nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, is there?

Sol Jade: "The Dark Side is strong, and clouds...."

Ushi Makoth: "...everything, yes I know."

Sol Jade: "Anything you say could be something a Sith would say to defend themselves. We listen, but we cannot be persuaded by lies."

Ushi Makoth: *holds her face in her hands in frustration* "Very well. Let us get this over with. Let the blind lead the blind straight over a precipice. Perhaps some in the rear of the line will learn eventually; we can only hope. Or does hope lead to the Dark Side as well?"

Sol Jade: "Ushi, if you will...."

Ushi Makoth stepped into the airlock, where she scowled at the remaining Jedi, and held her breath as the force field was released and she was blown out into space. She lay motionless for a while, but stayed close to the ship. Then she began doing somersaults and other acrobatic maneuvers to indicate she was still alive and unharmed. For several more long minutes she floated in space, until finally Sol Jade took mercy on her. Even the power to keep one alive in such conditions did not make it any less painful, and so she was brought back inside. She collapsed as the force field was restored and pressure returned.

Ushi Makoth: "Took you long enough."

She passed out.

Sol Jade: "Take her to the medical bay and treat her. This was supposed to be a lawful execution, not a means of torment. Ease her suffering, and inform me when she is ready to return to duty."

As the other Jedi carted the young female away, Sol Jade grumbled in frustration. How many days in a row would end without a death? The last Jedi executed on the ship was Cah Andwal, and none of the Sith had perished that way.

It was time to meditate. This night would be torment for Sol Jade himself, as it was finally time for the second Knighting ceremony. And there would be far too many in attendance to make this a safe affair for any of them.

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wideyedwanderer- Ushi Makoth

wideyedwanderer survived lynch due to Force Breath!

Alive: (37/68)

a completely inoffensive name
AntiKingWarmancake
Autolycus
Beefy187
Belisarius II
ByzantineKnight
Captain Blackadder
Cecil XIX
Chaotix
civplayah Replaced by Skooma Addict2
Csargo
Cultured Drizzt fan Replaced by Sasaki Kojiro2
Cute Wolf Replaced by Yaseikhaan2
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ignoramus
Ironside
Jarema
Jolt Replaced by Tincow2
Joooray
Kagemusha
Khazaar
Link Replaced by ArpeggiateTHIS2
Major Robert Dump Replaced by Slysnake2
Nightbringer
Niklas Replaced by Yaropolk2
Psychonaut
Renata
Robbiecon
Secura Replaced by Zack2
Seon
TheFlax Replaced by Raskolnikov2
wideyedwanderer
Winston Hughes Replaced by Double A2

Force Ghost: (1/68)

pevergreen- Jedi Master Jacin Sky (Killed Night Four)

Dead: (29/68)

Raskolnikov- Jedi Initiate Mas Amdu Kof (Killed Day One)
Slysnake- Jedi Initiate Kerren Cae (Killed Night One)
Stuck in Pi- Jedi Initiate Si-At Unesh (Killed Night One)
Double A- Jedi Initiate Mun Farlander (Killed Day Two)
Zack- Jedi Initiate Yogal Sec-barr (Killed Night Two)
Yaropolk- Jedi Initiate Yala Edak (Killed Day Three)
Sasaki Kojiro- Jedi Initiate Sec-sar Jor (Killed Night Three)
Skooma Addict- Jedi Initiate Ker-oth Ex (Killed Night Three)
Yaseikhaan- Jedi Initiate Kaz'an Neimoidian (Killed Night Three)
Tincow- Jedi Initiate Lo'son Galeb (Killed Day Four)
ArpeggiateTHIS- Jedi Initiate Azurine Kadu (Killed Night Four)
YLC- Jedi Initiate Drafo Tylum (Killed Day Five)
spL1tp3r50naL1ty- Jedi Initiate Ker'ral Fisid (Killed Night Five)
Sigurd- Jedi Initiate Cah Andwal (Killed Day Six)
Sprig- Jedi Initiate Qui Ul'pat (Killed Night Six)
Andres- Jedi Initiate Stre-don Rett (Killed Night Six)
Rebel Jeb- Jedi Knight Ushan Nihlek (Killed Night Six)
Beskar- Jedi Initiate Jax Revus Sith Apprentice Darth Fermanagh (Killed Night Six)
Askthepizzaguy- Jedi Grandmaster Nomi Sunrider (Killed Night Six)
Ibn-Khaldun- Jedi Padawan Gall Rado (Killed Night Seven)
Classical_hero- Jedi Padawan Mar-ial Nih Pho (Killed Night Seven)
Johnhughthom- Jedi Padawan Taun Jan (Killed Night Seven)
dcmort93- Jedi Knight Mace Wyyrlar (Killed Night Seven)
landlubber- Jedi Knight Jenn Gon Rui (Killed Night Eight)
remake20- Jedi Padawan Rian-ban Fo (Killed Night Eight)
Stuck in Pi2- Jedi Padawan Ana Riya (Killed Night Eight)
Nictel- Jedi Padawan Nor Stry-hoth (Killed Night Nine)
Death is yonder- Jedi Padawan Datian Guus (Killed Night Nine)
Choxorn- Jedi Knight Mill Kunaay (Killed Night Nine)

Will of the Force: (1/68)

Romanic- Jedi Initiate Pla-den Krul (WOGed Night Three)

Night Phase ends at 11:59:59 PM, Wednesday November 24th. This is going to be quite a difficult night phase for the game host, as your initiates who became padawans are now scheduled to all promote to Jedi Knight.

As you might imagine that's going to eat up a lot of my free time and you'll have to bear with me and be patient. Thank you.

Don't forget to send in orders, or you will do nothing all night.

Askthepizzaguy

11-24-2010, 07:58

22 Hours remain to send in night actions.

Tonight may be a good night to remind me which saber form and active defense you're using, if you sent one in like 7 rounds ago, it's buried somewhere in my notes. Probably a good idea to remind me, so I can keep the game moving. Perhaps you want to use a different form or defense this time, or perhaps you'd like to keep it the same. Either way it would be nice to check in with me and tell me what you're doing, for the record.

Edit: That deadline is a real pain, isn't it? Well, less than 3 hours remain. Time is a-runnin' out. :evil:

thread bumped

Askthepizzaguy

11-25-2010, 06:54

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Day ends at 11:59:59 PM Thursday, November 25th, Eastern Time USA (If I get 25 people voting, otherwise extended 24 hours.)

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Xando Caecilius was heading to the Knighting ceremony when he was stopped by a hooded figure.

Sensing he was in danger, Xando quickly ignited his blue lightsaber.

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The stranger reacted by igniting a yellow lightsaber, wordlessly.

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Xando quickly stood in a Makashi stance, and the hooded figure stood in an Ataru stance. They wasted no time. The hooded figure began the attack, and soon overwhelmed the young Padawan. It was all Xando could do to keep up with this menacing attacker, and very quickly, his saber was cut in half, disarming Xando. The cloaked figure prepared to unleash the final blow, but Xando reached out with the Force, and pushed the cloaked figure to the deck plating, surprising the superior fighter.

Xando fled the scene with his life, barely evading his attacker.

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Kin Barr was also heading to the Knighting ceremony, when she was stopped by a hooded figure.

Reacting quickly, she stood in a Shii-Cho stance and ignited her lightsaber.

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Without even flinching, the hooded figure raised its hands and they began to crackle. Kin Barr knew what was coming, and so she centered herself. The powerful being unleashed a devastating blast of Chain Lightning. The lightning not only impacted Barr but also ricocheted off of the deck plating and the walls of the corridor and reflected into the young woman. She tried to evade the blast with a Force Jump, but there was no escape. The blast hit her with full power and knocked her down to the deck plating.

The powerful being stopped to see if Kin Barr was dead, but she began to stir... she stood up and tried to defend herself with her lightsaber, trying to deflect the energy as she had seen her Master do. But the way she was holding the blade was more suited to a Jedi trying to deflect blaster shots from a training droid. She was also far from a master of the Shii-cho form, which was also never intended for this kind of combat.

The energy hit her lightsaber, and blew it completely out of her hand, leaving her exposed. The lightning continued, and her young body was knocked back to the ground, where it lay in agony and pain, until she went unconscious. The energy continued to flow from the hands of the cloaked figure, until the being was certain she was dead.

A smoking corpse was all that remained of a once-beautiful young lady Jedi. The figure fled the scene.

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An-Wan Dyas was not at her post, where she had been ordered to watch one of the warp reactors. She looking for someone that night, someone in particular. She closed her eyes and reached out with the Force, and she could tell that the person she was looking for was playing mind tricks on her. While the force signature came from her front, she knew enough to turn around. And there he was, the being she sought.

Traruyn Ura: Master Dyas, what a surprise to see you here. I thought you were going to be watching the warp reactors tonight as you were instructed?

An-Wan Dyas: In the name of the Jedi Council, I am placing you under arrest, my young apprentice.

Traruyn Ura: There must be some mistake, my Master. I have done nothing wrong. I've been a model for other aspiring Jedi. I've trained very hard under your lead, and I've learned almost everything you have taught me. I was just on my way to the Knighting ceremony. Can't this wait until then? I've always wanted to be a full Jedi knight.

An-Wan Dyas ignited her blue lightsaber.

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An-Wan Dyas: I'm giving you an order, as your Master. You're under arrest, and you will obey my commands.

Traruyn Ura: Master Dyas, what has gotten into you? This is not like you at all. Is it possible you've turned to the Dark Side?

An-Wan Dyas said nothing.

Traruyn Ura: My Master, without some reason for this "arrest" I am afraid I cannot comply. What are you charging me with? What crime have I committed?

An-Wan Dyas: If my senses are correct, you have been killing your superiors. Is this true?

Traruyn Ura: Oh Master Dyas, I can assure you, I have done no such thing. Even if that were true, I would only have done so in defense of the Republic, in the name of the free people of Coruscant, and with the express permission of the Jedi Council. I don't recall Nomi Sunrider ever condemning the use of force in bringing down Sith lords, especially under these circumstances.

An-Wan Dyas: How many Sith have you slain, my young padawan?

Traruyn Ura: It's impossible to count them all, really. There have been so.... so many. You might say I've been responsible for bringing us this far, so close to wiping out all the Sith. I really am one of the most vital members of this Council. I've done far more good than you have, my Master.

An-Wan Dyas: Your saber, please. Hand it to me.

Traruyn Ura: I'm afraid I cannot allow you to have it. You might use it to kill me. I don't trust you, my Master. In fact, I believe that it is you who are a Sith Lord. And like all the others before you.... I am going to have to make you die. Please forgive me, my Master, as I no longer have a choice.

With that, young apprentice Traruyn Ura ignited his magenta lightsaber.

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Traruyn Ura stood in a Form VII- Juyo stance, and began to center himself.

An-Wan Dyas: What kind of saber stance is that? I know I never taught you something that advanced.

Traruyn Ura: You've failed to teach me a great many things. In order to be a useful and powerful Jedi, I'm afraid I've had to consult other more reliable sources for information. It is the only way I could be of some use to the Jedi Order. Now it is time to say good-bye, my Master.

While the pair were speaking, a third figure emerged from the shadows.

Unknown: Oh, don't let me interrupt. Please, continue.

An-Wan Dyas and Traruyn Ura began to engage each other. The younger, less experienced apprentice was fighting with skill that far surpassed his training, but An-Wan was able to keep up. The advanced Juyo attacks were parried skillfully by the Master's elegant Makashi moves. The younger apprentice was frustrated, and began hacking away at An-Wan with all of his strength, but nothing could break through. After a few minutes of battle, the more powerful An-Wan reached deep into the force, and her speed and strength doubled. Taking her apprentice by surprise, An-Wan broke the magenta lightsaber into pieces, and delivered a swift kick to the face of the young one. He went tumbling down to the deck plating, unarmed.

Unknown: HAHAHAHAHAHA..... goood..... goooooooood. Very good, Master Dyas. Now.... finish him.

An-Wan Dyas: Get up, Traruyn. If a Jedi is to meet his death, they have a right to do it on their feet, with their eyes open.

Traruyn Ura: You're most gracious, Master Dyas. I would welcome the opportunity for you to meet death on your feet.

The younger padawan stood, waiting for An-Wan to deliver the fatal blow, with a smirk on his face. An-Wan swung her lightsaber, and Ura ignited his red lightsaber, and blocked the attack. He began laughing hysterically.

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Traruyn Ura: Now, Master Jedi, it's time for me to teach you a lesson you won't ever forget.

Unknown: Not so fast, "Traruyn". You had your chance, and now it's my turn.

Traruyn Ura: What the :daisy: are you talking about? This kill is MINE!

Unknown: Not if I have anything to say about it.

An-Wan Dyas: This is just not my day....

With a swift motion, the unknown cloaked figure waved its hands, and An-Wan fell to the ground, as if the Force had been cut off from her completely. She had never felt so vulnerable before.

Unknown: And now, Master Dyas.... you will die.

The cloaked figure reached deep into the force, and a massive vortex opened up around An-Wan Dyas. The Dark Vortex continued to swirl and expand until it was a massive, raging maelstrom. The energy of the Force, and all life inside the maelstrom, was being drawn toward the powerful unknown cloaked being. Traruyn Ura dove out of the way to avoid being hit by the attack.

An-Wan felt the life drain out of her, and all was lost. She blacked out.

But then, it all stopped. An-Wan came to, and realized she wasn't dead. She grabbed her lightsaber and stood up, and saw that surrounding her body was a magnificent Wall of Light. The powerful force energy had turned back the power of the maelstrom, and the swirling dark vortex raged outside of the wall of light.

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But where was it coming from? An-Wan had no way of generating such a powerful defense, she had been temporarily severed from the Force. Who had spared her?

The cloaked being raged furiously.

Unknown: YOU MISERABLE WEAKLING!!! I WILL DESTROY YOU, I SWEAR IT!! I SWEAR IT, AN-WAN DYAS, I WILL DESTROY YOU!!! YOU ARE AS GOOD AS DEAD!!!

Traruyn Ura: Looks like it's up to me, once again, to finish what you cannot.

Traruyn reached deep into the Force and began choking An-Wan Dyas. She was lifted up off of the ground, and felt herself grow faint. She could feel her chest being compressed and crushed by powerful forces..... and then....

The wall of light was erected on the other side of Dyas, cutting off the force attack. Dyas crumpled to the ground, mostly unharmed.

Traruyn Ura: NO!!! NO!!!! THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!

The unknown figure fled the scene, leaving Traruyn Ura to fend for himself against An-Wan Dyas.

The Wall of light continued to surround Master Dyas, who felt the Force return to her, as well as her speed and centering. She stood and opened her eyes, and looked at Traruyn Ura with calm determination. She raised a finger and began to wave it back and forth.

An-Wan Dyas: "Tsk, tsk tsk. Much to learn you still have, my young Padawan."

Traruyn held his red lightsaber in a defensive posture, and prepared to turn back the elder Jedi.

Traruyn Ura: This isn't over, my Master. This is just the beginning. You will not live long enough to savor this moment.

With incredible speed and concentration, An-Wan rushed Traruyn Ura and they clashed sabers. The young Sith snarled at An-Wan, beating back the blows, and performing incredible feats of acrobatic skill to avoid being hit with the blade. For a long time they clashed swords, and in the end, An-Wan was slightly faster than Traruyn. With one smooth cut, she nearly decapitated the young Sith, but he ducked just in time, and ignited the other end of his blade and prepared to deliver the finishing blow.

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An-Wan reacted swiftly, by slicing the double-bladed saber in half, and kicking the remaining functional blade out of Traruyn's hands. Traruyn kneeled before the Master Jedi, with a look of pure hatred.

Darth Aggony: You...... you...... wretched little filth! Do it, finish me, you sniveling COWARD! I want you to do it. Nothing would make me happier in all the world, you pathetic squirming sack of maggots.

An-Wan Dyas: "Good-bye, my young friend. I will miss you."

With that, An-Wan Dyas impaled the young Sith in the chest, and he fell over, and soon died. An-Wan put away her lightsaber, and closed the young man's eyes. She walked back to her quarters, alone.

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Sol Jade stood in the command center of the ship, eyes closed, meditating. The Knighting ceremony had gone well. But someone was coming up the turbolift to greet him, he could sense it. As soon as the powerful being stepped off the turbolift, the Grandmaster knew who it was. He centered himself.

With his powerful Force Sight, he could see the approaching cloaked figure in his mind, without even turning around.

Sol Jade: I know you're here, so you might as well not even bother.

Unknown: Sol Jade.... Grandmaster of the Order. And yet, the I sense the Dark Side in you. How can this be, my old friend?

Sol Jade: I know much that is hidden, as apparently you do.

Unknown: You know what I must do. You're under arrest, "your grace".

Sol Jade: I don't think so.

Sol Jade raised his hands and unleashed a powerful blast of Force Light, which reflected off of the cloak, leaving the being unharmed. Sol Jade uttered a low growl of frustration. He drew the twin sabers from his belt and ignited them both, in the Makashi style.

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In response, the unknown attacker reached deep into the Force, and the Grandmaster began to choke. He felt his consciousness drifting from him, as the powerful being was able to break through the Grandmaster's formidable mental defenses. The Grandmaster threw Force Light at his attacker, once again, to no effect. The cloaked being was not harmed by the move.

Sol Jade knew of another way to counter this attack, but he was losing consciousness.... his connection to the Force failed him, and his mind blacked out. His body was slammed against the wall of the command center, and against the other wall.... crushing his chest. But his attacker wasn't finished.

The cloaked figure reached out with both hands, and gripped the Grandmaster tightly, and began slamming the body of the elderly Jedi against the ceiling, and the deck, smashing him over and over and over again, crushing and squeezing the life out of him, and then threw his body against the transparent aluminum windows shielding the front of the command center, killing him instantly.

The deck began to decompress, as the atmosphere blew out of the hole in the transparent aluminum, until the structural integrity force fields engaged, and the room repressurized. Blast shields came down and covered the hole in the hull, further sealing the compartment.

Sol Jade's destroyed remains drifted out into space. He was gone forever.

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Ronen Durdon sensed his attacker approaching, as he sat in the empty cargo bay, meditating. He was focusing his thoughts very deeply, and was able to see a vision of things to come.

Ronen Durdon: I've been waiting for you.

Cloaked figure: ......

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The cloaked figure stood in a Form V stance, and ignited the purple lightsaber.

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Ronen Durdon ignited his blue lightsaber, and stood, ready for the attack, in the familiar Form III: Soresu stance.

Cloaked figure: Still using Soresu? You must have known I'd come prepared for that.

Ronen Durdon: Prepared myself for your arrival, I have. Let us see which of us is the strongest.

The two masters of the blade met, and the aggressive style of the cloaked figure was met with the quick defensive style of Master Durdon. The Master parried all of the aggressor's attacks, seeming very confident, as if anticipating all of the aggressor's movements. This seemed to catch the aggressor off-guard, but the attacker pressed onward with renewed vigor and attempted to misdirect Durdon with a mind trick.

Durdon was not distracted by this move, and in fact reached deeper into the Force, and concentrated his strength, becoming doubly powerful. The advantage became overwhelming, and soon, Master Durdon was able to break the attacker's lightsaber in half.

Unfazed, the attacker unleashed a terrible blast of Force Lightning at Master Durdon, which caught him off-guard. It knocked the master to the ground. Pressing the attack, more Force Lightning was shot at Durdon, who screamed in agony.

Reaching out with the Force, master Durdon unleashed a massive whirlwind of the Force at his attacker, which slammed the cloaked being against the walls of the cargo bay and against the deck. But even though this move caused the cloaked figure to stagger, it unleashed another blast of Force Lightning at Master Durdon. Reacting quickly, Durdon raised his lightsaber in defense of his body.

Using the Soresu stance, Master Durdon held the saber close to his body, at just the right angle, and concentrated. The strength of his body and mind enabled him to steady himself, and through the pain, he was able to use his saber as a lightning rod. The powerful torrents of Force Lightning were all now being channeled directly into his glowing blue blade.

He began advancing on his attacker, with a determined expression on his face. The Force Lightning continued, but none of it was hitting Master Durdon. Master Durdon attempted to angle his blade so that the Force Lightning would be re-directed back towards his attacker. The cloaked being raised its hands and deflected it away from his body, causing the computer control panel in the corner of the cargo bay to explode, and the outer bay doors began to open, as alarms started blaring.

Showing some frustration, the cloaked attacker abandoned the broken lightsaber and the victorious Durdon, and fled the scene intact.

Master Durdon put away his saber, and reached out with the Force to close the outer bay doors. He sighed with relief. He was still alive.

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Skooma Addict2- Kin Barr

Skooma Addict was a Jedi Padawan!

He was Jedi!

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Belisarius II- Sol Jade

Belisarius II was the Grandmaster of the Jedi Order!

He was a Dark Jedi (Neutral).

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Ironside- Traruyn Ura

Ironside was a Jedi Padawan!

Ironside was a Sith Apprentice! He was Sith!

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Darth Aggony

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Ronen Durdon- Grandmaster of the Jedi Order

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In the morning, everyone was surprised to see that Ronen Durdon had an announcement. It seemed as though Sol Jade had been slain in the night, and left a hologram message for everyone to see.

Sol Jade: In the event of my death, the following Masters will be considered as my replacement. At the top of the list, is Master Ronen Durdon....

Grandmaster Ronen Durdon: "It is my sad duty to replace our fallen leader, Grandmaster Sol Jade. However, I understand and welcome the responsibilities I have been given. I sense that our former Grandmaster had fallen to the Dark Side, but how far he had fallen, I do not know. What I do know is that he was NOT a Sith, and some of the records show that he had been acting in our best interest. I haven't fully read the logs recorded in the Jedi Holocron, but it seems at the end, he had chosen the Light Side over the Dark. Because of this, he leaves behind a mixed legacy. He may have broken the Jedi Code, but it would be a stretch to call him a being of evil. If he had indeed returned to the Light, we have lost a powerful ally indeed.

That being said, one of the bodies found last night was Traruyn Ura, or as some logs found in his room indicate, Darth Aggony. He seemed to be a lesser Sith, possibly an apprentice. That means the Master still lives. If we can destroy the Master, then I know we will have made some progress.

We also lost Padawan Kin Barr last night. This young one was definitely one of us, and had committed no crimes. Her loss will be deeply felt by all who knew her. I have much to do. The Jedi Holocron has much data on it I need to analyze. Please excuse me while I go study it.

Find me the Sith, let us finish this once and for all!"

With that, the Jedi began their discussion.

ANNOUNCEMENT:

There have been promotions in Rank.

Jedi Grandmaster Ronen Durdon
Jedi Master Sky Yi'do
Jedi Knight Brie-ang Gis
Jedi Knight Carnus Daye
Jedi Knight Driz Foun
Jedi Knight Gith Ranay
Jedi Knight Jinn Lun-yz
Jedi Knight Kel Dih-mar
Jedi Knight Keyeren Arva Sun
Jedi Knight Ku-vect Belthon
Jedi Knight Land Jamgii
Jedi Knight Le'ran Iss
Jedi Knight Loris Midal
Jedi Knight Malious de Wal
Jedi Knight On-so C'ba
Jedi Knight Pal Winoff
Jedi Knight Rivan Nul
Jedi Knight Shi-la ra
Jedi Knight Sio Eroseeth
Jedi Knight Taung Eeda
Jedi Knight Ushi Makoth
Jedi Knight Wen Kidou
Jedi Knight Xando Caecilius

As any observant person might guess, that means no one is an initiate or a padawan anymore. You are all now considered full Jedi, and given the circumstances, you are now all officially on the Jedi Council.

Alive: (34/68)

a completely inoffensive name
AntiKingWarmancake
Autolycus
Beefy187
ByzantineKnight
Captain Blackadder
Cecil XIX
Chaotix
Csargo
Cultured Drizzt fan Replaced by Sasaki Kojiro2
Cute Wolf Replaced by Yaseikhaan2
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ignoramus
Jarema
Jolt Replaced by Tincow2
Joooray
Kagemusha
Khazaar
Link Replaced by ArpeggiateTHIS2
Major Robert Dump Replaced by Slysnake2
Nightbringer
Niklas Replaced by Yaropolk2
Psychonaut
Renata
Robbiecon
Secura Replaced by Zack2
Seon
TheFlax Replaced by Raskolnikov2
wideyedwanderer
Winston Hughes Replaced by Double A2

Force Ghost: (1/68)

pevergreen- Jedi Master Jacin Sky (Killed Night Four)

Dead: (32/68)

Raskolnikov- Jedi Initiate Mas Amdu Kof (Killed Day One)
Slysnake- Jedi Initiate Kerren Cae (Killed Night One)
Stuck in Pi- Jedi Initiate Si-At Unesh (Killed Night One)
Double A- Jedi Initiate Mun Farlander (Killed Day Two)
Zack- Jedi Initiate Yogal Sec-barr (Killed Night Two)
Yaropolk- Jedi Initiate Yala Edak (Killed Day Three)
Sasaki Kojiro- Jedi Initiate Sec-sar Jor (Killed Night Three)
Skooma Addict- Jedi Initiate Ker-oth Ex (Killed Night Three)
Yaseikhaan- Jedi Initiate Kaz'an Neimoidian (Killed Night Three)
Tincow- Jedi Initiate Lo'son Galeb (Killed Day Four)
ArpeggiateTHIS- Jedi Initiate Azurine Kadu (Killed Night Four)
YLC- Jedi Initiate Drafo Tylum (Killed Day Five)
spL1tp3r50naL1ty- Jedi Initiate Ker'ral Fisid (Killed Night Five)
Sigurd- Jedi Initiate Cah Andwal (Killed Day Six)
Sprig- Jedi Initiate Qui Ul'pat (Killed Night Six)
Andres- Jedi Initiate Stre-don Rett (Killed Night Six)
Rebel Jeb- Jedi Knight Ushan Nihlek (Killed Night Six)
Beskar- Jedi Initiate Jax Revus Sith Apprentice Darth Fermanagh (Killed Night Six)
Askthepizzaguy- Jedi Grandmaster Nomi Sunrider (Killed Night Six)
Ibn-Khaldun- Jedi Padawan Gall Rado (Killed Night Seven)
Classical_hero- Jedi Padawan Mar-ial Nih Pho (Killed Night Seven)
Johnhughthom- Jedi Padawan Taun Jan (Killed Night Seven)
dcmort93- Jedi Knight Mace Wyyrlar (Killed Night Seven)
landlubber- Jedi Knight Jenn Gon Rui (Killed Night Eight)
remake20- Jedi Padawan Rian-ban Fo (Killed Night Eight)
Stuck in Pi2- Jedi Padawan Ana Riya (Killed Night Eight)
Nictel- Jedi Padawan Nor Stry-hoth (Killed Night Nine)
Death is yonder- Jedi Padawan Datian Guus (Killed Night Nine)
Choxorn- Jedi Knight Mill Kunaay (Killed Night Nine)
Skooma Addict2- Jedi Padawan Kin Barr (Killed Night Ten)
Belisarius II- Dark Jedi Grandmaster Sol Jade (Killed Night Ten)
Ironside- Jedi Padawan Traruyn Ura Sith Apprentice Darth Aggony (Killed Night Ten)

Will of the Force: (1/68)

Romanic- Jedi Initiate Pla-den Krul (WOGed Night Three)

FURTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS (READ, PLEASE)

I will send out quick results for everyone, and you'll get a full PM upgrade as fast as I can get them out, which may not be very fast at all.

Reminder: Many people got promoted to Jedi Knight. If you were, you must send me the following, and DO NOT FORGET. Choose a new saber form to add to your knowledge, which you can use instead of the one you were previously using (Choose from the remaining forms you do not know, any one of the following-

Form I
Form II
Form III
Form IV
Form V
Form VI

Also, while you're at it, tell me if you wish to specialize or remain balanced.

Learn mostly Lightsaber abilities
Learn mostly Force abilities
Remain balanced

If you tell me nothing, you won't get a new saber power (tough luck for not paying attention and not bothering to play) and you will remain balanced.

EVEN MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS (READ, PLEASE)

This round ends when 48 hours have passed, or if 24 hours have passed and I have 25 people voting. Why? Because participation at this point should be the whole reason why you're playing. I want to see you voting. I'm going to WOG all inactive people from this point on, without exception, unless you tell me why ahead of time. I've been super lenient, about a great many things. That leniency ends today and now. Have fun, but no more inactivity. 5 rounds of no vote and you cease to exist. :evil: And the Sith will remind me if people have been inactive, because they want you dead.

Replacements will be rare and under extraordinary circumstances. 10 rounds of play have happened, this isn't the beginning of the game anymore. I have YLC on standby if I need to replace someone, but my default action is to make the character die. Fair warning.

Remember: The order in which you send in your actions, first and second, matter. It's in the how to play (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053219085&viewfull=1#post2053219085) section of the game, you should re-read it. This is the last time I'm going to do the courtesy of reminding you.
Remember: If you do not specify a target for your active power, it won't happen, and it will fail. No exceptions, from here on out, for any reason.

Sasaki Kojiro

11-25-2010, 07:09

First Place

WEW: (11) Nightbringer, Joooray, Yaropolk, Ironside, Skooma Addict, Cecil XIX, WEW, Diana Abnoba, ArpeggiateTHIS, Chaotix, Ignoramus

Second Place

Chaotix: (6) Beefy187, Yaseikhaan, Sasaki, Psychonaut, Captain Blackadder, Tincow

My thought after the lynch was that there were a lot of questionable people on the WEW lynch...

Also, ironside and belisarius were both lurkers (though I'm unclear on belisarius's badness). Combination points me to skooma, cecil, and arpegg (actually skooma is dead already).

arpeggiate 11
Romanic 11
WEW 11
soup 11
jht 11
Ironside 10
Classical hero 10
greyblades 8
khazaar 8
slysnake 8
belisarius 7
cecil 6
winston 5
remake 4
skooma 4

Will see if I can dig up cecil's posts.

Ignoramus

11-25-2010, 07:09

:bow:

Thank you random.org.

Sasaki Kojiro

11-25-2010, 07:16

In.

I'm not certain what Sasaki's motive's are for role-claiming, but unvoting without revoting like Yaropolk did is rediculous. Now's not the time for those games.

vote: Yaropolk.

If Ignoramus seems okay, than that leaves vote:YLC

If I had to guess, I'd say Igno revived Beskar as a distraction. But pevergeen straight up announcing that Sigurd is a Sith Lord is just too hard to ignore.

vote: Sigurd.

vote: dcmort. Can't blame pevergreen for Sigurd based on the conversation they had.

vote: wideyedwanderer. Between the three, he has the worst defense.

Stickign with vote:wideyedwonderer for now.

Besides the lurking what stands out to me is the things like "between the three, he has the worst defense" which would suggest careful and intense reading, and yet he posts very infrequently.

dcmort93

11-25-2010, 07:20

Not only does he post infrequently, he is also one of the last people to vote on a bandwagon from what I've seen

Captain Blackadder

11-25-2010, 08:17

Vote Cecil XIX

He is either scum or a very unhelpfull townie both of which deserve death.

Nightbringer

11-25-2010, 08:44

i agree with the cecil xix vote but i still think
vote:wideyedwanderer

i dont see the point in voting someone only to see they have force breath then ignoring them, no reason a sith couldn't have it, a sith probably would have it.

Sasaki Kojiro

11-25-2010, 08:51

Sasaki Kojiro

11-25-2010, 08:51

vote:Cecil XIX

Nightbringer

11-25-2010, 09:02

:book:

ohh, good point, i should have read more carefully.
and that was early on in the bandwagon, ok, i guess i was likely wrong on WeW, he is just a townie that has acted rather suspicious

unvote, vote:Cecil XIX
the reasons arn't dissimilar from those on WeW, so lets see how this goes.

Sasaki Kojiro

11-25-2010, 09:06

I appreciate it, but fos:nightbringer because the tone of the mind-changing reminds me of scum in a recent game.

Askthepizzaguy

11-25-2010, 09:12

Choxorn

11-25-2010, 09:25

:bow:

Thank you random.org.

Are you attacking people at random? :p

Chaotix

11-25-2010, 09:32

The Grandmaster was a Dark Jedi?

And Joooray, his successor, is likely one as well.

Good job on Ignoramus for getting a Sith; I'd say there's very little chance he's not on our side now. I'd be interested to hear if he has any idea on who the Master is.

I'll go with Cecil for now, but I may change my vote later this phase.

Vote: Cecil XIX

Nightbringer

11-25-2010, 09:40

The Grandmaster was a Dark Jedi?

And Joooray, his successor, is likely one as well.

Maybe he is, but i got the feeling that it had more to do with dark knowledge than killing, (especially since sol jade didnt kill). however, i still agree that the new jedi master is likely to go dark jedi. I remember that pizza said the information passed on my Noami was dangerous, and i have a feeling it could be corrupting, i would encourage the new grand master to think carefully before looking at it (if that is an option). i definitely dont think we should just start voting jooray because of this though

I appreciate it, but fos:nightbringer because the tone of the mind-changing reminds me of scum in a recent game.

sorry you see it that way, but i am just a practitioner of the scientific method, if i am faced with strong factual evidence that what i believe is wrong, i will concede my point.

Ironside

11-25-2010, 09:42

Also, ironside and belisarius were both lurkers (though I'm unclear on belisarius's badness). Combination points me to skooma, cecil, and arpegg (actually skooma is dead already).

For future game reference, about one post a day is my prefered posting amount.

:bow:

Thank you random.org.

Luckier than you think.

And lusting for the dark side are you? Random vig kills? Planning to join the dark jedi are you?

No matter, my master will kill you all anyway.

Edit:

Are you attacking people at random? :p

Yes, see at the colour of my defensive saber. And "she" was searching me out.

Beefy187

11-25-2010, 09:51

I'm about 90 percent sure that Sasaki and Captain Blackadder is innocent or has been innocent so far.
But I cannot agree with Cecil lynch.

1.because Chaotix is on the wagon and I still think Chaotix is scummy
2.because I have this theory. If one of the member on their team is inactive, others will be active. Just to balance things out.
3.because it would be a shame to lose another lynch opportunity with force breath.

I think many people by now have force breath. So to lynch someone we must lynch them twice.
I don't think Cecil case is strong enough to get him lynched twice. Its much quicker to ask our vigilantes to take care of him.

I will Vote: Chaotix as his been scummy constantly.
His last post was scummy as well.

Askthepizzaguy

11-25-2010, 09:52

Nightbringer

11-25-2010, 09:53

Everyone now has their "quick" updates, 3 hours later.

If you're missing information contact me privately.

I need rest before I completely restructure all your Padawan-Knight role PMs. This is getting Resident Evil: Dark Falls-ian in scope. Pizza breaking a sweat now.

Are the writeups still good?

YES THEY ARE!

a joy to read as always pizza, dont worry

Diamondeye

11-25-2010, 09:54

Silent sith is silent :stare:
I think the suspicion of Cecil is sound, but frankly, can't we count on the WOG to get rid of those who are not really playing the game? 6 posts the entire game - really?
I'd much prefer if we could, say, vote: Diana Abnoba, for now.

Also, pevergreen, since you are already doing information-gathering dribbles, have you taken the time to note down the names of everyone? It should be possible to know the names of everyone expect those who started out as Jedi Masters (if that's possible, I wouldn't know) and who have not been promoted to Grand Master. Everyone else should've been mentioned publically at one point or another now (due to promotions, at least).

Csargo

11-25-2010, 10:48

Everyone now has their "quick" updates, 3 hours later.

If you're missing information contact me privately.

I need rest before I completely restructure all your Padawan-Knight role PMs. This is getting Resident Evil: Dark Falls-ian in scope. Pizza breaking a sweat now.

Are the writeups still good?

If you were a cupcake, I'd eat you all in one bite.

Vote:Cecil XIX is a good lynch, but so is Diana. I'll stick with Cecil though.

naut

11-25-2010, 10:48

Silent sith is silent :stare:
I think the suspicion of Cecil is sound, but frankly, can't we count on the WOG to get rid of those who are not really playing the game? 6 posts the entire game - really?
I'd much prefer if we could, say, vote: Diana Abnoba, for now.
You don't want to vote for someone who is lurking with 6 posts, but you'll gladly vote for someone who is lurking with 13 posts and has said they're busy IRL. Mind-boggling logic.

I'm going back to the gut feeling I had early on:

FoS: Diamondeye

Something is DEEPLY TROUBLING with his posts and the interactions he's had with others. I don't like it. My bones don't like it.

vote: Diamondeye

pevergreen

11-25-2010, 10:54

Also, pevergreen, since you are already doing information-gathering dribbles, have you taken the time to note down the names of everyone? It should be possible to know the names of everyone expect those who started out as Jedi Masters (if that's possible, I wouldn't know) and who have not been promoted to Grand Master. Everyone else should've been mentioned publically at one point or another now (due to promotions, at least).

Every pm i have relating to this game is still in my inbox.
However there was no public call for me to actually get involved, so I have nothing written down. Nearly every time I send a PM I hope what i've written is true.

I have probably like 6-8 names of people that are alive. 90%+ of people arent talking to me. The ones that are, well I'm not revealing them am I.

Regardless, Cecil is not a good lynch.

I was suspicious of him a while ago, I ran a check on him. He also sent me his name and abilities when everyone else was. He is town.

I'm waiting on results from a few people, but don't be surprised if I vote someone odd for the lynch.

Regardless, names and usernames are only matched on reveal/death/lynch etc. So its not too useful.

Joooray is now the Jedi Grand Master. This is not good. We now have confirmed that there are Dark Jedi, and that they have a choice of sides basically. Joooray is close to, if not already one of them. He is getting more powerful.

Please, whoever protected Ig last night, talk to me.

Another plea of anyone who has investigative or vigilante powers to let me know.

I've got account of all the kills but one, I don't know who the yellow lightsabre dude is.

Askthepizzaguy

11-25-2010, 11:08

If you were a cupcake, I'd eat you all in one bite.

Mmm.... sounds tempting, but this probably isn't the place to discuss this. Private chat then? :kiss:

Andres

11-25-2010, 11:23

Silent sith is silent :stare:
I think the suspicion of Cecil is sound, but frankly, can't we count on the WOG to get rid of those who are not really playing the game? 6 posts the entire game - really?
I'd much prefer if we could, say, vote: Diana Abnoba, for now.

You don't want to vote for someone who is lurking with 6 posts, but you'll gladly vote for someone who is lurking with 13 posts and has said they're busy IRL. Mind-boggling logic.

I'm going back to the gut feeling I had early on:

vote: Diamondeye

Psychonaut has a valid point.

Ignoramus

11-25-2010, 11:56

Thanks to whoever saved me. Pever, if you need to contact me for any jobs please do so.

a completely inoffensive name

11-25-2010, 12:01

You are welcome Ignoramus. I didn't save you, but I will take the credit anyway. You are all welcome for me saving Ignoramus.

Andres

11-25-2010, 12:06

a completely inoffensive name

11-25-2010, 12:17

Thnx ACIN, you're a true hero :smitten:

Maybe we should lynch you, as I don't recall you having made one serious post in this game... Being the funny guy is not necessarily a scumtell, but you avoiding to make a serious post from beginning 'til mid-game is starting to smelly fishy...

:inquisitive:

You know what smells really fishy? How with all these people making "serious" posts, we still managed to find ourselves at half crew here (34) and not have killed one Sith master. Oh we killed apprentices, and yet we have not come near to catching the master, even worse, about three leads ended up having us kill three innocent jedi.

Like I have said before, I hold that I am benefiting us in the long run with my jokes more than any of you serious players. none of my jokes killed half the players without a lead on the sith master.

EDIT: Also everytime I hear someone claim that we should kill a known townie for being "annoying" or a "pest" or "not serious" imo makes them inherently suspicious because why would you even think about wasting an entire round on killing a townie unless you are in fact mafia.

EDIT2: How is that for a serious post?

Choxorn

11-25-2010, 12:19

Yes, see at the colour of my defensive saber. And "she" was searching me out.

What? I was talking to Iggy, not you, what the heck are you talking about?

Ignoramus

11-25-2010, 13:54

I'm more persuaded that Diamondeye is the more suspicious out of him and Cecil, although both are suspicious. Perhaps it would be good to make them duel? That way, we're almost guaranteed to eliminate someone, whereas if we vote for one of them we may be frustrated with Force Breath.

Ergo, Vote: Diamondeye

Andres

11-25-2010, 13:57

You know what smells really fishy? How with all these people making "serious" posts, we still managed to find ourselves at half crew here (34) and not have killed one Sith master. Oh we killed apprentices, and yet we have not come near to catching the master, even worse, about three leads ended up having us kill three innocent jedi.

Like I have said before, I hold that I am benefiting us in the long run with my jokes more than any of you serious players. none of my jokes killed half the players without a lead on the sith master.

EDIT: Also everytime I hear someone claim that we should kill a known townie for being "annoying" or a "pest" or "not serious" imo makes them inherently suspicious because why would you even think about wasting an entire round on killing a townie unless you are in fact mafia.

EDIT2: How is that for a serious post?

It sounds very aggressive and defensive and therefore could be interpreted as scummy.

Maybe you should stop with posting serious, it'll get you lynched faster than making funny posts :laugh4:

autolycus

11-25-2010, 14:19

I think Cecil XIX is indeed fairly suspicious. I therefore appeal to him to not vote today, so as to be destroyed by the Will of the Force, and not make us spend a vote on him. If he does vote, he should be vigged tonight or killed tomorrow. Psychonaut's point makes sense, so vote:Diamondeye.

Kagemusha

11-25-2010, 14:33

autolycus

11-25-2010, 14:49

pevergreen

11-25-2010, 14:59

I'd rather Cecil XIX let the Will of the Force take him quietly. If he will not do that, it seems pretty clear that the will of the Council be that he die. I don't particularly see that it matters whether that be by being flung out of an airlock or stabbed with a lightsaber.

Last post by autolycus was, without a doubt, the worst reasoning ever. Rest assured that I was on the internet within minutes, registering my disgust throughout the world.

pevergreen

11-25-2010, 15:07

Double posteru!

Vote: Diamondeye

Double investigation (not by anyone who has given info in anything else) says the light side is weak in him.

Along with in-thread behaviour...

Edit:

here:

"name, The Light side is not strong with this one."

"name, The Light side is present, but weak, in this one."

Seon

11-25-2010, 15:53

Is that not even worse indicator of guilt than all other jedis we lynched due to a detective scan? At least others said 'i fear the dark side is already present in this one,' rather than 'lightside is present here, but weak.'

God Emperor

11-25-2010, 16:00

perhaps I am wrong, but didn't Diamondeye claim forcebreath at a very early stage of the game? If so, then it would be a wasted lynch.
I don't know what private communications Diamondeye have had, but apparently you do Psychonaut. What is it in those private communications that you did not like?

@ pevergreen , you may know how scan results work.. but do these you show not say he has the light site present in him? or are these results different from other scans you have seen? Because they remind me of scan results for Tincow in the very start.

Vote: Chaotix I can't help but feel he scum since the very early part of this game.

ArpeggiateTHIS

11-25-2010, 16:03

Khazaar

11-25-2010, 16:06

pevergreen

11-25-2010, 16:12

@ Peever: You had two investigaters on one person tonight? Do you have a list of results that you can publish? How about people that should have been Wogged but haven´t. I still think TinCow should have never gotten that role, rather the role should have been removed by ATPG. So why didn´t that happen?

Vote: TinCow
No idea what you are saying here.
Last two nights a person has investigated DE.

@ pevergreen , you may know how scan results work.. but do these you show not say he has the light site present in him? or are these results different from other scans you have seen? Because they remind me of scan results for Tincow in the very start.

The way these are worded are unique to any other scan result I have received so far. No other scan has talked about light side.

seireikhaan

11-25-2010, 17:08

I think I'll go with Psycho/pever on this. Diamondeye should know by now about relying on WoG, 'specially in a game with so many replacements. :stare:

Vote: Diamondeye

Andres

11-25-2010, 17:38

Vote : DiamondEye

See if my gut feeling in the beginning of the game was right. If so, then I'm done with analysing posts and I will from now on, in every future mafia game I play, try to get people lynched based on a vague gut feeling and something as random as "he was the last one who posted prior before my first post of the day", by making nonsensic posts.

God Emperor

11-25-2010, 18:00

perhaps I am wrong, but didn't Diamondeye claim forcebreath at a very early stage of the game? If so, then it would be a wasted lynch.

I just read Diamondeye's posts and he did claim force breath. Why is this going completely ignored Arpeg, Yaseikhaan and Andres? are your goals to waste this lynch?

Ironside

11-25-2010, 18:36

What? I was talking to Iggy, not you, what the heck are you talking about?

Well, there are certain restrictions post-mortem, but I wanted to avoid a certain misunderstanding (that I did for a short while), that was easier for me to make than for the rest of you.

Why was Igno openly showed as my killer, unlike every other attacker? What scenario could cause both players to show up with their name?

So Igno started to trust random.org for some violent night activilities directly after the pressure on him dropped. And didn't expect his name in the open. Recruited to the dark jedi is he? Oh, yes he is.

Come to think about it, that means that my jedi name would be bad buissness even if I survived. Ah well, didn't expect to live until the end anyway.

Interesting that Belisarius didn't get a force ghost. A sign of conflicting emotions perhaps?

So 3 dark jedi (considering the third vigi attack) and one suspected grandmaster. That part is going to be amusing. Aiming for a draw or a victory pever?

Chaotix

11-25-2010, 18:37

I just read Diamondeye's posts and he did claim force breath. Why is this going completely ignored Arpeg, Yaseikhaan and Andres? are your goals to waste this lynch?

On another note- Arpeg was another one of those lurkers on Sasaki's suspicion list. Perhaps for once Sasaki could be getting things right. Let's push for the Cecil lynch and keep an eye on Arpeg.

EDIT: Ironside, are you and Beskar on the same side?

Frozen In Ice

11-25-2010, 19:01

To me it seems that Choatix is trying to deflect suspicion in any way possible to someone other than him. And on the other side of things those scans make Diamondeye seem like he is a Dark Jedi that has force breath. I'm going to go with the former for now. vote: Chaotix

ArpeggiateTHIS

11-25-2010, 19:24

On another note- Arpeg was another one of those lurkers on Sasaki's suspicion list. Perhaps for once Sasaki could be getting things right. Let's push for the Cecil lynch and keep an eye on Arpeg.

Have none of you noticed that I just replaced link? Like, literally last round? Check the list if you want, my name is firmly there as "ArpeggiateTHIS2".

EDIT: And GE, what do you suggest we do about Diamondeye then, let him walk free? Who else do you suppose we go for?

Nightbringer

11-25-2010, 19:36

ugh, i have no idea what to vote.
pever, im going to trust you and unvote cecil,
but i don't think those scan results show diomondeye as sith, i think they show that he could easily turn to dark jedi.
so i wont vote diamondeye

Arpeg's last post struck me as very odd,

I suppose there is only one logical action that can follow this post: Vote: Diamondeye
he is following a vague investigation result without question, and stating it as the absolute right thing to do.

but he just replaced someone who was wogged, so he is not likely sith.

chaotix is either very very skilled or isnt sith, his posts just really havent struck me that way, of course, my instincts havent worked too well so far, so im not going to suggest you dont vote for him, in fact, i think maybe ill ues a little crowd behavior this time and go with vote:chaotix

if others have been seeing so much skum in him for so long maybe i should trust them, especially since my instinct have been off and i dont know who else to vote.
i would feel a LOT better if someone could do a post and vote analysis on chaotix though.

Diamondeye

11-25-2010, 20:00

You don't want to vote for someone who is lurking with 6 posts, but you'll gladly vote for someone who is lurking with 13 posts and has said they're busy IRL. Mind-boggling logic.
I'm going back to the gut feeling I had early on.
vote: Diamondeye

What's mind-boggling about the expectation that Cecil will be WoGed whilst Diana will not? It's my assesment that this is what's going to happen. Therefore, my vote.

You are welcome Ignoramus. I didn't save you, but I will take the credit anyway. You are all welcome for me saving Ignoramus.

Truly a job well done, ACIN! Thank you!

Double posteru!

Vote: Diamondeye

Double investigation (not by anyone who has given info in anything else) says the light side is weak in him.

Along with in-thread behaviour...

Edit:

here:

"name, The Light side is not strong with this one."

"name, The Light side is present, but weak, in this one."

This was the case with Joooray's results on several innocent lynches. I can tell you that this is no different; I suppose it makes sense that they would get results like this even though I have never taken a night action apart from selecting defensive powers; I have no active night actions yet.
This is as much as I am going to reveal - I hope it's enough to convince people that we should lynch someone else:
-I am a newly promoted Jedi Knight.
-I have no active abilities yet, but several active defenses. I am not going to reveal what powers they are as that will make me an easy target.
-I have asked ATPG several times about when/if I will be able to vigilante-kill. This may be why the results carry the connotation they do.
-I am not going to reveal my name publically. It will be revealed when I am attempted lynched. If someone else is lynched, I'll PM it to pevergreen.
-My claim of Force Breath is true; in order to lynch me to death, we need to waste not one but two lynches. I suggest we stop before the first.

Vote : DiamondEye

See if my gut feeling in the beginning of the game was right. If so, then I'm done with analysing posts and I will from now on, in every future mafia game I play, try to get people lynched based on a vague gut feeling and something as random as "he was the last one who posted prior before my first post of the day", by making nonsensic posts.

Ah, yes, I remember your case on me from the early game. Stop talking to ACIN about serious posts because :daisy:, yours were silly as well. Pics of flying pigs?

I am keeping with my vote on Diana but I won't hide the fact that I'm suspicious of ACIN as well as a couple of the others on the DE-wagon.

TinCow

11-25-2010, 20:14

At tgiving with family and posting from phone, so you'll have to forgive my brevity.

vote: Cecil xix

Too hard to analyze from phone, following sasaki's lead.

God Emperor

11-25-2010, 20:25

EDIT: And GE, what do you suggest we do about Diamondeye then, let him walk free? Who else do you suppose we go for?

If we are speaking lynch then yes. Let him go, because I am against lynching a person with force breath. There are plenty of night killers in this game, and if they deem him guilty, then attack him. . No matter what, lynches are to work in town favour so using a lynch against a known force breath person, without trying out night kills first, is pointless.

As for votes.. I think Cecil is a fine vote. My own vote is on Chaotix, and I believe it will stay there. Andres is a person I would keep an eye on

robbiecon

11-25-2010, 21:32

Vote: CecilXIX, because I don't trust pevergreen's informants, who've been wrong in the past. We will FoS:diamondeye for the future though, as if the information is correct, he may turn to Sith in the future.

Sasaki Kojiro

11-25-2010, 21:54

No way are we lynching diamondeye.

ArpeggiateTHIS

11-25-2010, 21:59

Arpeg's last post struck me as very odd,

he is following a vague investigation result without question, and stating it as the absolute right thing to do.

Aye, twas quite odd. Perhaps I should have questioned pever's sources rather than defer to his whole "died and came back" goodness; he may just be being manipulated.

Either way, it seems before I got subbed back in that a more than enough wasted lynches took place, so Unvote; Vote: Chaotix. Blatant OMGUS and lemming vote, but his posts do seem rather odd.

Seon

11-25-2010, 22:06

Nightbringer

11-25-2010, 22:19

i agree, i have been beginning to feel very suspicious of pever, could you post those quotes maybe?

Cecil XIX

11-25-2010, 22:23

It seems the chief point against me is inactivity. Sasaki is right that this is a conscious strategy on my part, it was born of two considerations, chiefly that since this is my first Mafia game I wanted to play it safe and keep a low profile and secondly that I am not the type of person who posts very much to begin with. One look at my post count and join date is enough to verify the second point. The best evidence I have to support my innocence is that I am Xando Caecilius, and that I was attacked just like any other townie, and defended myself like one.

By my unnofficial count Diamondeye, myself and Chaotix are all tied at six, so I'm breaking the tie with vote: Chaotix. I agree with God Emperor's argument against lynching Diamondeye, although I also believe pevergreen's results indicate that Diamondeye is a Dark Jedi. Diamondeye is a good vig target, but it's not a good use of our time to lynch someone who claims Force Breath.

Seon

11-25-2010, 22:23

i agree, i have been beginning to feel very suspicious of pever, could you post those quotes maybe?

With pleasure.

Unknown: "You cannot hide forever, Sky... Give yourself to the Dark Side. It is the only way you can save your friends."

Jacin Sky: ........

Unknown: "Your thoughts betray you. Your feelings for them are strong. Especially for..... Sunrider...."

Jacin Sky: ........

Unknown: "So... you have feelings for Miss Sunrider. Your feelings have now betrayed her too. Now your failure is complete."

Jacin Sky: ........

Unknown: "Most Impressive. That power comes from the Dark Side of the Force. Perhaps you would make a powerful ally.... if you would only give yourself to me."

Jarema

11-25-2010, 22:27

I still believe that we should all reveal our names to Pever

Another thing - vote: Jooray

Diamondeye

11-25-2010, 22:31

Seon, the first quote is obviously wordplay on the actual scene out of the movies. The second one is interesting, though.
Also; I'm glad someone's listening, but I must maintain that I'm innocent; there is no need to vigilante kill me.
Besides, it seems the chief reason to get rid of me is that I have hinted that I wanted to be a vigilante killer myself, and this would turn me to the dark side. Own goal much?
Which reminds me. Keep an eye on Joooray.

Joooray

11-25-2010, 23:26

As you are aware, I'm the Grandmaster now. Being exposed the way I am already I feel it is my duty to give the town some information I gained through the Jedi Holocron. Especially since my alignment has been questioned and I fear I won't hold my position long when the Sith actually decide to attack me (the attacks on me so far were most likely by the vigilante "sanctioned" by pever, which on it's own I find disturbing).

Anyway, first thing, yes Sol was a Dark Jedi, but the Jedi Holocron explicitly states that he tried to turn back to the light side.
As it has been suggested one can fall from the Light Side by vig killing Jedis. So it seems this has also pushed me closer to the Dark Side, but I do my best to redeem myself. As it stands I strongly discourage vig kills! This won't make the work of the town any easier, with all those people able to survive lynches, but if it means there are more people in danger of falling to the Dark Side, it can not be encouraged. Only under certain circumstances should it be used, e.g. if it seems certain the target is Sith. Finally, there is a way back to the light side by doing heroic and good deeds, as long as you haven't become a Sith yet.

As also has been suggested, there is indeed a third party, The Dark One (judging from Iron's post, the Sith are aware of his presence). The Sith and the Dark One are not allied and from what I can decipher from the holocron, they are not able to win together but are actually enemies. Both the Dark One and the Sith Master can not be found through normal investigations. Also the Dark One has the ability to revive Sith, which will make it difficult to get rid of them if the Dark One isn't killed first. Finally in order to kill the Sith effectively the Master has to be killed before the apprentice, because the master can easily recruit another apprentice. The Apprentice will become the master after his master's death, but will for a short while have a harder time finding a new recruit.

One last comment to Sol's death, if I read the write-up correctly Sol was killed by a vigilante. And it's not merely the Saber I base that assumption on. Not cool, not cool at all! :no:

I'm not sure I can make the town trust me again, but I will try my best. As it stands right now, I believe I will be a prime target of the Sith. As that I hope I can convince some people to protect me during the night, especially the one that protected Iggy last night. I know I can help the town and I will do so to my best abilities. Being exposed the way I am, I will continue to give as much information as possible, within the limits of not giving things away to the Sith as well.

Seon

11-25-2010, 23:35

"Normal" investigations?

Is there "abnormal" investigations?

Frozen In Ice

11-25-2010, 23:36

Seon

11-25-2010, 23:47

Didn't pever's character try to spare his opponent's life in that fight on the first day? That doesn't particularly scream someone who would go dark side after he died. To me having a force ghost change alignment after death seems a bit ridiculous. This makes me suspect Seon, we should keep an eye on that one.

And why does that sound so ridiculous? You must agree that pever's actions as of recent was a tad bit strange, suddenly accusing the Diamondeyedone using investigation result that has been proven false so many times. In fact, if anything, the investigation result that pever cited was even weaker than the evidence cited against the other two whom we lynched. Although he claimed that Diamondye seemed suspiscious, I saw no signs of him being so. is there any reason to vote Diamondeye other than gut feeling?

Askthepizzaguy

11-25-2010, 23:56

Vote : DiamondEye

Vote?

You dead, my friend.

This wouldn't be an attempt at tally manipulation, would it? As there is a rule against it.... :evil:

Frozen In Ice

11-26-2010, 00:03

And why does that sound so ridiculous? You must agree that pever's actions as of recent was a tad bit strange, suddenly accusing the Diamondeyedone using investigation result that has been proven false so many times. In fact, if anything, the investigation result that pever cited was even weaker than the evidence cited against the other two whom we lynched. Although he claimed that Diamondye seemed suspiscious, I saw no signs of him being so. is there any reason to vote Diamondeye other than gut feeling?

While I agree with you that the Diamondeye vote based on those scans is a bad idea, these scans are more specific than the older ones, so I could see why pever might have wanted to act on them. All the older ones said whether or not the dark side was present, but they never said how much. I think nearly all Jedi have at least a little dark side in them so ultimately I don't think those scans were too helpful. Here we get a much more descriptive scan of how much of one side or the other there is, so again I see why pever wants to act on it. Finally, I feel that if pever was really dark side, we'd see many more deaths of Knights and Masters than we saw up to this point because as far as I know most of them revealed to pever.

Beefy187

11-26-2010, 00:35

Joooray

11-26-2010, 00:36

"Normal" investigations?

Is there "abnormal" investigations?

Let's just say, that there are ways. But it's difficult.
To make it clear. Investigation results will not be useful to identify our greatest threats, thus we have to rely on in thread behaviour more than we did so far, but unfortunately I'm not very good at analysing peoples behaviour. So I ask people that have proven their skills in that regard in the past, to help us in this regard.

Didn't pever's character try to spare his opponent's life in that fight on the first day? That doesn't particularly scream someone who would go dark side after he died. To me having a force ghost change alignment after death seems a bit ridiculous. This makes me suspect Seon, we should keep an eye on that one.

I have been confused by pever's behaviour as well and have also asked myself if he suffered an alignment change, but I find that unlikely as it would be an extremely pro-mafia game aspect, if someone would be confirmed as Jedi upon death, but is evil as a force ghost.
Still, I'm not very happy, at how he has been handling things so far.

Also, I forgot in my previous post, Vote: Chaotix, he has also thrown me off for a while now.
I don't feel the case against DE and although I find it off-putting that Cecil comes out of hiding as soon as he is put under pressure and with a somewhat whimsy excuse, I will give him the benefit of a newcomer for now and the write-ups suggests the he survived (vig-)attack only with luck, which speaks more for low ranking Jedi than Sith Master or The Dark One. The Sith Apprentice is accounted for last night after all.

Seon

11-26-2010, 01:03

Finally, I feel that if pever was really dark side, we'd see many more deaths of Knights and Masters than we saw up to this point because as far as I know most of them revealed to pever.

I disagree with that. As mafia's goal is to outnumber the town by the end of this game (or so I assume), it is more advantageous for the mafia to target the weakest of us, the initiates, as they would be more certain in their success.

If we examine the 31 people who were killed by the Sith, we can see that they were ALL except one was initiates/padawans. In addition. it seems that at least the Sith faction have two kills (Sonic boom and the force choker). This translates to approximately 20 kills done by the Sith so far. If they were targetting randomly or whatever, you would expect that a lot more jedi knights and masters would be dead so far, but no. The vigilantes have killed more of them so far. If pever is allied with the Sith and have been providing them information, than that explains why the Sith have been able to target only the padawans/initiates.

As for Rebel Jab, who was killed despite being a jedi Knight, it is a known that he was collaborating with pevergreen. It is entirely conceivable that pevergreen managed to know more about the defenses that rebel jab prepared for that night and told the Sith that information.

Chaotix

11-26-2010, 01:23

In fact, I am questioning pever's loyalty to the town. For all we know, he may be a dark force spirit trying to kill the entire town for failing to protect Nomi Sunrider who he hinted to love. In addition, when pever died, the killer mentioned that pever's power came from the dark side of the force.

Now it seems that pever is trying to lynch Diamondeye using investigation results which, as we all know, is inaccurate as stormtroopers.

Vote: Chaotix /for now.

Seon, that line of reasoning is ridiculous. pevergreen was revealed as Jedi and town when he died, whereas you can clearly see with Sol Jade's death that Dark Jedi are revealed as Dark Jedi and Neutral when he died. Surely you must have known this already when you made that post.

Further, the host has said that nobody can change alignments when they are dead (EDIT: It seems most of you don't know this. Anyway, I asked ATPG personally and that was what he said. Perhaps he can publicly confirm it.), so there is no way pever was "converted" into an evil ghost. FoS: Seon

As for the case on me, from what I gather, I am guilty of:
-Being "suspicious".
-Deflecting "suspicion" away from me.

Of course, nobody has actually told me what those suspicious things are. I don't consider myself suspicious, so I'm really not trying to deflect it, because I have none to deflect. I am just acting in the best way possible to take down the Sith. I saw merit in the Cecil case (which came, I might add, from Sasaki, who I have continually been at odds with) and so I voted on it.

I can't defend myself further, because I don't know what to defend against.

Lynch me if you wish. It will do you no good. Honestly, I think there is a Sith or a Dark Jedi at the forefront of this bandwagon, and the rest of you are just following it.

Seon

11-26-2010, 02:05

Oh well, if pizza said that :shrug:

Askthepizzaguy

11-26-2010, 02:13

When you die, your alignment cannot change.

Would that this be a rule in every game, then I would have won a game I did not win..... :stare:

God Emperor

11-26-2010, 02:30

Death is yonder

11-26-2010, 02:45

I'd like to pose the question:

Since the current stand is that vigilantism would be highly frowned upon due to increasing your leaning to the dark side/becoming a dark jedi, how do you guys plan on dealing with people who claim force breath, especially those who would claim just to sow doubt and save their own lives (taking into consideration the mishaps of the past where we used like three or four lynches against force breathed persons)? :thinking:

At this point of the game I highly doubt you would waste two valuable lynches.

Anyone? pever?

Edit: Don't need a public response from you pever, just to raise the issue so that you can come to a private solution with the resources at your disposal :yes:

Choxorn

11-26-2010, 02:49

When you die, your alignment cannot change.

Would that this be a rule in every game, then I would have won a game I did not win..... :stare:

You lost a game because someone changed alignment after they died?

Seon

11-26-2010, 02:57

You lost a game because someone changed alignment after they died?

In YLC's The Creeping Darkness, well let's just say that there were a lot of cases. I came to suspect even the dead after that game XD

Chaotix

11-26-2010, 03:10

@ Chaotix , you are right that there is no written case against you, so I can only speak for myself, when you ask why you are being voted for.

I vote for you because I get 'scummy vibes' from you. They are in different forms throughout the game. First was when you were completely certain that Jeb should be lynched, if tincow was indeed innocent. Imo you sounded very sure that day, and the next day when some people decided not to lynch Jeb, you never even mentioned once that you wanted to have him lynched. This contradiction made me pay more attention to you. I believe you most of the game have been laying very low with accusations. ofc you did come forth and voted etc, but I missed an open attack with some personal risks. Doing such is a very good townie sign , as they do not have a lot to lose, unlike the mafia. Then there is a matter of your posts themselves. One of your most reason posts (sorry for not finding the quotation) , you said "our grandmaster was a dark jedi?" .. Such meaningless statements seem to me like you just wish to make your post take some space and appear 'curious and active'. I haven't played many games with you I think, so I sadly cannot say if this is your normal way of playing. and last, since I have had these feelings about your alignment since the very early part of the game, it would help me a lot, personally, if you are out of the picture, dead(no offense ofc:laugh4:), that I can put more focus on other players

I can answer those. Just by you putting your own case in quotes it looks rather shaky.

I went after Jeb when he revealed and got TinCow lynched because he claimed it was a "guilty" result. At that point, I didn't (nobody did) know how investigations worked, so I assumed when he said "guilty" he meant "guilty". Thus, when TinCow turned up "not guilty", naturally I thought Jeb was scum. Later I found out he misinterpreted the results, and that's why I dropped my accusations, albeit cautiously.

On the second post with the "obvious information", you've got me. The main point of that, honestly, was to make sure that everyone else was connecting role names with players. I feel it's important to note that Joooray, who is largely suspected to be a Dark Jedi, is the Grandmaster. It's also important to see that Ignoramus, who we previously thought was guilty, was the one who killed the Sith, thus clearing his name. And I was genuinely surprised that Sol Jade was a Dark Jedi, since he hadn't appeared to kill anyone in the write-ups- so unless he was killing without us knowing it was him, he was Dark from the start- which is a new and important piece of info.

Take that as you will.

pevergreen

11-26-2010, 03:45

-My claim of Force Breath is true; in order to lynch me to death, we need to waste not one but two lynches. I suggest we stop before the first.

Yes, but perhaps you don't realise just how many people have force breath. It seems like every man and his dog have it.

Vote: CecilXIX, because I don't trust pevergreen's informants, who've been wrong in the past. We will FoS:diamondeye for the future though, as if the information is correct, he may turn to Sith in the future.

Eh, its a different one this time.

And why does that sound so ridiculous? You must agree that pever's actions as of recent was a tad bit strange, suddenly accusing the Diamondeyedone using investigation result that has been proven false so many times. In fact, if anything, the investigation result that pever cited was even weaker than the evidence cited against the other two whom we lynched. Although he claimed that Diamondye seemed suspiscious, I saw no signs of him being so. is there any reason to vote Diamondeye other than gut feeling?

Wrong, wrong, wrong wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong wrong. You're wrong. You're wrooong.

Since the current stand is that vigilantism would be highly frowned upon due to increasing your leaning to the dark side/becoming a dark jedi, how do you guys plan on dealing with people who claim force breath, especially those who would claim just to sow doubt and save their own lives (taking into consideration the mishaps of the past where we used like three or four lynches against force breathed persons)? :thinking:

At this point of the game I highly doubt you would waste two valuable lynches.

Anyone? pever?

Edit: Don't need a public response from you pever, just to raise the issue so that you can come to a private solution with the resources at your disposal :yes:

Town needs to get it into its head that if we magically stumble across a sith in our voting, and they claim force breath (which they will have), well... Town, get your bleedin' act together. Force breath does not equal innocence.

Seon, you're working quite hard to discredit me. Why? Your reasoning is based off things that have been proclaimed false multiple times.

Sasaki: Why should we not lynch DE?

Just to make it more interesting: Both Cecil and Chaotix have force breath. Should we now completely go off to another person?

The difference is I know exactly who Cecil and Chaotix are, and what they can do. Neither of them are trouble. We want both alive.

Seon

11-26-2010, 03:51

a completely inoffensive name

11-26-2010, 03:51

To quell Diamondeye's suspicion of me I will reveal my plan.

I am a Jedi wimp who has no powers because I haven't done anything (like vote or actions) for the past couple cycles except make silly posts.

SPOILER ALERT!
However, as soon as I miraculously learn Form VII: Juyo/Vaapad I will murder you all. My blade will cut down Jedi and Sith alike until I am the only one remaining.

So don't worry, I'm not Sith, Diamondeye.

God Emperor

11-26-2010, 04:00

Seon

11-26-2010, 04:03

Sasaki Kojiro

11-26-2010, 04:04

EVERYONE HAS FORCE BREATH

IF WE VIG PEOPLE WE BECOME MAFIA

I GIVE UP

DAYKILL:SASAKI

God Emperor

11-26-2010, 04:05

There are no more Jedi wimps, actually. Everyone's a knight now...

Don't pay too much attention to ACIN here. Unless you are a Sith. Then please do so, we shall know that you did it when we notice the smoke coming from your head.

I figured it was worth a short asking, to see if he responded differently. guess you ruined it :P

a completely inoffensive name

11-26-2010, 04:20

a jedi wimp? so what are you, .. just a normal padawan or so?

@chaotix, will return to you shortly :)

Direct quote from ATPG:

ACIN is a weak, barely force-sensitive, more lazy and incompetent than most other Jedi hopefuls (lol who is worse then me ATPG?). ACIN is already terrible with the Force, ****** (did you need to start swearing here ATPG?) enough to make light wounds caused by the lightsaber worse. ACIN's ignorant nature also allows ACIN to sense danger approaching worse than most other students.

As the Jedi Wimp, you function as a low-level village idiot, which you will stay at for the duration of this game. Every night you can choose to shadow someone, and assist them in dying if you attempt to "help" them. You can't heal any kind of wound, defend your self, attack someone else competently or summon any sort of wisdom to provide an ability to project the force in any meaningful manner. But, this is better than being dead like Andres (I think ATPG knew it was coming for you Andres since the beginning.).

Since you have no saber of your own yet, you must continue your training, because unless your lack of any style or form manages to throw off your enemy, you can do nothing to save yourself from harm.

As a Jedi Wimp, you have the following attributes:

Jedi Wimp- Level 1 (Beginner)
-No lightsaber because the Jedi know you suck and don't you to kill anyone.
-Randomly distributed insults from me in PM form.

God Emperor

11-26-2010, 04:23

This is a mass PM I have BCC'ed to all recently promoted Knights, to spare me a lot of headache.

Jedi Knight- Level 3
STARTING PADAWANS: Padawan Level for 5 turns.
Prerequisite: Padawan Level for 4 turns, or Knight is slain and Padawan for 2 turns.
-Upon Promotion to Knight, Will choose a new saber form
-May learn new saber forms
-Will choose to specialize in saber, force, or balanced.
-Will learn force powers or saber powers every turn.

Choose a new saber form (1 through 6 only, from the ones you don't have)
Choose to specialize in Force, Saber, or remain balanced.

If you do not respond by the end of the day/night cycle, you will not get your bonus saber form, and you will remain Balanced by default.

If you already selected, ignore this message.

Now I'll send each of you the powers you learned. I'll also post this message and the time I sent it publicly, so you can't use it to prove anything.

actually ACIN.. this doesn't add up with what you are saying. You can ofc not be a wimp because there are none left. That alone is ofc relative, but if you carefully read the quote above then then it clearly says that everyone WILL choose a new saber form so how can it be a miracle if you suddenly learned one, since you apparently want it so badly as you make it seem?

Even if you are joking about with all of this, I would say it is worth taking a shot at. . If you were combining it with what you know, then it could suggest that you were not one of the people who had a promotion today. . and if so, then you are not a wimp.. ^^ . If you just loaf around and do silly talk like you claim, then you are no help at all. . so it's good enough for me to Unvote; Vote: Acin
@ pevergreen, apparently didn't get the chance to speak with you tonight, so I will trust what you say about chaotix for now, since I actually like his reply/defense.

Askthepizzaguy

11-26-2010, 04:23

Direct quotes like that from your role PM aren't allowed, ACIN.

Now you've ruined the whole game. :bigcry:

Seon

11-26-2010, 04:27

actually ACIN.. this doesn't add up with what you are saying. You can ofc not be a wimp because there are none left. That alone is ofc relative, but if you carefully read the quote above then then it clearly says that everyone WILL choose a new saber form so how can it be a miracle if you suddenly learned one, since you apparently want it so badly as you make it seem?

Even if you are joking about with all of this, I would say it is worth taking a shot at. . If you were combining it with what you know, then it could suggest that you were not one of the people who had a promotion today. . and if so, then you are not a wimp.. ^^ . If you just loaf around and do silly talk like you claim, then you are no help at all. . so it's good enough for me to Unvote; Vote: Acin
@ pevergreen, apparently didn't get the chance to speak with you tonight, so I will trust what you say about chaotix for now, since I actually like his reply/defense.

Wht did he say about Chaotix again?

...actually everone has force breath, so I really don't know wht to do...

Edit: nevermind I see it.

God Emperor

11-26-2010, 04:35

He claimed to be speaking with Chaotix, and since it was recently said that people could not change alignment upon death, then pevergreen is a confirmed innocent. So I just wait until I can speak with him about it, and unvote chaotix for now.
And yes, .. now that I think back didn't ACIN claim force breath too ? .. Would seem we are forced to vote people with force breath at some point I fear, though I am not too pleased with it. I will stick on acin even though he may have force breath as well....

pevergreen

11-26-2010, 04:49

Well, pever, I can only answer that I must have missed those posts. (or forgot about them completely). I thought that it was quite unusual to have a confirmed, unkillable and unlynchable townie and thought that there has to be some kind of catch.

Eh, as we know that you are confirmed townie for all eternity now, do you want my role PM?
Yeah sure you missed them :rolleyes: Yeah send me all your stuff.

EVERYONE HAS FORCE BREATH

IF WE VIG PEOPLE WE BECOME MAFIA

I GIVE UP

DAYKILL:SASAKI
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/6/61/Crush89.png

Cecil XIX

11-26-2010, 05:50

By my count God Emperor's vote change has put us back into a three-way tie, which would let the Sith choose who gets lynched. unvote, vote: Diamondeye.

Yaropolk

11-26-2010, 06:01

Vote: Jooray He's probably a dark jedi.

Csargo

11-26-2010, 06:11

By my count God Emperor's vote change has put us back into a three-way tie, which would let the Sith choose who gets lynched. unvote, vote: Diamondeye.

Why DE?

dcmort93

11-26-2010, 06:13

By my count God Emperor's vote change has put us back into a three-way tie, which would let the Sith choose who gets lynched. unvote, vote: Diamondeye.

Why DE?
Because he's a sith and he's joining a somewhat credible bandwagon either because A) He is just trying to save him self or B) He is trying to kill a fellow sith to save himself for a while by giving himself some credit

Csargo

11-26-2010, 06:15

Askthepizzaguy

11-26-2010, 06:26

Diamondeye: (7) Psychonaut, Ignoramus, Autolycus, pevergreen, Yaseikhaan, Beefy, CecilXIX

Cecil XIX: (6) Cblackadder, Sasaki, Chaotix, Csargo, Tincow, Robbiecon

Chaotix: (6) God Emperor, Nightbringer, ArpeggiateTHIS, Seon, Joooray, Frozen in Ice

Joooray: (2) Jarema, Yaropolk

Diana Abnoba: (1) Diamondeye

Tincow: (1) Khazaar

Not enough voters. Round ends at midnight Friday, then.

dcmort93

11-26-2010, 06:34

Pardon me as that post was unclear I was speaking of Cecil

Nightbringer

11-26-2010, 06:35

okay, i had missed that you could not be switched pever, in fact, i distinctly remember some1 saying that force ghosts could be corrupted in some way, i am gonig to go try to find that post now.

with this in mind, i am gonig to trust you once again, i hope yuo have got a good lead this time, but i honestly think we are going after a dark jedi at best, which doesnt necessarily seem to be working against us, but unvote, vote:diamondeye

gah, i couldnt find it, but i think it might have been people talking about the last game like this.

Seon

11-26-2010, 06:37

okay, i had missed that you could not be switched pever, in fact, i distinctly remember some1 saying that force ghosts could be corrupted in some way, i am gonig to go try to find that post now.

with this in mind, i am gonig to trust you once again, i hope yuo have got a good lead this time, but i honestly think we are going after a dark jedi at best, which doesnt necessarily seem to be working against us, but unvote, vote:diamondeye

I remember that, but I believe that the speaker misunderstood what pizza hinted at. Pizza hinted at people being able to be resurrected, I believe, which was confirmed when Beskar was resurrected. I don't remember who said it though.

pevergreen

11-26-2010, 06:49

I remember that, but I believe that the speaker misunderstood what pizza hinted at. Pizza hinted at people being able to be resurrected, I believe, which was confirmed when Beskar was resurrected. I don't remember who said it though.

That would be...me.

Cecil XIX

11-26-2010, 07:42

Because he's a sith and he's joining a somewhat credible bandwagon either because A) He is just trying to save him self or B) He is trying to kill a fellow sith to save himself for a while by giving himself some credit

As ATPG's tally makes clear, if I had kept my vote with Chaotix the result would have been a three-way tie which, if we had gotten two more votes, would've allowed the Sith to choose which of the three of us would be lynched.

Choxorn

11-26-2010, 08:15

Wrong, wrong, wrong wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong wrong. You're wrong. You're wrooong.

You missed one of the You're wrong's. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY)

Sasaki Kojiro

11-26-2010, 08:28

Nightbringer

11-26-2010, 08:31

Nightbringer do you have force breath?

Don't diamondeye's results indicate that he is not sith? Actually if the indicated "very little of the light in this one" does that mean he's the dark one? Or whatever joooray said about that. But we'd assume that dude is invest-immune?

why do you ask?

and that is how i feel to. but i also dont really see much on chaotix or cecil, if someone could make a real case against them i might be tempted to vote that way, but, without it, it just seems like vague feelings that have accumulated little bandwagons.
(i wanna wall of text!)

Csargo

11-26-2010, 08:44

why do you ask?

and that is how i feel to. but i also dont really see much on chaotix or cecil, if someone could make a real case against them i might be tempted to vote that way, but, without it, it just seems like vague feelings that have accumulated little bandwagons.
(i wanna wall of text!)

What made you choose DE over Cecil or Chaotix?

Nightbringer

11-26-2010, 08:47

What made you choose DE over Cecil or Chaotix?

because pevergreen is advocating that, and without ideas of my own, if i am going to follow i want to follow the one person we KNOW is a jedi

Diamondeye

11-26-2010, 08:53

When you die, your alignment cannot change.

Would that this be a rule in every game, then I would have won a game I did not win..... :stare:

Inishmore?

EVERYONE HAS FORCE BREATH

IF WE VIG PEOPLE WE BECOME MAFIA

I GIVE UP

DAYKILL:SASAKI

:beam: I think it's becoming a tad bit annoying as well. I started with it, the rest of you are just copycats!

Direct quote from ATPG:

<FLUFF>

:laugh4: That's hilarious, ACIN. You took the advice to go back to unserious posts, I see :tongue:

By my count God Emperor's vote change has put us back into a three-way tie, which would let the Sith choose who gets lynched. unvote, vote: Diamondeye.

Oh look is that a sith pushing someone else in front of him in the lynch queue? Unvote; vote: Cecil XIX. Not on my watch :stare:. Even duelling you is better than wasting a round on my forcebreath.

why do you ask?

and that is how i feel to. but i also dont really see much on chaotix or cecil, if someone could make a real case against them i might be tempted to vote that way, but, without it, it just seems like vague feelings that have accumulated little bandwagons.
(i wanna wall of text!)

There are more than three people in this game. Odds are none of us three are sith. Why focus solely on the three of us? Oh right you're just looking for an easy target.
pevergreen, what is your opinion about Nightbringer? Is he worth keeping around? Does he have Force Breath? Is he a worthy counterwagon?

Nightbringer

11-26-2010, 09:08

ugh, what is all the attention on me about.

ive tried to make cases in the past, (see dcmort and WeW). dcmort was obviously a disastre of scumdar for me, and WeW seems to be generally believed to just be inactive, not sith, and im pretty convinced of that after his defense.

i KNOW there are more than three people, i have often tried to find alternates to the bandwagons throughout the game but i am tired of doing so with no success and need a round to recoup and look for targets.

arnt you just trying to target me to relieve pressure on yourself diamondeye?

but alright, since you have made me feel bad for band-wagoning, i am going to go read over a bunch more posts and look for any kind of case to be made.
also, having thought about pever some more, we do know he is on our side, but he could still be being watched/influenced by the sith. by this i mean that sith could easily be among his informants, or able to steal info from him. i just cant accept that pizza would give us a completely safe place to pile information.

wideyedwanderer

11-26-2010, 09:21

:bow:

Thank you random.org.

What? Why are you thanking random.org?

ohh, good point, i should have read more carefully.
and that was early on in the bandwagon, ok, i guess i was likely wrong on WeW, he is just a townie that has acted rather suspicious

unvote, vote:Cecil XIX
the reasons arn't dissimilar from those on WeW, so lets see how this goes.

Maybe he is, but i got the feeling that it had more to do with dark knowledge than killing, (especially since sol jade didnt kill). however, i still agree that the new jedi master is likely to go dark jedi. I remember that pizza said the information passed on my Noami was dangerous, and i have a feeling it could be corrupting, i would encourage the new grand master to think carefully before looking at it (if that is an option). i definitely dont think we should just start voting jooray because of this though

sorry you see it that way, but i am just a practitioner of the scientific method, if i am faced with strong factual evidence that what i believe is wrong, i will concede my point.

Scientific method? I presented pretty reasonable explanations for my behavior that you seemed to have ignored. Other "suspicious people" presented much weaker reasons, yet you stuck to me. This doesn't make sense. FoS: Nightbringer.

[COLOR="blue"]

Are the writeups still good?

Still good.

Silent sith is silent :stare:
I think the suspicion of [B]Cecil is sound, but frankly, can't we count on the WOG to get rid of those who are not really playing the game? 6 posts the entire game - really?
I'd much prefer if we could, say, vote: Diana Abnoba, for now.

I believe Askthepizzaguy said that people would have to miss 5 voting periods in order to be WoG'd. Cecil doesn't seem to have missed 5 yet, so I don't think he's in danger of being WoG'd at the moment.

Mmm.... sounds tempting, but this probably isn't the place to discuss this. Private chat then? :kiss:

Aw, man, it was starting to get interesting. :dozey:

pevergreen

11-26-2010, 09:24

You missed one of the You're wrong's. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY)

Yeah, I knew. I couldn't be bothered doing it though.

Nightbringer do you have force breath?

Don't diamondeye's results indicate that he is not sith? Actually if the indicated "very little of the light in this one" does that mean he's the dark one? Or whatever joooray said about that. But we'd assume that dude is invest-immune?

No idea. All I know is that the result is unique to any results ive been given/i did myself. However, it is technically possible that this is a new investigation type that I haven't gotten a result from yet.

because pevergreen is advocating that, and without ideas of my own, if i am going to follow i want to follow the one person we KNOW is a jedi

Good idea.

Inishmore?

pevergreen, what is your opinion about Nightbringer? Is he worth keeping around? Does he have Force Breath? Is he a worthy counterwagon?

I think I might take offence at that inishmore comment. :tongue:
I have nothing on Nightbringer. Lately he has seen a bit scummy to me, but I'm useless as a actual 'he has done x and he is scum because of y' type of person.

also, having thought about pever some more, we do know he is on our side, but he could still be being watched/influenced by the sith. by this i mean that sith could easily be among his informants, or able to steal info from him. i just cant accept that pizza would give us a completely safe place to pile information.

I'm fairly sure out of the low number of people i'm working with, that none are sith. A couple are confirmed, or as close to confirmed as you can get. I believe the rest are innocent, and I have some that i'm not working with that i believe are innocent.

Then theres the outright scum like Beefy. :wink:

Undoubtably the sith (maybe only one for a night or two) know what i'm doing, but right now its too risky for them to try to infiltrate. 3 concurrent, organised jedi attacks would be able to take him/her out.

Sasaki Kojiro

11-26-2010, 09:28

WeW seems to be generally believed to just be inactive, not sith, and im pretty convinced of that after his defense.

Nope. You voted WeW to start today and I pointed out that Ironside had been voting him, and then:

ohh, good point, i should have read more carefully.
and that was early on in the bandwagon, ok, i guess i was likely wrong on WeW, he is just a townie that has acted rather suspicious

I appreciate it, but fos:nightbringer because the tone of the mind-changing reminds me of scum in a recent game.

sorry you see it that way, but i am just a practitioner of the scientific method, if i am faced with strong factual evidence that what i believe is wrong, i will concede my point.
unvote, vote:nightbringer

Ignoramus

11-26-2010, 09:36

I don't believe Nightbringer is guilty.

I scanned him one night when there were lots of kills and he was inactive that night.

ByzantineKnight

11-26-2010, 09:42

Vote: Diana

I have a feeling ^_^

Actually I think Chaotix is scummy but I don't like jumping on bandwagons... She'd be my second choice tho

wideyedwanderer

11-26-2010, 09:44

Why can I only do so many multiquotes in one post?

I think Cecil XIX is indeed fairly suspicious. I therefore appeal to him to not vote today, so as to be destroyed by the Will of the Force, and not make us spend a vote on him. If he does vote, he should be vigged tonight or killed tomorrow. Psychonaut's point makes sense, so vote:Diamondeye.

Basically, you want Cecil dead whether he's innocent or not? Scummy.

ugh, i have no idea what to vote.
pever, im going to trust you and unvote cecil,
but i don't think those scan results show diomondeye as sith, i think they show that he could easily turn to dark jedi.
so i wont vote diamondeye

Arpeg's last post struck me as very odd,

he is following a vague investigation result without question, and stating it as the absolute right thing to do.

but he just replaced someone who was wogged, so he is not likely sith.

chaotix is either very very skilled or isnt sith, his posts just really havent struck me that way, of course, my instincts havent worked too well so far, so im not going to suggest you dont vote for him, in fact, i think maybe ill ues a little crowd behavior this time and go with vote:chaotix

if others have been seeing so much skum in him for so long maybe i should trust them, especially since my instinct have been off and i dont know who else to vote.
i would feel a LOT better if someone could do a post and vote analysis on chaotix though.

After going after me hard, you gave up very easily very quickly. Now you are going along with the Chaotix wagon for no solid reasons. Maybe I just really don't understand your play style, or maybe you're Sith.

It seems the chief point against me is inactivity. Sasaki is right that this is a conscious strategy on my part, it was born of two considerations, chiefly that since this is my first Mafia game I wanted to play it safe and keep a low profile and secondly that I am not the type of person who posts very much to begin with. One look at my post count and join date is enough to verify the second point. The best evidence I have to support my innocence is that I am Xando Caecilius, and that I was attacked just like any other townie, and defended myself like one.

By my unnofficial count Diamondeye, myself and Chaotix are all tied at six, so I'm breaking the tie with vote: Chaotix. I agree with God Emperor's argument against lynching Diamondeye, although I also believe pevergreen's results indicate that Diamondeye is a Dark Jedi. Diamondeye is a good vig target, but it's not a good use of our time to lynch someone who claims Force Breath.

You say you prefer only 1 post per day, but you're obviously paying attention, and you've already posted multiple times today. I was suspicious of you before, so this is not the reason why I am voting for you, but it is strengthening the case against you, in my eyes. Vote: Cecil.

The difference is I know exactly who Cecil and Chaotix are, and what they can do. Neither of them are trouble. We want both alive.

You also knew who I was and what I did. Did I seem like trouble to you?

Direct quote from ATPG:

What exactly are you trying to pull here?

Sasaki Kojiro

11-26-2010, 09:46

I don't believe Nightbringer is guilty.

I scanned him one night when there were lots of kills and he was inactive that night.

Investigations don't work on the sith lord and the dark lord. Or anyone else as far as we know :cry:

Andres

11-26-2010, 09:46

As a Jedi Wimp, you have the following attributes:

Jedi Wimp- Level 1 (Beginner)
-No lightsaber because the Jedi know you suck and don't you to kill anyone.
-Randomly distributed insults from me in PM form.

:laugh4:

Nightbringer

11-26-2010, 09:48

Edit
I no longer stand by this case because i had lacked important information about csargo's nature...
End of Edit

Okay, here is the case i have found.
unvote, vote:csargo

why? No reason...

no, not really

Okay, here is my case. In short, Csargo has been very active, but has done nothing but question othres, make irrelevent comments, and vote safely.
It is not a case of look at this thing he did he is skum, but a case of someone who has worked to sow doubt and confusion while remaining under the radar himself.
I cannot say I feel strongly that he is sith, but I have been asked to not follow the leader, and as that is already what people are doing, i thought i would try to find our next victim, er, elected person of dying, or whatever you would like to call it.

I have gathered all his recent posts and will follow each one with a brief analysis. These are ordered from old to recent and only go back a few days, i might go back further at a later point.

Post Analysis

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
vote:chaotix
End Sasaki post

What did chaotix do?

Here he is not contributing anything, simply questioning why sasaki is voting this way, somthing you will see he does a lot without contributing anything of substance.

Originally Posted by Beefy187
Interesting development.
I'll decide the vote after hearing what pever says.
End Beefy post

:wall:

Again, no contribution, simply commenting negativly on another's post.

Vote:Link

No reason? 2 posts? :(

Now he is casting a vote that is very safe, and acting very nonchallant about it, a classic move to avoid attention. Plus, Link was a safe bet because he had just come under suspicion during the attack aggainst wogbait.

Originally Posted by Chaotix
Umm... yes.

'Specially considering you haven't made a case for me outside of "he is scummy" for at least 3 rounds or so.

End Chaotix post

He has magical powers.

No real contribution, just commenting again.

Originally Posted by Ignoramus
I don't like revealing info if I don't have to - otherwise I'm a dead kill for the Sith.

End Iggy post

Let me say this real quick:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Once again, simply insubstantial commenting, that also appeals to common sense. (Iggy's satement was a little odd)

Vote:Link

Once again voting link, for no real reason, and keep in mind link was not a major figure in discussion,

If you were a cupcake, I'd eat you all in one bite.

Vote:Cecil XIX is a good lynch, but so is Diana. I'll stick with Cecil though.

Responding to pizza in the first part, but the second part shows his safe voting, cecil, who is getting a bit of a bandwagon, and diana, who was being targeted, keeping his options open and staying safe.

Originally Posted by Cecil XIX
By my count God Emperor's vote change has put us back into a three-way tie, which would let the Sith choose who gets lynched. unvote, vote: Diamondeye.
End of Cecil post

Why DE?

Here is where things get a little odd, and the main thing that made me feel he is not trustworthy. He has just started his string of posts questioning votes on diamondeye. He seems to be questioning voting him as much as possible, but without any direct defense of diamondye. If we trust pever enough to say that Diamondeye is sith or dark jedi, then this could be him attempting to defend his buddy. He wants to try to sway votes away from diamondeye, likely towards cecil who is the next target.

Originally Posted by dcmort93
Because he's a sith and he's joining a somewhat credible bandwagon either because A) He is just trying to save him self or B) He is trying to kill a fellow sith to save himself for a while by giving himself some credit
End of dcmort post

Why do you believe DE to be Sith?
Again, questioning diamondye accusation.

Originally Posted by Nightbringer
why do you ask?

and that is how i feel to. but i also dont really see much on chaotix or cecil, if someone could make a real case against them i might be tempted to vote that way, but, without it, it just seems like vague feelings that have accumulated little bandwagons.
(i wanna wall of text!)
End of Nightbrigner (hey thats me!) post

What made you choose DE over Cecil or Chaotix?

Here is he questioning diamond accusation for the third time, but agian subtly, avoiding the limelight. and he is again suggesting one of the other candidates, but he has stated no reason for lynching them.

It is possible he just wants people to give reasons for their votes, but i think this unlikely given his consistant lack of any reason for his own votes.

Beefy187

11-26-2010, 09:54

EVERYONE HAS FORCE BREATH

IF WE VIG PEOPLE WE BECOME MAFIA

I GIVE UP

DAYKILL:SASAKI

Sure we've lynched no mafia yet, but surely ATPG won't make the game impossible for the town.
Maybe this is like God Father. If we lynch the Sith Lord (twice) we win.

Then theres the outright scum like Beefy. :wink:

:curtain:
Though if I am Sith, then I think i've been doing better then in God Father III.

Nightbringer

11-26-2010, 09:54

After going after me hard, you gave up very easily very quickly. Now you are going along with the Chaotix wagon for no solid reasons. Maybe I just really don't understand your play style, or maybe you're Sith.

I did, because, as i said ealier, i was presented with very good evidence that you were not sith. I admitted i was wrong and started looking for a new target.

If I have waffled a bit this round, it was because my main target, WeW, suddenly seemed to be very unlikely to be sith given the situation with iron.
I was attempting to follow what i saw as the most sound argument at the time, but that has changed a lot this round, as you can see, i have tried to create an argument of my own, but i do not feel it is very strong, i am mainly just trying to get more people to put together full arguments rather than just "he seems skummy, vote:him"

Although, I do have to say, Darth Nightbringer has a certain ring to it.:evilgrin:

(edit)@sasaki (end of edit)
How about this, could you please look at my post history and make an argument based on that, rather than just a random thing or two. Anyone can be made to look however you want with selective quoting (just look at reality tv).

Edit: Pever, what do you have on csargo?

pevergreen

11-26-2010, 10:04

I love that people try to do serious analysis on Strawberry or ACIN.

Nightbringer

11-26-2010, 10:06

I love that people try to do serious analysis on Strawberry or ACIN.

strawberry?
oh wait, is csargo like ACIN?? is his nickname strawberry?

if that is the case disregard my entire case against him because it would make no sense