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EnderWiggin
02-29-2024, 18:15
i know ladd thought that and i did too but i’m more heavily weighing benneh saying we shouldn’t be clearing you for that and rask strongly thinking it was you
also idk why you keep citing jan’s town read because he was very likely rolecop’d and killed because of that because there’s like no other way wolves kill jan N2 in that gamestate with their strongman and i feel like you’re kinda being obtuse about that
he wasn’t killed for his reads
No, but Jan has one of the ~more accurate reads on me of people I've played with. Which isn't something you can trust but it matters to me so nyeh.
Also I have already agreed with the Jan N2. Yesterday I realised I was being dumb about it. This is more about the fact that Jan has a read you can sheep on it. You're citing Benneh/Rask as reasons to sus me, I cited two people who had townreads or reasons to clear me back at you.
I'm basically saying "Make up your own damn mind because I can also bring up dead people that support my side."
Because I'm tired of this tbh.
EnderWiggin
02-29-2024, 18:18
i’m sorry ender but i just can’t vote arctic here
even if i thought it was him i don’t think i could go against the dead villas and kill him, would never get over it if it’s wrong and i went against my town read of him since D2 to lose the game
and i honestly just don’t find your case convincing sorry
Meh.
I hope you're right on Dya then.
I leave it to you to decide if you trust me. I'm here to answer your questions.
Vote: Dya
No one has been calling him wolf. There's no one to kill on that front.
But you/Dya live for the dichotomy of how you two have been interacting.
You specifically have been one of his best buddies in terms of you two townreading each other from much earlier in the game. More-so than Benneh even.
The POE not dying is obvious. But the Rask kill/Benneh kill are removing people that have reason to reconsider in the final stages, keeping his closest townread around and holding the advantageous conflicts. Rask kill has the added bonus of looking like a kill I would absolutely make.
But I know the same argument can be applied to me.
It's mostly an argument of "The kills are less likely to be Dya rather than more likely to be Arctic."
And yes if Dya is the wolf I'm just making myself look dumber in post but nyeh.
i don’t really think i would die before benneh and rask regardless of the who the wolf is because benneh/rask/arctic were all more cleared than me before today
i guess dya could kill me but tbh i don’t even know if they would because i don’t think i die unless they are exactly the wolf and then people would be more likely to sheep me and kill them so i feel like they actually have a better chance to leave me alive and hope people don’t listen or i reevaluate
Arctic are you still here
re: ender's case on me - for the point about dya, i'm not sure they could kill anyone except who's currently died just based on who's clear, i think the only person who could have died instead of rask/benneh was me - people weren't really clearing hally imo, and at that point if a non-clear player dies it's kinda gonna point to their reads being correct which would have got everyone pushing dya. so, they couldn't really get away with killing hally. but yeah there are some points in their favor with some NK stuff, which is also why i think it's you. i mean rask died tunneling you, my last post at eod was "tbh it's probably not ender cuz of the spew" and look who died lol
benneh was also the person most open to dya being town, iirc benneh's preferred order of kills was wisdom/vanta/you and he died before me and rask so i have to wonder why that happened lol
Also as an addendum:
Arctic's whole "I'm gonna force you to case Dya" rubs me absolutely the wrong way. I wanted to add it to the case but idk how self-centred that is.
(37 - Now I *do* have to be careful with remaining posts.)
i mean, i had read the game and knew it wasn't hally, you then proceeded to also read the game and realized it wasn't hally too, you gotta understand that it's between two people for me and i can't do much with you casing me can i lol
i do still think it could be dya but i just think you've been wolfier the past two days and every dead villager has been saying it's you
Arctic are you still here
yes
if i vote dya now and arctic acks it he’s confirmed town
but idk maybe i should wait for dya in case they think it could be him and can convince me
see i would do the same to confirm you but im worried that town you decides to vote dya anyway because you're secretly still tunneled LMAO
i think it would be pretty valuable for ender/dya to have confirmation that it's the other but i dunno how much effort dya would put in to make a case at this point regardless of their alignment
see i would do the same to confirm you but im worried that town you decides to vote dya anyway because you're secretly still tunneled LMAO
non zero chance :curtain:
but no im too much of a team player for my own good, even if i still was convinced it was them it would be a dick move
i think it would be pretty valuable for ender/dya to have confirmation that it's the other but i dunno how much effort dya would put in to make a case at this point regardless of their alignment
yea i think dya is kinda checked out atp so i don’t think they would do much casing either way
it’s more valuable to confirm you than me because if ender is v it forces him to reeval and maybe he convinces us
nobody thinks it’s me anyway
well I don't mind either way
I won't have much availability tomorrow morning so I'm probably going to vote tonight at some point anyway
probably after the next check in from dya just in case they have any sudden revelation but i doubt it
yeah let’s wait for dya
not sure where you’re at with posts but make sure you save some
im here and i still dont think its arctic. I think eod2 was a really strong point for him and like...it was personally mindmeldy for me
He just doesnt need to attack the change of wagons to do well as a wolf there
Hally
am here now since you pinged me
dya i assume you still think it’s ender?
ender pivoting to me is a bad look for ender since he's been repping a v read on me all game. it probably pocketed me a bit but I cant do anything about that at this point
dya i assume you still think it’s ender?
i wasnt sure earlier today but I think ender's recent posting solidifies it for me
okay
vote: dya
Arctic hammer if you’re wolf
my biggest regret will be if it's arctic and I had him d1 but I dont really think it is
my biggest regret will be if it's arctic and I had him d1 but I dont really think it is
well we’re about to find out
ack
thank god lmao
unvote
ender pivoting to me is a bad look for ender since he's been repping a v read on me all game. it probably pocketed me a bit but I cant do anything about that at this point
is it really a bad look though? i mean it should be obvious it's you from his pov if he is town
it's what he should have done in the first place.. regardless of his alignment, actually
is it really a bad look though? i mean it should be obvious it's you from his pov if he is town
it's what he should have done in the first place.. regardless of his alignment, actually
it's not a bad look that he thinks it's me to be clear
it's a bad look that he didnt pivot to me being a possible wolf until today
@enderwiggen it’s confirmed not arctic now
being that arcitc didnt hammer, it has to be ender so that makes it easy on me
there's an off chance of hally but I dont really believe that plus with ender voting me we'd never get beyond a rand elim if it is
EnderWiggin
02-29-2024, 19:02
@enderwiggen it’s confirmed not arctic now
Welp I have found the clown paint.
I'm going to sleep.
i thought about self hammering just so this game would be over and stop weighing on me but I couldn't do it
bruh what
i question how much this sort of thing is real because.. lmao god damn
are you two going to case each other or are we just going to go with god
are you two going to case each other or are we just going to go with god
im not going to case him. I already told you I dont have the energy
Welp I have found the clown paint.
I'm going to sleep.
bruh how is this your reaction
EnderWiggin
02-29-2024, 19:05
are you two going to case each other or are we just going to go with god
I'll look at it after I sleep.
I just spent 5 hours convincing myself it was you and it's 5am rn. I have no energy to pivot.
I'll look at it after I sleep.
I just spent 5 hours convincing myself it was you and it's 5am rn. I have no energy to pivot.
you had already pivoted when you voted me i thouhgt
this reaction from ender is making me want to lock in my vote and close the tab
there's no way this is what he actually thinks
EnderWiggin
02-29-2024, 19:07
bruh how is this your reaction
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arctic do you want more time or should we just end it? ill vote whoever you vote
seems like nothing is going to change if ender is going to bed unless we want to wait for him to wake up again
EnderWiggin
02-29-2024, 19:08
you had already pivoted when you voted me i thouhgt
I voted as a shrug admission to Dya.
Wasn't going to case you because I thought Arctic was still gonna flip wolf lmao.
EnderWiggin
02-29-2024, 19:08
Shrug admission to Hally.
It's 5am and my brain doesn't work.
EnderWiggin
02-29-2024, 19:11
I spent all day working, then stayed up til 5am to try and give this game a good shake and have egged my face hard enough that the dribble stains will wash out in three weeks time.
I was running on fumes hours ago.
If you really think it's so unrealistic for my reaction to having to case someone I've been townreading for the last five hours to be "I'm not doing this right now" then y'all standards are somewhere in narnia.
arctic do you want more time or should we just end it? ill vote whoever you vote
seems like nothing is going to change if ender is going to bed unless we want to wait for him to wake up again
Who do you actually think it is
Who do you actually think it is
i don’t know
i want it to be dya so i can feel okay about my play this game but i think i would feel even worse voting them if it’s wrong and the dead villagers plus you who is now confirmed think it’s ender
and i don’t think ender has really been villagery at all today despite having his back up against the wall as the game losing mislunch if hes v, he feels kind of resigned despite doing some work and like he kind of knows he already lost because even when he was casing you i just didn’t really feel the desperation and urgency from a villager in his spot
and frankly i haven’t found him villagery at any point this game so i’m at peace with killing him. if it’s dya i think i did everything i could but i can’t do it anymore, id just feel too bad to be wrong and if i was right i did the best i could and people didn’t listen so
sorry i realize i’m putting a ton of pressure on you here to decide but i hope you understand my feelings re: dya
i cant be the one who decides to kill them here. just can’t do it
EnderWiggin
02-29-2024, 19:24
"I am up at 5am with work tomorrow" has no desperation.
Honestly?
Really?
"I am up at 5am with work tomorrow" has no desperation.
Honestly?
Really?
i mean dude, it’s confirmed dya fypov and you don’t really seem to care
and even when you were casing arctic i didn’t even feel like you tried to convince me? you just voted dya as soon as i told you i didn’t think it was arctic
yeah i mean i never thought it was ender until the past couple days because i only really understood his play coming from a wolf who had already given up, mainly his eod2
i agree it feelsbad if it's dya because you were correct this whole time and we've mainly dissuaded by emotionposting. i remember you said they do this thing as mafia, but to what extent? i dunno if i can reconcile them calling a bunch of people mafia cuz they are playing too badly to be town if those emotions are fake..
even then i think the last two nightkills kinda point towards ender and the spew is really the only thing he has going for him. i also just think if he was town he would have seen it had to be dya from his pov much sooner, burden of proficiency or whatever, but i mean.. his 1 clear in f4 was literally the wolf if he was town
neither dya nor ender have done anything towny today so today was also pretty useless
yeah im sorry im not really doing much today but I really have no energy to put towards this game anymore.
my poe hasnt changed and I can't get myself to read hundreds of posts from ender and hally to confirm it
but ender's posting the last few days really feels like a boxed in wolf
yeah i mean i never thought it was ender until the past couple days because i only really understood his play coming from a wolf who had already given up, mainly his eod2
i agree it feelsbad if it's dya because you were correct this whole time and we've mainly dissuaded by emotionposting. i remember you said they do this thing as mafia, but to what extent? i dunno if i can reconcile them calling a bunch of people mafia cuz they are playing too badly to be town if those emotions are fake..
even then i think the last two nightkills kinda point towards ender and the spew is really the only thing he has going for him. i also just think if he was town he would have seen it had to be dya from his pov much sooner, burden of proficiency or whatever, but i mean.. his 1 clear in f4 was literally the wolf if he was town
neither dya nor ender have done anything towny today so today was also pretty useless
i don’t know if dya would do it to this extent
i can’t really recall a time they were in a spot like this as wolf but i do think it would be… extreme atp
and i mean if they did do it as wolf like what are we supposed to do
to me it’s like one of those things where if they went that far you just say ok and go next
EnderWiggin
02-29-2024, 19:35
yeah i mean i never thought it was ender until the past couple days because i only really understood his play coming from a wolf who had already given up, mainly his eod2
i agree it feelsbad if it's dya because you were correct this whole time and we've mainly dissuaded by emotionposting. i remember you said they do this thing as mafia, but to what extent? i dunno if i can reconcile them calling a bunch of people mafia cuz they are playing too badly to be town if those emotions are fake..
even then i think the last two nightkills kinda point towards ender and the spew is really the only thing he has going for him. i also just think if he was town he would have seen it had to be dya from his pov much sooner, burden of proficiency or whatever, but i mean.. his 1 clear in f4 was literally the wolf if he was town
neither dya nor ender have done anything towny today so today was also pretty useless
If you really think I do EOD2 like that as wolf with Visor then idk what to say other than hammer me, get it over with.
I honestly will admit I was convinced I was going to be the game losing misyeet days ago. Part of why I was kinda happy to be wagoned yesterday. Dya correctly picked to move to Vanta at EOD.
alright i'm happy to confirm hally rn, you don't have to hammer if you don't want though
vote: Ender
am i stupid for thinking that post seems vaguely like a wolfclaim
Totally not Taffy
02-29-2024, 19:37
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I wrote all flavour, you're getting all flavour.
am i stupid for thinking that post seems vaguely like a wolfclaim
no :curtain:
Totally not Taffy
02-29-2024, 19:39
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Saint Alasund slayed a mighty dragon. Big deal, you'll say, for so have many other saints. It is how he went about it that makes his story remarkable. You will find no lances, no arrows, no blades here, nay - just one unassuming shepherd's boy and his wit! The dragon in question had been extorting villages into sending it a sheep every day or be destroyed. When his parents were selected for the sixth time that year to give up one of their sheep, Saint Alasund snuck off instead. "You are not a sheep!" the dragon said in dismay, for humans are stringy and bland. "Rawr," replied Saint Alasund. "What?" the dragon grew ever more perplexed at what this child was doing. "Well clearly, I am not a sheep, so that must be you. Which means that I'm the dragon, and you're lunch." For just a moment, the dragon's mind faltered, contemplated this false reality, and shut down. It died of laughter, and for many generations, parents named their children after the Patron Saint of Audacity.
Ender was a Town Saint (VT)
Sorry town!
Totally not Taffy
02-29-2024, 19:39
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Saint Mustelid was unexpectedly born to an elderly couple that had fruitlessly prayed for children since the day they were wed. When the abyssal hordes invaded the land, they spared no thought for their own safety but prayed only for their son. The god to heed their prayer was Kenkaneki, who turned the young boy into the cutest little critter you could possibly imagine. Fleeing the scene after the grisly death of his parents, poor little Saint Mustelid made his way to the nearest druid circle, where he was welcomed as a mascot and showered with treats and pets. Safe behind the treant grove, the druids ended up the last holdout against the demons, and fugitives streamed in from all sides. One week after the start of the invasion, a highly anticipated delegation from the nearest kingdom arrived. The archdruid, hoping for succour, hastened to welcome them. However, the real delegates had been killed and replaced by shapechanging demons! Only Saint Mustelid saw through the ruse, recognising the foul stench of his parents' murderers. He flew at their leader's throat, causing it to drop its disguise and be instantly destroyed by the watchful druids. Without their leader, the remaining demons fled or were overpowered, and Saint Mustelid was hailed as Protector of the Realm.
Arctic was a Town Saint (VT)
Remember your night actions!
Totally not Taffy
02-29-2024, 19:40
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Hagion Dyachei was a pilgrim in Ancient Greece. They travelled through a land mired in a civil war that had been going on for generations. The cause of the war was a sacred grove of ten majestic trees that had grown into a perfect 1-2-3-4 triangle formation. While the holy trees were growing, a religion had formed around them, but once they started bearing fruit the faithful stood divided: some wished to pluck the blossoms and distill them into essential oils for healing wounds, others wanted to harvest their fruits to make jams that could cure fevers. Hagion Dyachei wished to end this miserable war, and climbed a nearby mountain to confer with the gods. Inspiration came in the form of a giant boulder, needing only to be pushed in the right direction. Without hesitation, Hagion Dyachei aimed it at the grove, and there it went, mowing down eight of the trees and sparing only the two that formed the outer points of the triangle with the boulder nested between. Each side of the conflict now had their own sacred tree, neatly hidden from view from the other, and Hagion Dyachei could move on satisfied in knowing that they had brought peace.
Dyachei was a Town Saint (VT)
Yeah I'm leaving the night actions reminder in Arctic's flip bc it's funny.
Totally not Taffy
02-29-2024, 19:41
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Santa Sweater was a foot soldier who got caught in an ambush and only barely escaped with her life. Revalidation in the infirmary was long and boring, so she found herself pacing up and down the hallway past the chapels to the various gods. The one to the God of Death was appropriately lifeless: empty snail shells, dried flowers, scrimshaw figurines. Few ever came to plead here, for loved ones are kept far from the front, and those at Death's door rarely have the strength anymore. Even so, the place felt strangely deserted; why would Death not feel right at home here? In a moment of agony, she felt the visceral answer echo through her: "I hate this place, wholly dedicated to fighting me off." That night, she did what she knew she had to do: armed with a cleaver, she went from bed to bed, then to the nearest encampment, and gathered all in a splendorous Bacchanal of Death, miraculously unstopped by anyone until finally and fittingly, she died of exhaustion.
Hally was a Mafia Martyr
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Congratulations wolves!
well gg
i think there could have been a worse outcome
really wp though hally
i think we knew everyone was townsiding to an extent but you really went hard on your partners lol god damn
sorry y’all, super wp
one of the best villages ive wolfed against, honestly not sure how i pulled it off
i wasn’t supposed to go deep with my role (which is insane, taffy you sicko) but with how the game shaped up our only shot was me going the distance
EnderWiggin
02-29-2024, 19:45
even then i think the last two nightkills kinda point towards ender and the spew is really the only thing he has going for him. i also just think if he was town he would have seen it had to be dya from his pov much sooner, burden of proficiency or whatever, but i mean.. his 1 clear in f4 was literally the wolf if he was town
neither dya nor ender have done anything towny today so today was also pretty useless
Actually I was the one clearing an actual town :curtain:
I got to Hally being town and was wrong there but I tried.
Also. I didn't post this because I hate to ATE, but...
It fucking sucks to be told you're not trying or you're acting like a wolf given up when you've burned an entire night on a game trying to re-solve from the start because you feel like something's wrong and you want to give F4 the best shake you can.
If I get scumread anyway because not many people have any clue how to townread me... eh. Sure. Whatever. But felt shit to be told I was acting like I wasn't even trying. Fuck that.
nebjiamn
02-29-2024, 19:45
ggwp hally
nice try team, sorry i kinda doomed ender by being a dummy
really wp though hally
i think we knew everyone was townsiding to an extent but you really went hard on your partners lol god damn
yeah i didn’t really think i had a choice with how the gamestate shaped up and i kinda mapped it out and knew i was positioned well enough to bus and not get suspected for not dying because there were a ton of villas that should still die before me
Actually I was the one clearing an actual town :curtain:
I got to Hally being town and was wrong there but I tried.
Also. I didn't post this because I hate to ATE, but...
It fucking sucks to be told you're not trying or you're acting like a wolf given up when you've burned an entire night on a game trying to re-solve from the start because you feel like something's wrong and you want to give F4 the best shake you can.
If I get scumread anyway because not many people have any clue how to townread me... eh. Sure. Whatever. But felt shit to be told I was acting like I wasn't even trying. Fuck that.
I don't think it's any more your fault than anyone else's, I just didn't find your posting towny today, not saying you didn't do anything
yeah i didn’t really think i had a choice with how the gamestate shaped up and i kinda mapped it out and knew i was positioned well enough to bus and not get suspected for not dying because there were a ton of villas that should still die before me
I think if you sleep in f4 and anyone but you dies people might actually figure it out.
Maybe.
Felt hard to pick anybody that would die before you next (from the graveyard looking in)
Did Hally gaslight me into town reading them??
Seriously though, well played wolves and fun game! I look forward to playing with y'all again! Thanks Taffy for hosting <3
EnderWiggin
02-29-2024, 19:54
I don't think it's any more your fault than anyone else's, I just didn't find your posting towny today, not saying you didn't do anything
Eh. Sorry.
I realised after posting that most of the comments that were on that note were Hally and I just... nyeh.
Wolf I guess.
dya i apologize for the hard feelings this game and really didn’t intend to make anything personal
ftr i was not faking being upset, i just packaged it into a villager perspective but i hope i didn’t take it too far
you nailed it with my case on you seeming like i was just trying to bulldoze you
thanks for hosting taffy, really appreciated your support in wolf chat and the interesting setup/flavor
GeneralHankerchief
02-29-2024, 19:59
gg
back to retirement
gg
back to retirement
mfw i came out of retirement for this game and had to wolf for 8 days
wp gh, sorry you kinda got shafted
GG
Thanks for hosting taffy
Gg everyone
Thx for hosting taffy, awesome job
Wp wolves, well deserved
shitpost and lolcat for 3 dayphases, win mafia games
ggwp all
goated hosting
hally hyper giga goated
Raskolnikov
02-29-2024, 23:55
GG WP.
Thanks to the new comers for joining, Hope u all stick around!
Thanks for hosting Taffy! Incredible work and flavour.
"A self-protecting, consecutive targeting doc that gets feedback is perfectly balanced I will hear no criticism."
Raskolnikov
02-29-2024, 23:55
gg
back to retirement
Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.
:curtain:
i forgot to keep posting the asari high command in honor of gh after he died
sorry y’all, super wp
one of the best villages ive wolfed against, honestly not sure how i pulled it off
i wasn’t supposed to go deep with my role (which is insane, taffy you sicko) but with how the game shaped up our only shot was me going the distance
that role was my favorite
also, lol hally u idiot
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