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if benneh isnt v i will be a sad boi
:end:
i’ve been mentally slotting you both as villas as kind of a package deal since i started town reading you so if either one of you is a wolf i will simply blame the other for mindmelding with a wolf and getting pocketed like a noob :bow:
fr though, if there’s a wolf between you guys i think it’s benneh cuz there are points where i do feel like he is kinda regurgitating exactly what you just said and making a point of how much he agrees with you lol
but tbh i think he would also “pocket” you as v/v and i don’t really think he would align with you so hard as w/v unless you’re wrong about everything. don’t fuck up zack :laugh4:
maybe i'm jumping the gun a bit on gemma a bit cuz they haven't done much either but their posts kinda fall between doing nothing / trying to do something and failing
apparently they townread ender for the bait to GH which seemed completely NAI to me and reads more as pockety towards ender, and the general focus on GH over.. anything else just kinda seems wolfy
am i being too uncharitable here? i'm worried i'm just construing normal posting as bad cuz i wanna find something but like i don't really get what they're doing. same applies to dya. both feel like struggly wolf entrances
btw i don't really think ender is a wolf, i think he's kinda playing his all over the place towngame which gets him killed a lot (this is bladescape, right?) and him going back and forth over stuff doesn't really seem calculated to me
ender is like
lowkey villagery
i wanted this to be stronger than it ended up being because i thought i felt something but the logic post and apparently rereading makes all my reads spiral into potatoe or maybe its page 7 things, idk the logic post isnt even that bad
i liked 125 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053853694&viewfull=1#post2053853694) on first pass, i guess he made similar posts to this in the other game where he was wolf (and sure there's an element of self awareness to it where if he's a wolf he wants to get ahead of the sus) but it made me laugh so i v read it
129 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053853698&viewfull=1#post2053853698) i mindmelded with at the time, i had stupid plans to pretend to w read jan at the start of the game then actually got pinged by some of his posts and ohno so ender being on that wavelength feels good maybe especially because incoherent, kind of irrelevant bc its jan but i liekd it anyway
i also generically like the way he ended uip v reading arctic and benneh the individual wreads arent wow amazing sure but the way he got there felt good imo
vote: Enderwiggin
dislike the Arctic turnaround and timing
hum
can you talk about why
just to be clear, ender's post was bad because it was dismissive and felt disingenuous in an agenda'd / trying to control the narrative kind of way / suggesting my read was fallacious and bad but without pushing or suspecting me
it's just the kind of post where i read it and immediately think wow, a wolf probably made this post
i dont care if someone townreads logic or doesnt wanna kill him, i mean whatever it's like a quarter into day people dont need to agree with me
nice im terrible
nice im terrible
uh
you saying you didnt like that ender post and bringing it up again is what prompted me to make that post
:inquisitive:
ender is like
lowkey villagery
i wanted this to be stronger than it ended up being because i thought i felt something but the logic post and apparently rereading makes all my reads spiral into potatoe or maybe its page 7 things, idk the logic post isnt even that bad
i liked 125 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053853694&viewfull=1#post2053853694) on first pass, i guess he made similar posts to this in the other game where he was wolf (and sure there's an element of self awareness to it where if he's a wolf he wants to get ahead of the sus) but it made me laugh so i v read it
129 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053853698&viewfull=1#post2053853698) i mindmelded with at the time, i had stupid plans to pretend to w read jan at the start of the game then actually got pinged by some of his posts and ohno so ender being on that wavelength feels good maybe especially because incoherent, kind of irrelevant bc its jan but i liekd it anyway
i also generically like the way he ended uip v reading arctic and benneh the individual wreads arent wow amazing sure but the way he got there felt good imo
i don’t understand this post
not even as in i think it’s wolfy, i just don’t really understand what you’re trying to say
wdym you were going to pretend to wolf read jan? why lol
Vote: Arctic
Okay I actually take back my earlier read
???
oh another thing, he talked a bunch about how rask was reading me but i don’t think he actually gave any thoughts on my posts besides that rask was wrong to call them pockety? tbh i kinda expected arctic would also think i was #lacking because he only knows me from turbos where he thinks i’m one of the strongest villagers and i wasn’t really posting like a strong villager which i feel like should have concerned him?
idk i might be wildin about this cuz people don’t seem to agree, would appreciate people talking about it esp the people that town read him
Nah you are right
Rask is a villager and artic push on them felt super malicious
And not beacause rask is a villager, the reasoning just feels way off...rask is a wolf for fosing a lot of people? Cmn friendo thats not a real reason
nebjiamn
02-13-2024, 04:46
hum
can you talk about why
Feels like it aligns with a kind of wave of anti-Arctic sentiment that arrived around that time that makes it feel opportunistic and whereas hally has fleshed out a read/reason to find Arctic wolfy I just don’t get that sense with ender that it’s that deep and more just idk, wish washy in a way
plus the earlier thing about logic
Nah you are right
Rask is a villager and artic push on them felt super malicious
And not beacause rask is a villager, the reasoning just feels way off...rask is a wolf for fosing a lot of people? Cmn friendo thats not a real reason
omd that was a tangential reason for sussing them T_T
good morning to you too
uh
you saying you didnt like that ender post and bringing it up again is what prompted me to make that post
:inquisitive:
yes
but i also just finished trying to articulate a v read on him
so your saying things that make sense doesnt exactly help my soul
Nah you are right
Rask is a villager and artic push on them felt super malicious
And not beacause rask is a villager, the reasoning just feels way off...rask is a wolf for fosing a lot of people? Cmn friendo thats not a real reason
wolfchat sent the ladd signal eh
omd that was a tangential reason for sussing them T_T
good morning to you too
Hallo
it just felt real forced while i was catching uo, maybe ill re read the exchange better later (or maybe not)
Syn feels super different from all their other org games and they were a villager in all of them so uh not a good sign
wolfchat sent the ladd signal eh
Gh told me you were grilling logic and to come bring down the shield on him
:curtain:
i don’t understand this post
not even as in i think it’s wolfy, i just don’t really understand what you’re trying to say
wdym you were going to pretend to wolf read jan? why lol
idk i come up with weird ways to try to amuse myself / others lol
what dont u understand tho
open spreadsheet
shift ladd from null to the kinda wolfy column
close spreadsheet
"SUPER malicious" (not really)
"SUPER different" (he seems like normal syn 2 me lol)
emphasis mine, i put super in all caps so it looks even worse
:holmes:
Nah you are right
Rask is a villager and artic push on them felt super malicious
And not beacause rask is a villager, the reasoning just feels way off...rask is a wolf for fosing a lot of people? Cmn friendo thats not a real reason
well i was starting to think i was completely dumb cuz nobody acknowledged it but i feel better now lol
inb4 ladd wolf :cantlook:
nebjiamn
02-13-2024, 05:00
if zack isnt v i will be a sad boi
:end:
open spreadsheet
shift ladd from null to the kinda wolfy column
close spreadsheet
"SUPER malicious" (not really)
"SUPER different" (he seems like normal syn 2 me lol)
emphasis mine, i put super in all caps so it looks even worse
:holmes:
Iamindanger.jpg
Gh told me you were grilling logic and to come bring down the shield on him
:curtain:
this is such a villa gh post that I am genuinely considering dropping the shield
especially sicne Newcomb/lissa havent really posted well
but regardless of everyone alignments i really don't think we should kill gh
well i was starting to think i was completely dumb cuz nobody acknowledged it but i feel better now lol
inb4 ladd wolf :cantlook:
If it makes you feel less dumb i also think you could be a wolf despite you making 99% good posts
Now thats dumb (of me)
:curtain:
If it makes you feel less dumb i also think you could be a wolf despite you making 99% good posts
Now thats dumb (of me)
:curtain:
why?
If it makes you feel less dumb i also think you could be a wolf despite you making 99% good posts
Now thats dumb (of me)
:curtain:
wow i really am going to F3
feelsbadman
Syn feels super different from all their other org games and they were a villager in all of them so uh not a good sign
https://i.imgur.com/oOJEmzM.png
Its mostly due to this post:
i keep clicking gh’s spoilers thinking it will be something and then it’s the same fuckin joke every time :stare:
When speed reading through the game this is by far the post that gave me more "posting to fit in the shitposting phase" vibe
Idk it just felt fake coming from hally
Afaict their other posts are all fine but this one has really stuck with me for some reason lol
ngl man your reason for saying you thought hally was a wolf "despite making 99% good posts" seems pretty fake
i dont want to tunnel ladd or anything but yeah whew this re-entrance is a doozy
https://i.imgur.com/oOJEmzM.png
lock v never rescinding btw
Its mostly due to this post:
When speed reading through the game this is by far the post that gave me more "posting to fit in the shitposting phase" vibe
Idk it just felt fake coming from hally
Afaict their other posts are all fine but this one has really stuck with me for some reason lol
this is certainly a read of all time
Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.
:curtain:
ngl man your reason for saying you thought hally was a wolf "despite making 99% good posts" seems pretty fake
i dont want to tunnel ladd or anything but yeah whew this re-entrance is a doozy
lock v never rescinding btw
Now ill go back to sleep so you cant legally tunnel me
well i was starting to think i was completely dumb cuz nobody acknowledged it but i feel better now lol
inb4 ladd wolf :cantlook:
if it helps i didnt hate ur post hally
i just didnt really feel storngly about any of it
the w/w stuff specifically is whatever to me i think you're more likely to just confibias yourself than anything but you do you
vote: EnderWiggin
why tho
mfw i’m one of the top posters and the only two reads people have given on me are that i seem blendy and an NAI post i made in rvs is the one that sticks out the most as opposed to any of the ones where i actually try to solve the game
guess i should have stayed retired lmfao
mfw i’m one of the top posters and the only two reads people have given on me are that i seem blendy and an NAI post i made in rvs is the one that sticks out the most as opposed to any of the ones where i actually try to solve the game
guess i should have stayed retired lmfao
it's 13.5 hours into a 48 hour day 1
r e l a x
~:smoking:
hum
the water coming out of tap is brown
???
çwhy this
it's 13.5 hours into a 48 hour day 1
r e l a x
~:smoking:
…ngl i was thinking the day was already half over, that’s why i haven’t been conserving posts at all lol
not used to a 48/24 starting morning my time. anti-america oppression in action :smg:
mfw i’m one of the top posters and the only two reads people have given on me are that i seem blendy and an NAI post i made in rvs is the one that sticks out the most as opposed to any of the ones where i actually try to solve the game
guess i should have stayed retired lmfao
hugs, i v read you im sure other people do too and just havent bothered saying so
im glad you're here!
Vanta Black
02-13-2024, 05:44
Talking about Saints and Sinners Martyrs ..
What is everyone's favourite Nicolas Cage movie and why?
Doesn't need to be the best. Best is a kind of boring answer when talking about such a wonderful actor.
I like Cage. Can I jsut say the worst one? Willy's Wonderland
oh righjt you exist
hi hello welcome
https://i.imgur.com/ORxzGUO.jpeg
There are a lot of words on this page I didn't read.
I did catch that Dya called GH a villager. I came to the same conclusion via different means. I think by now he would have broached the subject of Traitors on Peacock if he were a wolf, if only to apologize that he hadn't gotten to it yet
hum
the water coming out of tap is brown
???
çwhy this
Probably rusty pipes.
Does it ever turn clear? If so, how long do you have to run the water before it turns clear?
Probably rusty pipes.
Does it ever turn clear? If so, how long do you have to run the water before it turns clear?
no the water heater just btroked its happneed before
cold water clear thankfully
There are a lot of words on this page I didn't read.
I did catch that Dya called GH a villager. I came to the same conclusion via different means. I think by now he would have broached the subject of Traitors on Peacock if he were a wolf, if only to apologize that he hadn't gotten to it yet
i was about to swap my vote to visor but now the dogged detrermination has set in >:[
i alos have no idea if this is a real read or not lol
Gh told me you were grilling logic and to come bring down the shield on him
:curtain:
GH of all people should know that's a losing proposition.
Either that's one hell of a meta joke, or...
You really are wolf-bros with GH...
i was about to swap my vote to visor but now the dogged detrermination has set in >:[
i alos have no idea if this is a real read or not lol
100% gin-u-win
oh righjt you exist
hi hello welcome
rescinded btw
no the water heater just btroked its happneed before
cold water clear thankfully
If you are the homeowner, a purge and clean is probably the cheapest solution.
Is this a bad time to mention idk what Asari high command is
Do you want us to leave you in the dark?
If you are the homeowner, a purge and clean is probably the cheapest solution.
im not but thanks i will remember for my next life where i still have a mortgage from this one
it probably broke because its a thousand degrees outside
I have already conflated Zack and visor (currently slightly sus to me)
and also Gemma and Enderwiggan. (Light town)
I don't think the org is all that mobile friendly. Lol
im not but thanks i will remember for my next life where i still have a mortgage from this one
it probably broke because its a thousand degrees outside
I am something of a handyman; after the game I can probably talk you through how to do almost any kind of home maintenance. Even fixing a water heater, despite the hot outside weather.
(Are you in the UK? I recently learned they do hot water differently there)
meesa livin in australia, and oh boy i am here for the handyman talk
im hopeless at that sort of thing (and dislike that i am)
wdym conflating zack and visor
whats your zack sus i v read them for shitting opinions into thread ish
nebjiamn
02-13-2024, 06:44
I have already conflated Zack and visor (currently slightly sus to me)
and also Gemma and Enderwiggan. (Light town)
I don't think the org is all that mobile friendly. Lol
Are you wolf reading/town reading both heads of these pairs or just the latter halves
meesa livin in australia, and oh boy i am here for the handyman talk
im hopeless at that sort of thing (and dislike that i am)
wdym conflating zack and visor
whats your zack sus i v read them for shitting opinions into thread ish
I often can't remember that visit and Zack are different people with different opinions until I see the two of them side by side
I just reread page one (max ppp here on the org) and realized that visor posted just once in all that time, so at some point something Zack said I had attributedto visor.
Zack (and also visor) is one of the people I expect to read me better, so there is that. But he has been legitimately wrong on me before, so it's not a golden rule. I'll spare the golden rule for now, as I don't want to put undue pressure on anyone just yet.
Are you wolf reading/town reading both heads of these pairs or just the latter halves
If you'll see my previous post, for Zack and visor, it's because I often can't tell them apart. Rereading page 1 has me separating the two a tad, as I'm null reading visor as being lazy for now. Zack is only getting minor points below null, but I'll let him simmer more.
Ender and Gemma are conflated into towny because my brain is thinking their avatars look alike, and I'm forgetting who said what.
I'm off to bed as it's nearly 10 PM here.
HMU with any of your Logic takes and I'll answer them in the morning.
why tho
he called me based
If you'll see my previous post, for Zack and visor, it's because I often can't tell them apart. Rereading page 1 has me separating the two a tad, as I'm null reading visor as being lazy for now. Zack is only getting minor points below null, but I'll let him simmer more.
Ender and Gemma are conflated into towny because my brain is thinking their avatars look alike, and I'm forgetting who said what.
https://media.tenor.com/RTjqRxryYSkAAAAM/wait-wait-what.gif
he called me based
ur based
nebjiamn
02-13-2024, 07:12
If you'll see my previous post, for Zack and visor, it's because I often can't tell them apart. Rereading page 1 has me separating the two a tad, as I'm null reading visor as being lazy for now. Zack is only getting minor points below null, but I'll let him simmer more.
Ender and Gemma are conflated into towny because my brain is thinking their avatars look alike, and I'm forgetting who said what.
….
what
Zack (and also visor) is one of the people I expect to read me better, so there is that. But he has been legitimately wrong on me before, so it's not a golden rule.
Genuine question - when?
You said this pretty definitively ("legitimately wrong") but I'm not sure what you're referring to tbh.
Can we lynch scum tonight guys.
I'm finally home, semi-naked, laptop resting on my moist, muscular thighs, ready to up my game by 14.6%.
GH's ISO next...
I often can't remember that visit and Zack are different people with different opinions until I see the two of them side by side
I just reread page one (max ppp here on the org) and realized that visor posted just once in all that time, so at some point something Zack said I had attributedto visor.
Zack (and also visor) is one of the people I expect to read me better, so there is that. But he has been legitimately wrong on me before, so it's not a golden rule. I'll spare the golden rule for now, as I don't want to put undue pressure on anyone just yet.
i don't like making this read as i think it just reinforces shitty play
but i think logic going straight to the "expect to read me better" might be villagery
I soulread Visor villa out of his sole post (fr)
Think folks like Arctic, Murska, and Logic had a meh opening for different reasons I won't be bother to type (also some of you have stressed potential pings). Murska being overly defensive and serious at this point of the game.
Benneh and Hally also meh but I guess it's not a D1 issue (unless :curtain:). Hally feels a bit too much willing to blend in or pocket I dunno. will see I feel about this one l8r.
Zack is awesome :curtain:
villagery use of multiple curtains
i feel like if there's anyone bussing logic it's you
where have you decisively pushed him lol? the first time you mentioned him was agreeing with zack's sus on him and then you said he had a "meh" opening
vote: Raskolnikov
i dunno man this is like strike 3 for weirdness
wolfy post m'lord
I don't claim to be some Logic god-reader, mostly because I wouldn't claim that about anyone
1. people can and do change [insert sloppy steaks gif]
2. I've played so infrequently over the last few years that it would be silly for me to claim 100% accurate knowledge of someone's play and my ability to read it
3. I generally dislike appeal to authority / trust me bro reads anyway. if I think I have a good read then I should be able to convince you by explaining why it's good on its own merits.
But I truthfully have no idea what Logic is referring to here, I don't think I have actually been wrong on him in a game before (or at least not in the way being implied) but it's a relatively small sample size. Maybe he is remembering someone else doing that and mistakenly attributing it to me. Maybe I'm forgetting some game from years ago I was wrong, I dunno. Calling me suspicious because I should read you better (what posts are you making that i should townread you for anyway? most charitably it's a bunch of d1 fluffposting) and in the same breath implying my read carries little weight because it's unreliable is kind of incredible, and does make me a bit dubious about the genuineness of your read on me.
I guess it doesn't really matter, but the way it was presented rubbed me the wrong way and didn't seem on the level.
:deal2:
I'd say benneh and Jan are the closest things I have to a townread, I've generally liked their posts and where and how they've poked.
Arctic/Gemma/Hally/Murska/Rask/Syn is this big pile of people I think are ~fine but have no true read on.
GH, Vanta, Visor, and Wisdom are true null, none have really done anything readable.
Ender and ladd seem a bit wolfy, I've already touched on this some for each and am far too lazy to repeat myself. Basically they've just made posts that made me go "oh, I didn't like that" / seemed like agenda pushing rather than genuine thoughts.
dya's posts honestly just seemed rough to me and felt reminiscent of their wolf game, they didn't do much other than the GH read which I disliked. Their response to me felt like trying to get me off their back, I thought the post about benneh wanting them to be a wolf was weird. Still plenty of time but yeah.
I've already talked about Logic a good amount, but if they're a villager I dont get what he's doing because he looks how he plays when he's a wolf so far. Posts feel forced and missing the purposefulness behind his solving when he's town. His suspicion on me just doesn't feel real ngl, it's also kind of incoherent and confusing which is not something I associate with him as a villager at all. Again, plenty of time to change and I think Logic is usually a fairly obvious villager once he gets going, so we'll see, but early signs not looking croggers.
Should be everyone, any gaps in my reasoning assume the answer for why I feel that way is "vibes".
Out for awhile.
:creep:
the worst part about today is that i can't lunch both zack AND gh
bro i ain't reading that
give me the hungry caterpillar version
I don't claim to be some Logic god-reader, mostly because I wouldn't claim that about anyone
1. people can and do change [insert sloppy steaks gif]
2. I've played so infrequently over the last few years that it would be silly for me to claim 100% accurate knowledge of someone's play and my ability to read it
3. I generally dislike appeal to authority / trust me bro reads anyway. if I think I have a good read then I should be able to convince you by explaining why it's good on its own merits.
But I truthfully have no idea what Logic is referring to here, I don't think I have actually been wrong on him in a game before (or at least not in the way being implied) but it's a relatively small sample size. Maybe he is remembering someone else doing that and mistakenly attributing it to me. Maybe I'm forgetting some game from years ago I was wrong, I dunno. Calling me suspicious because I should read you better (what posts are you making that i should townread you for anyway? most charitably it's a bunch of d1 fluffposting) and in the same breath implying my read carries little weight because it's unreliable is kind of incredible, and does make me a bit dubious about the genuineness of your read on me.
I guess it doesn't really matter, but the way it was presented rubbed me the wrong way and didn't seem on the level.
:deal2:
I'd say benneh and Jan are the closest things I have to a townread, I've generally liked their posts and where and how they've poked.
Arctic/Gemma/Hally/Murska/Rask/Syn is this big pile of people I think are ~fine but have no true read on.
GH, Vanta, Visor, and Wisdom are true null, none have really done anything readable.
Ender and ladd seem a bit wolfy, I've already touched on this some for each and am far too lazy to repeat myself. Basically they've just made posts that made me go "oh, I didn't like that" / seemed like agenda pushing rather than genuine thoughts.
dya's posts honestly just seemed rough to me and felt reminiscent of their wolf game, they didn't do much other than the GH read which I disliked. Their response to me felt like trying to get me off their back, I thought the post about benneh wanting them to be a wolf was weird. Still plenty of time but yeah.
I've already talked about Logic a good amount, but if they're a villager I dont get what he's doing because he looks how he plays when he's a wolf so far. Posts feel forced and missing the purposefulness behind his solving when he's town. His suspicion on me just doesn't feel real ngl, it's also kind of incoherent and confusing which is not something I associate with him as a villager at all. Again, plenty of time to change and I think Logic is usually a fairly obvious villager once he gets going, so we'll see, but early signs not looking croggers.
Should be everyone, any gaps in my reasoning assume the answer for why I feel that way is "vibes".
Out for awhile.
:creep:
re dya, i think thats just kinda a part of their gme now, i see it a lot d1
re logic, yeah opening sucked, but i was rereading a game i played where he was a wolf and i was a villager hard townreading him cause he gave a bunch of like faux effort (and tbh that first post was like straight out of that game lmao) and i think i will just let him do his thing for now and revisit later
Skimmed the last few pages (on phone, so I don't know how much info I actually absorbed).
- GH hasn't done anything AI yet, applause to Zack for acknowledging that
- Boo to Zack for the Logic tunnel. I think Logic is town.
- Both of these makes me kinda gut read Zack as villager too though.
- Ladd vibes town. There was a post someone called tryhard/wolfy that I just found inherently towny. That kind of contrast feels towny though, "someone" is probably town. I'll check out who before going to work.
the worst part about today is that i can't lunch both zack AND gh
Then there's this guy
Hi Visor!
(Hi Arctic!)
The word tunnel has truly lost any meaning it once had
Skimmed the last few pages (on phone, so I don't know how much info I actually absorbed).
- GH hasn't done anything AI yet, applause to Zack for acknowledging that
- Boo to Zack for the Logic tunnel. I think Logic is town.
- Both of these makes me kinda gut read Zack as villager too though.
- Ladd vibes town. There was a post someone called tryhard/wolfy that I just found inherently towny. That kind of contrast feels towny though, "someone" is probably town. I'll check out who before going to work.
wolfy use of applause
The word tunnel has truly lost any meaning it once had
i tunneled your mum last night
ngl man your reason for saying you thought hally was a wolf "despite making 99% good posts" seems pretty fake
i dont want to tunnel ladd or anything but yeah whew this re-entrance is a doozy
lock v never rescinding btw
Oh it's Zack hitting hard not agreeing with me once again.
Zack town
Logic town
Ladd town
GH null
I regret nothing!
wolfy use of applause
I missed you too!
The word tunnel has truly lost any meaning it once had
All wolf reads I disagree with are tunnels :wowee:
Vanta Black
02-13-2024, 08:44
rescinded btw
Is this because I made one post and got quiet?
Vanta Black
02-13-2024, 08:45
Did I just double post? Eek
hey vanta
hope you enjoy your time here
Vote: vanta black :curtain:
- Ladd vibes town. There was a post someone called tryhard/wolfy that I just found inherently towny. That kind of contrast feels towny though, "someone" is probably town. I'll check out who before going to work.
i am a bit confused by this whole sentence, is the second part about me or someone else? cause i def havent been tryhardy lmao
why do you v read logic?
https://i.imgur.com/ORxzGUO.jpeg
So you know ..
I am european.
That it was 6 am when you made those posts.
and that I have one of the more annoying cases of covid going on right now (including fever headaches shivers loss of taste etc).
And the one person in this game you felt like you really needed at that moment in time is me?
When according to your own statement you thought me a wolf earlier?!
I have to assume that this is just a serious heat stroke on your part.
Anyway ... mostly back. Read stuff while in bed. Fed cats. Forced myself upright for a moment.
Maybe I even have thoughts in my next post but I would be surprised if they are all that different from Zacks recent word vomit (good vomit like a birb feeding smaller birbs).
129 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053853698&viewfull=1#post2053853698) i mindmelded with at the time, i had stupid plans to pretend to w read jan at the start of the game then actually got pinged by some of his posts and ohno so ender being on that wavelength feels good maybe especially because incoherent, kind of irrelevant bc its jan but i liekd it anyway
i mean if you planned to pretend to w read jan and the start of the game and then he actually pinged you, why not push him? seems like the logic(al) conlusion to me
what posts from jan pinged you?
i am a bit confused by this whole sentence, is the second part about me or someone else? cause i def havent been tryhardy lmao
why do you v read logic?
First sentence is you, rest turned out to be about Zack.
I found the timing of Logic's "X is usually good at reading me" to imply a towny perspective, I could probably flesh it out better when I'm not phoneposting but that's the core vibe at least.
Hey, Vanta! New player (to me) hype!
This might be the time where I check out the playerlist.
Hally has had so many copypastas that anyone could be in this game right now.
Nah you are right
Rask is a villager and artic push on them felt super malicious
And not beacause rask is a villager, the reasoning just feels way off...rask is a wolf for fosing a lot of people? Cmn friendo thats not a real reason
Question!
Do you think arctic after getting shit from the get go doubles down on his approach and stumbles over his feet while trying to case Rask?
I don't know Arctic really (unless I know a different alt name who knows in this economy) so this is both a serious question as well as me questioning your read.
Just a rare progression for a wolf. Not impossible but it is normally the road not taken.
That's 4 more players than I expected
Vanta Black
02-13-2024, 08:55
Okay, with absolutely very little meta to go on, in fact let's say none, I'm kinda townreading Raskol and Jan, kinda FOS on Arctic, Ladd, and Dyachie, and sorta null on everybody else. Also I guess Benneh is really Nebjiamn (my list came from the signup list).
I kinda go with vibes, at least early game, if you're wondering where this very lame reads list came from.
I do not agree with the dog name list. I would never name a dog something more than 2 syllables.
Sorry I haven't provided a lot of content, I got here late and was reading from the beginning.
Push me, I'll post more then.
That's 4 more players than I expected
You're welcome?
Vanta Black
02-13-2024, 08:56
hey vanta
hope you enjoy your time here
Vote: vanta black :curtain:
Hi there.
You're welcome?
Why aren't you obv town yet!?
oh hey i remembered right lmao
i was sure dya made a villa read on gh for not tryharding in some other game here:
kind of a weird read but I kind of like that GH stepped away from the game after the hydra game ended. feels like if he were wolfing he'd be more likely to try hard after a loss there
He was but like...I feel like he makes himself tryhard as a wolf
Sorry, covid, I forgot
Take care!
Question!
Do you think arctic after getting shit from the get go doubles down on his approach and stumbles over his feet while trying to case Rask?
I don't know Arctic really (unless I know a different alt name who knows in this economy) so this is both a serious question as well as me questioning your read.
Just a rare progression for a wolf. Not impossible but it is normally the road not taken.
i am gonna be real, i only read the game once at 4 am, barely awake and while in bed. i am catching up in a more human way now
so the answer is - i am not sure i know what you are talking about but i'll get back at you when i am properly caught up
(but also wolves make wolfy posts..so on a conceptual level i dont see why they wouldnt stumble over their own feet?)
i feel like if there's anyone bussing logic it's you
where have you decisively pushed him lol? the first time you mentioned him was agreeing with zack's sus on him and then you said he had a "meh" opening
vote: Raskolnikov
i dunno man this is like strike 3 for weirdness
i mean i dunno, i feel like i could say the same about logic (which is ironically what you all jumped on ender for even though i kinda agree with his assessment)
but even if i was misinterpreting that last post i don't think being french explains the sus on hally or how it feels like they're fos'ing like the entire game
these posts still feel wolfy to me, jan
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hally explained it pretty well here so i don't really feel like repeating why:
i have like the exact opposite read from you guys on arctic’s string of posts just now lol
i don’t get why he’s harping on rask’s push so much. afaict the actual crux of rask’s read is more so that i’m underwhelming and mostly just joking around with people / not being the power villager of ye olden days. seems like a completely fine observation to me? but arctic seems to be ignoring the actual gist of what rask is saying and just focusing on him initially saying i was pockety (which i agree is not the right word to describe my play but i think get what he meant now)
also he said he’s wolf reading rask for “susing the entire game” but 1) rask is not really doing that imo and 2) even if he was, that would be villagery not wolfy especially when the main targets are stronger players, which i think arctic should know
idk feels like he’s trying hard to paint rask as wolfy when there’s nothing really there imo
tangential kinda but i kinda get w/w vibes from how arctic is talking about logic. like how he soft defends logic by saying he could say logic is just posting like himself too (does arctic even know logic?) then is at the same time going at rask saying that if anyone is busing logic it’s rask. like wat
in other news, uhh as i was walking home just now i got assaulted by this random guy (i’m fine, just a bit shaken up) so that’s fun. but on the bright side i get to work from home tomorrow because we’re getting a snowstorm
This is where I stand right now.
But the differences between groups are so small that some of those reads could rise or drop just based on me remembering something.
Spoilers are just some reasons for the slightly less obvious slots.
Pile of villagers:
Zack
Benneh
Raskolnikov
A likely villager next to the other villagers that I am afraid to pile on for reasons beyond me:
Hally
the frustration here felt villagery:
mfw i’m one of the top posters and the only two reads people have given on me are that i seem blendy and an NAI post i made in rvs is the one that sticks out the most as opposed to any of the ones where i actually try to solve the game
guess i should have stayed retired lmfao
Or daily dose of bait (as of right now I lean both of them villa but the day is young and I am hungry. )
Arctic
Logic
Gun to head villas. Honest null reads.
Syn
Dyachei
GH
--- null line
gun to head wolves. honest null reads.
Visor
Ladd
Gemma
Leftovers
Wisdom
Vanta Black
People who I want questioned:
Murska
Ender
I disliked enders entry, which really does not matter because it was very minor.
The "I want to case Jan" followed by a nevermind hours later is what gets me as of right now.
It feels like killing me got out of reach and not worse the work, but to me any case you make on anybody gives me a chance to actually read you.
And you going limp when I get excited is just not fun for anybody.
Murksa felt early like the possible wolf falling into the arctic trap. I needed 2-3 arctic posts to switch from "look a wolf" to "well maybe that is just playstyle" (= null read).
That vote and the timing to show back up shorty after I talked about it just to disappear again.
Does not feel like somebody trying to solve the game in any way. (the only upside is that the vote stayed after my attack which shows some conviction. I like that)
Might be around to answer questions if you have any. I only feels slightly confident about the top 4 and the main reason I feel confident about those is because everybody else left me underwhelmed so far.
murska posts actually felt good to me (with the caveat that there is very few of them), but they seem more like a mislunch the wolves will eventually need to push than an actual wolf
zack/rask/jan are my top villas, in this order. think hally is fine too for d1
i get people pushing dya but i also think dya's string of posts isnt really wolfy for them nowadays. we shall see how it evolves tho
curious what Visor thinks of syn, i know zack said they felt like classic syn but i have played the last like 4 org games with them and their play here feels very different to me shrug.jpg
idk if i have anything else interesting to say or thats not already been said
Vote: Arctic
Okay I actually take back my earlier read
what di you not like about their post?
umm but seriously speaking
even if the main reason for rask's push is being underwhelming, that's not much better either? because everyone is underwhelming lol. half the list isn't even playing yet. it's a light game and everyone's kinda messing around, so i don't think it makes sense to single you out for this. i also don't know if i'd consider this wolfy for you even if you weren't the only person doing this because i'm used to you kinda doing nothing in turbos on day 1 as town and trying harder as mafia
it did feel like rask was sussing a lot of people - he said he felt meh on you and benneh and sussed me, logic, and murska - that's 5 people, and maybe they aren't fleshed out wolfreads but the implication is still kinda there. and idk i'm just kinda predisposed to wolfread this personally cuz i got off a wolfgame where i kinda did the same game, and "how easy this person is to push" wasn't something i really thought about at this early of a stage, wolves don't need to push everyone they wolfread, they just need to sow the seeds and see what sticks
i have played with logic before yes, once, and i incorrectly suspected him in that game mostly because of the way he spoke in binary/absolute terms and seeming generally awkward in the way he came across, so i haven't found the pushes on him in this game convincing even though i don't townread him either. i said that about rask cuz i thought they were acting in a way that's w/w with logic even though i don't wolfread logic - that is, trying to milk cred for pushing him when he's barely done that (but according to everyone this is just a joke so w/e), and also his last post about me is implying a townread because of a preflip of logic wolf if i understand correctly. so yeah
oh and answering 209 at the same time - wait actually i kinda already answered this, i don't really think you lacking is wolfy because of my experience with you in turbos
murska posts actually felt good to me (with the caveat that there is very few of them), but they seem more like a mislunch the wolves will eventually need to push than an actual wolf
zack/rask/jan are my top villas, in this order. think hally is fine too for d1
i get people pushing dya but i also think dya's string of posts isnt really wolfy for them nowadays. we shall see how it evolves tho
curious what Visor thinks of syn, i know zack said they felt like classic syn but i have played the last like 4 org games with them and their play here feels very different to me shrug.jpg
idk if i have anything else interesting to say or thats not already been said
Fine with all of this.
I feel syn feels similar to the game(s) we shared with the caveat that it might be slightly less.
The snark-fuelled depressed one-line posts read the same I just think Syn had like 20% more substance before. (part of the toan-read can be me reading into the lisa simpson avatar)
But I am not certain in any way.
This should be my post #27.
So I will cool off for a little while unless questions arise.
Fine with all of this.
I feel syn feels similar to the game(s) we shared with the caveat that it might be slightly less.
The snark-fuelled depressed one-line posts read the same I just think Syn had like 20% more substance before. (part of the toan-read can be me reading into the lisa simpson avatar)
But I am not certain in any way.
This should be my post #27.
So I will cool off for a little while unless questions arise.
alrighty, their snark felt way more game relevant to me in the other games and it felt like they made immediately their presence felt and pushed people with a ton of convintion while here in 12 posts i am not sure they have made a real read/push
but its possible i am the 1 who is way off
The lack of people appreciating my master bait on GH is sad tbh.
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(really, what was the point?)
EnderWiggin
02-13-2024, 10:25
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(really, what was the point?)
Sorry I forgot humour isn't allowed on this holy christian mafia forum.
EnderWiggin
02-13-2024, 10:27
Also for Arctic yes, I am bladescape.
Mildly want to reverse my reverse on Arctic for the simple reason of actually having paid attention to my play more than most other people.
Back to Jan just because someone accused me of hopping off that.
Vote: Jan
EnderWiggin
02-13-2024, 10:29
In other news my entire area has either lost power or internet because #AustralianInfrastructure.
And I work tangential to the Power Industry. Today was a Fun Day.
Sorry I forgot humour isn't allowed on this holy christian mafia forum.
no thats what i figured lol
but gemma villa read you for it so i kinda thought maybe i was missing something deeper
but good thing you remembered humour is not allowed, thats strike 1 :curtain:
alrighty, their snark felt way more game relevant to me in the other games and it felt like they made immediately their presence felt and pushed people with a ton of convintion while here in 12 posts i am not sure they have made a real read/push
but its possible i am the 1 who is way off
wisdom can be town
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also anyone who's already wall-posted
this is a game i plan on investing exactly 6% energy into so this is about what you should expect unless someone tilts me and i throw a tantrum
anyway hi ender how's it going
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 10:51
Visor still town.
Arctic back to scum lean (I mean you would say the determination to paint me in a bad way is villagery - I mean it took me to read some of his posts twice to underestand what he was talking about, like my "push" on Hally - I made an observation, didn't even out a read - but actually I think he might be stuck into that mode for various wolfy reasons. like he saw it worked since Ender, Benneh, and I seemed to switch reads on his slot, also it does look towny. But actually it isn't simply because he isn't solving my slot.)
Syn's wolfing. (if you are wondering, he is the kind of player, like Visor, you can read after 2 posts and ignore for the rest of the game if villa. But this time he is a wolf. YEET)
Logic is really struggling to get into the thread. Even voicing it after several excuses allready. prolly a wolf too.
Dya dunno. I noted they were quick to townread Zack after he susses them but maybe nothing.
rest I have no idea.
(well Hally trending up, Zack looks good too. Benneh/Ender/GH null)
Jan I need to read a wolf game somewhere (link?) or just sheep gemma (I have her villa rn for tone only which might be dumb but not so much aorn)
Ladd is a pro and most likely villa: He is stealing all my reads :bow: (disclaimer: this isn't a real read. no idea on Ladd)
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 10:55
Now I'll seat back and let Visor tunnel Wisdom. (a future meme to be sure)
https://media.tenor.com/8-X55S7X7SwAAAAM/jason-momoa-this-is-going-to-be-good.gif
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 11:00
this is a game i plan on investing exactly 6% energy into so this is about what you should expect unless someone tilts me and i throw a tantrum
YEET YEET YEET
YEET
YEET
YEET
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Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 11:01
Vote: Syn
no idea on the vc though Totally not Taffy
Syn's wolfing. (if you are wondering, he is the kind of player, like Visor, you can read after 2 posts and ignore for the rest of the game if villa. But this time he is a wolf. YEET)
mean
EnderWiggin
02-13-2024, 11:21
Vote: Syn
I have no thoughts of my own.
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 11:49
Morning
Ended up being sick enough to justify calling out of work today, so at least there are some silver linings
Logic's read on me doesn't super make much sense but honestly I think he came about it in a town way, it's just so far out there lol. Like before I called it a night last night I was anticipating dropping a vote on him at some point during the day with an attached "sorry about the rand" type of comment to go with it but I think he may have avoided that fate, idk. Further elaboration pending further developments
Wisdom probably pinged me the most, think it boils mostly down to "feels" but there's probably something tangible in there I could talk about were I able to gin up the energy to
I'm going back to sleep now
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 11:51
mean
yeah true. I can't help but shitpost even if this is a serious read bronana. You are lacking your usual snark and agressivity tbh. Think someone else mentionned it (Ladd?).
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I agree with Jan that murska may be the wolf failing into the Arctic trap, unless Arctic is a wolf in the first place (which I have convinced myself overnight) so there is that. I don't think they could be together because that would be the most quick, unnecessary and hilarious bus in history. I liked murska's post about Zack and me because it is true but it's globally a slot that needs to do more to avoid being on the chopping block imo.
tl,dr murska null; not ww with Arctic.
GH wolf reading me right off the bat is probably towny? I mean, it’s generally towny to wolf read me, especially if that's not a known habit (which Visor's read is).
Syn town reading me is also nai, I wrongly tunneled him for it last time and before that I correctly town read him for it. Again, when it's a habit it’s easier to fake, I have no read there.
Rask going hard on Syn looks good, town point for Rask.
Ladd seeming a bit lost is honestly a good look for him, another town point there. Not really sure why I initially got pinged by him.
Morning (afternoon).
my reread got me sus vibes for EnderWiggin due to general sense of tension / defensiveness in posts. I'd like to suspect Jan a bit more, but they're sick, so I'll give it time.
However, my current parked vote doesn't seem useful for pressure (even though it might return to Arctic later, I'm not convinced) so I'll join this little push for no particular reason but to see what happens
Vote: Syn
I don't think they could be together because that would be the most quick, unnecessary and hilarious bus in history.
are you kidding? Putting a second vote on someone at the start of day is nowhere near a bus, I could switch it off later for pretty much any reason (like I just did).
EnderWiggin
02-13-2024, 12:56
Morning (afternoon).
my reread got me sus vibes for EnderWiggin due to general sense of tension / defensiveness in posts. I'd like to suspect Jan a bit more, but they're sick, so I'll give it time.
However, my current parked vote doesn't seem useful for pressure (even though it might return to Arctic later, I'm not convinced) so I'll join this little push for no particular reason but to see what happens
Vote: Syn
But you're okay voting with me? Sus.
But you're okay voting with me? Sus.
I'm voting with rask, you I can take or leave
Morning (afternoon).
my reread got me sus vibes for EnderWiggin due to general sense of tension / defensiveness in posts. I'd like to suspect Jan a bit more, but they're sick, so I'll give it time.
However, my current parked vote doesn't seem useful for pressure (even though it might return to Arctic later, I'm not convinced) so I'll join this little push for no particular reason but to see what happens
Vote: Syn
My health should not make a difference at this point. I am an active player in the game and should be judged as such.
You actually having a go at me might give others a chance to read you.
Because so far you are just a pile-on vote.
Wisdom has risen to obvious villa btw.
And Ender and Murska having the most awkward conversation makes me smile for reasons based on my reads.
Other than that I am sad that we apparently won't get to play the game today.
EnderWiggin
02-13-2024, 13:18
I see this is going to be one of those games.
So you know ..
I am european.
That it was 6 am when you made those posts.
and that I have one of the more annoying cases of covid going on right now (including fever headaches shivers loss of taste etc).
And the one person in this game you felt like you really needed at that moment in time is me?
When according to your own statement you thought me a wolf earlier?!
I have to assume that this is just a serious heat stroke on your part.
Anyway ... mostly back. Read stuff while in bed. Fed cats. Forced myself upright for a moment.
Maybe I even have thoughts in my next post but I would be surprised if they are all that different from Zacks recent word vomit (good vomit like a birb feeding smaller birbs).
Okay, well this post is terrible. why would town care about someone in the thread throwing a tiny prod at them, let alone fake this much emotional affect into an indignant reply up to bringing up real life problems? Then there's all the explaining of why you're not contributing, and that last birb part is extra faked to try to lighten the tone
I see this is going to be one of those games.
I mostly really dislike Murskas Syn vote.
I think your interaction following it read somewhat awkward but I could be wrong. (I tend to be wrong a lot. the important part is only to be right in the end)
My impression of the game right now:
Rask goes hard on syn.
Syn basically concedes.
I have reread d1 of cereal mafia (the game gemma hosted on here) because I was sure there was some polarizing interaction between them as well.
In that game Rask has Syn locked in as villa on page 1 in a similar way. (or rather the reverse way, but it is the same process).
I believe Ender knows this meta and is happy following right away with his empty vote.
Wisdom does not realize how bad Syn's position at this point is and just makes a post reading syn rask and ladd
Murska has a somewhat overexplaining pile on third vote on Syn.
I think Wisdom is fairly obvious villa here.
Murska is a likely partner.
And I am unsure about Ender.
Wow okay, I did not know the meta nor read Syn as lock wolf here. I just saw a push with what looked like okay reasoning and wanted to give it a kick downhill and see what happens.
EnderWiggin
02-13-2024, 13:52
My comment there was mostly exasperated snark because there are just some games where people seem to take every comment I post as wolfy somehow in an absolutely baffling display of aligning my words to what they have decided to believe.
It's not a "When I'm town" thing either because sometimes it happens when I'm wolf. So I think it's just a "My playstyle somehow occasionally falls into this line." (I would say it happens more when town but this is not researched and possibly skewed because it sticks in my memory more when I am actually town.)
Just feels like every post I make someone jumps on it in some way.
Not to find me but to sus me.
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Re: Syn. I know Rask has a ~good read on him, but I also was just sussing him so I wanted to see what happened when I joined Rask. I don't think Rask is as set as he says but the pressure/wagon will be a good way to find out.
I kinda lean villa on wisdom (regardless of anytging syn related)
I could explain why but its all meta so i doubt anyone cares
Wow okay, I did not know the meta nor read Syn as lock wolf here. I just saw a push with what looked like okay reasoning and wanted to give it a kick downhill and see what happens.
Apologies if true and this is some sort of friendly fire.
Just in case Rasks page 1 read on syn that game:
old game quotes. not to be confused with ongoing game content
Good morning friendos and welcome to the finally out of retirement newcomers. (been there lol)
Yes Monty, this was a special edition of an Achro post from the last game lol.
I've determined through expert skill exercice that Syn is town. :yes:
+ Visors reaction (basically confirming said meta read)
The good news is that if syn is a wolf Monty and rask are his partners :curtain:
And the reasoning explained:
Nothing... you are a friendo. But the read is there aorn: your tone and lack of doubt and circonvolution pings me as town!Syn. Not sure you play/care enough to make this evolve so there is that.
Compare that read with Rasks read this game on Syn.
Add Syn's "lame" reaction which feels like giving up.
Re: Syn. I know Rask has a ~good read on him, but I also was just sussing him so I wanted to see what happened when I joined Rask. I don't think Rask is as set as he says but the pressure/wagon will be a good way to find out.
I'd rather be happy than right tbh.
Because if I am right with any of this then today might be somewhat less interesting from here on out.
EnderWiggin
02-13-2024, 14:08
I'd rather be happy than right tbh.
Because if I am right with any of this then today might be somewhat less interesting from here on out.
You should join us in finding out.
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 14:13
Vote: Abstain, courteously
:bow:
Can those who wolf read me and those who town read me fight each other in a sunrise duel? I counted it to 3-3 so should be fair!
Jan Ladd Syn vs GH Visor Rask
I'd bet there's 1-2 wolves in those 6.
Can those who wolf read me and those who town read me fight each other in a sunrise duel? I counted it to 3-3 so should be fair!
Jan Ladd Syn vs GH Visor Rask
I'd bet there's 1-2 wolves in those 6.
I don't think we can sync up our sunrises.
Any chance we can make it high noon instead?
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 14:37
rereading the overnight series of posts now that I'm fully awake proved to be less enlightening than I had hoped for
idk how I feel about Syn, the current wagon du jour, it straight up feels null/too early to me, not sure they've fully gotten into the game yet. Rask seems fine though so I'll probably just sheep him on whatever direction he ends up going in with that/passively let it happen maybe. ladd is less likely than Rask to be town but I think they both independently came to the same read which means that somebody who's actually paying attention and is town genuinely believes Syn to be scum through meta, so sure, lol. we shall see
dya I'm putting off to the side for now, will reeval when they come back in thread and make a few more posts
Arctic... seems ok I guess? I'll be the first to admit that I haven't fully processed their more recent posts but I just think he's town, lol, no real reason for it or anything. I do think part of this is a holdover from his early posting which struck me as a straight up case of TWTBAW but there's been nothing in his more recent stuff that's actively pinged me like a couple of other people have
I guess my main point of contention against Wisdom is the focuses (foci?) of her posts so far, it feels like she's kind of artificially picking and choosing what to discuss rather than naturally talking about whatever comes to mind. This probably isn't the best sequence/explanation but it just doesn't really pass the smell test for me in terms of nittery little stuff like formatting/conversational points and the timeliness thereof, etc
Skimmed the last few pages (on phone, so I don't know how much info I actually absorbed).
- GH hasn't done anything AI yet, applause to Zack for acknowledging that
- Boo to Zack for the Logic tunnel. I think Logic is town.
- Both of these makes me kinda gut read Zack as villager too though.
- Ladd vibes town. There was a post someone called tryhard/wolfy that I just found inherently towny. That kind of contrast feels towny though, "someone" is probably town. I'll check out who before going to work.
Oh it's Zack hitting hard not agreeing with me once again.
Zack town
Logic town
Ladd town
GH null
I regret nothing!
I know this is like, impossible for Wisdom to argue against/even discuss really so I won't elaborate further, I don't really think I've even done a good job of articulating it myself. It just felt a bit off, idk really.
Ender's kind of in that Arctic zone but has straight up felt more likely to be mafia than Arctic when I read their posts than Arctic does. One of their recent posts feels like the wolfy kind of self-awareness specifically, but it's beyond that, it's a general penumbra really.
Also for Arctic yes, I am bladescape.
Mildly want to reverse my reverse on Arctic for the simple reason of actually having paid attention to my play more than most other people.
Back to Jan just because someone accused me of hopping off that.
Vote: Jan
bolded redtext by me for emphasis
I don't think we can sync up our sunrises.
Any chance we can make it high noon instead?
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02-13-2024, 15:00
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This is the only correct answer to the Nic Cage question, but you're all forgiven bc I have tmi
Current Vote Count
Ender (3) : Zack, Benneh, Syn
Syn (3) : Raskolnikov, Ender, Murska
Dyachei (1) : Arctic
Logic (1) : Hally
Vanta (1) : Visor
GH (1) : Gemma
Abstain (1) : GH
Haven't voted: Wisdom, Dyachei, Logic, Ladd, Vanta, Jan
Vote History
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vote: Arctic
vote: nebjiamn
Vote: Logic
Vote: logic
Vote: Logic
vote: logic
vote: Visor
Vote: Jan
Vote: EnderWiggin
vote: Raskolnikov
Vote: GH
Vote: Arctic
vote: Enderwiggin
vote: dyachei
vote: EnderWiggin
Vote: GH
Vote: vanta black
Vote: Jan
Vote: Syn
Vote: Syn
Vote: Syn
Vote: Abstain
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Your next vote count will be at the 47hr mark when the postcap lifts. Until then, use math.
You can ask your kids to help, Rask.
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 15:16
oh, and Logic:
you're not the only person in this game who I owe a conversation-continuing DM to in Discord, so that's more me being socially avoidant than townie. :curtain:
I forgot that Benneh was playing.
Benneh is top 3 posters.
Anyone got a take on him to share?
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 15:24
I forgot that Benneh was playing.
Benneh is top 3 posters.
Anyone got a take on him to share?
not really
do you?
I forgot that Benneh was playing.
Benneh is top 3 posters.
Anyone got a take on him to share?
He is either a villager with Zack or
A wolf who made a point in pocketing Zack all game by faking delayed mindmeld + frustration about said mindmelds.
I would love for it to be #2 but somebody's razor told me it is not and I am not allowed to argue with appliances anymore.
not really
do you?
My only take is that me forgetting about him isn't a great sign, as in, his posts and takes didn't have oomph enough to stick. I don't know if that's really enough to warrant a town read, though!
nebjiamn
02-13-2024, 15:49
i dont think anyone should have a solid read on me at this point. it would be rather sad for my wolf range if you did
Genuine question - when?
You said this pretty definitively ("legitimately wrong") but I'm not sure what you're referring to tbh.
I don't remember a specific game, but I do remember you being among the voices pushing me out, and I flipped town. I also distinctly remember you saying at several points in the past (mostly in #spec-chat) something to the effect of "Logic is an easy read" or "Logic is transparently town, until he's not, then he's wolfing." To which Visor, GH, and I believe Ladd all agreed.
hey vanta
hope you enjoy your time here
Vote: vanta black :curtain:
I was planning on voting Vanta as soon as I read these two back-to-back.
i kind of want to vote arctic for voting me. Not really OMGUS but because it felt like he was glomming onto something instead of making his own read there.
I really dont get why I SHOULDN'T read GH first. It's been a while but I have quite a bit of experience with him and used to read him decently.
and he's also not my only read. I really, truly think that the way zavck is approaching me is his village game. His approach to me is wrong, but not in a wolfy way. He puts this kin o pressure on me when he's a villager often
nebjiamn
02-13-2024, 16:29
i kind of want to vote arctic for voting me. Not really OMGUS but because it felt like he was glomming onto something instead of making his own read there.
I really dont get why I SHOULDN'T read GH first. It's been a while but I have quite a bit of experience with him and used to read him decently.
and he's also not my only read. I really, truly think that the way zavck is approaching me is his village game. His approach to me is wrong, but not in a wolfy way. He puts this kin o pressure on me when he's a villager often
any other reads?
i'm conflicted on arctic cause i townread there but others are pushing back on it and not sure what to do but idt i'd vote him today. lolme if wrong ig
im curious your reads, if any, on visor and logic and ender specifically
any other reads?
i'm conflicted on arctic cause i townread there but others are pushing back on it and not sure what to do but idt i'd vote him today. lolme if wrong ig
im curious your reads, if any, on visor and logic and ender specifically
idk how to read logic, never really have. Visor i'm still waiting for more on. But I do think it's a good look he sort of defended me because it would have been easy to not and I've found him as wolf before. Ender and I have an oppositional view of each other in almost every game. I think he's wolfy and haven't liked his posts, but I'm not very accurate on him
nebjiamn
02-13-2024, 16:33
i have a dumb reason to v read ladd in that i think he'd have just pocketed me by now
but he's good at the game and almost always 1 to 10 levels ahead of me so maybe he didn't cause he knew i'd fall for the reverse non-pocket
but fr i'd imagine i'd have found myself clumped somewhere in his townreads if not his 'most obvious town' even though i haven't really been playing in a manner to deserve that, but he usually TMIs me town like that when wolf and his approach here, to neither really town or wolf lean me and just have me in his reads-purgatory makes me think v
i concede this is an exceedingly dumb way to read ladd and it would be very on brand for me to be wrong on him but i'm goin with it
nebjiamn
02-13-2024, 16:35
i kind of want to vote arctic for voting me. Not really OMGUS but because it felt like he was glomming onto something instead of making his own read there.
I really dont get why I SHOULDN'T read GH first. It's been a while but I have quite a bit of experience with him and used to read him decently.
and he's also not my only read. I really, truly think that the way zavck is approaching me is his village game. His approach to me is wrong, but not in a wolfy way. He puts this kin o pressure on me when he's a villager often
i'm mildly concerned with visor cause he feels more 'bouncy' this game and i feel like some of his joke-y posts feel misplaced but it could just be a me thing
and his meta over the last 3 games would really allow him to post this way as a wolf and get away with it but i admit its not much to go on
i am a bit confused by this whole sentence, is the second part about me or someone else? cause i def havent been tryhardy lmao
why do you v read logic?
I like this post from Ladd. While I like wisdom's V-read of me, there was no substance behind it, and this question feels genuine.
i'm mildly concerned with visor cause he feels more 'bouncy' this game and i feel like some of his joke-y posts feel misplaced but it could just be a me thing
and his meta over the last 3 games would really allow him to post this way as a wolf and get away with it but i admit its not much to go on
if you look at the last game, that may be true for early game but later game he brought it
Vote: Syn
I have no thoughts of my own.
Wolfy tack-on, m'lord
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 16:43
Can those who wolf read me and those who town read me fight each other in a sunrise duel? I counted it to 3-3 so should be fair!
Jan Ladd Syn vs GH Visor Rask
I'd bet there's 1-2 wolves in those 6.
Don't think I have a read on you fame?
I was mostly amused at Visor voting you in a meme fashion.
Still, can you articulate your thought? Because I can give you 6 random names of a 17er and there will be 1-2 woofs in it. (sorry for wording it like that, but really I don't get your point specifically)
But you're okay voting with me? Sus.
I know I just gave you grief for doing this, but you are also calling it out from murska, which I find a tad sus, regardless of who it comes from
i have a dumb reason to v read ladd in that i think he'd have just pocketed me by now
but he's good at the game and almost always 1 to 10 levels ahead of me so maybe he didn't cause he knew i'd fall for the reverse non-pocket
but fr i'd imagine i'd have found myself clumped somewhere in his townreads if not his 'most obvious town' even though i haven't really been playing in a manner to deserve that, but he usually TMIs me town like that when wolf and his approach here, to neither really town or wolf lean me and just have me in his reads-purgatory makes me think v
i concede this is an exceedingly dumb way to read ladd and it would be very on brand for me to be wrong on him but i'm goin with it
cool post regardless of your alignment eheh
(you are posting fine but i dont really have a read on you)
Wow okay, I did not know the meta nor read Syn as lock wolf here. I just saw a push with what looked like okay reasoning and wanted to give it a kick downhill and see what happens.
I don't like this post.
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 16:49
i'm mildly concerned with visor cause he feels more 'bouncy' this game and i feel like some of his joke-y posts feel misplaced but it could just be a me thing
and his meta over the last 3 games would really allow him to post this way as a wolf and get away with it but i admit its not much to go on
I'd expect wolf!Visor to still have more presence with this particular roster tbh (also check last game he woofed here, first game Sunbae hosted here in 2023 iirc). works for D1 I guess lol
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 16:50
I don't like this post.
why? where is your head at Logic?
oh, and Logic:
you're not the only person in this game who I owe a conversation-continuing DM to in Discord, so that's more me being socially avoidant than townie. :curtain:
Towny excuse
But I expect you to get on it
:whip:
idk how to read logic, never really have. Visor i'm still waiting for more on. But I do think it's a good look he sort of defended me because it would have been easy to not and I've found him as wolf before. Ender and I have an oppositional view of each other in almost every game. I think he's wolfy and haven't liked his posts, but I'm not very accurate on him
Self-involved and egotistical read tells me that this more likely town dya than wolf dya.
I'd expect wolf!Visor to still have more presence with this particular roster tbh (also check last game he woofed here, first game Sunbae hosted here in 2023 iirc). works for D1 I guess lol
i like this post. Idk, if rask is a wolf, he just made the game harder on himself than he needed to
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 16:54
You can ask your kids to help, Rask.
lmao it's the one yearly week they are off to greatparents :whip:
why? where is your head at Logic?
I think this reads as overly defensive for what is basically a pinprick of pressure.
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 16:55
My only take is that me forgetting about him isn't a great sign, as in, his posts and takes didn't have oomph enough to stick. I don't know if that's really enough to warrant a town read, though!
I'll assume you meant to say "enough to warrant a *wolf* read, though" here
and noted
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 16:57
I'm also about ready to drop the shield on Logic, btw :knight:
Don't think I have a read on you fame?
I was mostly amused at Visor voting you in a meme fashion.
Still, can you articulate your thought? Because I can give you 6 random names of a 17er and there will be 1-2 woofs in it. (sorry for wording it like that, but really I don't get your point specifically)
Yeah, I realized that was very much =rand to say 1-2 in 6.
Let's change the numbers!
Ladd's town.
I think you could be town as well.
Let's say 2-3 wolves in Syn/GH/Visor/Jan!
Better odds now, yes?
Nuke 'em and see what happens!
Now that I'm caught up, I can give my full, current accounting of my reads.
Towns (unsorted, and of varying confidence levels)
GH
Dya
Gemma (now fully disentangled from Ender)
Town-leans
Jan
Ladd
Wisdom
Scum-leans
Murska
Ender
Zack
Vanta
Anyone not mentioned is either a null or I forgot you were playing.
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 16:58
I think this reads as overly defensive for what is basically a pinprick of pressure.
lol I just read another post where you were articulating a town read, was just wondering.
I am just asking for a global view of the game, if you have one. I mean
I'll assume you meant to say "enough to warrant a *wolf* read, though" here
and noted
Yep, wolf read, thanks!
Words are hard, good thing I'm not an author or anything
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 16:59
Now that I'm caught up, I can give my full, current accounting of my reads.
Towns (unsorted, and of varying confidence levels)
GH
Dya
Gemma (now fully disentangled from Ender)
Town-leans
Jan
Ladd
Wisdom
Scum-leans
Murska
Ender
Zack
Vanta
Anyone not mentioned is either a null or I forgot you were playing.
why is Gemma town?
nebjiamn
02-13-2024, 17:04
Now that I'm caught up, I can give my full, current accounting of my reads.
Towns (unsorted, and of varying confidence levels)
GH
Dya
Gemma (now fully disentangled from Ender)
Town-leans
Jan
Ladd
Wisdom
Scum-leans
Murska
Ender
Zack
Vanta
Anyone not mentioned is either a null or I forgot you were playing.
I have no idea how you are wolf reading Zack here
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 17:08
Jan: what is your spiciest read? what the rest of this day should be about? (noted your posts about Syn)
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 17:13
lol I just read another post where you were articulating a town read, was just wondering.
I am just asking for a global view of the game, if you have one. I mean
doubling-down on this because actually Logic is rubbing me the wrong way. Like it feels you didn't notice my earlier posts about murska. Accusing me of a chainsaw defense of him (even if not worded, it's basically what your "overly defensive" means) is a bit sketchy tbh.
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 17:17
doubling-down on this because actually Logic is rubbing me the wrong way. Like it feels you didn't notice my earlier posts about murska. Accusing me of a chainsaw defense of him (even if not worded, it's basically what your "overly defensive" means) is a bit sketchy tbh.
doesn't matter, he's town
drop it and focus elsewhere
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 17:27
doesn't matter, he's town
drop it and focus elsewhere
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Jan: what is your spiciest read? what the rest of this day should be about? (noted your posts about Syn)
Spice?
Maybe:
are you kidding? Putting a second vote on someone at the start of day is nowhere near a bus, I could switch it off later for pretty much any reason (like I just did).
As a reaction to you thinking he would not be w/w with arctic based on his quick vote.
At the time I thought it might actually spew arctic if Murska is a wolf and the whole reaction felt like a bit much.
I have overreacted because somebody simply made a bad read before, but this read only implies if you are Murska is a wolf so it should not matter.
But I am fairly aware that I have red tinted glasses when reading Murska posts at the moment.
Most other stuff is not spicey. if your read is correct then ladd and wisdom jump up in my reads.
Gemma is a really weird spot because she clearly joined the thread with a plan but never really did anything with it.
She enters thread by copying the same format someone else used earlier.
This is to some extend a call back to a joke, but also makes it clear she has read some of the thread and that this might not be an rvs vote.
Vote: GH
(real)
After which there is talk about missing the rvs phase but wanting to shitpost. Which she didn't really do that much outside of 1 prepared post.
She then quotes me while I am talking about not wanting to play ww at this moment and asks this:
por que no los dos
whats your gh read tea leaves welcome
GH at this point has no real content and only shitposts. Really odd person to ask to be read. All of it felt like she had an agenda either towards me or gh or both but I was not sure what her alignment is.
She went into her initial posts with a plan and the plan was not shitposting. The shitposting was some dress up on the side.
Dunno just a thought that has been in my head ever since but never felt like there is a reason to push on it.
I've been waiting to see if gh dropped the shield or not. I'm pretty happy to not have to worry much about logic. Sorry, logic, you're just a hard read for me
sup
i skimmed what i missed overnight and i still feel like logic is just a wolf? his posts are just bad imo, and not like bad in a way that strikes me in a oddball villa type way. they are just straight up not good. i do recall logic being weird as town but iirc you could usually see past that and find the villager in him, whereas here when i read his posts i’m like “water u doin pal lol,” which is how i recall reacting when he’s a wolf. idk it just seems like he’s struggling and i’m not sure i buy this is how he reacts to the push on him as a villager. he feels kinda resigned to it almost? like him saying zack is wolfy for pushing him felt super limp and like he feels like he’s “supposed” to sus zack for that but it feels like he just slapped it on cuz he’s not actually digging into why zack might have the read or whether it actually makes sense for w!zack to go so hard at him D1 or anything else that would actually tell him what zack’s alignment is beyond the level 0 of “zack is wrong about me so i should sus him for that” (ftr i think zack is a pretty obvious villager atp regardless of logic’s alignment)
jan is prob also villager. don’t really have an exciting reason but i just buy his posts idk, feels like villa jan imo
also still think rask is v, stronger now than before though because i don’t really think he needs to go so hard at syn as wolf
gonna try to firm up some town reads outside zack/jan/rask cuz i’m realizing that i don’t think i really town read anyone else and a lot of people are blending together in my head lol
re: ladd - i’m a bit skeeved out by how much he’s amplifying my wolf read on arctic and doesn’t seem to have anyone else he thinks is wolfy besides syn which is not really that inspiring. but it’s also entirely possible that he came to his read on arctic independently and just wasn’t there to post about it so i don’t wanna hold that against him, i just get scared when people agree with me like that lol, especially cuz his read on me seems to have nothing to do with it when it should be by far the most significant thing i’ve posted particularly from his pov? idk man
as i was typing this i got distracted by work stuff and forgot what else i wanted to say so uh hitting submit ~:handball:
ladd pushing me on the basis that my reason for sussing rask feels massively worse given what he said he had to suspect hally for (some post that felt like trying to fit in when he was fine with everything else she said?) but i dunno.. it kind of feels twtbaw almost
idk how i'm supposed to read logic when he's kinda just talking about people having similar pfps lmao (This isn't shade I'm more just like.. wtf) but I guess him going like "these ppl should be reading me correctly" when he had done like nothing readable at that point feels kinda towny. and it looks like visor+wisdom had the same thought
HI WISDOM
doesn't matter, he's town
drop it and focus elsewhere
lol right as i was feeling confident logic is a wolf
you should call yourself GeneralBuzkill
fr though, you’re gonna have to help me out here
oh hey i remembered right lmao
i was sure dya made a villa read on gh for not tryharding in some other game here:
this is like not at all what happened here
not tryharding does not equate to doing literally nothing AI which was the case in this game, and also in this game part of what made it wolfy from dya was the fact this was the first read they decided to make
it wouldn't read wolfy if someone asked them to give a gth take on GH or they forced it later in the game cuz they didn't have a take on GH yet, but the reason it's problematic is cuz it just wasn't necessary at all and it's a weird place for a villa to be focused
i'm coming for you when dya flips wolf (yes this implies a level of confidence that i haven't previously expressed, but i came to the realization earlier that i have not actually misread dya as far as i can remember and this just flat out feels like their wolfgame and i feel like you should know this too)
I don't really know what syn is doing and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do about half the game saying they sound normal and half the game saying they sound off cuz this means nothing to me
this is like not at all what happened here
not tryharding does not equate to doing literally nothing AI which was the case in this game, and also in this game part of what made it wolfy from dya was the fact this was the first read they decided to make
it wouldn't read wolfy if someone asked them to give a gth take on GH or they forced it later in the game cuz they didn't have a take on GH yet, but the reason it's problematic is cuz it just wasn't necessary at all and it's a weird place for a villa to be focused
i'm coming for you when dya flips wolf (yes this implies a level of confidence that i haven't previously expressed, but i came to the realization earlier that i have not actually misread dya as far as i can remember and this just flat out feels like their wolfgame and i feel like you should know this too)
Dya was a wolf in the game i quoted
I am not villareading dya
Good post Hally
I thought logic made some better posts this morning but the 100% confident shield drop from GH felt really premature, particularly with how GH has been playing so far
Just feels put on idk
why is Gemma town?
I'm vibing with gemma, seems nice.
I have no idea how you are wolf reading Zack here
Bold words from one of my "I forgot you were playing" reads.
(I did explain it, if you care to read more)
to me syn has blatantly not made any attempt to do things or appear like he’s doing things, feels like he’s just fucking around and daring people to shrug kill him afaict
seems rand unless his meta as wolf is to hard potato :shrug:
I forgot that Benneh was playing.
Benneh is top 3 posters.
Anyone got a take on him to share?
he said i was a good boy so he can live
Dya was a wolf in the game i quoted
I am not villareading dya
oh rofl
doubling-down on this because actually Logic is rubbing me the wrong way. Like it feels you didn't notice my earlier posts about murska. Accusing me of a chainsaw defense of him (even if not worded, it's basically what your "overly defensive" means) is a bit sketchy tbh.
I think you mistake me.
I was answering your question as to why I found murska suspect, not calling you out. The org doesn't nest any quotes, so the result lacks context.
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 18:13
lol right as i was feeling confident logic is a wolf
you should call yourself GeneralBuzkill
fr though, you’re gonna have to help me out here
I don't feel like it lol
to me syn has blatantly not made any attempt to do things or appear like he’s doing things, feels like he’s just fucking around and daring people to shrug kill him afaict
seems rand unless his meta as wolf is to hard potato :shrug:
vote: syn
Eheh
lol right as i was feeling confident logic is a wolf
you should call yourself GeneralBuzkill
fr though, you’re gonna have to help me out here
Hally can be town
i kind of want to vote arctic for voting me. Not really OMGUS but because it felt like he was glomming onto something instead of making his own read there.
I really dont get why I SHOULDN'T read GH first. It's been a while but I have quite a bit of experience with him and used to read him decently.
and he's also not my only read. I really, truly think that the way zavck is approaching me is his village game. His approach to me is wrong, but not in a wolfy way. He puts this kin o pressure on me when he's a villager often
yeah unfortunately some others pointed out what i said before me but that doesn't make you not a wolf nor does it make my thoughts any less valid
GH had made zero AI posts - you can go to read him first and then conclude that he in fact had zero AI posts but coming out with a townread on him for doing nothing is the issue. I think your read on zack could be real but to me it just felt like how wolves react to villagers pushing them correctly to appease them
you haven't found any wolves
I don't feel like it lol
grrr scowl shakes fist grrrrr
I've been waiting to see if gh dropped the shield or not. I'm pretty happy to not have to worry much about logic. Sorry, logic, you're just a hard read for me
If I'm wolf, you don't have to worry about me, because I'm a free dead wolf.
:laugh4:
I don't feel like it lol
Nah dude
If you want to play the card where you appeal to authority and demand people falls in line and follows you, put on your big boy pants and explain it
You're not the only person good at reading logic and I am nowhere close to a lock town, not even worth discussing read. When's the last time you even played with him?
Spice?
Maybe:
As a reaction to you thinking he would not be w/w with arctic based on his quick vote.
At the time I thought it might actually spew arctic if Murska is a wolf and the whole reaction felt like a bit much.
I have overreacted because somebody simply made a bad read before, but this read only implies if you are Murska is a wolf so it should not matter.
But I am fairly aware that I have red tinted glasses when reading Murska posts at the moment.
Most other stuff is not spicey. if your read is correct then ladd and wisdom jump up in my reads.
Gemma is a really weird spot because she clearly joined the thread with a plan but never really did anything with it.
She enters thread by copying the same format someone else used earlier.
This is to some extend a call back to a joke, but also makes it clear she has read some of the thread and that this might not be an rvs vote.
After which there is talk about missing the rvs phase but wanting to shitpost. Which she didn't really do that much outside of 1 prepared post.
She then quotes me while I am talking about not wanting to play ww at this moment and asks this:
GH at this point has no real content and only shitposts. Really odd person to ask to be read. All of it felt like she had an agenda either towards me or gh or both but I was not sure what her alignment is.
She went into her initial posts with a plan and the plan was not shitposting. The shitposting was some dress up on the side.
Dunno just a thought that has been in my head ever since but never felt like there is a reason to push on it.
this summarizes my thoughts on gemma pretty well and they are also in the group of people idk what to do with but not because i don't have thoughts just because i have conflicting thoughts
it felt like she entered with an agenda / unnatural focus but then carried on posting in a way that kinda broke away from this but still didn't really get villagery
Sorry friend if this ain't a hit but tbh sorry if it is as well
vote: Arctic
I'm just not feeling anything coming from you! You're being way too waffly and UTR-y
tbh ladd is probably mafia but idk if i care to prove it right now
syn is a fine shrug wagon if they aren't gonna play the game but the wagon comp on them doesn't really inspire confidence
dya's recent posts did nothing for me personally so i'm curious what the people who were insistent on letting them cook have to say about that
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 18:27
Nah dude
If you want to play the card where you appeal to authority and demand people falls in line and follows you, put on your big boy pants and explain it
You're not the only person good at reading logic and I am nowhere close to a lock town, not even worth discussing read. When's the last time you even played with him?
I enjoyed playing with you much more yesterday than I am today fwiw, there's no need for that
but as you wish
Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.
I'm honestly not sure what there is to say? It's not about his reads, and it never has been. It's basically an if/then sort of deal, if he's been classically wolfy then he's probably got a red role pm. If he's been anything else, then he's not. He's been out on a limb enough with a number of his takes where I'm comfortable saying that he doesn't fit into the archetype I've looked out for.
I feel like you should have been there on this by now because I got pretty close to there reasonably quickly with his overnight posting and then got the rest of the way with his stuff from this morning
From my PoV Arctic's just been doing easy takes, it's not like I have a great meta read history to back this off but I do think he's more prone to do more stuff by himself than I've seen him do so far.
Sorry friend if this ain't a hit but tbh sorry if it is as well
vote: Arctic
I'm just not feeling anything coming from you! You're being way too waffly and UTR-y
only a sith deals in absolutes
also i'm not UTR at all wtf i just have a life and taffy invited me to this game cuz they know i like light games cuz i don't have time to threadcamp all day
how am i more UTR than half the lobby
This thread looks vastly different on PC
Now I can even differ what people are saying from their quotes!
only a sith deals in absolutes
also i'm not UTR at all wtf i just have a life and taffy invited me to this game cuz they know i like light games cuz i don't have time to threadcamp all day
how am i more UTR than half the lobby
I mean, there's a difference between being UTR while in thread and ... not being in thread. In my opinion you're the former. I'm not talking about activity as much as approach/focus!
this is like not at all what happened here
not tryharding does not equate to doing literally nothing AI which was the case in this game, and also in this game part of what made it wolfy from dya was the fact this was the first read they decided to make
it wouldn't read wolfy if someone asked them to give a gth take on GH or they forced it later in the game cuz they didn't have a take on GH yet, but the reason it's problematic is cuz it just wasn't necessary at all and it's a weird place for a villa to be focused
i'm coming for you when dya flips wolf (yes this implies a level of confidence that i haven't previously expressed, but i came to the realization earlier that i have not actually misread dya as far as i can remember and this just flat out feels like their wolfgame and i feel like you should know this too)
your level on confidence is wrong
I've made this read on GH in a number opf games including wolf games because it's how i read him. He's readable when doing nothing AI because he does things as a wolf when he's comfortable not doing anyhthing as a villager
the fact that you guys keep saying he hasnt done anything so he's not readable is patently false. I'm getting a lot of flak for it but it's one of the ways I read GH
I'm sitting here at work, awaiting an answer from my boss (4 levels above me) to say whether or not the memo I drafted is good enough for his signature or if I have to go back to the drawing board.
AMA
and for that matter arctic doesn't know me well enough to make confident reads on me regardless of alignment imo. He's played a few turbos with me and that's basically it.
his level of confidence on a wrong read is really concerning me because he's a better player than that
I think Dya shooting fire here probably makes them town!
and for that matter arctic doesn't know me well enough to make confident reads on me regardless of alignment imo. He's played a few turbos with me and that's basically it.
his level of confidence on a wrong read is really concerning me because he's a better player than that
My experience with arctic (1 or two games) is that he's usually very confident in his reads as town.
My experience with arctic (1 or two games) is that he's usually very confident in his reads as town.
he's not usually confident in reading me to begin with so him being so sure on a wrong read is a problem
I can't follow wisdoms posts or process at all, like genuinely every post my reaction is p much water u talking about
Also vote: GH
See you fellas tomorrow
your level on confidence is wrong
I've made this read on GH in a number opf games including wolf games because it's how i read him. He's readable when doing nothing AI because he does things as a wolf when he's comfortable not doing anyhthing as a villager
the fact that you guys keep saying he hasnt done anything so he's not readable is patently false. I'm getting a lot of flak for it but it's one of the ways I read GH
so my confidence is wrong but not the read?
I dunno why you keep harping on the GH thing at this point anyway. I'm not changing my mind on it being wolfy, and if you're town it would be best for you to focus on other things or find a wolf. I've read your later posts and as I just said nothing really moved the needle for me because the other takes you gave in 401 just feel uninspired, and the closest thing you have to a wolfread is on the top wagon Ender so I can't give you the benefit of the doubt when that feels like an extremely easy push to make
so my confidence is wrong but not the read?
I dunno why you keep harping on the GH thing at this point anyway. I'm not changing my mind on it being wolfy, and if you're town it would be best for you to focus on other things or find a wolf. I've read your later posts and as I just said nothing really moved the needle for me because the other takes you gave in 401 just feel uninspired, and the closest thing you have to a wolfread is on the top wagon Ender so I can't give you the benefit of the doubt when that feels like an extremely easy push to make
both are wrong, as I've said. But your level of confidence is truly awful
I won't vote ender today because I have a history of always wolf reading him
And ffs if you guys would do anything other than misread me, I'd focus on other things. But since this seems a popular thing to comment on, damn right I'm going to respond
Also I find that my town reads d1 are more important so like fuck off with the you don't have wolf reads thing
and for that matter arctic doesn't know me well enough to make confident reads on me regardless of alignment imo. He's played a few turbos with me and that's basically it.
his level of confidence on a wrong read is really concerning me because he's a better player than that
i played a hydra game with you recently and immediately found you as mafia
this was also after i specced the first hydra game and townread you
i have not misread you in any turbo, either, as far as i can remember, so given all of this why would i not be confident? you can scumread me if i'm wrong i guess, but not for being confident when it makes perfect sense for me to do so
I think Dya shooting fire here probably makes them town!
speaking of the hydra game in question someone said this there and it was was flat out wrong so i'm gonna nope this real quick
i played a hydra game with you recently and immediately found you as mafia
this was also after i specced the first hydra game and townread you
i have not misread you in any turbo, either, as far as i can remember, so given all of this why would i not be confident? you can scumread me if i'm wrong i guess, but not for being confident when it makes perfect sense for me to do so
you have absolutely misread me before
when i flip v, please flip arctic
hydra games are also not the same as normal games. As evidenced by having 2 players in 1 slot. I also didn't try at all in that hydra game for many reasons
try again, it feels like you're making shit up to bolster yourself
when i flip v, please flip arctic
:bow:
(srsly tho are u this confident just cuz of omgus? i find that rather hard to believe but umm okay. i have a lot of other posts)
when i flip v, please flip arctic
how about we just flip him today? :yes:
you’re not getting D1’d lol
:bow:
(srsly tho are u this confident just cuz of omgus? i find that rather hard to believe but umm okay. i have a lot of other posts)
it's not just OMGUS as I've explained
You basically attached yourself to someone else's wolf read which I think is kind of wolfy anyway, then told us all how confident you are. Do some thinking for yourself because this isn't that
hydra games are also not the same as normal games. As evidenced by having 2 players in 1 slot. I also didn't try at all in that hydra game for many reasons
try again, it feels like you're making shit up to bolster yourself
i'm not making stuff up tho everything i've said is verifiably true -.-
maybe it wasn't your best game, but i do find u to be pretty obviously a wolf when u are a wolf but mostly by virtue of ur towngame being quite good and bcuz u tend to have a lot of interesting thoughts. none of which i've seen in this game. but i don't really want to waste more posts on this cuz i don't think it helps either of us. i think u should do something else if you're town
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 18:52
dya, thoughts on Gemma?
having a hard time getting a read on that slot personally
i feel like i keep being misrepped in thread and it's really fucking annoying
but it's coming mostly from arctic. Btw, I do have a "real wolf read" and it's you
dya, thoughts on Gemma?
having a hard time getting a read on that slot personally
i honestly don't know. I wish I did. I think her entrance was a little weird but idk if it's wolfy for her
i'm not making stuff up tho everything i've said is verifiably true -.-
maybe it wasn't your best game, but i do find u to be pretty obviously a wolf when u are a wolf but mostly by virtue of ur towngame being quite good and bcuz u tend to have a lot of interesting thoughts. none of which i've seen in this game. but i don't really want to waste more posts on this cuz i don't think it helps either of us. i think u should do something else if you're town
wel if you're a villager, you'll have to think about how wrong you were when this game is done ad maybe recalibrate your reads because your read on me sucks right now
Arctic feels very close to the last game(s) I was also villa with him in.
I don't think I've seen him wolf.
But Dya feels villa to me too.
Villa reads
GH
Logic
Zack
rask
really weak villas
visor
Wolf leans
arctic
ender
Villa reads
GH
Logic
Zack
rask
really weak villas
visor
Wolf leans
arctic
ender
i’m surprised you don’t have a read on me or benneh?
i’m surprised you don’t have a read on me or benneh?
benneh is still in both ranges. You i have a light gut v read on but I'm not ready to commit
I can't follow wisdoms posts or process at all, like genuinely every post my reaction is p much water u talking about
Also vote: GH
See you fellas tomorrow
You'll get me eventually don't worry <3
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 19:11
I am slowly coming at Logic villa. Not sure what this means about GH though.
Dya's prolly town. (or exactly with Arctic lol. but I hardly see them having such a pingpong chat if they are a wolf with villa!artic. so we aren't in this world prolly).
I am slowly coming at Logic villa. Not sure what this means about GH though.
Dya's prolly town. (or exactly with Arctic lol. but I hardly see them having such a pingpong chat if they are a wolf with villa!artic. so we aren't in this world prolly).
fwiw, I think GH is almost always hnoest about logic's alignment as any alignment himself. I've seen him as a wolf drop the shield on logic before instead of taking the easy miselim
Raskolnikov
02-13-2024, 19:17
Unofficial votecount (this doesn't count toward postcount Totally not Taffy :stare:)
Syn (4) : Raskolnikov, Ender, Murska, Ladd
GH (2) : Gemma, Zack
Ender (2) : Benneh, Syn
Dyachei (1) : Arctic
Logic (1) : Hally
Vanta (1) : Visor
Arctic(1): Hally
Abstain (1) : GH
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 19:17
fwiw, I think GH is almost always hnoest about logic's alignment as any alignment himself. I've seen him as a wolf drop the shield on logic before instead of taking the easy miselim
not necessarily, I've gotten Logic eliminated as town before when I was a badguy, and have defended him a couple of times when we were wolfbros
this is the last post I will be making about Logic in any capacity this dayphase
tbh ladd is probably mafia but idk if i care to prove it right now
syn is a fine shrug wagon if they aren't gonna play the game but the wagon comp on them doesn't really inspire confidence
Me and rask are villagers
If you are a villager adjust accordingly
GeneralHankerchief
02-13-2024, 19:22
Wisdom's felt, idk the right words, let's go with "cheerfully irreverent" the past couple of hours
gun to head I associate that more with her town game but it's a very weak/fallible read on my part
Id kill syn over artic easily. Dont think artic deserves to be d1ed
Dont think it makes sense to lunch logic before gh eother so doubt ill vote there either today
Gh seems fine but nothing unfakeable obv
dya gth v based pretty much solely on how they interacted with arctic, might be sucker but :shrug:
wisdom/gemma are kinda in the same place in my head where i don’t really understand their posts but they vibe pretty carefree and like they don’t really care about fitting into what the thread is doing. wisdom probably more so than gemma
no idea on ender tbh, he isn’t explaining anything so i can’t tell if he’s just riding the wave of the thread and seeing what sticks or there is some deeper hidden thought process going on there
You guys makes me feel like I've forgotten how to talk to people ^^'
i think it's kind o disingenuous to say soandso won't be d1ed here because it's a strong player list across the board. Arctic has made me actively wolf read him while syn is doing things that syn does as both alignments
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