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Askthepizzaguy
10-30-2010, 09:27
I also don't think that happened in the previous game.

This game is equally as different from the previous one as it is similar. Use the previous game as a reference at your own risk.

Romanic
10-30-2010, 09:28
So in the last game, what happened when 2 players were tied at the end of a day?

pevergreen
10-30-2010, 09:37
Sigurd? :tongue:

Romanic
10-30-2010, 09:38
No, he hasn't. Neither has Cecil XIX, CDF, Jolt, Niklas, split, or wideyedMy, my, my! 7 in 7, perfect score at finding who hasn't posted so far. Here's a nice balloon :balloon3: for a job well done and a FOS: Choxorn for following the game more than you should (maybe).


Sigurd? :tongue:
You don't remember that, even though you made it almost to the end?

Romanic
10-30-2010, 09:48
So in the last game, what happened when 2 players were tied at the end of a day?

I quickly checked last game - Day 9 ended in a tie between Niklas and pevergreen, and no one was lynched. Apparently ties resulted in a no-lynch.

So we can't use experience from the previous game to figure if it's a good idea to create ties on purpose.

@YLC: Thanks for giving your opinion.

I'd like to hear from more people on this.

pevergreen
10-30-2010, 09:49
You don't remember that, even though you made it almost to the end?

Mechanics man, my gameplay ascends mere mechanics.

Beefy187
10-30-2010, 09:51
Vote: Yaropolk

Jarema
10-30-2010, 10:05
Vote: Jolt

Its form of asking: where are you?

Joooray
10-30-2010, 10:21
oh yes.

vote:yaropolk


What's the case against Yaro?


Is it a good idea to create ties on purpose and let two players battle for the outcome?

On one side I've read that it could be one way to prevent lynching a powerful pro-town role, but on the other side the Sith would probably win such a fight. What does experience from the previous game say about that?

I think I agree YLC, sure if it's like in the case of pever, the powerful and likely more important role survives, but I'm sure pizza won't hint to whether that person is a pro-town power role or a Sith. This way it won't give us more information on who is a Sith and who isn't, but will out pro-town roles that will consequently be targeted as pever is. Sure this will tie up a possible kill, if the Jedi survives, but with time the Sith will most likely become more powerful and also be able to kill the more powerful pro-town roles.


I'm not sure. Maybe they don't know each other. Regardless, they'd be better off targeting someone else from now on.

I don't find that likely mechanic wise. With the first Sith apprentice already down it is very likely that the Sith Lord has chosen his replacement himself. Or do you think this is done randomly?

Finally, I will follow Romanic's hunch for now. Vote: ACIN.

So, I'll be at work for the rest of the weekend and thus most likely not able to respond again.

dcmort93
10-30-2010, 10:46
Vote: Joooray. You are playing way too much like last time I was with you and you turned out to be mafia after it was all said and done.

Ignoramus
10-30-2010, 11:12
Vote: Sasaki

I'm more convinced that Sasaki could have a Sith role. It was all too easy for him to claim to have taken out Beskar, and now he's claiming that he has the ability to protect too. If he can protect himself, then why come out an take the credit for knocking off Beskar - there's no need.

Ibn-Khaldun
10-30-2010, 11:25
Vote: Yaropolk

Ironside
10-30-2010, 11:30
Hrmm... probably a good idea to protect pevergreen, if he's going to keep being attacked.

Vote: Ironside

Has he posted?


Nope...

I mean yes, he just posted.

Never been good at the early game so it usually ends up with abstain or bandwagon votes.


I don't believe his claims. The fact that he ignores me strengthens this suspicion. Call it a major gut feeling. Sasaki would never claim this early, unless he is guilty as sin.


Getting the info for the vigi kill that early is a bit odd. There's either a day investigative power in play, a lucky vig kill or that ATPG or the sith lord screwed up (Beskar being inactive makes it hard for him to screw up). We can scrap a sith lord accident based on that Sasaki haven't named the sith lord, which he would know the name of in that case.

A very guilty Sith lord Sasaki killing off his own apprentice is a bit brutal though, but in a easy recruitment game (like your old one especially) not entirely stupid. ATPG do indirectly mention that this game won't be ending before the endgame, so automatic recruitment is in somehow. Would make the Sith lord having 2 kills a night, while the apprentice having one. Consistant with night actions, but only with no new apprentice. That makes the killing of your own apprentice big downside.

No idea if a day investigative power exist, but it sounds odd.

Lucky vid kill indicates a third or more factions, which ATPG has hinted at (can't find it so I might remember wrong though) and the crazy assassin could be a sign of. Sasaki belonging to this would be my guess.

Might as well put some weight behind this for now.
Vote: Sasaki

Kagemusha
10-30-2010, 11:49
Lets put some pressure to mr.Kojiro. FOS those who are joining the Yaropolk bandwagon, while none of the voters including Csargo havent given any reason for voting Yaropolk. Unvote and Vote: Sasaki

pevergreen
10-30-2010, 12:08
I don't like the way Sasaki has responded to what I've said to him.

Sprig
10-30-2010, 12:20
I am still not satisfied with vote: ignoramus, when he starts acting town-like I might have a change of heart.

Raskolnikov
10-30-2010, 12:29
May I introduce you to the cases against God Emperor and ByzantineKnight?

:drummer:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWnmCu3U09w&feature=related

->random vote from khaazar on cecilXIX

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053219844&viewfull=1#post2053219844

-> first post of God Emperor: BW on CecilXIX

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053219856&viewfull=1#post2053219856

-> first vote from BK: vote on God Emperor (cover vote?)

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053219974&viewfull=1#post2053219974

-> second vote of BK: BW on my previous self (important is BW, not self)

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053220170&viewfull=1#post2053220170

-> Jedi Initiate Double A sharing his thoughts about siths.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053220740&viewfull=1#post2053220740

-> immediate reaction from BK:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053220757&viewfull=1#post2053220757

-> immediate reaction from God Emperor:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053220771&viewfull=1#post2053220771

-> Perfect scum post from BK, I love the last sentence in particular:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053220863&viewfull=1#post2053220863

BK finally voted Cute Wolf, though he was under huge pressure. It was prolly judicious choice not to BW again.


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tl; dr: huge FOS on God Emperor and ByzantineKnight.

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Meanwhile, vote: pevergreen

Khazaar
10-30-2010, 12:30
I think any sort of public information is useful for town, even when the sith gain information too. I presume the sith are well informed already, or have spies so duels aren“t the worst thing that can happen. Jedies can always choose to not kill in a duel.

Random VOTE: Jooray

pevergreen
10-30-2010, 13:22
tl; dr: huge FOS on God Emperor and ByzantineKnight.

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Meanwhile, vote: pevergreen

Right, so you're voting for the guy that is getting attacked by Sith?

How silly are you trying to be?

Renata
10-30-2010, 13:36
vote: soup

Sky high signal to noise ratio and said something blatantly scummy like "oh that's bad" after two people turned up dead last night.

Diamondeye
10-30-2010, 14:25
No, he hasn't. Neither has Cecil XIX, CDF, Jolt, Niklas, split, or wideyed.

Keeping a list of easy BW targets?
Also; I spoke to Niklas in private; He only ever indicated interest in this game and never meant to sign up, as he's busy at the moment. I think he's asked ATPG to be replaced...


Vote: Diamondeye

He was the fastest to blame anyone who doing a simple lazy bandwagon. I wonder what is his motivation... :laugh4:

Delayed OMGUS? Being the first to accuse many people makes you enemies. That's poor mafia play if you're scum.


Odd - if the Sith really wanted pever dead, why not attack him together? Are they barred from doubling up for a night kill? I am happy pever is alive, but the fact he isn't dead is intriguing.

Going to look at tallies for now to make a more informed vote.

Hmm... It seems to be consensus that the sith have already restored their number to two - in effect before they sent in nightkills? The two attackers strike me very much as the same person, to be honest, but I'll do a rundown of the writeup later, like I did last round...


Right, so you're voting for the guy that is getting attacked by Sith?

How silly are you trying to be?

While I think pever's tone is too sharp, he's right. He's the closest we get to a confirmed innocent at the moment. Voting him isn't smart, Raskolnikov. I suggest you follow up on your own words and join me in voting: ByzantineKnight.

Also, on the Yaropolk-Sasaki bandwagons; I don't want Sasaki dead. If it comes down to these two, you can count my vote as being on Yaropolk by the end of the day.

slysnake
10-30-2010, 14:52
ARGH!!! just too late.

No time to play these last two days, but I would have voted Sasaki.
He might claim to have killed the Sith, but I believe he is lying. And before you think you have ferreted out the killer of your partner, Sasaki, you haven't

Edit: oops.. sorry about posting in da locked thread (see TinCow's reply for reference)

I second your concern, Sigurd, so this round: vote: Sasaki



BTW: Sorry for the messed up quotation, Im still a noob at forum posting :)

Death is yonder
10-30-2010, 15:02
Sounds plausible, little reason Sasaki would come out so early in the game with such a claim.

Claiming Vig: A fairly powerful one at that to have taken out a sith but then again Beskar wasn't around and maybe couldn't defend himself or something else like pever seemed to do.

Claims protection ability, and SELF protection to boot, pretty confident in it too.

I don't see much reason for Sasaki to be coming out this early suggesting that he's a pretty darned powerful character unless he's lying/having fun/free-loading credibility.

Vote: Sasaki

pevergreen
10-30-2010, 15:18
Sounds plausible, little reason Sasaki would come out so early in the game with such a claim.

Claiming Vig: A fairly powerful one at that to have taken out a sith but then again Beskar wasn't around and maybe couldn't defend himself or something else like pever seemed to do.

Claims protection ability, and SELF protection to boot, pretty confident in it too.

I don't see much reason for Sasaki to be coming out this early suggesting that he's a pretty darned powerful character unless he's lying/having fun/free-loading credibility.

Vote: Sasaki
The abilities are there, but yeah.

Hmm... It seems to be consensus that the sith have already restored their number to two - in effect before they sent in nightkills? The two attackers strike me very much as the same person, to be honest, but I'll do a rundown of the writeup later, like I did last round...
While I think pever's tone is too sharp, he's right. He's the closest we get to a confirmed innocent at the moment. Voting him isn't smart, Raskolnikov. I suggest you follow up on your own words and join me in voting: ByzantineKnight.
In the last game, the Sith went straight back to 2 IIRC. No wait time or anything. It was random as well I think.
Yes, my tone was a bit sharp. I apologise. DE is correct though.

Diana Abnoba
10-30-2010, 16:03
Vote: Sasaki sorry my friend, but you have some explaining to do.

johnhughthom
10-30-2010, 16:15
Vote: sprig

Double A is not disruptive. Annoying? Yes.

Sasaki Kojiro
10-30-2010, 16:42
fos:joooray

Don't like the sound of you "following the hunch of romanic".

@votes: I am a town power role. Why do you think otherwise merely because you cannot explain my actions? There is need for secrecy and informational warfare in this game.

The reasons for voting yaropolk were from last round, he posted a bandwagon vote with muddled and contradictory reasoning.

pevergreen
10-30-2010, 18:09
fos:joooray

Don't like the sound of you "following the hunch of romanic".

@votes: I am a town power role. Why do you think otherwise merely because you cannot explain my actions? There is need for secrecy and informational warfare in this game.

The reasons for voting yaropolk were from last round, he posted a bandwagon vote with muddled and contradictory reasoning.

You're acting like yourself, which is inherently not pro town.

I still have no reason to trust you, Mr. Wolf...

Frozen In Ice
10-30-2010, 18:13
I propose that we get Yaropolk and Sasaki into a duel. That way if Sasaki is really as almighty as he says he is, then he should win in a landside. I still find it likely that he is pro-town power role, but he is much less useful to the town if we don't trust him; this plan should fix our preceptions.

Rebel Jeb
10-30-2010, 18:29
Sasaki isn't a sith...

Vote: Joooray

He's acting too Joorayish.

God Emperor
10-30-2010, 18:36
Vote: Sasaki

I'm more convinced that Sasaki could have a Sith role. It was all too easy for him to claim to have taken out Beskar, and now he's claiming that he has the ability to protect too. If he can protect himself, then why come out an take the credit for knocking off Beskar - there's no need.

Why would it be an easy claim for Sasaki? If he claimed a kill that he did not do himself, then ofc he would be proven wrong, as the real killer would step forward, in public or to some in private = you believe he killed his own mafia buddy ? imo it is a reasoning that makes no sense
Vote: Ignoramus


Vote: Sasaki sorry my friend, but you have some explaining to do.

What exactly is it he needs to explain?


@ Romanic

No I don't think duels is a good idea. The strongest of the two would come out as the victor, and the write up would tell us if there was power roles involved. but what more ? Imo we should avoid duels, as they seem to give the mafia more useful information than the town.

@ Raskolnikov

I am not sure if you want a reply on your case. At leaste I don't know how to reply to it because I don't see the case really. But it surprises me you would put myself and Byzantineknight down as scumbuddies without voting for neither of us. Does this mean your case was only for show and that you wish to appear scum hunter?

Csargo
10-30-2010, 19:43
Lets put some pressure to mr.Kojiro. FOS those who are joining the Yaropolk bandwagon, while none of the voters including Csargo havent given any reason for voting Yaropolk. Unvote and Vote: Sasaki

I gave my reason yesterday.

Andres
10-30-2010, 19:48
I don't believe his claims. The fact that he ignores me strengthens this suspicion. Call it a major gut feeling. Sasaki would never claim this early, unless he is guilty as sin.
vote: Sasaki

Ignoring an accusation is a scumtell indeed. Apart from that, I don't really understand the case against Sasaki. Then again, TinCow eats strawberry yoghurt, strawberries are red, Darth Maul has a red skin, ergo TinCow is guilty.

Vote : TinCow

Kagemusha
10-30-2010, 19:52
I gave my reason yesterday.

Maybe you would then like to share those thoughts again, or even tell me the number of the page where those could be found.~;p

Andres
10-30-2010, 19:55
Maybe you would then like to share those thoughts again, or even tell me the number of the page where those could be found.~;p

He could give you the number of the page, but if he uses a different post/page view ratio, then you'll still be clueless. Better to ask for the number of the post.

Or maybe you are deliberately asking for the number of the page, so that you can post again and say that he's playing games and then vote him and get a bandwagon rolling.

Scumbag! Leave Csar alone! He's mine!

Unvote : TinCow ; Vote : Kagemusha

DIE, SITH, DIE!!!

Csargo
10-30-2010, 19:56
Maybe you would then like to share those thoughts again, or even tell me the number of the page where those could be found.~;p

I don't know what page it was on, but Sasaki summed it up well:


The reasons for voting yaropolk were from last round, he posted a bandwagon vote with muddled and contradictory reasoning.

To the people voting Sasaki I have to ask. Have you ever played a game with him? srsly u guise

Csargo
10-30-2010, 19:59
He could give you the number of the page, but if he uses a different post/page view ratio, then you'll still be clueless. Better to ask for the number of the post.

Or maybe you are deliberately asking for the number of the page, so that you can post again and say that he's playing games and then vote him and get a bandwagon rolling.

Scumbag! Leave Csar alone! He's mine!

Unvote : TinCow ; Vote : Kagemusha

DIE, SITH, DIE!!!

:sweetheart:

Kagemusha
10-30-2010, 20:09
He could give you the number of the page, but if he uses a different post/page view ratio, then you'll still be clueless. Better to ask for the number of the post.

Or maybe you are deliberately asking for the number of the page, so that you can post again and say that he's playing games and then vote him and get a bandwagon rolling.

Scumbag! Leave Csar alone! He's mine!

Unvote : TinCow ; Vote : Kagemusha

DIE, SITH, DIE!!!

And where were you lurking last night,slacking off while you were supposed to be tormenting Csargo? Bad Andres!:whip:

Andres
10-30-2010, 20:15
And where were you lurking last night,slacking off while you were supposed to be tormenting Csargo? Bad Andres!:whip:

I was changing diapers and preparing milk for my cruel master.

Askthepizzaguy
10-30-2010, 20:28
Dont forget, you can send in night actions now, to keep the game moving faster. It reduces nighttime from 48 to 24 hours. Surely everyone wants that....

ByzantineKnight
10-30-2010, 20:53
Well I'm back early so I can get back into the game!

Vote: Chaotix because of this post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053221848&viewfull=1#post2053221848)
It sounds like someone wants to make sure they know who will be protected and who will be safe to kill.

Diana Abnoba
10-30-2010, 22:32
@ God Emperor

Sasaki needs to explain his claim to be a VA killer (that killed Beskar) and a Dr./ protector role that has been protecting pever or himself. Was this just a joke? How can he have both of these abilities. Seems a little too overpowering a role to have from the start of a game. Or was he caught in a lie? Doesn't seem like him to claim any of this so early in a game, a little out of character for him. Or did he explain, and I missed something by scanning the thread?

Belisarius II
10-30-2010, 22:52
Vote: Sasaki

Because I still don't trust him.

ByzantineKnight
10-30-2010, 23:02
Good reason to trust Sasaki: He claimed very early in the game (probably too early to just do a townie claim and still have fun) He probably made the kill because no one has counter claimed yet and if someone else made the kill, chances are they would have killed him last night (or at least attempted to kill him...) so Its most likely he is who he said he is

Diana Abnoba
10-30-2010, 23:17
Yeah, that is a good point.

Sasaki Kojiro
10-30-2010, 23:19
Yeah, that is a good point.

unvote, vote:yaropolk

fixed

Chaotix
10-31-2010, 00:15
Well I'm back early so I can get back into the game!

Vote: Chaotix because of this post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053221848&viewfull=1#post2053221848)
It sounds like someone wants to make sure they know who will be protected and who will be safe to kill.

On the most basic level, your logic is sound. However, when you consider this:

-pevergreen has won a duel and been attacked twice, and so far fended off every attacker on him.
-There are more than 60 living players and the chance of a killer hitting a protected one is likely less than 1 in 20.

It becomes incredibly unlikely that I would want someone protecting pevergreen to "waste" a protection and increase my kill chance. The fact is that pever is a full Jedi Knight and therefore significantly more powerful than all of the Jedi Initiates who have been killed (and EVERYONE who's been killed was an Initiate) and likely has an ability or two by now. The mafia will either look for other people to kill so that they can increase their kill rate, OR they will concentrate their efforts on pever to stop him from becoming even more powerful and harder to kill.

So while protecting pever might not be optimal, he is powerful and it's certainly a better deal to pick someone you know you want to stay alive than someone at random.

That said, it sounds like YOU are trying to make it look like you're making an intelligent vote while not actually looking for the guilty party.

Unvote, Vote: Byzantine Knight




Also, on Sasaki- He did not use an active ability last night at all. This means two things:
-He was not Sith last night, because we saw the only living Sith attack pevergreen and I'm going to assume a newly recruited Sith cannot act on the same night he is recruited.
EDIT: Mistake here. There WERE two kill attempts last night. I believe only the one on Zack was confirmed Sith, but I can't be sure. In any case Sasaki did not attempt either of those.
-He is also bluffing about his active protect ability that he used on himself. Difficult to make a call on his claimed vigilante ability.

So the case on Sasaki is no better than the case on anyone who was susceptible to recruitment last night. Take your votes off him.

Captain Blackadder
10-31-2010, 00:58
vote: soup

Seems to be trying too hard to appear town stating the obvious like the death of two townies last night being a bad thing.

ByzantineKnight
10-31-2010, 00:59
snip

I don't seem to recall peever claiming Jedi Knight but I'll assume that its just a slip up and since you investigated Sasaki this previous night (i guess) then i'm gonna take that as a roleclaim detective...

Which if its true means you arent scummy but I'd just as soon believe the real detective is passing you info for you to post while staying anonymous to be safe from the mafia, which would also be a plus for your credability)

However it just kinda died as you finished your statement... If you could explain how I am "not looking for the guilty party" by making a "seemingly intelligent" case against someone instead of jumping on Sasaki's bandwagon.

but you are right, people, please unvote Sasaki, killing him wont help the town and there is no real case against him

Yaropolk
10-31-2010, 01:09
Challenge: Sasaki...oh wait wrong game

I mean Vote: Sasaki Tie anoyone?!

Sasaki Kojiro
10-31-2010, 01:11
He is also bluffing about his active protect ability that he used on himself.

Informational warfare, we hardly knew ye :embarassed:

Sasaki Kojiro
10-31-2010, 01:12
Challenge: Sasaki...oh wait wrong game

I mean Vote: Sasaki Tie anoyone?!

LET'S LYNCH THIS GUY NOW

tally is approx:
13 sasaki
5 yaropolk

but he votes me and pretends like he is going for the tie...

Beskar
10-31-2010, 01:16
Askthepizzaguy is having internet connectivity issues and may not be able to do the writeup. Please stop posting at midnight and send in night actions if you would like to do so.

ByzantineKnight
10-31-2010, 01:26
tally is approx:
13 sasaki
5 yaropolk

I didn't realize it was that bad...

Unvote; Vote:Yaropolk To stop Sasaki from being lynched... no other reason

Yaropolk
10-31-2010, 01:42
Don't want to die by my lightsaber Sasaki? Suit yourself.
unvote

Askthepizzaguy
10-31-2010, 01:44
I may have my connection back, I had to rejigger the whatchamacallit and reconfigure the doohickey.

Could I have an accurate tally for this round, please?

ByzantineKnight
10-31-2010, 02:13
I believe the correct tally is:

Current Leader:

Sasaki (9) - pevergreen, Sigurd, Ignoramus, Ironside, Kagemusha, slysnake, Death is yonder, Diana Abnoba, Belisarius II

Second Place:

Yaropolk (5) - Csargo, Sasaki, Beefy187, ByzantineKnight, Ibn-Khaldun

Third Place:

acompletely inoffensive name (3) - Romanic, Choxorn, Joooray
Joooray (3) - dcmort93, Khazaar, Rebel Jeb

Others

Soup (2) - Renata, Captain Blackadder
ByzantineKnight (2) - Diamondeye, Chaotix
Ignoramus (2) - Sprig, God Emperor
Chaotix (1) - Psychonaut
Diamondeye (1) - Cute Wolf
Yaseikhaan (1) - YLC
Jolt (1) - Jarema
peevergreen (1) - Raskolnikov
Sprig (1) - johnhughthom
Kagemusha (1) - Andres
Cecil XIX (1) - Seon
Ironside (1) - Chaotix

Romanic
10-31-2010, 02:43
Why the daisy would you lynch Sasaki because he claims being a power role?

The reasoning seems to be that Sasaki would not claim as such if he was a townie, however I don't see why he would do such a thing as a Sith. The game is just starting, and he would know that keeping a pro-town cover. for the next 10 days, is pretty much impossible. We would expect him to vig/protect, but as a Sith he would be hard pressed to have an answer every time.

To me Sasaki is either telling the truth, or throwing out false information to mislead the Sith. Who cares if he's really what he claims? I still see it more likely that he's a tricky townie than a stupid Sith. Some of you are jumping to conclusions way too easily.

I'll stick my vote on candidate #2 because the case on Yaro makes some sense, at least.

unvote; vote: Yaropolk

Romanic
10-31-2010, 02:49
@BK: your tally is missing Ibn's vote on Yaro (post #512) and Ignoramus has 2 votes against him, which you listed, but didn't increment.

If I'm not mistaken, the current tally is Sasaki 9, Yaropolk 6.

ByzantineKnight
10-31-2010, 02:54
@BK: your tally is missing Ibn's vote on Yaro (post #512) and Ignoramus has 2 votes against him, which you listed, but didn't increment.

If I'm not mistaken, the current tally is Sasaki 9, Yaropolk 6.

Sorry about that, i'm glad you checked! Fixed

Rebel Jeb
10-31-2010, 03:20
You guys are making a mistake here...

Unvote: Vote: Yarolpolk

Frozen In Ice
10-31-2010, 03:28
In an attempt to save Sasaki, Vote: Yaropolk

Diamondeye
10-31-2010, 03:37
unvote, vote: Yaropolk
as promised.

Greyblades
10-31-2010, 03:42
Challenge: Sasaki...oh wait wrong game

I mean Vote: Sasaki Tie anoyone?!

Ouch... I mean... ouch. I dont think there's any role that would say something like that mafia or otherwise... maybe he's a joker?

ByzantineKnight
10-31-2010, 03:45
Ouch... I mean... ouch. I dont think there's any role that would say something like that mafia or otherwise... maybe he's a joker?

but he's a better lynch than someone who has already proven himself protown

Romanic
10-31-2010, 03:46
Hemm, no. Pizza isn't big on jokers, thankfully.

Skooma Addict
10-31-2010, 03:48
May I introduce you to the cases against God Emperor and ByzantineKnight?

:drummer:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWnmCu3U09w&feature=related

->random vote from khaazar on cecilXIX

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053219844&viewfull=1#post2053219844

-> first post of God Emperor: BW on CecilXIX

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053219856&viewfull=1#post2053219856

-> first vote from BK: vote on God Emperor (cover vote?)

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053219974&viewfull=1#post2053219974

-> second vote of BK: BW on my previous self (important is BW, not self)

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053220170&viewfull=1#post2053220170

-> Jedi Initiate Double A sharing his thoughts about siths.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053220740&viewfull=1#post2053220740

-> immediate reaction from BK:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053220757&viewfull=1#post2053220757

-> immediate reaction from God Emperor:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053220771&viewfull=1#post2053220771

-> Perfect scum post from BK, I love the last sentence in particular:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053220863&viewfull=1#post2053220863

BK finally voted Cute Wolf, though he was under huge pressure. It was prolly judicious choice not to BW again.


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tl; dr: huge FOS on God Emperor and ByzantineKnight.

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Meanwhile, vote: pevergreen

This vote makes no sense to me, unless you know something the rest of us don't.

Vote: Raskolnikov

ByzantineKnight
10-31-2010, 03:50
This vote makes no sense to me, unless you know something the rest of us don't.

Vote: Raskolnikov

Just Vote: Yaropolk for now, you can go after Rask once Sasaki is safe...

Chaotix
10-31-2010, 04:03
Yaropolk's post after mine has sealed his fate.

Granted, he probably didn't read it, but still.

Unvote, Vote: Yaropolk

Letting Sasaki get lynched is stupid. I don't particularly think Yaropolk is mafia, but then I don't have enough information to really think anyone is mafia right now.

I'll be keeping an eye on ByzantineKnight, basically I felt you made a scummy post but I can hardly call you more guilty than anyone else here at this stage of the game.

pevergreen
10-31-2010, 04:13
To those who are not in the know about abilities, its a weird system, there are no defiend roles. You gain powers at random.

Unvote: Sasaki

How about you start working with me now.

I'm working up a list of those that I can trust.

And whoever said that last page is correct, I've not claimed anything. I'm just a poor little weak newbie jedi.

Choxorn
10-31-2010, 04:19
Unvote, Vote: Yaropolk

Sasaki is not a Sith. Why would a Sith claim all those things, knowing that, if false, they'd be sure to get him lynched, and if true, would put him under town scrutiny? No Sith is that stupid.

As to having a self-protect, vigilante, and protect, maybe he's just screwing with the Sith, or maybe he really does, and the Jedi Masters get a million cool abilities like they did last game.

Cecil XIX
10-31-2010, 04:24
I'm not certain what Sasaki's motive's are for role-claiming, but unvoting without revoting like Yaropolk did is rediculous. Now's not the time for those games.

vote: Yaropolk.

seireikhaan
10-31-2010, 04:27
Vote: Yaropolk

Bandwagon on Sasaki-sama is ridiculous. Must save Sasaki-sama.

Askthepizzaguy
10-31-2010, 04:42
Hemm, no. Pizza isn't big on jokers, thankfully.

There are no jokers in this game, unless you count the father of the cute little creature who is 99% jester and 1% mafia player. :tongue2:

Translation: There are no jokers in this game. I don't do jokers, everyone hates them.

Askthepizzaguy
10-31-2010, 05:00
Round has ended, standby for results. Posting is now closed; send in your night actions and preferences to me NOW.


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Night ends at 11:59:59 PM Monday, November 1st, Eastern Time USA




First Place:

Yaropolk (13) - Csargo, Sasaki, Beefy187, ByzantineKnight, Ibn-Khaldun, Romanic, Rebel Jeb, Frozen in Ice, Diamondeye, Chaotix, Choxorn, Cecil XIX, Yaseikhaan

Second Place:

Sasaki (8) Sigurd, Ignoramus, Ironside, Kagemusha, slysnake, Death is yonder, Diana Abnoba, Belisarius II

Third Place:

Joooray (2) - dcmort93, Khazaar,
Soup (2) - Renata, Captain Blackadder
Ignoramus (2) - Sprig, God Emperor

Others

a completely inoffensive name (1) - Joooray
Chaotix (1) - Psychonaut
Diamondeye (1) - Cute Wolf
Yaseikhaan (1) - YLC
Jolt (1) - Jarema
pevergreen (1) - Raskolnikov
Sprig (1) - johnhughthom
Kagemusha (1) - Andres
Cecil XIX (1) - Seon
Diana Abnoba (1) - Nightbringer
Raskolnikov (1) - Skooma Addict


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Nomi Sunrider gathered everyone together, back at the hangar bay.

"Have we reached a verdict?" Nomi asked.

The Jedi took a vote, and after some debate, many votes were changed, and the final vote tally came up with a surprise candidate.

"Yes we have, Grandmaster." said the ranking Jedi Master.

"Who did your feelings tell you was guilty?" Nomi said.

"Yala Edak, your grace."

"Very well. Let the accused have a chance to defend themselves." Nomi said, and motioned for the suspect to plead their case.

Yala Edak: "I am not a Sith, your grace, and I was only trying to find the Sith among us. I do not think I should be put to death."

Nomi Sunrider: "Do you have anything else to say in your defense?"

Yala Edak: "I do not agree with this system of deciding guilt. Why do we not launch an investigation, or seal off certain people in some parts of the ship, and try to logically narrow down who the Sith are? None of this seems very sensible to me."

Nomi Sunrider: "The Sith have a way of avoiding being caught by what is logical. They are very capable of tricking the senses, and clouding the mind. A firm resolve is needed, uncompromising. Sacrifices have to be made for the greater good."

Nomi motioned for him to go into the hangar bay, and then sealed it off. Yala Edak stood in the hangar bay, asking to be let back in, and asking them not to go through with it. With some hesitation, Nomi Sunrider switched off the hangar bay force field, and the hangar decompressed, blowing Yala Edak out into space. He died very quickly after a short struggle. Nomi needed to make certain, and so she locked onto Edak's body with a tractor beam and brought him back into the hangar bay. Medical droids examined him and found that he was indeed dead.

Nomi was displeased, and did not sense the Dark Side present in him.


Nomi Sunrider: "We have lost another of our own. I would ask you to meditate and clear your thoughts, it seems that your senses are not as attuned as they should be. Please report for night watch duty, those of you on Alpha shift. Beta shift, use your down time to purge your mind of this failure, and get needed rest. Remember to lock your doors and change your security codes on a shift-by-shift basis. Those of you who are scheduled for more training, please join me at the Holocron.

Tonight I would like to double the watch for the weapons, engines, and life support systems. It is less important that other ship systems are covered. Good night, and may the Force be with us all."







https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/Star%20Wars/Jedi-067.png

Yaropolk- Yala Edak



Yaropolk was a Jedi Initiate!

He was Jedi!







Alive: (60/67)


a completely inoffensive name
Andres
AntiKingWarmancake
ArpeggiateTHIS
Autolycus
Beefy187
Belisarius II
ByzantineKnight
Captain Blackadder
Cecil XIX
Chaotix
choxorn
civplayah
classical_hero
Csargo
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
dcmort93
Death is yonder
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ibn-Khaldun
Ignoramus
Ironside
Jarema
Johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
Kagemusha
Khazaar
landlubber
Link
Major Robert Dump Replaced by Slysnake2
Nictel
Nightbringer
Niklas
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Rebel Jeb
remake20
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Sasaki Kojiro
Secura Replaced by Zack2
Seon
Sigurd
Skooma Addict
Soup567 Replaced by Stuck in Pi2
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Sprig
TheFlax Replaced by Raskolnikov2
Tincow
wideyedwanderer
Winston Hughes Replaced by Double A2
Yaseikhaan
YLC


Dead: (7/67)

Raskolnikov- Jedi Initiate Mas Amdu Kof (Killed Day One)
Slysnake- Jedi Initiate Kerren Cae (Killed Night One)
Stuck in Pi- Jedi Initiate Si-At Unesh (Killed Night One)
Beskar- Jedi Initiate Jax Revus - Sith Apprentice Darth Fermanagh (Killed Night One)
Double A- Jedi Initiate Mun Farlander (Killed Day Two)
Zack- Jedi Initiate Yogal Sec-barr (Killed Night Two)
Yaropolk- Jedi Initiate Yala Edak (Killed Day Three)



Double A replaces Winston Hughes

Night phase continues.

Sigurd
10-31-2010, 10:14
Also, on Sasaki- He did not use an active ability last night at all. This means two things:
-He was not Sith last night, because we saw the only living Sith attack pevergreen and I'm going to assume a newly recruited Sith cannot act on the same night he is recruited.
EDIT: Mistake here. There WERE two kill attempts last night. I believe only the one on Zack was confirmed Sith, but I can't be sure. In any case Sasaki did not attempt either of those.
-He is also bluffing about his active protect ability that he used on himself. Difficult to make a call on his claimed vigilante ability.

So the case on Sasaki is no better than the case on anyone who was susceptible to recruitment last night. Take your votes off him.

Your theory is full of holes...
You might have forgotten that skilled force users can hide their actions. force cloak or force stealth anyone...
You claim to have some force detection abilities, but they are most certainly able to be countered.
And someone used a network to get Sasaki off the hook. Bad, bad...

And I am sorry again for posting when the thread is locked. But it seems that whenever I am able to participate the thread is locked. Time zones combined with RL.

Askthepizzaguy
10-31-2010, 12:06
Discussion opened.

Are the day phases too short for people?

Are the night phases too long for people?

People are already complaining about the number of posts per day, which is understandable for people who are playing other games and have real life as well. Also a game like this is going to take as long as Capo III maybe to complete. I'm trying to keep things moving as much as possible, allow people with busy schedules to send in night actions, and keep the pace of the game brisk and the number of posts per day manageable.

Should we switch to 48 hour days and 24 hour nights? 48 hour days and 48 hour nights? 24/24?

Diamondeye
10-31-2010, 12:11
And someone used a network to get Sasaki off the hook. Bad, bad...

Or people simply found Sasaki largely innocent and Yaropolk much more scummy. This is too early in the game for my taste to lynch Sasaki, and Yaropolk put himself in a situation where the only other alternative was himself. Luckily he was only an initiate...

Diamondeye
10-31-2010, 12:16
Are the day phases too short for people?

Are the night phases too long for people?

The night phases do drag on but I'd guess it's pretty important that people get a fair chance to send in their orders, so I won't recommend making them shorter - that's a decision for you and the people who have to send in their orders.


People are already complaining about the number of posts per day, which is understandable for people who are playing other games and have real life as well. Also a game like this is going to take as long as Capo III maybe to complete. I'm trying to keep things moving as much as possible, allow people with busy schedules to send in night actions, and keep the pace of the game brisk and the number of posts per day manageable.

Should we switch to 48 hour days and 24 hour nights? 48 hour days and 48 hour nights? 24/24?

I think what's running now is fine... As I said, the only thing I'd change would be slightly shorter nights, but that's your choice.

You're doing an amazing job hosting this, mate. It's great you're back in shape :bow:

Raskolnikov
10-31-2010, 12:26
Discussion opened.

Are the day phases too short for people?

The thing is that if you are gone for most of your RL day, you get to see the thread only once since the game day doesn't span over two real days. Myself, I can promiss to be less spammy. Though do what you can to keep people on board would be my advice (you must have a best overview of the situation).

edit:
You're doing an amazing job hosting this, mate. It's great you're back in shape :bow:

seconded :bow:

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reply to some comments:

@pever: I thought my vote was enough "off" to be recognised as a joke by most. I had planned another voting post but life is unpredictable.


(...) Raskolnikov, voting pevergreen isn't smart (...)

@DE: Obviously, see comment above. :bow:

@GE: I didn't want to look like a "sith hunter". I hunt them period. I spent a bit of time reading the first 16 pages and was sharing my thoughts about the most scum behaviors. BTW, you explained nothing. Why do you only make BW votes for instance?

@BK: no comments?

Andres
10-31-2010, 13:14
If I understand it correctly, the "case" against Sasaki was mainly based on his claim that he vig killed [B]Beskar?

:inquisitive:

Some people have some explaining to do, me thinks.

Askthepizzaguy
10-31-2010, 13:29
If I understand it correctly, the "case" against Sasaki was mainly based on his claim that he vig killed [B]Beskar?

I guess the pot sometimes calls the kettle excrement. :laugh4:


I will never, ever be as good as Gregoshi.

Jarema
10-31-2010, 13:52
For me it would be best if days lasts 48 hours and nights 24 hours... if it would be enough for people to send their night orders. ATPG - you know the best how many players sent their night orders during first 24 hours. If it is clear majority, maybe shorten nights and it will discipline others

Diamondeye
10-31-2010, 14:12
If I understand it correctly, the "case" against Sasaki was mainly based on his [bad word for kettle excrement] claim that he vig killed Beskar?

:inquisitive:

Some people have some explaining to do, me thinks.

... And what's wrong with that? Sasaki joked around, that's all, in my opinion.
Besides, if talking bull is suspicious, I think we should take a closer look at your earlier case against me :laugh4:
What I'm trying to get across is that people take what Sasaki said too seriously... There are plenty of others who're just keeping silent and jotting along on bandwagons...

God Emperor
10-31-2010, 14:18
@Raskolnikov

I don't recall where my first vote was placed, so I don't know about that. Make of that what you want. My second vote was Double A? that was a bandwagon, because I did not like that he appeared to have more information than what was made public. Third vote, Ignoramus. You can hardly put that down as a bandwagon vote, being the first out of two to vote for him. :smiley2:

naut
10-31-2010, 14:51
[bad word for kettle excrement]
Steam?

Yaropolk
10-31-2010, 15:00
. This is too early in the game for my taste to lynch Sasaki, and Yaropolk put himself in a situation where the only other alternative was himself. Luckily he was only an initiate...

Not really luck there... Potential pro-town vigilante > initiate. Don't try to lynch potential pro-town roles. You may not find an initiate to fall on the sword next time.

TinCow
10-31-2010, 15:06
Sorry for missing the vote again. I recommend pressure on Rebel Jeb, this post looks to me like he has some kind of knowledge about Sasaki.


Sasaki isn't a sith...

Vote: Joooray

He's acting too Joorayish.

pevergreen
10-31-2010, 15:16
All phases 24 hours. Its how its usually done. I know the host workload is huge, so keep them as long as you need them until its manageable on 24/24. Thats how the org is played.

As for the spam, its a large game, with active members. Capo 1 went faster, posts every 6 minutes on average, IIRC.

ByzantineKnight
10-31-2010, 15:20
24 hour phases are good but I suggest from now on we keep an updated voting tally at the end of the post whenever someone posts... just put it in SPOIL tags and it shouldn't interfere with the game too much ^_^

my apologies to Yaropolk for helping that bandwagon along

EDIT: I forgot my reply to Raskolnikov

@BK: no comments?

Not really, I explained my position on the votes a while back. If you still feel I'm scummy then there's not much I can do about it :bow:

ArpeggiateTHIS
10-31-2010, 15:20
Missed my vote, RL activities.

Rebel Jeb does look like he's put his foot in it though.

Csargo
10-31-2010, 15:26
All phases 24 hours. Its how its usually done. I know the host workload is huge, so keep them as long as you need them until its manageable on 24/24. Thats how the org is played.

As for the spam, its a large game, with active members. Capo 1 went faster, posts every 6 minutes on average, IIRC.

I agree.

Diamondeye
10-31-2010, 15:27
Not really luck there... Potential pro-town vigilante > initiate. Don't try to lynch potential pro-town roles. You may not find an initiate to fall on the sword next time.

I'm not sure I understand this reply. I wasn't trying to lynch Sasaki, I was trying to spare him from the lynch...

Yaropolk
10-31-2010, 16:04
I wanted to cause a tie - I'd probably stand no chance but info on Sasaki would come out without lynching him. The pendulum swung a bit too far in my direction though.

Double A
10-31-2010, 17:03
I'm back :beam:

Diamondeye
10-31-2010, 18:23
I wanted to cause a tie - I'd probably stand no chance but info on Sasaki would come out without lynching him. The pendulum swung a bit too far in my direction though.

Sasaki was ahead by a kajillion votes and you voted for him saying "tie please". Not the best entrƩe...

Askthepizzaguy
10-31-2010, 19:15
Secura is replaced by Zack2

Choxorn
10-31-2010, 20:30
We probably need the 48 hour days so everyone can get online, but maybe keep the nights at 24 unless you're missing about half of the orders.

Sigurd
10-31-2010, 21:01
Everybody should be able to get on at least once a day. Games shouldn't take too long to play. 48 hours phases are insane.
It's good for this type of game that it is fast paced.

Frozen In Ice
10-31-2010, 21:03
I'd say keep the timing as it is for now, but once there are fewer players switch over to a 48 hour day/ 24 hour night. By then there will be fewer posts, so you won't have to worry about people not keeping up during the day, but at the same time this set up will allow those that are still alive to have more time to discuss and be active. Just my two cents anyway.

autolycus
10-31-2010, 22:19
I like 48 day 24 night. During the day, we need the additional time to be able to see how people react and react to them in turn. Everyone should be able to get in once in a 24 hour period to send in their night action, and night actions can be pre-ordered.

robbiecon
10-31-2010, 23:15
Whoa, just missed a full day. Will be more active for the next week or so though. Got distracted by Rock Band 3, (and college work)

Choxorn
11-01-2010, 00:06
I like 48 day 24 night. During the day, we need the additional time to be able to see how people react and react to them in turn. Everyone should be able to get in once in a 24 hour period to send in their night action, and night actions can be pre-ordered.

This.

Askthepizzaguy
11-01-2010, 01:56
I'm not seeing a consensus. Many people want longer days, many people need longer nights, as would be evidenced by all the missing orders so far. Some people want 24/24.

Basically, no matter what I do, no one is going to be very happy. It is vitally important FOR THIS GAME if I get all night actions in. A missed night can basically ruin the game for certain folks. Your top Jedi could be slain, permanently altering the balance of power, your Sith Lord could miss out on their orders and create a game with no challenge, etc.

I don't like missing night actions for this game. It will ruin this game. I really can't shorten nights unless people are willing to do as I asked and send in orders in advance during the day. Then I could have it be 48 hour days and 24 hour nights. When the game shrinks by about half, I may drop it to 24/24.

For now, I think this is how I am going to do it. If more than 50% of the living players have voted, the day phase ends in 24 hours. If less than 50% of the living players have voted, the day phase ends in 48 hours. If people are willing to send in night actions early, or get them in during the initial 24 hours, I'll shorten the night to 24 hours. But there's always someone missing, so it basically never happens, and if that person is a defender then it potentially affects the murder outcome.

An investigator I could just send results for during the day phase if they were late. I could almost bend the rules a little that way, but docs/blockers I cannot. What's the point of being a doctor or blocker if you're never around to stop a murder? Also vitally important in this game.

I am trying to come up with a fair compromise for ending night phase early even if I don't have all night actions. The criteria must be: Night actions in for the Sith, and night actions in for the defender/blocker roles (which I never have). I can bend on investigations and stuff if you send it in by the time the night phase would have ended normally, because it doesn't affect the murder outcomes. You can easily send in your defensive moves during the day, there's no need to wait on that.


If you want a faster paced game, I need orders in early, period. If you want a longer day phase, I'd need to shorten nights, because 48 and 48 is too long, almost universally agreed.

If you want longer day phases, you have to send in early night orders or at least get them in during the initial 24 hours. That's my call as the host. I will not adjust the day or night phase lengths until night actions start to match my expectations there, early or first 24 hours. Night actions sent after the first 24 hours of night phase means I'm leaving it just right where it is.


And to those that ask, no, your abilities do not disappear when you use them, with one exception I will tell you about if/when you get it.

I'm closing the discussion again for now. Unless there's a clear consensus or I get night actions early, I can't budge the current setup.

Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2010, 01:48
Announcement

I can understand if real life pulls you away from a game you signed up for. TheFlax, for example, was very enthusiastic about this game and was forced to leave it against his will. I can understand it if you had a family member die or are experiencing an illness or severe depression or something.

What I don't understand are the progressively lamer and lamer reasons to pull out of this game. Other people aren't paying attention to it? You just don't feel like playing anymore?

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm getting rather upset. It's disrespectful to me to sign up for a game like this, and not give it a fair shake.

No, I'm not going to replace you anymore. You want to drop out and be wogged, that's your business. But make sure you're not doing it because you're having a passing flight of apathy or sadness that the game isn't going your way.

I'm doing a lot for this game, and not asking much from you in return. One vote out of every 5 day phases. No discussion required. You don't want to send in night actions, that's fine... that's your business.

But please, stop this behavior. Let me know NOW if you're thinking of quitting, and it would be nice if you had... you know.... a real reason for it.

I'm about to pull the plug on this game altogether, in a flight of depression. I'm pretty sure a lot of people would be upset if I did.

I am equally upset that people are fleeing my game for no reason at all. And there were a bunch of you.

Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2010, 04:44
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Day ends at 11:59:59 PM Tuesday, November 2nd, Eastern Time USA



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Sec-Sar Jor stood silently, in the shadows, keeping his eye on one of the weapons lockers. It had been an uneventful shift. He was actually getting tired, hoping that someone would come to relieve him. Right at the proper time, the turbolift opened, and a lone being stepped onto the deck.

Jor recognized the figure, but it wasn't the person who was supposed to replace him, so he waited in the shadows to see what would happen. The figure walked calmly down the corridor, and stood in front of the weapons locker. The figure looked around, and checked the control pad to see if the room had been entered. As soon as the figure did this, Sec-Sar Jor stepped out of the shadows and calmly asked what the cloaked figure was doing.



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Sec-Sar Jor: Pardon me, Master Jedi, but you do not seem to be the person who was meant to relieve me. May I ask why you are here?

The cloaked figure turned, and immediately focused all attention on Sec-Sar Jor. After a few uncomfortable moments of silence, the cloaked figure spoke.

Cloaked figure: I was looking for you, actually.

Sec-Sar Jor: You seem to have found me. Why aren't you at your post?

Cloaked figure: Do not presume to ask me questions, Jor.

Sec-Sar Jor: Very well. In the name of the Galactic Republic, with authorization by the Jedi Council, I am placing you under arrest, Master Jedi.

Cloaked figure: Quite the contrary, you are the one that is under arrest.

The cloaked figure raised its hands and they began to glow. Sec-Sar Jor realized he was in danger, and reached out to the Force to give himself strength, but he was cornered. He raised his hands to defend himself, but it was no use. The cloaked figure unleashed a torrent of electricity from its hands, and the sheer force of the impact threw Sec-Sar Jor against the bulkhead and to the ground. With his connection to the Force, he managed to roll out of the immediate path of the lightning, and attempted to get to his feet, but a second arc of energy hit him in the chest and caused him to stumble. A third arc ricocheted off of the walls of the corridor and shocked Jor in the face. The young Jedi screamed in agony, and tried to crawl to the turbolift. The cloaked figure continued to advance, eyes burning with determination, ignoring the screams of pain. A more powerful wave of lightning burst forth from its hands, and Sec-Sar Jor bellowed one final scream before it all went blank. The figure continued firing, ensuring that Sec-Sar Jor was dead, cooked from the inside, filling the corridor with smoke and ash.

The deed done, the cloaked figure grimly returned to the turbolift, and said nothing more.


Another figure stepped out of the shadows and examined Sec-Sar Jor, but quickly fled the scene.




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Ker-oth Ex kept watch over the Life Support systems. Being able to survive in an oxygen-free environment made him perfectly suited for the task of repairing that system should it be damaged. When Alpha Shift had ended, Ker-oth wondered where the person who was to relieve him was. A half-hour went by, and still no one came to relieve him. Finally he had enough of it, and went over to the comm panel and contacted Nomi Sunrider.

Ker-oth: Your grace, it is past time for me to be relieved, but my Beta Shift counterpart has yet to show. I request assistance.

Nomi Sunrider: I'll be on my way. Keep watch until I get there, Ker-oth.



Satisfied, the armored Jedi returned to his post, only to find a cloaked figure standing in front of him.


Ker-oth: What are you doing here? You're not supposed to be here. Where is Beta Shift?

Unknown: Resting comfortably.

Ker-oth: What do you mean? Are you supposed to be my replacement?

Unknown: I'm here to relieve you....

Ker-oth: That won't be necessary, Grandmaster Sunrider is coming to replace me.

Unknown: Good. I will relieve her as well.

Ker-oth: What are you talking about? I don't need to be relieved!

Unknown: Oh yes, you do.... you're tired. You're exhausted even.




The dark figure stepped forward, smirking.



Unknown: You can barely keep your eyes open. You find it difficult to concentrate.... difficult to stand..... difficult to breathe.... difficult to ponder your short, meaningless existence.

Ker-oth: Don't come any closer! Or I'll.....

Unknown: You'll what? Wave your little gaffi stick at me? You're too tired, master Jedi. You need rest. I'm here to make sure you rest comfortably.




The figure drew a red lightsaber.



Ker-oth: I'm warning you....

Unknown: You need rest.... I'm here to relieve you.... of your miserable life.




The figure drew a second red lightsaber, and flashed an evil grin.



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Ker-oth Ex saw the twin red lightsabers, and froze in place. There was nowhere to go. The only exit in the life support room was covered by the cloaked figure. Ker-oth raised his walking stick in defiance of the cloaked figure, but it was knocked out of his hands in a fraction of a second, along with one of his hands. The other one was cut down just a half a second later, in a blur of shimmering red. The cloaked figure moved faster than the eye could see, hacking the armored crustacean creature into tiny bits, a piece at a time, savoring every moment, relishing in the carnage, laughing as the Jedi screamed in terror. The cloaked figure spun around and leaped forward, following the Ataru form, severing the Jedi's lower limbs and impaling him in the lower thorax.

Ker-oth fell to the ground and could only look up at his attacker in pain and confusion.... what prompted such cruel, sadistic behavior? Was it not enough to simply behead the Jedi, did his attacker really have to prolong and enjoy the process? The battle could have been over in a split second, but it wouldn't have been this much fun.

The cloaked figure stood over him, and swung his lightsabers at the chest of the fallen foe, cleaving the Jedi into pieces, and again. Then, eyes shimmering, the cloaked figure impaled Ker-oth through the skull with both blades, spilling what was left of his cranial cavity all over the deck. The smell of burning flesh was gag-inducing. The figure simply grinned, looking down at the remains of the Jedi, and fled the scene, just before Nomi Sunrider arrived.

The Grandmaster of the Order looked at what was done to the fallen Jedi, and fell to the ground in pain. She nearly wept for him, losing her control.

Nomi Sunrider: No more pain, master Ker-oth. Your death will not have been in vain.

Through the corridors, the sound of dark, sinister laughter permeated everywhere. The nightmare had only just begun.

Nomi ran over to the computer console and quickly checked the security recordings, to find out what had happened to Ker-oth's relieving watchman, Kaz'an Neimoidia. This is what she saw.....






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Security recording....... ACTIVE.

Playback from time index 103124.55, enable.





Kaz'an Neimoidia woke from his brief, uncomfortable sleep. A loud tone alerted him that it was time. Another long night watch, another long day of arguing and bickering, and then, another 6 hours of restless tossing and turning.

He switched on the overhead lighting to see a cloaked figure standing in his quarters. Immediately, Neimoidia knew that his life was in danger, and rolled out of bed and sprinted into the other room. He didn't even look back to see that his bed suddenly burst into flames, and the fire suppression system had been disabled. The cloaked figure followed Kaz'an into the other room, where Kaz'an made his stand.

Neimoidia focused his mind on the Force, and summoned much Force energy to his command. He stood in a defensive pose and raised his hands, ready for his attacker. But his attacker just stood there, staring at him. Staring at him with dark, evil eyes.






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Kaz'an started feeling intense pain... he found it difficult to concentrate, and hold on to his vast reserves of Force power. But still he remained motionless, prepared for the coming attack. But then.... a splitting headache. A sharp pain in the abdomen. Kaz'an's skin began to blister and boil.... and the dark figure continued to stare at him.

Kaz'an began to scream.... he screamed before he even knew he was screaming. He was experiencing agony he had never felt before... never even conceived of before. He fell to his knees, as his blood began to literally boil and his skin began to melt off of his body. His eyeballs exploded, and his Jedi robes burst into flames. The staring continued.

The screams of agony, nightmarish in pitch and volume, began to whimper and fade, as roaring flames engulfed Master Neimoidia. His charred, burning husk collapsed against the duranium deck plating, and continued to burn long after the cloaked figure left his quarters. The other furniture was also engulfed in flames, and the security sensors overloaded.







Security playback....... COMPLETE.

Recording ended at time index 103128.96. No more data available.





______________________




Elsewhere on the ship, a console overloaded and Jedi Initiate Pla-den Krul was instantly and unceremoniously killed.





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Azurine Kadu stood near the doors to one of the Engine reactors, keeping careful watch over the area. At the proper time, the turbolift carrying Beta Shift arrived. Kadu welcomed the relief. The doors opened and a dark figure stepped out onto the deck, not at all who Azurine was expecting.




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Azurine Kadu: Halt! In the name of the Jedi Order, I command you to identify yourself.

Dark figure: I am your executioner.

Azurine Kadu: You..... who are you? What do you want?

Dark figure: Are you deaf, Jedi? I said I want your charred corpse lifeless on the floor plating before me. I want the bodies of all your friends lined up right beside you. I want your precious little Jedi Temple to burn to the ground, and I want everyone who would think of questioning my rule to be put to a slow, painful death. I want to personally slaughter all my enemies, and conquer the planet below us, and all the other planets worthy of my name. I want every single living creature in the galaxy to bow before me. But for now, all I want is for you to be a good little girl and die......

Azurine Kadu: Do you enjoy hearing yourself talk?

Dark figure: Yes.... but I also like watching myself slaughter the weak. I truly hope this is being captured on camera.




The dark figure ignited its lightsaber, which burned crimson red.


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Azurine Kadu centered herself, and waited for the cloaked figure to attack. The cloaked figure stood in a classic Djem So pose, and began to advance and demonstrate its mastery of Form V. Kadu reached out with the Force, at let it trickle through her body. Then she sprang into action, deftly dodging the strikes of the red lightsaber and rolling out of danger.

The cloaked figure, upon seeing this, too reached out with the Force and redoubled his efforts, moving faster, delivering more accurate and deadly strikes, and increasing his strength by a factor of ten. It was all Azurine could do to avoid being cleaved in half, but her agility allowed her to perform a flying somersault over the head of the her attacker, and dodge several more strikes with uncanny timing, moving out of range in a blur of speed.

The cloaked figure became enraged, and rushed forward to cut her down, but the nimble and quick Kadu sprinted down the corridor faster than the cloaked one thought possible. He was close behind her, and prepared one final thrust to finish it. Kadu closed the turbolift doors, just as the red lightsaber punched through and began to melt the doors. Kadu quickly keyed in an emergency override command, and got the turbolift to rise. The blade of the shimmering red saber cut cleanly through the floor of the turbolift as it rose, causing the lift to stall momentarily with a shudder. One of the drive mechanisms was damaged. The lift stalled halfway between the two floors, and Kadu forced open the upper level doors and wriggled free of the turbolift, just as the cloaked attacker below severed the emergency stop mechanism and caused the turbolift to plummet 30 stories to the bottom of the shaft.

Azurine Kadu escaped. A terrifying roar of frustration was heard, and a few moments later, one of the bulkheads was pulled from the superstructure and blown out one of the starboard corridors, and out into space, causing the entire deck to decompress. Someone had turned the emergency structural containment force-fields off.






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Nomi Sunrider - Grandmaster of the Jedi Order






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Nomi Sunrider called the next meeting of the Jedi Council to order, and recounted the events of the previous night, as recorded in the Security Holograms.


"There is no other way to say this. Last night.... we were shown the true power of the Dark Side. So many Jedi lost their lives, that we can only take small comfort in knowing that Azurine Kadu survived. The manner in which these murders were carried out.... is more horrible than I've seen before. The disturbance in the force that I felt before... it has returned. It is also obvious to me that we do not face a single foe... the time indexes from the security holograms indicate that there were at least two cloaked persons attacking us simultaneously. There may be others... I do not know. The Dark Side clouds everything. We still have a lot of work to do if we are to eliminate the Sith.

One of our own was also killed in a tragic accident. I can only suggest, in my sadness, that it was the will of the Force that this youngling was taken from us. No one regrets his departure more than I, because I knew him very well. I knew his family. I knew what kind of Jedi he was destined to become. But that is not to be.

The vision.... has come to me again. I can feel my own death approaching. I must hurry if I am to complete your training.

Clearer our minds must be if we are to find the true villains behind this plot. If a majority of you vote in the allotted time, I will accept your decision. If a majority of you do not vote in the allotted time, I will slow the ship's orbit and give you another 24 hours. Remember that you will be exhausted by the time the discussion is over, if I have to do this. Try to reach a decision before then.


Today, it is only natural that you would be feeling sadness for your fallen comrades. But you must not let your passions cloud your judgment. If there are any emotions you must feel, then remember that your friends have transformed into the Force.... they are not gone from us completely. If you listen carefully, you can still hear them. You must feel the Force.... through it, things you will see, other places. The future, the past, old friends long gone.

Do not despair.... that is also a path to the Dark Side.

Jedi, look at me.....


Look at me."




Nomi smiled.



"The Force is with us. Be of good cheer, for our triumph over the Sith is at hand. We are not beaten, not yet, not by a long shot. At any moment, we could put a stop to the Sith. All we need is for the Force to guide us to the true culprits. And then victory will be inevitable.

Even when I am gone, I will be looking out for you. But before I leave, I have one last request....


Bring me a Sith."



Nomi bowed gracefully before the other Jedi, and returned to her quarters alone, to meditate in solitude.













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Sasaki Kokiro- Sec-sar Jor

Sasaki Kojiro was a Jedi Initiate!

He was Jedi!




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Skooma Addict- Ker-oth Ex

Skooma Addict was a Jedi Initiate!

He was Jedi!




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Yaseikhaan- Kaz'an Neimoidian

Yaseikhaan was a Jedi Initiate!

He was Jedi!




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Romanic- Pla-den Krul

Romanic was a Jedi Initiate!

He was Jedi!













Alive: (56/67)


a completely inoffensive name
Andres
AntiKingWarmancake
ArpeggiateTHIS
Autolycus
Beefy187
Belisarius II
ByzantineKnight
Captain Blackadder
Cecil XIX
Chaotix
choxorn
civplayah
classical_hero
Csargo
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
dcmort93
Death is yonder
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ibn-Khaldun
Ignoramus
Ironside
Jarema
Johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
Kagemusha
Khazaar
landlubber
Link
Major Robert Dump Replaced by Slysnake2
Nictel
Nightbringer
Niklas
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Rebel Jeb
remake20
Renata
Robbiecon
Secura Replaced by Zack2
Seon
Sigurd
Soup567 Replaced by Stuck in Pi2
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Sprig
TheFlax Replaced by Raskolnikov2
Tincow
wideyedwanderer
Winston Hughes Replaced by Double A2
YLC


Dead: (10/67)

Raskolnikov- Jedi Initiate Mas Amdu Kof (Killed Day One)
Slysnake- Jedi Initiate Kerren Cae (Killed Night One)
Stuck in Pi- Jedi Initiate Si-At Unesh (Killed Night One)
Beskar- Jedi Initiate Jax Revus - Sith Apprentice Darth Fermanagh (Killed Night One)
Double A- Jedi Initiate Mun Farlander (Killed Day Two)
Zack- Jedi Initiate Yogal Sec-barr (Killed Night Two)
Yaropolk- Jedi Initiate Yala Edak (Killed Day Three)
Sasaki Kojiro- Jedi Initiate Sec-sar Jor (Killed Night Three)
Skooma Addict- Jedi Initiate Ker-oth Ex (Killed Night Three)
Yaseikhaan- Jedi Initiate Kaz'an Neimoidian (Killed Night Three)


Will of the Force: (1/67)

Romanic- Jedi Initiate Pla-den Krul (WOGed Night Three)







Thread re-opened. Day Phase begins. Night results will take some time, but I am starting to send them out now.

Day ends at 11:59:59 PM Tuesday, November 2nd, Eastern Time USA.... if I have 28 people voting. Otherwise you will be granted an additional 24 hours.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-02-2010, 04:48
:laugh4:

pretendVOTE:Ignoramus

pevergreen
11-02-2010, 05:16
Silly Sasaki.

I'll vote once I get my night PM.

Choxorn
11-02-2010, 05:19
All that time, you were just screwing with everyone. :laugh4:

Csargo
11-02-2010, 05:21
No one tried to kill pever. Why not?

Ignoramus is active which is suspicious.

I'm going with Vote:Sigurd though. Mostly on feeling, his vote yesterday doesn't sit well with me.

Chaotix
11-02-2010, 05:22
Who would not want to play this game?

Even still, I'm glad you're coming around to thinking this way, ATPG. If you signed up for this game, it's expected that you read the rules and that you have both the time and desire to participate. If not, WHY did you sign up at all? You don't even need to participate that much to stay alive, so then why would you give a free kill to the mafia?

WOG's are good, ATPG. They encourage player participation, if nothing else.

And also, please realize that even if you started as an Initiate you can and will get stronger throughout the game.

Anyway...

Vote: Sigurd

For going after Sasaki yesterday. (I think?)

This was not a good night; we lost both Sasaki and khaan, and the mafia appear to be targeting those "high profile" players over others.

EDIT: Wow, Csargo, you ninja.

pevergreen
11-02-2010, 05:28
No one tried to kill pever. Why not?

Ignoramus is active which is suspicious.

I'm going with Vote:Sigurd though. Mostly on feeling, his vote yesterday doesn't sit well with me.

They made the right choice, unfortunately. They could waste plently more time trying to get me. Even if there were two of them, I reckon I could hide, unless they have a specific force power and used it.

Another person in my circle of trust and love.

Vote: Beefy

:shrug: Why not for now.

Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2010, 05:38
I believe that everyone who got updates/results got them in short, blurb form.

I don't have the enthusiasm to give your role PMs the full updates they deserve. That will come later on today, after I've had some sleep and I cheer up.

Padawans, Initiates: It's coming, be patient. Good things come to those who wait.

Csargo
11-02-2010, 05:59
They made the right choice, unfortunately. They could waste plently more time trying to get me. Even if there were two of them, I reckon I could hide, unless they have a specific force power and used it.

Another person in my circle of trust and love.

Vote: Beefy

:shrug: Why not for now.

Voting Beefy for no reason? :shame: There are better people to vote, like Sigurd for instance.

a completely inoffensive name
11-02-2010, 06:12
I WANNA KNOW WHO THIS MYSTERIOUS FIGURE IS CHECKING OUT SASAKI AFTER HE DIED! UNTIL THEN HIDE YOU KIDS, HIDE YOU WIFE CAUSE THIS GUY BE EXAMINING EVERYBODY!

pevergreen
11-02-2010, 06:16
Voting Beefy for no reason? :shame: There are better people to vote, like Sigurd for instance.

Kk

Unvote: beefy, Vote: Sigurd

a completely inoffensive name
11-02-2010, 06:17
Kk

Unvote: beefy, Vote: Sigurd

WHY ARE YOU CHANGING YOUR VOTE SO EASILY? TRYING NOT TO ROCK THE BOAT PEVERGREEN HUH?

FOS: ON THIS GUY RIGHT HERE ------>Pevergreen

Csargo
11-02-2010, 06:24
Doesn't want to get lynched. I wonder why. Why FoS him when you could vote him? WHY?

pevergreen
11-02-2010, 06:30
WHY ARE YOU CHANGING YOUR VOTE SO EASILY? TRYING NOT TO ROCK THE BOAT PEVERGREEN HUH?

FOS: ON THIS GUY RIGHT HERE ------>Pevergreen

NICE FOS ON THE ONLY GUY YOU CAN ALL TRUST.

STRONG REASONING

CAPS LOCK

Choxorn
11-02-2010, 06:38
Vote: ACIN

Pressure Vote.

ULC
11-02-2010, 06:56
Odd number of attacks is odd. I'd like to go out on a limb and say one of the attacks hasn't a Sith source, but I'll wait another night for that.

Not sure whom I should vote - I usually don't get enough time on to let any specific person pique my interests - but can anyone answer where dear Renata is? Haven't heard much from her, am I missing her posts as I skim?

Csargo
11-02-2010, 07:02
Odd number of attacks is odd. I'd like to go out on a limb and say one of the attacks hasn't a Sith source, but I'll wait another night for that.

Not sure whom I should vote - I usually don't get enough time on to let any specific person pique my interests - but can anyone answer where dear Renata is? Haven't heard much from her, am I missing her posts as I skim?

Same number of attacks as night one. How is that odd?

Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2010, 07:06
"Ker-oth Ex is now an ex Ker-oth", Askthepizzaguy noted wryly.

a completely inoffensive name
11-02-2010, 07:08
Vote: ACIN

Pressure Vote.

VOTE: CHOXORN

DEPRESSURIZING VOTE.

a completely inoffensive name
11-02-2010, 07:13
NICE FOS ON THE ONLY GUY YOU CAN ALL TRUST.

STRONG REASONING

CAPS LOCK

THE ONLY PERSON I TRUSTED IS MARCO WHO DELIVERS MY PIZZAS BUT THAT WAS ONLY UNTIL I CAUGHT HIM HELPING A 12 YEAR OLD DUDE WHO CRASHED INTO A NEIGHBORS CAR. AND HERE I THOUGHT YOU CARED ABOUT THE QUALITY OF MY PIZZA MARCO, COLD PIZZA IS BAD PIZZA WHEN ITS LEFT OUT WHILE YOU PLAY HUMANITARIAN.

CAPS LOCK IS SO EVERYONE KNOWS I HAVE POSTED AND DONT VOTE ME FOR BEING "SUSPICIOUSLY QUIET" I NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE BEING VOTED OFF FOR BEING "SUSPICIOUSLY LOUD" ONLY FOR BEING "A LOUD ********" BUT I AM NOT BEING A ******** IM JUST LOOKING OUT FOR THE TOWN.

pevergreen
11-02-2010, 07:19
Unvote: Sigurd, Vote: ACIN

Annoying > Ichigo.

Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2010, 07:22
VOTE: CHOXORN

DEPRESSURIZING VOTE.

I do think this is glossary-worthy.

a completely inoffensive name
11-02-2010, 07:23
Unvote: Sigurd, Vote: ACIN

Annoying > Ichigo.

And here I thought you were a team player.

I'm going to be serious here now and go with a Unvote; Vote: Sigurd I think.

ULC
11-02-2010, 07:39
Same number of attacks as night one. How is that odd?

Sorry, but I see 3 Sith attacks, 1 oddball, and a possible Vig/Third Party on N1 and 2 Sith attacks on N2.

Yet there are now 4 apparent Sith attacks?

pevergreen
11-02-2010, 07:50
Cause Jedi can't be swayed.

Jarema
11-02-2010, 08:18
I believe in Pevergreen.
So, vote: a completely inoffensive name

a completely inoffensive name
11-02-2010, 08:19
Ugh another mafia game where me fooling around gets me killed and practically gives the mafia a free day to recruit and kill.

ULC
11-02-2010, 08:43
Cause Jedi can't be swayed.

So you don't think the game follows the rule of two?

pevergreen
11-02-2010, 08:49
So you don't think the game follows the rule of two?

^^^ Sarcasm.

They can, but they can also not be. I'm finding more that can't be.

@ACIN: Its not serious, you shouldn't be lynched for what you've done so far.
@Jarema: I have no idea who you are, but you should follow that train of thought all game, every game.

Choxorn
11-02-2010, 08:55
VOTE: CHOXORN

DEPRESSURIZING VOTE.

Ack! I must grab onto something and wait for the force-field to turn on, lest I be sucked out into space and die by depressurization!

Ibn-Khaldun
11-02-2010, 08:57
Vote: Niklas

Beefy187
11-02-2010, 09:00
Its ACIN or Choxorn for me right now.
Sigurd close third.

Coin toss tells me Choxorn.
Vote: Choxorn

Jarema
11-02-2010, 09:03
@Jarema: I have no idea who you are, but you should follow that train of thought all game, every game.

I bet you want it :)

Andres
11-02-2010, 09:13
Vote : Nightbringer

ULC
11-02-2010, 09:37
^^^ Sarcasm.

They can, but they can also not be. I'm finding more that can't be.

@ACIN: Its not serious, you shouldn't be lynched for what you've done so far.
@Jarema: I have no idea who you are, but you should follow that train of thought all game, every game.

I realized it was sarcasm, I was just hoping it had a point.

Sprig
11-02-2010, 09:38
Vote: Jarema, he is far too agreeable.

ArpeggiateTHIS
11-02-2010, 10:10
Vote: Jarema, he is far too agreeable.

I agree with this.

Vote: Jarema. For believing in pever.

But..wait..gah..in agreeing i'm now a hypocrite!

Unvote; Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS.

But that's how I roll.

Unvote; Vote: Jarema

pevergreen
11-02-2010, 10:14
Yeah, maybe less sillyness.

Some people are able to be converted, some arent. Thats how it looks now.

Khazaar
11-02-2010, 10:16
What? Vote: ATHIS

Set Phasers to stun...

ArpeggiateTHIS
11-02-2010, 10:31
Yeah, maybe less sillyness.

:(


What? Vote: ATHIS

Set Phasers to stun...

Perhaps I did just post random nonsense there. It's early in the morning, I've just woken up and I've got an economics lecture in half an hour. Caffeine and/or sleep deprivation.

classical_hero
11-02-2010, 11:26
To much is hpappening and I am tired after a busy day at work, so I just think that vote:ACIN could be worth it.

naut
11-02-2010, 11:28
OH SO TEMPTED TO VOTE ACIN FOR CAPS LOCK!


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Sorry, but I see 3 Sith attacks, 1 oddball, and a possible Vig/Third Party on N1 and 2 Sith attacks on N2.

Yet there are now 4 apparent Sith attacks?
Thinking logically. The last game had rule of two, and it's pretty central to the whole Star Wars galaxy lore. So if there are 3-4 Sith attacks, divide that by two (for rule of two) you get two separate Sith factions. In a game pretty much as big as Capo, 4 kills by two "families" makes a whole lot of sense IMHO. However, that doesn't account for the fluctuations of kills over the course of multiple nights. Speculating over game mechanics is a pretty dead-end street though, something to consider, but not really worry over.


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For y'all consideration Seon: Can't have smoke (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/search.php?searchid=6496072) without a fire.

Vote: Seon

Andres
11-02-2010, 11:56
Is ACIN being lynched just for using cap locks or is there another reason?

DELETE_THIS
11-02-2010, 12:05
Is ACIN being lynched just for using cap locks or is there another reason?

Don't you know that Caps Lock leads to suffering!

TinCow
11-02-2010, 12:12
Its ACIN or Choxorn for me right now.
Sigurd close third.

Coin toss tells me Choxorn.
Vote: Choxorn

You just listed the people who had already received votes, then tossed a coin between them? Lazy...

Vote: Beefy

dcmort93
11-02-2010, 12:27
Hmmmm random Vote Sigurd

Seon
11-02-2010, 12:29
@Psychonaut: In Soviet Russia, fire smokes you...

Anyways, Vote: Ibn for that random vote.

Diamondeye
11-02-2010, 12:46
FOS: Ibn Khaldun
FOS: Choxorn
Vote: ACIN

Those posts really triggered me. I think ACIN's worth trying.

Death is yonder
11-02-2010, 12:53
Odd number of attacks is odd. I'd like to go out on a limb and say one of the attacks hasn't a Sith source, but I'll wait another night for that.

Not sure whom I should vote - I usually don't get enough time on to let any specific person pique my interests - but can anyone answer where dear Renata is? Haven't heard much from her, am I missing her posts as I skim?

I believe that its valid, primarily with the choice of diction in the kill:



Cloaked figure: Quite the contrary, you are the one that is under arrest.



The deed done, the cloaked figure grimly returned to the turbolift, and said nothing more.

Rather than the sith kill of :


The smell of burning flesh was gag-inducing. The figure simply grinned, looking down at the remains of the Jedi,

I don't see all the hate on Jarema, considering how its plausible that he could be agreeable with pever considering the fact that pever has been attacked (by sith was it?) multiple times already and has survived.

Vote: Sprig

Care to explain rather than just taking the easy vote out?

Renata
11-02-2010, 13:11
Odd number of attacks is odd. I'd like to go out on a limb and say one of the attacks hasn't a Sith source, but I'll wait another night for that.

Not sure whom I should vote - I usually don't get enough time on to let any specific person pique my interests - but can anyone answer where dear Renata is? Haven't heard much from her, am I missing her posts as I skim?

Apparently, dear YLC. :inquisitive:

Renata
11-02-2010, 13:16
Vote: Niklas

The guy who it's been stated never actually meant to join the game, and who will be wogged as soon as the stated deadline is reached?

Renata
11-02-2010, 13:17
Ugh another mafia game where me fooling around gets me killed and practically gives the mafia a free day to recruit and kill.

Easy solution to that -- don't fool around. That said, do you usually complain about it?

Renata
11-02-2010, 13:31
Okay caught up --

Can we get some votes on soup, please?

He posts a bunch of fluffity-fluff on day one (mostly game-mechanics stuff), culminating with this gem of insight in post 265 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053220744&highlight=#post2053220744).

[url=https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053220798&viewfull=1#post205322079815 posts and two hours later[/url], Chaotix votes him, for the reason that he's been posting a lot without saying anything.

Soup hasn't been seen in these parts since. I voted him last phase.

Now keep in mind that this is the guy who once got me lynched almost single-handedly when he started an OMGUS-you-horrible-mafia-you!(I was, but that's beside the point) bandwagon on me after I voted him for a typically-stupid day two reason in a game over at CFC. For him to ignore an accusation is out of character. For him to ignore two is very out of character. It seems unlikely he didn't see Chaotix' vote at least, since he was posting continuously until just two hours beforehand.

vote:soup

Renata
11-02-2010, 13:32
Coding fail.

Here's the second link. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play&p=2053220798&viewfull=1#post2053220798)

Sigurd
11-02-2010, 13:34
Hmmmm random Vote Sigurd
Random? Certainly not. Opportunistic in all forms, hence FoS on you.

So, Sasaki was not guilty after all and by making him so, did not save him either. The Sith either believed Sasaki was the real thing or believed I was intentionally putting him into the mid causeway for protection and hoping by killing him they would frame me. Haha, the Jedi is too smart for you.

The initiates are being wasted but the heavy Jedi is maturing. Soon you will see Jedi with the power to oppose you.

pevergreen
11-02-2010, 13:36
Your quintiple post has moved me.

Unvote, Vote: soup

edit: @sigurd: they've seen, and I'm the weak one. :wink:

Renata
11-02-2010, 13:44
Who are you voting for, Sigurd?

I agree with the FOS, regardless -- very opportunistic. I think he did something scummy early on, too. Maybe I should be voting him.

autolycus
11-02-2010, 14:08
Renata's case on soup looks as good as anything I've seen.
vote; soup

Csargo
11-02-2010, 14:16
Sorry, but I see 3 Sith attacks, 1 oddball, and a possible Vig/Third Party on N1 and 2 Sith attacks on N2.

Yet there are now 4 apparent Sith attacks?

4? There were three kills and one WoG. 2 that were clearly Sith and 1 that could be or something else.

Andres
11-02-2010, 14:25
Vote : soup

Also, I'm highly disappointed that I've not been under suspicion this game. Behaving silly is a known scumtell for me, yet nobody picked up on it. I'm going to FoS : 'khaan in particular for this, since he once got me lynched in a small game I was mafia in for exactly that reason.

Zack
11-02-2010, 14:26
Vote: soup

TinCow
11-02-2010, 14:27
FOS: Andres

naut
11-02-2010, 14:55
Also, I'm highly disappointed that I've not been under suspicion this game. Behaving silly is a known scumtell for me, yet nobody picked up on it.
I definitely noticed it. Seon's also playing that style of game. It's a good way for scum to deflect attention/appear active/not give away anything. Maybe it's his scumtell too?

Renata
11-02-2010, 15:02
It's Seon's Seon tell, as far as I can tell. But you could be right, regardless -- he has a tendency to just disappear altogether when hes' plain vanilla. He told me he should have gotten the crazy guy role.

I'm having second thoughts about soup. Apparently he has not turned up here (visibly anyway) since the 28th. Which is still 2 days past that vote of Chaotix', but still.

naut
11-02-2010, 15:10
'm having second thoughts about soup. Apparently he has not turned up here (visibly anyway) since the 28th. Which is still 2 days past that vote of Chaotix', but still.
Wasn't he replaced by Stuck in Pi?

Seon
11-02-2010, 15:16
It's Seon's Seon tell, as far as I can tell. But you could be right, regardless -- he has a tendency to just disappear altogether when hes' plain vanilla. He told me he should have gotten the crazy guy role.

I has my own tell? (is honored)

Sasaki Kojiro
11-02-2010, 15:27
To much is hpappening and I am tired after a busy day at work, so I just think that vote:ACIN could be worth it.

This guy still needs to die at some point...

Captain Blackadder
11-02-2010, 15:32
Vote Soup

I thought he was scum last time and I still think he is scum

ULC
11-02-2010, 15:33
4? There were three kills and one WoG. 2 that were clearly Sith and 1 that could be or something else.

I said "attacks", not "kills". DIY brings up a good point, besides the fact that would make two seperate vigilantes at face value.

Sigurd
11-02-2010, 15:37
Vote : soup

Also, I'm highly disappointed that I've not been under suspicion this game. Behaving silly is a known scumtell for me, yet nobody picked up on it. I'm going to FoS : 'khaan in particular for this, since he once got me lynched in a small game I was mafia in for exactly that reason.
FoS: Andres. Why FoS someone who was killed and confirmed a Jedi Initiate? A typical "I'll fake that I don't know what is going on" routine. We are on to you Andres.


Wasn't he replaced by Stuck in Pi?
Yeah... Soup has been replaced - people should stop voting for someone not playing. It is rather ridiculous. :beam: Who leaves the game as a Sith anyway?

Kagemusha
11-02-2010, 15:38
Vote: Andres Something is certainly off with you. First you vote Nightbringer then you dont unvote and jump the Soup bandwagon.In the same post you Fos Yaseikhaan who is already dead. Like you wouldnt know better. You claimed that you were some sort of non harmfull character, but we havent witnessed anything after the funny attack of the first night.

pevergreen
11-02-2010, 15:41
Yeah... Soup has been replaced - people should stop voting for someone not playing. It is rather ridiculous. :beam: Who leaves the game as a Sith anyway?

Do I detect a hint of Andresthenotsocunninganymore? :wink:

FoS: Sigurd/Tincow for their suspicion of Andres.

My eye is on CB. Going with the flow.

Unvote, Vote: Capt. Blackadder

Andres
11-02-2010, 15:45
Finally, I get the attention I'm craving for.

Unvote ; Vote : Andres

*** Does disappear trick and won't return for the next 3 days, enjoying in advance how people will have sleepless nights because they don't know what to make of all that ***

Andres
11-02-2010, 15:47
FoS: Sigurd/Tincow for their suspicion of Andres.



You forgot Kagemusha.

Renata
11-02-2010, 15:48
Oh geez Louise. It's like people expect me to read what ATPG has to say, or something.

unvote

I think I'll try Sigurd's vote: dcmort, then. Lemme see if I can go find that previous post.

Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2010, 15:51
Yeah... Soup has been replaced - people should stop voting for someone not playing. It is rather ridiculous. :beam: Who leaves the game as a Sith anyway?


You forgot Kagemusha.

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/EPYC/PWNLAND.jpg

naut
11-02-2010, 15:54
My eye is on CB. Going with the flow.

Unvote, Vote: Capt. Blackadder
I'm not convinced. His only other post (below) is consistent. Scum aren't consistent. They vote willy nilly and often go back on themselves on a whim for no good reason.


vote: soup

Seems to be trying too hard to appear town stating the obvious like the death of two townies last night being a bad thing.


---

dcmort (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/search.php?searchid=6502349)? Looking through those, I'd have to say he wouldn't be the worst lynch.

Andres
11-02-2010, 15:56
You claimed that you were some sort of non harmfull character, but we havent witnessed anything after the funny attack of the first night.

Pizza didn't want to continue it, because it would confirm my innocence (as if my innocence wasn't confirmed with that first "attack" already, pfuh) ~:(

I'm confirmed innocent and I can't be nightkilled. I can allow myself some frivolities in this game.

You're all jealous now, aren't you?

Nanananana!

johnhughthom
11-02-2010, 15:56
Vote: Sprig

Same again.

Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2010, 15:57
posting links to searches doesn't display anything. Better is to do this:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=131243

Then click the number next to the name in question.




edit: Or, the search function is still broken and that doesn't work. Great!

TosaInu, I need you~

Renata
11-02-2010, 16:03
Yeah, I have seven posts on dcmort --

1. vote Raskolnikov
2. deny it was a bandwagon vote, was only random.org
3. "So I've kinda been following the thread and I would like to know what the case on DE is before I vote for him " (The post I was thinking of, otherwise known as "tell me how to vote, oh townies")
4. vote new Raskolnikov
5. fluff about wideyed
6. "Vote: Joooray. You are playing way too much like last time I was with you and you turned out to be mafia after it was all said and done." (I don't know what game he's referring to, but maybe dcmort could explain what he had in mind.)
7. Random vote Sigurd. (except under the circumstances it's obviously not random)

So we actually have twice that he bandwagoned while denying that it was a bandwagon vote, one vote for Joooray that might be sensible (or might not), and trying to get other people to tell him which way to jump. I agree with myself; it's not a bad lead.

Sigurd
11-02-2010, 16:06
Do I detect a hint of Andresthenotsocunninganymore? :wink:

I have never participated in any such follies.



*** Does disappear trick and won't return for the next 3 days, enjoying in advance how people will have sleepless nights because they don't know what to make of all that ***


You forgot Kagemusha.
O'rly?? Just made you a liar with that second post there. double FoS



I think I'll try Sigurd's vote: dcmort, then. Lemme see if I can go find that previous post.
STRAWMAN!!
I only FoS'ed the guy. Any scared townie are opportunists.

pevergreen
11-02-2010, 16:06
Im going to bed. Someone post who we should lynch by when I wake up.

autolycus
11-02-2010, 16:08
Well, if soup's going to behave like that...
unvote: soup, vote: Andres. Taunting is not the way of the light side.

Andres
11-02-2010, 16:11
O'rly?? Just made you a liar with that second post there. double FoS


I bought the trick from a second hand disappearence tricks salesman. Apparently, it only starts to work after 570 years. Gah.

Renata
11-02-2010, 16:11
STRAWMAN!!
I only FoS'ed the guy. Any scared townie are opportunists.

Your idea. Are you now trying to evade responsibility? :inquisitive:

Andres
11-02-2010, 16:13
Vote: Andres Something is certainly off with you. First you vote Nightbringer then you dont unvote and jump the Soup bandwagon.In the same post you Fos Yaseikhaan who is already dead. Like you wouldnt know better. You claimed that you were some sort of non harmfull character, but we havent witnessed anything after the funny attack of the first night.

What's wrong with voting Nightbringer? Which convincing case can you present to us against another player who is more lynch worthy than the honorable Nightbringer?

Sigurd
11-02-2010, 16:15
Your idea. Are you now trying to evade responsibility? :inquisitive:
Again a new strawman. Show me where I uttered: Let's lynch this guy. There is a SEA of difference between a FoS and a vote, or haven't you initiates been taught this yet?

Kagemusha
11-02-2010, 16:16
What's wrong with voting Nightbringer? Which convincing case can you present to us against another player who is more lynch worthy than the honorable Nightbringer?

Your vote against Nightbringer was not suspicious, but everything after it.

Andres
11-02-2010, 16:17
Your vote against Nightbringer was not suspicious, but everything after it.

Suspicious? How exactly?

Kagemusha
11-02-2010, 16:21
Suspicious? How exactly?

I explained earlier in the post you quoted. You vote people without unvoting, fos dead players etc. You dont strike me as someone who doesnt know what he is doing in a mafia game, thus i think you are acting suspicious. Now i dont really know really what to think about your claim that you cant be killed during nights, while somehow your role as some sort of joker role got cancelled. Is there something else there to know about you?

TinCow
11-02-2010, 16:23
FoS: All those going after Andres.

Andres is a cunning player, but he's not the type to intentionally draw votes onto himself as mafia... at least not unless he's protecting someone else. Mafo-Andres gets silly and provocative once he's a dead mafioso, not when he's a living mafioso. His current behavior is not consistent with him being scum. Those going after him seem be leaping at the opportunity to grasp at 'easy' suspicion. It's voting without any real thought. Of all those participating, there is one person who should seriously know better...

Unvote; Vote: Kage

Renata
11-02-2010, 16:31
Again a new strawman. Show me where I uttered: Let's lynch this guy. There is a SEA of difference between a FoS and a vote, or haven't you initiates been taught this yet?

Nobody teaches me anything. Three nights, one lousy new power. But anyway: I never said or even meant to imply that you had said "let's lynch dcmort". But you WERE the person to bring him up as someone worthy of suspicion. Can we at least agree on that much?

seireikhaan
11-02-2010, 16:34
TC is correct in his reasoning. Everyone should be voting for Kage. Now. :stare:

Sasaki Kojiro
11-02-2010, 16:35
die, Kage, die!

Renata
11-02-2010, 16:37
*sigh* Okay.

unvote, vote: Kagemusha

Joooray
11-02-2010, 16:46
6. "Vote: Joooray. You are playing way too much like last time I was with you and you turned out to be mafia after it was all said and done." (I don't know what game he's referring to, but maybe dcmort could explain what he had in mind.)

He refers to the Star Wars game over at twcenter.net, there I had the cover role of C3PO and he was R2D2, but I was actually Grand Moff Tarkin, so I can understand him being a bit upset about that. However, I still think that's a very easy vote and in combination with the other things you mentioned, I fell he is a good choice at some point as well.

Now Kage seems to be the person of choice Vote: Kage.

Andres
11-02-2010, 16:46
I explained earlier in the post you quoted. You vote people without unvoting, fos dead players etc. You dont strike me as someone who doesnt know what he is doing in a mafia game, thus i think you are acting suspicious. Now i dont really know really what to think about your claim that you cant be killed during nights, while somehow your role as some sort of joker role got cancelled. Is there something else there to know about you?

Of course I didn't unvote, since my vote for soup was invalid :wink: I didn't have to unvote.

And yes, I fos'ed 'khaan, because he should have been going after me based on past experience in a previous game.



FoS: All those going after Andres.

Andres is a cunning player, but he's not the type to intentionally draw votes onto himself as mafia... at least not unless he's protecting someone else. Mafo-Andres gets silly and provocative once he's a dead mafioso, not when he's a living mafioso. His current behavior is not consistent with him being scum. Those going after him seem be leaping at the opportunity to grasp at 'easy' suspicion. It's voting without any real thought. Of all those participating, there is one person who should seriously know better...

Unvote; Vote: Kage

That's what has been going on for the entire game so far; you can accuse several people of that.

Andres
11-02-2010, 16:47
He refers to the Star Wars game over at twcenter.net, there I had the cover role of C3PO and he was R2D2, but I was actually Grand Moff Tarkin, so I can understand him being a bit upset about that. However, I still think that's a very easy vote and in combination with the other things you mentioned, I fell he is a good choice at some point as well.

Now Kage seems to be the person of choice Vote: Kage.

Why is Kage the better option?

Kagemusha
11-02-2010, 16:51
So i should be lynched because to me Andres is acting suspicious? Unvote and Vote: Jooray, bit anxious to get into the bandwagon?

Andres
11-02-2010, 16:52
So i should be lynched because to me Andres is acting suspicious? Unvote and Vote: Jooray, bit anxious to get into the bandwagon?

That's scummy and you know it.

Kagemusha
11-02-2010, 16:54
That's scummy and you know it.

Surely. "Makes a note. Never, ever vote Andres, or the badwagon will run you over immediately".:drama1:

Joooray
11-02-2010, 16:54
Why is Kage the better option?

Because Sasaki said so?! :shrug:
And I feel the case TC expressed has validity to it and I prefer it to the case on Sigurd, who I believe still has some votes on him and so to make sure Kage is lynched and not Sigurd I'll follow the Kage-vote for now.

Sigurd
11-02-2010, 16:55
Nobody teaches me anything. Three nights, one lousy new power. But anyway: I never said or even meant to imply that you had said "let's lynch dcmort". But you WERE the person to bring him up as someone worthy of suspicion. Can we at least agree on that much?
Don't mind me, My old and aching Jedi joints makes me quarrelsome.


*sigh* Okay.

A Sith!!!? Where?
Now, where did I put my mighty purple crystal powered lightsaver?

Andres
11-02-2010, 16:59
Surely. "Makes a note. Never, ever vote Andres, or the badwagon will run you over immediately".:drama1:

It's not my fault people worship my awesomeness and are prepared to lynch whoever dares to question my integrity :shrug:

Kagemusha
11-02-2010, 17:07
It's not my fault people worship my awesomeness and are prepared to lynch whoever dares to question my integrity :shrug:

Well i guess i better start dressing into my survival suit then. Otherwise. The dead howling for my death specially Khaan~;) is nothing new in these games, not Tincow to that matter, while he seems inconsistent Fossing you and then voting me for raising similar suspicions. For Renata hopping the wagon so easily is bit surprising, but Jooray seems blatantly wagoning, so i think the best lynch is Jooray.

Diamondeye
11-02-2010, 17:09
Im going to bed. Someone post who we should lynch by when I wake up.

Dcmort.


FoS: All those going after Andres.

Andres is a cunning player, but he's not the type to intentionally draw votes onto himself as mafia... at least not unless he's protecting someone else. Mafo-Andres gets silly and provocative once he's a dead mafioso, not when he's a living mafioso. His current behavior is not consistent with him being scum. Those going after him seem be leaping at the opportunity to grasp at 'easy' suspicion. It's voting without any real thought. Of all those participating, there is one person who should seriously know better...

This. Even despite his earlier (not very factually based) case against me, I'd say voting Andres is the wrong move.


Nobody teaches me anything. Three nights, one lousy new power. But anyway: I never said or even meant to imply that you had said "let's lynch dcmort". But you WERE the person to bring him up as someone worthy of suspicion. Can we at least agree on that much?

At least you've learnt any new powers. Guess who's still stuck with Breath and a single, tiny defense power?


So i should be lynched because to me Andres is acting suspicious? Unvote and Vote: Jooray, bit anxious to get into the bandwagon?

I'm really stumped on this as well. There is no reason to vote Kagemusha.
I'm going to unvote: ACIN, FOS: ACIN, Vote: dcmort.

Also, Nightbringer, why so quiet?

Last: Join Haiku Mafia. We need to get a small game running! Link in sig!
(... sorry for advertising!)

Renata
11-02-2010, 17:19
Don't mind me, My old and aching Jedi joints makes me quarrelsome.


A Sith!!!? Where?
Now, where did I put my mighty purple crystal powered lightsaver?

Up your ... hmm, yes, well.

Andres
11-02-2010, 17:24
D_E, what's the case on dcmort?

Renata
11-02-2010, 17:24
Er, Diamondeye? I know I'm currently thinking you're a townie and all, but ...

You agree with TinCow's FOS of all those who are going after Andres, but think there's no reason to vote Kagemusha, who is ... going after Andres? Logic, please?

For me, in re Kagemusha, it is that his accusation post appears to ignore the critical difference between acting suspicious and "acting" suspicious. Andres is clearly doing the latter. When Kagemusha says that Andres "should know better", it appears that he's accusing him of the former.

Weird is not scummy. Not by default, anyway. The majority of the time, it's just weird. But heck if scumbags don't like to vote for it.

Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2010, 17:27
Now accepting large cash bribes for information about the game. :tongue2: No checks, I don't trust you guys, you seem sleazy.

Game setup information: $299.99 or 6 easy payments of $49.99
Name a Jedi Knight: $499.99 or 10 easy payments of $49.99
Name a Jedi Master: $999.99 or 10 easy payments of $99.99
Name a Sith: $1599.99 or 20 easy payments of $79.99
Name everyone in the game, and I'll wear lipstick and fishnet stockings and dance around for you: $4999.99 or one easy payment of $4999.99. (Don't be a cheapskate)
"Other" services: Gonna be expensive. And I have to be honest, I am not that sexy in lingerie. How much you got?

Andres
11-02-2010, 17:27
For Renata hopping the wagon so easily is bit surprising, but Jooray seems blatantly wagoning, so i think the best lynch is Jooray.

He provided his reasons for his vote after I asked him.

TinCow
11-02-2010, 17:42
So i should be lynched because to me Andres is acting suspicious?

The problem is that you didn't go after Andres until after Andres himself had started complaining that no one was accusing him. You essentially jumped on him just because he drew attention to himself in a humorous manner.


Tincow to that matter, while he seems inconsistent Fossing you and then voting me for raising similar suspicions.

I thought it was obvious that my FOS of Andres was a joke. Andres was complaining of no one suspecting him of anything, so I FOSed him to make him feel better. It was an attempt at humor.

TinCow
11-02-2010, 17:45
For me, in re Kagemusha, it is that his accusation post appears to ignore the critical difference between acting suspicious and "acting" suspicious. Andres is clearly doing the latter. When Kagemusha says that Andres "should know better", it appears that he's accusing him of the former.

Precisely. :yes:

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
11-02-2010, 17:52
Which is why I'm voting for;


Vote:Andres

Renata
11-02-2010, 18:07
LOL.

There I go taking the game all seriously and stuff, and a post like that comes along.

Carry on!

Kagemusha
11-02-2010, 18:13
The problem is that you didn't go after Andres until after Andres himself had started complaining that no one was accusing him. You essentially jumped on him just because he drew attention to himself in a humorous manner.



I thought it was obvious that my FOS of Andres was a joke. Andres was complaining of no one suspecting him of anything, so I FOSed him to make him feel better. It was an attempt at humor.

So because Andres is playing humorous game he is above suspicion? Maybe you should take a look at Daggers in the night and see how i played it? It could be that Andres is just messing around, but that does not make him a holy cow, who is above suspicion. I am trying to find mafia and i wont exclude anyone from that search as smart mafia player will use any trick in the book to win a game.
If you want to find mafia try put yourself in their shoes and think how they would react in certain situation. That is my bit of advice to you.

Beskar
11-02-2010, 18:26
Don't kill Andres, whatever you do!

Frozen In Ice
11-02-2010, 18:44
I find myself highly agreeable with Renata's argument against Vote: dcmort. At the same time I find it odd that Renata was so willing to drop her reasoning, especially considering it makes a lot of sense. For that I am suspicious of Renata. No fingers involved however; I don't find them very suspicious.

ByzantineKnight
11-02-2010, 19:00
Vote: Diana Abnoba

Just looking at her posts

Renata
11-02-2010, 19:02
Specifics plz.

Chaotix
11-02-2010, 19:18
Hrmm....

Are we dropping the Sigurd case so soon?

dcmort's post, as soon as I saw it (and I read the thread from the beginning of the day phase) struck me as very scummy. The case on Kagemusha seems kind of thin, but the subtleties of it may just be escaping me. While I wouldn't go so far as to vote for Andres, I do agree that we need to keep an eye on him and can't just give him a free pass because he's acting silly. I find one of the best ways to deflect serious attention is by acting silly.

So..

Unvote, Vote: dcmort

You may be able to change my mind.

Beskar
11-02-2010, 19:43
dcmort is definitely the better choice. :yes:

slysnake
11-02-2010, 19:49
Hrmm....

Are we dropping the Sigurd case so soon?

dcmort's post, as soon as I saw it (and I read the thread from the beginning of the day phase) struck me as very scummy. The case on Kagemusha seems kind of thin, but the subtleties of it may just be escaping me. While I wouldn't go so far as to vote for Andres, I do agree that we need to keep an eye on him and can't just give him a free pass because he's acting silly. I find one of the best ways to deflect serious attention is by acting silly.

So..

Unvote, Vote: dcmort

You may be able to change my mind.

I agree, the case against Sigurd was flawed from the start, so I vote: dcmort

Renata
11-02-2010, 19:55
I can't believe you got killed by an Initiate, Beskar. That's just sad, you know?

slysnake -- why was the case against Sigurd flawed? That *wasn't* what Chaotix implied, by the way. Rather the opposite.

ByzantineKnight
11-02-2010, 20:03
Specifics plz.

Bandwagoning mostly but inconsistent behavior as well

Seon
11-02-2010, 20:10
Dcmort should find a mortician soon.

Seon
11-02-2010, 20:12
Ah ****, I forgot to unvote, Vote dcmort.

Csargo
11-02-2010, 20:32
I said "attacks", not "kills". DIY brings up a good point, besides the fact that would make two seperate vigilantes at face value.

Ah, my bad then.

So no one wants to lynch Sigurd then? :cry:

Unvote, Vote:YLC

Renata
11-02-2010, 20:38
Bandwagoning mostly but inconsistent behavior as well

Specifics plz. :)

Sasaki Kojiro
11-02-2010, 20:50
I still wonder why Ignoramus was so concerned about the game being stopped that he posted a thread about it...enjoying being a Sith?

robbiecon
11-02-2010, 20:51
First of all can I say ATPG's bribe post was great. Secondly a joke:

"a man walks into a restaurant and orders a bowl of soup.
He says to the waiter 'taste the soup',
'What's wrong is is cold?',
'No just taste the soup' the man replies.
'What is there a fly in it?',
'No, just taste the soup',
'ok, where's the spoon?',
'A-ha, ...A-ha'"

Hope you get the reference, anyway,

vote:soup , even though the tide has turned towards dcmort, I think soup is a more likely candidate.

Diamondeye
11-02-2010, 21:00
Er, Diamondeye? I know I'm currently thinking you're a townie and all, but ...

You agree with TinCow's FOS of all those who are going after Andres, but think there's no reason to vote Kagemusha, who is ... going after Andres? Logic, please?

For me, in re Kagemusha, it is that his accusation post appears to ignore the critical difference between acting suspicious and "acting" suspicious. Andres is clearly doing the latter. When Kagemusha says that Andres "should know better", it appears that he's accusing him of the former.

Weird is not scummy. Not by default, anyway. The majority of the time, it's just weird. But heck if scumbags don't like to vote for it.

I agreed with the spirit of TinCow's post; I think it's wrong to jump Andres because of behaviour. That's what I was trying to communicate in quoting TinCow.
To me, Kagemusha doesn't look like scum, even if he did point a finger at Andres. I just think he was a misled townie.


Vote: Diana Abnoba

Just looking at her posts


Specifics plz.

This.


I still wonder why Ignoramus was so concerned about the game being stopped that he posted a thread about it...enjoying being a Sith?

:bow: Well spotted, and I wholeheartedly agree. If this game is so precarious to you, Ignoramus, why are we not hearing more from you? :stare:

Andres, the case against dcmort can briefly be summed up as...
http://www.ericloranger.com/picture_unrelated.jpgSorry, the real case is of course... http://picture.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/5698/Picture-unrelated-2.jpg

robbiecon
11-02-2010, 21:00
Closer analysis tells me that soup was replaced. Well I guess it's

Unvote; Vote: dcmort then

wideyedwanderer
11-02-2010, 21:03
Sorry I'm late.


Vote: robbiecon.

Rebel Jeb
11-02-2010, 21:05
Tincow is a sith. I scanned him last night, and found him to be so.

Vote: TinCow

I recommend that Andres, whom he seemed to defend, is one also. Somebody protect me tonight, and I'll scan him to check. If not, I'll be dead, and I'd recommend lynching him anyways.

Umm...yeah. Carry on sirs.

Seon
11-02-2010, 21:07
Meh, might as well. unvote, vote: TinCow

ULC
11-02-2010, 21:08
How much time do we have left? I haven't placed my vote yet and I need to, but I have no clue where the tally stands and the last thing I want to do is create a tie by accident.

Beskar
11-02-2010, 21:08
More votes for dcmort please.

Rebel Jeb
11-02-2010, 21:13
More votes for dcmort please.

Yeah, that's a great idea...For sure man....

No.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-02-2010, 21:15
yesss, vote tincow. I thought it was bizarre yesterday when he jumped to point out rebel jeb's detective hints.

naut
11-02-2010, 21:17
Well. It's a lot better than anything else so far.

unvote, vote: TinCow

FoS: Seon

Rebel Jeb
11-02-2010, 21:17
yesss, vote tincow. I thought it was bizarre yesterday when he jumped to point out rebel jeb's detective hints.


Which is why I scanned him. Hit the jackpot. I figured he was going to aim for me in a few nights anyways since he was sith and caught on to what I said, so I figured I'd come out anyways instead of risk dying with the knowledge.

If there are any protectors out there, please protect me tonight. Please please.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-02-2010, 21:19
They must have thought I had the town pr and that you were working with me. He was prodding to figure out the connection. Too bad for them they killed me last night instead of you :beam:

Rebel Jeb
11-02-2010, 21:22
They must have thought I had the town pr and that you were working with me. He was prodding to figure out the connection. Too bad for them they killed me last night instead of you :beam:


Silly Sith. :P